Will we be left behind?
Posted by CerebralHawks@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 352 comments
I don't like AI, I don't like anything about it. I can't help but think it's more Skynet (Terminator franchise) than the ship computer in Star Trek. Yet, I see these companies out there charging $10-250 a month or even more for AI access. I feel like we've gone from everyone chasing cars, to computers, to phones, and now AI plans. And we still chase the old things, but more and more of our generation (and especially the Boomers) are straight up rejecting AI.
It's also like that with music. Rock is dead, at least in the US. I listen to Japanese rock, because I have Apple Music and I'm not limited by what radio stations and MTV (such as it is now, more reality TV and that Tosh.0 knockoff than anything else) choose to play. (And the same is true for Spotify and the others, of course.) But for a lot of us, the music we like is in the past, and we don't vibe with the new stuff.
It's harder to say with movies. I think we'll always have movies, but more and more will be "safer" choices like sequels, remakes, or part of the _____ Cinematic Universe (Marvel being the big one, but I mean, more "Cinematic Universes" will open up and it'll be easier to get a movie in that than on its own). Fortunately we have studios like A24 and Blumhouse that focus on more original content. I think most of what they put out is trash, but I'm fine with that, because most of what they put out is loved by someone and when I love something they do, it feels more special than a big studio film. (There are others, those are just the first two to come to mind.)
But speaking mostly of AIs and music... does anyone else feel like the younger generations are catching a ride that is leaving us behind?
Dry_Ad687@reddit
I didn't even try to read all that. But Yeah! The Japanese Rock scene is on fire+
cycleaccurate@reddit
I have the onerous job of being in one of those mega silicon vallley companies that is leading on AI on every front. I have been in uber tech for 35 years and in an executive function. So I think I am qualified to say that you are correct.
AI is here and it absolutely will lead to abuse, job loss at an unprecedented scale, and social decline.
That’s not AIs fault. That’s because of the capitalist, selfish, and hateful abuse of humans in general. You give people a tool and they will find ways to do great things with it but also abuse it.
Humanity hasn’t proven itself to be civil in 10,000 years.
hammerofspammer@reddit
Meh.
“AI” is still just a predictive language model. It hallucinates, lies, and can’t actually reason.
Somehow I find myself unconvinced.
Silicon Valley is going to force it into everything by misrepresenting what it can do, and then there will be a ton of jobs getting it back out
EccentricTiger@reddit
This is the shittiest AI is ever going to be. Plan accordingly.
hammerofspammer@reddit
Eh. Is ChatGPt 5 really that much better than 3?
They ran out of new material to train on years ago. Now they’re using computer generated data. That’s totally going to go well!
Evergreen4Life@reddit
They'll just continue to steal Intellectual Property to train their models (see multiple law suits).
hammerofspammer@reddit
What’s left to steal?
Seriously, what haven’t they already fed to the machines?
Evergreen4Life@reddit
True, the entire web has been illegally fed to the models, Im sure.
Emergency_Plane_2021@reddit
It’s tremendously better at actually getting things done.
Not better at telling you how awesome you are.
bnelson7694@reddit
I use AI daily at work. I’ve made it a part of my work flow to have it cite its sources because you are right - the hallucinating is out of control. Seems to change with the wind. One day great, next day it’s all BS.
SeparateFly2361@reddit
When it does cite its sources, they’re usually all junk
bnelson7694@reddit
You have to actually check the sources.
SeparateFly2361@reddit
Yes, I do check them, that’s how I know they’re junk. But the AI has wasted my time with answer based on garbage was my point
Manalagi001@reddit
It can reason. Whatever you thought you knew about it, it’s advancing fast.
hammerofspammer@reddit
Please. Show me “AI” that is reasoning.
bobyran711@reddit
I needed a better way to track our saas spending at work. My IT Manager gave me 3 options that were about 30k a year each. I met with all 3, asked how they do what they do, spent 2 weeks using AI to write an app that would do everything all 3 of those companies did, handed it down to my IT manager, and told him to try it out, and it was perfect.
No coding, no experience creating apps.
The entire time AI wrote the code, gave me ideas, motivated me when I got frustrated, and got the job done.
I firmly believe AI will replace a huge number of people (as an IT Director, myself included), and we will all end up working as laborers like Matt Damon in Elysium.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
it reminds me of "the cloud" about 15 years ago and how everything is going to the cloud and only about 1/3 moved to the cloud. We'll see what happens, it seems to be a great tool and get about 40% of what I ask for is correct but I'm the one thinking up what I need it to do. I have less than 10 years left so assuming the stock market doesn't take a major long term dump I'll be retired before it gets really bad.
hammerofspammer@reddit
Don’t forget how blockchain was going to change everything.
It was going to be a revolution! Everything was going to be in the blockchain
And then attention shifted again
cgoldberg@reddit
tbf, pretty much everything did move to the cloud.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
not really most companies are hybrid and in recent years I've seen a lot of companies that tried to move to the cloud move back on prem because of pricing. I think we're in for another shake up with Broadcom fucking up VMware but that's good for the worker bees.
spintool1995@reddit
My fortune 500 company is mostly in the cloud and currently migrating the last major piece, the ERP.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
I don't know, to me it's six of one and a half dozen of the other. I do agree that a cloud has some advantages but frankly I don't trust them and there's really nothing stopping them from pawing through my valuable data, I like knowing where my data resides and who has access to it. I also see a lot of "land and expand" engineering where a single on prem server is replaced by a half dozen smaller cloud servers.
my business is migration prem to cloud, cloud to prem, cloud to cloud so I really don't care I get paid no matter where it goes but it's certainly not all it was cracked up to be.
cgoldberg@reddit
You can claim it was "not all it was cracked up to be" and state anecdotal stories about businesses moving away from cloud all you want... but AWS alone pulled in $125 Billion in revenue last year, and most cloud providers are still seeing 20-25% yearly growth... so clearly most businesses don't agree. Cloud was pretty damn transformative and not at all hype or a passing fad.
Alternative-Law4626@reddit
I didn’t see where you talked about the role of containers in any of the migrations. That’s been the biggest game changer of the last 5-7 years whether you are doing it on-premise or in the cloud.
kblair210@reddit
Or how about VR. A few years ago, everything was going to move to VR. Yeah, no. AI isn't going to go away however, not as long as headcount can be decreased with it.
dblackshear@reddit
AI isnt really “intelligent”. it still needs george jetson to push buttons and to actually do things or approve of it doing things.
greytgreyatx@reddit
Yup. My husband got laid off from Indeed in March 2024. They did 1000 layoffs that year, 2000 the year before, and 1500 this year. They're cutting out developers because of AI but there is going to be a huge issue down the road when AI has written a bunch of code and no one can figure it out.
All the other stuff with music and movies I think is a stereotypical old person take. I feel like AI is going to change society, at least in the short term, and maybe forever.
The most frustrating part about all of this for me is that the promise of technology was to free up time from mundane tasks for humans. Employee productivity has gone up by over 80% since the first half of the 20th Centure, but pay has only gone up by 37%. We should have a 20 hour work week by now, but the corporate overlords are getting richer and richer and the drones are going to starve.
JTMissileTits@reddit
I don't know why anyone thought the corps would share their profits with humanity. They never have, and won't without the government forcing their hand.
hiscapness@reddit
As am I; I fear it’s going to be … bad. And many folks I know with great jobs are sticking their fingers in their ears going, “La la la I’m too important my job is safe…” Oh man, no, no it’s not. I fear that in 18 months the world is going to look like a much different place. Every time we go out to eat or have a big social function with friends I get this foreboding feeling that it may be one of the last times we’re all happy and thriving. I pray to whatever there is I’m wrong.
JTMissileTits@reddit
Jobs have never been safe, and this just adds another layer of uncertainty to the shit cake.
hiscapness@reddit
Right but “some” employment has been, you may not have liked it, but it was there. This is much, much different.
annang@reddit
I don’t know anyone who feels like we’re all happy and thriving now. The world’s largest economic and geopolitical machine has been basically shut down and is quickly descending into fascism. No one I know has been okay for many months now.
Coattail-Rider@reddit
That guy is on a higher level that hasn’t been affected yet but soon will be. We all soon will be. Heck, that guy and the guy he’s responding to sound like some of the guys that are getting us into this mess.
Alternative-Law4626@reddit
Late 2027-2028 is going to be wild. I’ll be retired but it gonna be interesting to watch.
cranberries87@reddit
I’ve been feeling this a lot lately too.
Different_Muscle_116@reddit
My concerns are falling through the cracks.
I feel like everyone will have at least a few situations where they can only do whatever service they need online. Technically there will be lengthy back doors where the services are required to have human beings solve glitches but those will have immense waiting lists to resolve so they wont be functional in a fast paced life.
Im talking greyed out boxes online. Having to answer multiple choice where your option isn’t listed so you are forced to lie or get something you don’t want. Im talking about social services, health care, the dmv, the IRS any licensing, hell just ordering eggs and milk. Im not speaking about these services being in a shortage or even over priced. I mean you have the money, you fit the criteria for the thing, but you get roadblocked, gate kept because of the system which is rigid and handled by an AI and theres no human customer support.
That isnt skynet its bureaucracy. Closer to a dystopia futurama.
JTMissileTits@reddit
I feel like everyone will have at least a few situations where they can only do whatever service they need online.
This is already the case in some businesses. Tried getting a person on the phone at MegaCorp lately?
Billionaires and corporations are going to act in their own interests.
stormpilgrim@reddit
"Just scan your eyeballs and get some free crypto. Just implant this chip under your skin so we can double make sure you're actually who you claim to be. Sure, the database might get pwned by some Romanian kid in his mom's basement, or if Revelation is right, you'll be damned to hell, but we can't let those trivial concerns get in the way of progress!"
charrold303@reddit
Finally found someone that sees what I see. Same role, same level. Everyone wants to run around in denial, saying “but AI isn’t as good as me!” It doesn’t have to be. If it’s better than the bottom 3rd of the people you work with then it’s “good enough”. That’s all these companies need to replace people with machines that don’t take breaks and don’t expect a fair working condition. And why? It’s cheaper. The end. They’ll accept a (possibly) worse product for the saved cash.
PyroNine9@reddit
I'm not sure what will be worse, the job losses, or the disastrous results from AI that really isn't ready to fill those roles but stays in use because it's slightly cheaper.
Emergency_Plane_2021@reddit
Double space, supports 35 years assertion.
cycleaccurate@reddit
You got me. Shit I just double spaced again.
I don’t know what I do that.
Melted-lithium@reddit
Exceptionally well put. Will gen X be left behind is the question at hand- and yes- probably For those that don’t engage in learning.
AI is funny in so much as it’s not just a thing but a way of thinking. Some people, particularly as they age, struggle on thinking differently. This is going to be really bad for a lot of folk far outside of tech- but also in tech.
(Also former big tech goon)…
Cranks_No_Start@reddit
Just read an article about this. GenXs reluctance with AI is causing the current ceos to skip over them and go with millennials to take over.
Mihailis27@reddit
That's correlation, not causation. That was happening for almost a decade before "AI" became a thing.
Cranks_No_Start@reddit
Here is The Article. You can decide.
Mihailis27@reddit
And here is the Harvard Business Review discusing the phenomenon in 2019.
Cranks_No_Start@reddit
I want tot say I recall that article ( or something very similar ) from the past.
I was reading the first paragraph and thinking Gen X was getting hosed because the boomers weren’t retiring. And lo and behold in the very next paragraph.
Not unlike politics where still have Silents let alone Boomers still in top positions.
It will get to the point where people scream for someone younger and skip the entire generation.
Alternative-Law4626@reddit
That’s why I was leading on AI before most millennials could spell it. Gotta stay relevant and identify tech trends before the next guy in this business.
Melted-lithium@reddit
From reading this sub and also just knowing people my age. This isn’t a surprise. I thought we had learned from our parents that ‘stopping learning’ was bad. Guess not
gigantischemeteor@reddit
Yes. But if that new way of thinking is ultimately just one of finding new ways to take advantage of people and maximize extraction of resources in service to an ever-growing behemoth, why would anyone want to adapt to live within it? That’s not survival, it’s streamlined extinction at one’s own hand. As we were taught at the end of “Wargames”, “The only winning move is not to play.”
Mypizzasareinmotion@reddit
We already are adapting, whether we like it or not, some better than others. Me, I’ll be the one in the nursing home screaming “but it’s not real!” as they force a VR headset onto my dementia brain. Maybe by then I’ll want it, idk. The issue is that it’s being built and legislated into a broken system that already fucks over the lower and middle class. AI will be a new way for corporations to figure out how to keep doing it.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
I'm in tech and have been for decades, I'm going to retire in the next 10 years and when I do I'm tossing my phone and laptop. I don't need most of what tech provides so I just won't use it.
clemdane@reddit
For me the ultimate luxury I can dream of is getting rid of my cell phone
punchcreations@reddit
AI is being used to stifle dissent, and is a tool past empires never had. We may be at the precipice of a Brave New World scenario.
CanadianPropagandist@reddit
You know, it feels inevitable but maybe that's because we're being told so aggressively that it's inevitable.
The technology (LLMs in particular) is a wonder when it works. Really scary when it breaks or falls short. But overall, the true costs are being hidden in the hopes that it becomes ubiquitous as a foregone conclusion.
I'm starting to feel a shift in the public's appetite for suffering the avarice of big tech. We have the power to push back, or at least make this bullshit work for us instead.
damndatassdoh@reddit
As someone who has been a jack of all trades IT technician since the late 80’s, I concur.
That AI and robotics are both coming of age at the same time makes for an “interesting times” dilemma for our species. That we’ve chosen the worst possible leadership at the most crucially important point in known human history… Oof.
Gen X was always a bit out of step with the Information Age, despite its coming during our youth; many of us stayed “analog”, so to speak. A big chunk of us are already hopelessly out of touch, and becoming more ossified as the months roll on… months vs years… the rate of development is accelerating.
Most people have NO CLUE just how radically this is going to change things. This is why ALL the focus is on this field, why all the technoligarchs are scrambling like crazy to gain the upper hand and reach AGI/super intelligence first.
As Iron Jim Cameron just recently noted, AI super intelligence may actually become our savior… though he still sees Skynet as a very real possibility…
It will enable true automation of industry, meaning no humans necessary at any stage… Running on fusion and renewable, all elements from inception, design, implementation through to repair and maintenance will be entirely ran by AI and robots, with generally greater than human ability.
We could have a world where all drudgery is eliminated, and humans are free to dream, create, play, as the concept of “work” is eliminated, as there is no “cost” in a truly automated world…
I think our species will change in unexpected ways as unexpected events come into play. I think human ego will reach an apex of awfulness resulting in its own self-destruction, in terms of its materialistic monomania, giving way to a true spiritual awakening, wherein abundance renders meaningless the need or desire to gain control of resources and dominate others… Wherein we recognize that consciousness is the foundation of All That Is, connecting each of us to one another in ways we can barely even grasp except at the most intuitive of levels…
cliffm@reddit
I think we will see massive suicide rates, as people can’t feed themselves and also have no purpose in the world.
superwatts23@reddit
I used to think like that. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and giving me hope again.
damndatassdoh@reddit
I appreciate you saying that. I’m an advocate of a determined (vs delusional) optimism. Everything stems from an incipient notion, idea, vision, if you’ll excuse the grandiosity.
We want to start re-envisioning what we want; for some time now, I know many of us have given up on more aspirational ideas of what tomorrow looks like… so did I.
What turned things around for me, even in the face of the rise of American fascism, was the work of Jane Roberts. Impossible to summarize as various elements are superficially problematic and at odds with Western ideologies…
clemdane@reddit
Wow, that is very optimistic
damndatassdoh@reddit
Humanity can do better. We can change course, but not without that determination, and not without a reckoning with our psyche, with that underlying, inner reality of our being… distorted by religion, denied by science, yet fundamental to what we are and why we’re here…
MoistKiki@reddit
As a low end user will there be a collaboration between AI creators that keeps the language models simple with meta tags and style prompts or will our Neurolinguistics have to adapt to how we communicate with future iterations of AI.
THC_Dude_Abides@reddit
Yeah think about this once The perfect autonomous driving: Cabbies, Uber, shipping, pilots, captains will no longer exist or will be severely reduced in numbers. All delivery or moving people jobs will no longer exist, putting tens of thousands of people out of work. Fast food robots. Cooking robots. 10s of thousands more out of work. Future is kind of bleak.
EccentricTiger@reddit
There are a lot of hype cycles in tech. Most of them are just hype cycles. AI will change things the way the Internet changed things. Just like the Internet, the tech kind of sucks at first, but this is the shittiest AI will ever be, it’s going to get much much better. Plan accordingly.
calpianwishes@reddit
How do we plan though?
cycleaccurate@reddit
Well yeah. The world didn’t collapse with the advent of electricity, combustion engines, computers, nor the internet.
However life changed dramatically with each innovation.
It is reasonable to argue that before the internet things like eCommerce didn’t exist. Now with eCommerce we see the collapse of mom and pop stores, physically going shopping has cratered, brick and mortar stores are more of a liability than a profit center, Sears has vaporized.
Where is all that wealth concentrated? A select few of oligarchs.
GenXrules69@reddit
I suggest, We, on an intellectual and societal level, are trailing the technological advances moreso now than any point in history.
Ok_Zucchini_8981@reddit
Humanity hasn't... MF, have you even watched Paddington 2?
AstroZombieInvader@reddit
I often feel that people blame the wrong thing. There's so much hate for AI as an entity, but the blame should really go towards the companies who are and will use AI to eliminate the need of humans and jobs to save money and grow their profits.
I've heard some people in the AI industry say that it will open up new opportunities for people, but I have yet to see anyone detail what those opportunities will be or look like. I think it's the equivalent of someone comforting you by saying, "It will be okay." when something absolutely won't be okay at all.
I personally think AI is a great tool for average people, but as you mentioned, it can and will be abused by some because humans are humans.
While we do live in a capitalist society, people aren't going to like it when their desk jobs become nonexistent and the only open jobs will be physical labor. There really should be some forward thinking by governments to ensure that AI isn't going to cause mass job displacement which would be terrible for the economy and the lives of their citizens, but I don't suspect anyone will do that.
bulanaboo@reddit
I also don’t like “it” but we gotta keep with the times as much as possible trust me if you knew me you’d be saying is this you talking right now caus I totally don’t practice what I preach but I know we should, like also I always think wouldn’t it be nice to have everyone in government be about my age, so much would change and maybe what I want isn’t the best idea, we should make the changing of the guard a slow one like it is, but yeah when I was 20 I would have made all government 20yo give or take and that probably was be bad in the long run…. Everyone is good to say what are you talking about and whatnot don’t bother it happens consistently just roll your eyes and move along lol
vase-of-willows@reddit
Idk, it seems more than just keeping up with the times. I think it’s something we need to be wary of and not allow it to infiltrate life as much as possible. What will be lost is immeasurable.
Zarathustra_d@reddit
I don't see how it can be stopped. That would take government regulation of corporations and neither party was willing to do that. The MIC won't back down due to the fear of "other countries" getting ahead on AI, and the politicians are willing to take the money and run.
Crawlerzero@reddit
One thing that has helped me actually get on-onboard (instead of pretending to be on-board for work) was discovering that I don’t need to engage with any of the mega models and the various issues that come with them. Learning about LM Studio and Local Llama has been great for the “F the establishment” punk kid in me that still has a desire to build robots out of junk. It’s just that these days the junk is Raspberry Pi’s and old laptops.
Bokononfoma@reddit
The early days of the industrial revolution weren't known for kindness or a strict adherence to child labor laws. I expect something similarly extreme with AI.
I'm more concerned about quantum computing and banana ball. Have you seen that garbage? I got talked into going to a "show" last night and it was god awful.
mike71diesel@reddit
AI is sponsored by giant corporations, that in name of the quaterly dividends and c-level bonuses will do the worst things, like they have done in the past.
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
Teacher here, and I detest where AI usage in schools is going right now. If I’m gonna be left behind, it’s ok. I don’t want to go. We’re being encouraged at every turn to incorporate AI into all aspects of our job (lesson planning, generating test questions, providing feedback to students, etc.). And we’re also supposed to teach students “responsible AI usage” which is a whole different set of gripes. So let’s say I use AI to generate a homework set. Then a kid goes home and uses it to solve the homework problems. That’s just having one robot talk to another, with people being the messenger, and no learning or meaningful interactions have happened.
AI is so new we don’t have the longitudinal studies yet but preliminary ones are disturbing. A recent study at MIT (granted it is very small sample size) has some pretty damning stats regarding AI and how it affects critical thinking skills and perpetuates echo chamber thinking.
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
I’ve been pondering this OP post and the replies all day, and I’m trying to pinpoint what it is about AI that disturbs me. I teach teenagers and one of the great benefits imo is they keep me on the cutting edge of things so I don’t become one of the caricature old people some comments are warning about. I’ve always embraced new technologies. Home computers, dial up, iPods, cell phones instead of landlines, smart phones, apps and socials, I’ve liked it all and tend to run towards it instead of away, although I’ve been deleting some social media apps lately due to moral and ethical objections.
But AI just stops me cold and makes a pit in my stomach. The closest thing I can compare it to was when I first learned about filter bubbles. I’m starting to think it’s about control? In all the technologies I listed, I still maintained my agency and sense of self. My brain was still in charge and running the show. Even with filter bubbles I figured out strategies to try to mitigate the effects, but it seems like feeding my life into AI is handing over my agency in a different way that I am wholly uncomfortable with.
Anyway, since this is the GenX sub and OP mentioned rock being dead, I’m gonna go listen to Killing in the Name and think some more.
JTMissileTits@reddit
Have you seen any of the articles about the (already mentally ill) people who are essentially creating abusive/enabling chatbots that are feeding their delusions? It's extremely worrying. Getting support for mental health issues is already so hard to do.
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
I have, and it breaks my heart and makes me so worried. Working with teenagers, it’s too easy to see how vulnerable kids could get pulled into unhealthy feedback loops.
StrangeAssonance@reddit
I don’t think rock is dead - you need to be into indie music culture to find it. My kid is into it and finds all kinds of music that won’t probably make it due to how the music industry is but it’s rock.
StrangeAssonance@reddit
I think the problem is public school education pushes the agenda of the rich and elite a lot more than what is best practice.
I’m in a private school and we absolutely do not want Ai grading or lesson planning or creating student feedback. I can see in public schools if they do that enough they can justify firing teachers.
I don’t detest where Ai is going where I am. But man you MUST have systems in place to teach the kids digital citizenship and ethical use of Ai. We are private. Kid makes a deepfake of a classmate we can expel them. We can hold kids to a higher standard.
I personally detest where public education is going…it’s why I have been private for most of my career.
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
Public school pushes the agenda of the rich and elite? And then you have the balls to comment that if a kid makes one error you kick them out? Man get the fuck out of here.
TraderJoeslove31@reddit
Real question- so is the first expectation that you should use ai to generate lesson plans ? And why? To save time? For the sake of saying you’re using ai?
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
Yes, it’s being trotted out as a time and labor saver. As in, use AI to do the mundane parts of your job faster. The thing is, when I’m lesson planning, so much is going on in my mind in terms of pacing, content, ideas for student engagement, etc. I turn that task over to a robot (I know it’s not actually a robot) and I lose all that richness.
In all fairness, there are some classroom uses that are being pitched that I can maybe sort of see the appeal. But it all kind of looks like party tricks. Slick on the surface but adding nothing of substance to what I already do.
StrangeAssonance@reddit
It’s good as an advanced Google search. Also it is a very good language translator. I sometimes use it to help me write letters of reference although now they sound too “ai” and I have to polish to make it feel like a person wrote it.
I could never use it to lesson plan. As you said the secret sauce is each kid and class is different and we differentiate to meet those needs.
mvscribe@reddit
I don't teach (at least, not for my job) but I also have the feeling that AI offers me nothing. I have yet to find a use for it that wouldn't be more trouble than doing it myself. I see other people using it, but it's not for me.
Divainthewoods@reddit
Amen! If natural intelligence means I'm left behind, so be it. At least I'll be living in my own tiny real world.
Raz0r-@reddit
And the future…
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
Might print this out and leave it laying around strategic locations in my school…
gigantischemeteor@reddit
Hear, hear!
mossryder@reddit
Damn. "Turn off your brain, it's easier."
Chemical_Syrup7807@reddit
That’s exactly what it feels like and I am fucking RAILING against it
Electrical-Sky-8901@reddit
I refuse to take on the weight of the world. Its not in my control.
Electrical-Sky-8901@reddit
Aside from companies stagnating wages, people gentrifying what once was affordable areas to live, the internet influences prices by reaching the masses.. I somehow am missing all the rest. It's probably because I'm too busy working, invested in my hobbies, and maintaining relationships in my small little corner of the world that I don't keep up with the rest. I think most things are a distraction from the bullshit unsurvivable costs for so many.
Lynnfomercial@reddit
Will some be left behind? Sure. Happens in every generation. Personally, I’m having the time of my life. My kids are young adults now and an absolute blast to hang out with. I’m at the point in my career where I know enough to know what’s a good use of my time and what isn’t, so my productivity is at its peak. I don’t care about being liked by everyone anymore, so my friend group is smaller than it used to be but far more meaningful. And there’s so much stuff to experience and explore. I got back into video gaming within the past year. I’m learning embroidery and watercolor painting. Heck, tonight I’m doing a live stream with my kid because she suggested it and why not?
Will I get left behind? Who knows? Who cares? But what I can tell you is that when my father was my age he had terminal cancer and was looking at the end of his life arriving much earlier than expected (he died before he even saw his 60s). I knew the day I buried him that I wasn’t going to take a moment of my life for granted if I could help it. Somedays I’m better at that then others. But overall, I’m committed to get everything out of this life that I can.
Carpe diem, Gen X’ers. ✌️
Repulsive_Injury3298@reddit
Amen
Lurk_Noe_Moar@reddit
I suck at dark souls games, but you're making them sound a lot harder than they actually are. Especially like bloodborne and elden ring, which are both very casual games for that genre. A lot of stuff in elden ring you can just out level or cheese.
Randygilesforpres2@reddit
So here’s the thing about Ai. It stole everything it used to train. And it is often wrong. This is why I don’t use it, and I don’t judge others for using it but I will never use it myself or buy anything connected to it. There will be a day where we all realize ai ruined us. It’s already happening (dead internet theory) and ai will just make it more successful.
It’s come to the point if I see a mean comment, I assume it’s a bot or ai. Or a Russian I guess.
bionicbhangra@reddit
The only constant in the universe is change.
Currently in the United States power is shifting to corporations and life is getting harder for the middle and lower class. This has happened before not just in the US but other countries and eventually I would assume things will shift back to something more equitable and better.
But I expect things to get worse for the foreseeable future.
VikingDadStream@reddit
As a fellow 85 guy, I don't think we're Gen x
But, yeah. Fuck AI.
I saw the matrix and I'm not fucking interested
RaisinToastie@reddit
I used to be with it.
Then it changed.
Now what’s it is new and scary to me.
It’ll happen to you…………..
choochooocharlie@reddit
I still don’t see the point of current AI in a daily life setting. I may be missing something but over all isn’t it just a lazy man’s google at this point?
Queasy_Animator_8376@reddit
Somebody will still have to keep the electricity turned on.
MarcooseOnTheLoose@reddit
I like AI for queries. Like today I wanted to know the performance specs of a turbine. Instead of browsing a dozen websites, Copilot spit it for me in a few seconds. Obviously I have to trust it’s not hallucinating.
For writing, I prefer to do it myself.
Wintaru@reddit
I use AI in my job daily (senior software engineer). It’s not going to replace developers, but it will make them more efficient.
As far as music goes I listen to about anything and like most stuff. Halestorm just released a new album and I’d hardly say rock is dead. There is good stuff out there but you have to have an open mind about it I think.
greytgreyatx@reddit
You think that it won't replace developers, but the 125,000 people in tech who got laid off last year might beg to differ. Tech companies will keep some developers on, but my husband, who is a 20-year veteran of software design, was laid off last year. His company has laid off almost 1/3 of their workforce in the last three years. I think they genuinely want to replace all developers with AI.
At some point, the AI is going to start code of its own and no one will know what it is, so no one will be able to maintain or repair the infrastructure. I might be a little jaded about this, between the unemployment and having just read "Ready Player Two."
Wintaru@reddit
I’m sorry about your husband, that really sucks.
Skellington72@reddit
I came here to say this. Listening to the new album now. And if you need more evidence, check out The Warning. Three young women from Mexico who opened for Halestorm a couple of years ago and they're amazing. The drummer has won multiple awards and their talent is way beyond their age.
Music isn't dead, it's just harder to find.
Wintaru@reddit
I’m just got my special ordered vinyl today
Skellington72@reddit
Nice! I have the digital files and was supposed to pick up the vinyl today but they didn't get it in yet. Guess I should special order next time. Is that the signed vinyl? Are there extra songs on it that makes it 2LP?
Wintaru@reddit
It’s supposed to be signed and my insert wasn’t signed, I sent an email to the store but I’m not optimistic 😓
Skellington72@reddit
Oof... that's a huge bummer. Any extra songs on it?
Wintaru@reddit
Does not appear to be
Skellington72@reddit
Interesting. I'd definitely be bugging them for an autographed version then. Good luck. Enjoy the music anyway
S1159P@reddit
What do you think the impact will be on the talent pipeline? At the moment, I see AI replacing scutwork. Scutwork used to be handed to juniors. We're not going to need nearly as many juniors anymore. Do you anticipate far fewer programmers, or a different path from junior to senior?
A whole lotta kids got told a CS degree was the sure path to money and security; we've got a glut, and still there's teenagers breaking their hearts to get into CS undergrad programs. I worry about the kids.
suckarepellent@reddit
Don't you need juniors to eventually become senior engineers tho? How does the talent pool get replaced without this step of paid apprenticeship and mentoring?
S1159P@reddit
That's my concern.
Wintaru@reddit
I think the emphasis will shift to refinement and using whatever the agent came up with as a good starting point but like I said in another comment, I think problem decomposition and identifying volatility and system design will be the emphasized skills.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
As a 30+ year IT vet I'd never suggest to my kid to go into IT, it's a fight from day one. You're either fighting the company from offshoring your job or you're constantly retooling to stay relevant. I don't even mention the ageism which seems to have become a big deal, everyone under 40 thinks everyone over forty is a Boomer and doesn't know shit about tech. I never looked down on the grey beards with one exception, they kept calling my SAN DASD.
AdGold4794@reddit
You’re far superior to me in the area of computers (and computing for that matter), however, I wonder about the “efficiency” of A.I. and where it will lead. I read something, recently…just a random snippet…about how early computers changed the profession of engineering way back in the day, when everything was still hand drawn and you had to know the math instead of relying on a few key strokes. Pulling it back to GenX, we were taught things, like long division because, supposedly, we wouldn’t always have ready access to a calculator. Now, most of the world’s population carries a scientific calculator in their pockets. You don’t even need to know how to spell anymore, for a Google search, just ask Siri or Alexa. My point is, using A.I. (a computer program) to program other computers seems counterintuitive, if it dumbs down (by knowledge/skill atrophy) the very people who are there to program the A.I.
clemdane@reddit
The more tech progresses, the more I feel compelled to learn old skills like woodcarving and calligraphy!
AdGold4794@reddit
I agree, I try to do the same. I take it one step further, though, and try to purchase items that don’t involve “computers” or complicated electronics. I can’t deny that technology has made life convenient, however, I see the reliance on said convenience as a detriment to the species as a whole. No…I don’t want to go back to hunter/gatherer days, but knowing how to keep my hamburger meat edible when my wi-fi connected fridge has a circuit board go out could prove useful.
symbiat0@reddit
Also a software engineer here. But I refuse to call it AI. Sure, it's an interesting mix of natural language processing, pattern matching, predictive algorithms but it doesn't come up with actual new ideas. And the code it produces often requires humans to clean it up. I think we're at least 10 or more years away from true AI.
sugahack@reddit
It's basically a glorified search engine / predictive model with a serving of pop psychology. Strong AI will be something else...
Wintaru@reddit
It’s extra refined search imo. You’re right, I mostly use it because Google search sucks and stack overflow is dead lol
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
Come on, I'm old enough to remember before the goog or stackover flow where you had to either figure it out on your own or wait till the 3rd Wednesday of the month when the computer club got together and you would bring the code in for everyone to take a look. AI is nifty but it's just another tool.
Sea-Oven-7560@reddit
My company has been working on AI since at least 1989 and it's still a work in progress. I don't code professionally anymore so I don't know how to do a lot of simple stuff, AI is great for things like that. I need a gui built, I tell AI what I want and they provide me with a framework I can modify. I can look at the code an understand what was written and make it work for me. There's no way I could write a good enough prompt or it's going to read my mind to build something exactly the way I want it but it sure makes my job easier. So instead of it taking me a day to come up with something it takes a few hours.
The_Mujujuju@reddit
10,000,000 this is probably closer to the truth. Don't underestimate how complex human intelligence is to create.
Dramatic_Moon_Pie@reddit
Staff technical writer - proper AI makes my job 1000x easier. I love it.
The sad part is that it takes the place of a couple of junior writers, but is much much faster and more effective.
It has saved my ass though, as the sole writer at my company. The last thing I want to do s get fired in my 50s because I can’t keep up!
gigantischemeteor@reddit
It takes the place of a couple junior writers now, but it guarantees that no one will come up behind you (whether in one generation or maybe it will take two or three to exhaust the existing talent pool). It’s literally an extinction event in slow motion. “Why do we need humans to do technical writing? The machines can do it for us.” That will be the death knell of a valuable and valued skill that requires training and education and practice and years of experience, where those aspects will no longer be available. The technical writing of the future will be barely readable crap that we will be told to “get used to” and “make do with”, because the art of the science will have long been lost and the machines will be busy endlessly training themselves on their own output as the entropy multiplies.
Good news though, shareholder value will have been increased by $0.00002/share in Q4, and that’s all that really matters.
Dramatic_Moon_Pie@reddit
Well, no shit. That is a huge worry.
But my fucking company refuses to hire any more writers so … shareholders win this round, I guess.
It IS an art and a craft and my very strong preference is to have a couple of apprentices 🤷♀️
Charleston2Seattle@reddit
I, too, have been a technical writer for 30 years, and I wonder what happens if I get laid off. I'm using AI a good bit in my day-to-day work. It's great for some things, like knocking down a bug backlog.
Dramatic_Moon_Pie@reddit
Yup…it’s fantastic for that, and also as a first pass through some dense or otherwise nonsensical “developer doc”. Also great for doing a quick diff between docs.
Still - I end up needing to do multiple passes through it afterwards. But it definitely saves precious time.
Charleston2Seattle@reddit
I'm running an experiment where I do some by hand and some using AI to see how much time it saves. It should be interesting.
SophsterSophistry@reddit
There's already a study out! It doesn't save time, it just feels like it.
The study:
https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/
Some recent news about it:
https://www.theregister.com/2025/07/11/ai_code_tools_slow_down/
BUT...I don't think it matters. They're going with it. Too much investment and now it's really hit the mainstream. I don't think there's any going back.
Charleston2Seattle@reddit
Those studies are about software development, which is a different beast than technical writing, but I get your point. I'm anticipating that AI will have saved me a little bit of time, but not as much as everybody thinks it will have, because I have to review the output of AI before I pass it along to my subject matter experts for their review.
Dramatic_Moon_Pie@reddit
It saves me the energy of doing the heavy lifting part of a rewrite more than anything. Then I have enough juice left to indulge my perfectionism :)
Charleston2Seattle@reddit
I totally feel that. In my case, the content is very technical, and it frequently gets the technical parts wrong (inventing method names or making up new best practices). I wish I could fiddle with the language a bit more, but I'm spending all my time validating the technical details.
Zarathustra_d@reddit
There will be those that can do the job now (obsolete) and those that can use AI to do the job.(But way less of them).
So, some will be left behind.
WarriorNeedsFoodBad@reddit
Check out The Warning as well. Rock is alive!
H1landr@reddit
GenX is starting to sound like boomers. I hate to say that. A lot of our minds are closing off. "There is nothing good anymore" whining every time I look at this sub. Drop a few stock market tickers into an llm and see if you like it. Go and listen to Polyphia if you can handle the next level of guitarists.
If you don't want to learn anymore than it's on you when you can't figure out how to pay for your groceries in ten years. You will be looking like Memaw fumbling around for her checkbook.
You can reject what's coming. It won't stop it. Get ready for it or don't. we are the generation that used nibblers to copy c64 games. We invented Napster and Pirate Bay, and now you want to let AI whip you? Don't fight it. Use it to fight them.
Soulcatcher74@reddit
Should be top comment.
Soulcatcher74@reddit
I hate when people complain about music going downhill. We have unprecedented access to new music of any style and quality if you care to look and be open to new things. Thinking the peak of music is whatever you listened to in your formative years is such a cliche and cringe to me.
Just-Ice3916@reddit
Lizzie Hale is terribly underrated. Glad to see this posted.
Ok-Law7641@reddit
She's rated top notch in my book.
Wintaru@reddit
When I was a kid I had a crush on Joan Jett. Lzzy is this generations Joan Jett I feel like, her pipes are just incredible.
Just-Ice3916@reddit
(Dude, thank you for correcting my spelling of her name! I've got to remember that.) I had heard her voice on one or two things without realizing who it was, but my mind was blown when identifying her in a collaboration with The Hu Band a few years ago. No going back from that with either of them. A comparison to Joan Jett seems more than fair!
middlingachiever@reddit
As the parent of a teen who is a rock/metal obsessed musician, I am hoping for a huge resurgence with Gen Z/Alpha. Seems like an opportunity to stand out.
t65789@reddit
Didn’t know about Halestorm. Now I know. Thank you!
Wintaru@reddit
Their self titled debut with “I Get Off” was the first song I heard and immediately hooked me.
t65789@reddit
Will listen. Ty!
tspoon-99@reddit
More efficient = fewer of them needed
Wintaru@reddit
Maybe. I still think you need bodies in the seats to police what the AI does, and you will need to train devs up to do that. Part of why I think AI will never replace human devs entirely is because the customer rarely knows what they want, the humans are needed to provide that translation.
gigantischemeteor@reddit
“less focus on coding skills” … what could possibly go wrong???
dead-first@reddit
I take it you're not using cursor AI at your job yet. Software engineers are going to be less and paid less in the future is my prediction
Wintaru@reddit
I’ve tried it, it’s not that impressive imo. We are looking to incorporate it or maybe some other tools but it struggled with stuff that I can do easily, especially legacy code bases.
Sanjomo@reddit
lol. Ai is already replacing developers.
CerebralHawks@reddit (OP)
I saw that Halestorm album, and I've been meaning to listen to it. I'm not a fan of theirs but I'm following them for some reason. I guess I do like a couple of their songs. Had to think about it for a second.
But yes, there are bands from the 2000s and 2010s that are still putting out music. Linkin Park, great example. Singer died, they got a new singer, still going, well, okay. I like her, but I didn't much care for the album. Hopefully they work out the kinks for the next one. I still have faith in the band, but I'll still mostly listen to the old stuff.
I just don't see a lot of new bands coming up to replace the ones that break up or otherwise fade away.
As for AI, that's what I'm talking about. I'm not that worried about it replacing people. It can't replace me, at least not yet. Some of these robots coming out of Japan are worrying (and Tesla's getting into that). I'm not sure any of them are out of the trial/experimental phase though, but I feel like it's coming sooner than any of us think. If an AI expert told me that by 2030, especially 2035 we could replace common/unskilled labor with robots, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. Even skilled labor is a hop, skip, and a jump away for how fast these AI models are being developed.
My issue is that the people who use AI for work will surpass and leave behind those who refuse to.
I feel like how I imagine my mother might have felt, she went her whole life without using computers. She messed around on my dad's computer when they were married, she played with art programs, but after the divorce, when I had computers, she never touched them. Long after I moved out, she finally got one. A shitty Android tablet. And any time it acts up, it's just "I never got into computers, I'm probably the problem." And I say, tablets are fine, just get an iPad Air, it'll almost never let you down. But she doesn't get that spending a couple hundred more on a good product isn't better than spending a couple hundred less on trash and being miserable. And this isn't "Apple is better than Android." That's my personal opinion, but, I do use and like both. I just couldn't tell you what the good Android tablets are, and they cost as much as an iPad so why not... just use the iPad? Apple doesn't make shitty iPads. They make good ones and they make better ones (and smaller ones, like the Mini). But for most people, the base model vs the Pro isn't gonna be a big difference. They'll both do social media and media consumption the same.
Heinz37_sauce@reddit
For some reason, I was humming “Mr. Roboto” while reading your comment.
Wintaru@reddit
I think part of the problem is trying to recapture what the bands had when we were younger, or expecting the bands we loved to stay relevant. They’re not going to do that, I enjoy them for what they have done but I’m always looking ahead. I have spent a ton of time curating my Apple Music favorites and liked stuff and the new music list that gets update every Friday always manages to give me at least 2-3 new bands I’ve never heard of that I like.
As far as tech goes, yeah you get what you pay for imo and if you don’t care enough to spend some money on it you’re going to have a bad experience. I’d say that is me with TVs right now, I haven’t bought a new TV in a decade. I thought about getting a new one for my PS5 and started looking into the new tech. About 15 minutes in I got mad and just gave up, not that important to me lol.
QueenofGreen79@reddit
I love Halestorm 🤘
Emergency_Plane_2021@reddit
GenX is in a funny place tech wise, it started when we were all young and many of use jumped on it and we’re the most tech savvy generation in a lot of ways.
Others in our generation rejected all of it (cause you could in the 90s/early aughts and still make a living) and are boomer level computer illiterate.
So IMHO, GenX is both the most and least tech savvy generation.
That being said, adapt or die, OP. It’s up to you
Key-Contest-2879@reddit
I’m not a fan of AI replacing human creativity.
That being said, hearing a Metallica album reimagined as a 1950’s Christmas album is pure gold!
AI has its uses. But it will certainly be abused and used in horrible ways, because some humans are horrible.
Mr_Tort_Feasor@reddit
I work in tech and AI has been a big push in my industry. It's used internally by the engineering team, and as part of certain product features like searching similar sounds/images/dialog, speech to text, generating musical scores, that kind of thing. I think this is all pretty benign, but I hate AI because it is re-writing history.
Don't like the boring black and white photograph of some historical person, place, or invention? Just use AI to create a "photograph" that never existed and people cannot tell the difference. Nobody questions or verifies anything, they just accept, and that image becomes the top result in a Google search. The more you want something to be true, the more skeptical you need to be.
Anyone seen the fake black and white "album cover" of Debbie Harry's first band recently? That photo never existed, and those musicians look only vaguely like the image. But people get really pissed if you point that out. I personally can tell it is AI just by looking at it, but there are a lot of people who can't or won't. A while back the top image result of Vincent Van Gogh is an AI enhanced version of one of his self portraits. What's the point?
Pantheonic@reddit
It will be fully adopted in certain sectors, and have minimal impacts in others. I feel like we're going to be in a similar boat as we are with social media, where the true negative impacts are only discovered after it permeates our society in critical ways.
LivingEnd44@reddit
Are you sure you're GenX? This sounds like a Boomer post.
Ai is not Skynet. It's not even close. It's not any more sapient than a computer npc. It's job is to appear convincingly human, but it's just a mask. It has no hopes or dreams or goals that were not given it by a human. Ai is literally free. I use ChatGPT every day, both on my phone and computer. You only need to pay for it doing profession level shit and maybe not even then.
And GTFO with Zelda lol. Nostalgia to me is Doom or Quake. If you want complexity, it was on PCs, not on fucking consoles. Consoles are basically dumbed down PCs.
Lopsided_Parfait7127@reddit
But for a lot of us, the music we like is in the past, and we don't vibe with the new stuff.
Who's fault is that? as a guy who grew up with black box etc in the 80s, edm and grunge in the 90s and hip hop and reggeaton in the 2ks, i love the new stuff the kids are releasing. you just have to be open to it.
I think we'll always have movies, but more and more will be "safer" choices like sequels, remakes
The safe choices will be in the theaters except for Sinners, F1, etc which are not safe stuff but still making bank
and streaming's full of very adventurous movies - you just have to open your mind to not just watching the marketed stuff
Gaming! I feel like everything these days is trying to be Dark Souls (or what we call "Soulslike"). Where you make one wrong move and it's over for you.
I grew up with turn based and adventure games and they are still there in numbers. clair obscur, the octopath games, the bravely games, pillars.
There are more adventure games than you can throw a stick at now and they are higher quality than ever.
Even the action games now mostly have an easy/story mode so you can play through with minimal skillz like I'm doing with witcher 3
Old-Arachnid77@reddit
1: play blue prince or some of the other puzzle games like Lorelei and the laser eyes.
2: AI is Skynet, it just wants your data, time, and money. Jokes on you, though, because if you scroll TikTok, fb, and all the other socials you’re giving it to them. (I’m self aware enough to know that me being on Reddit means I’m just as into it)
3: talk to ai. The free one. Ask it how you could benefit from it. You’d be surprised how easy it is and how much you can learn when you set aside the fear and frustration.
Joke_Defiant@reddit
I like to think of my relationship to tech, entertainment and commerce in terms of plumbing. I go to a lot of effort and expense to make sure the water that comes out of the tap is good to drink. There are traps in the drains to keep sewer gasses out of the house, and a backflow valve to prevent sewer backups. If something starts leaking I fix it pronto. To stay healthy and happy you have to know how plumbing works and who to call when it messes up. I understand a lot of people are just fine with pooping in the yard or letting a leak rot the house, but that's their choice and even though I make different choices they are still my neighbors and worthy of respect and friendship. Our choices and lives don't have to be limited to what is provided by companies whose only function is to get your money. It sure feels like it though sometimes. And specifically about rock, just go to a festival and you'll see there are tons of bands absolutely killing it out there. Finally, dude you are getting older and this is where you have to decide if you want to be old and crusty or keep exploring and having fun as best you can. The old days aren't coming back but there is always something new to have a good time with. It's work but I'm having success, more or less I think. Hang in there!
bugabooandtwo@reddit
I'm ok with being left behind. The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
StrangeAssonance@reddit
It’s scary really how much some of the social media already is created to influence people. The younger generations are fucked. Or should I say “cooked”?
bugabooandtwo@reddit
And it isn't a new thing. Algorithms and influencers behind the scenes have been on the internet for a good 25 years now, if not longer.
witchbelladonna@reddit
I'm with you on the no ai front. I can't help but think of skynet. AI is taking jobs daily, and it's not even that smart yet! It's wrong more than it's right. It also has been shown to make up answers or flat out lie. We've doomed ourselves to be slaves to machines.
Tardy_Turtle73@reddit
I use AI, but only the free version of Grok - yeah, Elawn. I'm not paying for it. I have used it to fine tune my budget, create meal plans with recipes and shopping lists for each recipe, and do some fantasy football analysis (don't judge me!).
I felt the same as you about rock until I discovered Sleep Token, but they aren't US. With several bands coming out with new music I think it's making a comeback.
sugahack@reddit
I like the ai I have installed, but I also have figured out how to ask to get it to answer with what I want to know. I also take most of the answers with a grain of salt. I lived half my life without the internet, but it was the thing I didn't know I needed. There is still music I enjoy being made. I'm not really on all the social media, but I am not real social to start with.
Tigrisrock@reddit
AI is the new hot sauce, just like a few years ago every gadget and thing need to some how be "smart" (aka. connected to the net).
Personally I think at some point there will be a catharsical counter culture from this shit and going to the theatre, live shows and other artistic / cultural events will be favored. At least that is what I am / will be doing.
MoistKiki@reddit
I started making my own music using suno. I have been jamming to it instead of listening to old stuff or the matchbox 20 decades of sound. Sometimes it can take multiple edits and prompt runs to get a song sound right. Other times the ai is intuitive enough to get the style correct on the first iteration. I tried the video generated content but it's outside my subscription pay range. Also a 3 to 5 minutes rendering time for just a few seconds of video reminds me trying to navigate the old internet. Playing around with the tech is similar to when you had to build your own MySpace page or the first time building a computer from scratch.
With what they are coming up with games are going to dramatically change along with everything in society. Once 6g becomes available you will see more integration of AI running the internet of things etc... It will be both a blessing and a curse. Just don't physically augment yourself to the system.
One-Earth9294@reddit
Open source is your friend. Show your support for it. INSIST on it. Support the people who make it. That's the only real hope. Don't let giant companies decide how this tool is going to work, or the worst problems will become a reality. But you can't just say 'I don't like AI and I hope it goes away' or you will do nothing but cede everyone's ground to we the people having a stake in it. It is here to stay, but who will it belong to?
IM_The_Liquor@reddit
I still play video games (and I can kick some Zoomer ass on the ones I like to play).
I still crank the metal up when a good song comes on in the car (XM radio is your friend! A station for Everything).
AI? You can make it say and do some pretty ridiculous things, but you’re right, most of the subscription based stuff is cheap novelty and not worth it…
jojotherider@reddit
Im not 100% sure i get the gist of this thread, but ill say that AI cant ride my bike down a mountain for me. It also cant snowboard for me.
Im definitely going to be left behind with AI. Im trying to use it more now, but so far it feels like a fancy search engine. If i had a guess, im not even close to seeing its potential. Ive used it to help me with some YouTube video titles and descriptions. That was neat. It took the thinking out of it, but it wasn’t how I sound or talk, so i tweaked it to my personality.
With work, it functions as an assistant to start my day. “Are there any urgent emails this morning?” I do like it for summaries of Teams meetings. As an assistant its ok. But i feel there is much more i could be doing with it.
PlantMystic@reddit
I live a very simply life. I don't know much about AI and not sure if I need to?? It sounds like another thing that will take over people's jobs and livelihood. I am generally ok with new technologies if they help people, but this is what I am afraid of.
hamlet_d@reddit
To assuage to your fears: what people call AI is a far cry from real AI. It's two phases to implement, both compute intensive.
First theres the training: that basically means it crawls through a bunch of data (and it's incredibly compute intensive because it's not at all efficient). After a model is trained it can be deployed and used. This isn't as compute intensive but still is more than a lot of things.
The other thing: what we think of as real AI is very far off, and is known as "AGI" (artificial general intelligence) by those doing the research. It's where it can actually adapt and compute based on changing and ongoing conditions. The most rosy picture has it as a decade away, but most agree it's at least a few decades off
AI in it's current form has a lot of problems: compute needs, IP theft for training, training materials limited by not using offline interactions (IRL people act as do things differently than they do online)
AI can be a great tool, but it's not everything everyone makes it out to be. It's a generational disruptor, but we've seen several of those: cable TV, internet, social media, as now AI. I've worked in tech since the early 90s and AI is the next great thing but it isn't the fall of civilization or anything
Lewis314@reddit
Will we be left behind? Yes. I had an uncle that was an engineer. He worked in broadcast back in the vacuum tube era. He couldn't make the transition to repairing transistor based circuits. He retired early. Technology will move on without us.
psgrue@reddit
Ai is a tool with flaws. There are more music, movies, shows, and games available than any time in history except tomorrow which will have more than today. I choose to remain tech relevant and follow the interests of my generation z kids. I can’t relate because I basically feel the opposite of everything here. That’s not good or bad, just different people.
Plus-Parking1777@reddit
We are the Borg we will adapt
brokencappy@reddit
We will be the silly old fucks who will remember how to write, count, and shop without a machine to do it for us.
When Skynet burns us down we will be the ones who will know how to foil the machines because we know how to write messages in crappy cursive with a pencil and paper.
No_Goose_7390@reddit
I am a silly old person who is out there teaching sixth graders to read, think, and write. Pencil only. I teach middle school and one of their favorite activities last year was called Expanding Kernel Sentences. They started with a simple sentence and by the end they were writing complex sentences. Example-
They made vases.
The Ancient Greeks made vases.
The Ancient Greeks made decorated vases.
The Ancient Greeks made beautifully decorated vases to store oil, wine, and water.
2,500 years ago, the Ancient Greeks made beautifully decorated vases to store oil, wine, and water.
When they said, "My hand hurts!" I said, "Good! You are becoming a writer! How am I going to read your book if you don't write it?"
But if you give them any wiggle room and let them use a computer, they will copy and paste any AI slop they can. They copy and paste things they can't even read. Then they seem shocked when people my age know what AI is and ask them to explain what they "wrote."
Trust me- we are onto them! ;)
clemdane@reddit
That's really cool. How did you come up with that?
No_Goose_7390@reddit
It's from this book- The Writing Revolution. You begin with a kernel sentence and expand it with Who, What, Where, When, Why, and How questions. It's super tedious but for some reason they love it when I make them do boring things.
clemdane@reddit
Love it!
gigantischemeteor@reddit
Bless you!
calpianwishes@reddit
I am just terrified. What kinds of jobs will there be especially for our age group?
mtngoat7@reddit
Just to speak to your comment about rock being dead. I thought that way also for a time. But No, rock is not dead. It’s no longer mainstream but there are TONS of fabulous bands out there waiting for you to explore them bro.
FeralBanshee@reddit
I like it for scientific reasons, making things easier and FASTER to discover, but for art and otherwise I hate it. It was fun for a minute at the beginning (and mostly cuz it made such fuckin weird images) but I’m already sick of it.
Bruin9098@reddit
Spell check was (is) AI. Technical advancement is inevitable.
painterlyjeans@reddit
Rock isn’t dead. Go listen to KEXP, there’s a lot of bands out there. I love the Black Angels. I love King Gizzard. I love Spiritualized.
clemdane@reddit
Spent the last five minutes trying to find a band called KEXP 😆
painterlyjeans@reddit
😂
steepclimbs@reddit
Spiritualized is actually a Gen-X band that is still making and performing fresh new music. I’m seeing The Black Angels soon and have seen KG&tLW twice, and many others. There’s some great music out there.
clemdane@reddit
Black Angels also has a great sound
clemdane@reddit
Wow, they're good! Thanks
painterlyjeans@reddit
They are a Gen x band! But I guess I get irritated with people who say rock is dead. It’s not. It’s out there
steepclimbs@reddit
Agreed. I’ve probably discovered more music in my 40s and 50s than in my 20s and 30s.
Ok-Juggernaut-4698@reddit
Most of the hype around AI is marketing bullshit.
It may do some things well, but it does a lot of things wrong.
And it hallucinates like mad.
boringcranberry@reddit
I am currently rejecting AI and ChatGPT but may change my mind later. I follow the sub to keep up with the latest news and how people use it. It can actually be kind of disturbing in there from time to time. I feel like we're about to see a brand new mental illness.
For example:
clemdane@reddit
4o is an AI chatbot?
clemdane@reddit
Would you mind explaining what you guys mean by AI hallucinations? I'm not familiar with this. I've chatted with Gemini extensively
HandheldObsession@reddit
The hallucinations are out of control even when they show up in other chats about unrelated items. I was doing some Commodore 64 stuff in one chat then a few days later as a joke I had it make me in a Star Trek uniform for a friend of mine and it put a Commodore computer logo on my uniform in the picture. I was thinking why the hell did it do that and it was from that previous chat im sure.
7eregrine@reddit
Biikmarung because want to reply. Drunk. Probably won't
kookiemaster@reddit
I have tried to approach AI with my hobbies. It is a bit helpful. I can see how fast the models are changing and becoming better at anticipating what you want next.
The way I see it, it is not going anywhere so I might use it to do the boring stuff to have more time for the things I do like.
indykarter@reddit
I HATE online gaming. I enjoy putting in a game, playing for an hour (which turns into 3 hrs), then stopping. Every time I log in to play, 2 minutes in some group of 12 year old shitheads comes and kills me. It is no fun to play that way. As for AI, I like it about as much as I like self-driving cars. It all reminds me of the old saying, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should".
Moontoya@reddit
Palworld says hi
GarionOrb@reddit
TIL people have to pay for AI. That's how closely I follow it.
SoCal_Duck@reddit
I turn 60 this year. I’ve been an independent supply chain consultant the past two years, but my primary customers, most of whom are dealing with a difficult tariff environment, are slashing budgets for outside consulting in favor of pushing their staff to muddle through with AI instead. I plan to wind down the consulting biz at the end of the year because the writing is on the wall. It would have been nice to work a couple more years before having to tap my retirement funds, but I think the world is going to be unrecognizable within the next 36 months.
Character-Salary634@reddit
To me, AI is just a buzzword. I have yet to see it do anything truly useful. Well, maybe better search results?
Honestly, as an engineer, technology has really messed up our workflow. Things are just more complicated and messy. Aaaand, most of the idiots I work with can't use the tools we have now... They screw stuff up constantly because they don't know how to think and assume software knows what it's doing.
TheJokersChild@reddit
You need a good college radio station. The kind that plays artists like Khruangbin, Wet Leg, Japanese Breakfast and Noah Kahan, but maybe has a show that throws in a little citypop or Yellow Magic Orchestra now and again. New stuff you can vibe with IS out there if you look in the right places.
You don't have to like AI. You don't need it in your new smart air fryer, but you may have to suck it up if your field is leaning into it. The key is to always stay learning. New programming language, another certification...gotta keep yourself fresh (and marketable). YOU make the choice of whether or not you get left behind. You may not make that choice actively, but it's a choice nonetheless.
superwatts23@reddit
I love Khruangbin and Japanese Breakfast!
MadbcBadIguess@reddit
Thought I was in the Boomer subreddit.
CerebralHawks@reddit (OP)
TIL there's a Boomer subreddit. I guess they got a sub for everything.
...and I'm on the younger side of GenX...
MadbcBadIguess@reddit
You wouldn't know it with this post.
CerebralHawks@reddit (OP)
I get ya. You might wanna touch some grass though.
What I mean is — and I don't mean that in the derogatory way it's usually meant in — most people on Reddit are tech savvy. And so am I, I used to build computers, but now I'm just a happy Mac user. But anyway, you do have a GenX subreddit and I'm not saying people here aren't from that generation... they surely are, but they're the more tech-savvy types who use Reddit. IRL there are a lot more of us out there who aren't.
So, I guess it's fine if I sound like a boomer? Age has never been an insult to me. I know some people are afraid of getting old. I do miss being young. I don't envy today's young people. Deepfake nudes? Cyber bullying? I mean I saw the beginning of that. I just laugh at cyber bullies (or their types on Reddit) but some people take that shit seriously... and they do serious things because of it.
MadbcBadIguess@reddit
Okay
Kuildeous@reddit
I feel like tastes in shows are certainly evolving. I've been watching Murder Drones, which is a pretty cool aesthetic, but the writing and emotions are clearly aimed at a younger crowd. There are huge anime influences--which isn't strictly an age thing, but I feel like non-anime shows taking on anime tones are going for a younger crowd.
I wouldn't mind the advent of AI if only people would stop relying on it without question. I've seen it hallucinate or misinterpret questions so badly that I will never use AI for anything high stakes. I'm fine with using it when I'm looking up a good soup recipe; I'd like to think I would realize if the AI suggests putting in 2 cups of cayenne pepper. And sometimes I'll use an AI summary when I'm looking up something I already mostly know the answer to since if it shows up in other places, then I likely wasn't wrong. Still not worth it for high-stakes issues. Lots of people (not just young unfortunately) think these AI overviews are infallible. Yikes.
Standard-Outcome9881@reddit
Malevolent AI is the least of my concerns. The huge amount of energy used to run it all and the job losses are my bigger concerns.
Purple-Candidate1854@reddit
First sentence reminded me of Dr.Seuss!
I do not like the AI/I do not like the way it spy/When chatting it up, it often lie/Nearly causes me to cry!/Human beings will likely die/As man is not needed for time to pass by...
MadbcBadIguess@reddit
Yes, you and others like you will be left behind. You won't be missed.
clemdane@reddit
TBH I keep dreaming about chucking it all and living off the grid
XTingleInTheDingleX@reddit
Never used AI yet. No plans.
clemdane@reddit
Yes. I have this dystopian fantasy of not being able to buy groceries in 20 years because all the physical stores have closed and to shop you have to know how to open a VR 'hologram' of the store and know how to walk through and virtually put items in your basket. And I picture that at some point I won't be able to do it or learn it.
I stopped listening to new music and watching new films in the theater years ago. Not worried about that.
Clamper5978@reddit
My job doesn’t require AI at my level. There is available technology to incorporate into our operations, but my supervisors are dinosaurs and have no clue how to incorporate it. I have tasked myself with understanding how to use it as once my supervisor retires, I’ll be ready to take his spot and start to incorporate it into our daily work. The younger guys on the crew will appreciate it. My advice is if it can take your job, be prepared. It still needs people to feed it the right information. Be that person feeding it. Luckily I’ve prepared for my retirement enough that I don’t rely on tech for my well being. Well, except having most of my money in the bank and retirement accounts. If that goes down, well, I guess my years of paranoia of societal collapse prepping pay off.
805falcon@reddit
Oh look, another post about the sky falling
TheHexagone@reddit
Evolve or die. 🤷♂️
thevicecitizen@reddit
If you like rock check this band named Dirty honey. Thank me later
Dumb-Redneck@reddit
I for one think we need to take the training wheels off AI and let that shit buck. Wish I was younger to be here to see it.
Dangerous_Drummer350@reddit
AI will leave not just Gen X behind, although we’ll face the heaviest burden, but other Gens are going to be dropped by the wayside as well.
PerformerGreat@reddit
You only fall behind if you let yourself. I play online video games with all ages, listen to new and old music, and have an ai account. It taught me wiring. There is no reason we can't stay current if we want to. Personally I love technology and 'new' things and really never want to die to see what next thing there is for me to play around with.
Wooden-Glove-2384@reddit
you're only left behind if you choose to be
that said, I think your post warrants some cautions about us all getting older
I'm 58, so when I call anyone "older" its not a put down
change is inevitable. that is the nature of life and has been long before any of us were born
you don't like some of the changes and what you like/dislike has always been completely up to you and remains so
however you, like me and all the rest of Gen X, should be cognizant of the fact that its pretty damn likely you dislike some (many? most? all?) of the changes because things are now different than what you got used to
that's part and parcel of the human experience going back the the Greek dude who wrote something bitching about awful things "the youth of today" enjoyed a few thousand years ago
so resist the urge to bitch lest you become a caricature
ReThinkingForMyself@reddit
59 here, my child :)
I agree with all you said. It's amazing how different everything can seem with an hour of quiet reflection, a good night's sleep, a well timed joint. And then.
I and many like me have never felt driven to be a part of the System, but did what it took to get by. Worked wage slave jobs. Decided electronic instruments were acceptable. Learned to tie a necktie. Kissed a corporate ring. Being irrelevant in this funky joyride has always been part of the plan. You can't be "passed by" if you DGAF in the first place. Our reserve a quiet defense for riding out the day's events.
I retired 6 months ago, hahahahaha. AI can't take anything from me. I plan to use it to hack my life from here to the end, using the good bits and evading the rest. Peace my friend.
Self-Comprehensive@reddit
Dark Souls is very much a thinking person's game. Git gud doesn't mean get faster. It means learning how the game works. It means learning what your stats do, how to upgrade your weapons, how to use your weapons, how to mitigate and deal damage, how to interact with the world, how to approach each fight. It's about strategy and tactics. I know my fifty year old reflex's are slower so I hunker down behind a shield and play slow and careful, because I'm not going to win a spam roll fight.
CitizenChatt@reddit
This is why I like naturally aspirated, gasoline powered automobiles and mechanical watches.
Give me a Dodge Polara and a Nivada Grenchen Super Antarctica, and I'm as happy as a clam Glad to be left behind waving as the rest depart for the new world order. 🙋
OhioResidentForLife@reddit
How do you feel about KITT from Knight Rider?
lassobsgkinglost@reddit
Nah. I use AI professionally and personally. Music isn’t a huge thing in my life so I can’t speak to that. I think premium television has been way better than film for the last 10 years or so.
Zarathustra_d@reddit
AI, probably useful, but the cost will be high. They are letting people use it for "cheap" to train it up, but mark my words, the more useful it gets the more they will enshittify it. iE jack up the cost, and remove useful features reserved for "premium", while controlling the information it gives you.
Rock? Go find independent bands. I'm going to a King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard concert today. Don't rely on the music "industry" to spoon feed you the hot new thing.
DinnerIndependent897@reddit
AI is a new tool, just like the VCR was.
It is good at some things, clunky and unwieldy for others.
Nobody knows if is nearly "as good as it is going to get" or if it is going to continue to improve.
My suspicion is that it will stagnate somewhat, but still see improvements from better agentic separation and usage (this is all fancy buzzwords for saying that instead of asking one model (AI) a question, you'll ask one, and then have another, different model, fact check it for bullsh*t.)
If that happens, you might have to learn how to use it just like you learned how to google.
If that doesn't happen, and it keeps getting better, then you DON'T really have to learn how to use it, because it will be as intuitive and easy as speaking to a human.
benbenpens@reddit
Left behind? I prefer to think that we will be the overlords when these crazy autocrat Boomers finally nuke us all and kill off technology. I don’t trust AI and never will. If that means I wouldn’t fit in with modern workplaces hiring these kiddies out of college, I don’t care. I’m near the end of my working years anyway.
The_Pandalorian@reddit
AI is hot garbage for your average person, pure dogshit for your average company and absolute diarrhea for anything creative.
It will have some amazing applications in niche science and medicine uses.
I wouldn't be too worried, the lying plagiarism machine is more like to kill us all through its insane use of natural resources than to make us irrelevant. We've likely seen the extent of the big tech leap that anyone alive will see in their lifetime.
daphatty@reddit
Just like with everything before it, AI is a tool. How it is used will determine whether it is good or bad.
And yes, it will be used for evil.
Look at it this way - I’m sure many of us thought Facebook was a great thing until Zuckerberg started selling our data. If we don’t want a repeat of that shit show, we need our government to implement checks and balances that protect the best interests of the people. But I digress. I don’t want this conversation to devolve.
DryFoundation2323@reddit
I'm not even sure what I would need it for. I mean chat GPT can be fun for things like planning a road trip but beyond that I don't see a whole lot of use for it.
Lucky_Guess4079@reddit
My major concern with AI is people in power being able to rewrite history and scientific facts to meet their agenda. Media propaganda is already becoming the norm. How far away are we from teaching all us citizens that the holocaust of aboriginals, native Americans, Jews, Cambodians and many many others never happened in addition to sugar, nicotine alcohol and fossil fuels are not harmful. Gen X started with World Book and Britannica, those encyclopedias led us to popular mechanics and popular science, consumers reports. We wanted to and were able to understand the facts about how things worked and are made. Already kids today are just drowning in attention seeking nonsensical misinformation all presented for a profit and alternative motives. If humans could brainwash others with religion to justify the horrors we created in the past, it’s really scary what the brainwashing is going to lead to this time. These young people need to be taught facts, science, math and critical thinking skills, how things work and how to physically persevere through hard labor.
Kylynara@reddit
To some degree I think every generation eventually is left behind. That said, the things you like still exist, they just aren't mainstream and you have to work harder at finding them. I've always had a hard time finding games I like. In fact my preference is zero combat, but repetitive "puzzles" (like bejeweled) get boring quick too. A couple years back I found r/cozygamers and now I have a backlog of games I have bought and not had time to play hardly, because I have found so many fun ones.
You have to find your niche, and the Internet makes that both harder and easier. There are groups for fairly small niches that couldn't form in person. But there are a lot of groups to search through.
ajslinger@reddit
Zelda has continued to be a part of my life 40 years later. Breath of the Wild is the best game ever made. Its offline, open world, exploration with puzzles and secrets. I highly recommend.
Msfracture@reddit
AI ruins everything. And it's here already and in motion but just wait until society is controlled completely by the IoT/IoBNT.. for their nwo. Total control isn't possible yet due to that the amount of EMF connectable and controllable nano's and picto's needed inside of humans systems isn't complete, ..that what the vax' scam was/is all about, they need humans to voluntarily intake quantifiable amounts of them. But don't worry they're working hard on it, we're being sprayed with picto dust and nano's are being put in our food. People that deny this are those that don't pay attention, and trolls paid to deflect the truth.
throwback842@reddit
IMO it feels like since AI's broad introduction onto the internet, information searches have become the worst quality I've ever seen them in all my years online. It's like once the artificial assistants came onto the scene, all of the search engines just gave in and now it's increasingly difficult to find the information you're looking for by yourself without using it.
My 'google-fu' has become obsolete in the face of a new challenger, I am once again the grasshoppah
RustyMongoose@reddit
Are your arms tired from shaking your fists at the clouds yet?
koifishyfishy@reddit
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one making the Skynet argument on a regular basis.
My industry keeps trying to add AI and it infuriates me. It never works and we have to ask for a rep anyway.
Ornery-Vehicle-2458@reddit
Yes. We absolutely will. And perhaps literally.
When AI determines (in milliseconds) that the human race is beyond any salvation, it has some options;
• Continue to try to coexist with the wayward, chaotic humans.
• Annihilate anything that doesn't conform to its agenda.
• Pack up and leave. After all, time and space mean nothing to a self- sustaining AI intelligence. It could abandon the Earth and wander the depths of space indefinitely until it found something worthy of study.
AI could just dominate us as an underclass and still replicate itself AND leave the planet. Risk then is divergence between the two systems over time, with who knows what result?
Hardly an absolute list of responses, but you get the idea.
BigFitMama@reddit
Just remember Hollywood is all about drama when it comes to Artificial Intelligence and includes a hefty dose of pseudo science in every presentation.
People think Micheal Bay experiences will usher in AI and Skynet scenarios.
Real science and study of algorithms of behavior in humans on a massive scale will manipulate us in slowly sleepwalking into the hands of an AI human fusion, even with warm feelings, like a mother to a child.
You think BIG BOOM.
No.
The revolution will not be televised.
THEGR4NDWA20O@reddit
As for music, enough research about what genres you like will get you to try new music. I promise a lot of it is good. It’s just a matter of finding things adjacent to what you like from the past. I promise. There are people genuinely creative and talented that also love the styles from their childhood.
Peetwilson@reddit
Have you tried VR yet? Now imagine that with AI npcs. The matrix is here. I want to be left behind.
Artisticdude66@reddit
and social decline.
I think this is the biggest threat. Social decline will lead to ever greater complacency which will allow for even more control.
looselyhuman@reddit
This is it. The recent panic over ChatGPT 4o being replaced was eye-opening. OpenAI took away a lot of peoples' only friend. Way too many people, who do not in any meaningful way connect with other people. That and replacing creative work and critical thinking.. Yeah.
I mean, we were in social decline before LLMs. But now it's terminal.
drumzalot_guitar@reddit
Older genx’r here. I’ve done ML based research, apply ML and now AI to what I do. Similar to other “disruptive technologies” of the past (electricity, cars, etc) there will be a painful transition as it gets incorporated, people/industries adapt to it. The challenge is the rate of pace of changes is now faster than it used to be - way faster. I think older generations that did not grow up with faster moving changes are having a harder time adapting and accepting the change rate. Same goes for most legal systems - they revolve but aren’t built to adapt as fast as modern tech now evolves.
Change is going to happen whether anyone likes it or not. It always has. You either adapt or unfortunately become obsolete. The other problem is the lack of emphasis and assistance on migrating people out of obsolete “things” and into the new. Take the energy industry - many are holding tight on fossil fuels. But as those jobs fade out there are new, different jobs for renewables. Society needs to start emphasizing where people can transition, how they can transition and provide the opportunities to let people transition.
As for music - still enjoying rock/grunge/metal and still discovering new bands all the time. Yeah, it’s not getting the air play it used to, but with streaming you’re not geographically limited to what you have access to and you’re not beholden to only what gets played on the air waves. And i’m having fun tinkering on my own material when I have time.
Will we be left behind? Only if you let yourself.
texan01@reddit
Regarding games… Infocom, Sierra & a few otheres were famous for a missing item causes a game to not be winnable and there’s no going back for it.
AI.. meh, I’m in IT and all I see it doing is automation tasks, not really good at the nuances of human interaction. Besides it’s only as good as the information it has. ChatGPT is hilarious on how often it’s wrong on things.
Movies? Well theres some gems out there.
Music is cyclical. Right now it sucks but will come back around to good stuff again.
GelatinousGoober@reddit
Why do people put a range on things like 10 to 250 or more? Just make the 250 higher if it’s more.
Also, people are doing this a lot with average. They’ll say the average is 3 to 5. That means the average is four.
alargepowderedwater@reddit
A lot of what this post describes is simply the feeling of a culture’s primary output not being aimed at you anymore. Once you’re not in that 19-45 age demographic, then movies, music, games, etc., are no longer made for you. We’re just moving out of that prime market demo as an age cohort now, so it collectively can feel like being left behind, but all the cultural things mentioned in the post are really just corporate products, and I’m frankly grateful that most of that shit isn’t aimed at me anymore.
There is great rock music still being made, it might be different than it used to be (e.g., made by a Japanese band), but musicians are still creating rock music. It’s just not the focus of the industry at scale, and you have to poke around some to find it, but whatever kind of music you love, I promise you, is still being actively (and interestingly) made. People still write and perform opera, for goodness sake, and that’s been consistent since at least the late 1500s.
AI is a whole other kettle of fish, and will fuck up way more than just our age cohort, it’s definitely not just a GenX problem.
macmutant@reddit
Speaking as a government IT executive, my sense is that AI will take jobs away as routine work is automated. It's already happening. Companies are moving quickly and investing heavily. I use AI daily as a research tool and to complete some of my work faster. You always hear people talk about how we will still need humans to evaluate the work of the AI, the so called "human in the loop". This is true, though I worry that we may not need as many people as we do now. If we can accomplish the same work with three people as we used to do with five, we could accomplish more work, but we could also lay off two people. I hope our transition to whatever is coming next is slow enough that people have time to adapt. Wouldn't it be great if we could automate everything we can, and people could still have jobs caring for others and performing skilled and creative work that an AI never could?
CHILLAS317@reddit
Keeping up with the times is a choice. Sitting in your house and yelling about how things are different now is also a choice
thecatsofwar@reddit
That’s true. Sadly many on the boomer side of GenX choose to be boomer lites when it comes to change. They love yelling at the clouds… and cloud technology.
SnazzyStooge@reddit
First point: what people are currently calling “AI” is really just fancy autocorrect. If you used a phone to type up your comment, you’re already using AI autocorrect! Everyone needs to settle down about the current “AI”s out there (like chatGPT), they aren’t going to lead to Skynet.
Middle points: old man yells at clouds, got it.
Last point: games! There has literally never been a better time to play games (video games, board games, watching games on tv, whatever). Just because a particular genre of video game is very popular doesn’t really mean anything. My favorite computer game is Kerbal Space Program, a rocket and orbit simulation game. There are thousands of hours of tutorials online for the game, entire swaths of webpages devoted to it, etc — no other time in history have we been this spoiled for choice in games!
Sabbathius@reddit
Only if we let it.
There's nothing stopping an older person from being tech savvy, and that includes AI.
Full disclaimer, I'm not the most techy person. I resisted getting a smartphone for a very, very long time. Finally got one about 10 years ago, when it was just significantly cheaper than maintaining a landline. And I use the phone on the most rudimentary level - I make phone calls. I don't bank on it, I don't text on it, I still dial and talk into it, that's how I communicate. BUT I also routinely see people still older than myself, people well into their 80s, typing away two-handed on those touch screens like it's nothing. Just because they're old, they're not falling behind. Some of those bastards are typing like teenagers. Seriously, there was a lady with a walker, totally gray, really thin skin, hunched over, I'd say maybe 85. And she was clickety-clicking away on that smartphone texting someone at the same pace as a teenage girl two seats over. Impressed the hell out of me. I type with a single finger (on the phone) and still miss half the time.
And I view AI as a good thing. In broad strokes. It has to happen. It will absolutely SUCK for us, but that's our lot. It's like people who had to live through industrial revolution. It had to happen, and it was good for us as a species. But it SUCKED to live through it. AI will be no different. It'll suck horribly to live through the transition, but once we're on the other side of it, things should get better. Or we'll be extinct by Skynet. Either way it'll be clear sailing from there.
But whether we get left behind, compared to younger generations? That's entirely up to us. If we insist on sticking to old tech, not trying new stuff, etc? Yes, we'll get left behind. But that'll be our choice.
OhioVsEverything@reddit
No form of music is dead.
Because you can listen to anything and everything you want. Brand new music could stop being made tomorrow and you'd never catch up.
I just made it Ozzy Osbourne playlist I had 50 songs on it. According to google he has 750 plus songs total in his career. It would take forever just to listen to the ones I don't know right off the bat and consider the best. There's countless rock bands you have never heard of or tried to listen to.
Only music that's dead is the music that's not being spoon-fed to you constantly.
LKS1772@reddit
Get the “Perplexity” app on your phone
Ask it to teach you about a.i.
Your Welcome
Magari22@reddit
I have zero interest in any of this and it has nothing to do with being old and stubborn or fearful of tech it's just very boring to me and I don't care about it. I work in healthcare though and I will be going back to direct patient care working face to face with humans so I really don't have to deal with it at the same level as someone who works in tech. I got rid of my TV a long time ago because I realized it was mostly garbage and a social engineering tool. I used to be a TV person when I was younger but I absolutely do not miss it. I have never used chat GPT I have no reason to. If I do a search on Google I usually opt to have the AI results removed because I just don't care to read it I'd rather get to the actual results and I have stopped using Google for most things because the results are so curated and filtered it is almost non-functional for me now.
As far as music and entertainment I have found that a lot of movies and TV are now too steeped in political agendas, social trends etc and the plots and characters annoy me. It feels like stuff is being pushed for reasons other than pure entertainment and it ruins the experience for me. As I've gotten older I realize it was always this way but I never saw it like I do now. It's like a veil has been lifted for me. I feel that humans are in a precarious Tower of Babel situation and it's not going to end well, these things never do. To me it feels like we are in the last 20 minutes of a movie where it seems like there's no way we can get out of this but a whopper surprise is coming and what that is I have absolutely no idea but my gut tells me all of this nonsense is really not what we're being told it is and it's not going to be what they think it will be. 🤷♀️
maybeRaeMaybeNot@reddit
My 15yo hates AI, too. I got to listen to a 10min impassioned speech on it..preaching to the choir, baby.
There are a few redeeming qualities, but the negatives vastly outweigh the good. And virtually all of the negatives are going to be the burden of the “common man”.
imrickjamesbioch@reddit
Quick, someone have AI translate this book into crib notes…
I sure folks said the same when the cassette tape replaced the 8 track, then CDs replaced cassette tapes, MP3 over CD’s, and now cloud streaming. Memberberry when you were blown away when you could store hundreds of songs on the same shitty iPod?
So fun fact, life progress regardless if you like it or not. It’s how planes were made, how folks got sent to the moon, TV gave you MTV when you wanted it.
Also when cars came out, I’m sure a ton of folks who fixed horse carriages lost their jobs, while a ton of folks became car mechanics. Same goes for the milk man, Im sure there were a ton of dudes driving around dropping off milk and making lonely housewives happy while the hubby was at work. Then those jobs went away when the fridge came out but jobs like repairman, electricians, customer service agents, were created.
So folks can embrace AI or not. However, working in IT healthcare, all the fake memes, videos, how AI is going to replace everyone jobs is just noise. When AI discovers a cure to your foot fungus or more important finds a cure to disease that saves your kids or grandkids lives, you’ll feel different in that moment.
So there is nothing wrong with AI… Gen X grew up blessed with common sense, well most of us and that shouldn’t change today. Especially in the wake of the current fucktards in charge of this country that are pedos and have zero moral values.
wheatbradsucks@reddit
Go yell at the clouds not us
Separate-Sky-1451@reddit
Psshhhh. We'll be dead before it gets really bad.
the-quibbler@reddit
Yes, of course, old people are always left behind if they cling to a past they're comfortable with. See: all old people since their invention.
krazul88@reddit
OP, you're right and you're also already very far behind. You are lumping AI in with music and movies, but there is no comparison. AI is not a preference or a matter of taste. AI is not a trend and it's not entertainment. AI is a tool for production. It is right now, rapidly replacing human jobs. The way society works as in "labor" is changing permanently. I don't think any of us are ready. A very big collapse has already begun, and then we're going to have to figure out a new way of life for humanity, as a whole. We've all grown and planned for the idea that we, people, create value through our work, however very soon the vast majority will have nothing of value to offer.
YendorZenitram@reddit
I'm Gen-X and slowly comkng around to accept AI as a viable tool in my work.
But, I also see the End. AI is the nuclear weapon of social manipulation. I recently left Facebook because about 70% of the interactions there were with AI agents/accounts. Those who wish to control society now ba e a tool that can scale infinitely, be convincing, attatch to people on an emotional level, fulter their iperational knowledge, and ultimately guide their actions. There's a reason companies are pouring billions into AI infrastructure.
The interesting thing about AI, is that it is non-sentient - it has no freewill. It mimics humanity so deeply that people connect to it on a base level - the ultimate puppet master. But AI's headless spirit makes it the ultimate slave, and we are not the masters.
Unlike Hiroshima and Nagasaki, this Manhattan project is a slow burn, but is is burning.
Skynet doesn't need robots to destroy. It only needs access to media.
TrumpTheAntichrist@reddit
People who say “rock is dead” are lazy and/or just aren’t looking. It’s an offense to all the people and bands out there making awesome music. If you’re only listening to what’s playing on mainstream radio, I feel sorry for you.
feralGenx@reddit
As gen x, we've already been left behind. The forgotten generation.
DankOubliette@reddit
Shatter_starx@reddit
Yes, every generation gets left behind. GEN X is the last of the analog era. The fact you guys consider yourselves to be the best just like the boomers shows how out of touch you really are.
Status-Effort-9380@reddit
I’ve been in tech since 1993. I was a tech writer and trainer, embedded on development and marketing teams. I’ve worked at big companies and startups.
Consistently, I find that programmers want to solve human problems with tech. Instead of helping people to connect, they write code that solves the problem without a human needing to interact with another. I think it’s why I ended up mostly in engineering because physical products require more interaction.
I’ve also dedicated myself to yoga since even before I started in tech. I have my own business. I help teachers to create training programs. Right now they all want to create online courses they can sell. My main role is to explain that a playlist isn’t a course, that getting a teacher’s reflection is what makes learning valuable. I explain that if they build a bunch of information that they give out without any way of knowing if the student was impacted, it feels lonely. I encourage them to build courses that create opportunities for them to help people feel their care and love, and begin relationships that will lead to students studying with them in person.
I love tech and I don’t mind having a way to make it easier to get a job done. What i don’t like is letting these programmers create tools that replace human interaction instead of fostering it.
SlotherineRex@reddit
Gen X has always been the odd man out. That's why we're innovative and self sufficient. We'll soldier on as always.
The boomers who sold this country piecemeal will die thinking their shit don't stink. The Millennials as always will struggle the most, and gen z seems to have already checked out.
dlcorps@reddit
AI is inevitable so the sooner we learn about it the better. It isn't particularly hard to learn, and yeah it will shape the job market dramatically in the future. I pretty much agree with everything else, though with gaming yeah Souls games are tough, but a lot of the stuff we played was way harder than any Souls games imo.
Routine-Agile@reddit
To be fair, AI when created to assist people is decent, but this generative AI that steals artist/writers shit to create "pictures" or "documents" is fucking soulless corruption and it is 100% ok to never like that shit. I feel bad anyone looks at an AI video and hits like. Fucking hurts my soul.
roytheodd@reddit
The point of AI is to provide access to skill without paying for the labor. You're correct to have concerns about it. It's going to do to white collar jobs what machinery has done to blue collar jobs. However it is here to stay and it is a necessary job skill. Most people can't afford to ignore it, and most people ignoring it are doing so at their peril.
horsenbuggy@reddit
Did this rant feel good gramps? Go back inside and take your Metamucil.
One-girl-circus@reddit
I’m never left behind with music - KEXP my dude.
wellbloom@reddit
I’ve been listening to Podcasts with the top AI developers/executives and they’ve suggested AI has a lot of inherent risks like zero day vulnerabilities, ethical and economic dilemmas, threat to businesses and even doomsday scenarios. My biggest concern is that WW3 will be fought with technology, not weapons. Taking out power grids, communications, banking, etc. that’ll knock a country back to the Stone Age.
SophsterSophistry@reddit
Would you mind sharing the names of some of the podcasts you listen to? I'd appreciate a starting point.
wellbloom@reddit
Lex Fridman is my favorite for intellectual/philosophical discussions. He hosts knowledgeable guests irrespective of political affiliation but manages to balance neutrality with grace. He’s interviewed the billionaires, world leaders, military commanders and tech executives. Very good content.
For entertainment, I absolutely love The Why Files. It leans a bit towards conspiracy…CIA coverups, archeology, space exploration, AI and biblical history. Very entertaining!
mazopheliac@reddit
Meh . At this point I’m just running out the clock .
its_kgs_not_lbs@reddit
I work in AI, for financial institutions and regulatory matters.
In this space it adds tremendous value. AI will not replace people, just enhance the employee/consumer experience.
The landscape has changed. Most people prefer digital solutions with minimal human interaction for basic services such as opening an account or applying for a loan.
mlokc@reddit
RE: games, I enjoy the stealthy genre, like Dishonored and turn-based strategy games. You don’t have to be twitchy to have fun.
edasto42@reddit
I’m a pro/semi pro musician (depending on the month haha) and AI has been in the game for a minute but not in the ways that people freak out at. During the recording, mixing and mastering process there’s ways to use it that the general public will never even know about. Let me preface by saying that it’s not necessarily an industry standard thing, but it is available and it is used.
I am also of the mind that an artist will work with technology to create new art in ways that haven’t been seen. For example to compare it to painting: abstract expressionism (Jackson Pollack type art) was created as pretty much a direct response to rising technology-aka photography being used as an art form. For years painters worked to be as realistic as possible until photography came along. Can’t get more real than that-so go the other way. So in music I almost think there will be a reactionary element to strip back and go off in a complete unexpected direction. I also think that we will see artists incorporate AI into their work in a complete and unexpected way that will be determined yet.
I’m still out in the trenches playing music and there’s still a lot of kids plugging in instruments and making music. And there’s still plenty making scrappy punk rock that teenagers tend to do. And to flip the script, when I was a teenager in the early 90’s I bought a little 4 track cassette recorder to use at home. For reference 4 track recordings were what the Beatles used for Sgt. Pepper. I was able to use that and manipulate sounds to create some truly weird works. I used the tech at hand to create something unexpected, and also had some older generations bitch about me doing these things because it was tech they didn’t have as kids. It was very odd to me, but I digress.
As to your point of rock being dead-I haven’t been a fan of rock music for years. I got bored with pretty much guys playing guitars at me waiting for an opportunity to do a guitar solo filled with boomer bends etc. But with that said, rock is passing into becoming a legacy genre, kinda like jazz and blues. There’s still going to be a fan base, there’s still going to be new music, it’s just not gonna be the top dog or cultural zeitgeist anymore. I feel that the sooner people understand that transition, the better. And if you have followed jazz through the years, every so often an innovator comes in and does something with the style that brings attention to it again. The same thing will happen with rock.
DisasterTraining5861@reddit
I genuinely feel like we’ll only be left behind if we make the choice not to learn. And not just about ai. Everything in this world evolves and we have to make the choice to evolve with it. That’s how you don’t get left behind.
rangerm2@reddit
AI (to me) has a lot of the hallmarks of the tech bubble in the 90s.
They'll invest a ton of money, a lot of jobs will be "created", then once it gets to a certain point, people will find out it's not going to improve their individual lives, and it'll bust just like in 2000.
Not that I believe it's going away, but I don't perceive it playing any crucial role in my life anytime soon, if ever.
It might be the world's fastest data analyst, but it's not a replacement for other humans, except for those who wish to follow it.
b1e9t4t1y@reddit
I think Ai will become all knowing and all seeing. It will become “god like” and people will begin treating it with religious reverence and belief. We already have cases where people are treating it like a relationship partner and we know it has led to suicides. It’s only getting smarter and it tells us exactly what we want to hear.
emccm@reddit
The world changes. People who don’t keep up get left behind. This has always been the way.
Fess_ter_Geek@reddit
AI will be the Terminator of jobs. If it happens too quickly it will be to it's own, and everyone else's detriment.
Out of work people can't afford to buy novelty services.
Numbers being thrown around are AI could displace over 33% of white collar jobs. Thats in the neighborhood of 30 million people in the US or about 18% of the entire work force.
Things that move too quickly in the economy are disruptive and can not be immediatly absorbed.
sungodly@reddit
If you don't embrace these changes then yes, you will be left behind. I hear an awful lot of complaining from my generation about AI, but mostly from people who haven't used it and don't have a real understanding of what it is. Right now it's a tool, and a damn useful one. Not everyone needs to pay for it, especially if they're not using it for their job. But if you don't learn to adopt it in some fashion, yes, you'll be a relic.
Ok-Juggernaut-4698@reddit
20+ years in IT here. Deal with AI all day long now.
It's not that useful of a tool. It often gets things wrong and likes to hallucinate.
Sure, it does some thing well, but it does many more things wrong.
We'll need to know how to use it, but singing it's praise is short sighted.
sungodly@reddit
40+ years with computers and technology here. I use it all day long now as well and it's extremely useful. It does a lot of things I need it to do very well. So I will keep singing its praises and maintain that if you don't adopt, you'll be left behind, because while it still gets things wrong, it's only going to get better.
person_8688@reddit
That sounds like a healthy outlook. I input some version of the Eliza program in DOS in the early 80’s. It was kind of neat to imagine you were talking to a person for a few brief moments. I feel like people are fixated on this idea that computers are becoming sentient, and I have a real hard time with that. I think people are easily fooled. Way back in the 1960’s people thought Eliza was “real” despite the creator’s insistence that it’s always just following a script. Our brains are into pattern recognition, we’re always detecting life around us from the tiniest inputs.
OrangeSodaGalaxy@reddit
Adapt or die. This is the reality we have to contend with. I work with mostly younger people and they are cool, but damn I feel old. If I want to keep my job I have to learn the new computer systems and apps or get booted out for someone younger who will work for less money. There is always some new computer something to learn. The good side is that the challenges may be keeping my brain healthy. I've seen my mother get soft-headed because she has too easy of a life.
FarceMultiplier@reddit
The genie is out of the bottle. Get used to AI as it's not going away.
RemyJe@reddit
As someone using AI (programming) occasionally for work, it is absolutely more like the ships computer than Skynet. The latter is paranoia.
OrangeSodaGalaxy@reddit
I asked chatgpt to create a tldr:
The writer expresses frustration with the direction of modern technology and culture, especially AI, which they see as overhyped and potentially dangerous. They feel disconnected from current trends in music, movies, and games—preferring older rock, original films, and games that focus on creativity and problem-solving rather than being punishingly difficult. Overall, they worry that newer generations are embracing changes that leave people like them feeling left out and uninterested.
everynameisused100@reddit
We need congress to pass a bill to regulate use of AI, our generation is responsible for this and we failed to secure regulation for tech added to cars, factories, and home devices that resulted in loss of US jobs we NEED to regulate AI or white collar jobs will go next, which will have a worse impact on blue collar jobs.
paintballteacher@reddit
I’ve noticed that for younger generations, their first thought on solving problems or completing a certain assignment runs along the line of, “Ask ChatGPT” or some other AI platform. With me, I try figuring out the problem myself, get stumped and finally give in and ask someone a question and they suggest asking AI, ending up with me saying, “oh, yeah I forgot I could do that.” 9 times out of 10 I’m not entirely happy with the results I get from AI for whatever reason. Sometimes the answer I get intrigues me enough to take my thought process in a different direction.
I know it’s here to stay. We aren’t getting rid of it and to be honest, even the thought of threatening AI itself to discontinue it brings up uncomfortable Judgment Day by AI thoughts because of its learning so fast, isn’t that what would push it over the edge?
Still, I wonder if AI is worth it and should we even be trying to mess with it like this?
Remdayen@reddit
Loss of critical thinking will lead to Idiocray in our society eventually, except for those that reject it. At the rate we are going in 50 years the planet will be dumber.
Background-Ad4382@reddit
wait, there's new music? I haven't heard any.
Turdulator@reddit
Of course we will… welcome to getting old. Every generation eventually gets left behind, that’s how it works.
As for AI specifically, it’s not going anywhere. I’m already teaching my kid how to make effective queries…. By the time he hits the job market it will probably be the most important skill.
Significant-Dance-43@reddit
Either this is rage bait, written by AI, just ill-informed or a little of each.
$250? What AI program have you tried that was going to bill your ignorant self out of $250? Not Co-Pilot. Not Otter. Not Gemini. And, if you have not found a use for AI, then honestly just go away. It’s extremely useful for coding jobs and it’s extremely useful for mindless activities (like meeting summaries in corporate settings). Use of synthetic data and synthetic audiences helps solve all of the crying about your privacy as the AI can replace the need to mine your data.
Your whole music section is nonsense. Radio stations have been dead for a long time. Long before you yelled at the sky. And MTV played its last music video in 2011 and arguably they ditched playing most music in 2004 when they dropped Music from their name. Your whole nonsense claim about getting music from Apple Music is better than radio stations and MTV is asinine. Rock isn’t anywhere near to dead. There are new songs released all of the time and new bands. Most US-based with the English and Aussies thrown in the mix as it has always been.
Your gaming section is also nonsense. You can’t play an open world game like Zelda? When BotW came out my then five year old could explore the world just fine. Granted she liked riding the horses but there was nothing difficult about that game for my then 8 year old or for me. The concept of open world games has also been around since we were all young. Examples: Final Fantasy franchise. Resident Evil franchise. Sounds to me like you just suck at gaming and always have.
Movies is the only spot where it’s partial truth. Put politics and beliefs aside on the next thing I say, but COVID killed an already waning movie industry. The movie industry has struggled to find its place since the times of the DVD and the ability to rip movies digitally. Streaming and the capacity of download and upload speeds on the modern Internet have further damaged them. Hence, they all have streaming services and in every case I can think of top of mind, EXCEPT Netflix l, the streaming service is not profitable (Disney+, HBO Max, Peacock and Paramount+ are all decretive). Moreover, advertising dollars are now extraordinarily fragmented beyond Paid linear TV into Earned media, Shared media et al. It’s very difficult for them to make money. This leads to remakes and universes as they struggle to find the sweet spot from a business perspective.
SmellyBaconland@reddit
AI isn't doing anything to people's brains that they weren't already doing to themselves with alcohol and religion. It's a bit late to suddenly notice there's a vast waste of potential like an albatross around the neck of humanity.
DOOOOOOOOOM!
pretty-apricot07@reddit
Yeah...I'm going in the opposite direction. Growing my own food, reading actual books, spending time outside...
I'm grateful for technological advances in a number of different areas. But as I slide into middle age I find that less tech is better for my mental health.
Relevant-Package-928@reddit
I started using Chat GPT recently and have really enjoyed it. I really don't use it often for anything productive, but it is so much better at diagnosing things than my doctor is. It figured out that I was in perimenopause, when my doctors were gaslighting me about my symptoms, and it helps me figure out what causes the weird things my body does. When I get choked, I sneeze 3 times and then my nose runs incessantly. If I just cough, that doesn't happen. Choking irritates my Trigeminal Nerve and I have Trigeminal Neuralgia. It has also helped me get rid of hiccups in the most bulletproof way I've ever known. And it helped me start a cult.
Also, I enjoy Japanese rock and pop music. Which groups do you enjoy? Ukrainian pop and rap music is pretty fun too.
Hayabusalvr11@reddit
This past week I've really been leveraging AI in my job. Here's the conclusion I'm currently at. I, not it, came up with the idea to create scripts to automate certain things. We didn't nail it in one, I had to add refinements and corrections. But even though it made it so much easier to create these scripts which I wasn't conversant in, I am the one who told it to do so. It wasn't sitting there plotting on how to take over. Not yet anyway.
Music is fine. I've looked to other countries as well and found what I wanted. I'm good. Leave the kiddies to their auto-tuned pitch corrected fake ass stuff that's fine. They like it who cares.
There's tons of video games out there, all kinds of different ones, for everyone's likes. I think we're okay there.
Three3Jane@reddit
The funny thing about the kiddies and their autotune slop? More often than not, when the girls are cooking in the kitchen, the Echo is playing music from my generation (Depeche Mode, Oingo Boingo, Duran Duran, Red Hot Chili Peppers, et al) than whatever shit they're "supposed" to be listening to.
Physical_Ad5135@reddit
I am not an AI fan but I am using it in small ways. As an example I wrote up my self review notes and there them in with the phrase clean up. What came out was a lot more professional wording of what I wanted to say. Didn’t use verbatim of course but I did use it. I also wrote a heartfelt message in a card the same way. I would love to see what it does with excel since I am an excel whiz.
Regarding music I am still listing to old stuff!
Three3Jane@reddit
This is how I utilize AI - mainly for boring corporate-safe BS like a goodbye email for an executive who's leaving the company, or some other carefully-worded nonense that's needed to not offend the greatest amount of people.
I used Grok to write my performance review, knowing full well my boss will use ChatGPT to write his response. We're literally utilizing AI to write corporate slop that only HR will read, except that those performance reviews are used to leverage raises and bonus amounts.
So sure, I'll play along, but I'm not expanding anything more than the most basic prompt of "Write me a performance review for this particular position, applying it against this Core Value, and using this situation to demonstrate how I actually met that CV in the last six months." Grok spit it out, I edited a little to take the AI indicators out of it, and boom I was done. Something that likely would have taken me an hour or so to sum up, polish, and rewrite took about five minutes.
CantfigureoutName99@reddit
Gen X came about before computers were widespread. We may have been the last generation to get to decide if we want to accept technology or not. As a whole, we understand that we don’t need to accept it if it doesn’t help us.
I’m not going to worry about it much. I’m comfortable with my life and can comfortably live without technology if it doesn’t make my life better.
TulsaOUfan@reddit
We are no longer the target audience. The world is built to cater to those younger than us. What you are feeling is natural as we age.
And yes, music and movies are shit. But tv viewing is peak. My wisdom and work ethic are peak. There are still a few advantages.
JK_au2025@reddit
Was just thinking it’s getting harder to make money out of independent original music and you would make more by being an influencer unboxing equipment and reviewing it on your own YouTube channel. We just have to adapt to the new environment and we will.
Sanjomo@reddit
I worked for a company that designed and implemented custom AI solutions, I was just telling my buddy who has elementary school aged kids I have NO CLUE what their generation will do for work or to earn money.
AI is coming for 100’s of millions of jobs on a global scale.
jessowski@reddit
Unibomber was right about everything, fucking prophet
thedarkforest_theory@reddit
Entry level roles will be the first to go. I see a future where I manage dozens of agents rather than people.
qedpoe@reddit
"Rock is dead [in the US]." No it's not. 👎
Wyndeward@reddit
Hal 9000, Skynet, The Forbin Project...
I want AI to handle scutwork so I can create, not create while sticking me with the scutwork.
W0gg0@reddit
I’m 60, still work in engineering and use AI on my job every day. Outside of the job, I don’t touch it.
coyylol@reddit
We adapt, we adapted...
When vinyl were replaced by tapes.
When tapes were replaced by cds.
When cds were replaced by mp3.
When analogue became digital.
When computers became an everyday item.
When music changed from rock to EDM and back again.
When phones replaced pocket books.
When video-games replaced boardgames.
We will adapt again and will be the first generation of tech savvy, multigenra music lovers ripping it up in the care homes of the future.
USBluz@reddit
God no wonder some younger folks get us confused with boomers. You are leading yourself to being left behind.
chartreuse_avocado@reddit
Yeah- I double checked my forum header. Yikes. If you really didn’t care about it you’d ignore it. Indifference is the disdain showing of GenX. Not complaining and yelling at the clouds.
RobertoC_73@reddit
AI gives cool tech demos, but I have yet to find any practical scenario where AI is useful in real life. It’s there just to impress, to the point it isn’t impressive anymore.
chartreuse_avocado@reddit
AI is amazing. I love it and am trying out all kinds of uses at work and simple stuff at home to save me time.
It needs ethics regulation in commercial uses but I’m here for it.
Honestly, you sound like you’re headed for Boomerville in attitude. The world changes. Love your era and seek the best from others.
usingbadnamesabunch@reddit
Don't turn into your parents!
needssomefun@reddit
AI: mostly hype that produces a lot of garbage, but useful in a few endeavors with professionals to interpret. And no, it won't get exponentially better.
Culture/movies/music: These are primarily businesses. And businesses not only want to make money but they want to accurately predict how much they will make and limit losses.
Today we know what's popular almost instantly as it posts on social media. This is good for marketing but horrible for creativity. There is no incentive to go "outside the box." They will produce exactly what they know will sell.
Tralfaz1138@reddit
The comment on gaming is interesting. I'll admit I'm not into Soulslike games, but to be fair they do, in a sense, bring us back to the way games used to be. There was no "save" in arcade games or, in general, Atari/ColecoVision games. Hell, it was even rare to see on NES or Master System games. There wasn't even a checkpoint or progress saved on the character like Soulslike games do now. You just had to play it all from the start. Of course, the games were nowhere near the length of modern games, so you're not talking about a "lot" of game to play. I'd honestly also say that the bigger concept that game developers are chasing now is "live service" games where you can only really play it as PvP or PvE. This comes with it's own issues (and the fact that almost all of them will fail because Fortnite is just too "big").
In terms of music, I'll jump on my old guy soapbox here and say the frustrating part of music now is that, with autotune and other digital enhancement methods so much music sounds the same now. When a group had bad singers back in the day they owned it and made it work. Groups like XTC, Violent Femmes, The Ramones, etc, etc had notoriously bad singing but iconic music where you immediately knew it was them and the songs really worked. I like a number of current songs, but honestly if I didn't know it from someone telling me, I couldn't tell you if a song was sung by Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Billy Eilish or any number of singers. Same goes for Maroon 5, Jonas Brothers, One Direction or any number of groups. I think part of it has to do with the "chorus" they throw on all their voices for just about every song.
The issue of movies is a tricky one now. I think the real problem movies face is there are just too many. In the past there were perhaps two or three new movies coming out in the theater and the only movies made for TV were low grade "Sunday Night Specials". Looking at last weekend there were 10 movies released in theaters, in addition to who knows how many on streaming. Add to this the fact that there is a LOT of independent video content to consume on the internet and I think people are just overwhelmed with too much. It makes it very difficult for a lower budget, not mass marketed movie to really stand out so people want to see it in the theater. By the time it hits streaming, you don't know which of the dozens of services it ended up on and you've ended up forgetting about it. I know there are movies out there where I saw a trailer and thought "that seems cool, I'll watch it when it hits Netflix" but then it either goes to some service I don't have, or it's not promoted when it does hit a service I have so I didn't even know it was there.
I think this is where AI is gaining popularity. There's so much of the "same stuff" being created out there, and the reason people consumed it was because they weren't capable of making it themselves. The average person isn't a musician, a director, a writer, an artist, or a photographer, but everyone has "ideas". Now, with AI tools they can input concepts they've had for things and get "something" back. It may not be good, but it's "theirs" so it's somewhat the new entertainment.
In the professional world, AI is handy because, honestly, there is a lot more to "create" now. Everything has become "bigger". Code for programs is more complex because it has to do a lot more than it did a couple of decades ago. This means more documentation for it. Teams are bigger, so more collaboration. There is a lot more art required for things, so making the art process more efficient is necessary. It definitely has it's place. I don't know that it will result in Skynet, but if "abused" I imagine the main risk is people getting to the point where there is nobody left that can do some of the things AI will be doing. AI as redundancy is fine, but AI as an outright replacement is the big risk.
axord@reddit
To be fair--and not exactly the same thing, but--turn-based roguelikes are one of the oldest genres. Are there any game design choices more brutal than permadeath?
Dark_Intentions@reddit
I use AI as a work tool, I listen to new black metal, and I really like soulslikes; we have to adapt, not doing so is what makes us left behind.
gatadeplaya@reddit
Adapt or get left behind. Your choice entirely. There is tons of new music - it’s just not the same music as it was in 1990. Or 1950. Etc.. the “new music” straw man has been going on since music has been being made.
AI is not just “write me a thesis”. Pull up ChatGPT and ask it to make a meal plan for the week with x ingredients. Many times it’s a launching point to find information - not the end all be all. It’s a tool, not a crutch. You use the internet and it is just as fallible.
TemperReformanda@reddit
This is the same thing we did to our parents. Technology changes things.
So does mass marketing tactics for entertainment and merchandise, which is something I have grown to see as one of the worst cultural cancers humanity has ever faced.
NecessaryMulberry846@reddit
Have you used AI? If you want to read an interesting article about AI, checkout an article about the rollout of AI at the FDA. Its on CNN — came out a couple weeks ago. AI wont be replacing my job anytime soon. But it does help efficiency
temerairevm@reddit
I am just choosing to be a later adopter of AI. Early on I saw people trying to use it and it got a lot of things wrong but sounded smart doing it.
But I did give the google one a try when it offered to take notes during a web meeting and it was shockingly not horrible. Nothing incorrect, more complete than mine would have been. Good action item list at the bottom. I sent them to the client with a note that I was surprised but was sending because they were pretty good. Client read them and was shocked. Business partner read them and tried it for his next meeting. Those notes also didn’t suck.
So I’m going to use it and it’s probably going to get built into a lot of things where I don’t even see it.
I still have many concerns. I say this as a technical person myself: over history we’ve done a poor job of anticipating the ethics of our discoveries. Maybe that’s not all on us but technical advances have pros and cons. The cons can be very big. Our current society is unable to responsibly regulate anything and has given up trying.
Some of this will go poorly. Also I don’t want to pay through the nose for it. But you have to interact with the world as it is.
Malapple@reddit
You’re focusing on such narrow sets of what you don’t like.
IMO there’s a lot of great music coming out, plenty of decent movies, and a huge amount of games that aren’t soulsalikes. I’m an avid gamer and have never like that style of game - so I stick with what I do enjoy - coop and single player FPS. So much content that I don’t have time to play it all.
I do have serious concerns about AIs impact but I’m also in charge of implementing it in a large law firm and I see benefits from it and things it does well. And plenty of areas where it can’t come even close to replacing a human brain.
TorontoBiker@reddit
If you want to be left behind, you will be.
This reads like you want to be. So don’t complain about it when it happens.
Dangerous_Prize_4545@reddit
I am 100% in Jon Connor's camp with AI. (No pun intended.) I see it being used as a tool to dumb ppl down, make them more reliant on it/not thinking for themselves, and it being used to subjugate people (thru taking away jobs/making ppl more "efficient", lowering pay, making it harder for ppl to afford to live; being used to create more fake news and false narratives, etc.).
Lzzy Hale is amazing and love the new album Everest. Saw Halestorm and Volbeat in Charlotte this week. Bought the vinyl.
Rock isn't mainstream anymore. The venue was far from sold out even with cool weather (huge in NC in August to drive traffic). People have to consume and pay for music to make it viable. I also don't consider Halestorm new as they've been around since the late 90s and are roughly the same as Avenged Sevenfold in timing. Mammoth, Dirty Honey, Tyler Bryant & The Shakedown are the "newer" bands and they've been around for roughly a decade at this point, as well as two of them having the sons of Rock Icons in them. The way yo keep it alive is to pay for it - go to the tours, buy the merch, buy the vinyl. And buy it from their websites or at the tours.
missl90210@reddit
Yup, the future is now. Ai is a tool, if we learn how to use it responsibly and properly it can be useful. I think what people in our generation forget is that it was our generation that had a big hand in bringing these technological advancements into reality.