In December Australia will force all citizens to Upload Id to even access search engines
Posted by demonslayercorpp@reddit | PrepperIntel | View on Reddit | 303 comments
Did yall know that in December in Australia, to access any part of the internet including search engines and social media, they want you to upload a ID and link it to your IP address. No VPNs or you can be arrested. Knowing europe is going the same direction, we can assume the US will follow suit soon. They started with ID verification to access age restricted sites, but watch how it expands to all of the internet. We can probably estimate a rollout of this mandatory ID access by between 2027-2030. Don’t believe it will happen here? In my state of North Carolina, I can assume that most have already uploaded their ids to access porn. Since it’s banned here. I wouldn’t hold my breath for Americans to resist if no other country does
Altruistic_Rest6330@reddit
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Altruistic_Rest6330@reddit
Say no to a dystopian nightmare Australia . https://citizengo.org/en-au/fr/15707
Killzone3265@reddit
well, it's really happening. the internet will die. guys, i know it might sound like i'm exaggerating, but you really should acquire the things you really enjoy before it's taken away
Tacticalpizzamann@reddit
I've been downloading my favorite playlists and videos for a few months, now im gonna have to burn cd's for it all. Hording youtube videos so i dont get bored out of my mind
Killzone3265@reddit
download education. download wikipedia (you can, as text)
and most importantly, catalog who did this to us
Prints4Days@reddit
is wikipedia free and easy to download?
PrettyPoptart@reddit
"Is Wikipedia free" Honestly have you ever been on the internet before? Or are you just stupid?
BallisticBarbarian@reddit
You nasty person. Why lash out like that?
Prints4Days@reddit
i have never been on the internet before please enlighten o jesus christ himself.
chriswhitewrites@reddit
Yes: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
MrLemurBean@reddit
I've been archiving everything and encrypting it all. There isn't one ghoul in the regime that won't have a permanent form of data on them. My current situation only allows me to protest via sharing information and destroying disinformation. Every bit helps. Its the ones that willingly choose to buy into the narrative still that I have given up on, they are a lost cause until they wake themselves up.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
Or, you know, don't freak out and just use the library? Physical books, physical media.
chriswhitewrites@reddit
I work as a historian - my university library is fantastic, but: the vast majority of articles and books I want to read are not purchased as physical items; if I want to submit an article for a journal, that needs to be done online; if I want to look for a new job, all the adverts are online, the application portals are online; I teach, partially in-person, partially online.
In Australia, almost all of our social services are online. Banking is mostly online, and so are all your bills, you pay rent digitally; if you need a new rental, you're going online.
Everything in the last twenty years has moved online - it's cheaper for suppliers to do it, so they did it.
When it was just social media, I was going to just quit social media.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
Are you saying that you can't do anything you listed offline in Australia? Here in the states there is a paper and non-digital option for all of those things. It may be a PITA to do, but you still can. Social services you can go in person or apply over the phone, bills, same thing. You can still pay by check here.
chriswhitewrites@reddit
Those services are designed to discourage in-person access. I know that my rent is 100% online only, and, for example, while I could go down to a real estate agent and inquire about rental properties, I would be limited to the five or six they have on the books, so I would then have to visit multiple real estate agents to find applicable properties.
Going in-person to a welfare office to claim Medicare rebates or whatever would be an actual nightmare - several hours of waiting for a rubber stamp - and then having to do that multiple times a week as I have multiple children who get some form of regular medical care.
It's all designed to make you prefer go online, as it's cheaper for the government. I hope people protest by going exclusively in-person for these services, but that would mean that the people who need to deal with banks, government, or whatever face to face would have restricted access.
scrollingforgodot@reddit
Sir, this is a Wendy's
CharmingMechanic2473@reddit
Our library is almost all digital now for anything current.
IncomingAxofKindness@reddit
r/lostredditors
throwAwayWd73@reddit
Keep in mind, your library selection can be influenced by politicians and special interest groups. Nothing that currently exists is guaranteed to be there when you want it.
Tacticalpizzamann@reddit
Yeah but a library isn't gonna have a ton of info on my favorite interests, ill loose my mind of boredom before the rations run out
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
Books don't update. And you can mass download them, too. Easiest medium to hoard as the text itself takes up very little memory.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
Lol books do update. Have you ever heard of revised editions?
-sussy-wussy-@reddit
Your physical copy won't update :)
muunster7@reddit
What touch real paper?! Are you nuts?!
mhummel@reddit
"Eeerch! Hard copy" :)
adrianipopescu@reddit
libraries in most places also allow you to check out research and various other archived software
No-Language6720@reddit
You can also use Jan instead of chatGPT for some information in the future. It's a client with different LLMs, but you can download it on your hardware and you don't have to be connected to the Internet to use it. You only need to connect to the Internet for it if you need updated information. You can test it by shutting off your wifi/data to your device and use it. It's fully open source and given you don't need to be online it can't easily be used to track you or update future LLMs.
schlongtheta@reddit
Ehhh. Americans will never break free of their mental chains. They'll keep voting for Republicans and Democrats who bi-partisan themselves out of healthcare and bi-partisan themselves into genocides and forever wars in the middle east while they bi-partisan themselves into higher police budget for bi-partisan police who will crack their skulls if they complain about it.
I would love to be wrong.
Tacticalpizzamann@reddit
Don't worry im working on gathering up a bunch of news reports, dates, pictures, etc. of whats happening. Im stashing up on info too, mostly medical, emergency, and how to get out of a country o7
SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit
Ok, I need to ask this...
The fuck does o7 mean? I've seen it a lot of places, but no explanation.
Tacticalpizzamann@reddit
Its a salute, the o is the head and the 7 is the bent arm
SquirrelyMcNutz@reddit
Ok, thank you. That makes a whole lotta sense now.
Tacticalpizzamann@reddit
No problem :)
CoralinesButtonEye@reddit
oi mate! you got a loicense fer that *checks notes* your own files?!
CurrentResident23@reddit
Friendly reminder that CDs wear out. Plan ahead.
carlitospig@reddit
At this point I am 100% okay with no internet. Humanity hasn’t evolved enough to use it without harm.
Killzone3265@reddit
it's not like it's going to turn off, no. look at the direction it's heading instead. across the world all at once, big tech is pushing to tear apart what remains of community. it's going to turn into a propaganda war machine, you will need to be ID logged to access it, and AI will feed you your own profile. If it even lasts long enough to pass a single generation of people, the only ones left to remember what really happened will be those from before.
One-Employment3759@reddit
I believe there will be a resurgence of local adhoc networks. We have the technology and it's much easier than before the internet.
Might still be illegal, but hard to police.
zeeko13@reddit
Cyberpunk was a well-thought out what-if.
hera-fawcett@reddit
older and younger gens are pretty tech illiterate. its v hard to find someone under 25 who isnt more comfortable w apps > computers
multiple friends and coworkers my age (late 20s, early 30s) dont know how to use a computer outside of the internet and their bookmarks.
we might have the tech but apps have really been a killer of informed tech users.
Plankisalive@reddit
Wait, why is that illegal?
One-Employment3759@reddit
It's not currently, other than limits on spectrum use which varies by country.
But if government sees it as just another internet, they'd want the same controls and require registration etc.
abstrakt42@reddit
The connectivity and infrastructure wouldn’t necessarily be illegal, but the content likely would be.
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
Modern DARPANET. That would be kind of fun. Every dude with a plex server and some Ubiquiti or Cisco gear can be running his own little internet.
agent_flounder@reddit
Better go brush up on the uucp man pages...
BearlyIT@reddit
Sneakernet
Cuba already does it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal
CharmingMechanic2473@reddit
Yes, there is a black mirror episode addressing this. Propaganda will win every time.
Welllllllrip187@reddit
And the AI that feeds you data will be controlled by someone else.
Gonna_do_this_again@reddit
So many people are going to have to agree to this because they won't be able to do their job without it. Beyond that, so many people will be ok with this, at least enough to agree to it, because the entire world is completely addicted to the internet.
PurpleCableNetworker@reddit
They are likely passing it off as “protecting the kids” or something like that. It always gets passed as a “security” measure.
Winter_Heart2219@reddit
People will be OK with this because its disguised behind "child safety" and that's not something easy to fight against.
Ellecram@reddit
I will have to. Our data collection system is tied to the internet and we have to use it for a number of other work related tasks.
monos_muertos@reddit
likewise. It's proven what it can do...and so far, "Forbidden Planet" has been proven correct. It will be where I order specific shit like before, and youtube will only be for the science based videos it will allow me to see, but yeah, I think shutting down the substitute for connection will force us to start speaking to one another in real life again...then we can likely resist what we're just putting up with.
BearlyIT@reddit
My small city is terrible about communicating. They finally started posted events and utility news to twitter… just a few months before twitter required an account to view activity. Awesome.
At the most basic level the internet has changed our access to everything. I can search city/county/state laws in an easy to browse format, pay all bills, and protest property taxes after research nearby appraisals… all in a tiny fraction of the time it used to take.
Fire next? Ban matches!
AlfalfaHealthy6683@reddit
No internet then slows to a drip AI and political propaganda. Sounds like a silver lining.
shrimp_sticks@reddit
What I'm terrified of is you basically already need internet access and somewhat of a social media presence to reliably get a job, or even just partake in society. It's getting harder everyday to move away from social media and the internet. So, I can't help but feel like very soon after all this is implemented it'll become impossible to function in modern society without complying with the ID requirement, and people will indirectly be forced to give in and provide their IDs. It feels hopeless. Like there'll be no way to combat this without completely losing all opportunities (jobs, schooling, social, etc).
HarryWiz@reddit
I was just thinking this. Get it now before it's too late.
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
Calm down. Internet didn’t die when a few guys had all your data. It will not die if with Govt having just one pic.
AdAble557@reddit
Like food and water
adrianipopescu@reddit
internet's been dead for a while brother, it's now getting a bouncer to the new bot-run one.
life will find a way, like it did with bbs, like it did with irc, like it did with fediverse
cxraigonex2013@reddit
Good
therapistofcats@reddit
Internet has been on life support for years. It's just clankers talking to toasters.
ptear@reddit
It'll just be my internet won't necessarily be your internet. Let's see how different groups having their own little communication islands work out.
AskAJedi@reddit
Take up amateur radio everyone. It’s fun and there are no subscription fees.
MaracujaBarracuda@reddit
Where can I learn more about this? Is low powered radio the same as meshtastic or something different? I’m trying to learn about all the options. HAM seems easily traceable?
AskAJedi@reddit
It’s just regular ham radio but learning how to do it mobile and with low power so you can’t be found. Morse code travels far with low power for example.
howdocomputerdo@reddit
Doing this as climate change becomes undeniable and unstoppable is some weird timing isnt it lol
demonslayercorpp@reddit (OP)
Thank you for connecting these dots
GrizzlyRiverRampage@reddit
I didn't get it, the dots connect how?
demonslayercorpp@reddit (OP)
There is a estimation that half of the population will die by 2040 because of climate change. The ones that are left will be under heavy authoritarianism.
whoisthismahn@reddit
Can you provide any study or reputable source about half the worlds population dying by 2040? Shit will already be bad enough without having to resort to extreme claims like these
kormer@reddit
The "baby boomer" generation isn't just a US thing, it's seen in a lot of countries that went through WWII. Over the next twenty years, nearly all of them will die off, but that has nothing to do with climate change.
The half number comes from adding some things that are true to some things that are speculation, then blaming it all on climate change.
doyletyree@reddit
TBF, that’s a lot of biomass.
CharmingMechanic2473@reddit
I am also curious. I did see a government site showing a ~40million of decline in US citizen count. With no explanation. It was a govt site forecasting use of services and I wish I recalled where I saw it or took a pic. I was doing research on healthcare and infectious disease at the time. I was incredibly upset and assumed there had to be a data error.
Significant_Path_302@reddit
damn. have you considered that doomsday proselytizing like this bolsters the rhetoric of climate change deniers? half of the global population is not going to die over the next fifteen years due to climate change, that is an utterly absurd prediction.
pjf18222@reddit
????? And the dots still don’t connect what the fuck r u on brother
Prints4Days@reddit
that's not happening lol
LiveReplicant@reddit
Source for VPN's will be illegal otherwise your just using this as Rage Bait
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
BINGO.
Dry_Support3290@reddit
Trump watching Australia going the route Orwell warned us about, and probably taking notes.
Baustin1345@reddit
I'm partially torn.
I am aware the negative impact the Internet, primarily social media, has had on young minds. The negative future effects of AI on thinking. And the negative impact on learning the Internet has had. (Chegg, spark notes, etc.)
I do believe access needs reigned in for the future generations.
On the other hand, I don't like the government in any form. And individual freedom and privacy are the most important parts of civil liberties.
HotRanger2655@reddit
Nothing in that article says you are going to get arrested for using a VPN.
Hannibaalism@reddit
maybe it’s time to bring back p2p?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Or just stop voting in Labor/the conservative bloc
Successful-Memory839@reddit
Please, the Greens would implement this policy faster than you could blink. Vic socialists, exactly the same because they hate people who don't think like them.
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
This is basically all politicians. The only ones speaking out against it here in the UK are the MAGA-lite party and other members of the far right.
CharmingMechanic2473@reddit
Not true.
Nemisis_the_2nd@reddit
Who else is there then? Tories wrote the OSA. Labour were upset it wasn't extreme enough. Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Greens, and other miscellaneous small parties aren't commenting.
The only ones left are Farage and Reform, and this is one of the few stances they've ever been consistent on other than bashing immigrants.
ParaBellumOutfitters@reddit
liberals (a shifting definition depending on the country, yes) are just as guilty of instituting this as conservatives.
Wild-Ruin5463@reddit
its not red vs blue. this is the shit Orwell warned us about and they use political theater to manufacture our consent. the fact that people think like this so common just shows you how fucked we are. power does as power does and this is what those in power want.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
👆👆👆 this dude knows what's up. This is the answer.
No_Opening_2425@reddit
Does it work without trackers that are blocked?
not_the_fox@reddit
If you run a program called BitMagnet it will look at the DHT network that most torrent programs use. It will steadily acquire names and infohashes of more and more torrents as it reaches out. Takes a long time to aggregate, I'm at like 2 million torrents after a few days of aggregating but I can find some pretty niche stuff already. I've seen people say they've cached tens of millions. Doesn't need any trackers.
This doesn't require any trackers.
https://bitmagnet.io/
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
Usenet still works fine.
daviddjg0033@reddit
Google bought it. Cuomo tried to kill it Verizon and T just want out https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
What?
daviddjg0033@reddit
In 2008, Verizon Communications, Time Warner Cable and Sprint Nextel signed an agreement with Attorney General of New York Andrew Cuomo to shut down access to sources of child pornography.[65] Time Warner Cable stopped offering access to Usenet. Verizon reduced its access to the "Big 8" hierarchies. Sprint stopped access to the alt. hierarchies. AT&T stopped access to the alt.binaries. hierarchies. Cuomo never specifically named Usenet in his anti-child pornography campaign. David DeJean of PC World said that some worry that the ISPs used Cuomo's campaign as an excuse to end portions of Usenet access, as it is costly for the Internet service providers and not in high demand by customers. In 2008 AOL, which no longer offered Usenet access, and the four providers that responded to the Cuomo campaign were the five largest Internet service providers in the United States; they had more than 50% of the U.S. ISP market share.[66] On June 8, 2009, AT&T announced that it would no longer provide access to the Usenet service as of July 15, 2009. Read the wiki
Big_Fortune_4574@reddit
No one has accessed Usenet in that way for decades. You pay a small monthly fee for access to an actual Usenet provider with good article retention. Whatever your ISP is offering is going to be useless anyway.
daviddjg0033@reddit
I stand corrected - I remember BBS because I had access to a dial up modem (neighbor) while I had a 1981 IBM 8088 color monitor computer with a 10MB davong external hard drive. I got to play the games he downloaded off the internet. Bill Wilson - if you are out there - thank you for the introduction to the internet.
letscallitanight@reddit
Dialup bulletin boards.
Buttons840@reddit
Sounds like free speech to me.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
JFC Australia, vote your current government into the bin.
Successful-Memory839@reddit
The other guy was a complete fuckwit with his tongue firmly in trump and the mining industries assholes.
Brettelectric@reddit
Australian here. I love it. There's so much trash on the internet, and social media is ruining our kids. I'm completely in favor of age restrictions. Look, they've already got my address on file, because we all have to register to vote. They have my tax file number, my driver's license (which I need in order to drive) and my medicare number. I honestly don't care if the government knows my IP address.
In the end, I trust our system of government with its checks and balances. And we're a democracy, so if they start impinging on our rights to free speech or political organization, then I'll be concerned, but if they just want to verify that I'm an adult before I visit sites that are harmful to kids, how is that any different to being ID checked before I enter a pub, a casino, or get behind the wheel?
DukeOfGeek@reddit
https://www.techdirt.com/2025/08/04/didnt-take-long-to-reveal-the-uks-online-safety-act-is-exactly-the-privacy-crushing-failure-everyone-warned-about/
LarsLights@reddit
We don't really have any rights enshrined in actual law. We don't have a legal right to free speech in Australia.
I also wouldn't trust our government to actual utilise any of the limited checks and balances we have. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-28/whistleblower-laws-failed-superhero-richard-boyle-needs-reforms/105344026
DukeOfGeek@reddit
You didn't drop a /s?
Brettelectric@reddit
Not being sarcastic!
Probably the wrong sub to be sharing this opinion on, but it came up on my feed, and I'm Australian, so I felt I should share my view :)
thisusedtobemorefun@reddit
Unfortunately this move seems to have strong bipartisan support from both the current Labor government (centre-left / centre-right depending on who you ask) and the Liberal / National coalition in opposition (right, would be considersed 'traditional conservatives' or moderates in the US), which means that the minor parties and independents on the 'cross-bench' who opposed the bill had no realistic chance of radically amending or blocking it.
Their votes would usually be critical for one side or the other trying to pass legislation, giving them a position of power to demand changes or negotiate from, but in this rare instance they had no real say at all.
In saying that, I'm anticipating that the government is going to backflip on this pretty hard. The vast majority of people currently have no understanding of how this is being implemented, and won't care until it personally impacts them. The 'we're protecting the kids online' propaganda has been relentless, but I guarantee once people start realising that it's them and not the under 16s who are most affected / inconvenienced by this, whatever widespread support this measure has will rapidly disappear and will be replaced with a public outcry.
The Australian government is also notorious for botching practically every large-scale rollout of new technology, especially when it involves the internet, so I don't expect this will by any different. Considering all of that, I think the chances of them successfully implementing this come December are pretty low.
Slayers_Picks@reddit
It won't be low, it is going to happen lol.
The billionaires will force the government to make this happen. We australians can't protest for shit so I expect that we will all be okay with this.
Brettelectric@reddit
As an Australian, I'm curious what you think the actual downside will be. From what I can see, I'll have to show my ID online if I want to log into sites or view content that is not appropriate for minors. What's the problem with that?
waffledestroyer@reddit
There's a couple issues. Like if the ID is stored on various computer systems and there is a data breach, then it may get leaked on the dark web and that can result in identity theft.
Then also the corporations and governments can connect your ID to your online activities, basically removing any anonymity and privacy. Maybe for the average Joe this isn't the biggest problem, but it is for people who are political or social activists, dissidents, lawyers etc. The government can more effectively suppress dissent and opposition to whatever they are doing.
Brettelectric@reddit
Those are valid concerns, but I've given my ID to so many online sites now that a couple more won't make much difference. The risk of data breaches is going to be there either way.
And our government doesn't generally try to suppress free speech - it's in the constitution. If my speech is out in the open, then the government's attempts to suppress it will be more visible too. If I'm crying out in the public square, it's going to be hard for the police to drag me away without someone seeing it. I think openness and taking responsibility for our speech is the better way.
And as I said in another comment, if the government turned totalitarian, they could immediately implement the enhanced surveillance that we're debating, and then it wouldn't matter if they'd been in place in previous years or not. From then on, anything I said against the government would be seen by them, and they'd come and take me away.
I think the answer is a stronger democracy, not more secrecy and anonymity.
daviddjg0033@reddit
Digital nihilism
waffledestroyer@reddit
I'm not sure if you are a bot or some kind of shill.
Brettelectric@reddit
If you can't respond to any of my arguments, just admit defeat and change your mind. No need to be rude and insult people!
thisusedtobemorefun@reddit
Have you been caught up in any of the multiple enormous databreaches over the last few years? I can almost guarantee you would've, be that Optus, Medibank, Qantas, Medisecure etc.
How long would it take before some lapse in security practices, vulnerability in some third-party software update or sophisticated cyber attack suddenly makes your private government ID-confirmed browsing history and all the accounts it is tied to very public?
That's just one of the low-hanging fruit reasons why this is a terrible idea, and a pretty brazen step towards digital tyranny. The ability to anonymously (if you want to put in the work to do so) express yourself without fear of government persecution has become a hallmark of healthy democracies across the world.
The nations that come to mind when you think of mass digital surveillance, internet censorship, punishment of citizens for criticising the government online etc. aren't exactly bastions of democracy. China, Iran, North Korea, Russia. The path we are on establishes an infrastructure that could be weaponised by anyone in power to lead us into a place much the same as any of those dictatorships, and we should loudly oppose anything such as this policy (no matter how much of a supposedly well-meaning, benevolent purpose it is being sold under) that takes us further down that path.
Brettelectric@reddit
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
My position on things like this is a bit different. For example, I'm OK with the state having a monopoly on violence and the power to surveil, because they work for me, the voter. I see them as being on my side.
I like the police to have powers of surveillance, because if someone abducts my kid, I want the police to know who it was and get my kid back in hours, while they're still alive. I've seen this happen in recent years.
And I want the internet to be a safe place for my kids and my community.
I agree with you that there's the risk that the government might turn totalitarian and start oppressing people, but we live in a democracy, with checks and balances, which makes it very unlikely.
And even if they did turn totalitarian and start locking people up for their political views, having my ID online wouldn't really make a difference. The government already knows my ID, because they issued it. They can see my political views on my facebook profile or reddit. Or they can torture my friends to find out. And they already have the power to come to my house, kick in the door, and shoot me and my family. Moreover, if the government turned totalitarian, they could immediately implement the enhanced surveillance that we're debating, and then it wouldn't matter if they'd been in place in previous years or not. From then on, anything I said against the government would be seen by them, and they'd come and take me away.
I guess I'm saying, if we want to live in a safe society, we need to give the government extensive power in order to protect us and keep the peace. If our democracy fails and the government turns against us, we're stuffed either way. So the most important thing is to keep democracy strong, and right now social media and the dodgy corners of the internet is ruining our kids (our future citizens).
And I don't actually agree that "The ability to anonymously express yourself without fear of government persecution has become a hallmark of healthy democracies across the world." In a healthy democracy, we should be able to express ourselves openly, without having to hide - people publicly declaring their opinions are much more powerful than an anonymous tweet that could be coming from a bot. I actually think that the perceived need to express ourselves anonymously is a sign of a decaying democracy, where people have lost trust in the institutions that hold it all together.
What do you think?
lythrica@reddit
I'd agree with you in a vacuum, but the problem is that a lot of us do not live in strong democracies. Who's going to stop a fascist government from arresting you because you wanted to access queer education materials online? Nothing, in this scenario.
Opening_Hand9377@reddit
The Covid digital passes taught the powers that they actually can implement totalitarian controls without much pushback. When push comes to shove, Australians just roll over.
mhummel@reddit
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DukeOfGeek@reddit
"Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle"
This is especially true when the hands authority rests in suck at doing things.
Crocs_n_Glocks@reddit
The issue is that Australians love their Big Brother watching over and controlling their lives.
(I'm not even kidding - just look at the responses in this thread)
resistelectrique@reddit
Tell me you’ve never been to Australia.
Crocs_n_Glocks@reddit
Yeah you verify I haven't been because the entire country is under video surveillance
BlasterPhase@reddit
As an American, I feel their plight
TtheProphet@reddit
We only voted this year. Got another 3 to go….. unfortunately
Sufficient-Grass-@reddit
Libs were 100% backing internet censoring, they would have done the same or worse, but probably of fucked it up like the did the NBN and everything else they tried to manage.
Street_Adeptness4767@reddit
Unfortunately the alternative is even worse
DukeOfGeek@reddit
https://media.tenor.com/8JPt_m7oyL8AAAAM/empathy-i-feel-you.gif
Successful-Memory839@reddit
Lol, you can take my VPN from my cold dead hands
Easy-Ad1377@reddit
Where in the article does it say that using a VPN to get around this will be cause for arrest?
globalminority@reddit
This is a very overhyped post. It applies only to logged in users, and only talks about penalties for companies, not Australians. If anything the big complaint is going to be that these rules are ineffective. There are privacy concerns, but it isn't clear how age will be verified.
HeartShapedMolecule@reddit
Additionally, these rules only apply to 'logged-in' users. Don't sign into Google etc and the default is blurred images but that's about it. Having a google account isn't good privacy anyway
whatisevenrealnow@reddit
Nowhere. OP just randomly added that insane detail with no citation.
Dwip_Po_Po@reddit
I understand that we are PrepperIntel but we really should try to keep our heads on and breath.
Distinct_Mushroom_63@reddit
“Or you will be arrested” man as an Aussie I can tell you that the cops don’t even have the resources to arrest real criminals
Tradtrade@reddit
That article doesn’t say what you’re claiming at all and Infact mentions that people will just use vpns and doesn’t say anything about vpns being illegal
WorryNew3661@reddit
Where is this international wave of ID requirements for the Internet coming from? Like, why everyone all at once?
Smooth_Tell2269@reddit
Australia has become a leftist conformity state. God forbid if you criticize mass migration.
AndSimonSaid@reddit
Good.
MarcvN@reddit
Can anyone help me determine the trustworthiness of this website/article?
demonslayercorpp@reddit (OP)
? ABC is one of the largest news networks
MarcvN@reddit
Yeah. But it’s not abc.au It’s abc.net.au -> is net.au the real website for abc??
sarcago@reddit
I honestly hate it but part of me wonders if the death of anonymity on the internet will make it stop sucking shit. If it can do anything about all the bots, people trolling, and straight up toxic abuse then maybe it could be a trade off for the better?
I know in the US we’d be at the mercy of whatever oligarchal overlords and administration have our information but I wonder if people would stop acting like asses on the internet the way they generally wouldn’t in public. And also the amount of slop on the internet is sickening, it doesn’t need to exist.
not_the_fox@reddit
The powers that be like AI. They've been desperate for algorithms that generate engagement. Generative AI is a dream-machine, a seemingly endless fountain of engagement. It won't go away no matter how verified or locked down the internet gets. We'll actually have to run from powerful platforms if we want to avoid AI stuff.
HawkeyeByMarriage@reddit
Oh you think that'll stop bot farms run by governments or by people hosted in countries without said rules.
It's going to be a freedom loss for us, not the dictators
sarcago@reddit
Yeah, fair. Just wish we could fix the internet. It is continuously getting more polluted with complete nonsense.
BearlyIT@reddit
Spam phone calls have conditioned many of us to entirely stop answering unknown phone numbers. Tightening a noose around users won’t stop the garbage.
TwistedRichFantasy@reddit
Assuming that the law passes and everyone is forced to upload their IDs anyway, I wouldn’t be surprised if new social media apps are launched that use the new ID system to verify that every user on the app is human or at least tied to a real US ID. This is something I’ve thought about myself. How a ID based verification system-while being extremely unpopular due to privacy reasons-could potentially help foster more good faith debate and deliberation among REAL Americans, and prevent foreign (and potentially domestic) interference in our politics. Imagine the Twitter verification but instead of paying for it you have to verify that you’re not only human but also a US citizen and not a Russian / Chinese troll.
jmnugent@reddit
I wonder this as well. During the covid19 pandemic as places like Twitter and Facebook were attempting to keep up with all the fake accounts,. they were deleting and removing millions of fake users.
The website subredditstats.com (back when it still worked prior to Reddit killing it's API access).. showed that in 18 of the Top 20 subreddits, the most frequent Submitter was /u/[deleted] ... so roughly 80% or more of Reddit is content that's being scrubbed or deleted.
I would personally love it if there were social media (or dating) websites that required validation of Identity. Reputation counts for something and I think people (for far to long) have been escaping the accountability of reputation and it's about time we start enforcing that again, so that anonymous trolls can't just spin up new accounts any time they want to incite more drama.
Zavhytar@reddit
Jesus.... and we made fun of china for this.... this is orwellian.
PrecisionSushi@reddit
I don’t think anyone was “making fun” of China for doing this…I think more of us were concerned about what there were doing and counting down the days until that Orwellian surveillance spread elsewhere in the free world.
not_the_fox@reddit
"Now, there's no question China has been trying to crack down on the Internet -- good luck. (Laughter.) That's sort of like trying to nail Jello to the wall. (Laughter.) But I would argue to you that their effort to do that just proves how real these changes are and how much they threaten the status quo. It's not an argument for slowing down the effort to bring China into the world, it's an argument for accelerating that effort. In the knowledge economy, economic innovation and political empowerment, whether anyone likes it or not, will inevitably go hand in hand." --Bill Clinton, 2000
https://clintonwhitehouse6.archives.gov/2000/03/2000-03-08-remarks-of-the-president-on-china.html
fruderduck@reddit
You’ve heard that Paramount/CBS/SkyDance caved in and will allow “the government” to “influence editorial content,” now, right?
CPUequalslotsofheat@reddit
F Paramount. And Blessings to you for fighting the good fight.
Hotarg@reddit
Helpful reminder that they've lost 1.3 million subscribers this month.
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
In China Govt controls all your data. In the rest of the world, a few creepy guys in the US does. There is no difference.
bigred9310@reddit
The Way I read it it wasn’t mandatory. 🤷🏻
BOT2K6HUN@reddit
coinneach_stiubhard@reddit
The day it happens, I'm going offline permanently.
Factual_Statistician@reddit
I'm In North Carolina I just use the sites that don't ask for my id.
Gygax_the_Goat@reddit
NO ONE here knows this shit is on the horizon.
NO ONE.
RunMysterious6380@reddit
The only people uploading IDs in NC are grandpas. Everyone else uses a VPN.
Special_Disaster_844@reddit
Thinking VPN's will save you no matter what is fucking foolish. These VPN's don't prioritize your privacy. And you think the federal government of whatever country you're from can't at the very least tell you're using a VPN?
Hehehe. Silly goose.
RunMysterious6380@reddit
Did you forget that we are talking about state government level laws, that aren't even enforced for most sites? And that the liability is on the companies for compliance, not the individuals with the existing laws? OP was simply fact checked, because they were poorly supporting their thesis.
Tldr: Wrong tree. Take your barking elsewhere.
IncomingAxofKindness@reddit
Well isn't that the next slip down the slope?
If governments /tech lords decide to go down this path. Wouldn't they come for VPNs next?
I admittedly know little about them. Are VPNs difficult for governments/corporations to subjugate and control if they decide to?
showercurgain@reddit
Hurray for bookstores
IllustratorBig1014@reddit
oh this is some bullshit right here And of course the lamestream media wouldn't cover this takedown of the anonymous internet, except that it won't be really. I'll betcha duckduckgo won't be compliant not mention what will no doubt be an uptick in vpn use.
RadiateDeezNuts@reddit
Also in NC, and I seriously doubt it. Not only can you use a VPN but there are a ton of sites that just aren't actually blocked. Gooners will always find a way.
And yeah, the corporate nanny state is upon us once again. I think it'll persist this time until the first few capitalists are eaten. We'll just need to get hungry enough first.
petsruletheworld2021@reddit
If we aren’t hungry enough now I’m not sure when we will be.
It’s kind of like 2nd amendment idea of getting together to overthrow unjust and tyrannical government. It’s a great idea but who makes the decision.. if you don’t have a mass movement that just materializes then it never happens.
RadiateDeezNuts@reddit
We let them build a surveillance state around us without resistance, then they developed AI tools capable of actually parsing through all of that data and identifying dissidents or undesirables. Realistically, they've got the American people by the balls.
AliceCode@reddit
We're diving head-first into dystopia.
RadiateDeezNuts@reddit
It's much, much worse I think. At least a dystopia has living people in it. The collapse of Pax Americana will be absolutely brutal and possibly civilization ending. People consider this far-fetched, but only because of how shockingly bad it is, not because it's actually implausible. Every hegemony collapse is disastrous, but this one is uniquely positioned to be the most catastrophic event in human history. The USA going fascist is the actual worst case scenario for the world we've built. We intentionally made ourselves the glue keeping the world together after WW2, and we've got drooling morons ripping it apart.
The amount of converging crises we're seeing - resource depletion, climate change, rising xenophobia at the same time as climate migration, anti-intellectualism reaching critical mass across the globe, soaring inequality, the advent of AI surveillance and media manipulation, rising nuclear tensions and proliferation, open support for genocide, China reaching resource parity with a reactionary movement at the helm of the largest military in history - it all just feeds into the next and snowballs into an ever growing disaster. Add to that mix 12,000 nuclear weapons and that's where we find ourselves right now. I don't think many of us will make it out the other side of whatever comes next.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
A big part of how this happened was the continual chanting that it wasn't true. It's like how so many people didn't realize that USAID was a even a thing or how much it did till the food stopped flowing.
daviddjg0033@reddit
When you rip the band aids off it has been the US all the way down. Too many bonds not enough buyers - a tale as old as WWI or way before if you want to rabbit hole. China has more debt to GDP but if their currency inflates it will appear larger than the US in the rear view. I do not know who buys their low yielding bonds or negative rates we saw before.
Small-Help1801@reddit
I really really hope the German obsession with personal privacy will prevent that, I just fucked off to this country. As of the last time I checked it is not among the EU nations implementing this nonsense.
Crocs_n_Glocks@reddit
Thanks, Australia
grummanae@reddit
This right here not only without resistance but with us embracing it and asking for more. I too am guilty of gleefully accepting these encroachments
They have been trying to get 1 person 1 IP address for years mainly its the media corporations pressing for it or so its the story ... to cut down and or make prosecution easier for copyright infringement prosecution.
As far as the data collection ..... thats been done for years ... its just now were getting programs that are able to digest all that data and put it out to someone in a meaningful for them output the biggest threat to personal information. Security is the smartphone and signing up for every rewards program they offer
GalacticGreaseMonkey@reddit
For sure, combined with all sorts of other tools like militarized police forces. All the “well if you’ve got nothing to hide” folks have been complicit in all of this. Once they truly have us by the balls there will be no need to lie to us about anything anymore. Just like we’re seeing now with the Epstein stuff, they don’t care that we know.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
You actually mean ALL people but still, your point stands.
petsruletheworld2021@reddit
Please clarify what you are correcting with All People.
petsruletheworld2021@reddit
Not just that. Politicians of all stripes have done everything they can to create an us vs them mentality and social media has been nudging people into 2 camps as much as they can. They love to “other people” as a way to create these divisions. It’s breaking up communities and families and none of it for our benefit.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
Armed citizens have always been most effective in a defensive posture. When fascist thugs come to your door at 3 AM is a really convenient moment to be armed. If you are a popular opposition leader it can be much more difficult to kidnap you from your armed neighborhood. Once the fascists own the whole government and army though, it doesn't do much.
Until when a significant portion of that government splits off and endorses a much more popular group of leaders and then it's again suddenly convenient to have a bunch of armed supporters. But armed citizens are not particularly effective in an offensive posture unless it's to be orginized by and supportive of a government that finds itself in a difficult moment.
petsruletheworld2021@reddit
Right. That’s the “Well Regulated Militia” part.
The popular belief seems to be that somehow some spontaneous thing will happen. I have heard many YouTubers use the phrase “that’s when we put on the Hawaiian shirts and plate carriers”. It’s all shit talk in practice given the realities.
The closest to what your talking about is happening right now with the government ramping up ICE but only with folks loyal to the administration not the people.
DukeOfGeek@reddit
Governments can always arm people willing to thug for them, you don't need constitutional rights to agree to thug.
No-Language6720@reddit
Yeah don't be so sure. They could easily block all VPN traffic packets if they really want to. That also has the direct consequence of eliminating all work from home jobs. 😉
Planeandaquariumgeek@reddit
Basically it’s a matter of Pornhub refusing to comply with ID laws, there’s a ton of other reputable sites but even better is just kicking the habit lol
PapayaMysterious6393@reddit
I'm in the same state. I bet there are some dumbasses who have uploaded their ID lol
crixyd@reddit
There is some truth to your claims, however
These are all alarming changes though and will likely lead to what you've said, or worse.
nachohk@reddit
Am I the only one who would rather not log into Google or whatever else with a personal account on a work computer? Are we just completely disregarding that not everyone is logged in to everything all the damn time?
crixyd@reddit
Yep exactly, that's being completely overlooked in these policies and one of the reasons they will never work and are stupid af.
HeyLookItsASquirrel@reddit
The death of incognito mode.
LoquatBear@reddit
"not explicitly linked" means it's definitely linked
crixyd@reddit
That's my claim, not theirs. And yes of course IP addresses will be associated with sessions and accounts. My point however is that the responsibility for ID verification lies with the website not the government, and therefore OP's claim that the government is linking ID to IP is not correct.
LanderMercer@reddit
The problem is it wouldn't take much for the value to fall to zero. If the first subscription gets cut (data) more will follow
Internal_Form4341@reddit
I’m Aussie, this is news to me? All that’s happening is they’re going to try to make social media inaccessible for minors
Sauerkrautkid7@reddit
Surveillance except for wealthy pedos
Signal_Ad4831@reddit
What the fuck? sauerkrautkid7 you are a true idiot.
sanityflaws@reddit
Type to make a new Internet :(
Aldoxpy@reddit
Can you imagine how many people are gonna get scammed/phishing into giving their info away?
MistyMtn421@reddit
So stock up on stamps, we can start communicating the old-fashioned ways? Lately I have been hating my stupid smart phone so much anyway. I keep threatening to get a house phone and an answering machine and an old-fashioned flip phone that I can just call and text on. I am over it. I am over a million emails, too many people just wanting answers ASAP. Clients call and text at crazy hours and want an answer right away. And I'm just Petty enough that if you text me after 8:00 at night or on a weekend and you want an answer right away, the more you pester me the longer it's going to take to get an answer out of me.
The promise of all of this technology was to make our lives simpler and more efficient and easier and it is insane. Our brains were not meant to absorb this much information.
carlitospig@reddit
Some of us never stopped using snail mail. But now I’ll be like the queen in my community because my stamp collection is 🔥. Some are even scratch and sniff.
ALL BOW BEFORE MY GLORY! 🥳
Federal_Regular613@reddit
You know they are defunding the post office and trying to get rid of it right?
carlitospig@reddit
Eh they’ve been trying for decades.
MistyMtn421@reddit
Scratch and sniff stamps?! That is so cool.
carlitospig@reddit
They really are and they’re hard to find now. They were made in 2019 I think and have little popsicles on them. I’m not a stamp collector really, but I bought as many as I could just in case because they were so dope.
Alternative_Elk6272@reddit
Like these? ebay.com/itm/226732090295
carlitospig@reddit
Yep! It depends on how they stored them if they’re still scented. Some sellers I don’t think realized that.
Averiella@reddit
I mean sure if you value privacy even less given how you have a physical item with your penmanship, fingerprints👀, and likely address on it for anyone to determine what you are talking about and with whom.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
You don't need to include a name or return address to mail a letter, sir.
human-syndrome@reddit
How is that any worse than now? It might actually get to where it's going without being intercepted.
squirrel8296@reddit
The problem is they're trying to destroy and privatize the USPS as well.
MotherEarth1919@reddit
I tried emailing a letter with cash to a person in Vietnam in 2003 and he never received the letter. They will most likely open mail in the future or scan it for content.
ytman@reddit
But china is bad.
deathacus12@reddit
This is horrible. It won’t stop in Australia, many websites will just require it for everyone to make it easier for them. This the beginning of the end of the internet.
Bozhark@reddit
If you aren’t smarter than the government Nannie’s wel…
wanderingpeddlar@reddit
Wow so much for freedom of speech on the internet.
I bet Taco is salivating over the idea. I bet he will try this with in a week. That way he can go after people that oppose his policy's on the internet.
deadlynightshade14@reddit
Very much doubt the US would ever do that, infringement of constitutional rights and all that.
ChaosAnalyst@reddit
😂
Planeandaquariumgeek@reddit
Actually that could cause it to be blocked by courts, so there is some truth to that. Also in the US we mostly leave stuff like that up to the states
deadlynightshade14@reddit
I mean in a normal America. It would absolutely be an infringement of our rights, however, this is not a normal America.
Planeandaquariumgeek@reddit
Plenty of judges are still sane though
deadlynightshade14@reddit
I don’t think it really matters now that the “big beautiful” bill passed. To my understanding, the verdict of a judge only affects the people who directly sued, and federal judges are no longer allowed to have unlimited nation wide injunctions.
alej2297@reddit
Infringement of constitutional rights? In Trump’s America? Never would dream of that!
deadlynightshade14@reddit
It was sarcasm. I clearly didn’t portray that well enough lmao
alej2297@reddit
Lol. Understood. Either way, It’s more an indictment of our current moment than of your rhetorical skills that it’s hard to tell.
TheSamurabbi@reddit
carlitospig@reddit
The perfect gift for this comment.
WalmartSushi007@reddit
Throwaway2600k@reddit
Sarcasm right
/S
TengenToppa@reddit
VPNs can get you arrested? Guess ill never go to australia since i am never going to open a banking app without a vpn (no way i trust wifi)
PrecisionSushi@reddit
Arrested for using a VPN. LOL
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
I may disagree with this but i am appalled by people’s ignorance. The big tech (and even small tech) already have all your data. They know you too damn well.
So you are willing to give all your data to a creepy guy in the US buy God forbid if your own Govt (over which you have fairly more control then the damn Zuckerberg) ask for anything to make the internet a bit safe.
Makes me think most people dont care about privacy.
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
Zuckerberg not only have your picture from 100 different angles, he also has it every year for last 15 years. He has all your msgs. He has a complete list of your frnds. Locations of where you went. His apps are notorious for tracking other activities of your phone. He bought a vpn and used all its data to God knows what extent. Oh and he also want to include camera and gps in your glasses.
And yet you revolt against your govt for trying to make internet a little better while several creepy guys like Zuck keeps collecting your data.
f47Thunderbolt@reddit
Not with iPhone and Signal app. Totally secure
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
Who has all the iphone data? Including all ur internet and bank activity, your face and god know what else.
f47Thunderbolt@reddit
Apple website:
Apple states that they do not sell user data and collect it primarily for service improvement, personalization, and security
One_Inflation_9475@reddit
“Collect it” is my point here.
yosoyeloso@reddit
There is zero privacy anymore
omniman_balls@reddit
does it effect simple x also ?
darkstar8977@reddit
Europe going the same way?? Mmm, I don't think so. (UK not a part of EU)
f47Thunderbolt@reddit
UK is already censored. You cannot even type “I hate Starmer” anymore. Or go to jail
Buttons840@reddit
Will Google need to see my ID to prove that I'm over 18 while using the account I created 20 years ago?
Teslanet-Lab342@reddit
here is a picture just in case
Teslanet-Lab342@reddit
I have already downloaded the entirety of Wikipedia before Granpa RICO went into office. (29GB) I refuse to be gaslighted by this administration or take their version of history in a slow gulp. If you want to choke on all that coal dust go right ahead.
Data hoard Everything!!! Supermicro 2U 6028R-E1CR24N, Dell PowerEdge C6320, SuperMicro 2U SYS-2028TP-HTTR, Dell PowerEdge R730xd
those are just suggestions off the top of my head. anyways...
If you dont think current admin wants to be worse than RU or CN at censoring your content and living inside ur bedroom closet you are living in a reality that does not exist. They are mad now because they cant get everything stolen from them they earned over their whole life fast enough. Watching the others get their life ruined is just a part of the process. As some would say a "feature of the game".
if this post dont last long idc
Head-Engineering-847@reddit
It always starts with banning guns
Longjumping_Army9485@reddit
Requiring ID for stuff started in Texas…. The state with the most guns in the country with the most guns.
It was “just porn” but it also “just infringed” the first amendment and no one gave a fuck.
It always starts with “protecting the children”.
Head-Engineering-847@reddit
Banning porn absolutely encourages violence
Longjumping_Army9485@reddit
Yet there was none. Because it’s easy to trick people into supporting policy that goes against their best interests, specially if you frame it as protecting the children and start with an inch.
Texans could have had twice as many guns and it wouldn’t have changed a thing.
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Guns arent banned in Australia though. They just have license and storage requirements.
GalacticGreaseMonkey@reddit
The nazis required everyone to register their guns for ownership too. Then when they confiscated everyone’s guns they used the registry to find out who had guns and where they lived. Also, the licensing process itself deters people from owning guns by making it more difficult, and the storage process makes them even more useless. Basically “you can own a gun if we know where you are, what your information and biometrics are, and that you’ll only posses them while stored”
ball_armor@reddit
99% of Australians can never get the license so it’s essentially a ban. Even the ones who can cannot use it for self defense of any kind.
Easy-Ad1377@reddit
Theyre trying to do this in the USA too.
Yknow, the most gun loving country thats ever loved guns.
This aint got shiiit to do with guns.
Electric-RedPanda@reddit
This is unnecessary. And a huge privacy and civil rights nightmare. People need to do better policing their own kids. And tech companies should make filter systems parents can apply that work. Keep kids off your tech if you don’t want them finding stuff you don’t want them to see.
Dirtypman@reddit
Are they going to check it against death records? Just asking for a friend…
ApedGME@reddit
Time to introduce darkweb 2.0; darker web, for newbs. The dark web is difficult to navigate for someone unfamiliar with it, so we should make one that's easier to navigate and more difficult to block and or control. Time to go back to the birth of the internet. Enders Game style of internet.
Superb-Negotiation90@reddit
So how do we go about preparing for this? What should I switch, and what should I switch to? I'm already de googling but I know i will need to do more in preparation. im just not sure what, how are you guys preparing?
demonslayercorpp@reddit (OP)
I am preparing for a life without internet. Downloading maps, ebooks
StuporNova3@reddit
"But that’s the thing! This is the foundation to a “mark of the beast” type tech! Exactly!! Can’t buy or sell without the mark? It’s just you can’t pay your bills like rent or buy food unless you use your internet ID. Probably can’t get a paycheck either. Watch you won’t be able to pay bills snail mail or in person soon. Once this is set up you just link a code to a chip like what’s on your credit card."
Good luck unless you're completely off grid.
Immediate-Pool-4391@reddit
Can't even visit a good porn site without showing your kisser unfortunately.
whoreoscopic@reddit
I think that when this happens if Amazon sees any significant dip in its earnings, they will fight this hard in the US. It all depends on people and if they are willing to give in to this overreach.
Quick_Bet9977@reddit
While this new regulation in Australia is trash most of what OP claimed is not supported by the provided article and is wildly exaggerated.
There is nothing about VPNs being banned. It also says ID is only required if you have a logged in account and doesn't require uploading credentials in most cases and you can use search engines not logged in.
Now certainly these things could be coming down the line and in fact would not be surprising at all. The only positive thing is the Australian government is usually wildly incompetent at actually implementing these types of things so it probably won't work that well in practice.
Afraid_Effect_5606@reddit
Hold the line.
PurpleCableNetworker@reddit
Now is the time to get one of these if you haven’t already:
https://www.prepperdisk.com
Download as many PDF or epubs about survival as you can. Humble Bundle has sales every so often and commonly come with dozens of books at a time.
Also an option: live OS’s attached to a public wifi. Find a crappy laptop that someone is selling a few towns over and pay for it with cash. Or find one at a pawn shop and pay with cash. Grab a thumb drive and load it with some kind of Linux liveOS like Tails: https://tails.net/install/
Don’t use tails at home. Go to public places wearing a not so obvious disguise.
SeaworthinessFlat770@reddit
Feels like we are in 1984
PurpleCableNetworker@reddit
Wow - this is disturbing as hell.
Suspicious-Limit8115@reddit
If the law violates human rights, violate the law! Freedom of information is a fundamental human freedom which shall not be breached.
MycologistPuzzled798@reddit
How will network security work without vpn or similar?
-rwsr-xr-x@reddit
Mesh network. LoRA communications. We don't need the Internet to share information, nor to communicate VERY broadly amongst each other, and fully encrypted.
Jetshadow@reddit
How would they even know you're using a VPN? Even so, it sounds like there should be protests across the country about this, and more than one of the politicians who voted for it should be tarred and feathered.
Wise-Force-1119@reddit
Red states will be up in arms, I would think.
SamWest98@reddit
The ISP will know
ctilvolover23@reddit
Okay. That's just way too much if true.
AntiSonOfBitchamajig@reddit
Visa and Mastercard are pushing this hard too.
UpTheRiffMate@reddit
Buying Private Internet Access VPN for torrents and geo-blocked content has been the gift that keeps on giving...
MotherEarth1919@reddit
After 9/11 the US government made our library access trackable. We also have to log in, in order to use the internet. The surveillance state has been a slowly heating up pot, and we are about to get boiled.
AnomalyNexus@reddit
Source? Doesn't seem to be in article
MainlanderPanda@reddit
Yeah, that’s not correct. Pretty sure the onus is on the tech companies to ensure we don’t use a workaround - they’re the ones wearing the fines.
ChilledRoland@reddit
Key excerpts:
MainlanderPanda@reddit
It’s also the case that companies like Google will be permitted to use their own data to calculate your age. I’ve had a Google account for about 15 years, and have Google Pay with an attached credit card. Google knows how old I am, so I won’t be needing to upload extra ID. Which is terrifying in its own way, but the reality is the horse bolted a long time ago in terms of online privacy.
OkShoulder2@reddit
Honestly, half of all traffic is from bots. Granted not all countries make this application so it only really works if others apply it but I think it’s starting to become necessary. I get the argument but I wonder how social media changes when we can bring down the number of bots.
Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836@reddit
How else can the government monitor us for not embracing their toxic Christians values while using the internet. If they dont like what you search for, they can dox you and cut off your access, just like darkness excommunication from the church. But not it will be internet abandonmnet.
Sk8rToon@reddit
But that’s the thing! This is the foundation to a “mark of the beast” type tech! Exactly!! Can’t buy or sell without the mark? It’s just you can’t pay your bills like rent or buy food unless you use your internet ID. Probably can’t get a paycheck either. Watch you won’t be able to pay bills snail mail or in person soon. Once this is set up you just link a code to a chip like what’s on your credit card.
They’re digging their own grave!!
NSlearning2@reddit
Honestly Reddit is shit now. I’m not seeing new post. It’s been two days and it’s all old shit. This post is one of the few new posts in my fed. I’ve seen this two other times in the past. I’m just tired of this crap. Ready to give up the internet now.
Evening-Ad5765@reddit
Welcome to authoritarianism. You have to shoot your way out, sadly no guns available.
El_Intoxicado@reddit
Australia and UK are two sides of the same coin
They wanted to apply a legislation that is not only possible technically without any disadvantages to everyone but making big holes in the credibility and political system of the "free world".
The Internet is naturally descentralized and new forms to override and avoid these infamous measures will be created and governments will try to fight this in vain.
Even big tech companies are heavily affected by these measures and are trying to buy some time "collaborating".
Remember SOPA and PIPA and keep fighting!
NSlearning2@reddit
It will be the end of the internet for me. Fuck that noise.
Blueporch@reddit
Australia has been draconian with ISPs for a long time, and sacrifice privacy for security more readily. This doesn’t mean other countries will follow their lead.
Although I do think some of their ISP level scam prevention would be helpful to users.
eric_ts@reddit
So, Australia has less internet freedom than the PRC? The US is soon to follow. I will be saving a lot of money by not having any streaming services or Amazon access. I will have to be sure to have my papers on me when I travel to town once a week for groceries, with the permission of the authorities. I will have to learn to love the dictator.
Planeandaquariumgeek@reddit
The UK’s population is pretty pissed off about this, and from what I can tell the pattern is that this happening in Commonwealth countries so I think for now this is mostly gonna be a nothingburger elsewhere, but definitely something to watch. Also honestly I see the logic, because keeping kids off the internet is honestly a good thing.
Dick-Swiveller@reddit
Australia circling the drain; do their drains circles the opposite way in the antipodes ?
there_was_no_god@reddit
oppression by proxy, for not using a proxy. hmmm....
nighshad3@reddit
VPN?
Ricky_Ventura@reddit
Not a traditional VPN. Something like TOR might be able to get around it.
Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit
Will this stop if Bonnie Blue takes it back?
mojeaux_j@reddit
I'm ready
DPJazzy91@reddit
VPN to the rescue!
smokymirrorcactus@reddit
I have Terabytes of porn I’ll be good
carlitospig@reddit
Holy hell. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Well, someone did it: they finally figured out how to get us out of this horrible mess, the death of the internet. Praised be the snail mail and lack of propaganda. 🙏🏼
jcmach1@reddit
Time to recreate FIDOnet...
Bob4Not@reddit
It’s been pleasant conversing with this community, I’ll miss this sub.