What game is this | TheaterFire

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zrock44@reddit

How? It's like literally the same game but with more stuff lol

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TMCchristian@reddit

That's the point of the post though. Battlefront 2 '05 was pretty much better in every way, but I always liked the feeling of the '04 original better.

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Fuquin@reddit

I played Battlefront 2 (2005) before Battlefront (2004) and when I tried to play the first one I felt like a huge downgrade.

God, how I enjoyed Battlefront 2

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zrock44@reddit

Yeah I love being able to only roll in set directions, what a good game.

I played through 1 once and will never play it again. Game is clunky as hell

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To each their own, I think the fluidity and handholding of the newer games takes away from the difficulty of the Souls series, which was always the draw for me, so we're clearly just different types of gamers to market to and you're in the group they're moving towards.

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zrock44@reddit

There's difficulty and then there's BS. Having the character respond not as you would expect them to is BS. A game with difficulty that gives you control over what you're doing is actual difficulty.

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whiplashMYQ@reddit

Came looking for this. Ds3 is just better all around but ds1 has some magic in it

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OneEnvironmental9222@reddit

as in dark souls 1 feels better to dark souls 3? Agree

or what do you mean

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JohnBGaming@reddit

Yeah exactly what I mean. Technically DS3 is a better game, but there's no way I'd rather play it

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OneEnvironmental9222@reddit

I genuine cant play DS3 again. I went throught it once and recently after almost a decade tried it and just cant. It feels like a slog.

Meanwhile I finished ds1 propably 10 times by now even with its "awful" secondhalf.

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TheRoyalSniper@reddit

The only thing Dark Souls 1 has on 3 is the layout of the world. 3 feels infinitely better to play though and doesn't have the clunkiness 1 and 2 have

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TheAskald@reddit

DS3 is mostly a straight line, and its identity relies too much on recycling DS1 characters and area instead of being its own thing

For me DS3 and its DLCs have the best music and my favourite bosses (even including Sekiro ER), but it's not hard to see why a lot of people will put DS1 above

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pandainferno94@reddit

God of war >God of war: Ragnorak

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LoquaciousEwok@reddit

I can’t imagine anyone would ever play just one without the other, but I agree that 2 despite being a technical improvement in every way just didn’t feel quite as satisfying to play

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BTechUnited@reddit

The UI and menus are a massive step backwards for some reason, especially noticable on deck.

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StormbreakerProtocol@reddit

Portal

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IILazarusLongII@reddit

I'd say portal 2 is way better than 1.

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WalnutSizeBrain@reddit

Portal 2 is vastly superior to portal. It has better gameplay and, uniquely, can be played without having played the predecessor and still be a 10/10 experience

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tiny360@reddit

Portal is like going off a jump on a motor bike and Portal 2 is like flooring it in a Tesla

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Sage296@reddit

The only context you need for Portal 2 if you never played the first one is that you killed Glados

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WalnutSizeBrain@reddit

Which you find out like 30 min into the game

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DasFreibier@reddit

portal is probably the tightest game ever made

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GLaDOS_Sympathizer@reddit

Agreed

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jprogarn@reddit

For sure. There’s just something that makes the first Portal pretty much perfect.

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johnskiddles@reddit

A 4-6 hour playtime keeps it from being perfect.

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TraumaJeans@reddit

Can't think of anything besides nostalgia

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chris_chan8426@reddit

tried too hard on giving it lore. probably personal take but wheatley was insufferable. puzzles went from being intuitive to being the easter eggy "find x" type (ceiling level and beyond were good tho)

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quadtodfodder@reddit

Well there's that song fucking fantastic song.

" Daisy, give me your answer do. I’m half crazy all for the love of you. It won’t be a stylish marriage, I can’t afford a carriage. But you’ll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two."

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Petes-meats@reddit

the first game very much had a lonely and isolated theme to it, there wasn't anyone else other than this robot talking through the test course

the second game was more cartoony and almost disney-like in its theme

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johnskiddles@reddit

You are just too dumb to appreciate le heckin funny space ball.

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ThirstyOutward@reddit

Portal is just a tech demo, bad take

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WhtRbbt222@reddit

Narbacular Drop was the tech demo for Portal, actually.

https://www.digipen.edu/showcase/student-games/narbacular-drop

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w00ms@reddit

F tier take Portal 2 is vastly superior in every way to Portal 1, the only thing Portal accomplishes better than Portal 2 is feeling more like a horror game than a puzzle game.

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toey_wisarut@reddit

can you elaborate

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Pistolius@reddit

The lemon guy is not funny unless you're a child/American

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TheUnnamedPerson@reddit

lemon guy isn't funny if you are boring or simply lack both joy and whimsy

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eustachian_lube@reddit

Totally agree. Portal is a perfect experience. Innovative, better paced, just the right length. Portal 2 is just a video game. Rehashing ideas, overwritten, less freedom in puzzle design, and different tone.

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dudeduck@reddit

I'd say both are masterpieces, just each in their own way

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ALunacyEruption@reddit

Agree

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MyDogIsDaBest@reddit

People will say Halo, but I'll stand by that Halo 2 was better in every way than Halo 1. Both good, but Halo 2 improved a lot on the OG

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McGuineaRI@reddit

Halo 2 is better than CE and 3. I recently played all of them again and I was shocked at how bad 3 was. I honestly had more fun with 4, ODST, and Reach.

I never even touched 5 and Infinite made me bored by the time I got to the second "boss".

Everything we love about Halo is missing now. No more hard hitting story about us overcoming an overwhelming enemy and a tremendous music score are all gone. 343 actively purged the Bungieness from Halo and it was all for the worse.

Fuck em.

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MyDogIsDaBest@reddit

I won't argue about 2 being great, or with ODST and Reach being great games, but what did you not like about 3?

3's a phenomenal game and I still find the campaign sandbox to be fun to this day. It's possibly the easiest of the Halo games on Legendary, but I still really really like Halo 3.

4's story was still ok, even if the gameplay was a bit of a chore, it's at least better than 5.

343 has a massive hate boner for Bungie and it's really a shame, but I have a suspicion it's because the audience always says that 343's Halos are shit(which is true), while Bungie's were good and they hate that their games are so inferior.

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McGuineaRI@reddit

The story was just a quick smash and grab that didn't have the epic feel of the first and second. It honestly felt like Return of the Jedi to Empire Strikes Back if you need a breadth and feel comparison. You hit a bunch of semi disjointed locations where you're just led by your nose, Cortana is missing mostly and she was a great person for the chief to play off of voice-wise so without her he has nothing to talk about and no one to talk to. Cortana coming up with things and unfolding wider conspiracies and explaining them to the chief (the audience) was a great story telling mechanic. I wish I was closer to when this happened so I could explain myself better but I hope I'm making sense here

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Renegadeknight3@reddit

Reach > 4

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Legoking@reddit

Reach should have been the last Halo game. 4, 5, and infinite have just brought the franchise down.

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Orion7734@reddit

Halo 4 was excellent if you care about the lore beyond what you see in the story of the original trilogy

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Aguacatedeaire__@reddit

Halo 4 lore was beyond retarded and broke the story

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Orion7734@reddit

Everything in Halo 4 was already in the lore prior to 343's ownership of the franchise

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SikeSky@reddit

Only because Frank O’Conner shoved his headcanon into 3 and hijacked the story under 343’s management. His Bungie-Era contributions are the only ones that contradict the rest of the original trilogy.

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I_POO_ON_GOATS@reddit

Not even remotely controversial.

Reach gets a lot of flack for introducing sprint, but it's the last Halo game that actually felt like Halo

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throwaway-anon-1600@reddit

If reach gave the halo franchise a black eye, halo 4 took it out back by the dumpster and shot it in the head.

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mikillatja@reddit

Teach felt so good for no discernable reason.

Played 3 and 1 recently together with reach (did not have 2) and reach felt better. Idk what the consensus is because I never got halo 2

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Kidmaker7@reddit

I would say the image applies to halo 2 vs halo 3 for me.

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Judah_Earl@reddit

Halo 2 nerfed the shotgun.

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johnskiddles@reddit

No bigger nerf than the pistol.

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johnskiddles@reddit

Look, Halo CE had a better single player. You might have a problem with the library level, but it served a purpose. The slog in the middle of halo 2 didn't. Granted I played so much more halo2 because of multi-player.

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BurnerNerd@reddit

Halo got progressively better until it peaked at reach. Nostalgia blinders may convince you 2 was better than 3 or 3 better than reach, but Halo really was the perfect example of a dev studio full of passionate and talented individuals with a common goal: keep making better games. Bunjoe accomplished that until they sold their soul to live service hell and went down in flames.

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Arete34@reddit

The campaign in halo 2 sucked

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Zpalq@reddit

Wtf?

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EpicRussia@reddit

The ending of Halo 2's campaign was seen as a gigantic let down. "What are you doing on that shop? Sir, finishing this fight" - cut to credits. Players wanted to finish the campaign, not wait years and for a new console.

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GigaPuddi@reddit

I'll never forgive Bungie for claiming it wasn't going to be a cliffhanger.

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Arete34@reddit

Probably a generational thing. I hated playing as the arbiter.

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STFUNeckbeard@reddit

The point is that Halo 2 might be improved in every way, but the first one still is more loved. And I totally agree. I’ve probably played more Halo 2 than Halo 1, but it’s impossible to live up to the experience of playing Halo 1 for the first time.

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BrainyFlames@reddit

at least jackal sniper isn't rocket flood.

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IGargleGarlic@reddit

Jackal snipers on legendary are worse than any other enemy in the series period.

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TWK128@reddit

At least rocket flood doesn't kill you 10 checkpoints in a row because of bad optimization and hitscan.

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maracusdesu@reddit

I recently got the MCC and just got to Halo 2. It’s already ways better than 1

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bendable_girder@reddit

2 > 1 > 3 for me

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TWK128@reddit

Invert that and it's my ranking 3 >1>2

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Earthworm-Kim@reddit

I'll stand by that Halo 2 was better in every way than Halo 1

halo 1 looks way better, imo

sure, 2 has bump maps, but it isn't as visually cohesive compared to 1. it has so many ugly backdrops, messy maps and sharp edges

i think the armor illustrates it well. halo 1/mark v had better design and more interesting and colorful shaders compared to drab greens and bump mapped rubber. less is more

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MyDogIsDaBest@reddit

Ok yeah I could get behind that. I think a lot of the goofiness of Halo 2's visuals is because they were originally planning to have stencil shadows, but they couldn't optimise enough to get stencil shadowing working at a playable framerate.

I think there's a video where some guy showed what the Halo 2 assets look like with stencil shadows and it makes a massive difference

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WalnutSizeBrain@reddit

In terms of plot, reach > 3

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TacticalSpackle@reddit

Dual-wielding, bump-mapped graphics, the writing and story… Halo 2 was such a gnarly upgrade. Too bad the programming and engine is some of the most overboiled spaghetti code it’s still talked about it some 20 years later.

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lysis_@reddit

I think you can argue 3 > 1 but 2 was probably slightly worse. The dual wielding was kind of half baked

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iSWINE@reddit

Which is unfortunately the biggest problem with dual wielding, you either make the weapon shit to balance having 2 of them, or make them so powerful that there's no need to not dual wield

Nowadays people would say " just half the damage when you hold 2 guns and return the value once they're dropped" but things get weird when you mix and match; especially 20 years ago

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istandleet@reddit

You are so fucking wrong. Lockout is the best map ever created in any FPS. Bungie seemed to entirely miss the crouch-jump mechanic when designing the multiplayer experience, so the maps feel more like Super Mario 64 while the later maps (and every halo 3 map) are so fucking /designed/. "Dual wielding is half baked" is the opinion of a child who has only ever played the campaign, and it's bad even then. BXB and BXL (to sticky people) were GOATed mechanics which allowed you to run multiplayer games with zero shots fired.

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DeadlyPear@reddit

the whole game was pretty half-baked, they rushed that shit out lol.

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Str8esr@reddit

Halo 2 story is iconic. Every single line is memorable

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PotentPNut@reddit

Plants vs Zombies

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eamontothat@reddit

The second one just felt….soulless

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Original-Document-82@reddit

I disagree, every fault of pvz2 was a result of some micro transaction implementation or the fact that it's a mobile game not a PC game. The level design, the plants, and the overall style of the game is so full of care from the developers that the game is their baby. At least until after they stopped adding new worlds which I assume is because the entire company got laid off, leading to the game being as shit as it is now. Not a single new world since 2017, probably because whatever they could make would be so devoid of any artistic integrity the game originally had. If you play it in the form of any of the dozens of community mods that have existed since then, you realize the game was just held back by profitability. There's even a PC version of it as a reimaging if it was made for PC instead of mobile

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Maximum_Contest_5985@reddit

I'm gonna be honest, for all of its flaws I still like PvZ 2. Primal plants are my GOAT, and the fact they actually implemented Explode-o-nut from the Wall-nut Bowling minigame is amazing.

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Original-Document-82@reddit

primal potato mine is sin to game design though, it shouldn't have ever been made in the form that it exists, blatantly power creeped and overpowered unit.

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Maximum_Contest_5985@reddit

I agree that its stats are way too busted, it should take longer to arm rather than shorter. That being said, however, on paper I really like the concept.

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Kpt_Kipper@reddit

Is the reimagining on PC link me brother. I’m going craaaaaaZy

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Original-Document-82@reddit

https://pvzge.com/en/

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johnskiddles@reddit

Almost as if the developer got bought by EA.

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NevGuy@reddit

Completely disagree, it has an absolute ton of creativity and soul put into it. It just got dumped down by EA practices.

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Trivet1989@reddit

Wasn't the second one already an EA mobile release with heavy monetisation?

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Charlie1234500@reddit

DMC 2

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ProbablyAutomated@reddit

DoS2 > BG3

Might be a bit of an unfair comparison considering it's not technically a sequel and it has a completely different RPG system at its heart.

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mayo_ham_bread@reddit

Half life 2

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TheBullGat0r@reddit

hard disagree as someone who's played through hl1 twice there are so many incredibly dated elements that take away a lot for me (excessive platforming, underdeveloped xen, etc). HL2 holds up 21 years later in basically every way to me

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TraumaJeans@reddit

If you consider Black Mesa to be the 1 remaster, it's not as obvious

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TheBullGat0r@reddit

oh Black Mesa is positively fantastic and definitely surpasses any other half life property imo. HL 1s story is the cleanest of the series and having it remastered is basically the perfect game

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GrungeLord@reddit

I dunno, I played them both for the first time last year (Black Mesa, then HL2), having never touched a HL game, and I definitely preferred the sequel. I wasn't expecting it to hold up as well as it did, but it really blew me away. I get why it's such a lawded game.

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ProbablyAutomated@reddit

Yeah, Black Mesa is perhaps the prettiest-looking game ever to be powered by Source1, but thanks to its 15 years or so of community development, it's also quite a bit longer than HL1, which can be both good and bad. Sequences that didn't overstay their welcome in HL definitely do in BM.

Nowhere near as bad as the in-development Blue Shift remake, though. For reference, the original Blue Shift was one of three Gearbox-developed expansion packs for HL1 and by far the shortest, you could finish Barney's Black Mesa adventure in three hours or so. The remake, developed as a mod for Black Mesa, goes on forever, and the final act isn't even released yet.

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

Waow you played it twice... lmao

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MemeEditsReturns@reddit

Ikr

I've played HL1 at least 50 times start to finish over the years, and that's a very conservative estimate.

I've played HL2 and its episodes start to finish maybe twice.

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Thezza-D@reddit

Yeah, sorry, you're just wrong. HL2 is a masterpiece and broke so much ground for game physics and puzzle/environment level design. It is STILL an amazing game to play. HL1 feels dated and clunky in comparison. It also looks like shit compared to 2.

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ACriticalGeek@reddit

Did you not read the premise of this post?

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Thezza-D@reddit

I did. I disagree completely with the above commenter's suggestion.

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mayo_ham_bread@reddit

I don't think you're sorry at all

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johnskiddles@reddit

Only if you really like horizontal elevators.

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genericaddress@reddit

It was more fun to fight the HECU Marines than the Combine Overwatch soldiers. And I miss the Assassins, Houndeyes, and Bullsquids. I also loved weapons like the Gluon Gun, Tau Cannon, and even the Hivehand. HL1 was also the first game I played where friendly NPCs would react and fight back if I harmed them, which blew my mind at the time and I appreciated that freedom.

But HL2 improved so much, so I see them as equals. Depending on my mood, prefer one sometimes and other times prefer the other.

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Tasky_420_69@reddit

Yeah, HL2 is worse than HL1.

Ignore these annoying little fanboys.

HL2 is a glorified tech demo that lacks the punch, pacing, and plethora of gameplay that HL1 had going for it.

The voice acting is annoying. The level design is irritating. The Gravity Gun is a crutch. The bosses are lame AF. The cutscenes are just downright bad.

HL2 is a step down from HL1, despite having a lot of improvements to the graphical fidelity and physics simulation.

It's not like HL2 is such a bad game by itself. It's just such a boring sequel to HL1.

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MemeEditsReturns@reddit

This guy gets it.

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thefierybreeze@reddit

HL1 is soul, HL2 feels like a demo reel

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the_stormapproaching@reddit

Half-Life 1 is better than Half-Life 2 and I will die on this hill (I played both in the last few years, no nostalgia bias)

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NegevMaster@reddit

Idk if I'd say HL1 is as a whole better than HL1, but there's definitely more memorable parts in HL1. (Blast Pit & Residue Processing are still my favorite levels in both games).

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rycerzDog@reddit

I stand with you. Half-life 2 is boring and at times feels like a tech demo of the source engine. Half-life 1 had more weapons, a better "story", better enemy variety and just a better atmosphere in general.

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WidowmakerFeet@reddit

all sequels are inherently soulless

the first game was an original idea

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thiccer_wickerbeast@reddit

Titanfall 2. I preferred the load out flexibility of the first game over the set load out of the titans of the second. Also didn't care for the specialists or whatever it was where a certain perk is tied to a specific character.

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steven00123@reddit

OG was peak online fps, those shit ass outlines were such a fuckhead decision in 2

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Weisssnix@reddit

God I had to scroll long to find this. Titanfall 2 the GOAT

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Playcat_Walker@reddit

Quake. q2 is the best, but not like original game

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Abbobl@reddit

Halo

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PYSHINATOR@reddit

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 when compared to Shadow of Chornobyl and Call of Pripyat. SoC and CoP are definitely of their era, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 is absolutely gorgeous with an enormous map and beautiful gunplay, but it doesn't have the same feeling of the other 2. We don't talk about Clear Sky.

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sad_historian@reddit

Doom 2016 > Doom Eternal

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carrot-parent@reddit

2016 was ass. Tried for years to get into it and actively avoided Eternal cuz I thought it’d be the same. Came to find out Eternal was a masterpiece, and 2016 really just sucked.

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Snoo_46397@reddit

Pple wanting 2016 2.0 can easily just play Eternal on easy difficulty to be allowed to just mindlessly use SSG without any repercussions

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proterraria@reddit

I am sorry but you are wrong king

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Ap0logize@reddit

Nah man he right. I went through 2016 on one weekend, is was a hell of a ride, insane fun. I struggle with playing more than one mission per day in eternal, the last days I couldn't even do that, think I'm going to drop it altogether. It just worse, but can't exactly pinpoint why

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TraumaJeans@reddit

It's a different game. Different vibe. It's as if the game doesn't know what it wants to be.

prince of persia style acrobatics
being forced to use specific weapons against specific enemies

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Krunkbuster@reddit

If you turn the difficulty down you don’t have to switch your weapons as much. It’s a hard game.

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Snoo_46397@reddit

being forced to use specific weapons against specific enemies

Only 2 enemies in the entire roster and they are in the DLC

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slayerx1779@reddit

My main beef with 2016 was the complexity creep: I like Doom when it's just you, a handful of guns, a pile of ammo, all against different combinations of enemies and room layouts to reward different strategies and weapon use.

It felt like Eternal took the added complexity that I wasn't a fan of, but tolerated, multiplied it, and made it way more important to the game's balancing.

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gyropyro32@reddit

Prince of persia style acrobatics

being forced to use specific weapons against specific enemies

Nothing wrong with this

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Screlingo@reddit

this.

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theMB2dude@reddit

Exactly how I felt. I played the shit out of 2016, got all single player achievements, then bought eternal on release. Dropped it like 8 missions in, 2016 just had more soul and a cooler story.

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Clen23@reddit

personal opinions tbh, Eternal isn't a direct upgrade from 2016 and took a different direction in several aspects.

For instance I'm a big fan of the hyperactive gameplay, but I like 2016's immersion better, while Eternal made the choice of having lots of non-diegetic elements like those retro-style heals.

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Flashlight_Inspector@reddit

Doom Eternal shot itself in the foot by scaling absolutely everything around the idea of rapidly switching your weapons by making all but two weapons feel like actual dogshit to use. When you fire a gun in 2016 it sounds like you just sawed a burglar in half IRL and fires long enough that you can spray down an entire room. These two things combined makes it feel like you actually just gunned down a room full of demons, which is fucking awesome

When you fire a gun in Eternal it sounds like you just fired an airsoft gun at a pillow and everything has so little ammo that you'll run out of ammo almost as soon as the first bullets reach the enemy. These two things combined makes it feel like you're playing airsoft in an abandoned car wash, which is fucking lame

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proterraria@reddit

Idk actually using all of your wepins instead of just walking around with the super shotgun seems way more fun to me actually disarming the demons with unique interactions feels way better

Idk what you go on about the rip and tear thing its said like twice in the entire game like what

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Flashlight_Inspector@reddit

its said like twice in the entire game

Two times too many, it was fucking embarrassing and felt like I was reading edgy fanfiction.

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proterraria@reddit

????? You are playing a game about a jacked guy that is fighting mechanised demon zombies that is so mad he cant die to the point hell itself is scared of him and him being told rip and tear once is what made you cringe?

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Flashlight_Inspector@reddit

Yeah and that's called show not tell. I don't need the game to tell me exactly what I'm doing in the most self-masturbatory way imaginable. Might as well play a puzzle game that pauses itself halfway through it to tell you how smart and witty you are

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NachoNutritious@reddit

When you fire a gun in 2016 it sounds like you just sawed a burglar in half IRL and fires long enough that you can spray down an entire room.

Combine this with how 2016 was balanced around using glory kills to regen health and the chainsaw to replenish ammo, it all added to the feel that you were never truly down and out no matter how low your health/ammo was and that you'd be rewarded by playing aggressively.

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Ap0logize@reddit

That's one of my points I guess. You are out of ammo all the time, and everything only has one weakness, other weapons feel like nerf guns.

Like, if you said to me while playing 2016 that the cacodemon will get insanely tanky and only really die if you use that nade in mouth move, i would have laughed.

In 2016 using the chainsaw for ammo was a last resort or you used it to skip an extremely annoying enemy. Now you are forced to use it every 30 sec while it constantly reminds you that you dont have enough fuel to slice something thats not cannon fodder

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willis12@reddit

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. And Im not sorry

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proterraria@reddit

I am sorry but you are ugly in the face

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willis12@reddit

I am not sorry but you are braindead

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c0micsansfrancisco@reddit

Nah he's spitting. Eternal is way too goofy, I enjoy the gameplay but 2016 felt better to me. Wish there was a middle term between the two in terms of mobility

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Turbine2k5@reddit

There is. It's OG Doom II.

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SapiS68@reddit

2016 plays like a Doom game, Eternal plays like a puzzle game

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proterraria@reddit

lol

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Real-Terminal@reddit

Nah Eternal was too damn exhausting.

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DeadlyPear@reddit

pov: in the middle of intense combat the game screeches to a halt to explain enemy mechanics you could just work out yourself.

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upnc0m1ng@reddit

It also gives people the wrong impression that there is only a specific way to deal with an enemy when there are actually alternatives that you could only discover after some experimenting.

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PsychologicalSwim892@reddit

Funny you say that. Eternal is pinacle and last one out is such a joke i cannot remember its title.

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galacticdolan@reddit

Exactly what I came to comment. Eternal is good but just doesnt hold my attention lime 2016 does. Eternal feels very exhausting to play

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NachoNutritious@reddit

Give me Doom 2016 over Eternal any day. If I wanted to do complex resource management in order to not die, I would just turn off the game and go cook dinner.

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walshk8@reddit

Can I steal this from you? I’ve never had my feelings on this so perfectly summarized

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StarvingCommunists@reddit

These are my people

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vietnam_soldier_69@reddit

I find it the otherway around but thats probably because eternal is just more mechanical and 2016 makes me fall asleep

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Stillborne330@reddit

doom 64 > the rest

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Exurota@reddit

The shield guys that just ignore the BFG are completely anti fun and the soundtrack was weak as hell because of what they did to Mick

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MrkMtr@reddit

In terms of aesthetics and story, definitely

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wolphak@reddit

Hang on, I'll get everyone fighting. Darkages>2016>eternal.

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klimych@reddit

2016 beats Eternal in everything but gameplay and maybe location diversity. But by God, Eternal gameplay is so fire I'm willing to overlook everything else

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

i mean in doom games isnt the gameplay like 95% of it

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Ryvs@reddit

I loved both, but eternal has a better flow, it really puts the spree in killing

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spartan195@reddit

Absolutely right, Eternal was technically better, but far away from what a gem 2016 art style and design was.

And of course there’ll be braindead people who their first doom was eternal saying you are wrong lmao

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upnc0m1ng@reddit

As much as the game satisfies my craving for an intense game, Doom Eternal feels unpolished.

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AvatarCabbageGuy@reddit

I liked the increased mechanical complexity of eternal but the charm of just running around with an ssg in 2016 is unbeatable

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SecretWasianMan@reddit

I love textured loading in late with dumb challenges and redundant weapons

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weightcarried@reddit

Metal Gear Solid 2

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Aughab999@reddit

Space Marine for me.

Dont get me wrong, i really liked SM2 and it was more epic in some places (especially the bossfights) but overall it felt less engaging than SM1 when it came out. Especially when it comes to the chaos. I love Thousand Sons but they are ass in 2.

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bumpercars12@reddit

MGS2

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IggyNub@reddit

I agree, but Arsenal Gear was such a great endgame compared to no 1 imo.

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snowysora@reddit

Fucking this

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adamwhoopass@reddit

Total bait doing the sick cargo boat mission as snake then going to the big ass oil rig for the rest of the game

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JeffyGoldblumsPen_15@reddit

Mgs1 is still my favorite.

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MisterChancellor@reddit

Gothic, The second one is clearly much bigger and better, but never really catches the vibes of the first game

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Altruistic_Nose5825@reddit

dishonored 2

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Tom_Browning@reddit

Yeah I’d agree with that. I really enjoyed both games, but despite DH2 seeming to be a direct improvement in pretty much all aspects, DH1 still feels better.

Maybe it’s a nostalgia thing?

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Always_Impressive@reddit

Movement. Dh2 feels heavy and unresponsive somehow, even at high fps. Dh1 is also razor focused game that feels more personal. Dh2 just feels so forced as the story goes.

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faredelisi@reddit

Finally someone other than me says this. Dh2 movement feels like im trying to move a robot on low battery and Dh1 movement was sliding a hot knife through butter. Only reason I couldn’t replay dh2 like dh1

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Weepinbellend01@reddit

I wouldn’t even say dishonored 2 felt BAD. Dishonored 1 felt SO slick though. One of the most smooth feeling games I’ve ever played.

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GardenerSpyTailorAss@reddit

I loved the first one and ya, it was great for how fluid the movement was. Some of the yt clips I've seen of ppl doing it better than I ever could (did they use a TAS assist?) was amazing.

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LetComprehensive4600@reddit

No dark atmosphere - no rats (wasps are just triggering and annoying), no filth, no melancholic sightseeings, The Outsider with a femboy voice of a popular actor because of devs greed for hype - thus no charisma, no immersion - main character won't shut up and speaks out loud everything to lead casuals hand like in any shitty AAA game, weak pulled out of the ass plot with no actual explanation, long awaited ability to skip boat intros only to make unstoppable long dream sequences of lore where you can't even afk and have to walk forward in EVERY walkthrough which is idiotic considering the game is built for replayability, no feeling of being lost in a cruel world - you almost immediately get your OP powers back, no feeling of threat and go on a bored rampage because there's no plague and high chaos doesn't affect shit other than bohoo in the end MC is shown as more strict towards criminals (lol), main enemy can kill MC's relative we go the whole game to save to at any moment but decides not to without any motivation, not even plot armor. That's just a few reasons off the top of my head.

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Real-Terminal@reddit

The Outsider with a femboy voice of a popular actor

Literally never noticed one bit of this.

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Robrogineer@reddit

How? The voice is completely different.

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Real-Terminal@reddit

Probably because I've never played the games back to back.

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casino_r0yale@reddit

Clockwork Mansion wipes the floor with anything in 1

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CeliacPhiliac@reddit

If shadow kill in DS1 worked it would be a 10/10 game

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Real-Terminal@reddit

The game runs worse and feels worse because of it.

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msp26@reddit

pacing

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mr_former@reddit

Not nostalgia, but novelty. With Dishonored 2, even though it was better, you knew roughly what to expect from having played the first one

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hobbinater2@reddit

On a mechanical end, Emily’s traversal power is less smooth than blink and corvos blink is nerfed by them removing the half second time dilation after a teleport.

Also the art style changed a great deal and the world has less atmosphere and things to discover.

To its credit, dishonored 2 has two of the most interesting levels I’ve ever played, the clockwork mansion and the timeline shift.

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RandomCleverName@reddit

It's crazy, but I think those 2 levels were so good that it makes the other amazing levels of the game look worse by comparison.

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El-Jalapeno@reddit

DH2 just has a mid story. Thats really it. Its a technically superior game but falls short on pulling the player deeper into the story.

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Maxik22@reddit

I rolled my eyes getting into D2 after playing through D1's DLCs when I saw we were getting Delilah as a vilain AGAIN

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throwaway_random0@reddit

Perfect example, i never understood why it's liked less than the original, i feel like it's just a straight up improvement in every single way. Though admittedly the story makes more sense if you play as emily instead of corvo

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maracusdesu@reddit

I have only finished it once but I have like 4 saves because I wanna do a good/bad run with both characters and do everything perfectly. It’s a great game.

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Asmodeane@reddit

Viktor Antonov wasn't the visual designer anymore, a lot of the magic came from him

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DisastrousAd6833@reddit

Red Dead Redemption

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UnkleBott@reddit

TLOU 2

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

its not even better in every way with the plot and writing and characters being almost universally agreed as worse then the first game. and that stuff is like half the game experience

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BenSenior@reddit

That's literally false, you'd only think that if you read YouTube comments and the Reddit sub that's dedicated to hating the game.

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Comradechudder31@reddit

GTA 4 to 5

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RAWBARATE@reddit

Danganronpa 2

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19Alexastias@reddit

I feel like people think this about whatever Civ game is the first one they played. I still like 4 best even though five and six are both probably better games.

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Seananagans@reddit

Baldurs gate 2 > Baldurs gate 1

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SpeechStraight60@reddit

Doom eternal

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GaylordYeetster@reddit

Terms of fun

Far Cry 5 > everything else solely to the fact that I haven't tried 6 yet and 5 is the only one that allows multi-player mid story

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BatDanTheMan@reddit

Arkham City > Arkham Knight

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FrancisGalloway@reddit

KOTOR 2. Mechanically superior, story has more depth, better writing, more interesting quests, but... the magic of KOTOR I wasn't quite there. It was grim and bleak.

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Jack-of-Hearts-7@reddit

Better writing is stretching it.

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Merciudel@reddit

I wouldn't say this really meets the OP criteria. KotOR 1 was an experiment and didn't take itself seriously, which lent itself to a more upbeat classic Star Wars feel and characters like HK47 and Jolee Bindo. It was more polished and complete because it wasn't a rushed sequel to a success. KotOR 2 offered a more complex and morally gray narrative, generally more compelling characters, but also significant development issues because they rushed it out. I think both have clearcut advantages over the other.

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Chadzuma@reddit

Yeah in fact it's almost precisely the opposite. Kotor 2 has less polish but dramatically more substance.

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FrancisGalloway@reddit

Reasonable, KOTOR 2 was indeed rushed. But even the completed portions felt hollow compared to 1. The galaxy felt emptier and darker.

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the_stormapproaching@reddit

KOTOR 2 is brilliant and what makes the KOTOR era and characters the most interesting in Star Wars to this day, but KOTOR 1's atmosphere is definitely far more Star Wars (it also has Bastila Shan, whom is a baddie)

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Affectionate_Fan3017@reddit

Bastila Shan x Glup Shitto sex scene was ahead of its time

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Meat_Goliath@reddit

You get to be a Jedi! You get to be a Jedi! Everyone gets to be a Jedi!!!

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Real-Terminal@reddit

KOTOR 1 is classic Star Wars.

KOTOR 2 is a deconstruction of classic Star Wars.

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nothing_in_my_mind@reddit

I liked KOTOR 2 better, but also I played it first. I assume that affects your judgement a lot.

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axelkoffel@reddit

KOTOR 1 is great, if you want your typical hero's journey Star Wars adventure.
KOTOR 2 if you're tired of typical Star Wars concept and want to see a completely different take on the concept of the Force and other SW stuff.

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Unknown_User_66@reddit

Angry Birds!!!! I bet people don't even know there was an Angry Birds 2!!! 🤣

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SauceGod13@reddit

Destiny 1

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Xenotheosis@reddit

Bioshock 2

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Kobebola@reddit

Everyone says 3 > 2 > 1

As a gameplay maximalist, lore averagealist, I thought each one was better than the prior

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flyinchipmunk5@reddit

Bro no way does 3 have better lore than 1 you are off your rocker

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Gamestoreguy@reddit

I’ve only played one but the first game always has lore advantage as it establishes setting.

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flyinchipmunk5@reddit

3 is completely separate really. The only lore it shares with bioshock 1 and 2 is that rapture is in the same universe.

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KurtisLloyd@reddit

I will say that the Burial At Sea DLC ties them all together fairly well. >!Songbird being a prototype big daddy was a fascinating story to explore regarding tears and the communications between Columbia and Rapture.!< >!I also really liked Elizabeth’s conclusion at the end, giving the Ace in the hole to Atlas and basically kicking off the events of the first game!<

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dalatinknight@reddit

I think he's saying he weighs more mediumly, not heavily, in his game comparisons.

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uncreativename0587@reddit

I honestly disliked 2s combat bc of how slow you are

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GrungeLord@reddit

This is probably my hottest gaming take, but I agree with you. I really love Infinite for the gameplay, the aesthetic, and even its somewhat tenuous story. Bioshock 1 has a better narrative and an amazing setting, but the gameplay elements just let it down so much for me. The second game sits somewhere in between on both metrics.

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TWK128@reddit

FR. 1 was the most complete game in the series.

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adamsworstnightmare@reddit

Just like the tears of the kingdom comment above, the magic just wasn't there. We already knew rapture. Moving to a new setting was a good move for infinite.

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Regular_Ship2073@reddit

It’s not “technically better in every way” tho

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Quatro87@reddit

Totally agree. I couldn't step away from Bioshock 1. I didn't go back to Bioshock 2.

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antmath@reddit

Death Stranding

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kermustaja@reddit

ratched n clank

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yodasonics@reddit

Mario superstar baseball

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Meat_Goliath@reddit

Tears of the Kingdom

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ZincHead@reddit

The magic was just gone a little bit since they were pretty similar. BoTW was just so mindblowing when you first play it, such a departure from all other LoZ games, but then ToTK is basically the same but with more stuff to do.

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McAkkeezz@reddit

Exploring the world in BotW was amazing. You see something funny in the horizon and then go there. Imho there was too much fast travel but wahtever.

TotK is ok, it is kinda exciting to see how the world has changed since botw but its just not the same

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JWBails@reddit

too much fast travel

I never understand this take. Just...don't fast travel?

Movement in the first Spider-Man was so fun that I only used fast travel enough times to get the achievement for it.

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WheresTotoro@reddit

If the game is built around using fast travel, then the developers might not design regular movement to be engaging for travelling long distances. So it feels boring and stale.

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McAkkeezz@reddit

The movement in BoTW and ToTK is not as stimulating as spiderman. As there are 135 fast travel locations in the game, most will just fast travel to the closest one. There is definietly a balance there somewhere, but given the opportunity people will optimice the fun out of the game

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richtofin819@reddit

I like to say that while the building system is impressive as hell it doesn't add to the botw style gameplay it is separate from it. It's like 2 separate games in 1 package.

Where botw makes you look at the environment and strategize how to overcome it. Totk just says "I'll go underneath it" or "I'll just use another rocket glider and be up there in a second"

It's an example of too much. Like how in dying light 2 you don't just get a glider you get one you can basically fly with almost indefinitely. And despite how on paper it seems like an improvement it pretty much overpowers and invalidated a lot of the parkour that made the game special and such a hit in the first place.

Also they really did not give us many sky islands. I was so excited to explore the sky only to realize that the tutorial area was by far the biggest.

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WheresTotoro@reddit

ToTK was so disappointing because it wasn't just "Same engine but new game" like MM was to OoT. It just felt like the SAME game. The plot is a rehash, you gotta go rescue the sages (again), you gotta collect korok seeds (again), you gotta do shrines (again), nobody acknowledges that you literally saved the entire world just a couple of years ago. It's like they weren't satisfied with BotW and wanted a do-over, but all it feels like is a rehash of the same ideas.

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_Markram@reddit

Not only that, but in some aspects it stepped further from what BoTW established, the narrative design is just a mess.

And personally, even if I believe the whole building system was awe inspiring, it felt that detracted from the whole experience of exploring Hyrule. Made it less Immersive and reminded me constantly that I was playing a game.

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richtofin819@reddit

I think reusing the map in particular was a mistake part of the appeal was learning to overcome the map and its challenges in botw but the other important part of the game was the sense of discovery and exploration that was unmatched.

The depths were cool until you realize that they are an inversed overworld. And the sky islands were just disappointing overall mostly considering of the tutorial island and a couple shrine locations. They really cheaped out on the sky islands.

I also admit the building is cool but it removes a lot of the challenge and sense of exploration when you can just fly everywhere or zoom over it on a massive vehicle.

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Skrivz@reddit

Even DURING botw the magic was gone. And TOTK I only made it like 2 hours in

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Funk-Buster@reddit

Yeah it was a trend chasing OPEN WORLD SURVIVAL CRAFT game. Link to the past has way better puzzles and gadgets than either, and it came out 30 years ago

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The_Strom784@reddit

I had just finished RDR2 at the time and it just didn't click the same as BOTW. I feel like I've outgrown gaming since. I still beat ToTK but it just wasn't enough to keep me playing for over a year like BOTW.

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Flywolfpack@reddit

Fr not many games let you stare at twink ass for so long

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DarkScorpion48@reddit

ToTK is mega grindy and the whole Building aspect was clunky as hell. I stopped playing halfway

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Isneezepepsi@reddit

I can’t finish TOTK even though it has so many cool ideas. I tried again recently and then I got to the pyramid puzzle stuff and i dropped it again. I never did that with BOTW

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johnnybullish@reddit

I've also been unable to finish it

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Traffalgar@reddit

Yeah same I barely touched it, it was beautiful with nice mechanics but it was just too much effort at that time.

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quasarfern@reddit

I enjoyed it at first. When I decided to light up the underground root things it became work. After a while I just rushed to beat it and haven’t touched it. I played it late and it was a few years after playing botw on the wiiu so the gameplay felt fresh. It does make me appreciate the classic zelda style more.

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Cereal_Bandit@reddit

First thing that came to my head. BotW felt too empty and didn't reward exploring. TotK was perfect but I was still burnt out when it launched.

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The_Nasty_Downvoter@reddit

This! So much this!!

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hellschatt@reddit

Yeah, it felt less magical but I still enjoyed totk more, if that makes sense.

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rodinj@reddit

I never beat the first guardian (?) in it because it just didn't click for me. May give it a shot again though

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maracusdesu@reddit

People were burnt out on the first one

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Icanfallupstairs@reddit

Agreed. Fixed a lot of the issues I had with Botw, carried over a lot of issues, but the magic simply wasn't there

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GrungeLord@reddit

I think TotK suffers from subtraction by addition. The magic of BotW to me was very much rooted in its simplicity. The weird out of place building mechanics and strange world layout meant the game didn't retain that satisfying tranquil vibe that the first game had in abundance.

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iLoveFortnite11@reddit

Honestly Nintendo can make great games with a few small flaws that make them literally unplayable for me. The fights aren’t challenging when you can just pause and eat food whenever you need it. It’s so small but completely ruins the combat experience for me, and combat is half the fun.

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BionisGuy@reddit

It's so weird since I did finish BOTW like 3 times give or take. I did 100% it my last playthrough and I did have a blast with it, everything was just so new and fresh with it.

TOTK fixed a lot of the issues I had with BOTW, played through TOTK once and never looked back, the magic was just gone as everyone else have said.

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whynotethan@reddit

My main problem with tears of the kingdom is the story. I understand the appeal of a truly open world game, and being able to do whatever you want before beating the final boss, or simply fighting the final boss off rip. However I feel like the memory cutscenes were a lazy solution to building a in such a circumstance. I feel like it needed.. just more. It wasn't enough. More lore, more story beats, and in a more linear fashion. Like if you complete a main quest, you unlock a new memory, complete a quest pertaining to the memory, maybe get an artifact or accessory, rinse and repeat.

Also a gripe I have with open world games is, when you beat the boss, nothing in the world changes. I feel like you need a post game world, not a new game plus, but like "here's how the world turned out, now revisit characters, get a few new quests and other things to do post game like post game only achievements and content.

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wirelessfingers@reddit

Not better in every way. Sky islands and depths are either lazy (see: the depths) or empty/repetitive (see: sky islands/most of the side content). The depths especially is such a fucking slog.

And the way the story is told through the dragon tears is like the single worst way to do it. You could accidentally get one of the final scenes early on and spoil the whole narrative for yourself. Said narrative is also much more entertaining and interesting than almost any of the stories told in the rest of the game.

Building is also clunky/annoying/allows you to beat most shrines using recall. I definitely don't think TOTK is better than BOTW.

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gopher1409@reddit

My only complaint about BOTW is that it has some really clunky inventory menus and cooking is fucking tedious.

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aghastamok@reddit

> cooking is fucking tedious

Eventually I would just fast travel to the volcano and toss all my ingredients on the ground to cook them. Fuck the cooking bowl animation.

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aghastamok@reddit

> spoil the whole narrative

The first cutscene I saw in that game was the total spoiler one.

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Scared_Potential_805@reddit

Hell no, boring unoriginLlal. Oh look we made a zelda game thats the same as the previous one but in this one you can build. Whaoooo

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GrooseKirby@reddit

By the time TotK came out, Nintendo fans had played more than 1 open world game. Of course mediocrity doesn't feel great to play when you've played better.

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PurplurPuzzlehead111@reddit

I kinda liked it more than BotW although I'd still rank the former higher up

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KoellmanxLantern@reddit

TRUE

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16years2late@reddit

I was contemplating if I should make it obvious it’s a joke if I said Dark Souls 2, but then I couldn’t decide.

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Kaneida@reddit

quake 2

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Specific-Rule3900@reddit

Danganronpa

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Frozen_Watch@reddit

Pokemon. Buts its a little more like your first pokemon game is always your favorite while everything else is just lesser.

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My_Godamn_Reddit@reddit

gif

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manowires@reddit

Banjo kazooie > banjo tooie

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BlueKittyMix@reddit

Prototype

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Sgt_major_dodgy@reddit

I played the second one first and actually really liked it.

It also made me Alex come across as a cringe angsty loser, like a 15yr old tumblr emo wrote him.

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johnskiddles@reddit

Yeah, there was a comic about Alex Mercer going to France and deciding that he should destroy humanity so he's evil in the sequel.

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throwaway_random0@reddit

I knew this comment would be here all the prototype fans say this and on everyones soul you are all wrong it's really only the story that is dogshit (but admittedly it is a really big pile of dogshit that it's impossible to ignore). Every other aspect of the game is just straight up better in the second game it's one of my favorite games ever actually. I'm 100 percent sure if the story was at least mid the game would be crowned as a classic and maybe we would have more sequels to this day.

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QlippethTheQlopper@reddit

If it wasn't such an obscure and underrated title, it would be the top comment. The second one was such a letdown by comparison. Shit canned the franchise because of it.

The idea of a super hero style game where you're actually the villain is great. Was hopeful for a little bit that Microsoft might revive the game in some way after acquiring activision blizzard but alas.

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nicini@reddit

It took so long to find this comment but it was what I thought of the instant I saw the post. I played two first for god knows what reason and the one a few years later and it just feels like so much more love went into the first game

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Bakisyeetaddiction@reddit

The Quake games,

I know Quake III was monumental to pvp gaming and I know Quake II is very impressive for the time it was made but they don't hit the same as the first one's mix of gothic horror with grungy 90s military sci-fi.

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Only_Champion_8895@reddit

AC2 > AC Brotherhood

Assassin's creed 2 has more cities to explore and better parkour world, better story.

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reallynunyabusiness@reddit

The last AC game I played was ACIII, they changed the way combat works and I hated having to play as Haytham for hours before I could play as the hero.

I know everyone says Black Flag is great but it felt like the whole modern day story had wrapped up with the events of ACIII anyway. The series peaked with Ezio and I'm OK consodering it done, even if they want to push out another game every few years.

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Sgt_major_dodgy@reddit

I hated the fucking modern day story of Black Flag, like I'm coming home from a boring office job and they take me out of playing as a pirate to play as a office worker.

Like I'm trying to escape reality not stay in it.

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TheBeastlyStud@reddit

Black Flag was great but it didn't seem like an AC game. Sure the modern-day stuff was interesting since you played as some blank slate you could impress upon, but every time I was out of the Animus I wanted to go back in instead of dealing with Abstergo stuff.

Admittingly I never finished it. I got every fort and had all the upgrades and then my save got corrupted somehow and I was sent back days worth of progress to about half of that. Fucking Ubisoft.

It was really fun playing third person Sid Meier's: Pirates though.

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Pepsiguy2@reddit

Black Flag starts a new modern day storyline. It's so silly to me that it's called "IV" when it's more like a soft reboot and begins the Apple of Eden storyline that's continued in Unity and Syndicate, then more in Rogue.

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AboveTheSkyMaster@reddit

I'd even say a dangerous opinion but Ac1>Ac2 in that case. The atmosphere and the original setting, plus the wonderful story and the built in/play in cutscenes sequences have such a perfect charm imo

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NarcolepticSteak@reddit

Hard agree. Especially since it has the IRL assassin order

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Bourgit@reddit

It's certainky unpopular but I hold thé same opinion

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Hatweed@reddit

I probably spent more time in the first Assassin’s Creed waiting to counter a mob of enemies than I did playing the entire rest of the game.

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Skragdush@reddit

Yes but I kinda consider Brotherhood to be a DLC more than a sequel. AC2 > AC 3 to last

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ShivamLH@reddit

Brotherhood didn't even feel like a brand new entry. It felt like an AC 2.5

Although it was immensely fun.

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DeepQueen@reddit

I agree. Although It felt cool to be a "general" by controlling what other assassin's do and doing group attacks but ac2 had more soul

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Flying_Pretzals1@reddit

Dying Light 2

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Pitiful-Ad-5176@reddit

DS1, in a way? DS2 is definitely not glaringly better, but a lot of aspects are much more interesting and new compared to DS1, yet I would still prefer to play DS1. You could also say the same about DS2 to DS3.

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shiftym21@reddit

borderlands

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Piyaniist@reddit

Dying light 2

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Artistic_Musician988@reddit

GW1/GW2

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LSSJPrime@reddit

God of War: Ragnarok

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JunkyDong@reddit

This. Didnt like Kratos and Atreus's dynamic in Ragnarok.

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NormalTypes@reddit

Arkham Asylum & City

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Accomplished_Cake657@reddit

Nah bro city is far better than asylum in every aspect and thats a huge fact.

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NormalTypes@reddit

It doesn’t have the same feel as the original and that’s facts

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Accomplished_Cake657@reddit

That is just you being nostalgic lil bro believe me.

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NormalTypes@reddit

It’s literally the picture regard. City just doesn’t feel as good and never did.

It’s not even nostalgia deciding since Arkham knight is my favorite of them

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JunkyDong@reddit

Arkham Asylum was spooky and being inside all the time added to it. Kind of like Metroid Prime. Also Asylum felt more like The Animated Series. Asylum doesnt contradict the animated series iirc and could have fit. City makes it clear that it's not the same continuity.

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KVMechelen@reddit

Really? City clears

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NormalTypes@reddit

It’s missing the feel of the original, ya know just like the post is about

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KVMechelen@reddit

I guess. Never felt that though, I think it expands on the "stranded in enemy turf hell" atmosphere from Asylum rather well. Maybe the villains are a little too crowded for max catharsis though

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IGargleGarlic@reddit

City is the best of the series. Everything after felt like a rehash.

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JunkyDong@reddit

Mario Galaxy 2

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SiL3NT_SOUL@reddit

Forza Horizon

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Cassius99988@reddit

RDR2

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DeltaChip64@reddit

Portal 2. Without a doubt

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Stillborne330@reddit

gta 5 vs gta 3

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Autumn_Fire@reddit

I'll get shit on for this, but I'm going to go with Dragon Age 2

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PrivateerOpossum@reddit

Far cry 4 & Far Cry 3

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schmitzel88@reddit

I thought FC5 was pretty good too

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therealjohnsmith@reddit

GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas

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sendnudesyo@reddit

far cry 4 is better then far cry 3 and i am tired of people pushing it aside just cos of vaas

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IGargleGarlic@reddit

Far Cry 3 is the last good far cry game. Everything after is repetitive boring slop.

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TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit

You didn't play 5

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maracusdesu@reddit

Insane take

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PrivateerOpossum@reddit

I don't think it's quite that for me. Objectively the game expanded on 3 and added a lot of fun new gameplay mechanics. But I found the golden path to not be as interesting as what Citra and co had going on. I know part of the point is to be disconnected from everything. But the personal stakes of 3 felt higher. I appreciated the tropical atmosphere more than the, mountainous Himalayan vibe. Which is a shame. I think I like the civil war as a concept. but found the characters unengaging and uninteresting. Yogi & Reg were fun. but the mercenaries, pirates, natives pulled it together. Vaas kinda overrated. Idk.

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sendnudesyo@reddit

honestly agree either of the golden path leaders were kinda terrible, vaas stole the show compared to hoyt during act 2 but i feel that pagan is acted better compared to vaas but people just push him aside because he is part of far cry 4

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segundo1998@reddit

Red dead 2

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KVMechelen@reddit

Hard agree. I dont wanna change outfits cause it's breezy outside and clean up realistic horse poop, just let me steal horses and shoot people

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Tentaye@reddit

Have you played RD2?

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yourdiabeticwalrus@reddit

Nah dawg cmon

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segundo1998@reddit

They are both top tier. But i found that the resources used in RDR1 are better placed. I felt RDR 2 was giving to much

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BannedSvenhoek86@reddit

Depends what you want. I honestly prefer the gameplay of RDR1. RDR2 is maybe the most immersive game of all time, but sometimes to it's detriment. It's not a pick up and play for 45 minutes game, everything you do is so god damn slow. Meanwhile RDR1 plays more like a GTA game in the Wild West.

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Cosmonate@reddit

Red dead 1 is the better arcade cowboy game

Red dead 2 is the better cowboy simulator

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zrock44@reddit

Ain't no damn way

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Robocop71@reddit

Red dead 1 far superior in that it has a very cynical, dark humor to it all, you especially see it in the side quests.

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miku_dominos@reddit

Yes!

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Tentaye@reddit

Horizon: Forbidden West. Gorgeous game, very fun, but the story and exploration just didn't hit the same as the first game.

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HungryHippo624@reddit

SWBF2

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zpepsin@reddit

The sims

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901_vols@reddit

Fable

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uncreativename0587@reddit

System shock

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Grongle_Grumpth@reddit

KCD2

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the_marxman@reddit

Killing Floor 2 was my personal version. The first game has so many glaring flaws that the sequel improves upon, but it just didn't feel as good as the first.

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nizzi00@reddit

Red Dead Redemption

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Sker1012@reddit

Mass Effect

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redstar99@reddit

Nah, 1 was clunky but 2 was peak

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Bluelegs@reddit

I hated the narrative of 2. Felt like I was just pissing about doing side quests the whole time. The Collectors storyline seemed really underwritten and had no sense of urgency.

The first game is just about as perfectly paced and structured a story I've seen in an RPG. Felt like I was solving a mystery, and the Sovereign reveal is one of my all time favourite gaming moments.

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hoangsh12@reddit

not to mention the goat suicide mission. imo, it's where you can see the most clearly the accumulating consequences of your prior choices. I replayed ME2 so many times, pulling myself through all of those tidious mining activities and some of those subpar loyalty missions, just to bath myself in the glorious results of the suicide mission.

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BallistiX09@reddit

I’m an idiot and thought that when the game told me I don’t have much time, it was just for the sake of building tension. So I went ahead and cleared up every leftover side mission before suicide mission… Just to find out that they weren’t messing around about that timer 💀

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GenrlEisenhower@reddit

I always make sure Jacob dies, hated him constantly flirting with me when I was in a relationship with Liara. No Jacob, ew.

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periodicchemistrypun@reddit

I hated that bit. Mass effect 2 was more compelling to explore but it’s main story let down with such non impactful ridiculous twists.

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TraumaJeans@reddit

I didn't like what they did with the story and the lore. The whole resurrection thing, departure from the original lore etc

Then they put a nail in the story coffin with 3

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maracusdesu@reddit

But it’s nostalgia. They don’t really hold up as well today, being like 20 years old or something

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DeepQueen@reddit

Me 1 didn't age super well whereas ME2 was badass and the choices felt heavier

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TWK128@reddit

Blows 3 out of the water, too. 3 felt like your choices really didn't matter much at all.

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DeepQueen@reddit

3 was still a really fun game. Not much for choices tho aside from not getting your team killed

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TWK128@reddit

FR. The rare case where the second game in the trilogy is the best

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periodicchemistrypun@reddit

It was so dumbed down.

The rpg mechanics were vestigial, the plot just ridiculous and uneventful while characters turn up to say ‘see you in the next game.

And the visuals. Mass effect 1 bit off only slightly more than it could chew but that ambition was earnestness.

I enjoyed playing 2 and despise it all the same. There was no shock to me that 3 was awful

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Vlad_The_Great_2@reddit

For me the series gets better with each new entry until the final decision in the third game.

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

Bruh mass effect 1 is ass and should be skipped by everyone

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schkmenebene@reddit

After playing all three games I definitely want to revisit the first one more than the other two.

It did have a lot of stuff that sucked, the planet missions and stuff where pretty meh.

But it feels like that game could give me a vastly different experience if I just tried another build, whilst the other two still would've felt the same no matter what build and choices you make.

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periodicchemistrypun@reddit

It’s the only good one.

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Bourgit@reddit

I can understand it though I don't share the opinion

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digital_pocket_watch@reddit

Yo-kai Watch.

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Bluelegs@reddit

Mass Effect, Halo

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Arian51@reddit

Stalker 2 somewhat.

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

Doesn't really fit because stalker 2 is not better in many ways. Even removed the a life system bro

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Arian51@reddit

A life is back

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jacerracer@reddit

Spiderman 2 has soooo much going for it. But the first is just better

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I_POO_ON_GOATS@reddit

Destiny

Star Wars: Battlefront

Roller Coaster Tycoon

Warcraft

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flyinchipmunk5@reddit

Warcraft 3 is so good that warcraft 2 and 1 are unplayable imo

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dentchest@reddit

For nostalgias sake, Warcraft 2 will always be the best for me

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I_POO_ON_GOATS@reddit

are unplayable imo

a very newfag opinion

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BlueHeartBob@reddit

Warcraft 3 is just the superior game.

Not mentioning the influence and AAA games that have came from that games mere existence. Warcraft 3 is one of the best RTSs of all time and the first 2 just don’t hold a candle to it.

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flyinchipmunk5@reddit

? I played warcraft 1 and 2 back when they were released dumbass.

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Real-Terminal@reddit

Destiny

The only thing Destiny 2 is missing is Marty.

His soundtrack made D1 special, and though Salvatori and co have done great (Deep Stone Lullaby fucking hell) Marty always had a unique sound that no one else has managed to live upto.

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El_Androi@reddit

Sorry but that's nostalgia cope for Destiny. Maybe it had better art direction but try to go back and play at 30 fps, with no FOV, need to pass through orbit to do anything, basically no buildcrafting... I love it too but that's delusional.

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reallynunyabusiness@reddit

RC2 is great, it has a lot of little improvements that make it better than the OG, but it looses points by not letting me charge for admission and rides.

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

Thats where openRCT comes in

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reallynunyabusiness@reddit

Hell yeah.

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WWWYZZERDDDD@reddit

RCT2 was essentially an expansion pack of RCT1.

Added bonus was you could put a “do not enter” sign at the exit.

“I’m tired”

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Kireba2@reddit

Star Wars Battlefront has an arcade mode. Battlefront II does not.

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canuck1701@reddit

The real Star Wars Battlefront does not.

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Kireba2@reddit

Ok grandpa

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tanashah@reddit

Horizon zero dawn

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Vlad_The_Great_2@reddit

The horizon zero dawn felt like a fun and exciting new game. Horizon forbidden west felt like it dragged on an extra 10 hours when it didn’t have to. Dialogue made aloy seem like a dick to most of her friends. The wrong felt worse in the second game.

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Tgryphon@reddit

Yes but some of the mechanics definitely and especially the inventory system improvements took ALOT of the grind out of the game where I felt like I could focus more on gameplay and less like I needed a spreadsheet to resource track

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

the weird ending of the 2nd game and how they have treated the franchise since gives me little excitement for the 3rd game

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NoabPK@reddit

The splatoon sequels dont hold up to the og. Yes 2 had octo expansion, and 3 feels mechanically better, but 1 had way more soul and felt more entertaining in moment to moment gameplay.

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WhiteFlash1277@reddit

pokemon colliseum and pokemon xd gale of darkness. XD has more content, a better story, better music, with more Pokemon variety. But theres just something missing from it.

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Maximum_Contest_5985@reddit

The darker atmosphere. XD shows an Orre that's been largely "cleaned up" of criminals, save for Cipher's global division.

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Jurpils@reddit

Sequels can't be better in one thing: introducing you to the new world

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YodasLeftNut@reddit

Hawk 2uh

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AdmiralTassles@reddit

Fallout 2 is better than Fallout 1. It just is. But it doesn't evoke the same feelings of desolation and bleakness.

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johnnybullish@reddit

Shenmue

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EternallyDazed@reddit

Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal

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Smkweedevrydy@reddit

TLOU 2

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DeandreDotDicaprio@reddit

fortnite, but with OG and now

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KrokkSlopp@reddit

Ninja Gaiden (Xbox)

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Exzelidus@reddit

Any simulator

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ZenithSatori@reddit

Shadow Hearts: Covenant builds on the foundations of the first game but is so exponentially better its incredible.

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Puzzleheaded_Put3037@reddit

Super Mario Galaxy 2

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RllyGayPrayingMantis@reddit

nah galaxy 2 is goated af (I played 2 before 1)

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HandyProduceHaver@reddit

Galaxy 1 is way better

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randompoStS67743@reddit

I was looking for this

I like the original’s more stars per galaxy, I don’t really like the green stars in the sequel, and 2 doesn’t really have the same ”alone in space” vibe that 1 does.

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patrickbasedman2@reddit

hotline miami

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TheFlightyZeus19@reddit

Dark Souls?

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TheAnarchist9081@reddit

Watchdogs

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TempleOSEnjoyer@reddit

Shadow of War

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bonearmor@reddit

Mirrors edge

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Aphrel86@reddit

all the sequelgames after hereos of might and magic 3.

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FFTEnjoyer@reddit

Epic Battle Fantasy 3 > Epic Battle Fantasy 4

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eXVale@reddit

Crash bandicoot 1 > crash 2

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FFTEnjoyer@reddit

I was about to post that, never expected someone have the same opinion lol

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Snoo_46397@reddit

SF6 and SFV

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MetacrisisMewAlpha@reddit

Digimon Cyber Sleuth: Hacker's Memory.

It's got better mechanics, more digimon, a fantastic group of characters which you spend more time with/bond with more than those in the first game, a really good story.

And I just prefer the first game despite all of the above.

(don't get me wrtong, I *loved* Hacker's Memory when I played it, so no shade is being thrown at all.)

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TrippyPanda880@reddit

The Division

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sancredo@reddit

Rome Total War.

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Pennonymous_bis@reddit

Starcraft

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Just_Evening@reddit

I like 2 a lot. It didn't have the same cultural impact as 1, for sure, but it's a very enjoyable game, and an incredibly flexible engine to make your own games on.

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Pennonymous_bis@reddit

I've always hated the toyish graphics, halos and glares everywhere; the music isn't as good; the campaign isn't as good; they removed too many units and stuff to my liking and added transformers; ah and as if the fights didn't look cluttered enough they can happen in the shape of big army ball vs big army ball...

I'm sure you're right though. But, yeah... nor for me.

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Just_Evening@reddit

I've always hated the toyish graphics

I get what you mean but I did like that aspect

the music isn't as good

Very true

the campaign isn't as good

Very very true. A lot of bootlickers say the campaign is better in the second one, but no, the first one is up there with some of the best written games out there in my opinion

they removed too many units and stuff to my liking and added transformers

Yeah, it didn't work great in red alert 3 and it didn't work great here either

as if the fights didn't look cluttered enough they can happen in the shape of big army ball vs big army ball

True as well. Honestly, my love for the game probably stems from the fact that I only play custom maps rather than the base game. There's a LOT you can do with the engine, it's amazing. I've seen units from other strategy games pulled into SC2, like the exact same model and animations and sounds and everything, it's wild.

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NightmareMMZero@reddit

Bayonetta.

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devilsrevolver@reddit

Prototype 2.

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Sobol1337@reddit

Patapon?

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aguynamejoe@reddit

Dead Rising 2

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grogbast@reddit

Such a letdown compared to one. I’ve still never finished it.

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Vlad_The_Great_2@reddit

I like borderlands 2 more than borderlands 3. The graphics, gameplay, and weapon variety is better in the third game but the writing is dog shit. When I replay borderlands 2, I always enjoy it.

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Arancium@reddit

Banjo Kazooie

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HotelEchoNovember@reddit

Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction

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CampbellsBeefBroth@reddit

I totally agree, mechanically 2 far outclassed 1, but nothing in 2 was as fun as taking down the Deck of 52. I also liked the faction relation system and some of the other small details like your character’s origin determining if you can understand characters speaking.

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HotelEchoNovember@reddit

The atmosphere was unbeatable. Really felt like a warzone in North Korea, the soundtrack was unforgettable too. Mechanically speaking I prefered paying for vehicles and airstrikes when the moment called for it not buying certain amounts. I would end up "saving" airstrikes for later and even the the oppertunity never came

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Icabod_BongTwist@reddit

Mount and Blade: Warband vs. Mount and Blade: Bannerlord

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Cumsocktornado@reddit

Ninja Gaiden

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NachoNutritious@reddit

Unreal Tournament 2003 was just like this compared to original UT. So pretty, great guns, just felt off in comparison.

They later rebalanced it and added some new game modes and it was such a comprehensive upgrade that instead of releasing it as a software patch they replaced the entire game at retail as Unreal Tournament 2004. They actually gave you a refund via rebate if you had previously bought UT2003. UT2004 was fantastic.

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Apex720@reddit

Red Dead Redemption and Red Dead Redemption 2. I still think the first game is better, even if popular consensus disagrees.

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Shvingy@reddit

XCOM.

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Nemisaro1@reddit

Anyone said mass effect 2 yet?

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JGT40@reddit

Throwing Pikmin in here since it hasn’t been mentioned. I prefer Pikmin 2 to 1 but I’ve read that a lot of people feel different.

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kawklee@reddit

Shadow of Mordor or whatever. Loved first one, second one was stupendous, but also felt like they leaned into the collectathon of it all so much more

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CarlotheNord@reddit

Portal 1 and 2. I love both but 1 stands up so well for what it is.

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Just_Evening@reddit

And Portal 2 wasn't as shockingly new as Portal 1 was. It is just more of the same

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AcrobaticKitten@reddit

Morrowind > Oblivion, Skyrim

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IGargleGarlic@reddit

Morrowind is even better than Oblivion remastered. Its not even close. Oblivion and Skyrim are like Morrowind but dumbed down.

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

small things that are staples today like fast travel not being in it are a pain in the ass. or having real time combat but it still being dice rolls on if you actually hit your target

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Just_Evening@reddit

I didn't even know about fast travel in oblivion until a few dozen hours into it. It was my first TES title, and just running through fields and meadows, collecting flowers and dodging wolves, was such a different experience from anything else I'd done in a game up to that point. It was a huge shift for me.

Then I played Morrowind, and while I loved the story and the world, the gameplay felt really unpolished by comparison, so it was tough to get into it.

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zorbiburst@reddit

MGS2

everything about it is better than the previous one, the plot, the map design, the music, the enemies, it even lends itself more to the overall theme of the franchise better than MGS1

but solid snake >>>> raiden so I'll just go back to Shadow Moses

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CampfireBeast@reddit

2 clears. Still one of the most subversive brilliant video games ever made. It is Kojima’s opus.

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TheCynicalAutist@reddit

Subversive isn't an automatically good trait. Modern media has rotted people's brains.

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CampfireBeast@reddit

That’s why I also said brilliant

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Zealousideal-Text-82@reddit

Jak 2

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TheCynicalAutist@reddit

Debatably Mirror's Edge, because while it plays smoother, it loses a lot of the skill ceiling for a "mass appeal" experience.

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Legends-Cape@reddit

does morrowind > oblivion count?

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SpecialistParticular@reddit

Mortal Kombat 2.

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neecoan@reddit

death stranding

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Limmmao@reddit

Silent Hill

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FatAndDepressive@reddit

Fuck that psychological horror shit and give me the demon cult of 1 and 3

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magnuman307@reddit

In a way, Mass effect. 2 is better in every way but man 1 hits some spooky space notes like no other games do.

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Accomplished_Cake657@reddit

Watch dogs

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Brilliant_Area8175@reddit

Borderlands 2. It’s aged like milk on the sidewalk during a hot summers day. The first one was cringey but nowhere near as bad as bl2

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WorstEpEver@reddit

Last of us 2

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MagicXDash@reddit

Little big planet

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jetstreamer123@reddit

There's something about the handmade aesthetic in the first game that none of the others were able to replicate. It's got the best campaign in the series by far.

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MagicXDash@reddit

Don't forget the S tier soundtrack

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Maximus-CZ@reddit

Almost every one.

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TheThalmorEmbassy@reddit

Every Pokemon game after Emerald

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verwarde_jongere@reddit

Not a sequel but similar enough because same dev, same type of game.

DOS2 > BG3

It had way more soul.

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Scrota1969@reddit

Kingdom Come 2 will never capture the charm Kingdom Come has even if it is a beautiful and well made game

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SteakJesus@reddit

I disagree. I think it builds upon the established charm very well. Introducing sidecharacters that are incredibly charismatic, like i cant tell you how many side characters there are in the first one. Granted its been a while since i played tho.

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I_8_ABrownieOnce@reddit

No church interiors makes it worse. Nothing disappointed me more than getting to Kutna Hora and not a single church was enterable. But of course there was an enterable synagogue because Warhorse got "" funding"".

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Kurt805@reddit

Fucking this! I was also disappointed that we couldn't go into any churches. There's 2 giant cathedrals and I was really excited to go inside but it's just a wall masquerading as a door.

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Scrota1969@reddit

I respect that, KCD definitely has a small cast and some of them are a bit less memorable while KCD2 the devils band all are great

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ciko2283@reddit

Devil's band feels like cringy marvel characters

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Judah_Earl@reddit

Red Dead Redemption 2.

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miku_dominos@reddit

Death Stranding 2

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CaptainPeppers@reddit

Wrong

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TNTspaz@reddit

Like the only one I've seen I vehemently disagree with.

Second game was leaps and bounds better than the first one. First one is like a half realized idea and the second one is them finally executing it in full.

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Turbine2k5@reddit

Also Myst > Riven.

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ChanceComfortable131@reddit

Splatoon 3 after s2

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Turbine2k5@reddit

FO3 > FO:NV

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Shaclo@reddit

Borderlands 2 to Borderlands 3 as the gun play is better but too many guns insta delete enemies and legendries just kind of drop out of fucking everything so you never have those fun parts where your like I don't have any legendries or unique weapons to use so I will grab a gun from a vendor that looks cool and have some fun with that. Also, farming weapons just feels worse as most the time you are farming for anoints and nothing else. The end game dosen't feel as fun as BL2's endgame as you have 2 raids and a raid boss and 1 of said raids is really not fun to play.

At least BL4 looks like its learned its lessons from 3 on those regards and is looking to be a pretty fun game and I really hope it is.

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Germanaboo@reddit

Bioshock 2.

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Limekilnlake@reddit

Doom 2016

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4epleb@reddit

Hitman Blood Money > Hitman 2016

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Gjaster@reddit

For me, it’s Torchlight. The second one is objectively better regarding gameplay and whatnot, but I’ve always preferred the simpler gameplay and story of Torchlight 1. I’d definitely recommend both though, they’re solid ARPGs.

Never played 3, so I don’t have an opinion on it.

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Herr_rudolf@reddit

Age of empires 2 is notoriously better than the first installment

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amnonymous@reddit

The original and ultimate answer is Mario Land and Mario Land 2 on game boy. The original is so short and simple but it just has a certain magic for me.

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DoILookUnsureToYou@reddit

Horizon Forbidden West

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

first game felt like mass effect 1 where you where thrown into this completely unique interesting world with a very engaging plot as you untangle the main mystery of said world and it unfolds to reveal a satisfying conclusion that also sets up the next few games.

forbidden west has a much weaker plot, characters that regress and trod on similar arcs they had in the first game and finally a terrible ending out of left field that is no way has much connection to what the first game was going for. at least at the end of mass effect 2 the reapers where still the main antagonists.

gameplay-wise i liked that the first game let you carry seemingly unlimited supplies so by the end you could spam whatever weapons you wanted

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DoILookUnsureToYou@reddit

Gameplay, polish, and graphics are better on FW than ZD but the hook of ZD’s story was so strong so much so that since we already know what caused Zero Dawn, FA just wasn’t as captivating anymore

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mwmwmwmwmmdw@reddit

i was actually very captivated when they introduced the zeniths. only for them to do almost nothing with them and also kill most of them off for good measure to make sure you wont see them in the 3rd game either

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DoILookUnsureToYou@reddit

I don’t even know what the 3rd game will be like, story-wise

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palavraciu@reddit

Max Payne

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bobbydigital2k@reddit

KOTOR 2

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crawsex@reddit

They hated him for saying it: Death Stranding.

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sega20@reddit

Super Mario Bros > SMB2 > SMB3

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BrutalYoshi@reddit

It's Killing Floor 1 and KF2 for me. The lack of full mod support and monetization of 2 just don't compare to the classic. Plus that nice crispy Unreal Engine 2 that can run on a toaster

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emmzzss@reddit

The Last of Us 2

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Halflifepro483@reddit

Portal and Portal 2. Portal 2 is still an incredible game, but Portal 1 feels more like something that actually takes place in the Half-Life universe.

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AshnakAGQ@reddit

Dragon’s Dogma

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For me, it's Mass Effect The 2nd is a cult classic, and it is a gigantic step forward from the first game in terms of gameplay, presentation, quality of life and so on. But the story of the 1st is still my favourite, the exposition, mystery, and build up to the ending are unmatched, in my opinion

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thEldritchBat@reddit

Insomniac’s Spiderman 2

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perhapsanotherbot@reddit

xcom

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TheMoonandTheThief@reddit

Yer mum

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Twinkerbellatrix@reddit

Arkham City

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IronJackk@reddit

Rome total war

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-Tom-@reddit

Fable

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maracusdesu@reddit

Kingdom hearts 2 is better than KH3

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Blackliquid@reddit

Bioshock

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nevadita@reddit

Destiny 2.

There’s simply no contest. It was better than the first one in many-things but Always felt like it was missing something from the first. And then they just made it worse than the first.

Incredible

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FireWater107@reddit

I don't think this theory has a name, but there's a general agreement:

Movie, game, book, whatever. If a sequel is not absolutely "better than" the original... the original wins. There's no ties. Tie goes to the original.

But honestly that theory is mostly seen in movies. There's plenty of games where a sequel is an improvement on the original. Better technology doesn't make a better story, main factor in a movie. But better technology frequently makes better gameplay, which can overcome other deficits in a game.

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TNTspaz@reddit

Ngl. Books can get weird. Especially when it's a long series. I don't even know how stuff like Wheel of Time managed to survive with how many ups and downs the story went through. A lot of people don't even consider the first book that good

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dazden@reddit

Dark Souls

It transcended a whole genre

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Tommy_____Vercetti@reddit

Gothic

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Ryvs@reddit

Prototype 2

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pizza_not_found@reddit

Can I say Black Ops 3/Infinite Warfare over Advanced Warfare? Not exactly direct sequels but the movement mechanics were “improved” in the later two games in a way that didn’t feel as good as AW to me

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furywolf28@reddit

RDR > RDR2

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jinjo21@reddit

Dark souls.

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blackdiamondbleak@reddit

Max Payne

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TiredButEnthusiastic@reddit

This. I love 3 but it feels like a very different game to the other two.

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PowerAsswash@reddit

3 feels like a noname American action game starring alcoholic McBaldface dad out to save the day between his drinks. Also he gets a hot girl and does acrobatics despite being a land whale. Also he days "fuck yeah" because he's cool or some bullshit, classic gangster worship

Meanwhile Max Payne 1 and 2 tell the tragic story of a police pushed beyond his limits and dealt a shit sandwich by life. Who has to rise to the occasion and battle through the pain while feeling all of it. A tragic antihero pushed to hsi limits, not a fatass day drinking BBQ addict

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blackdiamondbleak@reddit

Yeah atmosphere in the first in unmatched never felt anything quite as eerie and depressing except first 2 bioshocks and fo3

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NamenloserKurfuerst@reddit

Gothic. The secon Game is also a master piece and better then the original in any way. But the Atmosphere Just isnt the Same.

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AmzyYT@reddit

Assassins creed

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KingofTheTorrentine@reddit

Dragon Age

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TWK128@reddit

Halo and TLOU.

For Halo, my cousin and I played it for about a week and then went back to Halo: CE. We'd still play 2 multiplayer sometimes, but usually stuck to 1 for mp and campaign split screen.

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doker0@reddit

Many people will say Fallout (but 2 > 3)

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titan-of-hunger@reddit

Mass Effect.

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pandadorable@reddit

Planet Coaster 2 for surs

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serpentseven@reddit

Darkest dungeon

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TWTROLL@reddit

STALKER

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Dani1o@reddit

Max Payne > Max Payne 2 > Max Payne 3

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Omega_brownie@reddit

Kingdom Hearts 2

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BlazingDemon69420@reddit

Spiderman ps4

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Xartes_@reddit

Nah spiderman 2 was worse, no DLC, pointless missions, killing off most of the villains from the first game etc

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Jimmi11@reddit

That's literally what's he's saying. Look which way the alligators pointing bro.

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TheCourtJester72@reddit

Read the actual text in the imagine. Worms for brains

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LogHalley@reddit

Yeah but it doesn't fit the "sequel is better in every aspect". First game you play as Spider-Man, swing around and use webs. Second game you basically fly and spam skills to win. Peter lost all his gadgets for no reason.

So he's saying that this answer doesn't fit because the second game isn't technically better, and I agree.

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BlazingDemon69420@reddit

Nvm my tiktok ass brain didnt read the whole thing, spiderman ps4 is better storywise and personally the webshooter in the first is better than the second one

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c0micsansfrancisco@reddit

Wouldn't say it was "better in every way" almost everyone I know or see online say the story is much worse than SM1

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GrooseKirby@reddit

The first Spider-Man game doesn't force me to play as a deaf girl spray painting instead of playing as fucking Spider-Man.

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yourdiabeticwalrus@reddit

Lol does that actually happen

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cheezitzonrye@reddit

An optional side mission has you playing as a deaf girl going around spray painting over graffiti, basically acting as a showcase for the DualSense controller's haptics (since there's no sound). It's slow and boring, it feels so out of place that it's almost comical. There's also another comically boring side mission where you help a gay high schooler ask his crush to prom. The missions feel like they're there to check off heartless corporate diversity checkboxes than meaningful representation or interesting mission design.

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LadyKingPerson@reddit

Second one is your typical modern game that leans into politics without an subtlety or critical substance

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MrBroneck@reddit

Shank. Gameplay is much more fluid in the sequel, but i still prefer the first part because of the plot.

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StatsDontLie88@reddit

Kingdom come: deliverance 2

it's more beautiful, has some really good sequence but never reach the level of KCD 1

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Mordiken@reddit

Quake

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LoLManatee@reddit

Sons of the forest

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Thaigar@reddit

LittleBigPlanet 2

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Tessi-R@reddit

Blasphemous

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c0micsansfrancisco@reddit

The change in artstyle was so baffling to me. 1 had waaaaaaaaaay better, grittier cutscenes

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xwedodah_is_wincest@reddit

Crusader Kings 2 & 3

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TrapNT@reddit

God of war 2018 vs ragnarok

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FMC_Speed@reddit

Mass Effect 2

I liked 1 more

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Ok_Tax_6022@reddit

Gothic

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Dark_Pestilence@reddit

I knew some troglodyte would spawn this shit tier opinion.

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Ok_Tax_6022@reddit

Yeah ur here

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axelkoffel@reddit

This is a good example. Gothic 2 has bigger world, more enemies variety, more adventures, character progress, it's more of your typical open world action RPG.
But Gothic 1 has that "something", the atmoshpere and very original setup of a prison mining camp after the criminals took over.

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SHEEEEESH-_-@reddit

Saints row 2. Possibly the best game ever made but far sillier than the first. Then they leaned into the silliness

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Iakhovass@reddit

Total Annihilation.

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saruin@reddit

Risen

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mustachenchilada@reddit

Black Ops

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ShefShreckles@reddit

Half-life

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Captain-Turtle@reddit

Sonic rush adventure

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KVMechelen@reddit

I think it's plain worse than Rush 1

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TrulyGolden@reddit

cod modern warfare 1 > modern warfare 2 > black opps

halo 2 > halo 3

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themadworldtmw@reddit

Overwatch for sure

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AccessTheMainframe@reddit

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

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XISOEY@reddit

Fable 1 and Dungeon Keeper 1. The sequels were technically superior in most ways, but the feel and flow of the Originals were much better.

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MagicalGrocery@reddit

not technically a 1 and 2 but i preferred the re2 remake more than the re4 remake

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SatanVapesOn666W@reddit

Borderlands 2.

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LougerB@reddit

Borderlands 2 > every other borderlands game

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AxtonsTurret@reddit

Borderlands

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Jeffzie@reddit

Borderlands is the easy one for me as well. Loved the original a lot more than anything that came after.

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Ahrunean@reddit

I never played the original, I started with bl2. But bl2 is absolutely the peak game for me thus far in my life. The characters were diverse and funny as fuck. To the point that I can tell they tried to remake the fan favorites, like Tiny Tina, in bl3 with that awful twat of a character. Ava, I think?

The main antagonist is perfection, absolutely insane, very hate-able. The hunters were all great, though I went Axton nearly every time.

Bl3 is so advanced by comparison. Better gunplay, better movement, more interesting areas, unique quests. And it's just not the same.

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Jeffzie@reddit

2 is just very different from 1. In borderlands 1, it's like you're stumbling across a barren wasteland, helping some people out here and there. The story is pretty much just there in the background for you to find, but the core of the game is that you're on a rusty shithole of a planet where the people have gone insane due to the nature of it all.

In 2, the story is much more prevalent and the characters are a lot more fleshed out, but that vibe of exploring a hellhole has completely vanished. Even the stuff the bandits shout at you has gone from "fuck you asshole i'll kill you" to "look how wacky kooky we are lol".

It's just different, and I wish there'd be another game like the first at some point. Won't happen though.

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Ahrunean@reddit

That's a good explanation of the difference. It reminds me of Saints Row, I think the second and third ones. Second was a GTA wannabie, super gritty and dark. Third one is "lol, dildo bat".

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Delek@reddit

Baldur's Gate

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Sonic138@reddit

Bayonetta 2

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MrSkarKasm@reddit

Max payne 2

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CharAznableLoNZ@reddit

Black and White 2. The first game was perfect. The second one was a shitshow but looked much better.

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Flairsurfer@reddit

Tears of the kingdom for sure, but I was so so spoiled with how custom modding could push performance on the emulator for Breath of the wild. It legit feels better than what switch 2 has to offer.

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AOC_Gynecologist@reddit

Deus Ex > all the others, and it's not even close.

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Dolinski_Von_Hoyer@reddit

Mass Effect

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Bunny_Bunder@reddit

The Division > The Division 2

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AOC_Gynecologist@reddit

The first one's map: the new yorkiest of all new york games, every inch is pure 100% new york soul.

Second one: some bland slop, can barely remember anything besides the white house and even that's completely forgettable.

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Yung_Ezio@reddit

Battlefield 4

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Wyverrr@reddit

counter strike

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Cagarer@reddit

Gothic 1 and gothic 2

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Raider2747@reddit

Metroid Prime 2.

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rachierudragos@reddit

Rayman 3 felt worse than Rayman 2

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Basic-Instance-2281@reddit

Postal

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Hunto88@reddit

Grounded

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headedbranch225@reddit

Titanfall, 2.is great, don't get me wrong, but 1 feels so nice

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NegevMaster@reddit

Half Life 2.
HL1 just has something about it in the level design that HL2 doesn't. I go back to play Blast Pit, Residue Processing, and Lambda Core semi-regularly, but I only go back for Highway 17 in HL2.

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Interesting-Solid-7@reddit

Bioshock 2. The gameplay is massively improved, but the story is pretty forgettable.

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OhMeinGoood@reddit

Angry Birds

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Thevoidawaits_u@reddit

bioshock infinite fight me

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nemprime@reddit

Dying light

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swaosneed@reddit

Dead Rising 2 is better in every way to 1, but 1 does something so right idk I prefer it, but 2 is still a great game. Off the Record beats 2 though, mainly cause it's just a DLC area and retold story.

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internetflavorium@reddit

Emancipation proclamation / 14th amendment

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Getsooga@reddit

The Evil Within vs The Evil Within 2

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RedditUserror@reddit

Deltarune

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bbdale@reddit

Battlefield Bad Company one was better then two.

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DrSpacemanSpliff@reddit

Terminator

Alien

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--InZane--@reddit

Titanfall MP > Titanfall 2 MP

Doom > Doom 2

Half Life > Half Life 2

Soldiers of Fortune > Soldiers of Fortune 2

Battlefront (2004) > Battlefront 2 (2005)

Doom 3 > Doom 2016

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Time4College@reddit

Insurgency

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PyroComet@reddit

Borderlands 2

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YaBoyEnder@reddit

Ender Magnolia Bloon In the Mist

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mundus108@reddit

Divinity: Original Sin

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SurturRising666@reddit

Half-Life 2

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zer0guy@reddit

Goldeneye > Perfect Dark

Perfect Dark was made better in every way.

But you still can't take anything away from GoldenEye.

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--InZane--@reddit

Titanfall 2

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Perrostun@reddit

Half life

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SupermarketIll4057@reddit

Evil within 2

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Demian1337@reddit

destiny 2, majoras mask, ninja gaiden 2 (coming from black)

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safefam@reddit

Titanfall 2

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FouIdeas@reddit

Dying light

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hiC_best_drank_ever@reddit

Condition Zero was better than 1.6

Just kidding please don’t delete my account.

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nihongonobenkyou@reddit

All of them, because you're a loser who thinks everything really was better when you were a kid ,despite every generation in history thinking that, including the oldest piece of writing in history being about "kids these days". News flash, every child is playing Fortnite because the alternative is being a massive 🚬🐐 who complains about media on reddit

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10Maplewood13@reddit

Doom

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DecoyOctorok24@reddit

Resident Evil