It's crazy how much Amazon drivers are exploited and taken advantage of, while Jeff Bezos has $300 billion.
Posted by Fire_Raptor_220@reddit | Libertarian | View on Reddit | 79 comments
Let's explore the life of an exploited Amazon driver (Speaking as a former one). Every day, he works under extreme pressure to get his route done on time. If he doesn't, his managers will threaten to take away his next shift.
After a long two weeks, he finally picks up his paycheck. At $20 per hour, he should have $1600. But the federal government reaches in and takes $250. Add the stuff like state income taxes, social security taxes, and his $1600 paycheck is reduced to $1250.
He needs a car to get to work. So, he spends his already-taxed income on a car - on which he also has to pay sales tax. And before he can drive it legally, he has to pay $200 to register it, which he will have to pay again every year going forward. He also has to pay $60 to get it a SMOG check here in California, which he will have to pay every two years going forward.
He also has to pay for any repairs in order to help his car pass smog. If he gets his catalytic converter stolen, the state of CA will require him to spend over $1,000 (plus sales tax!) on an OEM catalytic converter. He CANNOT buy an aftermarket catalytic converter.
After he buys his car, he realizes he's low on fuel, so he needs to fill up. Gas should only cost $2.50, but the government has banned him from purchasing Russian oil, which raises the price by ~$1.00. California also requires a special blend of gasoline, which adds another $0.15. Add state and federal gas taxes, and he now has to pay $4.50.
And if he sells his car? He has to pay income tax on it.
He then goes to the store. Because of the high fuel prices, everything at the store is more expensive. A bag of cheese which should cost $4 now costs $8. Everything at the grocery store is so expensive, and he has so little money, that he has to decide whether it's really worth it to buy an extra roll of paper towels when he runs out.
Rent is due the next day, but because the government taxes his landlord for simply owning property, the cost of this property tax is passed on to him, causing his rent to increase - not to mention the government's horrible zoning laws and rent control laws, which has severely reduced the supply of affordable housing, making his rent more expensive.
Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to print money, which the banks use to make even more money at the expense of consumers. Politicians argue that this is a good thing because it stimulates the economy. But whatever money this Amazon driver has left over, he has zero incentive to save, because of how rapidly his dollar is declining in value. He watches how groceries, rent, cars, college education, and his health insurance premiums all increase in price far faster than his wages due to inflation.
So, after he pays his rent, he feels angry, so he goes on Twitter to complain that the person ruining his life is Jeff Bezos.
CNM2495@reddit
So don't do the job. The reason the job exists in current state is because people are willing to do it. Crying mean ole billionaire changes nothing. The job doesnt exist without him.
WindBehindTheStars@reddit
The term "exploited" is misused here as the driver enters into the position voluntarily and can leave at whim. You may think better pay and more reasonable conditions should exist, but it's by no means exploitation. Not even a little bit.
cYfgd@reddit
well they can't exactly leave at whim, can they? unfortunately switching jobs is just not that simple and until they found a new job they are at mercy to the government...
WindBehindTheStars@reddit
The government is going to use force to keep them working for Amazon unless they've found a new job?
shadows-of_the-mind@reddit
The beauty of the free market is that nobody is holding a gun to your head and saying you have to work there. If labor conditions are so grueling then people should quit en masse and force Amazon to change their ways. In a way yes I am talking about unions. Private unions are a great tool for demanding change from a megalithic company. Prove to them that their bottom line jobs are important, and there’s no government intervention necessary.
cYfgd@reddit
Sure... but somebody's got to build the roads for the Amazon driver to drive on
redditisapos187@reddit
I thought this was going to focus on Amazon's poor business ethics regarding managing human resources, but this was just a rant about US taxes. Cool. Vote better.
machinehead3413@reddit
If voting could solve this why hasn’t it? We’ve had 250 years to get it right.
The uniparty will not save you because the system is working exactly the way they want it to.
redditisapos187@reddit
It's a better system than just bitching to the void that is the internet...
It's the system we have available to us. It might seem like shit at times, but it's still a lot better than a lot of other countries out there 🙁
machinehead3413@reddit
It’s really about efficiency. Complaining on Reddit takes less effort and it has the same odds of meaningful change.
The people you go vote for are the same people who benefit from the status quo. It works exactly as designed.
A system that gives us Trump, Biden, Harris as choices is supposed to solve our problems? What a joke.
eno4evva@reddit
A lot more needs to be said about zoning laws and NIMBYs.
lowrads@reddit
Amazon warehouses are typically located on busing lines. The old shuttered mall lot that was turned into a warehouse in many cities is often a major transfer point between routes.
landdon@reddit
You obviously have no idea how much it costs to resurface a helicopter landing pad on a yacht.
Tasty_Impress3016@reddit
I honestly don't know why anyone voluntarily lives in California.
That's what refer to as self-inflicted damage.
only_Zuul@reddit
The weather is so nice that it has made me a soft little crybaby if I tried to live anywhere else, and I inherited a house from my dead parents that I own outright.
But even at that I might sell and retire somewhere else with a much bigger and nicer house and just stay indoors with air conditioning 24/7.
Tasty_Impress3016@reddit
Well that will definitely take some of the sting out of it. Although good for you if you do want to move. I had a friend who had a condo in Manhattan beach. He sold it and moved to colorado springs. He had to buy a 5,600sq ft house in the foothills of the mountains to re-invest and avoid capital gains taxes.
twittalessrudy@reddit
When I was there for 3 months, the weather was perfect. It did my body and mind a lot of good being able to go outside and get some exercise while it was the dead of winter in the midwest
Tasty_Impress3016@reddit
The weather is very good. Unless it's mudslide season.
But there are many places with good weather that don't have 10% income tax and 8% sales tax, A highways system that is the joke of the country, and housing costs that are outrageous, and overcrowding, and wildfires because of mismanagement, and crime rates that would make Ecuador blush.
I consider it a bit like Manhattan. I love to visit. I would never live there.
knapper91@reddit
“But it’s so pretty, and the sights, and our government cares about us.” Brainwashed. I will say California is pretty, not pretty enough to live there.
bulldoggamer@reddit
I just finished a 4 month stint as a delivery driver for Amazon and that shit was a great job minus the pay. Cant really support a wife and 2 kids on that. But the work was pretty easy. I was basically never rushed, in fact I worked like 35 hours a week and still got paid for 40.
You need to organize your shit better brother. Get the overflow in order and sort your bags.
Joe_Immortan@reddit
I think the post is tongue in Cheek. The title suggest that Amazon is the problem, but the meat of the Post are the ways that government is interfering from OP, realizing the full benefit of his wages
bulldoggamer@reddit
I was just making fun of him for calling the job hard.
l1ttlebrittle@reddit
I hate taxes. That is all.
shodan13@reddit
Imagine getting services for them.
TheBigNoiseFromXenia@reddit
Robert Cray, the 1040 Blues
exvnoplvres@reddit
Got to see the man play several times back in the late '80s and early '90s. Hope he's still going strong!
ChrisFromLongIsland@reddit
You somehow blame Bazos for the government's actions. This is such a bizarre take.
audigabber94@reddit
You didn't get the meaning of the post.
gatornatortater@reddit
I don't think I am getting it either. What am I missing?
audigabber94@reddit
The post explains how society thinks. Everyone is fed up with billionaires supposedly hoarding all the wealth for themselves and stealing from the poor. While the only ones who actually does the stealing, is the government thru taxes.
pallladin@reddit
This is false.
gatornatortater@reddit
Probably depends how you do it. If you're just counting the miles, then no. But if you're counting the whole thing as business equipment so you can directly write off the expenses like gas and repairs then selling that equipment would count as income.
huge43@reddit
Had me in the 1st half
mountaineer30680@reddit
Not gonna lie...
knapper91@reddit
Paragraphs 2-6 are generally under your control, leave California. Gas is $2.50 in my area, a block of cheese (stop buying bagged cheese, they charged you double for shredding it) is $4, no smog, no inspections, I’ve never paid income tax on a vehicle.
Bezos isn’t your problem(in this scenario, he’s still a problem overall) it’s that shithole California. Stop complaining about your situation unless you’re going to do something to fix it.
Final point: fuck taxes, California, smog, Bezos, the fed, and taxing taxed money. (I agree with you, not attacking you. But you gotta fight to survive)
120SR@reddit
Hate to break it to you, but people stay in CA for the same reason many people stay in their respective hometown. Family.
In some states it’s below average wages, in CA it’s above average cost of living people make sacrifices for reasons. Doesn’t mean CA isn’t apart of the US. It’s a massive place full of people who don’t agree with the state government.
Sincerely, someone who worked in the central agricultural valley
knapper91@reddit
As a Midwesterner, your first point is spot on. I’ve listened to people complain about their surroundings since I was little, just to continue saying “I should get out” for 30+ years. They never will.
Agreed, that’s why Oregon, Idaho, Texas, etc housing markets are sky rocketing. (Part of it). There were (might still be going on, I kinda live under a rock now) people leaving in droves for various reasons with California money and paying over asking price on housing. Not blaming just stating.
What I’m trying to convey, until people stand up and say “enough is enough” nothing is going to change. California or dc, location doesn’t matter. You have to fight to survive.
devnull791101@reddit
amazon reduces inflation 2-3% in every country that it opens, an economic stimulus worth trillions. let jeff have his money. that doesn't mean drivers cant get a better deal but there's no need for the vilanisation
worcesterbeerguy@reddit
So many people did not actually read this
kdawg-bh9@reddit
You do realize that with a corporation, whoever owns the most amount of shares technically owns the company. He doesn’t have $300 billion in his hands, overwhelming majority of it is in the market.
psilocydonia@reddit
Did anyone actually read the guys post?
kdawg-bh9@reddit
I did. But I thought I’d just throw that out there because he titled it the way he did. He doesn’t have 300 million lying around.
OP’s title makes it sound like he’s blaming Bezos for the issues when his post says the government is the problem.
psilocydonia@reddit
Which is intentional, it’s totally out of place in the sub (and in reality) so it serves as the hook to hopefully get you to read the post.
bigdonut99@reddit
No, apparently not...
Kilted-Brewer@reddit
Seriously. I thought it was a riot.
People are always so quick to dogpile.
saggywitchtits@reddit
Something Don and I agree on.
JimmyTheIntern@reddit
Next person who calls me a "tax payer" to my face is catching hands.
JagerGS01@reddit
A lot of taxes mentioned in this story
goldenrod1956@reddit
As libertarian as the next guy but if the Amazon Driver/OP is unhappy then make some lifestyle changes.
libertarianinus@reddit
So he is forced to work at Amazon? Come work at McDonald's in California for the same amount. Apply for a job in the school district for a bus driver position at $25 a hour plus benefits. If you worked at Amazon in 1997 place all your money in that stock. 10k in 1997 would be 42 million today.
1upcas@reddit
Didn't read the post
diderooy@reddit
I can't tell if this comment is sarcastic or not.
TellThemISaidHi@reddit
I think OP's point was: Guy works at Amazon, proceeds to list every way that the government ruins his life, so the guy blames Bezos.
Because blaming government would require reflection on one's voting.
modernswitch@reddit
Most of the stuff you posted like taxes and car stuff about happen no matter what company you work for lol.
Roctopuss@reddit
CurrentComplex2020@reddit
You don't pay income tax on selling a personal vehicle.
Unless you sell for more than you paid. It is a depreciating asset.
Even then most people wouldn't report the full sales price if the person is paying part of it in cash.
Santosp3@reddit
Well the driver couldn't eat without Bezos so there's that.
patientpadawan@reddit
Don't forget people will also say minimum wage is why they are poor.
legend_of_wiker@reddit
Wait isn't the story supposed to end with him complaining on reddit about jeff bezos?
Real talk fuck all this shit. I pay like 30% of my income on all this taxes and maintenance-like fees. Meanwhile I hear of alleged stories that the rich pay less than 10% of their "income" on taxes (quotes bc they use bullshit loopholes to circumvent it)
HatredInfinite@reddit
If you're only paying 30% once all the dust settles you're lucky (as much as one cam be lucky while being fucked out of their hard earned wages). I'm paying almost that much just by the time I get my check, then comes all the various other taxes every time I go to actually spend my money or make sure my vehicle is "legal" or keep a roof over my head, etc.
legend_of_wiker@reddit
The 30% was just how much is stolen from my labor as it hits my bank account. Wasn't accounting for when I actually go to use that money
HatredInfinite@reddit
I must have misunderstood what you meant by "maintenance-like fees" then. I took that to mean things like maintaining vehicle registration and up-to-date property taxes and so on and so forth.
vNerdNeck@reddit
And how much revenue did you generate?
The closer to revenue creation you are, the more you'll be paid. When you are on the cost center side of the house, it's not gonna be paid gloriously
timstir1@reddit
Bezos “has” $300 billion, or is “worth” $300 billion. I’ve always struggled with headlines and simple people who mistake worth with actual holdings. He doesn’t HAVE $300 billion or anywhere near it unless he sells his stake. He can leverage it as he pleases and make it liquid however it isn’t the same as having it in an account. OP, how do you propose he transfers his “wealth” to the drivers? It isn’t all salary or bonus, it’s what he holds onto to maintain his position in the company. If he lets too much go, he risks losing the company to greedy investment companies which will only look to turn more of a profit at the expense of the consumer.
vorker42@reddit
Are you familiar with how stock rich individuals can borrow against their stock, pay minimal interest, and defer capital gains such that their net worth in stock is effectively their net worth after-taxes, but they still own the corporation. So they are in effect double dipping. Is it more Libertarian to want some to get fucked by the government royally, and others get away from said fucking? Or for all to get fucked by the government equally, so we’re all mad, so we all want to change the system, for everyone.
Kilted-Brewer@reddit
Good job OP. That’s was some excellent satire.
Hopefully more folks will actually read it.
CCWaterBug@reddit
I got bored reading this, sorry.
It sounds like a generic rant loosely based on facts. Just say "i hate bezos" and save us all some time.
Avtamatic@reddit
No, read it. It's actually gold, and not some commie rant about duh billionaires
GangstaVillian420@reddit
It's totally a story about a commie ranting on Twitter about billionaires. Reread the last line
KroneckerDelta1@reddit
Pretty clearly spent more time writing this uninformed comment than actually reading before getting "bored".
Miserable_Layer_8679@reddit
If you read it, you will realize it isn’t about bezos
MixtapeFyre@reddit
You can’t be exploited if you willingly opt into the job.
Get a new job and shut the fuck up.
That is all.
flyinghorseguy@reddit
Yawn. You forgot the part about the man who created Amazon from nothing and risked all he had to do so.
KroneckerDelta1@reddit
You don't pay income taxes on the sale of a car unless you sold it for more than you bought it for, which is all but no one.
Morkhant@reddit
For those in a hurry, the TDLR: /s It sucks working for Amazon because you work hard for a company that you chose to work for. Meanwhile, the government forces you to pay taxes in many forms without your consent. Be sure to explain to everyone how working for Amazon involves unavoidable wage theft.
The moral: Always be aware of alternatives. Employment has alternatives. There are much fewer alternatives to taxation.
ManyThingsLittleTime@reddit
I already knew you lived in California before I even got to the word California just by the costs you mentioned.
oilkid69@reddit
Stop worrying about people with more money than you.
Avtamatic@reddit
Bro, I was about to say the same thing. Read it fully. Its actually pretty good
Miserable_Layer_8679@reddit
It’s not about bezos, read the thing