What’s your countries equivalent to 9/11?

I didn’t start talking to people from other parts of the world until I was like 14 and was astounded that other people know about major events in the US

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TopBoysenberry8563@reddit

I never thought about that. Not sure but Đinđićs assassination can be Serbian equivalent of jfk assassination.

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YourFath3r@reddit

The HBO mini series on this event is amazing. Recommend it with two hands. Name is Operation Sabre. Also - watch it in Serbian.

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RustCohle_23@reddit

I actually just thought this is Netflix worthy when I read the wikipedia article. Will surely try to watch it some time soon.

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TopBoysenberry8563@reddit

Interesting I didn't know about this. I will watch it, thansk!

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TopBoysenberry8563@reddit

Zoran Đinđić was Prime Minister of Serbia 2001-2003 and president of democratic party. He had great vision for Serbia. Unfortunately he was assassinated.

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It’s hard to say, given that he started tackling the Kosovo problem only in the short time before his death and that’s the reason why there are a lot of (conspiracy) theories that he was killed exactly because of that.

You have to understand that the situation at the time was very different than today. Kumanovo agreement and resolution 1244 were signed just 4 years before his death, and they guaranteed that Kosovo stays within the borders of Serbia, so he probably considered it a low priority topic and a done deal.

But taking everything written above into account, in those last few months he was expressing his fears that Kosovo might proclaim unilateral independence and he tried to work it out diplomatically because he has good relations with the West and NATO. He also had some ideas to implement the “Republika Srpska” model where Kosovo would be basically a country within a country, similar to Republika Srpka and BiH.

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Citaku357@reddit

He also had some ideas to implement the “Republika Srpska” model where Kosovo would be basically a country within a country, similar to Republika Srpka and BiH.

Wait so making Kosovo part of Serbia but with greater autonomy like republika Srpska in BiH?

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theDivic@reddit

Kinda, we have very little recorded material on the topic, because he was killed very soon after he started talking about the topic.

But yes, very wide autonomy, to be honest Republika Srpska is more than “autonomous” given it has parallel institutions, has its own diplomacy and geopolitical views and is part of BiH mostly on paper.

Btw before our Bosnian neighbors start attacking me, I am not saying that I agree with this model or I think it’s the best way to go forward, I’m just stating it as a fact.

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RustCohle_23@reddit

damn, just read about it, makes Bulgarian mafia times look lame.

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MuggedByRealiti@reddit

Đorđe Martinović incident

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Alarmed-Fox1264@reddit

Serbian population and the church of serbia in Montenegro and the Firestorms all over the Montenegrin seacoast as well as the landscape during the hot summers days of 2025.

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JoTenshi@reddit

Not sure…

Maybe the train crash of 28th February 2023 or the wildfires in Attica July 2018..

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CorazonCracker@reddit

The Greek crisis

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JoTenshi@reddit

https://i.redd.it/o6we1i577hif1.gif

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FroyoDeep4416@reddit

For my specific city it has to be the Kumanovo May 9th, 2015 terrorist attack. Ruling party at the time was going through a wiretapping scandal, and people say that it was a setup to make themselves look good and heroic, to distract, the classic

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Kumanovo_clashes

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shortEverything_@reddit

Eh those are some radical left wing rumours. Occam’s razor would suggest global powers trying to remove that government via destabilisation events like that one. Why do you think the body count of the Albanian terrorists reduced over multiple days? Most likely there were western commandos amongst them that also died to avoid identification on the media.

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slavicbrewmaster@reddit

The 2001 Aračinovo/Tetovo attacks

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COOLSICKAWESOME1@reddit

lol

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kokiswhiskey@reddit

The funniest part was when you had to cry to nato to save you

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COOLSICKAWESOME1@reddit

flair up bulgar

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kokiswhiskey@reddit

flair up double headed goat

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slavicbrewmaster@reddit

The funniest part is the evacuation of the terrorists by NATO, lol

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PasicT@reddit

April 1992-December 1995 (extending into 1996 too).

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

What was the other option ? Reject Dayton and fight till the end with no support of nato and get Serbia officially involved ?

Tell me the best case scenario for Bosniaks ? Ethnic cleansing of Serbs in BiH ?

Izetshitovic was a good lap dog, from reject the initial Carrington–Cutileiro peace plan till the end to signing a worse deal in Dayton.

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PasicT@reddit

Reject Dayton definitely, every Serb nationalist should have a picture of Izetbegovic at home.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

And every other ex yu nation from milosevic.

Further war could have lead to a Palestinians like situation for the Bosniaks. He knew the other options unlike you.

Since you didn’t answer my question I guess ur best case scenario was the full expulsion of Bosnian Serbs. Luckily this was prevented.

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PasicT@reddit

The other options wouldn't have led to a Palestinian like situation for Bosniaks, in fact the war was oh so conveniently stopped when Bosniaks had the upper hand. When Croats had the upper hand in their war they weren't stopped.

I have never advocated for the full expulsion of Bosnian Serbs. With that being said, if someone hates the country they live in, they should leave and this applies everywhere. It's not up to the majority to constantly adapt themselves and bend over backwards to accomodate a minority that hates them and that committed a genocide against them.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Fundamentally different situation in Bosnia and Croatia but I am sure you know that. So bad comparison

Bosnia isn’t the nation of Bosniak and I am sure there will be a day you understand that. Bosniaks welcomed every invader on the expenses of their own kind.

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PasicT@reddit

No it's not, it's the same situation: A puppet quasi-state wanting to break away from the country illegally and violently. One was quashed, the other was legalized.

Bosniaks form 60% of the population, without Bosniaks there is no Bosnia. You of course would love that but politics and life are not shaped according to your emotions and feelings, unfortunately for you.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Delusional, but I am sure it will get better with time.

Ask urself how you became a majority through centuries of oppression, during AH time Serbs made the majority of Bosnia. Once again u did bend over for any invader that was crossing the border, Serbs fought historically more for an independent Bosnia as Bosniaks.

Ofc there is, without Bosnian Serbs and Croats there is no Bosnia, since Bosnia is not the nation of Bosniaks.

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PasicT@reddit

Yeah keep telling yourself that listening to the will of the majority is "delusional" when that's how it goes in every other country in the world. What's actually delusional is being required to constantly pander to the sick demands of a loud minority who openly celebrate ethnic cleansing and genocide every chance they get.

Serbs never fought for an independent Bosnia so you can keep your lies to yourself. Serbs never would have accepted ZAVNOBIH to begin with if they knew that it would one day lead to an independent Bosnia.

Saying without Bosnian Serbs and Croats there is no Bosnia is the joke of the century. No, largely because of them there is no normal Bosnia right now since they fought tooth and nail to destroy it 30-35 years ago and that largely remains their only goal to this day. You of course support all of that so quit trying to insult people's intelligence.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

It is, just look to Bosnia and this wont ever change aslong serbs and croats are there, you can live certainly in a fairytale or accept it. Its ur choice. Serbs are no minority in Bosnia how do you get such delusions ? They are equal to Bosniaks and Croats.

Serb majority was reality and documented, this is not controversial. Guess what followed WW1 and WW2 that lead to massive suffering, genocide and systematic oppression of serbs (after 5 centuries of oppression) in BiH, and then you became a majority. We cant award that right ?

Yes and thats why you should be thankful that Serbs and Croats accepted a Bosnia on Titos demand, Serbs and Croats liberated our region, Bosniaks were a non factor in the partisans.

ZAVNOBiH Declaration (1943) : Bosnia and Herzegovina is neither Serbian, nor Croatian, nor Muslim, but all three at once.”

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PasicT@reddit

Serbs and Croats are welcome as long as they love the country and reject toxic ethnic sectarianism and nationalism which unfortunately over 90% of them don't alongside you. Why should Bosniaks continue to put up with 30+ years of spitting and laughing at their war victims, historical revisionism, genocide celebration (or denial) and overall political and ethnic apartheid?

Bosniaks didn't kill or oppress anyone to become a majority and it took several decades for that to happen. The Serb "majority" you are refering to was barely a majority since Serbs never formed more than 43-44% of the population at most so there was always a possibility that they would be overtaken.

Serbs and Croats didn't accept anything, it was Tito who decided. Serbs and Croats initially wanted Bosnia to become a province similar to what Sandzak is today and would have never accepted ZAVNOBIH if they knew it would lead to an independent Bosnia one day.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

apartheid, ok you went full science fiction and Bosniaks are welcomed aslong they dont try to push for centralization. Bosnia is only working as loose federation and high decentralization, else it will collapse on ur peoples expenses.

certainly ww1 and ww2 and the genocide and systematic oppression on Bosnian terriotry played a major role, its quite telling that you try to downplay it. Bosniaks did kill and opress Serbs on behalf of their invader. Eternal victims.

be thankful for it, Tito is the creator of modern Bosnia. You didnt fight for it, it were Serbs and Croats you wanna opress and marginalize today. Keep on dreaming.

People like you are the biggest guarantee that Bosnia won’t move forward. The war is long gone but ur mindset is stuck.

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alpidzonka@reddit

People are mentioning some shocking events that lasted a day, and they're not wrong. But most similar to 9/11 in terms of the heightened patriotism, revanchism and whatnot - I'd say probably if it has to be just one day it's Operation Storm and the refugee columns coming in, but if it can also be several months then the NATO bombing for sure.

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Utturkce249@reddit

Well, i guess 2016 "coup attempt" even tho we still not sure if it was real or theatre.

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kokiswhiskey@reddit

I’m macedonian. We have events like this every couple of years

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Low_qualitie@reddit

Probably the terrorist attack on the Sveta Nedelya church in 1925, to this day it remains one of the deadliest terror attacks in the history of Europe

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kingarturo95@reddit

1998-99 Kosovo war ~ 13.000 casualties, 1 milion evaquated and 90% of infrastucture(which was poor to begin with) destroyed.

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Sudden_Shelter@reddit

Certainly a sad moment for Serbia

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just_for_browse@reddit

what was sad about it

serbia laid the ground for this event intentionally

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Lgkp@reddit

We have too many to count sadly

Thank our Serbian neighbors!

(Inb4 Serbian apologists start brigading this comment)

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Salty-Succotash3338@reddit

School stabbing in Zagreb (2024)

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Commercial_Tough160@reddit

In Lebanon, it was the first civil war. And then the second civil war. And then the Israeli Occupation. And then when the Port of Beirut exploded. And then again for the most recent Israeli terror bombing airstrikes. And the next one will be for the third civil war when Hezbollah refuses to disarm.

Actually, we really don’t have a 9/11. We are just traumatized routinely and consistently to the point where no particular catastrophe stands out. That haunted look in our eyes? That’s just part of living in Beirut.

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lightvad3r@reddit

March 12, 2003

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Sudden_Shelter@reddit

As well as the Kosovo War as many people mentioned :(

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Besrax@reddit

It would have to be the bombing of St. Nedelya church in 1925, which was organized by the communists.

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prettyawesome2know@reddit

Bulgarian 9 11 was actually an inside job o.O

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Petrak1s@reddit

Some believe the US 9/11 was also inside job. There are some facts supporting that.

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dim-mak-ufo@reddit

some? come on, it's common knowledge

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Petrak1s@reddit

Of course, I didn't want to be accused in believing in conspiracy theories..

However, there is interesting movie called "In Plane Sight", made by one small TV station in the US. Great to watch. :)

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dim-mak-ufo@reddit

It's funny how people prefer to just to not talk their truth because they are feared to be accused of 'believing in conspiracy theories'.

You can see there are already people here that watch us and downvote anything that goes away from 'normal thinking' so why should we care?

After all, the term 'conspiracy theory' was coined by the CIA to demonize people like you and me :) and unfortunately, it works.

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PVanchurov@reddit

And the US one obviously wasn't, wink wink.

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Slkotova@reddit

Collaboration with the soviets.

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RegionSignificant977@reddit

Not exactly. Comintern/USSR job.

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shadowminds97@reddit

Wow, I didn’t know about this incident. Something somewhat similar happened in Romania in 1921 - the Bolgrad Palace bombing, in a town that was part of Romania at the time but is now in Ukraine.

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RedditStrider@reddit

Probably the Hatay Earthquake that took lives in tens of thousands.

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Sougamoto_Magazaki@reddit

The 2007 Forest Fires in Greece

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matterforward@reddit

I’ve written some kind of response and deleted it 10 times because I don’t have the words to explain how I feel. Essentially for me it boils down to we have some big events that encapsulate what we went through and who we are now and to one another but my village 9/11 is the worst thing for me while my people had a different experience based off where they were. We don’t have a country wide one because the war consumed all. While these many events made us what we are, in our little worlds they were everything and still are. While something like Srebrenica and Sarajevo are important and make us cry and band together, I was not in either of those places and they are not the event for me.

Sad Bosnian time aside and what we are known for history wise? Gavrilo and that bitch duke obviously

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Endleofon@reddit

For Turkey, it is the coup attempt in 15 July 2016.

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-who_am-i_@reddit

The one Erdogan staged?

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Endleofon@reddit

I dislike Erdoğan, but he didn’t stage it.

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basedfinger@reddit

exactly

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basedfinger@reddit

so.. he staged it?

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Dizzy_Arachnid4292@reddit

Fall of Vukovar in 1991 probably, the biggest non-wartime tragedy would be Kornati imo

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Future_Start_2408@reddit

The annexation of Bessarabia in June 1940.

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Citaku357@reddit

That's not a terrorist attack though

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prettyawesome2know@reddit

Is this a part of Moldova now?

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sabzeta@reddit

Moldova yes. And some of it is in Ukraine

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geofrys@reddit

Colectiv

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Mokomo_Titipuru@reddit

I would say its too far away, we could perhaps equivalate that to Pearl Harbor. Regarding more recent events I would list the revolution, the mineriade and the colectiv club fire. Perhaps also the events from 10th august albeit there were no deaths.

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lelebato@reddit

The closest to terrorist attacks we had was the school shooting in May 2023 and the mass shooting the day later

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mrnks13@reddit

1453, duh.

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klevis99@reddit

The fall of the pyramid schemes and subsequent civil unrest/anarchy in 1997.

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DarkSeid1912@reddit

Probably the explosion in Gërdec in 15 march 2015

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klevis99@reddit

*2008

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H_nography@reddit

April 2007

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RedLemonSlice@reddit

11-ти Септември.
We use the proper calendar format (DD.MM.YYYY)

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eferalgan@reddit

Too bad if you use Cyrillic. Nobody can understand

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H_nography@reddit

Except you know, the people that do understand it. Which is not you.

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prodigioustimekiller@reddit

Other than what others mentioned, a strong moment that today people remember quite vividly is the Kastelorizo speech by the then Prime Minister Giorgos Papandreou in 23 of April 2010, which effectively signaled our entry in the IMF and the first Memorandum and the economic and social tragedy that marked our political system ever since. It is widely considered by many people as political treason ever since.

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Vivid_Barracuda_@reddit

COVID, Earths one. Now you wanna buy chewing gum? You need to get to some 3FA-4FA app on your phone, NFC, wifi, bluetooth enabled. LOL.

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shadowminds97@reddit

Colectiv nightclub fire (Romania)

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eferalgan@reddit

Not at all

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Qimthipishkashit@reddit

gërdec 2008 i think

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LabriJe@reddit

Mart 2004 Kosovo, dosije Žuta kuća i OVK terorizam

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Sheb1995@reddit

As in like a national tragedy?

18/19th November- anniversary of the fall of Vukovar and the massacres in Škabrnja and Ovčara, some of the largest war crimes committed during the Croatian War of Independence.

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Not a 9/11 but 1462 will forever be the date we fell to the Ottomans who, indirectly, contributed to the spiteful and backwards mentality that provoked these wars events.