The tax burden of benefits extended to those below the poverty line is less than the tax burden of subsidies and tax cuts for the rich.
The middle class is getting fucked but it’s not poor people fucking us.
Poor people not being obese leads to an indirect reduction in public health spending as well long term, not that they care about waiting long term to gut medicaid it seems
I agree that less junk food would have a positive net outcome but I disagree that it’s the government’s job to force that outcome through these means. It’s an overreach imo
The government telling people on SNAP they’re going to have to get type II diabetes on their own dime is one of the better things this administration has done has done
See: facts don’t care about your feelings. He doesn’t have the official authority to do what he’s doing. But it’s nice to see that citizens like you are granting federal govt. extra power because you agree with him emotionally.
Let’s consider your original comment before you edited it, “I don’t really care who does it lmao.” We know, because you’re obviously more emotional than logic-leaning. The “who” is pretty important when considering political power dynamics. You’d be better off if you took more educated stances.
Since you’re changing your stance on a dime let’s argue on it anyways. Congress should be the one to amend Food and Nutrition Act. Trump and his MAHA admin, is using a loophole of state demonstration projects to approve and deny new waivers to individual states. It’s still federal funding, and SHOULD be approved by congress.
But conservatives don’t care about the balance of federal power if their boy has it.
Did you read 2? The waivers are a way to get around actually going through congress to amend federal funding in the program.
I should probably mention I agree with the changes. Anti-junk isn’t a partisan issue. Remember Michelle Obama school lunch campaign?
This issue is going around congress to change rules around federal funding through the executive branch. That’s the point I’m making. Your response was “I don’t care because it’s the changes I like.” I consider that a problem (despite myself also wishing America was healthier). That’s the only point I am making.
I think you’re misunderstanding what federal vs state money is, and why congress holds the power to allocate federal money and not the president.
(Hint: one of the two is a collective room of representatives of each state agreeing on how to allocate federal money, and the other is a single person who represents only the federal govt.)
I’ve yet to see you explain how states seeking these waivers is effective the federal budget. If you’re talking about the BBB that’s an entirely separate issue to these waivers
The federal govt.passed a bill in 2008 that established SNAP and EBT. They passed it without restrictions on food items. They allowed for experimental waiver applications by states to run essentially tests on how to improve SNAP.
What you’re seeing now is abuse of that clause, with USDA under current admin misusing these waivers to essentially pass nationwide policy amendments for SNAP without having to amend the bill via congress.
I feel like I’ve explained this 10x and you’re not understanding. What you’re viewing as states gaining getting power, is really just the federal administration shortcutting past state representatives (congress) to pass policy that aligns with his admin.
Ya they aren’t welcoming of this change on the foodstamps sub but I’m all for it, it’s like EBT was setup to cater to parents who would rather put very little effort into their children’s diet and just buying snacks and bullshit to give them instead of taking time to portion out whole foods. It’s literally cheaper and healthier in the long run to buy real food. The argument I saw was it’s discriminatory to people that don’t have access or space to cook/prepare meals but I think that’s silly just perpetuates this the idea that low income should coincide with shitty liftyle habits.
Yeah, because the SC and Congress held him accountable. Cannot forgive even part of student debt but just write that drug prices must come down and homeless people should disappear. Totally something to do via executive order, same goes for tariffs
Only the ones who don't feel a single shred of shame for being told to put down the box of Reese's at the register, which to be fair seems to be about 50% of them
Dollar down 12% since January, drop in US credit rating, exploding budget deficit, and antagonistic trade policy don’t bode well for stability and growth.
I’m not saying it’s definitely going to happen but economic policy seems to be increasing the risk of it happening without any sort of benefit to be realized by the average person.
Oh, are we doing currency manipulation with the global reserve currency now?
And weaker dollar would be alright for exports, in a vacuum. But many exporters still have to import raw materials so it would balance out. But with tariffs on top of a worsening exchange rate it doesn’t seem to be balancing out there either.
Tell you what though, the trade policy is fantastic if you know when the tariffs will come and go and make your positions ahead of the market
Why should there be Amazon employees on food stamps while bezos has more money than god?
Do you enjoy some of your taxes going to pay to put food on his employees tables while he’s taking all the money he’s not paying them to buy a new mega yacht?
EBT is the only explanation for why suddenly a bag of Doritos costs $9 while the organic hippie brands costs $4. Those prices used to be reversed. Biden's handlers must have went crazy with spending limits while no one was looking.
I don't even see how EBT can buy normal healthy food now. You can't roll up to a farmers market and swipe your card on some celery, carrots, onions, garlic and potatoes, can you?
wtf? Chicken, butter, eggs, rice and milk, garlic, plain greek yogurt, berries, and spices. If you are poor, this is what you eat when you are poor. I am not, and still eat this.
This is essentially my diet + lean beef + turkey + bread
Obviously more cost effective than this image but my grocery bills are still retarded. I think pointing at the person and calling them fat + poor still ignores the problem of grocery unaffordability
beef, fish and store bought bread are significantly more expensive than chicken and rice. I said nothing about anyone being fat, its about caloric richness for cost.
I wasn’t using beef as a hill for poor people to die on. I was sharing that my diet has crossover with what you suggested, and I can tell you they’re still expensive
Rice and chicken isn’t a holistic diet. It’s survival. But the original point of the SNAP changes are to be healthy. Wouldn’t that imply a healthy holistic ingredients diet is affordable? (It isn’t)
Specifying store bought bread is odd. You gotta bake your own bread if you’re poor? Cmon lol
Shut the fuck up. You think calling people poor is cool or something? Just cuz you aren't doesn't mean others aren't. I get to enjoy a nice cushy life, but that doesn't mean others can.
An air fryer has been a game changer for me. Just buy the raw premarinaded stuff from the supermarket, bang it in the air fryer, push some buttons, jerk off or something while it cooks.
I can chuck something in the air fryer and chop up a salad/steamed veggies in less time that it takes me to pick something on uber eats and it's fresh and ready to go in less time than uber eats arrives and costs less than half the price.
Indeed, if rule one would is "buy unprocessed stuff", rule two would be "learn to cook", but that's beyond thinking of fancy, elaborate dishes. An oven and a pot are your best friend. You can make a shit load of stuff in one sitting, and sometimes it's as easy as dumping 4 or 5 ingredients with very little prep. It's that simple really.
Cooking ain't hard, it's mostly "do you have the ingredients and the tools for the job": lasagna for example is super easy to make, the result is great and the investment isn't that high. Baked meals are easy: potatoes and many vegetables go well together to be roasted in the oven for an hour. Throw a chunk of meat in a pot and get yourself a tasty stew. You get a hefty meal for very little effort, and bonus points for eating cleaner food. It's certainly fun to eat pizza and stuff all the time, but it's one of the biggest scam ever. You can make your favorite delivery meals at home for cheaper and yet bigger amounts and cut the awful stuff (extra butter, too much oil etc).
You just need to try the recipes to get it right, it's not complicated.
cooking well enough for others is hard. cooking to not starve is easy. bag of veggies. bowl of rice. heat some meat. and look at that some decent food.
Honestly even cooking well enough for others is pretty easy most of the time. Friends and family aren't about to put you on blast for not making Michelin star dinner.
Oh yes, definitely. Personnally I go out of my way to make something fancy nice when I get people over, it's an occasion. But on otherwise I just mind the quantities to get enough protein and calories. That's about it. I used to eat one meal a day at some point, helped me maintain weight and keep things simple, but now I've been working out for a couple months, so I have to be a bit more invested about what I cook on the daily. Adds a bit of mental load but the rewards are worth the effort. There's a bit of "throw this and that to feed yourself" going, but I've been experimenting and implementing worthwhile foods like avocado, liver etc.
Cheapest brand possible is iffy depending on where you live.
When I was in the US recently I made the mistake of picking the cheapest option and it was disgusting. it's like there is no minimum standard, if you pick the cheapest thing it gets to the level of dog food.
In the EU, go ahead, there are standards and the cheapest brand is often just repackaging with a couple ingredients replaced.
I'm pretty sure the stuff I ate in the US are illegal to sell on the other side of the ocean.
Yes it’s a choice that costs the American taxpayer even more money down the road
I’m also not sure why you think more calories = good when those calories have zero nutritional value and when the average American needs to eat less calories not more
I know how to cook and am decent at it but cooking for yourself just fucking sucks man. I just finished meal prepping for the week and it took me like 4 hours between the grocery store, cooking, and cleaning up. I buy takeout at lunch every day at work (healthy stuff like chipotle) because if I had to make all my lunches too I’d blow my goddamn head off
I spend like 5 minutes a day prepping meals. Shopping once a week is like 2 hours, most of which is driving there and back because I live remote.
You need to make stuff that requires less effort, all my meals are pretty basic and set and forget. Chuck something in the air fryer, a couple minutes chopping vegetables, set an alarm and walk away.
Another tip of you prep for the week is to make far in excess for what you need and then put it in ziplock bags and flatten and freeze it. Make something different the next week and so on before long you've got a variety of different meals to choose from and can even take a week off or whatever.
Generally I don't prep for the week though I just make it as I need it and the stuff I make doesn't require a heap of work.
Yea I mean if all I ever wanted to eat was chicken rice and broccoli that would be easy, but I just get so bored doing that. I unfortunately live close to about a dozen very good restaurants all within a 5 minute walk so that shit is always tempting me
I mean yeah it would but there's tonnes of other options that are as easy as putting the ingredients in a pot or something and walking away. Chilli con carne, stew, curry, roast. Pick up some different vegetables and have chicken rice and, I dunno, asparagus and string beans. Put some different sauce in it, soy sauce, sweet chilli, curry, Bolognese. Expand your repertoire. And occasionally treat yourself to something that requires effort when you feel like putting the effort in.
Admittedly I started getting way better at it because I didn't have a choice but I wouldn't go back given the option now.
When my wife and I were reallyyyyyyy grinding to get out of debt so we could buy a house, we spent our Saturday mornings grocery shopping. We went to 3-4 different stores for various items. Such as CVS for toiletries, TJ’s for dinner stuff, and sprouts for veggies. We actually had it down to a science what was cheapest where. My wife also became a massive couponer/deal hustler. Now adays so many coupons are digits, you don’t have to walk around with a Pokémon card style case.
We also cooked all our meals and deleted doordash/uber eats/ and other such things. Ontop of eating better and cleaner, which made us feel better - we also saved a fuck ton of money. We own a house now, which I don’t want to say is because we grocery shopped smartly, but little money = big money eventually.
Honestly, I’m grateful for that period in my life(few years ago at this point). It really taught me the value of the dollar and instilled some great financial discipline for me.
Shop at Aldi for certain things. If you live in a civilized part of America and you have a Hispanic or Asian grocery, hit them up for produce and possibly meat (depends though).
Yeah, because you know what makes being poor even better, eating the same exact meal every day. That will really make you want to be a functioning person in society, knowing that the only way you'll succeed is if you give up food you like.
Yeah like how they teach kids how to add and subtract and calculate compound interest yet we have a generation of adult children whining that they didn't know they had to pay back their student loans or that making the minimum payment on them would make them take forever to pay off.
Yes, it is. Most Americans won't acknowledge it, but a large bag of chips is maybe $3. A packet of 2lb ground beef can be around $15. Most people here live with their parents, so they don't know the cost of things
Most of the "healthy food" in America is even worse on top of being expensive. Why do you think that the EU and a good portion of the world doesn't import meat and eggs and vegetables from here. On tof this, the people this would affect can't afford to buy to think about
i just went to aldis and got food for a week. 32$. i even splurged a little. honestly though the chicken breast are pretty big so may be 2 weeks of food. how are people so bad at shopping?
OP, are you the one who tried posting this shit last week and then everyone called it out because there were Jaffa Cakes and other britbong slop in there?
Take out all the sweets and sugar. Remove the protein bars and other ready made garbage. Add about 6 boxes of pasta (any shape), a few 6 or 12 packs of ramen, small bag of rice, some veggies(include a small bag of lemons), a dozen eggs and lean meat.
Your bill will be the same or cheaper.
The solution to adding veggies when you can't cook for shit is to roast them in the oven. Put them in an oven safe pan, drizzle them with lemon juice/salt/pepper, pull them out before they start to lose all their juiciness. Zuchini are phenomenal for this and i highly suggest this as Robots first home cooked veggie. Add a starch (pasta or rice or ramen), add a small cut of meat or an egg. Do this and you'll be eating so much better than the fatty who buys pre-made shit and expensive white person mocchi.
Get a pork shoulder and roast it on Sunday and the pulled pork will easily last until Friday, you can just drop it straight in the ramen after the egg cooks
WTF is this premium luxury junk food? Hazelnut cookies? Mochi Ice Cream? Broccoli Bites? Organic Spring Mix?
You're buying "Spoiled Karen with a $120k Salesman Husband" snacks. It's supposed to cost $63, that's how the stores make extra money from rich people who don't budget. I assume you bought the fancy organic name brands deliberately to enable this as rage bait, because if you were trying you could get near identical stuff for half the price or less.
Yeah of course, if you’re a big fat idiot and only buy fully processed, name brand food, it’s expensive. Learn to cook from scratch really well, and your life will be 10x easier. You’ll save money, eat way better tasting food, and you’ll be way healthier than pretty much any other alternative. Buying protein bars and individually wrapped frozen burritos and then complaining about the bill is tiny brain energy.
And even if you can’t cook, rice and beans and veggies have barely increased in price the last 10 years. Recession-proof your diet and live forever, fatties. Almost everyone I know who complains about food prices 75+ lbs overweight and absolutely dumb as hell.
If you can't make $60 last you several weeks, that's on you. Rice and beans, PB&J, potatoes, and some spices might not be glamorous, but they'll last you a long ass time if you spend wisely.
It would be a lot clearer if the picture was overlaid with each item's prices. Some of the items are clearly below a dollar each, but others are store made or ultra processed so are pricey.
Name62@reddit
Anons can't shop for shit list
Reference - Walmart & Publix for ground chuck, all prices in USD in Florida
(Meal - plain with butter/with meat sauce or Alfredo) each $1.66-$8.60 - 5x box's of barilla pasta/Spaghetti (14-15 meals or more possible)
(Part of Meal)$2.98-$5.96 - 2x Bertolli Classic Alfredo sauce
(Part of Meal on pasta or chilli)$2.98-$8.94 3x Bertolli Pasta Sauce Five Cheese
(Seasoning/Part of meals) $4.96- Land O Lakes Unsalted Butter, 4 Sticks
(Meal -chilli/meat sauce)Publix ground chuck $6.63 an lb (4.30 lb's) (total $28.11) (if used with pasta 15 or more meals)
(Snack) $3.98 - Marketside Blueberry & Banana Nut Muffin Variety pack (4 pack) or (8 cut in half snacks)
(Snack) $2.39 Marketside Fresh Organic Bananas, Bunch (6 banana's) (if cut in half 12 snacks possible)
(Snack) $5.36 - Oreo Frozen Dairy Dessert Bars, (5 Count)
Grand total $73.08 with (15 snacks) to eat & (20+ meals to eat)
And this was just me doing basic searching without couponing or even sales matching in different place
Boomah422@reddit
OP buys a bunch of prepared, ready to eat food, then complains about why its so expensive
Chadzuma@reddit
Apparently they're making junk food ineligible for EBT, pretty based
truenorthinternist@reddit
Societal leeches and parasites in shambles too
youngnacho@reddit
The tax burden of benefits extended to those below the poverty line is less than the tax burden of subsidies and tax cuts for the rich. The middle class is getting fucked but it’s not poor people fucking us.
Chadzuma@reddit
Poor people not being obese leads to an indirect reduction in public health spending as well long term, not that they care about waiting long term to gut medicaid it seems
youngnacho@reddit
I agree that less junk food would have a positive net outcome but I disagree that it’s the government’s job to force that outcome through these means. It’s an overreach imo
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
It’s the government’s money why can’t they spend it on what they want
youngnacho@reddit
Constitution says Congress decides where and how money is spent, not the executive branch doing whatever they want through executive order.
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
See point B
youngnacho@reddit
Until congress gets together and codifies point A, point B is irrelevant.
Just because the government is doing fuck shit you agree with doesn’t mean it’s not doing fuck shit.
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
The government telling people on SNAP they’re going to have to get type II diabetes on their own dime is one of the better things this administration has done has done
GelekW@reddit
See: facts don’t care about your feelings. He doesn’t have the official authority to do what he’s doing. But it’s nice to see that citizens like you are granting federal govt. extra power because you agree with him emotionally.
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
I don’t really care who does it lmao
GelekW@reddit
Let’s consider your original comment before you edited it, “I don’t really care who does it lmao.” We know, because you’re obviously more emotional than logic-leaning. The “who” is pretty important when considering political power dynamics. You’d be better off if you took more educated stances.
Since you’re changing your stance on a dime let’s argue on it anyways. Congress should be the one to amend Food and Nutrition Act. Trump and his MAHA admin, is using a loophole of state demonstration projects to approve and deny new waivers to individual states. It’s still federal funding, and SHOULD be approved by congress.
But conservatives don’t care about the balance of federal power if their boy has it.
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
If you’re going to be smug at least be right
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/waivers/foodrestriction#:~:text=Restricts%20purchase%20of%20soda%2C%20fruit%20and%20vegetable,drinks%2C%20and%20candy.%20Contact%20the%20state%20agency.
Individual states are filing waivers with the USDA and these measures have nothing to do with federal policies.
GelekW@reddit
Did you read 2? The waivers are a way to get around actually going through congress to amend federal funding in the program.
I should probably mention I agree with the changes. Anti-junk isn’t a partisan issue. Remember Michelle Obama school lunch campaign?
This issue is going around congress to change rules around federal funding through the executive branch. That’s the point I’m making. Your response was “I don’t care because it’s the changes I like.” I consider that a problem (despite myself also wishing America was healthier). That’s the only point I am making.
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
Ah yes, the republican stronghold of Colorado
GelekW@reddit
I think you’re misunderstanding what federal vs state money is, and why congress holds the power to allocate federal money and not the president.
(Hint: one of the two is a collective room of representatives of each state agreeing on how to allocate federal money, and the other is a single person who represents only the federal govt.)
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
I’ve yet to see you explain how states seeking these waivers is effective the federal budget. If you’re talking about the BBB that’s an entirely separate issue to these waivers
GelekW@reddit
The federal govt.passed a bill in 2008 that established SNAP and EBT. They passed it without restrictions on food items. They allowed for experimental waiver applications by states to run essentially tests on how to improve SNAP.
What you’re seeing now is abuse of that clause, with USDA under current admin misusing these waivers to essentially pass nationwide policy amendments for SNAP without having to amend the bill via congress.
I feel like I’ve explained this 10x and you’re not understanding. What you’re viewing as states gaining getting power, is really just the federal administration shortcutting past state representatives (congress) to pass policy that aligns with his admin.
Eryomama@reddit
Ya they aren’t welcoming of this change on the foodstamps sub but I’m all for it, it’s like EBT was setup to cater to parents who would rather put very little effort into their children’s diet and just buying snacks and bullshit to give them instead of taking time to portion out whole foods. It’s literally cheaper and healthier in the long run to buy real food. The argument I saw was it’s discriminatory to people that don’t have access or space to cook/prepare meals but I think that’s silly just perpetuates this the idea that low income should coincide with shitty liftyle habits.
DrKoofBratomMD@reddit
I bet you weren’t this vocal about executive order abuse when it was Biden abusing them
nigl_@reddit
Yeah, because the SC and Congress held him accountable. Cannot forgive even part of student debt but just write that drug prices must come down and homeless people should disappear. Totally something to do via executive order, same goes for tariffs
youngnacho@reddit
You mean the ones that got shot down so he backed off or reworked within the bounds of the law?
tacetmusic@reddit
It's very funny watching people retcon economic failings and explicit broken campaign promises into intentional health drives.
bunker_man@reddit
They are still going to be obese though. They will just juggle around which money they use for what.
Chadzuma@reddit
Only the ones who don't feel a single shred of shame for being told to put down the box of Reese's at the register, which to be fair seems to be about 50% of them
horiami@reddit
you have to start somewhere
youngnacho@reddit
Maybe not fucking over everyone except major donors with tariffs and setting up a fully self inflicted depression would’ve been a better start
BraveSquirrel@reddit
what depression? Or are you saying we just need to wait two more weeks, and the depression will start any day now? Trust me bro
youngnacho@reddit
Dollar down 12% since January, drop in US credit rating, exploding budget deficit, and antagonistic trade policy don’t bode well for stability and growth.
I’m not saying it’s definitely going to happen but economic policy seems to be increasing the risk of it happening without any sort of benefit to be realized by the average person.
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
The dollar being down is great for exporters (which is the entire point) and has nothing to do with a depression
youngnacho@reddit
Oh, are we doing currency manipulation with the global reserve currency now?
And weaker dollar would be alright for exports, in a vacuum. But many exporters still have to import raw materials so it would balance out. But with tariffs on top of a worsening exchange rate it doesn’t seem to be balancing out there either.
Tell you what though, the trade policy is fantastic if you know when the tariffs will come and go and make your positions ahead of the market
KOCEnjoyer@reddit
I’ll preface with I don’t support orange man, but I’m not seeing a depression…
ballsackcancer@reddit
Wjat makes you think the middle class deserves that money. The upper class already bears the vast majority of the tax burden.
youngnacho@reddit
Why should there be Amazon employees on food stamps while bezos has more money than god?
Do you enjoy some of your taxes going to pay to put food on his employees tables while he’s taking all the money he’s not paying them to buy a new mega yacht?
Shatophiliac@reddit
I mean, it’s both, but you’re right in that the poors aren’t doing the majority of the fucking.
BraveSquirrel@reddit
rich people aren't subsidized wtf are you talking about, they pay basically all of the taxes lol
uberchicken@reddit
Shhhh you're supposed to hate people worse off than you
youngnacho@reddit
Yes yes my bad. I can’t stand that dirty scum taking up the money we should be sending to Israel >:(
Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit
How much these cost 1 year ago? 20$? Or same and op is r*tarded
DarkScorpion48@reddit
What do billionaires have to do with it?
SpringwoodOhio1428@reddit
Very cool that poor people are being told not to eat the cheapest food items. What even constitutes junk food anyways?
Chadzuma@reddit
Probably most of the shit you shovel into your retarded face on a routine basis if your defensiveness is anything to go by
Beginning_Stay_9263@reddit
EBT is the only explanation for why suddenly a bag of Doritos costs $9 while the organic hippie brands costs $4. Those prices used to be reversed. Biden's handlers must have went crazy with spending limits while no one was looking.
cry_w@reddit
What would they consider "junk food" precisely? This feels like something that won't be applied well at all.
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
I don't even see how EBT can buy normal healthy food now. You can't roll up to a farmers market and swipe your card on some celery, carrots, onions, garlic and potatoes, can you?
Finna_Otter_91@reddit
In my state, you can. you can use EBT to get vouchers to give farmers.
Jumugen@reddit
Now if they only fixed school lunches as well
nuked24@reddit
Dollar degenerate in shambles
letoiv@reddit
Heaven forbid that they tear up their own lettuce to save some money
snrup1@reddit
What? Cake pops are obviously part of a healthy diet for an adult on a budget.
dom_optimus_maximus@reddit
wtf? Chicken, butter, eggs, rice and milk, garlic, plain greek yogurt, berries, and spices. If you are poor, this is what you eat when you are poor. I am not, and still eat this.
GelekW@reddit
This is essentially my diet + lean beef + turkey + bread
Obviously more cost effective than this image but my grocery bills are still retarded. I think pointing at the person and calling them fat + poor still ignores the problem of grocery unaffordability
dom_optimus_maximus@reddit
beef, fish and store bought bread are significantly more expensive than chicken and rice. I said nothing about anyone being fat, its about caloric richness for cost.
GelekW@reddit
I wasn’t using beef as a hill for poor people to die on. I was sharing that my diet has crossover with what you suggested, and I can tell you they’re still expensive
Rice and chicken isn’t a holistic diet. It’s survival. But the original point of the SNAP changes are to be healthy. Wouldn’t that imply a healthy holistic ingredients diet is affordable? (It isn’t)
Specifying store bought bread is odd. You gotta bake your own bread if you’re poor? Cmon lol
ballsackcancer@reddit
Chicken is too much if you're poor. Should be beans or lentils instead.
Black_Diammond@reddit
You need to be a special kind of poor to be too poor for chicken. Like, africa poor.
Practical_Trade4084@reddit
In all seriousness, if you're having trouble eating on a budget
Affectionate_Fan3017@reddit
You poors are so cute with the little 'time = money' tips 🤣
xxHikari@reddit
Shut the fuck up. You think calling people poor is cool or something? Just cuz you aren't doesn't mean others aren't. I get to enjoy a nice cushy life, but that doesn't mean others can.
pVom@reddit
An air fryer has been a game changer for me. Just buy the raw premarinaded stuff from the supermarket, bang it in the air fryer, push some buttons, jerk off or something while it cooks.
I can chuck something in the air fryer and chop up a salad/steamed veggies in less time that it takes me to pick something on uber eats and it's fresh and ready to go in less time than uber eats arrives and costs less than half the price.
CuTTyFL4M@reddit
Indeed, if rule one would is "buy unprocessed stuff", rule two would be "learn to cook", but that's beyond thinking of fancy, elaborate dishes. An oven and a pot are your best friend. You can make a shit load of stuff in one sitting, and sometimes it's as easy as dumping 4 or 5 ingredients with very little prep. It's that simple really.
Cooking ain't hard, it's mostly "do you have the ingredients and the tools for the job": lasagna for example is super easy to make, the result is great and the investment isn't that high. Baked meals are easy: potatoes and many vegetables go well together to be roasted in the oven for an hour. Throw a chunk of meat in a pot and get yourself a tasty stew. You get a hefty meal for very little effort, and bonus points for eating cleaner food. It's certainly fun to eat pizza and stuff all the time, but it's one of the biggest scam ever. You can make your favorite delivery meals at home for cheaper and yet bigger amounts and cut the awful stuff (extra butter, too much oil etc).
You just need to try the recipes to get it right, it's not complicated.
greedybanker3@reddit
cooking well enough for others is hard. cooking to not starve is easy. bag of veggies. bowl of rice. heat some meat. and look at that some decent food.
SouthernMainland@reddit
Honestly even cooking well enough for others is pretty easy most of the time. Friends and family aren't about to put you on blast for not making Michelin star dinner.
CuTTyFL4M@reddit
Oh yes, definitely. Personnally I go out of my way to make something fancy nice when I get people over, it's an occasion. But on otherwise I just mind the quantities to get enough protein and calories. That's about it. I used to eat one meal a day at some point, helped me maintain weight and keep things simple, but now I've been working out for a couple months, so I have to be a bit more invested about what I cook on the daily. Adds a bit of mental load but the rewards are worth the effort. There's a bit of "throw this and that to feed yourself" going, but I've been experimenting and implementing worthwhile foods like avocado, liver etc.
greedybanker3@reddit
airfryer has been a godsend for me. it can do everything. so easy and quick too.
MannerShark@reddit
Cheapest brand possible is iffy depending on where you live. When I was in the US recently I made the mistake of picking the cheapest option and it was disgusting. it's like there is no minimum standard, if you pick the cheapest thing it gets to the level of dog food. In the EU, go ahead, there are standards and the cheapest brand is often just repackaging with a couple ingredients replaced. I'm pretty sure the stuff I ate in the US are illegal to sell on the other side of the ocean.
Practical_Trade4084@reddit
Yes, very true. america is just a business, no care.
BakeParty5648@reddit
You definitely get more calories per dollar from processed foods
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
Doesn’t matter bc you’ll be hungry again in an hour when everything you eat has zero nutritional value
BakeParty5648@reddit
It matter's if your struggling to put food on the table
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
If you’re struggling to put food on the table buying a case of Mountain Dew isn’t going to help
BakeParty5648@reddit
Chicken nuggets dummy
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
You can buy actually chicken breasts for a dollar or two more…
BakeParty5648@reddit
More expensive you say?
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
I’m sure you can find a dollar in your couch cushions
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
Yes it’s a choice that costs the American taxpayer even more money down the road
I’m also not sure why you think more calories = good when those calories have zero nutritional value and when the average American needs to eat less calories not more
BakeParty5648@reddit
This isn't about me. Ultra processed foods provide more calories on the dollar than whole foods. When youre broke and hungry it matters.
bobqjones@reddit
Health care costs will totally offset that long term.
BakeParty5648@reddit
It's expensive to be poor
Pristine-Donkey4698@reddit
Oh yes meal prepping. I'd rather kill myself then eat the same thing for lunch and dinner every day
CaptainKickAss3@reddit
So make 2 different meals then lol
ooahupthera@reddit
Then cook multiple things, retard.
Kireba2@reddit
You can prep multiple things at once. Shot if you have a freezer, you can reallly make a lot of different mealpreps and just throw them in there.
Throwawayroper@reddit
and if you're STILL having trouble eating on a budget
Captain_Creature@reddit
Sounds terrible tbh
ouiouisurmoi@reddit
Honestly the #1 thing is learn to cook. If you can't make something that tastes good then just ask your mom for more dino nuggies.
iiTryhard@reddit
I know how to cook and am decent at it but cooking for yourself just fucking sucks man. I just finished meal prepping for the week and it took me like 4 hours between the grocery store, cooking, and cleaning up. I buy takeout at lunch every day at work (healthy stuff like chipotle) because if I had to make all my lunches too I’d blow my goddamn head off
smeely7t63@reddit
Wtf did you meal prep for?
iiTryhard@reddit
Dinner you fool
smeely7t63@reddit
Can't you just cook dinner like a normal adult?
IrregularrAF@reddit
If you're lazy like me, you just steam vegetables and eat eggs constantly.
oby100@reddit
Second lunch. He’s a big boy, ok?
pVom@reddit
I spend like 5 minutes a day prepping meals. Shopping once a week is like 2 hours, most of which is driving there and back because I live remote.
You need to make stuff that requires less effort, all my meals are pretty basic and set and forget. Chuck something in the air fryer, a couple minutes chopping vegetables, set an alarm and walk away.
Another tip of you prep for the week is to make far in excess for what you need and then put it in ziplock bags and flatten and freeze it. Make something different the next week and so on before long you've got a variety of different meals to choose from and can even take a week off or whatever.
Generally I don't prep for the week though I just make it as I need it and the stuff I make doesn't require a heap of work.
iiTryhard@reddit
Yea I mean if all I ever wanted to eat was chicken rice and broccoli that would be easy, but I just get so bored doing that. I unfortunately live close to about a dozen very good restaurants all within a 5 minute walk so that shit is always tempting me
pVom@reddit
I mean yeah it would but there's tonnes of other options that are as easy as putting the ingredients in a pot or something and walking away. Chilli con carne, stew, curry, roast. Pick up some different vegetables and have chicken rice and, I dunno, asparagus and string beans. Put some different sauce in it, soy sauce, sweet chilli, curry, Bolognese. Expand your repertoire. And occasionally treat yourself to something that requires effort when you feel like putting the effort in.
Admittedly I started getting way better at it because I didn't have a choice but I wouldn't go back given the option now.
ouiouisurmoi@reddit
But that Chipotle right there is was kills peoples' budgets. $12 x 5 (ish) work days x 4 weeks is $240 just for lunch each month.
Worth it if you can afford it though, don't want you to Kurt Nobrain yourself.
iiTryhard@reddit
Yea I mean I have the money for it, I know that it’s kind of dumb but we all have to find things that make life more tolerable right
Captain_Creature@reddit
Cooking takes time, and time is money
pVom@reddit
Make easy food and it takes less time than getting take out.
Captain_Creature@reddit
I just dont eat, gotta keep the grind alive til i aint
IrregularrAF@reddit
Aldi best bang for your buck. Still, food is relatively expensive right now.
Samoman21@reddit
No alcohol??? This really is the worst timeline
McWeaksauce91@reddit
When my wife and I were reallyyyyyyy grinding to get out of debt so we could buy a house, we spent our Saturday mornings grocery shopping. We went to 3-4 different stores for various items. Such as CVS for toiletries, TJ’s for dinner stuff, and sprouts for veggies. We actually had it down to a science what was cheapest where. My wife also became a massive couponer/deal hustler. Now adays so many coupons are digits, you don’t have to walk around with a Pokémon card style case.
We also cooked all our meals and deleted doordash/uber eats/ and other such things. Ontop of eating better and cleaner, which made us feel better - we also saved a fuck ton of money. We own a house now, which I don’t want to say is because we grocery shopped smartly, but little money = big money eventually.
Honestly, I’m grateful for that period in my life(few years ago at this point). It really taught me the value of the dollar and instilled some great financial discipline for me.
Practical_Trade4084@reddit
Kudos to you, this is the way.
cry_w@reddit
I do recommend that last one. Admittedly, I've never been a drinker, but going off of soda was actually a really good idea. I don't miss it.
digableplanet@reddit
Shop at Aldi for certain things. If you live in a civilized part of America and you have a Hispanic or Asian grocery, hit them up for produce and possibly meat (depends though).
Narcissus_the@reddit
This is Aldis, I can recognize their brand
ExpandoD0ng@reddit
He certainly eats like an american
burgonies@reddit
No way they spent that much at Aldi
Sreston@reddit
Could’ve bought 10 lbs of chicken and rice
SpringwoodOhio1428@reddit
Yeah, because you know what makes being poor even better, eating the same exact meal every day. That will really make you want to be a functioning person in society, knowing that the only way you'll succeed is if you give up food you like.
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
10 lbs of various meats, veggies et cereals if you prefer
Sreston@reddit
Affording to live and affording luxuries are two different things
s3ph@reddit
Is this cheaper than veggies and meat in murica?
jeets@reddit
no. I'd put down money that instead of just those mochi bites he could have bought enough meat and veggies to make 2 solid meals.
Wtf-Road@reddit
Hes got 2 things of lettuce and some spaghetti for a meal. They should be teaching kids how to shop and live independently.
SpringwoodOhio1428@reddit
Spaghetti is incredibly cheap
mischling2543@reddit
They do but kids are dumb and don't listen
Jumugen@reddit
Kids have always been dumb and prone to not listening
N1ghtshade3@reddit
Yeah like how they teach kids how to add and subtract and calculate compound interest yet we have a generation of adult children whining that they didn't know they had to pay back their student loans or that making the minimum payment on them would make them take forever to pay off.
Narcissus_the@reddit
This us aldis, those mochi bites are like 3 bucks
Puzzleheaded-Crew953@reddit
Yes, it is. Most Americans won't acknowledge it, but a large bag of chips is maybe $3. A packet of 2lb ground beef can be around $15. Most people here live with their parents, so they don't know the cost of things
IronicRobotics@reddit
I mean comparing cost of protein vs carbs & oil is comparing apples n oranges. Protein is always theore expensive part of the bill.
A big of chips is $3, but 5 lbs or rice or flour is also like $3.
eat_my__pie@reddit
junk food is more expensive in the long run due to the extra health care costs associated with a shitty diet
Puzzleheaded-Crew953@reddit
Most of the "healthy food" in America is even worse on top of being expensive. Why do you think that the EU and a good portion of the world doesn't import meat and eggs and vegetables from here. On tof this, the people this would affect can't afford to buy to think about
Din_Plug@reddit
Nope, drop the cookies and oreo ice-cream and you can buy a nice cut of meat easy.
Nutaholic@reddit
No, desserts and snack food are usually taxed at higher rates which is most of what OOP bought.
IAmMadeOfNope@reddit
No. These posts are always bait.
greedybanker3@reddit
i just went to aldis and got food for a week. 32$. i even splurged a little. honestly though the chicken breast are pretty big so may be 2 weeks of food. how are people so bad at shopping?
DankElderberries420@reddit
He's been in office 7 months, blame the last administration
ILoveWesternBlot@reddit
he said he'd lower prices day 1 though
DankElderberries420@reddit
Does that sound realistic to you?
ILoveWesternBlot@reddit
i was't sure but he said he'd do it. Are you implying he lied?
MJisaFraud@reddit
Even though he said he’d reduce grocery prices on day one and it’d be so fast it’d make our heads spin.
ace_invader@reddit
Yeah and most of the inflation from that administration came from the one before it
DankElderberries420@reddit
That logic could be applied to the last several administrations spanning 1-2 decades
I_lie_on_reddit_alot@reddit
Yep the tariffs and mass arresting of farm labor have no effect on food prices whatsoever!
Those blueberries? Imported back in January.
DankElderberries420@reddit
Bought a pint of blueberries 2 weeks ago, cost me 3 dollars
ace_invader@reddit
And I keep paying. Love it!
Unlucky-Hamster-306@reddit
That isn’t $63 at Aldi. OP is just a fat re+ard who wants to cry about something.
Thalilalala@reddit
90% overpriced brand items
TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit
OP, are you the one who tried posting this shit last week and then everyone called it out because there were Jaffa Cakes and other britbong slop in there?
deakka@reddit
Take out all the sweets and sugar. Remove the protein bars and other ready made garbage. Add about 6 boxes of pasta (any shape), a few 6 or 12 packs of ramen, small bag of rice, some veggies(include a small bag of lemons), a dozen eggs and lean meat.
Your bill will be the same or cheaper.
The solution to adding veggies when you can't cook for shit is to roast them in the oven. Put them in an oven safe pan, drizzle them with lemon juice/salt/pepper, pull them out before they start to lose all their juiciness. Zuchini are phenomenal for this and i highly suggest this as Robots first home cooked veggie. Add a starch (pasta or rice or ramen), add a small cut of meat or an egg. Do this and you'll be eating so much better than the fatty who buys pre-made shit and expensive white person mocchi.
___X___@reddit
I can get costco 18 pack of premium ramen for 18$ and 24 eggs for 5$
at roughly 20 cents per egg and 1$ per ramen packet, i can get a meal for 1.40$
Then i just take a multi vitamin.
(premium ramen is worth the extra cost over the 20cent per packet ramen because it tastes better and has larger portions)
Ill_Elephant@reddit
Are you factoring in your insurance deductible to the daily meal cost for those kidney stones?
___X___@reddit
you know you dont have to use the entire packet and drink the broth right?
Finna_Otter_91@reddit
I usually throw away the block of noodles and snort the packet
Chadzuma@reddit
Get a pork shoulder and roast it on Sunday and the pulled pork will easily last until Friday, you can just drop it straight in the ramen after the egg cooks
Cob_Dylan@reddit
Fuckin Richie Rich over here with hardwood floors. I live in a camper that used to be a chicken coop. STFU
bobqjones@reddit
Listen to this chucklefuck with his camper.
My house IS a chicken coop.
Free eggs and a feather pillow, though, and an occational chicken dinner make it livable.
Cob_Dylan@reddit
This assmaster over here with his chickens. The nerve!
OliverMonster1@reddit
The DNC deleted a Tweet shortly after posting it that showed the drastic increase in grocery prices under Biden.
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1948521565454516606
jmccarthy50@reddit
Yep, blaming Trump while blatantly ignoring that prices skyrocketed under the Biden admin.
OliverMonster1@reddit
It always makes me think of this.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEy8iejwIqK2VJN1_2st4P5xJHZPaFQoQ8Bg&s
Roninizer@reddit
Do you really need anything else?
hh26@reddit
WTF is this premium luxury junk food? Hazelnut cookies? Mochi Ice Cream? Broccoli Bites? Organic Spring Mix?
You're buying "Spoiled Karen with a $120k Salesman Husband" snacks. It's supposed to cost $63, that's how the stores make extra money from rich people who don't budget. I assume you bought the fancy organic name brands deliberately to enable this as rage bait, because if you were trying you could get near identical stuff for half the price or less.
OlivDux@reddit
I can’t fathom why I am still shocked the average American actually eats like that
Brilliant_Area8175@reddit
Those hazelnut cookies fuck
rumSaint@reddit
90% processed food 50% sweets Do amerimutts really?
Ultrasaurio@reddit
wow 63$ will serve me well for several months. Even though I live in a poor fifth world country, I rarely have the chance to have $63.
Real_Zxept@reddit
UpvoteCircleJerk@reddit
And it's not in a can or sealed off in plastic.
Makes me sick.
Legoking@reddit
He probably only had 1 condom left
Shatophiliac@reddit
Yeah of course, if you’re a big fat idiot and only buy fully processed, name brand food, it’s expensive. Learn to cook from scratch really well, and your life will be 10x easier. You’ll save money, eat way better tasting food, and you’ll be way healthier than pretty much any other alternative. Buying protein bars and individually wrapped frozen burritos and then complaining about the bill is tiny brain energy.
And even if you can’t cook, rice and beans and veggies have barely increased in price the last 10 years. Recession-proof your diet and live forever, fatties. Almost everyone I know who complains about food prices 75+ lbs overweight and absolutely dumb as hell.
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IronJackk@reddit
Any of these types of "look at my grocery haul for X dollars" that doesn't include a 20 pound sack of rice and beans I can't take seriously.
agewin162@reddit
That's Aldi brand stuff.
If you can't make $60 last you several weeks, that's on you. Rice and beans, PB&J, potatoes, and some spices might not be glamorous, but they'll last you a long ass time if you spend wisely.
WendyLRogers3@reddit
It would be a lot clearer if the picture was overlaid with each item's prices. Some of the items are clearly below a dollar each, but others are store made or ultra processed so are pricey.
Stratocaster5000@reddit
Bro this was literally posted 6 days ago I even have a comment on it
Spirited-Away4215@reddit
cake and lettuce $140
Autisticus@reddit
I see nothing but HFCS and Seed Oils. 0 meats, 0 vegetables.
Safar1Man@reddit
That's literally all junk food besides the banana/berries and salad lmao
Osky_gon@reddit
I know for a damn fact that this guy isn't eating that salad
shitsock449@reddit
Is this unironically what grocery shopping in the US looks like?
IAmMadeOfNope@reddit
No. Anons post this shit pretty often because it's reliable bait.
digital_pocket_watch@reddit
For socials addicted dweebs on welfare it is Ig.
Wimi_Bussard@reddit
Is anon buying for a daily meal or is he buying for a party with friends? It's like 90% sweets.
DonnieMoistX@reddit
I’m not sure I get the joke, but I’m confident I can buy that for less for $30
Ordo_Liberal@reddit
That Oreo Ice cream is the best store one I ever had but it's expensive af. Like, 5x the price of a normal one.
Temelios@reddit
Half your “food” is processed crap. If it doesn’t qualify for EBT anymore, they’re doing you a favor, dude.
positivelypolitical@reddit
Are we winning, son?
Opheodrys97@reddit
I was gonna roast him for the lack of vegetables until I noticed the packaged lettuce. Still a bad processed garbage to fresh produce ratio
PM_ME_BAD_ALGORITHMS@reddit
He also has some blueberries and a banana, that's enough retro food for anon to subsist on
chiefoogabooga@reddit
All that and no Mountain Dew? Obvious psyop. Where's the cat?