Any good books on natural monopolies?
Posted by Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 16 comments
Hello, I've been going through the libertarian rabbit hole, and one thing that I've always found weird (other than the whole anti democracy thing) was the libertarian talking point about natural monopolies. I never quite understood it, so if anyone has a good book or article that they could tell me about, it would be much appreciated. Ty
JagerGS01@reddit
Mises talks about monopolies in Human Action. But I have no idea what differentiates a monopoly from a natural monopoly.
natermer@reddit
The idea of a 'natural monopoly' is that that there are goods and services that naturally lend themselves to being monopolies.
Most often this is in reference to public utilities, like water or sewage. The idea there is that you can't really have lots of companies digging their own private sewer systems to many buildings in a crowded city.
Or with telecommunications you can't have 30 or 40 different small businesses stringing lines all over town to provide 30 or 40 different telephone or internet services. This is a argument in favor to the sort of regional monopolies that governments award to cable internet/tv companies and telephone companies.
There is also the idea of "natural monopolies" were market forces result in one company dominating a entire market due to network effects or economies of scale. Some people claim that software is a example of a natural monopoly because it is more efficient that everybody uses the same OS, or something like that. This argument is unimpressive, IMO.
Most of these are easy to dismantle if you example the technology closer.
For example electricity, water, internet service, natural gas services... these are all fungible commodities. Meaning that you can provide all these services down "one pipe".
Like you don't have to run 10 electrical cables to your house to have the pick of 10 electrical companies. They could all connect to the same local grid and use the same wires for the most part because all of their electricity follows a particular standard. Just need to have a method of accounting who produces and consumes in a particular network. Which is, in fact, how our national grid works.
Same thing for internet. Running regional cable networks is relatively inexpensive. There are several companies that have redundant fiber networks in any given area. There are others that have their own "private internet" that is just for their traffic that is regional/nationa/international. This is how Youtube works and CDNs. They use private networks for delivering content and plumb into ISP centers closer to customers.
It is the "last mile" of internet service that is the most expensive... that is the massive number of local network connections that need to be made to each customer. However you can have multiple frequencies that use the same fiber and make it so they don't interfere with one another. So you could have potentially hundreds of ISP to choose from over one "last mile" network.
Which means you don't need dozens of redundant local networks to choose from ISP providers anymore then you need dozens of redundant local roads to choose from any number of trucking services to deliver goods.
There is a excellent paper published by The Cato Institute in 1994 called "Unnatural Monopoly: Critical Moments in the Development of the Bell System Monopoly" that goes into detail of how the government conspired to eliminate competition.
A key component of this is the abuse of the common law concept of "Common Carrier" that FCC used as a excuse to regulate prices between regional carriers. They used their authority, very purposefully, to make sure that AT&T had a competitive advantage in every exchange, which over time allowed them to eliminate all competition and protect the Bell monopoly.
They show that the monopoly wasn't based around patents or innovation or "natural monopoly" forces. But was a deliberate policy choice by the Federal Government to create a monopoly.
I can't link it because reddit will just delete my post, but it is easy to find.
Governments would much rather have 2 or 3 dominate corporations in any particular field because it makes their job easier while avoiding the appearance of creating monopolies and suffocating competition. Having to manipulate and regulate 3 companies is a lot easier and cheaper then having to do it with hundreds of thousands of competing ones.
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
But a question of mine is, is it more efficient? Like would it be bett
natermer@reddit
Historically speaking very large dominate companies don't really last that long. The idea that they offer a lot of stability or job security working for a big company versus a small one doesn't often pan out.
Like if you look at fortune 500 companies from 50 years ago there is a lot less overlap with the 500 companies of today.
The companies that stay at the top the longest tend to be ones with close ties to the government, like defense agencies. And more socialist the economy the the longer they tend to last.
There are a few reasons for that.
One is that 'economy of scale' is a sword that cuts both ways. Maintaining a large organization is expensive and difficult. Companies are naturally risk adverse and they will incorporate "lessons learned" into their bureaucracy, which is effectively the operating system in which the organization operates off of. The larger the organization the more complex and expensive it is to maintain that "operating system".
A easy example to illustrate this is the requirements for "physical security". You don't want random people walking into your business HQ and making off with stuff.
A smaller business with, maybe, 100 or 200 employees... most everybody knows each other at that point.
There is a thing called "Dunbar's number" and it represents how many people a average person can maintain a close personal relationship with and it caps around 150 or so. So in a organization of 200 people pretty much everybody knows everybody. You can do things like have the owner hand out keys to people that need to open up in the morning, cleaning crew, and people that need to shut down at night and more then likely keep that straight in his head or with very simple checkout system.
Compare that to a company with 2000 or 3000 people. At that scale a typical business is always going to be hiring and firing somebody. People and contractors and such things come and go. So if you walk down a hallway during business hours you are going to run into people you never seen before, people you might have said 'hi' to once or may not be sure about, etc.
It is very possible, at that point, for some random guy to get a hold of a company directory somewhere and memorize a few higher-ups names and simply dress the part and they could just walk in and do pretty much whatever they want. People will just assume he is a new hire, working for some other department, visiting from some other branch, part of a cleaning crew, or a contractor.
So at that point you need to probably invest in a security guard or two. You'll need name tags, badges, HR software to keep employment straight, etc etc. This means more contractors, software for the security system, cameras, guy to come in and wire up badges, a person to maintain lists of names, cameras, software directory systems for the computers, etc etc.
Costs go from maybe a couple thousand a year to now having to maintain entire salaries. Looking at few hundred thousand dollars at least.
And when you get into companies that have many multiple thousands or ten thousand of employees... You have multiple branches, lawyers on staff, HR departments, security departments, IT staff.... Thousand of people employed for the sole purpose of maintaining the organization. None of that contributes to the bottom line from selling goods/services to customers at prices they are willing to pay.
Then you start to run into problems like "Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy" (look it up). This is where the people that run the bureaucracy tend to be people who are least productive and mostly interested in internal politics.
This has a side effect of "ossification". Large complex organizations tend to extremely slow to change.
This then conflicts with the second major issues...
The economy is always changing.
Large companies can become large and dominate through being innovative and adopting new technology. They figure how to supply customer's needs cheaper, better, faster, etc.
So in a free market it wouldn't be unusual for various companies to rise to dominate their industry in as little as 20 years.
But time changes things and markets are (mathmatically) impossible to predict. Which means they are effectively random. Also competition means that other competing companies will adopt those changes and start introducing their own.
So something that made a company very succesfull and winner in, say, 1975... can be the very thing that destroys them in 2015. Even if they keep doing what they doing as times changes it makes good decisions bad ones.
And if they can't change and they can't keep up, then they die.
All of this is why we see a lot of "big tech" companies like Microsoft or Apple or Google having to go around and spend billions of dollars buying up small companies.
Because of their size and "ossification" they really have become incapable of serious innovation. If they could be "the next big thing" they wouldn't have to buy up these smaller nimble and more innovative companies all the time.
And if you pay attention to the products they sell... a lot of time they will spend a huge amount of money on buying something that ends up going nowhere because they can't even do anything with it.
I've worked for big companies that are so hard-up for finding "new things" and "new talent" that they will buy up smaller companies just to get their employees. They didn't care about the product at all... they wanted the employees because they lost the ability to find them on their own.
Organizational issues are a serious problem.
All of this is why "economies of scale" and "efficiency" is not a given. It may be true one day, but not the next.
Big factories that one year are revolutionary and making money hand over fist... in later years become such a drag that the company can't even sell them. So they just end up abandoned because they cost more then they are worth.
So when you have governments step and "decide" who is the "market leader"... There is a chance they could be right. But they might be only right for a short time period. Or maybe a long time.
It really becomes little more then a guessing game.
Were as if you depend on market forces big companies come and go and their assets get sold and incorporated into more efficient firms and things evolve and change based on what is needed by customers in a dynamic environment.
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
Oh and for the companies example, is this what's happening to Intel? Since they've been on a decline ever since the 2020s
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
Holy you right a lot, but thx for the explanation. But, if companies want to avoid that, wouldn't they just need to be more decentralized with their locations? Like rather than opening one big factory with 2k workers, couldn't they build 10 smaller factories?
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
Holy yap, I actually read all of it, and that's a great explanation, thx :)
rendrag099@reddit
This is what so few people recognize when it comes to regulations in general. It's why they welcome big biz involvement in writing the regulations... harder to solicit "donations" from 100's of companies, but getting 1 company to write a big fat check or having a high-paying, cushy, lobbying job waiting for them when they leave "public service" is so much easier at a billion dollar business.
properal@reddit
The Triumph of Conservatism by Gabriel Kolko
Article:
The Myth of Natural Monopoly
LibertarianTrashbag@reddit
I don't have any book recs and I'm not an economist, but I think it goes something like this:
Natural monopolies are really only possible when a) supply is inherently finite, and b) everyone in the economy is a perfectly rational actor playing the game of wealth maximization (I think this is roughly the game theoretic formulation of economics, correct me if I'm wrong).
When these conditions are met, a company can reach a point where they are able to buy up all existing supply, and everyone who currently owns the supply is willing to sell because it's in their economic best interest.
However, as it so happens in the real world, not everyone is playing the game this way, and smaller companies may fight forced buy outs in ways that prevent a full monopoly even when supply is finite. When this happens, the monopoly is not complete and eventually will have its market share slowly eaten until it's reduced back down to a mere heavy hitter in the market.
And besides, many markets do not rely on finite resources, so this is a complete non-issue for them.
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
Ok ty, but one key point I want to ask, what market isn't finite? Bc technically every market relate to one another in some shape or form.
LibertarianTrashbag@reddit
I think in general there's a lot of hand waving when applying theoretical principles to real life. In this sense, when we say a market isn't finite, we must mean that supply is sufficiently large to accommodate a realistic number of competing firms.
As an example, we grow so much food in America that it's effectively impossible to permanently corner the market on a food product without legislative help. If you make corn chips and someone else wants to compete with you by making their own corn chips, you can't possibly buy enough corn to stop them from doing so.
rendrag099@reddit
I haven't seen any books specifically on Natural Monpolies, but Thomas DiLorenzo has written a good scholarly article on the topic: The Myth of Natural Monopoly | Mises Institute
Appropriate-Gene5235@reddit (OP)
Ok ty :)
TildeMester@reddit
What the fuck is a natural monopoly? Monopolies are never natural.
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