RX 7900 XTX VS RX 9070 XT For ONLY 1440p gaming.

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XtremeCSGO@reddit

I don’t believe you when you say you’ll never turn fsr on m. Get the 9070 XT

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Possible-Band-184@reddit

I always turn it off in games where it defaults to on. I'll happily take lower fps for better visuals. 30 fps is perfectly playable

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RoinaRane@reddit

I avoid using FSR, as Reshade gives me much better visual quality and overall graphics without it.

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GARGEAN@reddit

...And how exactly Reshade is connected to AA solution and upscaling?

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Reshade has nothing to do with upscaling, but it does have to do with anti-aliasing. Often, I turn off AA in the game settings and adjust the image through Reshade’s settings instead. This often results in a much better image than using the game’s AA at all. As for upscaling, in some games FSR looks worse and even performs worse than running without upscaling. Of course, that’s due to my cpu and gpu a 3900X and RX 6800X. That’s why I use fsr very rarely. I’m sure it works better on newer hardware and can deliver better graphics and AA in games, but on my system it often has the opposite effect.

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FranticBronchitis@reddit

People be going for FSR4 real quick when it's either upscaling or TAA

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Xonesix@reddit

I'm late to this post, but am thinking about deciding between these two. And if anyone is here from the future; Like OP said, if raw performance is all, looking at the gamer's nexus benchmarks. For the games I care about. The 7900xtx is quite a bit faster in non ray traced cases than the 9070xt. I don't use upscaling that often. So 7900xtx is a good card for me (1440p) BUT if ray tracing and upscaling is important, 9070xt seems to be in parity with the xtx most of the time and even pulling ahead in some cases. Though ask yourself this: if you really care about upscaling and ray tracing that much, why are you looking at radeon cards. NVIDIA's 5000 series dominates. there's no need to be looking at radeon cards if worrying about ray tracing and upscaling. On top of that DLSS is leagues better than FSR4. And when you combine it with Multi Frame Gen, which looks to be the future as of now, it's not even close. So (raw performance for me i chose 7900xtx for my games based on the gamers nexus benchmarks) But upscaling and ray tracing is important, (First go for NVIDIA, if can't afford that then 9070xt)

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MetaSageSD@reddit

For pure FPS performance outside of RT and DLSS/FSR, the 7900XTX is a better choice. It even outperforms the RTX 4090 in some cases. But… I know you don’t care about FSR or ray tracing, but ray tracing is going to become a requirement in a lot future games. I would go with the 9070XT just for its more modern architecture and a little future proofing.

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Open-Instruction-138@reddit

9070 XT for PURE 1440P and entry level 4K, if you can find it cheap

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Melodic_Slip_3307@reddit

9070 XT. 7900XTX was a missed opportunity with the constant driver timeouts, and no features other than raw gaming performance for a 1000.

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Melodic-Matter4685@reddit

7900xtx all the way. . . But only if you are the kind of person that says, "Modern AAA games are so base compared to my coleqovision!!! it's 2026 and ALL the cool kids are Coleqovision" Has anyone of us in this sub ever thought, "I'd prefer 6 year old tech instead of the stuff release this year"?!! when the old stuff is either the same price or more expensive.

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badassbolsac@reddit

Get which ever is cheapest if you don’t care about anything lol

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

That's why I am asking for others opinions. It's weird to me that a card that's almost 3 years old is performing better than a new card. When looking online the main talking point people bring up is FSR and raytracing performance. So minus those benefits is the 9700xt worth for No RT No FSR 1440p gaming.

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badassbolsac@reddit

7900 xtx was amd’s flagship card, aka their best card they’ve released so its a not surprise, but id say the 9070xt is good if you can score one for msrp

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MillenniumExodus@reddit

It is still AMD Flagship GPU.......

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qkni7@reddit

It's a 70 class card, AMD doesn't have a high end, they said they'd focus on mid to low range cards in 9000 series.

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KillEvilThings@reddit

The 9070xt is almost as powerful as the XTX while offering much better RT efficiency.

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Competitive_Film562@reddit

You can build a 5070ti for the same price?

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Lion12341@reddit

I would have said the 9070XT, but since you don't care about ray tracing or fsr, it'd probably make more sense to get the 7900XTX. Assuming the price is the same

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nerdthatlift@reddit

With what you're looking for in performance, just get 9070xt. It's cheaper. My buddy got 7900xtx right before 9070xt for 1100usd and I got 9070xt when it was launched. When we compared the game performance that we played, it's very comparable between the two and not far from each other. We played Monster Hunter Wilds, Dune: Awakening, and few others together. Save your money unless you just want XTX then go for it.

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bircele@reddit

If two cars cost about the same and offer similar performance, but one is newer and comes with more (and better) features - even if you don’t use them all, it still makes more sense to go with the one that gives you more for your money. Why pay the same and get less?

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YamaVega@reddit

9000s made the 7000s irrelevant

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rip-droptire@reddit

Assuming price equivalency, get the 7900 XTX and undervolt. Speaking from experience, you can save a TON of power consumption on this card and not lose performance, being faster than the 9070 XT at very similar power draw.

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SunPsychological1147@reddit

I swear half of these people didn’t read the post, talking about rt when you said that wasn’t a priority ever. I can’t imagine cs2, tarkov, Fortnite, or Minecraft ever forcing rt (tbf that wasn’t in post). Should still probably consider the XT, but mostly depending on price. If the price is a considerable bit lower than that 5-10% fps boost, I’d go for the XT for better value.

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earlgeorge@reddit

9070 XT has far better RT performance. That doesn't seem to matter to many, but I personally love RT / PT and if I were going AMD, it'd be the 9070 XT for sure.

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allah_oh_almighty@reddit

9070 xt can PT? 👀 ! (Neuron activation)

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261846@reddit

Not really, the 5070Ti is a lot better there. Nvidia is still far ahead of AMD in scenarios where theirs heavy RT/PT.

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brondonschwab@reddit

No not really

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beirch@reddit

Not effectively at all. The 5070 Ti is anywhere from 30-100% faster at PT, depending on settings.

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earlgeorge@reddit

They can DO it, technically, but i think the 9070 XT is the first AMD card where PT could be playable with the right amount of FSR scaling and frame gen.

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Antenoralol@reddit

> I DO NOT CARE about Raytracing, and FSR

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Marty5020@reddit

9070XT. Like it or not, RT will become more and more common. And FSR4 seems to be pretty damn good.

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

But it will be a setting that I will turn off. Its ugly and tanks frames.

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ishootforfree@reddit

Many UE5 games are using the Lumen lighting tech which forces RT and cannot be disabled. Like the other reply said, more games will be launching with baked-in RT. When people say "9070xt for better RT", that's what they mean. With driver and feature updates/maturity, the performance gap between the 9070xt and 7900xtx will likely increase over the years as well.

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Gengar77@reddit

lumen is software based and performs better then nvidia rt solution on dev kits. Lumen is prob the worst example to give since its being build to rival Nvidias monopoly.

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beirch@reddit

Are you talking about FSR when you say it tanks frames? In that case you're not talking about the same thing. Maybe you're talking about supersampling? With supersampling you can "increase" resolution to 4K on a 1440p monitor, which will reduce performance. Upscaling (FSR) works the complete opposite: It will reduce your resolution, and then upscale that to your monitors resolution, essentially giving you free frames for very little quality loss.

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PrestigiousBad7125@reddit

But imagine only you can't? Remember new Indiana Jones and Doom game? They have in-built rtx ON which you can't disable. Soon there would be more games that have Ray tracing which you can't disable at all. Ofc you can skip it but new GPUs are focusing on Ray tracing themselves. We can't run them forever.

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No_Entertainer1254@reddit

Raw performance 7900 xtx. price, ray tracing 9070xt

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Antenoralol@reddit

> I DO NOT CARE about Raytracing, and FS The 7900 XTX is the slightly faster. But the 9070 XT is newer, more efficient, better encoder etc etc.

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dorting@reddit

You know you don't need to upscale? You can even use at native and get even better visual than anything else?

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

XTX Benchmarks I've seen have higher frames so is not that worth it? I mean so far the only benefits people have said is ray tracing and FSR. I also guarantee that using FSR does not feel the same as just getting more frames.

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nru3@reddit

I think you are confusing fsr with frame generation. Fsr will give you more frames and these are real frames. Everything you've been saying makes me think you don't understand what fsr is?

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dorting@reddit

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-9070-xt.c4229 Look the relative performance, xtx is just 6% faster in raster... They're basically the same, it doesn't make sense to abandon all the new features for a 6% that you can't even notice without a software

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KFC_Junior@reddit

Why would you never turn fsr on when fsr4 is equal or better than TAA (the only option in lots of games)

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Xero_id@reddit

Honestly the only reason at this point I'd say go with the xtx is vr. I'm going to assuming each year more games will start requiring ray tracing to be on and I'd would definitely want the 9070xt over 7900xtx for that alone. I really think the xtx may age quickly and the higher price of it doesn't help. Honestly I've been in the same debate about which to buy because I do play vr and realized I can either buy the 9070xt this year or wait for them to release their next 20gb+ card. I'm not going to spend $800+ on a gpu that may be somewhat obsolete because of newer games requiring rt being on.

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MillenniumExodus@reddit

RX 7900 XTX without hesitation.

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LostTheElectrons@reddit

Unless you can find the 7900XTX for really cheap, the 9070 XT is still preferred. It's understandable to not want to fuss about with injecting FSR4 into games now, but when it's more widespread and just a in-game setting, why wouldn't you enable it? It's essentially free performance.

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

Because I don't care about upscaling. I like how 1440p looks and just want higher framerates. I hate the idea and do not want to support AI/Upscaling/Frame Gen whatever.

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f1rstx@reddit

Imagine being so misinformed and wrong, lol. FSR4 Quality will look better than TAA Native and will have higher frames

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

That's just not true. I don't like the look of 4k so why would I want to try and upscale to it while reducing quality.

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beirch@reddit

That's not how upscaling works. You upscale from a lower resolution to your monitors resolution for free frames. FSR 4 quality mode (the lowest quality loss) basically looks like native and you can expect about 20-40% better performance depending on the game.

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Calm-Bid-8256@reddit

You know what looks even better than TAA native? FSR4 native. It looks absolutely amazing. No need to use it for framgen or upscaling. There is always the option to use it at native.

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MAGA_muscle@reddit

You could be pleasantly suprised. The 9070xt was pretty much my first gpu, at least first one where I cared about settings and maxing out performance. I hated fsr and automatically turned it off before even trying it because of YouTubers. A day after using it and Fsr4 was my favorite setting to turn on.

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nru3@reddit

I don't think you understand it at all. You don't upscale to 4k if you are on 1440p. You run at a lower resolution and fsr will upscale it to 1440p. In effect you get the performance of the lower resolution with the image quality of the 1440p native resolution.

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f1rstx@reddit

It is true

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FuuZePL@reddit

It's the future of gaming 4k FSR 4 performance mode looks better than 1440p native and has higher fps. On top of that RT/PT has seen massive improvements and specifically on the newest nVidia GPUs has fairly low performance impact (outside of path tracing). It may not be perfect today, certainly not on an AMD gpu however some new games like DOOM the dark ages or Oblivion remaster force at least some RT to always be on. And lastly frame gen is fairly new technology but even so 2x frame gen looks indistinguishable from native in almost all scenarios, it improves precieved smoothness at little to no actual input latency, 3-4x frame gen will also improve in the future.

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LostTheElectrons@reddit

I can understand not wanting to support AI, although I would argue that upscaling is not really the same thing as the 'AI' that people usually dislike. FSR is primarily used to give higher framerates, because the game will be rendered at say 1080p and then upscaled to 1440p. You get the high framerates of 1080p, but the image quality of 1440p. Of course either the 9070XT or 7900XTX will destroy most games even at 1440p, but as newer and more demanding games come out, it can be nice to have more performance before needing to upgrade again.

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jsconger@reddit

This may sound odd but the Asus tuf 5070oc has been awesome for 1440p

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Asgardianking@reddit

With fsr on in most games the 9070xt is the faster card. In pure faster the 7900xtx is slightly faster. For fsr4 alone the 9070 xt is the better card.

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PAPO1990@reddit

You may not care about RT, but there's already 2 games that REQUIRE it (Doom: The Dark Ages & Indiana Jones), more will surely come. Even if you don't care about playing either of those (though they both look pretty cool IMO) there will be something sooner or later, so depending on how long you plan to keep the GPU for, 9070XT is probably the best bet. Raster performance is not far behind the 7900XTX, but RT performance is MUCH better. Even for games that don't need it, it can be nice top turn on, I'm re-playing Doom Eternal now, and the little extra pop the ray tracing gives it is really nice, even though that's not even a particularly special implementation. As for upscaling, I mostly agree with not wanting to use it at 1440p, but I'm starting to consider going from 1440p to 4k myself, not so much for gaming, but for text readability specifically, should the right ultrawide monitor become available, I will be glad to have upscaling, even if I only render the game at 1440p-1600p, it will scale nicely to 4k without me needing to take the 4k performance hit.

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Novilin@reddit

The 9070xt is always a better deal, one could argue that the 7900 xtx has a vram advantage, but that should only be noticeable in 4k resolutions or some ai usage The only thing is if you already have a 7900 xtx, you dont need to upgrade yet, wait a further generation or 2

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danny_ocp@reddit

For future-proofing sake, just get the 9070 XT, which is also probably cheaper by quite a fair bit. Plus, it is \~50W lower on power requirements vs the 7900 XTX.

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EnigmaSpore@reddit

FSR4 native + DLAA (dlss native) is a must today. Ignoring them is pretty foolish since the native TAA in these deferred rendered games is ass now.

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

I don't really play new games, even when I do I don't mind lowering settings to achieve higher FPS. If I really want to have a game look good. I will plug in a controller and play on 60fps.

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EnigmaSpore@reddit

It’s more about the xtx only being 4-5% better in raster but worse in rt and having worse features while also costing more. It just makes sense logically to go for a 9070xt UNLESS you’re a niche vr chat user who really needs all that vram.

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Technical-Swimmer-70@reddit

xtx. my brother and i both have red devil cards. my xtx wins in all the games we play. sometimes by 15-20%. I too have no interest in Ray tracing or FSR.

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Traditional_Meet_824@reddit

if you get a good deal then 7900XTX is a very capable GPU. I have the 7900XTX Nitro Saphire for Flight simulator hence the RAM

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qkni7@reddit

still 9070 XT, better efficiency, encoder, and usually cheaper.

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TroddenOsprey@reddit (OP)

Thank you.

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CreepyUncleRyry@reddit

enjoy RT/PT with FSR4 on your new 9070XT :\]

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bsgapollo@reddit

Probably the 9070xt, I imagine it's cheaper than the 7900 xtx aswell, but it depends on your usage case, does the extra vram matter to you? do you care about power consumption? if so the 9070xt is the better option cause the 7900xtx uses significantly more power with like +3 monitors even on idle.

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