Anon gets brainwashed of that thing
Posted by Brasil1126@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 254 comments
Posted by Brasil1126@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 254 comments
New_Alps_5655@reddit
Point 3 should be: people were marched into equality at bayonet point during the civil rights era.
StatsDontLie88@reddit
actually, people are being judged by the content of their character all along, there's no racism or bigotry, just pattern recognition.
A__Whisper@reddit
Careful, you'll scare the jobless keyboard warriors
filesenjoyer@reddit
So... redditors?
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
This shit is shouting someone a "you league player!"... At the lol matchmaking lobby
OpenBluejay6780@reddit
to be fair there is a difference between someone who lurks reddit and a redditor.
LoLFlore@reddit
There really isn't. Most people who use reddit lurk
CalmOptimal@reddit
Yes, but they're fine.
It's only those who comment that are tossers.
Matt2580@reddit
hhhhmmmmmmmmmm
BigToober69@reddit
Hello fellow tosser
Venimu@reddit
Sup mu tossa
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
LoLFlore@reddit
Fascinating how little your brain has in it.
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Pathetic but predictable, being a r*dditor for so long truly does rot your brain.
renaldomoon@reddit
He clapped you and your come back was weak but keep pretending
HistoricalIce5@reddit
cope
Evening_Constant6644@reddit
Keep coping reddš¤¢tor
VovaViliReddit@reddit
There is a difference between very selectively using the most contrarian and niche subreddits out there and outright lurking this weird place.
400asa@reddit
Is there a measurement unit of that ?
something like (dick/butthole) x hour
Heat_Legends@reddit
Tbh, I think the ones that OP is referring to are pretty easy to spot.Ā
EpicIshmael@reddit
To be fair also 4chaners
Sensitive-Fun-9124@reddit
Aka Reddit Mods lolol
redditmodsCOPE3000@reddit
You gotta be a top tier fucking loser to be a reddit mod
TreeGuy521@reddit
If the reason you have arachniphobia is because you got bit by one as a child and almost died, that doesn't mean you having an autistic meltdown due to seeing a spider is just pattern recognition you still have arachnophobia
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
If the reason I have arachnophobia is because spiders rape and kill disproportionally more people than any other insect, it's actually quite logical and reasonable to avoid them and isn't an "irrational fear."
TreeGuy521@reddit
Discussing it online is the boundary where you're letting it be irrational, normal people don't rant about spiders causing the downfall of the American ecosystem and they just stay away from spiders if they don't like them, you can just do that it's allowed.
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
So you support letting private businesses refuse entry to spiders? How about an HOA keeping spiders from buying homes in the neighborhood? Private schools refusing to admit spiders?
TreeGuy521@reddit
Oooh you're so close those are things that effect other people, you should do something else like move to a place with less people with a skin color you don't like, maybe try northern Europe or israel
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
smartest redditor lmfao
Also stop projecting your racist shit. We're talking about spiders here
TreeGuy521@reddit
Can you name a law that forces a black man to be near you off the top of your head that is impossible to avoid
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
First off, your racism shows your intelligence. I am talking about spiders. Secondly, theĀ Civil Rights Act
By definition, I cannot refuse service to spiders. This means if a spider comes into my business, I am legally forced to associate and serve them.
TreeGuy521@reddit
You aren't forced to own a business, that's a choice you make. if you just happen to have a hobby where you make stuff, there is no way to stop you from only giving things to certain people.
If you wanted to go out of your way to give your entire neighborhood cookies for Christmas and excluded any people you don't like because of they way they were born then like, do that I guess.
zekeybomb@reddit
what does that have to do with spiders?
TreeGuy521@reddit
Who are you
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Doesn't that affect other people? If everyone moves away from the spiders, who will pay taxes to fund their spiderwebs and flies to eat?
TreeGuy521@reddit
There are no laws against moving away from a place u don't like and people would much rather someone who can't handle it leave instead of sit there and keep building resentment till they do a hate crime or make a reddit account
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
So is the point where it's no longer okay "when it affects other people" or "when you break the law?"
If you think it's fine to just move away, why can't I just move my children away from the spider-children into a human-only school so we don't have to interact with spiders? That would be illegal, right?
TreeGuy521@reddit
Go move to a country with less spiders if u hate them so much. Nobody Is stopping you from doing that it's a free country.
Completely ignoring the mortality of being a racist for a moment it would still legally unethical for a business to segregate because those businesses are using government services and getting state inspections and stuff that Is paid for by the people they are segregating.
If you aren't running a business then you are allowed to bake pastries and then individually only give them to white people, that's a thing you can just do. But if you are selling pastries then u need a business license and then that gets you involved with public services and you can no longer segregate
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
But there's business that exclude groups already. What about women's only gyms? Men are paying into the state that's involved with that business, but they can't use them. Why doesn't the same idea apply across different categories?
TreeGuy521@reddit
I think laws for those gyms vary by state a ton I can't give an answer rlly unless u want a specific state or something. There still is a public/private differentiation for them most of the time tho
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Ok, why can't I make a private bowling alley that doesn't allow spiders? It's freedom of association and it's my bowling alley. The spiders can use the same government services to make their own bowling alley. If it's a much worse bowling alley filled with fights and low scores, that's on them.
TreeGuy521@reddit
If you have a bowling alley in your house nobody is forcing people you don't like into your house so you have full control over who enters and uses the bowling alley. Don't sell tickets though or it becomes a business and what if the inspector is a spiderfolk
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Why can't I decide who gets serviced at my business or attends my school?
TreeGuy521@reddit
Because those are public and your house isnt
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Why can't I decide my public business doesn't allow spiders? If you're gonna say "uhh the law." Why is that law good?
TreeGuy521@reddit
You can also have a swear jar in your house and require everyone who says a swear to put 25 cents in the jar or they get kicked out under threat of trespassing.
You could also require in your house that people must suck you off before they are allowed to eat, and nobody would rlly be able to sue aside from general harassment because they can just not eat your food.
Do you think you should be allowed to do that in a restaurant you own too.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
the swear jar, yes. the blowjob thing, no.
TreeGuy521@reddit
Alright, so the reason the blow job thing was a no is because public areas are subject to public scrutiny, so you can't really just go "Oh it's just my personal preference anymore that guests subject themselves to me" anymore because that's now just a whole ass freak building out in the open and if a health inspector comes and has to sample your food you can't just force them to also suck you off.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Ok but that's a ridiculous example that has nothing to do with anything
TreeGuy521@reddit
To most people the swear jar idea Is still okay and making a building segregated would be ridiculous.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
To most people, avoiding spiders is basic common sense.
TreeGuy521@reddit
Interesting gambit to hinge your segregation argument on "whoever has the majority opinion is correct"
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
No, it's more on "people should be able to associate with who they want and not associate with who they don't want and that extends to having businesses and clubs for themselves only"
TreeGuy521@reddit
Organize the event yourself then, neonazi's will rent out meeting locations on a regular basis and they are able to fully legally have their little meetings or whatever. Shouldn't you want to be like them and be a responsible citizen
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Huh?
TreeGuy521@reddit
Bro get out of your house there is a CO2 leak there is a CO2 leak inside your house you need to leave you're going crazy
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
nah, I'd win
Brasil1126@reddit (OP)
even if all of the murders in USA 2023 were committed by black people, that would still mean that 99.9555% of black people are innocent, and thatās of course assuming that none of these murders were committed by the same person (example: one person who kills 2 persons)
PleaseDoCombo@reddit
And do you have a source to back that up or is it just a bunch of studies that fit your narrative? I don't see how you think human beings can be so easily categorised by simply their race or where they're from. Pattern recognition does not apply to how you should treat human beings, you're free to be cautious around certain types of people or being aware of patterns but completely believing these patterns inherently have these traits just makes you a racist or xenophobe.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
> Do you have a source
> Just studies that fit your narrative?
So, if I give you a source, you'll just ignore it because it proves what I say and it's just part of my narrative.
I have eyes and a brain so I can tell that certain groups do certain actions more often than other groups. "Being cautious around certain types of people or being aware of patterns" is applying these ideas to how you should treat human beings. So is it okay or not? No one's saying every single spider is dangerous, but there's more dangerous spiders than ladybugs.
The reason I can categorize is because there's different groups of people that act differently. It's not that complicated. "oh but there's a spectrum between red and blue so therefore red and blue doesnt exist" "there's more differences between insects than there are between insects and fish so there's actually no difference between insects and fish" Save the foolishness for Threads.
PleaseDoCombo@reddit
It's very convenient you're not part of the spiders hmm. Of course your group doesn't tend to certain actions more than others.
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
If I was a spider of course I would say that spiders are not a problem. You have to understand that each group looks out for their own interests.
PleaseDoCombo@reddit
Yea that's the hypocrisy I'm pointing out, it's simply very convenient that a person can point out how bad other groups are but the traits and patterns of their group apparently don't define them or make them worth looking at as a trouble to society. Of course they don't have anything that needs to be looked at. š¤·
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
What does this mean? It depends on the action. Every group does certain actions more than others, but sometimes the action is very damaging and evil.
PleaseDoCombo@reddit
Do you feel the group you are in does actions that are very damaging or evil ?
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Not as much as other ones. But I'm sure there are bad individuals in my group. Just not as many or as productive as in certain other groups.
Icefox119@reddit
are the other groups in the room with us right now?
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
For your safety, I hope not.
D1RTYBACON@reddit
For instance, whites just can stop looking at naked children
Dark_Pestilence@reddit
Haha you won't bait me into a ban, get bent glowie
TreeGuy521@reddit
You know in the process of being in this thread I haven't even called racism bad yet bc I've just been focusing on private/public law.
Yeah-Im-a-degenerate@reddit
Listen chud, the real reason people have arachnophobia is because they want to fuck spiders
TreeGuy521@reddit
Wait when is silk song coming out again
Limgrave@reddit
Stats don't lie unless the stats disagree with me, then they're fake and also lies
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Stats is the easiest thing to manipulate btw.
Public never bats an eye your selection biases, faulty data methods or simply the fact you couldn't actually prove a statistically significant difference in your own paper.
CremousDelight@reddit
It's not the layman that should be checking that, but instead their own peers.
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Peers can review, but nobody can stop a people from believing it. They would just say peer reviews were lying.
People still believe alpha beta shit despite its proven otherwise. And somehow thinking the theory also explains humans too, not just wolfs.
TreeGuy521@reddit
You people can't even follow a metaphor why would I trust u to know what the qualities of a legitimate study. People be looking at surveys on the inhabitants of a mental hospital and extrapolating that data to the general populace, when the sample size is exclusively convicted criminals or whatever
VKravenous@reddit
I was never bit, but still have arachnophobia.
TreeGuy521@reddit
It's OK lil chuddy I won't let big spider hurt you
sneak_man@reddit
You see the trees but not the forest. Let's say that white people, by force and by false promise, led a bunch of African people to a far-off place to then be treated as literal farm animals for hundreds of years. And not paying them is so lucrative that they are able to found an entire country. So this relationship between them is so successful to one side that the one side is embeds it not only in law but also in culture. And then let's say that not even like 200 years ago they make it illegal.
And somehow you are shocked that there are still repercussions. There are plenty of shitty people of all shapes and colors. This false idea that there are wildly more shitty black people is statistically wrong. Maybe there are a bit more shitty black people, proportionally, but also maybe it could have to do with the several hundred years of historical context people like you love to ignore. Critical thinking is hard.
StatsDontLie88@reddit
huh duh muh critical thinking n shit, how about you crit this for me: who sold the black slaves to the white people in the first place, huh?
sneak_man@reddit
Hey little buddy I hate to break it to you but African people selling some of their own people to slavery doesn't automatically put all of the blame onto them. The blame still lies primarily with white people because of how they were treated during slavery and how they were treated after slavery was ended. Got it little guy? Does it make sense to you now? Even if African people weren't selling some of their people as slaves, do you genuinely believe that this would've stopped white people from taking them by force or by false promise? The second you let go of always having to pull out some contrarian "gotcha" is the second you'll be free. Promise you that little guy.
"Le muh critical thinking xD" but refuses to think critically, to challenge one's own views, to maturely address an opposing view, etc
aj_thenoob2@reddit
Especially considering Africa has orders of magnitude more slavery than other continents to this date, you can see where the blame came from and where it still continues.
sneak_man@reddit
Yeah... Almost like an area with increased wealth and abundance has broadly increased conscientiousness and empathy. Wonder how we got the ball rolling majorly on all that wealth and abundance? Could it have been slaves?
Tell me buddy, how does Africa still having a slave problem excuse or even downplay the damage done by white people on the ancestors of black Americans? Don't try and downplay the damage Europeans did to Africa. I mean, it's right there in front of you, you could just look it up. So obviously they are going to have issues. You really don't understand how creating a lucrative slave market throughout a continent with little consolidated power (due to the terrain, fauna, etc) would then maintain future developing nations that turn a blind eye to this industry today?
There are people alive today right now who had grandparents that were seen as actual farm animals. Not even 160 years. You think the repercussions of that are completely gone when the law changes? Get real please.
If you don't understand how the demand of Europeans drove the slave market, and how the held views of European colonialists as inherently superior to these other civilizations drove the slave market, and how relatively recently this is all having to be undone, then don't act like you understand why things are today.
aj_thenoob2@reddit
When did I say this? What I AM saying, though, is that when moral windows move, certain groups of people are the first to adopt them, and others will never adopt them despite decolonization and billions of aid dollars to try to change their thinking processes. Why that is, is important.
sneak_man@reddit
...... Because the slave trade isn't as lucrative as it once was and wealth has been consolidated greatly into western powers. That is why these countries are not doing as well. Are you like even fucking following along at all? YOU are having difficulty understanding how this is an intricate, interconnected, turbulent set of systems. These governments and laws and cultures of these people were all formed after the Atlantic slave trade and European colonialists taking advantage of them. Therefore they are majorly affected by both of these things. Because they were a central part of it How the fuck are you even typing these things and thinking "Yeah, that one definitely got em good"
You said "slavery was ended long ago". Heavily implying that the repercussions of it are also long gone. It wasn't all that long ago, buster.
Yes holy fuck man READ what I am saying. I already told you this. The people with more wealth are more conscientious. They have the time and energy to spend thinking on things like morality and ethics. They adopt them into schools of thought and culture and what have you. This proves nothing at all. It's like being glad that war greatly increases medical advancement. It's at an enormous, long-term cost. A cost that does not outweigh the product. And a cost that is not a character testament to the genetics of any haplogroup, because there is simply no such thing when you consider how different the individuals within such groups are
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Bro is melting down lol.
Itās 2025, itās not hard to figure out how to, you know. Grow food or not hurt other people.
And I donāt think Africa was this untouched paradise before the white man showed up. Pretty sure it was the opposite in fact.
Yes western powers do hold some of the responsiblity for the disarray of modern Africa, but if you want us to help make it better then African goverments canāt funnel all the money we give them into curropt politicians pockets and cry that theyāre like this because of shit that happned in the past. If you want us to help make it better then they need to work with us and not against us when we send them aid.
And I find it really funny Brazil or Portugal is never included in this discussions even though they had their fair share of slavery. Itās a little werid only the white countries seem to be responsible for past tragedies
sneak_man@reddit
introduces riches unheard of and abducts ten million people from your continent "Hey bro stop. Just grow food now we figured out what we're doing is bad. We swear just stop please."
Mhm mhm. Why don't you tell them that huh. I'm sure people will listen. Did you forget about America's civil fucking war? That's how hard it is to change people when you have deeply embedded cultural superiority.
Ohh okay sure thing man. Let's just completely disrupt these developing civilizations by absucting ten million of them. I'm positive that this will not harm them much, even though they are already struggling. Like what the fuck are you talking about man.
Yeah buddy, exactly. African governments have a lot of work to do AND we owe them the help of undoing damage we've caused. Both can be true. And nobody is saying otherwise. We are talking about historical circumstances though. The African politicians around today didn't just come from another planet they were born in a nation that western power heavily influenced. Is that fact not clear to you?
What the fuck are you talking about man. COME ON. Brazil and Portugal were broadly colonized by WHO? European colonialists.
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Ok? When was the last time we abducted people? Again itās not hard to figure out how to grow food in the age of the internet.
There you go missing the point again man, Iām not saying western powers didnāt have a hand in hurting them. But itās pretty bullshit to sit there and pretend that the only reason africa is the way that it is currently is because of imperialism. Sit there and tell me they would be thriving if we had left africa alone. Go ahead.
How are we supposed to help them if they take everything we give them. āhurr durr slaveryā Ok so the politicians that run these countries donāt have to have any responsibility becauseā¦slavery? You are your actions, you cannot be a bad person and then blame it on past transgressions. Part of building a better world is leaving bad blood behind.
Do you wanna build a better world? Or make improving your country impossible to improve short of forcing them to?
Fair enough about the Brazil part.
Also, a question. Why are we solely responsible for fixing africa? Black people are not the only people who have been treated poorly. Hitler murdered 6 million jews, Japan killed millions of South Koreans, and yet within 50 years they built themselves back up again.
How many civilizations have been oppressed and rised up again? Black people are not the only ones to have to go through that horror. And yet you donāt see South Koreans demanding that the Japanese pay them for the stuff they did during ww2.
History is full of murder, conquest and death. I am not on the handle for something my ancestor did.
If you want to fix your country, start putting in the legwork and maybe Iāll feel inclined to help you out. Until then, pound sand. These countries would have done the same thing if they had the same technology.
sneak_man@reddit
Like 160 years ago... How. How do you actually need this point ran across again. It's not as simple as just grow food bro. If it was, things would be a lot easier and the fact that you think it is that simple, and demand a discussion on something so intricate and nuanced is utterly crazy. Sheer dunning Kruger.
I did distinctly say that it can be both at play. We can get better politicians AND European countries can help undo things. Both need to be done. BUT. And it's a big fucking but. We also need to have empathy for those that have been put into poor circumstances. I am trying to explain to you why they have shitty politicians now. Understanding the why helps them whether you can accept it or not.
How much clearer can I possibly be? What I am trying to do, is tell you to stop having such a shitty and hateful perspective on these countries and people and acknowledge why they are having difficulty. This understanding and empathy you gain from acknowledging and understanding their history literally helps them. A collective sentiment and consensus that people have becomes more powerful the more people that have it. Do you think they'll get better politicians if we all collectively just think they're inherently shitty and therefore don't deserve our help? It's far less likely that they will get better, quickly.
Again you are just like assuming what I'm saying even though I've been clear. Show me where I said that we are the only ones responsible. I have every time said Western countries simply need to help undo damage they caused. Not fix every single problem they ever have.
Consolidated effort between all these nations and people undid a lot of this damage but didn't completely erase it and never can. Almost like it's easier to help yourself (as in Europeans helping Europeans) than it is to bridge an enormous gap between power and culture and not have a single thing go wrong. These African nations are very delicate compared to European ones politically. Same goes for the middle east. Japan absolutely still feels the repercussions of WW2 and the atom bomb. They are not some sort of utopia and neither is Europe after WW2.
Nobody is saying you, as in you the individual, is responsible for going to Africa and fixing their fucking problems... Leave the self importance behind please. I'm saying you're responsible for having a shitty attitude towards people who come from a historically fucked place.
You have no clue what people in Africa are doing to help build their nations, why do you think you do? Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. It's pointless to speculate because we both know the right thing to do is to at least have a positive and non-judgemental view of these other people
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
I know it's not as simple as put seed in ground, now get food. But like, it's REALLY not that hard, we aren't taking their crops away from them. If they put in a solid effort they could feed a decent percent of their population, but instead just blame everything on the west.
It's hard to have empathy when historically giving money to Africa has been basically throwing money into a hole. What other countries outside of Africa get the same level of empathy and money as Africa? We can only be so nice if all our donations go to fuel some warlords private car collection and the local government does nothing.
Ok but like having this la-dee-dah attitude towards the issue isn't helping either. Part of solving the problem is pointing out ALL aspects of the problem, but if I dare point it out I get call racist and a bigot. Also yes, you have to point out politicians are shitty to get people to understand they're shitty.
The "damaged they caused" how would you possibly go about even measuring that? How would we help them if they wouldn't let us help them? "Can we have money for food?" Sure here's 10 billion dollars! *10 million actually gets spent on food, and most gets stolen by warlords* we can't "fix the damage we caused" because the governments are so corrupt that we would basically have to invade to make sure the people actually got the food. But please, think of the poor warlords who's great grandparent had to experience the tail end of imperialism. I'm not saying we shouldn't help at all, I am just stating reality.
No, it can never erase it completely and they will, along with every other bleeding heart left winger, will blame it for their shortcomings forever. When something shitty happens to you the only thing you can do is try to make it better for yourself and not blame other factors forever even if those factors had a part to play in causing you distress. For the final time we *cannot* help them if every effort is met with firefights from local armies.
No but my tax dollars do don't they? Maybe I don't want billions of dollars going to a money pit. When Africa shows they are ready to change and not show hatred or spite toward people who had nothing to do with their past injustices, then they can have help. That is not shitty or mean that is a very realistic demand.
Do you have any idea? Can you show me examples of them significantly improving themselves? Or show me that Western aid will be of use and not just exploited?
"The right thing to do" pretty loaded sentence there bud. It's not judgemental to call the sky blue. Believe it or not I do not hate black people or africa but I can see the issues that they have and call them out. One major issue is that they do not take responsibility from their mistakes as often they will blame it the west, and while PART of it may be true. Acting like the past tragedies are the only thing holding them back is a very stupid and naive of viewing history and the world.
Just because they are victims does not mean they are free from judgement.
sneak_man@reddit
No. Please try harder to understand what I'm saying. It's not as simple as just telling them to do different things. It's a repercussion of a booming slave trade. There's still gonna be some slaves, supply can meet demand.
Brother you don't know what the fuck you're talking about at all. You know absolutely nothing about restoration efforts in Africa at all. Throwing money into a hole is absolutely insane. The continent is enormous, there have been more successful restoration efforts than haven't. I just think you don't understand the sheer damage that was done to these nations because you continue to downplay it. And this is all because you've been listening to others that downplay it and have 0 first hand experience or have looked into any of this at all.
Holy fuck are you actually serious buddy. La de dah is what you think I'm saying? I'm telling you to do what humans do best and fix your shitty as fuck attitude on this and you tell me I'm singing imagine by John legend. Stop dodging this, it's exhausting for you and it's exhausting for me.
YOU DONT NEED TO MEASURE ANY FUCKING DAMAGE. Buddy. You're soooooo far off the rails. You get redirected from the tiniest semblance of an issue. It's not about measuring fucking damage it's simply about giving help to humans that need it. It's about changing shitty antisocial, inequitable attitudes. The way you think is like traveling through a minefield. It's not just me that you've trapped but also yourself.
You are absolutely hopeless though if I have to keep spoon feeding you such easy to understand, such natural and intuitive concepts of basic human empathy that is founded on such a simple thing as the understanding how these groups came to be and why they may have issues stemming from their historical background. It is the right thing to do, whether you can get on board with it or not, and whether you think it's loaded or it isn't.
I don't have to keep fighting this, because ultimately this is a fight you need to fight for yourself. You need to read more literature. Or you just need to read my comments again until you understand it. I mean, my points have repeatedly answered you and probably will again since it's just the same thing over and over. "Well, why do I have to do x what about y, and I don't feel like doing z". This is hopeless for me, I will clearly never convince you, no matter how many times I have to repeat myself. Is it really that much work to empathize? It really isn't buddy. You're stuck up
StatsDontLie88@reddit
you okay bro? you have an epic meltdown going on here
grow your own food bro, that's the freeman's way
sneak_man@reddit
Alright buddy, thanks. Thanks for genuinely considering and addressing the ideas I've put out for you. Appreciate it big guy
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Bro thinks the world is like Tumblr, if we just treat everyone nicely then everything will work out and any acknowledgement of reality can just be brushed off as ānot being nice enoughā
Go back to the politics subreddit
sneak_man@reddit
The world doesn't need to be cuddles and roses for you to have a positive, non-judgemental view of people that are of different cultures. Like I said, you are getting hung up on such trivial things. You don't know what reality is, because you've never been to these other countries. You've only been told how it is by other dudes which is kinda gay to be honest. Go back to uhh. Well looks like you're in the right place already. Take care buddy
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Yah, beat it.
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Bro you're just repeating yourself. I don't have a shitty attitude I have a realistic one ,
sneak_man@reddit
No, by realistic, you mean negative. Realistically positive to neutral are the type of views that are helpful. Take care
SnowyBrowser24@reddit
Lol ok bud
aj_thenoob2@reddit
The British leaders in the 1830s did, the African and Arabic leaders today do not but are the same amount if not more proportionately wealthy compared to their citizens.
sneak_man@reddit
The British leaders of the 1830s had significantly more consolidated wealth and power compared to other nations than African and Middle Eastern nations do today. You're reaching big time trying to make it a comparison between the leaders and the citizens. We're talking about overall, consolidated power.
Go read a fucking book buster. You've taped your mouth to the asshole of the online conservative human centipede and you think it's the Sunday pudding special. Well it's not. You're consuming shit. Consume something real
aj_thenoob2@reddit
Your point is the wealthier the leader is the more free the country? I do not think that is true at all, dictatorships and oligarchies are the main restrictors of freedom nowadays.
sneak_man@reddit
Please. For the sake of both of us, and really for the sake of humankind, learn how to conceptualize things beyond the surface level. I promise you it will help you in the long term.
No. I'm saying that this specific group of people had the specific socioeconomic circumstances to be able to start the abolition of slavery and this was entirely due to the vast amounts of wealth and power they had to spare which cultivated these thoughts and opinions
Africa is huge and unification is extremely difficult. Without these, it is tough to enact sweeping legislations and abolish these things. But they still have. The middle east is plagued by religious extremism and so it is also difficult for very similar reasons. But there are other factors.
Stop taking my words and making sweeping generalizations with them. It's obviously not what I'm saying
aj_thenoob2@reddit
So what's even your point? If I cannot make any comparisons, or discuss how it was mainly white people that were the first to die for and end slavery while ME and African countries (these ME countries are also wealthy by land and by product) it seems there's nothing relevant today that can convince you.
Yt people bad I guess. Please ignore all backwards dictatorships 200 years later many of which have not been affected by colonialism for a century.
Magicruiser@reddit
Iām sure corpos and their mass production sweatshops have absolutely 0 to do with it, no wrongdoing there.
Limgrave@reddit
How about this: how would you have felt if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
CremousDelight@reddit
Counterpoint: I always skip breakfast.
Your move
senbonkagetora@reddit
But how would you feel if you didnt normally skip breakfast and didnt eat one yesterday?
Just answer the question dude. Its not that hard come on,
Mutes as you answer dude is a total psychopath /s
JFK_WAS_AFK11@reddit
Than explain how asians, who had to work until they dropped dead even decades after slavery ended for blacks, who up until the 90s literally smuggled themselves in on container ships, are now more educated and wealthier than white people?
sneak_man@reddit
We're talking about 10-20,000 Chinese people that were, for the vast majority, not slaves but highly underpaid and extremely overworked laborers. They were instrumental in American railroad work, but they were not the powerhouse that the Atlantic slave trade was, which was over ten million African slaves.
Holy fuck man read what I wrote. When slavery ended, white people didn't just automatically stop being racist and oppressive. Little to no reparations and Jim Crow laws. The African people that came over as slaves and their descendants had it much worse, but obviously Chinese immigrants also didn't have a cake walk. China is also much, much different than Africa. AND different from America.
It's almost like most Chinese people and their descendants came over after America had built itself off the back of slaves. And it's almost like the people that are able to come to America are already somewhat successful in their own country. (Not just snuggling themselves onto ships, bud) Aaand it's almost like the ones that do come over are coming from a culture that values education. And it's almost like increased education leads to success. Use your head and stop ignoring that all these factors are at play.
JFK_WAS_AFK11@reddit
It wasn't 10 million African slaves. Just around 300.000 that went to America. The rest went to south and middle America without you guys complaining about it, but we could spend days talking about you guys hypocrisy....
So anyway. You just explained that it's because wealth, so explain yourself there. Why did it had no affect on asians. Also how come that there are far more poor white people in the US and we see such massive problems coming from them?
sneak_man@reddit
Over ten million were taken from Africa and taken to central America and then millions made it up to north America. 300k is how many were taken directly to America. There's no downplaying it.
There is no hypocrisy. I can keep going. But the only reason I am still going is because you refuse to actually take my words into real consideration. You've built up a wall. A thin one that stands on hopes and dreams, but a wall nonetheless.
Holy shit this is what I'm talking about. It's not just about wealth but about the mentalities of European colonialists at the time. There's so many factors that I've spoon fed for you, but you chalk it up to resources. As much as they are indeed very important, they're just a part of the bigger picture.
I already fucking explained how 10-20,000 underpaid Chinese railroad laborers is different than 10,000,000 African slaves. I already fucking explained why relatively recent Chinese immigration has created a generally different outcome for Chinese Americans than slavery has for black Americans. And so have plenty of accredited historians. But your problem is you won't fucking listen. You have the library of Alexandria at your fingertips and you refuse to listen.
verwarde_jongere@reddit
dilate
sneak_man@reddit
Crazy how when you attack "the superior race" they can never actually hold their own in an intellectual debate here
Space_Obama@reddit
If asphalt steals my tv three times that's enough data for me to conclude that it will happen again.
Robocop71@reddit
See that a certain group is more likely to shoot up a school: nonstop talk about that specific group is "troubled, disturbed, violent".
See another group stealing shit and having gang warfare: you get personally threatened if you even hint that maybe that group is slightly predisposed to stealing shit and shooting up gang members
Ruskihaxor@reddit
Wait till you look up real school shooting and mass shooting data... It's not who gets the air time
Cajun@reddit
Pattern recognition without control for bias is laughably stupid.
HistoricalIce5@reddit
JESUS CHRIST
ButlerWimpy@reddit
Do you expect people to just stop using the website after a set acceptable number of years?
KyrieDraco@reddit
18 years is a huge fucking time considering you get permad for things that are absolute Bullshit (no, "muh slurs" isn't why people get perma'd most of the time)
RawketPropelled40@reddit
I expect people to have gotten banned at least once when reddit hired a pedo as an admin and banned anyone for pointing it out
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
Chuckaorange@reddit
Do mine! Do mine!
RawketPropelled40@reddit
Man all of you licāked the boāots when they were banning people for pointing out the new adāmin was a pāedo, kāeāk
RawketPropelled40@reddit
Man all of you licked the boots when they were banning people for pointing out the new admin was a pedo, kek
RawketPropelled40@reddit
Man all of you licked the boots when they were banning people for pointing out the new admin was a pedophile, kek
ButlerWimpy@reddit
So the answer is yes? What's the agreed upon number for when to leave?
HistoricalIce5@reddit
cope
Cajun@reddit
So you looked at my profile to find shit and this is the worst you could find? There's 18 years of material in there.
bigcoffeeguy50@reddit
Iām just a statistics enjoyer And I hope to eliminate 60% of the nationwide murder one day.
xelhark@reddit
And what percentage of the world population would have to go?
Firecoso@reddit
Is this ragebait or do you seriously believe what you wrote makes logical sense? Lmao
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
Firecoso@reddit
This is one of the most retarded and pathetic attempts at ragebaiting Iāve seen in a while
krazay88@reddit
Itās like, everyoneās sprinting in a race, then these white dudes come and club the black runnerās knees when no oneās looking, and then proceeds to roast the black guy for always coming in last at every race. The black guy gets angry and tries to fight back and then the white dudes get the black runner banned from racing cause the white dudes Dad is the organizer of the races. People then call out the white dudes for their corruption, and the white dudes simply reply with: āitās just pattern recognition! š¤£ā
You guys are absolute retards.
JFK_WAS_AFK11@reddit
What actual advantages are there to being white. Like there is affirmative actions and dozens of programs exclusively for black people. But what is there for white people?
krazay88@reddit
What a deeply stupid question to ask, it really serves to expose the depth of your ignorance and lack of critical thought.
Let me continue my analogy for you:
People realize how fucked up it was that those white dudes got away with messing with the black runner, so they bring the black runner back to participate in the race, but then people realize that the black runners knees never fully recovered from the damage caused by the corrupt white dudes, so they decided to give the black runner a small head start, to not only try to make up for their past suffering, but to also make it more fair. But then these other white dudes show (you) and exclaim: āHEY WHAT ABOUT MY ADVANTAGE?ā
Youāre absolutely pathetic. You donāt even realize how out of your depth you are, the whole world doesnāt even understand how you guys missed the boat on that one.
And Iām not even defending affirmative action, I think itās something with right intention but wrong way to help minorities. But I seriously donāt understand the mental gymnastics you have to make in order to turn a conversation about sympathizing people whoāve been historically mistreated, into about your own lack of advantages???
Itās like, your first mistake is thinking that because minorities have equal rights now, that itās all good and done now. Imagine if you were never allowed to talk to a girl until you were 40 and then was suddenly expected to be able to figure it out and catch up to the other 40 y.o. whoāre already married and have kids. But because youāve never learned how to talk to women, no womenās interested in you.Ā
And then, when you explain your story to people, they blame you for it.
You know what it is? Because you guys are failures and blame yourselves for it, you imagine that everyone else is ALSO fully responsible for their own failures. Instead of realizing that the people who sympathize for minorities are the same people who would sympathize for you as well, but you reject that whole notion and āwokeā culture because youāre deeply afraid of appearing weak. Youāre surrounded by even denser idiots and sadly these are the people you want to impress, so you just buy into the stupid narrative that actually serves against you.
JFK_WAS_AFK11@reddit
So you have absolutely nothing and try to play it off with your racistĀ radicalisation you got from believing impact font memes on reddit. Got it
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
verwarde_jongere@reddit
dilate
notapandah@reddit
I feel like a lot of these statistics warriors donāt really have great solutions to these problems. They have a point with demographics and stuff but what they propose as answers end up being kind of just gross or inefficien.
TrueSgtMonkey@reddit
I don't care what skin color someone is or what race they are.
You can tell exactly which person is trash, which person is normal, and which person is respectful.
Magicruiser@reddit
Weāve had like multiple issues of legislation due to the exact opposite happening, at least read if youāre gonna make a point actual grade schoolers could debunk.
krasnogvardiech@reddit
Their highest virtue is enforcing the devaluation of everything European Christians held dear. It's still the Third Reich, just backwards.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
>judge people by the content of their characters
>certain groups are still markedly worse
GreeceZeus@reddit
One reason why, statistically, immigrants appear as less prone to crime than natives in the US (in contrast to all of Europe) is that the US has a certain demographic that already has a high crime rate.
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Statistics need context to be useful.
Why are immigrants less prone to crime? Because we live in the wealthiest country in the world, the people who are capable of immigrating here are typically middle or upper class in their home countries.
Crime is heavily correlated with poverty, and a poor Nigerian dirt farmer wonāt be moving halfway across the world, just the rich ones.
Bigbootycoomer@reddit
Poverty is actually a worse explainer of crime rate than race, statistically. You can easily verify this, I'm not making shit up. Single motherhood and race are both better at explaining crime rate.
DBL483135@reddit
Actually I'm a better explainer of crime
renaldomoon@reddit
Itās really not. If you look at majority white countries the poors are doing the crimes. If you live in areas with no minorities itās the trailer parks whites doing the crimes. Itās 100% correlates to incomes.
Cupakov@reddit
No itās not, single motherhood and home ownership are much better predictors of crime rates than race.Ā
I wanted to link some charts that show this but this sub doesnāt allow linking to other subreddits, so youāll have to google ātwo factor that predict an areaās crime rate better than raceā yourself.
Konfused@reddit
Quiet now you're ruining the fun
haneybird@reddit
As it turns out, there is also a correlation between single motherhood and race.
renaldomoon@reddit
That stat is about illegal immigrants not legal ones.
Misenum@reddit
That's just a cope to not to have to accept the implications of the statistics
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Iām not afraid to look at statistics or what they mean head on, Iām just also aware of the fact the phrase āstatistics donāt lieā is patently false. Because numbers say whatever you want, depending on how you collect them and the context of the examined group.
Sensitive-Fun-9124@reddit
"A poor Nigerian dirt farmer won't be moving halfway across the world"
Of course they would, and they do, just look at immigration in western europe, especially germany. Maybe not Nigeria specifically, but you'll get the point.
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Iām talking specifically in the context of the U.S, it is decidedly more difficult to cross the Atlantic than the Mediterranean.
Correct247@reddit
Didnāt Jontron say something that disproved this and he got run off the internet
KingPhilipIII@reddit
idk but if Iām talking out my ass Iād be happy to learn so.
GreeceZeus@reddit
I partially agree. I do agree that the US gets a different type of migration than Europe gets, just due to the fact that your social system is ruthless. In Germany, it is an implicit constitutional right to not let anybody starve to death, whereas in the US you have to be willing to work or you're in tough luck.
On the other hand, this doesn't tell us why the Filipina cleaning lady is less prone to crime than - again - other comparably poor parts of the demographic. It's not like these people are the ONLY poor ones.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
Every time I see some horrible stat about US literacy or something, I always think to myself
"Okay, but what if we remove a certain demographic? I bet the stats look a lot better without them."
casey-primozic@reddit
I get that the black community needs to get its act together but the damage they do to the economy pales in comparison to what the Criminal in Chief, the Republicans, and the police forces are doing to our country.
Ruskihaxor@reddit
Take a look a total lifetime +/- tax contribution by race and get back to me on that one.
Average black individual receives about 700k more than contributed over a lifetime.
Now multiply by population and start comparing to things like annual debt or positive investments like total contribution to nasa, cancer research etc.
Pretty soon you realize we're giving up futuristic society to babysit a large portion of people who can't function on their own.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
First of all, we're talking about spiders. Secondly, no. You can't just handwave away problems because of other problems. Especially when one will last a maximum of 3.5 more years and the other never goes away. When you guys say "The culture war is meant to distract us from the class war!" What you really mean is you want the right to concede the culture war and join your side of the class war. What if I don't like DEI and I also like capitalism? Then we're in disagreement on both fronts.
Magicruiser@reddit
Doesnāt help much. New Mexico for example has some of the worst education around, and that state is absolutely disproportionately Caucasian.
bitt3n@reddit
you're stacking the deck with that example given % of students in NM speaking English as a second language
assuming you don't speak Spanish, if you tried to go to a Mexican school you'd likely do poorly as well, and in every class
Magicruiser@reddit
Around 30% of people speak a language other than English, and the majority of 2nd language speakers are proficient. There are maybe some of that stat pool are incapable of understanding ANY English at all. Though it says a lot when around 4-5% of the Native English speakers born there are considered not able to speak English well.
But then again, migrationpolicy.org counts anyone incapable of āvery wellā English to be LEP from Not at all, Kind of, Well, Very Well
bitt3n@reddit
non-native speakers impact school performance a lot. I recall from some time ago a study that suggested the poor performance of red states in education was in large part attributable to how many kids in these states are recent immigrants (eg in Texas) with shaky English.
SaintCambria@reddit
Yeah, look at their education stats by demographic and get back to me again on that one. A lot of scores are reeeaaallly in the red.
BarrelStrawberry@reddit
ToMyOtherFavoriteWW@reddit
Where Anon is slightly missing the point is exactly where the change took place. It's hard to put a specific date to it but it basically derived out of the rise of a different version of social justice that repudiates the previous, rather successful and popular version of "judge by the content of character, not by skin". I started noticing this around 2013 and increasing rapidly in the coming years, seemingly coinciding with Trump's rise to power and BLM.
Other versions of this include "its not enough to not be racist, you must be anti-racist", and "[insert minority group here] cannot be racist because they do not have structural power." It is common for those with this belief to call out white people before they know anything about them, ascribing all sorts of things on the basis of race alone.
You see it in distortions, omissions, and outright lies about data as well. When the data shows that Asian women by average make 96 percent of what white men make, the answer is to remove that data point altogether rather than to update the perspective to understand complicated sociological factors. When it is revealed that Asian men make more than white men, again the data point is removed altogether. In the new paradigm, socioeconomic class is discounted as a factor for inequities in society, and ONLY race is considered.
From my perspective, this is the #1 reason for the downfall of the democratic party, as it provided zero avenues to talk about economic issues in ways that weren't specifically sliced based on pandering to some demographic, hence Harris's plan to forgive business loans to minority college graduates who opened businesses in zip codes that were distressed, but only if the business can last 5 years + other needless hoops. This is why DNC conspired to crush Bernie both times and has not embraced Mamdani, because the powers that be in the party cannot bless any economic change that harms the rich, as promises have already been made to the donor class. They would rather lose the war as long as the cash keeps flowing.
jmccarthy50@reddit
People don't realize how long this shit's been festering in academia. Max Horkheimer at the Frankfurt School defined Critical Theory in 1937. CT and post-modernism picked up in the 1960s and all those hippies went into teaching, especially teaching soon-to-be teachers with Paolo Freire's critical pedagogy. Kimberly Crenshaw fleshed out intersectionality in 1991. There's a bunch more connections and persons to mention but that's the thousand mile high overview and why everyone is now retarded.
ToMyOtherFavoriteWW@reddit
Horkheimer and Adorno's Dialectic of Enlightenment was one of my favorite books from grad school. I don't personally think we can blame Horkheimer (or, really, any thinker) for this. I agree that some who espoused critical theory beliefs are idiots, but the issues at play are never from the ideas themselves, it's when the ideas become forced onto society without proper process, which certainly did not happen in Horkheimer's time.
Regarding Crenshaw, the right wing likes to attack her for the 'intersectionality' stuff, but the reality is that the way people are using the term in 2025 is not how it was created back then, e.g. in 1991, my intersectional experience growing up working class as a white guy from the midwest could be talked about, whereas today people would look at that like a crazy idea (as if intersectionality only applied to people of color, whereas the whole point was to look at the multiple factors that impact experience, inequity, etc). My biggest critique of these losers today is that they haven't read Horkheimer or Crenshaw to begin with, but will cosplay as if they have. The same goes for just about anyone who uses the word 'settler-colonialism' for that matter.
My convictions in the past 10 years haven't changed-- if you find people that go out of their way to avoid talking about how the rich people of this country are fleecing the rest of us and destroying the planet, and would rather talk about race, race, and only race, I immediately know they are either a sucker or are just pining for the opportunity to take the reigns of a dystopic capitalist shithole that is only getting worse every single year.
jmccarthy50@reddit
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A...
ToMyOtherFavoriteWW@reddit
Lowest effort response imaginable, color me unsurprised
jmccarthy50@reddit
It's about what a Marxist is worth. Should've been less even.
bitchcoffin@reddit
Its more then your mom is worth
ToMyOtherFavoriteWW@reddit
So you bring up two public intellectuals who are routinely lampooned on Fox News by people who never read them either, likely never read either of them yourself, and then dont actually have a response to a thoughtful examination of why society went wrong in spite of those thinkers? Why bring up Horkheimer and Crenshaw in the first place if you're incapable of discussing their ideas and/or societal impact?
Also, who said I'm a Marxist? You're simply too retarded to engage in discussion here or what?
jmccarthy50@reddit
No, I just refuse to
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
And we all know why.
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
The_Flowers_of_Evil@reddit
I swear a good part of this is just the fact that social sciences are dogshit. Their idea of an experiment is laughably bad and full of things they didn't account for.
tharpoonani@reddit
You lost me after the first paragraph.
Completely disagree with the statement āsocial justice repudiates the previousā.
The simpler answer is that the racists just stayed home stewing on their hate for decades. They were stigmatized by the 60s, but never learned to set aside their prejudices and truly live by the mantra of ājudging by the content of their characterā. The Boomer left didnāt go far enough. They stopped when things felt better for themselves and said fuck it to all the other generations after them. āYou go figure out how to fix the issues we created and only partially solvedā was their unspoken message to us all, over time.
In comes social media, Obama skillfully outmaneuvered McCain with its use. We saw firsthand how it could be the most democratizing media tool ever invented. We are now living through the phase of this experiment where the racists crept slowly back into the public discourse. Fringe zones of the internet like /b/ played a huge role in this slow creep. Remember Habbo Hotel?
Well according to these ghouls in the White House and bullshit right wing pod bros, America has AIDS in the pool and they want to add a ton of bleach. Fuck them, fuck them all, for never learning to tolerate difference. For never learning that you can stand up for what you believe in, while also respecting someone elseās right to determine whatās best for themselves as long as it doesnāt infringe upon you and your rights.
redditmodsCOPE3000@reddit
It's when that dumbass Travon Martin got killed. Zimmerman was a fuckin idiot too. Zimmerman tried to be neighborhood watch hero and Martin was a POS. Martin doubled back to "teach dat cracka a lesson shiiiiieeet" and Zimmermans dumbass killed him.
Zimmy should have went to jail for manslaughter and that should have been that but dumbass Obama comes out and goes "shiiieeet bruh dat coulda been muh kid shiiiieeettt" and started the race war. If he just shut the fuck up and didn't acknowledge it shit would have kept going in a good direciton. Everytime one of these POS BLM people die they are always criminals doing stupid shit and people act like they're getting gunned down for being a future doctor when they're getting gunned down for being massive pieces of shit.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
The "progression" of society is more like:
Pingushagger@reddit
What was some of the good things Nazi germany was up to?
verwarde_jongere@reddit
He stood up for his people.
bitchcoffin@reddit
Hitler is the biggest looser degenerate that ever existed in Germany.
Its like you are saying animal rapists are standing up for furry rights.
You might think that way if you are a bottom feeding degenerate.
Pingushagger@reddit
By ruining their reputation for the next century?
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Helped get their country out of the gutter it was in, raised their birth rates, national banks, no to low interest, first anti-smoking and anti animal cruelty laws, strong national pride, etc.
Let's cut the allied propaganda bullshit, you dont come to power and hold power in a country if you literally have nothing good going for you. Not saying they didnt do bad but still.
Pingushagger@reddit
Ew
PM_ME_DNA@reddit
By selling their gold, and plundering it back. It was not sustainable without constant war which itself isnāt sustainable.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
This is a goofy take. This isnt All Tommorows or Warhammer40K. Anyone who thinks Germany was unironically gonna try to be in a state of infinite warfare is a clown. They only went into total war later in the war specifically because they knew they'd lose otherwise and would lose everything. Once the war ended if they won the economy would just be reorganized which has happened plenty of times.
There's tons of cases in history where if you invest a bunch of resources and end up getting nothing out of the war that you end up bankrupt
__El_Presidente__@reddit
It's not as if their supreme leader wrote just that in his little Nazi Bible. Surely nazis weren't stupid people following an ideological suicide pact right?
Right?
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Do you mean Mein Kampf? I read it and it never says anything anywhere about needing to be in constant nonstop war. The end goals were decently clear
__El_Presidente__@reddit
Yeah, conquering and colonizing Eastern Europe up to the Urals and enslave and exterminate the people there. Surely that wouldn't produce an active war zone on the Urals and a mega-Vietnam al throughout European Russia.
If the glorification of war and violence wasn't obvious enough for you, later they cooked things like theWehrbauer (which, in a shocking example of deception, means Soldier-Peasant in German).
Imsosaltyrightnow@reddit
I mean itās a proven fact that German rearmament was going to at the very least cause the economy to enter an extreme recession, and that the majority of said economy only worked so long as the MEFO bill pyramid scheme held. A pyramid scheme that in its later years relied on the property seized from German Jews.
SerJoseph@reddit
The trains ran on time
Kool-aid_Crusader@reddit
That was Mussolini, and also untrue.
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
No, the other trains.
Imsosaltyrightnow@reddit
Remember, at no point on time do you āhave to hand it toā the Nazis
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
Destining to destroy itself by investing gigantic amounts to military industry from day one I guess.
When you get a bit more intellectual knowledge, you realize how shallow they're even among other racists. Their whole iconography as Kitch as a katy Perry song clip.Ā
mehthisisawasteoftim@reddit
I think he was referring to the broad characteristics of European/Western civilization and not actual Nazi ideology
the_marxman@reddit
Germany got their ideas from America. Everyone was into eugenics until Hitler made it awkward. Much like the civil war, the underlying issues never got resolved they just became expressed through different means.
Maxbonzoo@reddit
Yeah morally Nazi Germany wasnt too different from a lot of other white countries at the time, they were just more honest about it honestly
Ruskihaxor@reddit
Ya I mean look at what the other countries looked like in 1930 and wonder why they're like "we definitely don't want to end up like them, keep them away".
There are still cultures defending eating with their hands because it's cultural even though we've had germ theory for 150 years
OrganicNobody22@reddit
Huh? Clearly you don't know much if you think we didn't learn anything from the Germans or Japanese
Start with googling "operation paperclip"
Limgrave@reddit
Insane interpretation to have of the current state of the world. Remember to look both ways when you cross the street, and remove the wrapper before you eat your burgers. Dehydration and sleep deprivation reduce higher brain function, but I don't think you need to worry about that.
okglue@reddit
Working in academia/adjacent fields, it has absolutely become a clown fiesta. I do not know how my peers whole-heartedly endorse what amounts to explicit racial discrimination in admissions/hiring. Perhaps I shouldn't be surprised when our laws and courts have supported such measures, in the name of achieving equity.
t. Canada.
Robocop71@reddit
It is mainly to set a quota. If you look at an ivy league school, you will see that there are tons of certain group, but they are ultra rich and privileged, like have 5 vacation houses rich.
They don't care about actual hardship or diversity: they care about filling out a specific quota.
Doctah_Fauci@reddit
You work in Academia? Baseball, huh.
DepravedJap@reddit
I thought i might end up in JP Morgan or some cool Investment bank after doing an ESG certification after school since i am asian and become a diversity hire, guess its not a viable career path anymore
StatsDontLie88@reddit
wait, they treat you as the diversity hire? lol, lmao even, whereas they treat me (also east asian) as white, some colleagues even call me wasian, wtf
mischling2543@reddit
Honorary white *
Never-Preorder@reddit
> people arent racist anymore
Lol. All those movements did was to strengthen the racist ideologies under the guise of progressivism while degrading the word "racism". Truly racist and vile people were forgotten, forgiven and even risen to the power while regular folks got their lives ruined simply for saying N word or making a joke online.
Spartan6056@reddit
I've seen more racism online now than I did 15 years ago. Progressivism has effectively set race relations back decades.
tharpoonani@reddit
Anything and everything these āanti wokeā ghouls can possibly do to never take accountability for being racist.
Blaming progressivism for bringing āmore racismā onto the internet is big work there, Diddy. Never mind the fact we had Jim Crow less than a century ago and slavery for centuries, ending only by the deaths of 650,000 soldiers.
But sure, thereās more racism āonlineā now. š
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
So 2010s? It was a time where proggressive movements already active and has more cultural power more than post covid era?Ā
Spartan6056@reddit
Late 2000s early 2010s were the build up. 2015 and beyond is where progressivism was everywhere. I was specifically referring to online discussions around 2010 before you saw "woke" culture take hold of mainstream in the mid-2010s.
Yes, the progressive movements have lost cultural power since the post covid era, but the worse race relations of today were escalated by that era from the mid-2010s through early 2020s. Forced inclusivity, race swaps in media, and ideas like critical race theory being pushed all led to lasting bitterness.
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
The internet and the media as a whole is way more censored from casual racism, but actual race relations are worse than it was in the 90s. This is what happens when you remove pressure release valves.
MercuryAI@reddit
I'd point out that the venue of discussion has changed as well. As far as I'm concerned, the world ended June 29th 2007, with the release of the first iPhone. The 2010s was the era of increasing smartphone use, and discussion started moving there from other venues.
There are two difficulties with this. One, the mechanism that shuts down stupid ideas has been disengaged. Opinion leaders used to shape the discussion, and generally you had to have real credentials to be an opinion leader - some kind of academic or public figure. Nowadays, no matter how unbearably stupid your idea is, you will find 30,000 people online to enjoy it with you - I'm looking at you Flat Earth Society.
Two, it's harder to police bad actors.
turkishgold253@reddit
Thanks obama!
leastemployableman@reddit
Occupy Wall Street scared the powers that be and set it all in motion. The Elite use race baiting to keep people pissed off at each other. Democrats and Republicans are all the same. They're all buddies behind closed doors. With AI, it's now easier than ever to spread hateful rhetoric and rage bait. Hell, I'm willing to bet that half of the comments in this very thread are bots designed to piss people off and keep them distracted.
JojiImpersonator@reddit
It's a timeline. Racism was basically gone and so the left needed to manufacture more to stay relevant
rgtong@reddit
Racism went down but it was never even close to gone.
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
Same thing happened with the trans stuff once gay marriage got legalized.
MercuryAI@reddit
There's more truth to this than I'd like to think. When a goal has been accomplished, an organization must either find a new goal or die.
redditmodsCOPE3000@reddit
20 years ago being called a racist was a horrible thing no one wanted now it just means you won the argument.
JojiImpersonator@reddit
Specially when you get called a Nazi for no reason. The seething can be felt through the Internet
born_2_be_a_bachelor@reddit
Things were very briefly OK in the 90ās
TrueSgtMonkey@reddit
What are you talking about? The LA riots were in '92
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
Not talking about third world countries.
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
Happens all the time.
When one side ends up getting power again they tend to go way overboard on power instead of going by the original message of fairness.
Like always, the ones that notice will be called crazy or silenced like you see on places like Reddit.
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
Always stay contrarian so you will be always ahead.
VirtueSignalLost@reddit
Very real and very non ghey
Efficient_Rise_4140@reddit
Elon Musk tier commentary. Utter cringe.Ā
Britstuckinamerica@reddit
, he asked the hacker 4chan
philmarcracken@reddit
for that to happen, we'd see more acceptance of anthropology, and we don't. Everytime i post this, people get mad and say races aren't pseudoscience:
https://www.americananthro.org/ConnectWithAAA/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2583
Icy-Establishment272@reddit
Yeah 100%
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LadyKingPerson@reddit
When you lack traditional religion you fill that void with other fervor like behavior. These personalities and archetypes have been around forever and will continue to be around.
Sharky-Li@reddit
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command" George Orwell, 1984.
We're at the stage where you can get in trouble for having the wrong opinion because people are noticing and they expect you to not believe your very own eyes and certainly not say anything aloud lest you want your reputation tarnished. The "lessons" have become so ingrained in some, that they joyfully lash out those they perceive to be in violation. When stories always involve the same individuals, it's impossible not to form certain biases, which by definition aren't always accurate in every instance but share an underlying truth.
TurquoiseKnight@reddit
"People aren't racist anymore" šš¤£š
nihongonobenkyou@reddit
Yeah that's a ridiculous statement. I've worked too long and too hard for people to tell me I'm not racist.
big_whistler@reddit
When did people stop being racist?
EroGG@reddit
They never had good intentions.
dagobert-dogburglar@reddit
This is your brain on decades of fox news
oni_no_onii-chan@reddit
This is not fox news type brainrot, this is "you proggressives make me vote conservative" type brainrot.Ā
These people exist in every country, act like they're choosing the people they themselves deemed stupid because they have an upper vision, then 2 months later leave the party's side and cry to proggressive camp that their proggressiveness resulted to materialy destructive party get elected.
Elon musk is the peak of this stupidity.
Space_Obama@reddit
Even if you eliminated Fox off the face of the planet certain stereotypes would just be born again. That's not a TV network problem that's a certain kind of people problem.