Looking for a new job here is so frustrating

Posted by boldjoy0050@reddit | Dallas | View on Reddit | 246 comments

I am looking for a new job and most of the openings I see are in Irving, Frisco, and Plano. Very rarely do I see any in downtown Dallas. Why don't companies want to have their offices downtown like in most other cities across the country?

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lurkerlurking123@reddit

Most of the stuff happening is in Frisco/Plano area. Unfortunately the downtown area isnt the center of action, its a shill of what it used to be.

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SprinklesRemote5211@reddit

Msg me

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thelazysob@reddit

Having lived in Dallas since the 70's, I will say that Dallas was never a "city" like other cities across the country.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

I understand this. Dallas feels more like an overgrown small or medium sized city rather than a large dense city.

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

During the pandemic most of them shut down their downtown offices and eventually found better leases in the outer cities where most of their employees and executives lived.

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BigCut4598@reddit

Even the companies that have downtown office space are consolidating and don’t want to pay for it anymore.

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SBR2TH@reddit

My mom has worked in the Bank of America building for two decades and they told her they are moving her division to Addison now because that building is too expensive.

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Midnight-69@reddit

Rent is too expensive for a fkn bank brother wth

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DonkeeJote@reddit

The whole building isn't a bank lol

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Midnight-69@reddit

Was missing critical info 💀💀 ig they're fine lol

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Midnight-69@reddit

So the bank can't even rent part of a building in Dallas gotcha 👍

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saplinglearningsucks@reddit

Bank Of America is building a tower in Dallas right now.

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saplinglearningsucks@reddit

There's literally going to be a new Bank of America tower near Klyde Warren that is being built right now.

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erod100@reddit

They normally have other tenants not just BofA employees. The building GoldmanSachs is building will also have other tenants.

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saplinglearningsucks@reddit

BoA will have at least 10 floors of office space in the new tower.

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ineedthenitro@reddit

Agreed, I have always worked downtown and have taken the train. I have turned down jobs because they’re so far north (frisco, Plano, south lake) and I live in north garland. I’ve been blessed taking the train to work so it’s really hard to accept a job not on the train line or super far north. I also think working in the suburbs in an office park is just so depressing vs working in or near downtown.

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Annaortiz321@reddit

Where do you work? I’m in Finance and looking for a Downtown job

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Emergency-Shoe5792@reddit

Lived in Waxahachie, worked hybrid in Dallas, on 75, drove in 2x/week. Company moved offices to Las Colinas and called people back into office 4x/week. Commuting from Waxahachie to Las Colinas during rush hour is possibly the stupidest thing ever. I completely moved away from the DFW area. Y'all can have that.

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ALD3RIC@reddit

Because most people do not live in downtown and don't want to commute in the insane congestion that would create (on top of the already bad traffic).

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Careless-Ad-6328@reddit

1. Rental rates are insane 2. Traffic is horrible 3. Parking for employees is a nightmare 4. Even with cops on nearly every corner, it's still incredibly sketchy even in the "nice" areas with all sorts of twitchy people shuffling around giving everyone the evil eye. 5. Services aren't well and evenly distributed. You'll get areas with just office buildings, but no restaurants (or vice versa) and so on 6. Transit is a joke, so if you live outside the downtown area, you HAVE to drive (see traffic and parking above) The value vs the cost of having a downtown office is just bonkers. It doesn't make any sense anymore.

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kabob21@reddit

This is why I live in north Dallas despite it being the most boring part of town. It’s “centrally located” to the north suburbs while still being not too far away (traffic aside) from city center. Rent and development is getting steep here though like everywhere else in Dallas.

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JoMA9@reddit

I’m sorry you’re having trouble finding a job, but the amount of people commenting about downtown that clearly don’t know enough nor live down here is ridiculous. Downtown is not perfect by any means, but within the last five years, the residential population has ballooned by almost 10,000 people. A lot of the companies leaving downtown aren’t going to the suburbs. They’re going to Uptown for the newer builds. Downtown has suffered some job losses, but professional firms have actually expanded. I am married to an attorney at a big firm in the Comerica Tower, and they just expanded their office. I’d say your problem might be what type of job you’re looking for or profession you’re in that may be why you can’t find something closer to the CBD. Downtown and Uptown are dominated by big financial, business and operations, and professional services like law. It’s gonna be difficult finding a job if it doesn’t fall within those three realms.

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Realistic-Chance-679@reddit

Try Dallas County! I'm at DCHHS in downtown Dallas and I love it. Full benefits and a pension if you stay long. Google Dallas county jobs.

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dagoodnameswuztaken@reddit

Isn't pay like $14/hr for city jobs though? Last I looked at their listing the pay was too low :(

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Realistic-Chance-679@reddit

Depending on the position and your skill set as well as qualifications, the pay can be either low or high. My husband has an HVAC license with many years of experience and was making anywhere between 22 to $25 an hour. And I say 22 because he was started off at 22 but had to pay increases within one year because of his abilities and his experience. I am at $19 an hour and I am told at the position that I am, I'm being paid the highest as a new hire, but there are also promotions to be considered. I will not make $19 an hour for the rest of my life here, every year especially if I qualify for it, I will get a promotion.

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youngmeech86@reddit

Because downtown Dallas is one of the most decrepit downtowns there is for a major city. It's expensive, horrifically laid out, difficult to get to and the parking is trash. People don't live in downtown and there's more entertainment options outside than there are inside of it so companies are going where the people are to make themselves more appealing. Most people would much rather a 10-20 minute drive through the suburbs to get to work than a 45-60 minute drive into downtown with all that traffic.

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Pale-Succotash441@reddit

The last data report shows that 13K + people live in downtown. That’s quite a lot for 1.4 square miles. It could be even better if it wasn’t a parking lot jungle.

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youngmeech86@reddit

That is extremely low. Even downtown LA has nearly 90k residents, and there's a literal tent city down the street at skid row.

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Pale-Succotash441@reddit

LA is over 3x the size as Dallas though

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youngmeech86@reddit

In terms of people yes, in terms of size the difference isn't nearly that big. It's less than 1.5x the size of Dallas.

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Pale-Succotash441@reddit

Downtown LA is close to 6 square miles; downtown Dallas is close to 1.5 square miles. We’re comparing apples to oranges. Now if the city of Dallas would do something about the parking lot desert situation and build parking garages upward, then the residential footprint could grow substantially.

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CodyS1998@reddit

That's a very small number for a city population of over 1 million.

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DesperateAd8982@reddit

Dallas is ranked 20th in US based on land area. The city of Dallas sprawls over 340 square miles.

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CodyS1998@reddit

And that there's so little housing downtown is part of the reason that it sprawls so badly.

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Mysterious_Box_727@reddit

Haven't they converted over half the nicer towers to housing?

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liquidnight247@reddit

It’s really not a lot

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Dick_Lazer@reddit

I love how much of this is centered around driving and parking. Dallas is fucked.

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youngmeech86@reddit

Dallas is probably the least walkable major city I've ever seen in the world, and that includes over half a dozen major cities in both the US and Europe as well as Tokyo. It's honestly just kind of there. My office is right off Klyde Warren park and pre-covid a coworker and I would go take walks during lunch around the year and marvel at the fact that you could walk 100+ yards between people in the center of a major city like that. That is primarily due to the fact that it was and continues to be built around cars.

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the1general@reddit

This just convinces me further that the main motivator behind urbanism is just to fuel alcoholism.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

> Gables McKinney above whole foods for example starts at 3600 for a 2 bedroom That's mental pricing. My friend lives in NYC and pays significantly less than that for a 2br.

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youngmeech86@reddit

That's one of my biggest problems with the dfw as a whole but especially Dallas. It prices itself in the realm of a NYC or LA without having anywhere near as much to offer those places, the amenities just aren't comparable. But that's the thing about Dallas, is it compares itself to those cities and doesn't admit it but does emulate those areas. And if the leadership had their way, it'd be even more expensive because the mayor thinks Dallas should have a second pro NFL team in south Dallas because LA and NYC have two even though they have no way to get to cowboys stadium from Dallas because of the dearth of public transportation so I doubt they would create that for a new team and that traffic would just radiate outward and make things even more congested. For what it offers, Dallas might be one of the most expensive places I've been. I've gone to grocery stores not even in Dallas, but in mid cities areas and found they were more expensive than when I was in Tesco and Sainsbury's in London. It's already pricing people out and it's bordering on the verge of collapsing under its own desire to be so expensive.

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liquidnight247@reddit

Well said

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ineedthenitro@reddit

Agreed on everything but there is so much parking downtown…especially the east side before hitting 30. And then near the aquarium. And then near the west end…downtown is literally like 3 major streets lol.

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Lanky-Highlight9508@reddit

People have been trying to make downtown happen for decades. Not enough people live there to make it feasible. Deep Ellum and Fair Park are too close. There are some sparks like Klyde Warren and museums. Too expensive and no where to park, grocery shop and live.

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HoneyIShrunkMyNads@reddit

Wait nowhere to park? That's a joke right?

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dkv-texas@reddit

Parking per employee is $150-$200 downtown, free in the ‘burbs. When my office relocated it was the number one complaint.

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Pw285rphil@reddit

I work downtown and we pay $50/m so $600 a year

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DesperateAd8982@reddit

For real. I lived at the farmers market and worked downtown on St. Paul so I would walk to work… I walked through 4 separate giant empty parking lots every day

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youngmeech86@reddit

But so much of the parking is valet like it's really necessary in Dallas. I do find it interesting that you lived over towards Camden and walked downtown because of every city I've been to globally, I see the least amount of people walking anywhere in Dallas. It's a mile from the middle of downtown to the middle of deep ellum or vice versa and for the life of me I've never known anyone to walk from one to the other the entire time I've been there, people will always uber.

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nihouma@reddit

I mean part of the reason is that its a miserable walk between downtown & Deep Ellum. Of the streets that go to Deep Ellum, half have missing sidewalks (example, on Main on the north side theres a stretch missing sidewalk right under 345, so if you forgot to cross at the prior intersection you're stuck walking nowhere, plus it crosses a highway exit that people come down speeding), or the sidewalks are constantly covered in dirt that turns to mud when it gets wet, and theres very little shade except the parts under the freeway. And the city has very little interest in improving the situation, they're just waiting for TxDOT to redo 345 first. I've made the walk, and its miserable. I live downtown and just take DART instead (significantly cheaper than Uber and theres several buses plus the Green line so usually the wait is much lower than Uber)

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youngmeech86@reddit

That's the kind of thing I'm talking about, is that there is so much that isn't pedestrian friendly while at the same time these leaders are just blind to common sense improvements. I recall when I worked in a restaurant before, the mayor and what I think was the chamber of commerce came in for a dinner and they were talking about how Dfw is the fourth most traveled airport in the nation and trying to figure out strategies to convert those numbers into people visiting instead of passing through. I'm like, make it so visitors don't have to rent a car or budget hundreds in freaking Uber to get around and maybe people would visit more. Nobody wants to go on vacation to drive a car in freaking traffic.

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nihouma@reddit

I love DART and live car free, but man ) that Orange line con nction at the airport has so many issues. If you have checked bags (common for families traveling), then unless it's American you have to take a shuttle bus to your terminal. Last time I took a shuttle bus at the airport, I had to wait nearly 30 minutes for it to come to take me to the Orange line, only for me to have to wait 20 minutes for the next one because I arrived just as it was pulling away. I'm okay with dealing with that, but most people are going to choose to drive and never take transit again with those kinds of experiences

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MassiveBallacks@reddit

I wonder if DART should've stopped at more terminals or if the Sky train should've been available for pre-security use

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nihouma@reddit

Personally, I think the Orange line and the TexRail/Silver line tracks should he moved down to connect to the other terminals, with upgraded walksways between the stations at each stop. Skytrain post security was absolutely a necessity to make transfers less of a hassle, now we just need to improve the rest of the airport's connection to transit. Unfortunately theres more pressing transit needs that I believe shoupd he addressed first. Most of DART's bonds shpuld be paid off by 2045, and we'll have a heckuvalot more budget for capital expenditures at that point - part of the reason DART struggles with frequencies is because we fastracked the rail system build-out. In the meantime if we can get the cities to build more densely around transit stations and keep pushing for biking and pedestrian improvements everywhere, but especially near stations and along frequent bus routes, it will do a lot to improve the current situation. I think DART is good, but it needs more to be great

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

> now we just need to improve the rest of the airport's connection to transit. I'd love to see a train that goes to different terminals and rental cars. A lot of other airports have this.

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youngmeech86@reddit

That's the kinda thing I'm talking about. It's not built around any sense of convenience especially for visitors and pedestrians at large, that doesn't involve using your own vehicle and then you'd have to pay airport parking and that adds up fast. I always hear people talk about how Texas doesn't have state tax and I'm like your vehicle, transportation costs and time. Those are your state taxes.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

> Nobody wants to go on vacation to drive a car in freaking traffic. Only exception is LA but they get an exception because it's LA.

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liquidnight247@reddit

Yeah it’s not fun to walk a mile in 100F or pouring rain

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

I used to live right by the ATT building. They bought up as many of the lots as they could, including building garages. They tried to buy the garage we parked in under my building and the owner told them to F off. They did buy the garage for the lofts behind us though, one of my friends was told by management to find other parking arrangements.

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liquidnight247@reddit

Yeah and it costs $12-$20 to park there per day. You do the maths.

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DowntownSalt2758@reddit

There may be parking lots but it is hard to find parking often in areas that are close to where families want to go like Klyde Warren park when there are events. The areas you mentioned that have empty lots, aren’t they near homeless shelters? That general area didn’t seem safe to park with a family or easily accessible with someone with strollers etc. Maybe it’s changed. I don’t recall lighting in that area either. The parking around farmers market has greatly improved over the years which is great. It used to be impossible.

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BitGladius@reddit

If you aren't already downtown it can feel that way - most places in the suburbs have free on-site parking, if you're not going to a major destination downtown and don't know the area it's going to take a while to track down a lot and then there's a charge.

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Mister_Scotch@reddit

This answer is from the 90s. Downtown Dallas and especially uptown is thriving.

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youngmeech86@reddit

Thriving? They're virtual ghost towns. My office is literally on Klyde Warren and I'd walk a mile down to Katy trail to walk the trail for lunch and in that mile to the trail if i were to pass 20 people that would be a lot. At least before covid uptown was more bustling but several places have shuttered since like liars den, golds gym, sisu, mortons steak, renfields corner, jakes burgers and that's not a comprehensive list of even uptown nor does it even get into downtown. I don't know how you can say an area is thriving when on one of the handful of main streets there's a large number of businesses that have been closed for a number of years.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

It's pretty typical for cities to have a business area or financial area in downtown. Manhattan has one, Chicago has one, San Francisco has one. People generally don't live there because it's boring and there aren't even grocery stores.

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youngmeech86@reddit

There is tons of stuff to do in downtown Manhattan and Chicago relative to Dallas and they are much more traversable than Dallas is without a car.

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DonkeeJote@reddit

The financial district of Manhattan is hardly a cultural scene.

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youngmeech86@reddit

True, but that's not all of downtown Manhattan and that's a huge difference. Downtown Manhattan includes Soho, Greenwich village, east village, Chinatown, Tribeca. I think anybody would be hard pressed to say those aren't lively or cultural areas.

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DonkeeJote@reddit

Of course they are lively cultural areas, but that's why it's not a good idea to compare downtown Dallas and all of Manhattan. Downtown Dallas, aside from Deep Ellum, is strictly the financial district with a handful of municipal areas.

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youngmeech86@reddit

I didn't include all of Manhattan. I literally just included downtown aka lower Manhattan. The places I listed barely even go past Washington Square Park so it's like 10th street. That said, if you want to just reduce downtown to the financial district it still has way more to do and see than downtown Dallas. Much more in the way of bars, restaurants, clubs, parks, and sights. Historic buildings and tourist attractions. The south side seaport and the walks along the river as well as the piers. I stayed in a hotel there 2 month ago and saw a healthy amount of people out at any time off the day, from 1 am going to the next spot to going for a run at 7 and walking through the area after noon. The number of people I saw just outside of the seaport is more than I see across downtown Dallas as a whole.

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TheRon_Says@reddit

FIDI in manhattan wasn’t that way even just 10 years ago. The weekends and past 9pm were a ghost town. They’ve done a lot to make it less “financial center” and more livable

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Total-Lecture2888@reddit

Even then, the financial district is a snooze compared to the rest of manhattan.

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23mou-sapnu-puas@reddit

You clearly have never been to San Francisco FiDi or Detroit

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DonkeeJote@reddit

The mission isn't in the financial district.

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23mou-sapnu-puas@reddit

That’s why I said OR. Mission OR FiDi. They’re both downtown. I lived there and walked to work. It looked like a warzone

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DonkeeJote@reddit

I don't think you know what war zones look like then.

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23mou-sapnu-puas@reddit

Are you just lookin to argue today or what?

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DonkeeJote@reddit

Urban fear mongering is a sign of a limited capacity for empathy and wielded by the weak.

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23mou-sapnu-puas@reddit

Ah huh. 🙄

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South_Loss4999@reddit

Depends on your perspective, but having also lived / worked in SF recently for a long time, the Mission in SF has tons of great restaurants, bars, and one of the prime weekend destinations for the young people that live in SF. Dallas downtown is not even a comparison.

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youngmeech86@reddit

My dad lived in San Francisco for over a decade. Starting in the 2000s, I've been several times.

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LeHoustonJames@reddit

I visited FiDi recently and it didn’t seem too bad imo

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Agreeable-Dog-1131@reddit

i’m a full time pet sitter and i can tell you people do, in fact, live in downtown. can’t for the life of me understand why, though. i hate it so much i don’t even take clients there anymore.

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nihouma@reddit

I live downtown and I like it aside from the incredibly loud street racing that happens at night, and the lack of a grocery store. If those two things were fixed I'd probably want to stay in downtown Dallas, especially if you live without a car. As is though Im looking to move a bit outside downtown where I can have a grocery store within a short walk, and easy access to trails and greenery (I'm find with downtown being a concrete jungle, but downtown also is severely lacking in greenspace compared to other major cities)

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DrDestruct0@reddit

Clearly you’ve never been to Seattle lol

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youngmeech86@reddit

I haven't though it is on my shortlist; that said I've been to a fair amount of large cities across the globe and Dallas is among the worst ones pretty easily

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Jernbek35@reddit

Downtown Dallas is extremely underwhelming and it’s a nightmare to get to on 75. Land is cheaper out in the burbs where it’s bigger and more families and their workers live.

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dagoodnameswuztaken@reddit

A nightmare to get to 75 from downtown?? How? It's seriously one or two turns.. like a straight shot from downtown, turn on Cesar Chavez and 75 is right there lol

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Jernbek35@reddit

It’s a nightmare to get to downtown from 75 for workers that don’t live there. Which most families don’t.

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dagoodnameswuztaken@reddit

Aah! I misread!! Yes it suuucks getting to downtown from 75 AND 35 😭traffic and exits that make no sense haha construction and closed lanes

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

I lived downtown for about five or six years before 2020. Last third of that time they closed through streets, and started construction on highway exits/entrances that made no sense.

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the1general@reddit

Because their employees want to live in the exurbs and employers that move there have a competitive advantage. Nobody wants to commute to downtown Dallas. All the action is happening up north anyways.

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DaresToLive@reddit

I mean did you see trumps current jobs report? MAGA will say it’s a Biden collusion to undermine trumps big beautiful efforts.

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Matthew6_19-22@reddit

Couldn’t even go one post without mentioning Trump.

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DaresToLive@reddit

Just to be clear to everyone. That number just got revised from 147,000 to just 14,000. The May number also got revised from 144,000 to 19,000. They thought the US added 291,000 jobs over May and June but in reality it added a total of 33,000

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Soft_Plastic_1742@reddit

They revised Biden’s Q3 numbers down by almost 900K jobs. It’s non partisan data.

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liquidnight247@reddit

Bunch of liars. And he will fire anyone who wants to issue the real numbers and stories of this economy.

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studiosupport@reddit

*Conversation about the American economy* "Christ, you people can't go five minutes without bringing up the president!"

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onlinealias350@reddit

I believe OP post was inquiring as to why most corporate offices are located in the ‘burbs instead of downtown? That’s pretty much it… Quickly, comments veer off course to the left, then to the right, back to the left then right again, etc. Discussion turned into a virtual finger pointing game filled with political downs. until a The comments would be on point if OP asked, “What political party is to blame for corporate offices moving to the ‘burbs?” If you have a minute, Google the topic,“discussing religion and politics in mixed company.” No matter who you voted for, have a wonderful weekend!

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Ok-Scientist69@reddit

Yeah it makes sense that the president of the United States is relevant to conversations about the job market. Turns out that policies affect the economy. Who would’ve thought?

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falilth@reddit

Oh fuck off. Its a valid complaint pedo protector

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MrBizzniss@reddit

It’s literally trump’s fault you fucking dunce.

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Limp-Corner-6993@reddit

It’s pertinent

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Kellosian@reddit

We spent 4 goddamn years with "Biden's inflation" and "Biden's bad economy", MAGA couldn't stop themselves from blaming literally everything on Biden Sorry that Trump's bad economic policies are ruining the American economy, maybe next time don't vote for the guy promising to heavily tax all imports and deport the labor pool.

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liquidnight247@reddit

How long will he be able to blame Biden? I mean at some point surely this excuse expires even for the MAGA die hards?

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Kellosian@reddit

They've been deep in a cult for like a decade, so far the only thing that has broken through to them is Trump's close relationship Epstein (probably because "Secret pedophile ring for the global elites" was a huge core of QAnon that got absorbed into MAGA proper)

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Matthew6_19-22@reddit

1. I’m not a Trump supporter nor did I vote for him 2. OP was asking a question and you interject with this rant about Trump, and although I agree there’s no need for it. I found the answer unhelpful. The terrible job market has lasted far beyond just trump’s term but i understand that this is Reddit so.

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Wonderful_Horror7315@reddit

He’s a shadow of doom over this country and most of the world. I couldn’t even shop for wine last night without seeing his stupid name on a bottle of sauvignon blanc. He’s basically omnipotent at this point and all roads lead to Hell and him.

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MopsyTat@reddit

Nah, Trump just fired the Bureau of Labor Statistics commissioner because it's as "fake as the election." They'll choke on that being fake as well, because of course, he is the most persecuted person in American History.

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metalforhim777@reddit

Sadly, the first two letters currently do not spell the word we want: pROsecuted, not pERsecuted.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

There’s more to life than identity politics bro. Zoom out and see the whole picture.

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FaxxMaxxer@reddit

For someone who’s being patronizing towards the person you’re replying to, you aren’t even using identity politics in the right context. The word you’re looking for is “politics.” And I would say they seem to have a decent grasp of the picture.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Please, educate me more.

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Dick_Lazer@reddit

Well for one, Trump's tariff policy is wrecking the economy. His policy toward immigrants is destroying tourism. And his cuts to public services like Medicaid are taking money out of the pockets of people who would put it right back into the economy, and giving it to billionaires who will just hoard the wealth.

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Enough_Equivalent379@reddit

Some factual evidence of all that would help your argument.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

Just remember this moment for the next 4 years. It takes time to tank an economy. The seeds have only just been planted.

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Enough_Equivalent379@reddit

Time will tell I guess.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

That request was clearly rhetorical, but thank you anyways.

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Beautiful_Welcome_33@reddit

You are an absolute moron

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DaresToLive@reddit

Idk bro, I just know there’s a lying piece of shit who is president. All the bills they’re passing and shit come on bro, idk if you can’t open your eyes I can’t hold them open for you all your life.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

It’s telling that you consider Trump and MAGA to be your identity.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

That sure is an assumption.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

Well then you should consider your reaction. And look up what identity politics is.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

No. What I’ll tell you is I think Trump is fumbling the economy and has shown no sign of setting the course. Given that, you have not seen “Trump’s economy” yet. There are substantial lags with this type of data, not to mention other drivers. I think at this rate, the numbers will be even worse, at which point I will blame him. You’re upset at the wrong people right now.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

> You’re upset at the wrong people right now. That sure is an assumption.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

You’re upset with me, no? I can assure you I am not the one.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

I have no opinion about you, other than what I considered a hilarious self-own initially. You thinking I’m upset at you says about you once again says more about you than me. You accuse me of making assumptions, but really you’re just projecting like you were about the identity politics. I’m upset with our politicians who sell their constituents out to corporate overlords for personal enrichment at the detriment of the long term health of our country. If anything, I just feel pity for people who vote against their self interests because of binary thinking.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

I’m not reading all that 😂 If you’ve got nothing intelligent to say about the issues we face as a nation, then be gone.

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zardfizzlebeef@reddit

You haven’t said one intelligent thing in all your replies….

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

That’s because you cannot recognize it.

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spacedman_spiff@reddit

What’d you say? (Other than declaring you wouldn’t read my response)

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studiosupport@reddit

> I’m not reading all that Like you could.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Oh, now that’s just lazy. Is that all you could come up with?

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BBQandBitcoin@reddit

Middle ground is fading away, and we’re become ever more radical on both ends of the political spectrum. I’ve checked out on support from both parties tbh. The radical left is degraded, and the right is tyrannical.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Correct.

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liquidnight247@reddit

How long do you think the lag is? Genuine question

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

To answer your question though, I think the timeline is just about here. FED chair is likely going to be forced to cut in Sep and by then inflationary pressures from tariffs will be really setting in.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

I’ve been developing a dashboard for years that has a feature to show you exactly this. It allows you to select different economic data series and then it plots the correlation at different lags and leads. It’s powered using FRED data. Another great feature is my normalization plot. Typically, you can’t put something like the interest rate and the national debt on the same graph, they are on vastly different scales. I normalize the values between 0-1, allowing you to keep the structure and plot on the same scale.

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girafa@reddit

> you have not seen “Trump’s economy” yet. My brother in christ, he's already fired over 150k people and *you're in a submission about jobs.*

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

You’re referencing him wrong because you don’t understand the situation. It’s so telling how you all live in the present. Your mind cannot conceive the leads and lags of this type of stuff. So one dimensional, and obvious.

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Farm_Professional@reddit

Politics affects you whether you believe in it or not.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Why of course.

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dungeoneremite@reddit

Found the MAGA

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

You would make a poor detective.

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MaverickTTT@reddit

*Looks at profile.* *Sees “John Galt”* So, the one kind of person with less of a grasp on reality than a MAGAt: an Ayn Rand libertarian.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

I know saying these things makes you feel better, but the thing about having a grasp on reality is…it’s an absolute. You either do or don’t, and it shows in how your life develops and what goals you achieve.

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dungeoneremite@reddit

You would make a poor politician

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

I’d never want to be any such thing.

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dungeoneremite@reddit

Thank goodness

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Is that it? 😂

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dungeoneremite@reddit

It was it from my first comment you just keep going

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liquidnight247@reddit

I look at my own life and everything was better and cheaper under previous presidents other than the job that I found myself and the marriage that I left lol

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indigoC99@reddit

When will you people realize that *politics*, even identity politics which this is not in this case, *actually* affects people. People are *actively* losing their jobs and livelyhoods via kidnappings or deportations. The people that vote in office are important.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

An oversimplification of the problem.

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zardfizzlebeef@reddit

Explain it to us then oh great financial wizard. What part of the cycle is the tax Americans to death on imports? Just asking since you apparently seem to know something the rest of humanity doesn’t.

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Furrealyo@reddit

This is Reddit; reason and logic have no home here.

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RichGlittering2159@reddit

Someone must say the unpopular things.

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Furrealyo@reddit

The ironic thing is that this video is over eight years old. It all came true. https://youtu.be/3ToEvz-7trY

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Dick_Lazer@reddit

So the left has Rage Against the Machine while the right has shit that sounds like nursery rhymes. I guess that makes sense.

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Furrealyo@reddit

The left dominates all parody except memes. The left cannot meme for some reason.

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hysterical_useless@reddit

I saw some dumbass a few days ago on this sub say something to the effect of, "if Texas is such a bad place to live then why are all of these companies moving here?!" I tried to explain to him that the lack of worker's rights in this state is why and they called me a communist in a DM lol

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

Sounds like a commie thing to say…. Jk. Great for businesses. Not great for employees of bad businesses. I’ve worked for great companies here and absolute dog shit companies here. Sadly a lot of the companies that are moving here are leveraging everything they can to screw workers.

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hysterical_useless@reddit

I've been here since 2009, I've had more bad employers than good. furthermore, even the :good" ones tied to screw over their entire staff and expected us to be grateful for the unwanted screwing

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

That sucks, genuinely sorry to hear it.

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Enough_Equivalent379@reddit

What worker's rights are lacking hete?

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Glydysthang@reddit

There's major tax incentives for coming here. They are even giving credits for making movies here. The workers rights is a small part but hell anyone I've known who does their job well never had a problem.

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Still_Detail_4285@reddit

It’s about tax breaks for the business and lower taxes for employees and overall cost of living. That’s why the metroplex has exploded over the last 40 years. This is nothing new.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

I've read that Frisco and Plano give huge tax breaks for companies to move here. The lack of workers rights is just a cherry on top for corporations.

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liquidnight247@reddit

And incredibly easy to open a business and tax incentives make it appealing

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TheRealFaust@reddit

I am looking to lease about 10,000 sq ft when my lease is up at our current building. Most of my associate lawyers live in either old east dallas or knox/henderson are, some uptown. My support staff live in like frisco, plano, rockwall, Grand Prairie… partners are in plano, murphy, sachse, etc… Downtown is insanely hard to leave after work and would make for a 2 hour commute for support staff, an hour for partners, and like 30-mins to an hour for associates. Most buildings outside downtown factor a number of parking spaces per 1000 sq ft leased, so 10k sq ft get me 20-40 parking spaces rather than having to pay for staff to park. Dallas is a car city, whether I like it or not and so trying to find a workable solution for all, means looking outside downtown

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Jazzlike_Outside_629@reddit

Was hoping this was a comment from the Dallas Wings coach

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notamyokay@reddit

People who continuously comment that others "can't read a post without mentioning Trump" must not have a clear understanding of what this *president* is doing. If any other president would have done the things he is doing--- there would have been outrage. What he is doing will affect all of us for *decades* whether you want to admit it or not. I don't understand how all of the constitutional republicans can stand behind what he is doing. Loyalty to an old reality star vs the good of the country is insane and super disappointing.

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Upbeat-Natural-7120@reddit

What's the context for how this affects where jobs are located within Dallas?

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short-man-no-reach@reddit

What does this have to do with jobs being located outside the city center?

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Matthew6_19-22@reddit

Nothing at all. 😂 it’s my comment they’re talking about. Downvoted for no reason other than Trump bad.

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Enough_Equivalent379@reddit

What specifically is he 'doing' that will affect all of us for decades?

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Kdigglerz@reddit

We closed our office and are full time work at home. I love it.

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i4K1Xi@reddit

Y’all hiring? 😅

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Kellosian@reddit

No one is ever hiring. HR will say they're hiring on LinkedIn, they'll have signs on the door saying they're hiring, they'll aggressively advertise that they're hiring... but will never get back to you about hiring. Or they'll make you do 300 "personality assessment" surveys (HR Astrology) and sit through bogus interviews before telling you to piss off

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BoozieBumpkin@reddit

Finally, someone that understands that they are just building their book of applicants for years out. Who they eeill the disqualify for not being up on the latest requirements for the job.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

What reason do companies have for doing fake postings? If I apply and there isn't a job available, why would they care to contact me in a year? By that point I've moved somewhere else, found another job, or stopped looking.

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BoozieBumpkin@reddit

Building their data base of candidates so they are “ready” when they need to hire. Set through countless posting reviews for positions the company never intended to hire for but kept the postings up while they harvested candidate resumes.

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waffels@reddit

Weird, I’ve never had much of a problem getting interviews or a job through LinkedIn in 2023 and early 2025. No idea what jobs you’re applying for that have personality assessments or anything of that dumb shit.

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BitGladius@reddit

Not OP, my employer is hiring... 50% or more in office in another metro because they never built the Dallas office.

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Senior-Ad547@reddit

Can I Dm for your employer name? Desperately looking for a job rn

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Glydysthang@reddit

Where you from lol. You know how many businesses operate out of DFW? Are you looking for a job just bc it's in the middle of downtown or something that pays good?

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

I want a short commute and because I live in Bishop Arts, I don't want to have to drive to Frisco.

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twewff4ever@reddit

You probably need to be a lot more flexible. Whenever I’ve needed to find another job, I’ve had to be open to some type of commute. I got very lucky when my company closed its Irving office. At the time my company had a downtown office and fully paid for an annual train pass. I had awesome times after work, meeting up with friends at Trinity Hall. It was not a burden to get to Trinity. I miss that place. Anyway, good luck with the job search and hopefully you can be a bit less rigid on location. I’m not sure why you must work downtown, especially since companies have let their downtown offices go.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

> You probably need to be a lot more flexible. Whenever I’ve needed to find another job, I’ve had to be open to some type of commute. The issue is that in other metro areas, 99% of the time, the job will be in the downtown or business area so it's easy to switch employers. Take San Francisco for example. If you find a job there, it will more than likely be in their downtown area. So if you live close to downtown, you know you will have a short commute to work.

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BlankCanvaz@reddit

Look at City Government or County Government.

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VanGoghsEar2025@reddit

The DFW job market has been tight for over a year. Lots of ghosting, ageism, and fake online job listings. It took me 6 months to find a job recently.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

Is there any place in the US with a booming job market right now?

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VanGoghsEar2025@reddit

the same place that has $1.98 gas

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

It’s been that way for a while. Moved back in 23, had previously held a director position in marketing. Looked online for similar roles, saw one company advertising a director position starting at $16 an hour. I could get a job at a gas station that pays more. They’re posting low ball job ads either wanting nobody to apply or hire some idiot who will take the bad pay.

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short-man-no-reach@reddit

Crime and decay

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gazagda@reddit

Downtown? So you like bad air quality, soul crushing traffic and the chance to get your car broken into at night? No thanks!

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Early-Tourist-8840@reddit

People don’t like to go to downtown.

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

I loved living downtown in the 2010’s. Went downtown for a friends birthday last year and I wouldn’t live there now. Parking was way worse, I couldn’t believe how bad the homeless problem has increased, and traffic had somehow gotten way worse.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

But people like to go to Irving? lol

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Early-Tourist-8840@reddit

Yes.

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liquidnight247@reddit

I love going downtown but parking is pricey, cocktails are costly so I might as well stay a little bit up the road and eat just as well with free valet parking

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cramothmasterson@reddit

What kind of job are you looking for?

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

I work in training, so I could work for any company really.

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DesperateAd8982@reddit

Corporate systems training? Learning and development training? Employee onboarding? Any specific area of expertise like insurance, accounting, logistics, etc?

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girafa@reddit

Guard dog training? Masseuse training? AI training models? Astronaut training?

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

I have a guard hamster who is terrible at his job. Let me know if you got a good trainer.

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

I've done anything from customer service training (meeting with leaders and people who work directly with customers) to leadership development, to how to use a new piece of software that the company is onboarding. I've worked at schools, hospitals, banks, and logistics. Learning something new is the easy part. It's being able to speak in front of people and manage a classroom that's the hard part.

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waffels@reddit

“Training” could you be any more vague?

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DesperateAd8982@reddit

Yeah this is important info missing from this post. Also, a lot of places moved their headquarters closer to the suburbs because people are moving further out of the city limits and no one wants to commute into the city.

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WorriedSalamander107@reddit

AI scanning all the resumes- it’s a bold and terrible new world

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Earth2EarthaK@reddit

Oh the irony. I’m looking for a new job to get AWAY from downtown Dallas. I hate it. Constant construction, insane drivers (but that’s DFW in general), and just an overall sense of malaise after 6pm. I WFH for 5 years before getting this job which I like but since most jobs are hybrid now, commuting to downtown is now my personal hell. The blessing is that my office has garage parking so I don’t have to deal with that but I’m actively looking to find something fully remote or at least with a 15-minute commute, not one that ranges from 40 minutes to an hour and a half each way. As a former New Yorker, I naively thought downtown Dallas would be similar to downtown NYC.

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erod100@reddit

Downtown Dallas is primarily just AT&T employees and law firms.

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sinovesting@reddit

Coming from someone that works in downtown Dallas – it's because nobody wants to work (or live) in downtown Dallas. Most of my coworkers don't even live in the city of Dallas. Many companies have relocated to surrounding cities for cheaper leases, more space, and more accessible locations.

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liquidnight247@reddit

When was the last time that the job market was easy in Dallas? I got a job here barely two years ago and it was super easy, but wonder if I just lucked out?

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boldjoy0050@reddit (OP)

Things were hard early pandemic, so 2020. Then by 2021 businesses started reopening and lots of places were hiring. I would apply and get a call for interview within a few weeks. I'd say by 2023, there was a downturn in availability of jobs and by 2024 it was even worse.

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liquidnight247@reddit

Dang

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Immediate_Diamond586@reddit

I’m so glad I’m not alone in this! I honestly have no clue where to look. I don’t get how people are moving to Dallas for a new job offer. Like how?? I’ve lived in Dallas my whole life and can’t seem to find a job.

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cuberandgamer@reddit

Downtown and uptown have more jobs than those places, but like they all have around 100k jobs. We don't have one job center, we have many. Technically, Las Colinas has more jobs than downtown Dallas (though, it's not by much and downtown Dallas is a much smaller area) It sucks but that's how it is

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Still_Detail_4285@reddit

More people work at 121/Preston than downtown Dallas.

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DJTMR@reddit

A lot of those office buildings in las colinas are empty right now.

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azzers214@reddit

It's more that all those buildings are 70's to 2000 builds primarily. That skyline is old and it's a lot cheaper to build greenfield and get the setup you want rather than retrofit. There may be an uptake in downtown but things need to get to the point that supply/demand is so negative in downtown it makes sense to tear down the undesired buildings and build new ones (especially with commercial).

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thehakujin82@reddit

Man I’m having the opposite problem. I’ll be job searching when the new year starts, but in my initial looking all I see are downtown Fort Worth and Dallas jobs, when Frisco/Irving/Plano are more what I’m looking for.

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jarjar995@reddit

What’s your field? That must be relevant to this conversation.

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thehakujin82@reddit

Energy — O&G specifically for now. Probably for near future as well, considering current administration’s vindictiveness towards other options.

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FandomReferenceHere@reddit

Even before the pandemic downtown Dallas was dying. At one point the city was paying some expensive department store to stay there - lord & Taylor maybe - and they still moved out. The city has not invested in its downtown so people don’t live or shop or eat there. Combined with suburban sprawl and a highway culture, businesses haven’t been choosing to office downtown for decades.

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nihouma@reddit

Neiman Marcus, which was ridiculous IMO. I'd rather the city try and convince a grocer to come downtown than try and keep Neiman Marcus here

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cougar618@reddit

T A X E S A X E S Property taxes and cost of land for new development.

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liquidnight247@reddit

The CEOs live in the suburbs :-). Shorter commute for them, they can include free parking for employees, lunch options are cheaper and the real estate anyway.

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J_Dadvin@reddit

What do you mean like most cities? Most downtowns have been devastated.

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Primary_Excuse_7183@reddit

Dallas has a sea of suburbs that would cut a tax break in a heartbeat to land another major employer to move there.

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Kineth@reddit

You're telling me. I live in a suburb that barely has any fucking jobs.

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DJTMR@reddit

Downtown is largely residential unless you're in finance/ accounting.

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Professional_Cat_630@reddit

Try land surveying, they always need help

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indigoC99@reddit

Agreedddd. It was so frustrating looking for jobs but all them were too far away. It even worse in the South of Dallas. I lucked out finding the job I have now (UTSW, the research part). It's still a bit far but it's but located by TRE for an easy transfer. I have no idea what I'm going to do for the next job. In general the job market right now is terrible

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No-Rule-5631@reddit

Looking for a job NATIONWIDE is frustrating- you’re not alone. Once you get a job try maintaining it even if you end up not liking it. Speaking from experience: I did DoorDash/Uber Eats for over a year and found something solid.

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YeaYea_I_Love_Grimby@reddit

What industry are you looking for work in? Commercial banking has kind of ebbed and flowed downtown, most of it seems to be headed to the Frisco Star area. I think Chase is almost completely out and in Plano, we're out of as much space that isn't on a long-term lease and in Frisco, but BOK just opened a new shop in Uptown and I think PlainsCapital did the same thing a few years ago.

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Sorry-Equipment6579@reddit

I would never work in downtown Dallas, it’s a royal pain in the ass to navigate, especially during typical commute hours.

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Double_Ship_8086@reddit

Cost , traffic & probably safety unless I had a ton of money I would not want to live downtown

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j_husk@reddit

Have you walked around downtown? Would you locate your business there? The DFW metroplex isn't evenly spread out around downtown; there are far more people living to the North and West of downtown than South and East. Frisco is a much easier commute for most people than downtown.

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Top_Bus_6246@reddit

Downtown has about as many offices as downtown can possibly have. The size of downtown is limited, the size of a sprawling metroplex is not. Real estate downtown is going to be very expensive for a company and you can only pack so many into downtown. VS in Irving or Frisco or Plano (where the land is cheaper and upper middle class is most likely to live)

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