>Christopher, my son, listen carefully. I have entrusted the rights to my Middle Earth works to you after my death. You know that I, as a conservative Catholic, have always been an LGBTQIA+ ally and supported the rights of gender nonconforming people to identify how they wish. As such, if there is ever a kind of computer game made that allows the player to take the role of a Hobbit in the Shire, the character creation system of that game MUST include gender as a spectrum, and there must be no male or female body types. We must defeat bigotry Christopher, as you know Sauron in the Lord of the Rings was a metaphor for Cisheteronormativity. Now this should go without saying obviously, but there should also be the option to make the hobbits of any skin tone, from pale to black, and the population of the Shire in the game should use a diverse range of these skin tones. Please remember all of this Christopher, it is my most important instruction to you.
Tolkien is rolling in his grave for sure. I’ll never forgive Amazon wokies and whatever retards that made this game. They should be ashamed, but I know they never will. They have no shame. It’s all about their ideology by all means. No respect for anything. Makes me so upset just thinking about it. LOTR is the most impactful piece of fiction, maybe ever. Definitely in the last 100 years. You don’t just get to fuck with that and malign it without thought.
It's not about their ideology or whatever you want to believe. It's about money. It's been twenty years since the last movie, which had great success. Now they simply want to have a much bigger audience.
It was never about the books, it was never about ideology. It was about money. It is a company. A multi-billion company. They don't give a flying fuck about some bullshit people want to call woke or whatever. M O N E Y.
There are more people who want to watch a diverse people in some series than there are people who want to stick to the books. Get it into your brain. The only reason why such a company cares about skin colour, gender, sexual orientation or whatever, is because they can bank on it.
Do you really think these megacorporations with their billions of dollars in analysis and market research haven't figured out that most people don't like the ultraprogressive shit and those people are just a loud minority? Even though any idiot on the internet can figure that out?
The loud majority are the ones who cap yapping on about how "woke" attacks them and their values. They're the fucking snowflakes.
If you are really that fucking dense to think that. indeed, megacorporations with their billions of dollars in analysis and market research, know less than you (despite their numbers showing for themselves), then I can't help you. But go ahead and scream into your pillow about how "woke" destroys the world.
except the majority of people don’t give a shit about identity politics in media. There’s a screeching minority who does and they can exert influence better than others, but if you look at the failure of Rings of Power or the success of new HP media, you see that most people, in fact, don’t care about identity politics.
I don't know, man. You call it a failure, but it was one of the reasons why their subscribers sky-rocketed from the moment season 1 came online. They are also coming with a season 3, which wouldn't happen if they weren't to have (unfortunately) success.
The analytics company said the first season was watched for 1.2 billion minutes over its Labor Day weekend opening, and contrasted this drop with that of HBO's House of the Dragon which it found to have 10 million viewers for its first season premiere and 7.8 million for its second.
Ahead of the season finale's release, Salke said 55 million viewers had watched the season globally and the company expected more "growth and momentum" for it over time.[150] When the third season was officially confirmed in February 2025, Amazon said the series was one of the strongest drivers for new Prime Video signups and the second season had become its most-watched returning season by number of hours watched.
Not to mention their many nominations and the critical acclaim.
But you do you and call it a failure. Commercially it obviously isn't.
It might be about money but not because people are paying for it. It was about money because Larry Fink (✡️) gives out low interest loans if you push the woke agenda.
Ah, I see the retards have found their new Soros. Because, obviously a billionaire working for a parasitic company and someone who worked with Trump, changes the world into something "woke", whatever the fuck that may be.
Tolkien and LotR will, I think, in the future reach a similar level of importance as the Iliad. Since we don't categorize myths as being works of fiction I'm with you. LotR is a genuine contender for the most impactful fiction ever written. The overall themes are timeless and will resonate with people forever. But it is also clothed in very contemporary and period specific philosophies and ideals. Like the Iliad. In five hundred years scholars studying 1900s England will most likely use LotR and Tolkien like a modern scholar studying ancient Greece does Homer and the Iliad. I say this and LotR is not even my favorite fantasy series and Tolkien is not my favorite fantasy writer. Even so it is simply impossible to deny the objective greatness and impact of it and him.
By "wokies," do you mean the current medical consensus? If you don't agree with modern medical science, go live in the woods somewhere away from civilization. Pathetic.
He said the most impactful piece of fiction. Not all fiction is anime, movies, and vidya. Some people have the basic self-discipline to sit down and read a book.
>One last thing Christopher, make sure that Shelob's human form is a totally hot and pale babe, reminiscent of the porn actress Stoya. Please Christopher... Please...
Funny but not really fair since Christopher was a great guardian of his father’s legacy. It was after CHRISTOPHER died that the descecration of LotR started in earnest.
Christopher's defense was admittedly too harsh. If he controlled it more carefully there would have probably been stronger vetting for creative licensing that's been established over time. Instead it's become let anyone take it we don't care.
"Remember sauron has to be like Walter white and the Peter Jackson lore trilogy followed the books too closely" -paraphrase of the current rights holder.
And female dwarves have beards, all dwarves have beards from birth. When travel and leave their mountains, they are dressed to look like the men. To other races, they are almost indiscernible from the male dwarves and lead some to believe there are no women.
Dís was the daughter of Thráin II. She is the only dwarf-woman named in these histories. It was said by Gimli that there are few dwarf-women, probably no more than a third of the whole people. They seldom walk abroad except at great need, They are in voice and appearance, and in garb if they must go on a journey, so like to the dwarf-men that the eyes and ears of other peoples cannot tell them apart. This has given rise to the foolish opinion among Men that there are no dwarf-women, and that the Dwarves 'grow out of stone'.
It is because of the fewness of women among them that the kind of the Dwarves increases slowly, and is in peril when they have no secure dwellings. For Dwarves take only one wife or husband each in their lives, and are jealous, as in all matters of their rights. The number of dwarf-men that marry is actually less than one-third. For not all the women take husbands: some desire none; some desire one that they cannot get, and so will have no other. As for the men, very many also do not desire marriage, being engrossed in their crafts.
That’s taking a somewhat stretch of the text imo. It’s overly literal. There are multiple passages talking about dwarven men having big beards… not one about the women
Some siblings look nearly identical in the face, does that mean that the women grow beards? This is interpreting it to include beards while being given no reason to.
If that were the case I wouldn’t call them “so like [each other] that the eyes… of other peoples cannot tell them apart”. It isn’t a stretch to, when the text literally says that they have identical appearances, read that they do, in fact, have identical appearances. If the women didn’t have beards they’d be visually distinguishable, yet the text says that is not the case.
omg, the dwarfs are an incel race, NOOOOOOOO, they are my favorite race. what does that say about me? not only are they incels they are also greedy like some other race that we know of with certain facial features that stick out.
Elves are way worse, they had a genocide just cus Galadriel didn't shell out her pubes to a some crusty grognard who made really, really shiny buttplugs
id rather be angry with my good friend and role model asmongold than have an accurate take about anything ok. how are women gonna know i want to abuse them if i don't signal to them that im an unfit partner?
You know what I do when I meet a feature in a game that I don't care about, or that isn't aimed at me? I don't use it
I've never understood why people get so wound up about shit like this. Yeah it's performative from the gaming studios, but so what? Just ignore it. The studio could not care less what you think about it. you are just leading yourself to a early heart attack over nothing.
A game can have a million different sliders in for all I care, as long as it's a good game. Why would I give a fuck
Lmao no way you think that's a relevant quote here? That's a quote about Nazis, not about some game not letting you play as a guy. Why do you even care? Are you saying representation in games does matter after all?
Nazis arent the only form of evil retard, just because the quote was used for Nazis doesnt mean you cant use it for other things.
I dont care about this game, but i do care about the butchering of LOTR and im not even that big of a fan like some people are. im here just to ridicule the last cries of the dying woke agenda. Represantation in games doesnt matter but i like some logic to my world building. Nothing more immersion breaking than seeing some random rural village that has the demographics spread of modern day LA. Its very obivous when represantation is shoehorned in and when its genuine. No issues with it when its done right.
What the wokies are doing to video games and other fiction is absolutely evil, they arent capable of creating something good, so they have to latch onto other popular media like some parasite and tries to suck out all life out of it until moving onto the next victim. Thank god that the woke movement is finaly somewhat dying out after the 20th FLOP of the century.
i care because i dont want the same to happen my favorite media.
You seem to be taking this pretty seriously. You should consider if its healthy to have so much invested in a game lil bro. Its kinda sad. Please, go find a patch of grass, touch it, and realise none of this actually matters. You need to grow up lol
Because I think there are legitimate things to care about in the world, and both sides of this argument waste so much energy arguing about stupid shit like this. Which is exactly the desired outcome of course
Reddit is hiding all your comments for me now, amazing stuff
I never said I didn't care about everything, I said I don't think that gender sliders in games are at all relevant or important, and I don't care about them. Because they aren't. The fact you care so much about something that has such a small impact on your life, if it has any impact at all, shows you are a deeply flawed person with nothing else in your life.
Are you telling me that someone with a girlfriend, or a wife, friends, a social life and something to actually live for, would care about this in the slightest?
"Slop" yeah the game is slop. So what? Just don't buy it. It's that easy. It's not slop because of gender sliders tho, those aren't relevant
I'm convinced you focus on this because you have literally nothing else going on. It's kinda sad
i wont buy it, im here just to ridicule it. Im happy that the woke agenda is finally dying. It just took 15 400 milion dollar flops.
Also i think you are overestimating how much i care about this, just because i want this slop to die off and for companies to stop ruining beloved franchises for greed, doesnt mean its the center of my universe. You do know that you can care about multiple things in life and not just the major ones? i have other issues in my life and obviously woke shit in video games isnt a priority, but i still care about the media i consume.
I dont know why this gay website is hiding my comments so cant help you there. Probably too many spicy comments
No, a full stage 3 crash out over a game is you losing you shit. Go get yourself a social life and a girlfriend, you will realise none of this matters in the slightest
Right well I can see you replied and it got removed. And all I can say to that Is, you're the one losing your shit over a piece of media lol. You are entirely detached from reality, but then I guess that's just because you have nothing irl to care about
Partly because it annoys me to see people argue over something so obviously stupid. I think the fact you waste your time I. This, and other culture war rubbish, is a real issue.
Partly because I just like disagreeing with people
So you would complain if the game had something completely out of touch with the actual story, such as male hobbits suddenly having beards and women having hairless feet, right? Right?
Carelessly changing art to conform to modern standards is disgusting. It's anti-art, anti-artist, and anti-intellectual. It's worse when it's done simply to appeal to a demographic of potential spenders (I'm not fooling myself into thinking they did this because of their irl values).
No one is going in and republishing TLOTR trilogy and adding pronouns and black people. This is a new game made in 2025 thats just part of the same greater IP.
IP. That's the key. Just make a new gay-as-the-day-is-long farming sim. I don't care. Just don't attach it to existing IP. Is everyone these days morally and creatively bankrupt?
And don't pretend like creative works don't become cultural touchstones. You mention you like a band, for ease of example, let's say the Rolling Stones. Well then, 40 years later, someone rerecords and re-releases the songs, and it's like remixed with shitty mumble-rap. Now your grankid who has no context thinks you have shit taste when you say you're a Stones fan.
let's say the Rolling Stones. Well then, 40 years later, someone rerecords and re-releases the songs, and it's like remixed with shitty mumble-rap.
this happens all the time, its called sampling. and no one confuses the remix or new track using samples with the original.
Same goes for this game vs the original trilogy. Nothing you said addresses my point except
I don't care. Just don't attach it to existing IP.
to which I say... no. People build upon and add changes to existing IPs all the time. They evolve and grow and the original works are always there for you to enjoy.
The weirdest thing is that you literally cannot get rid of those weird mascara eyelashes. Every single character has them, there are no eye options that don't have them.
Yes, it's that bad. My girlfriend was really looking forward to this game ever since I showed her Lord of the Rings, and once she saw that, she got genuinely livid.
I watched the IGN review and they were pretty harsh on it so I steered clear. I love cozy farming games and LOTR so I was so excited. How could you fumble such an easy formula.
Two things here I think are important to consider.
Lotr is ass and has always been ass. Just because our standards for fantasy were low because fantasy didn't really exist yet doesn't mean Lotr was good. Very similar to the beatles. They suck dick, and basically everyone knows it. But just because they took some black people music and changed it enough for a white crowd people call them revolutionary. They ass, it's okay.
hobbits are fuckin gay as shit man. Tell me which of the main hobbits in the lotr movies looks like he doesn't suck cock all day. Thats right, none of em. They're constantly finger blasting each others assholes and gettin sweet with each others tips.
I actually think the trilogy wasn't all the great. I enjoyed the films.but.still think it can't be filmed. I don't know why.Jackson couldn't hande.The Hobbit, though. We animated.it 40 years ago. I think the problem came the studio insisting on a 2 parter.
I think the third saints row game had a gender slider to be fair, and other than subtle figure changes, I'm pretty sure it just changed the size of genitals and breasts. All the way one way, basically bursting out your pants. All the way the other, back ache for days.
I'm fairly certain that, aside from the hairiness of their feet, hobbits are supposed to be cherubic and innocent, which is why the Scouring of the Shire hits so hard. Not having masculine features fits the ticket tbh. Only a few of them are ever described in a traditionally manly way, and those are the heroes of the hobbits.
Every smarmy dipshit here retorting with "ayhactually, hobbits don't have facial hair, and the girls have feet hair. OP doesn't know the source material." How about the source material of the post? The GENDER SLIDER is the complaint. A gender slider where even the manliest setting only results in a masc looking lady. Fucking gender slider gtfo
They should change it so hobbits can be super buff and grow big long braided beards and carry axes and wear chainmail and work in mines deep under the mountains just like Tolkein described hobbits doing.
It’s actually insane how the quality of LOTR games have dropped like a stone. From like the classic PS2 era games up to shadow of Mordor/war were peak. Then gollum and then this.
If this goes any further it will just get back to basic genders, only reversed. You'll just have to choose male if you want to play a female character and choose female if you want to play a male character.
To be clear all hobbits have feet fair. It's a racial trait last I checked. The rest is valid but honestly it's just one facet of a very mediocre game all around.
That wouldn't be lore-friendly, the game takes place in an ethnically homogenous Fallohide region of the shire. Anyway make half of them black and a quarter Asian.
Hobbits are the South-East Asians of Middle-Earth.
There's a reason why the Shire was such a popular destination for sex pests like Gandalf and that group of gay dwarves. What guy here wouldn't turn gay for hobbits, if your alternative would be stinky, bearded dwarf women?
I know the solution is always not to buy it, but it would have been nice having a lord of the rings farming sim to play with the boys. It isn't even multiplayer.
when did vidya discussions turn into circlejerks around what slider the game does or doesn't have when creating a character? anyway this game looks like it sucks anyway so why even waste air on it
bla bla bla woke cringe bla bla bla. If only gaymers would do something sometimes and vote with their wallets, maybe ((they)) would stop pushing this shit so much
kind of a cool idea for customization just bad execution and a awful coat of paint.hseriously why do people keep doing this they know everyone will hate it)
Hate-marketing can only takes you so far. Sure a minority will play it because they feel represented and another minority will play it out of spite. As for the rest of us, we're just asking "hum....where is the rest of the game? You know, beyond the slider...?".
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
>Christopher, my son, listen carefully. I have entrusted the rights to my Middle Earth works to you after my death. You know that I, as a conservative Catholic, have always been an LGBTQIA+ ally and supported the rights of gender nonconforming people to identify how they wish. As such, if there is ever a kind of computer game made that allows the player to take the role of a Hobbit in the Shire, the character creation system of that game MUST include gender as a spectrum, and there must be no male or female body types. We must defeat bigotry Christopher, as you know Sauron in the Lord of the Rings was a metaphor for Cisheteronormativity. Now this should go without saying obviously, but there should also be the option to make the hobbits of any skin tone, from pale to black, and the population of the Shire in the game should use a diverse range of these skin tones. Please remember all of this Christopher, it is my most important instruction to you.
DecoyOctorok24@reddit
Caspere knew this.
tangy_nachos@reddit
Tolkien is rolling in his grave for sure. I’ll never forgive Amazon wokies and whatever retards that made this game. They should be ashamed, but I know they never will. They have no shame. It’s all about their ideology by all means. No respect for anything. Makes me so upset just thinking about it. LOTR is the most impactful piece of fiction, maybe ever. Definitely in the last 100 years. You don’t just get to fuck with that and malign it without thought.
Assonfire@reddit
It's not about their ideology or whatever you want to believe. It's about money. It's been twenty years since the last movie, which had great success. Now they simply want to have a much bigger audience.
It was never about the books, it was never about ideology. It was about money. It is a company. A multi-billion company. They don't give a flying fuck about some bullshit people want to call woke or whatever. M O N E Y.
There are more people who want to watch a diverse people in some series than there are people who want to stick to the books. Get it into your brain. The only reason why such a company cares about skin colour, gender, sexual orientation or whatever, is because they can bank on it.
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
Do you really think these megacorporations with their billions of dollars in analysis and market research haven't figured out that most people don't like the ultraprogressive shit and those people are just a loud minority? Even though any idiot on the internet can figure that out?
Assonfire@reddit
The loud majority are the ones who cap yapping on about how "woke" attacks them and their values. They're the fucking snowflakes.
If you are really that fucking dense to think that. indeed, megacorporations with their billions of dollars in analysis and market research, know less than you (despite their numbers showing for themselves), then I can't help you. But go ahead and scream into your pillow about how "woke" destroys the world.
fjanko@reddit
except the majority of people don’t give a shit about identity politics in media. There’s a screeching minority who does and they can exert influence better than others, but if you look at the failure of Rings of Power or the success of new HP media, you see that most people, in fact, don’t care about identity politics.
Assonfire@reddit
I don't know, man. You call it a failure, but it was one of the reasons why their subscribers sky-rocketed from the moment season 1 came online. They are also coming with a season 3, which wouldn't happen if they weren't to have (unfortunately) success.
Not to mention their many nominations and the critical acclaim.
But you do you and call it a failure. Commercially it obviously isn't.
tangy_nachos@reddit
completely disagree.
Assonfire@reddit
Disagreeing that a company's sole drive is generating more money. OK.
Beginning_Stay_9263@reddit
It might be about money but not because people are paying for it. It was about money because Larry Fink (✡️) gives out low interest loans if you push the woke agenda.
Assonfire@reddit
Ah, I see the retards have found their new Soros. Because, obviously a billionaire working for a parasitic company and someone who worked with Trump, changes the world into something "woke", whatever the fuck that may be.
Crikett@reddit
Yeah it’s all about money. Hence the phrase “Go woke, get rich”.
HidenTsubameGaeshi@reddit
That's Bible
ImmaSuckYoDick2@reddit
Tolkien and LotR will, I think, in the future reach a similar level of importance as the Iliad. Since we don't categorize myths as being works of fiction I'm with you. LotR is a genuine contender for the most impactful fiction ever written. The overall themes are timeless and will resonate with people forever. But it is also clothed in very contemporary and period specific philosophies and ideals. Like the Iliad. In five hundred years scholars studying 1900s England will most likely use LotR and Tolkien like a modern scholar studying ancient Greece does Homer and the Iliad. I say this and LotR is not even my favorite fantasy series and Tolkien is not my favorite fantasy writer. Even so it is simply impossible to deny the objective greatness and impact of it and him.
regimentIV@reddit
I think books like the Bible, the Quran, or the Vedas (even of one should be right the others have to be fiction) have LotR beat by miles.
DethSonik@reddit
The Epic of Gilgamesh has those beat even more since they're loosely based on it.
ImmaSuckYoDick2@reddit
More myth than fiction imo
regimentIV@reddit
True.
havoc1428@reddit
rendar@reddit
Actually, breathing air is more important than reading ink marks on processed animal skin
ImmaSuckYoDick2@reddit
Curious_Claim_2285@reddit
You mean like Shakespearean studies?
CocaineBearGrylls@reddit
By "wokies," do you mean the current medical consensus? If you don't agree with modern medical science, go live in the woods somewhere away from civilization. Pathetic.
GasterIHardlyKnowHer@reddit
You can question most medical consensus, just not this one, ensuring you can't improve it
Plenty-Set-7258@reddit
You guys are worse than capeshit fans.
kerelberel@reddit
Obviously he has never seen Freddy Got Fingered
fatjoe19982006@reddit
Daddy would you like some sausage?
Gravesh@reddit
He said the most impactful piece of fiction. Not all fiction is anime, movies, and vidya. Some people have the basic self-discipline to sit down and read a book.
cell689@reddit
>One last thing Christopher, make sure that Shelob's human form is a totally hot and pale babe, reminiscent of the porn actress Stoya. Please Christopher... Please...
Deltango@reddit
This is canon
Rydagod1@reddit
Based.
Massive-Deer3290@reddit
Spider goth mommy was always part of the official canon, everywhere.
Bruskthetusk@reddit
J.R.R. Tolkien wanted to fuck spiders?
Interface-@reddit
As an Australian, I approve.
Icefox119@reddit
he wanted her stinger venom to shoot right up his pooper
Bruskthetusk@reddit
A man of culture.
1ncorrect@reddit
As someone with arachnophobia but also a crippling weakness for goths that was a tough one.
But not that tough.
FeeblyBee@reddit
You are literally as demonic as nonbinary hobbits
johnny_effing_utah@reddit
Wait is this random or a reference to something I missed?
cell689@reddit
Another greentext lol, you cna Google Tolkien shelob greentext
Foolishly_Sane@reddit
Oh wow, had to look it up, it certainly does look like her.
Still not buying it, but that is interesting.
BarryGoldwatersKid@reddit
I actually heard him say this during my communion with his spirit
Mystacron@reddit
Top kek
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
f4bj4n@reddit
Funny but not really fair since Christopher was a great guardian of his father’s legacy. It was after CHRISTOPHER died that the descecration of LotR started in earnest.
IrregularrAF@reddit
Christopher's defense was admittedly too harsh. If he controlled it more carefully there would have probably been stronger vetting for creative licensing that's been established over time. Instead it's become let anyone take it we don't care.
1ncorrect@reddit
I would have been just as harsh if I was getting pestered by greedy fuckers in suits at all times to sell out my father’s legacy.
richtofin819@reddit
"Remember sauron has to be like Walter white and the Peter Jackson lore trilogy followed the books too closely" -paraphrase of the current rights holder.
ParticularConcept548@reddit
Tbh this is written like tolkien compared to writers for rings of power
Beat9@reddit
You forgot the 2S you fucking bigot
Insomniac1997@reddit
This is absolutely incredible.
UnplacatablePlate@reddit
Don't all hobbits have feet hair and no beards?
Limgrave@reddit
And female dwarves have beards, all dwarves have beards from birth. When travel and leave their mountains, they are dressed to look like the men. To other races, they are almost indiscernible from the male dwarves and lead some to believe there are no women.
LostInAnotherGalaxy@reddit
I don’t see anything about beards lol
sofa_adviser@reddit
LostInAnotherGalaxy@reddit
That’s taking a somewhat stretch of the text imo. It’s overly literal. There are multiple passages talking about dwarven men having big beards… not one about the women
BoxofJoes@reddit
“Erm I know they said A has C and B looks identical to A to our eyes, but they didn’t explicitly say B has C so I don’t get it”
LostInAnotherGalaxy@reddit
Some siblings look nearly identical in the face, does that mean that the women grow beards? This is interpreting it to include beards while being given no reason to.
BoxofJoes@reddit
If that were the case I wouldn’t call them “so like [each other] that the eyes… of other peoples cannot tell them apart”. It isn’t a stretch to, when the text literally says that they have identical appearances, read that they do, in fact, have identical appearances. If the women didn’t have beards they’d be visually distinguishable, yet the text says that is not the case.
LostInAnotherGalaxy@reddit
It’s not literally though, it’s nearly indistinguishable from, not literally…
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
omg, the dwarfs are an incel race, NOOOOOOOO, they are my favorite race. what does that say about me? not only are they incels they are also greedy like some other race that we know of with certain facial features that stick out.
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
Loving one person and refusing to love another isn't incel, it is, like all things Tolkienian, trad,
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
thats not the incel part, its the part that only a third of dwarfs marry which means the rest of them are incels
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
Maybe they bang Driders?
rendar@reddit
Elves are way worse, they had a genocide just cus Galadriel didn't shell out her pubes to a some crusty grognard who made really, really shiny buttplugs
sethlyons777@reddit
Elves with pointy ears right?
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
right right, thats what i meant, no need to think about it too much *wink*
Winters1482@reddit
What did Tolkien mean by this?
DazedAndTrippy@reddit
Nobody reads books silly anon, they just get mad at video games on their computer!
sonofbaal_tbc@reddit
well of course, you need something to hold onto when smashing
SynisterSilence@reddit
Imagine the bush.
Content_Averse@reddit
Holy shit dwarves are an analogy for autistic people
badass_panda@reddit
Bruh right? This shit is literally canon
GotsomeTuna@reddit
Hobbits have 3 subraces. The Stoors are generally bigger and bulkier, closer to humans and could even grow some amount of facial hair.
However most of the hobbits we see and interact with in the books and movies are harfoots.
No idea about the feet hair.
Aardvark_Man@reddit
Yep.
It's part of the race.
dapperteco@reddit
Stop noticing and just get mad.
michaeltheobnoxious@reddit
Yeah, pretty sure its outlined as genetic features in the appendices.
Star_Platinum78@reddit
Femalw hobbits still have foot hair, anon never read or watched LotR
Evignity@reddit
This place has literally turned into /incel nowdays it's fucking tiring
GarglingScrotum@reddit
And they don't grow beards. Seems like no one in the comments here are familiar with the source material 💀
Jumugen@reddit
mostly bots or drones
TbanksIV@reddit
id rather be angry with my good friend and role model asmongold than have an accurate take about anything ok. how are women gonna know i want to abuse them if i don't signal to them that im an unfit partner?
1ncorrect@reddit
If Asmongold is a role model we should all walk into the ocean. Dude has roaches walking across his desk.
GotsomeTuna@reddit
The Stoors were noted to posses facial hair on occasion. Tho i assume the game mainly covers Harfoots.
ouiouisurmoi@reddit
Tarantino wouldn't have allowed that if he directed it.
phoncible@reddit
Some girl hobbits shave their feet so Tarantino doesn't get hair in his mouth
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
Its a damn shame. Would've bene day 1 purchase
proud_traveler@reddit
You know what I do when I meet a feature in a game that I don't care about, or that isn't aimed at me? I don't use it
I've never understood why people get so wound up about shit like this. Yeah it's performative from the gaming studios, but so what? Just ignore it. The studio could not care less what you think about it. you are just leading yourself to a early heart attack over nothing.
A game can have a million different sliders in for all I care, as long as it's a good game. Why would I give a fuck
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
if somebody serves you a shit sandwitch, you dont just eat around the shit. Games like this deserve all the ridicule they get.
proud_traveler@reddit
Lmao no way you think that's a relevant quote here? That's a quote about Nazis, not about some game not letting you play as a guy. Why do you even care? Are you saying representation in games does matter after all?
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
Nazis arent the only form of evil retard, just because the quote was used for Nazis doesnt mean you cant use it for other things.
I dont care about this game, but i do care about the butchering of LOTR and im not even that big of a fan like some people are. im here just to ridicule the last cries of the dying woke agenda. Represantation in games doesnt matter but i like some logic to my world building. Nothing more immersion breaking than seeing some random rural village that has the demographics spread of modern day LA. Its very obivous when represantation is shoehorned in and when its genuine. No issues with it when its done right.
What the wokies are doing to video games and other fiction is absolutely evil, they arent capable of creating something good, so they have to latch onto other popular media like some parasite and tries to suck out all life out of it until moving onto the next victim. Thank god that the woke movement is finaly somewhat dying out after the 20th FLOP of the century.
i care because i dont want the same to happen my favorite media.
proud_traveler@reddit
You seem to be taking this pretty seriously. You should consider if its healthy to have so much invested in a game lil bro. Its kinda sad. Please, go find a patch of grass, touch it, and realise none of this actually matters. You need to grow up lol
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
ah yes the classic strategy of "why do you care", if you dont care so much why are you commenting?
proud_traveler@reddit
Because I think there are legitimate things to care about in the world, and both sides of this argument waste so much energy arguing about stupid shit like this. Which is exactly the desired outcome of course
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
ok then go care about that? why are you wasting your energy here? why are you arguing if it doesnt matter?
proud_traveler@reddit
Reddit is hiding all your comments for me now, amazing stuff
I never said I didn't care about everything, I said I don't think that gender sliders in games are at all relevant or important, and I don't care about them. Because they aren't. The fact you care so much about something that has such a small impact on your life, if it has any impact at all, shows you are a deeply flawed person with nothing else in your life.
Are you telling me that someone with a girlfriend, or a wife, friends, a social life and something to actually live for, would care about this in the slightest?
"Slop" yeah the game is slop. So what? Just don't buy it. It's that easy. It's not slop because of gender sliders tho, those aren't relevant
I'm convinced you focus on this because you have literally nothing else going on. It's kinda sad
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
i wont buy it, im here just to ridicule it. Im happy that the woke agenda is finally dying. It just took 15 400 milion dollar flops.
Also i think you are overestimating how much i care about this, just because i want this slop to die off and for companies to stop ruining beloved franchises for greed, doesnt mean its the center of my universe. You do know that you can care about multiple things in life and not just the major ones? i have other issues in my life and obviously woke shit in video games isnt a priority, but i still care about the media i consume.
I dont know why this gay website is hiding my comments so cant help you there. Probably too many spicy comments
proud_traveler@reddit
No, a full stage 3 crash out over a game is you losing you shit. Go get yourself a social life and a girlfriend, you will realise none of this matters in the slightest
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
whatever you say man, continue to eat up slop and showing people on reddit how you dont care
proud_traveler@reddit
Right well I can see you replied and it got removed. And all I can say to that Is, you're the one losing your shit over a piece of media lol. You are entirely detached from reality, but then I guess that's just because you have nothing irl to care about
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
calling a retard a retard is losing my shit? ok buddy, go care about those things you have to care about IRL
proud_traveler@reddit
Partly because it annoys me to see people argue over something so obviously stupid. I think the fact you waste your time I. This, and other culture war rubbish, is a real issue.
Partly because I just like disagreeing with people
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
so you're a retard then, got it.
Britstuckinamerica@reddit
So you would complain if the game had something completely out of touch with the actual story, such as male hobbits suddenly having beards and women having hairless feet, right? Right?
Tin_Philosopher@reddit
worst case scenario, what happens if you accidentally jerk off to a hobbit with a dick because you didnt know where the slider was?
if you were in a position to make hobbits in a video game fuck and you accidentally had some hobbits scissoring, is the slider really the bad guy?
in what way is a hobbits gender relevant?
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
if its so irrelevant why is it pushed so much?
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
>a million sliders
>no 'male' option
proud_traveler@reddit
Okay, so what?
Are you saying it matters to have representation in games? Isn't that what you are arguing against?
I literally could not care less if my character is male, female, or whatever. It literally does not matter in any measurable way
quasarfern@reddit
Play it while sliding a million dialators
Never-Preorder@reddit
Buy slop get slop
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
The slop will flop until games improve.
evangelism2@reddit
You people have been crying about this stuff for over 10 years now and it hasn't stopped. Just get used to it already
LilSkeezers@reddit
Yeah, cuz that's what you do when art is destroyed - you just shut up and take it. Why don't you go take a long walk on a short pier.
evangelism2@reddit
lol yeah art is dead because theres a gender slider or skin tone selector. Talk about snowflakes.
LilSkeezers@reddit
Carelessly changing art to conform to modern standards is disgusting. It's anti-art, anti-artist, and anti-intellectual. It's worse when it's done simply to appeal to a demographic of potential spenders (I'm not fooling myself into thinking they did this because of their irl values).
evangelism2@reddit
yeah thats what art is known for, being stagnant, behind the times, and never changes
LilSkeezers@reddit
Art changes. That's good. Changing OLD pieces created by OTHER PEOPLE is bad. Come on, you know that. You're just being stubborn.
evangelism2@reddit
No one is going in and republishing TLOTR trilogy and adding pronouns and black people. This is a new game made in 2025 thats just part of the same greater IP.
LilSkeezers@reddit
IP. That's the key. Just make a new gay-as-the-day-is-long farming sim. I don't care. Just don't attach it to existing IP. Is everyone these days morally and creatively bankrupt?
And don't pretend like creative works don't become cultural touchstones. You mention you like a band, for ease of example, let's say the Rolling Stones. Well then, 40 years later, someone rerecords and re-releases the songs, and it's like remixed with shitty mumble-rap. Now your grankid who has no context thinks you have shit taste when you say you're a Stones fan.
evangelism2@reddit
this happens all the time, its called sampling. and no one confuses the remix or new track using samples with the original.
Same goes for this game vs the original trilogy. Nothing you said addresses my point except
to which I say... no. People build upon and add changes to existing IPs all the time. They evolve and grow and the original works are always there for you to enjoy.
FormerlyWrangler@reddit
That's phobic or something.
AgitatedKey4800@reddit
He who control the slop control the galaxy
danuk258@reddit
The slop must flow!
richtofin819@reddit
May the slops passing cleanse the world.
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
It is said God made slop to train the faithful. One cannot go against the word of God.
Robrogineer@reddit
The weirdest thing is that you literally cannot get rid of those weird mascara eyelashes. Every single character has them, there are no eye options that don't have them.
Even fucking Gandalf has it.
FesteringAnalFissure@reddit
Lmao did they actually yassify Gandalf? This shit is beyond slop it's reaching parody category
Robrogineer@reddit
Yes, it's that bad. My girlfriend was really looking forward to this game ever since I showed her Lord of the Rings, and once she saw that, she got genuinely livid.
YLedbetter10@reddit
I watched the IGN review and they were pretty harsh on it so I steered clear. I love cozy farming games and LOTR so I was so excited. How could you fumble such an easy formula.
Dead_HumanCollection@reddit
Must be pretty bad for IGN to be critical. I'm assuming "pretty harsh is like a 7/10"?
YLedbetter10@reddit
Idk I didn’t wait for the score. I just heard something like it had the most mind numbing bland activities and was already turned off.
Dead_HumanCollection@reddit
It got a 4/10 on IGN. Which translates into about a -15/10 on any other scoring system.
OrganicNobody22@reddit
Ya holy shit if you can't pay IGN enough to get you above a 5/10 your game is absolute slop
mostie2016@reddit
I’m not even a massive lord of the rings fan but this game genuinely looked so cute to me.
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
This game is a Stardew Valley/Animal Crossing clone with cute hobbits in it. It's made for teenage girls.
Robrogineer@reddit
My girlfriend's pretty much the exact target audience, and she despised it for those reasons.
Kinglygolfin@reddit
My girlfriend loves it :(((
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
Okay there, Jerry Seinfeld
Robrogineer@reddit
Learn to read, dimwit.
TbanksIV@reddit
Two things here I think are important to consider.
Lotr is ass and has always been ass. Just because our standards for fantasy were low because fantasy didn't really exist yet doesn't mean Lotr was good. Very similar to the beatles. They suck dick, and basically everyone knows it. But just because they took some black people music and changed it enough for a white crowd people call them revolutionary. They ass, it's okay.
This aint nothin new.
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
You wouldn't get it.
EtteRavan@reddit
I mean, videogame adaptations of movies or shows sucks ass most of the time, and this one adapts a show that already sucked. What did he expect ?
Gravesh@reddit
Lord of the Rings Online is pretty good (or was, during the heyday of MMOs). Probably the only game adaption of the books that I enjoyed.
EtteRavan@reddit
Yeah, the movie was peak (or very close to it), so of course "worse" would still be good
Gravesh@reddit
I actually think the trilogy wasn't all the great. I enjoyed the films.but.still think it can't be filmed. I don't know why.Jackson couldn't hande.The Hobbit, though. We animated.it 40 years ago. I think the problem came the studio insisting on a 2 parter.
theleetfox@reddit
I think the third saints row game had a gender slider to be fair, and other than subtle figure changes, I'm pretty sure it just changed the size of genitals and breasts. All the way one way, basically bursting out your pants. All the way the other, back ache for days.
B4N35P1R17@reddit
Cyberpunk over here making huge PP with huge Booba! They had the right idea on how to be inclusive!
Chuckaorange@reddit
Gender sure is important to a tonne of folks who will never reproduce
Plasma-Tiger@reddit
Imagine seeing the preview for this game and actually buying it, getting mad that it looked exactly like it did in all the promotional materials.
Like yeah it's the gayest game I've ever seen, but how could that catch you off guard?
TrueSgtMonkey@reddit
Seriously.
One of my friends hates Ubisoft, but has played every Assassin's Creed game and proceeds to shit all over the new ones after playing them.
You are actively supporting them while also bashing them.
If I think a game is going to suck, I stay away from it lol.
B4DD@reddit
Tin_Philosopher@reddit
maybe they dont think of all magical creatures in terms of does it have a dick or not
CrisPuga@reddit
Clearly OP hasn't read the silmarillion, where it states that all male hobbits are gay and look like femboys.
ThirdXavier@reddit
Hobbits cant grow beards and all have hairy feet thats lotr canon
NegativeScythe@reddit
I wouldn't play as a hobbit no matter what they look like. One of the worst fantasy races in all of fiction.
Satyrsol@reddit
I'm fairly certain that, aside from the hairiness of their feet, hobbits are supposed to be cherubic and innocent, which is why the Scouring of the Shire hits so hard. Not having masculine features fits the ticket tbh. Only a few of them are ever described in a traditionally manly way, and those are the heroes of the hobbits.
Din_Plug@reddit
Is this a mobile game or one for GameCube that I haven't heard about?
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
MONKEY TARGET!!!!
drums, drums in the deep
GeneralUranuz@reddit
Tales of the Shire. Nintendo game, released on the 29th of July.
mcdaidde@reddit
for all platforms.. somehow. looks like dogshit
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
"For all platforms" means it's optimized for the shittiest platform
bumford11@reddit
Ah, so GameCube game
GeneralUranuz@reddit
Yeah. I've been playing it with my donkey kong bongo controller. Having such a good time.
AlwaysHungry815@reddit
Why don't they make battlefield anymore
PrivilegeCheckmate@reddit
https://insider-gaming.com/battlefield-6-already-has-over-600k-steam-sales-and-2-7m-wishlists/
HakosbaelZhusband@reddit
Battlefield 6 drops in Oct I think. Open beta is going on this weekend
Representative_Toe79@reddit
This is great and I love it and it's not just the Reddit shock collar that's making me say that. I think this game will sell bajillions.
SwimmingResist5393@reddit
But I want to play as rare mythical species such as males.
Angelore@reddit
bzzzzt
Representative_Toe79@reddit
This might not be the best idea and I am not saying it because of my Tumblr-approved lobotomy.
Lukthar123@reddit
Kek
Cumsocktornado@reddit
just stop buying this shit and move on, gotdam
SolidusAbe@reddit
why is he complaining about some dumb licensed game from 20 years ago
Gravesh@reddit
This isn't LOTRO. it's a game that was released about 2 weeks ago.
SolidusAbe@reddit
seriously? shit looks like that old hobbit game on pc
Bricc_Enjoyer@reddit
20 years ago there never would have been current day political diversion slop in games
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
>20 years ago
Anon, I-
LilSkeezers@reddit
Every smarmy dipshit here retorting with "ayhactually, hobbits don't have facial hair, and the girls have feet hair. OP doesn't know the source material." How about the source material of the post? The GENDER SLIDER is the complaint. A gender slider where even the manliest setting only results in a masc looking lady. Fucking gender slider gtfo
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
W for me. I've always hated Hobbits.
badass_panda@reddit
They should change it so hobbits can be super buff and grow big long braided beards and carry axes and wear chainmail and work in mines deep under the mountains just like Tolkein described hobbits doing.
You dumbasses.
Goatsalv@reddit
It’s actually insane how the quality of LOTR games have dropped like a stone. From like the classic PS2 era games up to shadow of Mordor/war were peak. Then gollum and then this.
sabrefudge@reddit
Hobbits don’t grow beards, bro. Stoors sometimes had a bit, but it was barely anything.
And female hobbits have foot hair too.
This is canon.
Learn Tolkien, Learn Fantasy.
Drunk_Krampus@reddit
>choose male gender
>character looks ftm
>choose female gender
>character looks mtf
If this goes any further it will just get back to basic genders, only reversed. You'll just have to choose male if you want to play a female character and choose female if you want to play a male character.
bring_back_3rd@reddit
I'd rather play tetris, tbh
rlaxowns@reddit
Literally the greatest video game of all time
the_m4nagement@reddit
Rather kms, tbh.
thyturnip@reddit
Me too, I love stacking blocks of color
Garchomp47@reddit
With graphics of ps 1 game
Medothelioma@reddit
I was gonna penalize points for leaning a bit too much into the rage, but apparently people bit all the same. 4/10 ragebait
LordMimsyPorpington@reddit
Did you actually watch The Lord of the Rings? The Hobbits were namby-pamby ass motherfuckers.
camstadahamsta@reddit
Hairy footed women is canon
AnchorTea@reddit
I love seeing anons complain about nothing
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
>Redditor for 10 years
Fascinating how you can always tell.
Skullcrimp@reddit
pipe down Generic_NPC_0568numbers
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
"guys its nothing"
"ok its something, but its a good thing"
"YOU"RE the problem for not liking this"
Walden_Walkabout@reddit
Anon gets mad at lore accurate characters.
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blutigetranen@reddit
Inclusion by exclusion.
Rtsd2345@reddit
Im so mad about this, im ganna go vote for a pedophile
richtofin819@reddit
To be clear all hobbits have feet fair. It's a racial trait last I checked. The rest is valid but honestly it's just one facet of a very mediocre game all around.
Cosplayinsanity@reddit
and people call queer folk snowflakes
champs@reddit
> pushes hypermasculinity.
And then one day, for no reason at all, fewer people accept the gender binary.
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
That doesn't sound as cool as it did in your head.
inquisitor0731@reddit
If Tolkien could see the state of modern Britain he’d prefer to go back to being dead
Openil@reddit
Some valid complaints but p sure hobbits can't grow beards and they all have hairy feet.
Robrogineer@reddit
Don't some have sideburns?
Mista_Infinity@reddit
In the movies sure, don’t think there was ever written description of sideburn hobbits
Robrogineer@reddit
Pretty sure it's mentioned that some hobbits can grow a bit of facial hair, but it's uncommon.
Mista_Infinity@reddit
Yeah you’re right, but it was only Stoors who could grow facial hair. Most hobbits are Fallohides
Robrogineer@reddit
Then wouldn't it make sense for it to be an option? Why not let the player look like a Stoor?
Key_Disk_2751@reddit
That wouldn't be lore-friendly, the game takes place in an ethnically homogenous Fallohide region of the shire. Anyway make half of them black and a quarter Asian.
idlemachine@reddit
But inclusion is bad have you forgot?
AntiProtonBoy@reddit
Stoors have been mingling with menfolk for generations, the hethens
HatefulSpittle@reddit
Hobbits are the South-East Asians of Middle-Earth.
There's a reason why the Shire was such a popular destination for sex pests like Gandalf and that group of gay dwarves. What guy here wouldn't turn gay for hobbits, if your alternative would be stinky, bearded dwarf women?
Frodo is a gay femmeboy. Bilbo a pederast.
Ausfall@reddit
kino
Hobbits are the twinks of lotr anyways though. If this was a dwarf game I'd be more mad.
rivent2@reddit
I know the solution is always not to buy it, but it would have been nice having a lord of the rings farming sim to play with the boys. It isn't even multiplayer.
jizzyjazz2@reddit
when did vidya discussions turn into circlejerks around what slider the game does or doesn't have when creating a character? anyway this game looks like it sucks anyway so why even waste air on it
Dangerous_Strain4036@reddit
didnt you hear? its a crime to be a man, unless you're a train
some_guy554@reddit
Blud has never seen a hobbit before.
Tommy_____Vercetti@reddit
bla bla bla woke cringe bla bla bla. If only gaymers would do something sometimes and vote with their wallets, maybe ((they)) would stop pushing this shit so much
dickyboy69@reddit
Did they ever read the fucking books?
Babki123@reddit
Okay I know you really have a hard on for binary choice because yall are robot but having a slider is the objectively better choice
And non hairy feet hobbit would.be a crime.
Now the rest if the caracter creation is indeed complete shit
johnskiddles@reddit
Hobbits have feet hair.
C4CTUSDR4GON@reddit
Would rather a slide between two genders than 10 different gender options.
Nutaholic@reddit
Does it look like a ps2 game on purpose?
notapandah@reddit
kind of a cool idea for customization just bad execution and a awful coat of paint.hseriously why do people keep doing this they know everyone will hate it)
AdmiralAkbar1@reddit
Because they're ideologues first and marketers second.
PooInTheStreet@reddit
Free marketing
arbiter12@reddit
Hate-marketing can only takes you so far. Sure a minority will play it because they feel represented and another minority will play it out of spite. As for the rest of us, we're just asking "hum....where is the rest of the game? You know, beyond the slider...?".
And this is where they always fail.
Robrogineer@reddit
Biggest issue is that every single fucking character [even Gandalf] has those luscious massive yassigied eyelashes.
marius_titus@reddit
Let it fail, let the idiots that made it lose their jobs. Buying that shit will only make it happen more and more.
Wyverrr@reddit
very few hobbies were able to grow facial hair. and every single one has feet hair
PooInTheStreet@reddit
Cool it with the antisemitism