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CreasingUnicorn@reddit

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 1994 there was an average of 80 violent crimes per person in the US, and in 2024 that has dropped to about 25:

https://ncvs.bjs.ojp.gov/multi-year-trends/crimeType

So not only were things literally 4x worse in the 90s, but OP completely missed the point and is an idiot.

Stop getting all of your news from right wing tiktok my dude.

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chiefoogabooga@reddit

In 1994, the police showed up when you called 911. Arrests were made. Prosecutors filed charges, and criminals went to prison.

In 2024, the police departments of any major city are severely understaffed. Response times are so abysmal people stop calling. If police do show up they frequently don't bother to arrest anyone because they know the prosecutor will decline to press charges anyway.

As usual, statistics need context to be useful. Things were definitely not 4x worse in 1994.

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Oh Dallas, easy. It's pretty close to your beloved kansas city as well.

Because I'm about to move there and apply for the PD

no you won't

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I mean, do you have any information at all to counter this data, or to prove that is is in error, or biased in some way?

Or are you just convinced that you are correct because you feel like im wrong?

Even if no one is arrested or even any suspects identified, if someone is attacked or stabbed etc, it still gets counted.

If a report is filed. It doesn't have to be something life threatening to be considered a violent crime. You could be walking down the street and some dumbass runs by and punches you. If you're in an era and place where police responses are good, you might call the police.

In many places today, you're going to consider whether it's worth it to wait for two hours for the police to respond, knowing they're not going to bother investigating or prosecuting anyway.

Common sense would tell you that many more crimes occur than are reported. It has always been that way. That's why no one should put too much faith in crime statistics. Common sense should also tell you that violent crime wasn't 4x worse 30 years ago. Especially when homicides, the violent crime that is most likely to be reported, have remained relatively flat during the same time period.

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RankWinner@reddit

There are many categories of crimes which will be reported at the same rate regardless of police response, since the police report itself is what the victim needs.

Insurance claims require a police report, car/firearm thefts should be reported so you're not blamed if it is involved in a crime, theft of a wallet reported to cancel bank cards/IDs, assault report if you need medical attention, phone theft reported to lock it/cancel contract, etc...

Especially when homicides, the violent crime that is most likely to be reported, have remained relatively flat during the same time period.

Homicide rates peaked in 1991 at 10.7/100k, lowest in 2014 at 4.7... halving is "relatively flat"?

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chiefoogabooga@reddit

There were two years given in the comment I was replying to. 1994, and 2024.

In 1994, there were 23,305 homicides reported in the US.

In 2024, there were 22,830 homicides reported in the US.

Don't hurt your brain trying to cherry pick the highest and lowest years you can find, or using per capita stats. For the two years I was replying about, those numbers are pretty damn flat.

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RankWinner@reddit

So you went from:

As usual, statistics need context to be useful.

To only looking at the raw number of homicides reported in two cherry picked years, ignoring anything else, including the population at the time...?

Also what's the point of saying comparing two numbers is "relatively flat"? Or if saying "during the same time period"?

We both know you weren't literally talking about comparing the total number of reported homicides between those two year.

And pretending that you were just makes your point seem even dumber...

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Satyrsol@reddit

In 1994 there were 263.4 million people in the US.

In 2024 there were 340.1 million people in the US.

The top level comment you replied to was talking about rates, not flat numbers. Your inability to grasp that comment is why literally everyone replying to you is calling you out for your ignorance.

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XkrNYFRUYj@reddit

I act as if people are notoriously bad ad judging these things fairly and famously good at justifying things based on their political agenda which is exactly what you're doing here.

If you're doubting crime stats just go out there and collect new stats and publish your results and methodology.

"I feel like we have more crime" is an instant disregard for anything else coming from your mouth. Because I feel like you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Pitiful_Special_8745@reddit

Well if you just do nothing just stare at a silent footage of let's say London 100 years ago, 80,60,40,20 years ago.

Put in AI. Objective 0 feeling.

What do you see?

Humans cant say it out loud

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XkrNYFRUYj@reddit

Put in AI. Objective 0 feeling.

That alone show you have literally no idea what you're talking about and no one should consider any words coming out of your mouth.

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Real_Yhwach@reddit

I think you might be a little retarded buddy.

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LoLFlore@reddit

How much footage of london 100 years ago do you thnk there is???

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After-Imagination-96@reddit

Tomorrow is Monday. I want you to wake up early around 7am and walk outside your house. Then walk down to the corner of your street and wait. A big yellow bus will come driving down the street. Get on it.

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OliverMonster1@reddit

The "Ferguson Effect" is a theory suggesting that increased public scrutiny and criticism of police following incidents like the Michael Brown shooting in Ferguson, Missouri, leads to a decline in proactive policing, ultimately contributing to a rise in crime rates.

There is a percentage of cops that are racist bigots and use their position to further that. It is negligible. There is a much larger percentage of them who, at one time, knew they represented the thin blue line that kept society in check. These cops ran into danger which, shockingly, was concentrated in lower income area where the victims were minorities.

Those days are over. All the back pedaling over Defind the Police isnt going to make things the way they were. If someone who is armed is running away the cops know they're playing roulette whether or not the progressive Soros DA will ruin their lives over it. They don't care if that same person goes on to victimize other minorities. The point is the system is now heavily in favor of cops doing absolutely nothing more than they have to.

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Did it? There are 100 million more people alive in the US than there were in 1990, it makes sense that things happened less often because the population was less than 2/3 of what it is now.

Also social media didnt exist, so you didnt hear about crimes nearly as often in the 90s unless something made national headlines, whereas today if someone in California steals a snickers wrapper from 7-11 you will have a thousand people in Texas complainimg about it within 5 minutes.

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smut_butler@reddit

If you responding to my comment about there being a lot more mass shootings these days then there used to be, social media has nothing to do with it. I'm talking about documented incidents...

Do you think that any mass shootings weren't well documented in the '90s because there is no social media?

Just Google "Are there more mass shootings today in the United States than there where in the '90s?"

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Jumugen@reddit

A local guy killed his family but the news instead reported on a migrant knife attack

The states who have banned abortion have a high percentage of black individuals and so we can expect a lot of the children born currently who would have been abortions, had their mothers had access, to be black, as well as poorer than average. This will in turn raise the overall crime rate 15-30 years from now.

It is also interesting, and also very sad, that these states who ban abortion are also the ones pushing heavily into mass incarceration, privatized prisons, and slave labor for incarcerated individuals. We are seeing a return to forced pregnancy and slave labor of blacks in the South. This is not a byproduct of some pro life movement. This is a long term game by the Republicans to fill beds and capitalize off of our nations poor and vulnerable.

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Book_of_Numbers@reddit

He never said anything about race at all.

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seldomtimely@reddit

Do you think you're talking to an idiot? Crime rate is directly related to abortion they said. Would he make that claim about the precious white race. Claim is wromg on every interpretation btw.

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Book_of_Numbers@reddit

Yes

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pantsfish@reddit

This. The crime rate drop is directly related to abortion access

Just because things happen at the same time doesn't mean one caused the other.

This applies to your comment too:

I blame social media.

keeleon@reddit

The people robbing and killing others in my community are still very much my "enemy" regardless how I feel about people with more money than me.

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TNTspaz@reddit

Eh. Context always matters when it comes to data. Laying it out like this never tells the entire story. You only really lay it out like this if you want make some kind of talking point that's too broad but people easily buy into.

Where did the crime happen. What kind of crime. Repeat offenders. Etc... Especially in the US, our statistics get absolute fucked by a handful of cities that no one knows how to fix. Fucking country is way too big and no one ever takes individual responsibility for anything.

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CreasingUnicorn@reddit

I mean if you have any other kinds of data that would indicate that this is wildly incorrect or somehow extremely biased then I would like to see it, but looking at numbers in aggregate it is difficult to argue OPs point that things are somehow "literally worse" now, when by most available metrics we are significantly better off now than in the 90s and OP is objectively wrong.

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SUMBWEDY@reddit

You can just look at the worst cities and their populations and remove it from the group. Or use statistics which show 60%~ of violent crime is committed by 1% of the population, or that 50% of people in prison are on their 10th visit.

For example Memphis has 0.18% of the US population but has 2.1% of all murders in the country (398 out of 19780), if you remove memphis the murder rate in the US would go from 6.8 per 100,000 to 6.66 per 100,000. Remove memphis, baltimore, st loius, and detroit and your murder rate drops to about 6 per 100,000. That's a 15%~ drop in crime from excluding just 0.66% of the country (and most of that crime would be done by just 1% of the people living in those cities)

"Wake the fuck up and listen to the teenage racists on 4chan!"

Okay buddy thanks for the tip.

JuanchiB@reddit

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love-em-feet@reddit

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reddit_has_fallenoff@reddit

The jews

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AutoModerator@reddit

30 years ago, you have 30 apples.

Today, you have 10 apples.

The amount of apples you have had have been going down for 60 years. Don't be daft. Don't be daft

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Mobile_Barber_6529@reddit

Was gonna come here to say this…well something similar, not exactly but same point.

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temujin321@reddit

For some reason I thought you were discussing wages at first.

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Atlas001@reddit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States#/media/File:ViolentCrimeInTheUS1960-2022.png

More like:

60 years ago you had 10 apples.

40 years ago you have 30 apples.

30 years ago, you have 40 apples.

Today, you have 20 apples.

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igotbanneddd@reddit

In the 90s, the North Hollywood Shootout comes to mind. 2 guys with full-auto rifles, 1 had a 100-round drum, the other had a 30-round box magazine. A lot of people forget the reasons why places have such tight gun control now. Those guy had previously robbed 2 banks and two armored cars. Hell, Detroit was murder and mayhem in the 60s and 90s: 2 people murdered every day.

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redstateradiator@reddit

California has tight gun control laws because of Reagan and the NRA.

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Rydagod1@reddit

60 years ago was 1965 which had a lower crime rate than today. It steadily went up for years and had a huge spike in the 80s, peaking in the 90s and has been trending down since. So no, it has not dipped over that timeframe.

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faragul@reddit

Surveillance systems being everywhere, GPS tracking, face recognition techs, gait recognition tech etc etc made catching criminals really easy thats why crime went down because you can easily track down criminals, especially in the urban areas.

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Reptillian97@reddit

thats why crime went down

These technological advances are also the reason why the crime rate had that apparent upward spike, people started getting caught more, which the naiive interpret to mean a drastic rise in crime rather than a simple increase in detection.

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elitegenoside@reddit

Now look up the statistics for murders being solved

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dicerollingprogram@reddit

You never did too well in statistics. Did you? Couldn't stop eating the crayons huh?

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Rydagod1@reddit

Based on the shitty apple analogy you gave earlier, I don’t think you did well in any class.

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CalmOptimal@reddit

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LiftingRecipient420@reddit

Don't be daft

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PrimateOnAPlanet@reddit

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bobqjones@reddit

Gangs and crack.

Thank you CIA

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Hungry_Freaks_Daddy@reddit

We need to see what happens when GTA VI comes out

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elitegenoside@reddit

Shit, most Americans who were around for it don't even recognize how much better things have gotten. Got 40-something friend from the Chi who says how bad things are now. Dog, you used to walk to the bus with an echo of gunfire in the background on a weekly basis. The dude saw a man get executed in broad daylight when he was a teenager, and now the only violence he sees is on the internet. But kids are making drill music, so it must be way worse now.

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gman8686@reddit

Things are still pretty violent in areas here, I don't think crime has gone down here like is has gone down in the rest of the country. I'm not super familiar with the stats but I would venture to say if crime has gone down in the past few years it's not by much, and the property crime is out of control.

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elitegenoside@reddit

Violent crimes are down pretty well across the board (in recent history). There are spikes here and there, but for the most part, that applies to the violent areas as well.

How can liberals stop people from calling 911? Crime rates are based on crimes reported, not arrests or prosecutions.

Do you think, like, liberals are getting assaulted but because it's whatever "undersirables" you group together they don't go to the police? Or are you saying that every single city and state is successfully misreporting numbers without any evidence getting out? Or are you saying that every city and state is controlled by a single little group that is so good at what they do that it has less evidence than UFOs being extraterrestrial?

Or are you all the way into that white supremacy where different races are litterally different aliens, cuz that shit is when it goes dumb as fuck to at least also a little humorous.

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chanbr@reddit

Honestly there are probably a lot more (boring to political fanatics) factors going into underreporting, although murder-type crime seems to have gone down, other sorts of crimes have gone up. For one thing, police distrust is way more widespread and generalized, especially post-BLM, so people are less willing to report. Police departments are significantly understaffed as a knock on effect, less people to process paperwork. Both of these things are easily searchable, so don't ask me to source lol. This means vigilantism goes up.

TikTok and "influencer culture" also seems to have encouraged way more pranking-type harassment and crimes, to the point where various people have started getting arrested for dumb tiktok stuff. Not that this hasn't happened before the 90's, but now there's a bigger audience to watch/praise/give you money to do stupid stuff, and they're all reacting live.

Secondly, although I'm not gonna generalize, there are absolutely cases where race was denied or avoided to prevent people from talking about it. Like the Casey report (where the person commissioned explicitly called out people downplaying "asian grooming gangs" because they were afraid of being called racist) is probably the biggest one (and the most statistically important) right now, but there's other anecdotes, like the german politician Selin Gören who lied about who assaulted her to protect them. I don't think it's rational necessarily. Left wing people in particular just don't want to be the cause of more harm to a marginalized community and so they'll try to avoid specifically naming them. If you feel mad that I said that, you could compare it to right wing people not wanting to name priests who abuse kids or something, although it's definitely not all of the right just like covering up crimes is definitely not all of the left, idk. You just want to protect a group you feel is important to you against (in your opinion) unjust retribution.

LA is a big, BIG place. Lot of it is bad, lot of it is bad.

That moment when people notice that Racial differences in homicide rates are poorly explained by economics - Race (% black population by county) predicts homicide rate better than poverty rate, median household income, racial segregation, income segregation, and education rates

Btw admins are malding and have banned that entire domain so you need to repost with a link shortener or otherwise mess with the link (like replacing "R" with "%52" URL encoding) or else your comment/post gets automatically removed by the filter lol

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damnmaster@reddit

Stats may not lie, but the conclusions are regarded.

You’re right, the biggest predictor of crime is race… in that black people get arrested at higher rates than white people for the same crime (even in crime such as meth where the rate of abuse is the same), but also get exonerated from crimes at a significantly higher rate.

You’re looking at data expecting it not to be biased when it’s biased by human error. Numbers may not lie but people do.

One redditor actually put it succinctly in that he says (though sarcastically) that it’s because the police are racist. Because they actually are.

Not to mention what’s another thing that has greatly impacted nearly every black community around the world? Segregation or oppression to varying degrees. People love to pretend that hundreds of years of oppression just disappears overnight. We still have people alive today who have lived during segregation.

It’s not a hard connection so long as you’re willing to have an open mind and not be a racist. Yiure talking about a head start that black people were unable to cultivate.

That is community building, generational wealth, generational education, no building of animosity with authority (Tuskegee, police brutality, MLK), acceptance by the general population at large, job and familial stability.

I genuinely cannot fathom how people ignore all these issues. Do I say that black people do not commit crime? Nope, do I say that black peoples commit less crime than white people? Nope. But while we have the same facts, the grifters will speculate on those facts with regarded conclusions.

Their statistical examinations always boil down to: I put this number next to this number, and this number is bigger!?!? Society!?!?. There’s a reason that statistics is an entire university course. Though I doubt these grifters have any insight into how regarded they are.

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ImmaSuckYoDick2@reddit

You’re right, the biggest predictor of crime is race… in that black people get arrested at higher rates than white people for the same crime

The problem is that countries in Europe almost identically mirrors the crime percentages of the US when it comes to black over representation but without the historical social issues that you use as excuses in the US.

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damnmaster@reddit

Do you not know the history of Africa at all? Even to this day there are colonial states in Africa. France only moved their military out of one of them last year/2023. The same France that performed a coup and installed a puppet government so they could have access to their resources.

Anyway, like I said, poverty is the largest predictor of crime not race. Everywhere you see poor people is where you will also see crime.

There is an apt saying I heard once that incapsulates this point very well: “a child who is shunned by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”.

If you are rejected by society, you’re more likely to not follow society’s rules.

It’s not just black people. Look around the world at any race and you’ll see this issue. The polish are the “blacks” of Europe and face all the same stereotypes of lazy or criminal. Pretty much any country touched by any form of colonial intervention has left the native community in shambles.

Yeah, single motherhood is a tricky one. It’s curious that abortion rates are 4.5x higher among blacks compared to whites but the single motherhood rates are still so much higher. It seems that non-whites use the pill half as often which could explain part of it.

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Jumugen@reddit

As far as I know, economical difference take generations to overcome

Does that statistic consider that as well? If not, isn't it pretty much faulty?

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Protozelous@reddit

Well the point of that (critique? I dunno what else to call it) is that these issues can't be explained by economics alone, not that economics aren't part of the problem.

/pol/ Total Posts by Country (after 2014-12-15):

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notapandah@reddit

lmao true.

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JinandJuice@reddit

Well first we as a society have to agree on the findings, which society absolutely does not, before we can finally start discussing how to solve it. If there’s no agreement on causality then there can’t be agreement on remedy.

And in this study, while unequivocally showing that race, poverty, and single motherhood absolutely is highly correlated with violent crime, the study does not necessarily suggest a causal relationship. Causal inferences are difficult to do, but this study is a lot better than nothing .

Right now, we can’t even get past the correlational results.

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notapandah@reddit

yeah

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mischling2543@reddit

Sounds like police are just racist

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J0hnNightreign@reddit

why don't you notice that you've aligned yourself with Nazis that literally no one likes

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HorseNuts9000@reddit

Better than the alternative side

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SeaSquirrel@reddit

has interests and hobbies only possible in a free liberal society

hates liberals anyway

*justifiable

TheTwinFangs@reddit

Protecting is when you shoot someone to defend your property

Bro executed him (slaughter) at gunpoint with a curb and his foot, that's not exactly the same. You can't torture and rape someone just just because he was on your property and call it a day.

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Present_Confusion311@reddit

In a criminal case this has to be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt so forensics must’ve been key evidence because there are no good witnesses that time of night

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After-Imagination-96@reddit

This is the dumbest comment in a sea of dumbass comments

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LordMimsyPorpington@reddit

I thought this was America! I'm sorry, I thought this was America!

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No_Entertainment2934@reddit

The Rare Self Aware Ethnonationalist.

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Maxbonzoo@reddit

I watched this movie last year and it was a disappointment for all the praise it gets.

Almost everything Norton says in the first half of the movie is just blatantly true, then in the second half of the movie when he changes, instead of debunking all the stuff in the past he said or whatever, the movie just summarizes everything as "I was really angry with the world" and meeting one nice black guy just changes his mind on everything.

Its stupid and undermines an entire political thought as basically just being anger which is a common but juvenile misunderstanding. Especially since him being "angry" doesnt mean he wasnt right about the stuff he said.

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Cuplike@reddit

The truth is American History X is a terrible commentary movie but a great drama. Literally couldn't take any scene that intended to serve a message seriously but the family drama was quite gripping

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BaineBloodhoof@reddit

Tony Kaye apparently wanted a much darker ending where after Danny Vinyard gets killed, the final scene is of Derek shaving his head again. It was meant to be a bleak message that racial conflict will always be something that is inescapable.

Kaye and Norton were at odds over this and the fact that Norton wanted more screen time and monologues for Derek. Norton became the de facto Director for the film and was especially influential in the final cut. Kaye has since denounced the film. Kaye’s alleged ending makes the film a lot more coherent.

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CatMan_Sad@reddit

The alternate ending sounds super dumb. The whole point is that derek is an extremely smart dude, but he was misguided by hate. His whole arc was him working through his racism and hatred. Him shaving his head just sounds like "somehow palpatine returned" levels of writing.

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IAmMadeOfNope@reddit

The whole point of the final release is that. The whole point of the other version was that hate is difficult to escape.

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MenBearsPigs@reddit

The other version is maybe more realistic. Though Derek did seem like a truly changed guy, who clearly saw how he was manipulated. He was intelligent.

I liked the ending as is. It is really dark. Derek did everything he could to fix things, but he was just too late in doing so. He just didn't get them out soon enough.

faragul@reddit

Racism gets you no where only if you lose in the end. Look at the Jews openly committing genocide in the 21st century and nobody can do anything against them because they control the system and they have infiltrated into the positions where you can have a lot of power and control in the western institutions, banks and governments. Ends justify the means as seen by this. If you can win then your moral masturbation equates to nothing. This is what liberals can’t seem to understand since the universe doesn’t work around such arbitrary feelings and moral values.

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EHStormcrow@reddit

lmao people only very vaguely care about Gaza. Sure, people are dying, but most of them are brown muslims that don't like the West so many people are like "shucks that's just too bad".

If Israel attacked... Cyprus, for instance... it would be massively different. Just like people care a lot about Ukraine but give zero fucks about inter-African conflicts or even Yemen.

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faragul@reddit

Except Gaza is attracting a lot of attention in the west, yet Israel is still openly perpetuating their slaughter without any global backlash. The sole reason for that is, Israel has total dominion over the western governments and organizations. It’s the most apparent with how pro-Israeli the western politicians are. The matter of the fact is, the Jewish elite are the privileged patricians in the modern age. They have totally mindbroken the western demographics with their victimization tactics and overall cunning deceptions.

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djunkmailme@reddit

How did Trump get Paul Weiss, Skadden Arps, and other Big Law firms to commit to $100M's of pro bono legal work?

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EHStormcrow@reddit

You're overestimating the importance of Gaza for non-immigrant Westerners. Sure, it sucks that innocents are dying in Gaza (really, it is). But most people will care more about finding a job, a significant other, a home, etc...

There's much more apathy than there is willful pro-Israeli choices.

We can't get most people to care about global warming, yet it's hitting them right now. Caring about a bunch of dudes (dudes of which 5 % are active enemies of the West) 4-6 hours away by plane is an luxury.

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Lol

I am no racist. I was just making a point

He's recognising that his little brother got killed because of what HE had done in the past.

The funniest part of the movie is.

>Norton gets fucked in the ass
>becomes a lefty immediately

Really gets the noggin' joggin'.

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scoots-mcgoot@reddit

Of course OP would agree. He is a huge retard.

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burgonies@reddit

The barb wire tattoos are kinda hard to get behind

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TheToodlePoodle@reddit

Idk some guy in the movie did get behind them in prison (I've heard, haven't seen the whole film)

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Masterblader158@reddit

Worse than in the 90s

/pol/ard anon who likely tells you not to trust mainstream media falls for mainstream media's fear mongering about crime, outside Covid causing bump up such rates are constantly decreasing. Proofing racism rots your brain hard.

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Tukulo-Meyama@reddit

Edward Norton wife was Mexican during that time lol Salma Hayek

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Fast-Tonight-6113@reddit

Los Angeles in the 90s was like Mogadishu compared to today

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Sharky-Li@reddit

The irony is racism wasn't a huge topic for most people back then like it is now. Non-whites starred in movies but nobody minded because it wasn't so heavy handed.

You'd rarely be called racist unless you were really trying and I don't think I ever heard someone be called a nazi who wasn't sporting a swastika. It seemed so normal back then.

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SecondSoulless@reddit

The entire point of that movie was to take what is a completely reasonable point of view/conclusions from what is happening to our country and then make it taboo to believe in because the guy saying it is le evil Nazi

The American people have been getting propagandized like this for decades. Hard not to spot once you start seeing it

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Equal-Change9509@reddit

"Media literacy is when you interpret movies the same exact way i do"-those people

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csky@reddit

Re watching 90's and 00's movies lately. Its not funny to realise now that most were blatant propaganda. Wish my parents stepped in and pointed out the flaws right then.

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bunker_man@reddit

Wait til you find out that media has been propaganda since back when Greek plays made fun of socrates.

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OneEnvironmental9222@reddit

yea unlike todays media

oh wait

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Ice_Swallow4u@reddit

Derek Vinyard: Jogger, you just fucked with the wrong bull! You should've learned your lesson on the fuckin' basketball court! But you fuckin' monkey's never get the message. My father gave me that truck motherfucker! You ever shoot at fireman? You come here and shoot at my family? I'm gonna teach you a real lesson now motherfucker. Put your fuckin' mouth on the curb.
Lawrence: Come on man...
Derek Vinyard: I said put your mouth on the curb!
[Lawrence bites onto the curb]
Danny Vinyard: Derek, no!
Derek Vinyard: That's it! Now say good night.
[Derek stomps Lawrence's head into the curb]

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J0hnNightreign@reddit

be conservative retard

watch American history X

"Nazis are bad ok"

I don't get it, I agree with Nazis though?

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conansloincloth@reddit

And then his brother gets murdered in cold blood at the end showing that he was right all along.

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FreelancerFL@reddit

The lesson to take away from this is movie:

Are you mentally handicapped? It's wrong to steal a truck and then someone steals a truck and suddenly that's an insane unprecedented revolution? Where's the great idea there?

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Berlin_GBD@reddit

"He didn't have any good points."

"Well no shit that's a good point, but so what?"

>Bald.