Yemen: Nearly half the population facing acute food insecurity in some southern areas

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PhoenixKingMalekith@reddit

It s estimated than more than 350 000 people have been killed in this war

Including 85000 children from starvation alone.

And most governments are happy to let it go on cause it allows them so sell weapons or have useful proxies

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What bothers me is that country's news media, be it american or european are very selective in their attention. We read about Gaza every day, about Ukraine every week but about countries like Yemen, Lebanon, Sudan, Rwanda... maybe once a month. And these crisis are as new and bad, mostly even worse.

Do we care about people, or do we care about countries that are exclusive politcal partners, countries that own valuable mineral resources and fossil fuels?

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InCOBETReddit@reddit

because highlighting real genocides would disrupt the media's attempt at calling Gaza a genocide

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JaneDi@reddit

ding ding ding

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ugly_dog_@reddit

you are definitely a real human being

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hannes3120@reddit

"No Jews No News"

That's 100% the reason why news about Gaza is spreading so fast. Everyone denying that Antisemitism isn't playing a role is delusional.

Most people demonstrating pro Gaza aren't, but the amount of media attention it gets clearly has an agenda.

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JaneDi@reddit

a comment of sanity in a sea of delusion.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Gotta make it about Jews.

Let’s ignore that Israel is intentionally blocading and starving children every day and directly kills hundreds of innocent people Almost every day while having them trek across ruins every morning before shelling them.

But noooo we have to play the pity card.

What’s happening in Yemen is awful, and Israel is worse. In a fair and just world both people in these countries would find justice, but we aren’t seeing any justice.

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hannes3120@reddit

I agree that Israel is shitty, but so is what the Saudis are enabling in Yemen but somehow that doesn't make news as much as it's not a Jewish country you can rally against.

Or the Sudanese suffering which is happening because of EU-funded armies (not anymore TBF but still)

It's only getting traction against Israel

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Dying innocents are a problem everywhere, but my personal view is that both Sudan and Yemen are larger countries with civil wars, while Israel is an occupying force propped up by the west, leading to much of the contention for coverage.

A reason why the media coverage from Israel gets more traction these past few years is because videos and photos of dying children are coming out with news reports of people dying every day, while Israel’s allies till recently were silent about it.

Also, The leaders of Sudan’s warring factions, the Houthis or Yemen’s official government aren’t touring the US and Europe to garner support, while using American bombs and planes directly in killing every day.

I do agree that in a fair world all of these wars would be appropriately covered and all actors condemned and brought to justice.

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hannes3120@reddit

Isn't Saudi Arabia supplying (American) weapons for the Yemen war?

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Saudi Arabia is America’s proxy in the Yemen war yes. They don’t want a Shia group backed by Iran with capabilities to block shipping lanes through the Suez canal since that’s where a lot of its exports and imports go through (Jeddah is a bigger port than the Eastern ports)

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

I don’t think you are fully aware but Iran and Saudi Arabia are no longer enemies.

They signed normalization agreements brokered by China. They have exchanges FMs multiple times this year.

Nobody is rallying against Israel because it is a Jewish country. They are rallying against it because it is a genocidal regime that is brutally occupying Palestinians.

In fact, the most antisemitic groups in the West support Israel.

Yet that hasn’t stopped Germany from using its special antisemitism laws to prosecute Jews.

Jews have been prosecuted the most under German antisemitic laws.

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Draghalys@reddit

I'm guessing you are young so you weren't there, but in the height of the Yemeni Civil War Saudi genocide in there was regularly on the news. Same organizations denouncing Israel right now were denouncing Saudi Arabia.

It doesn't help that while two states are about as savage and barbarous, Saudi's were able to show more self-control in PR department while Israelis and Zionists literally can't help but be unhinged psychopaths at every opportunity.

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wewew47@reddit

"No Jews No News"

Yep, that's why noones heard about Russias invasion of Ukraine, because no Jews were involved so the media never ran a single story about it.

Didn't even see any coverage of the US election last year because Jews weren't involved. The media didn't even report on who won. I still don't know.

Utter load of bollocks. If Israel stopped committing endless atrocities then there'd be no need for constant reporting of said atrocities.

Stop excusing war crimes.

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GerryAdamsSon@reddit

That's because Western countries are often directly tied to the war in Ukraine and genocide in Palestine. Either via financial, material or political support. The Western sphere of influence has a lot of sway in those issues. That's all, it's not some nefarious conspiracy

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DonutUpset5717@reddit

The West is directly culpable for what has happened in Yemen. The saudis are backed by the West.

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GerryAdamsSon@reddit

I don't disagree, but Ukraine and Israel are more direct

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

How? As a Canadian we barely sell weapons to Israel and Saudi Arabia makes up over 50% of our weapons sales

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JaneDi@reddit

Because JEWS!! Duh.

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GerryAdamsSon@reddit

You're speaking as an individual and about an individual country. I am speaking more about the West as a whole.

But like I said I don't disagree with you and I'm very vocal about Saudi Arabia too, I find that some Western countries are in bed with such an extremist islamist dictatorship is abhorrent

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

America has sold more weapons to Saudi Arabia than they gave to Israel

But like I said I don't disagree with you and I'm very vocal about Saudi Arabia too, I find that some Western countries are in bed with such an extremist islamist dictatorship is abhorrent

I mean, you say that — but there's 0 mass movements even mentioning them right now. This is why a lot of pro Israel people say there's a double standard, because every stated reason why THIS conflict gets so much attention doesn't hold up to scrutiny

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Brief_Fly6950@reddit

That’s not true. The military aid/sales to Israel are larger.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

It's not, sorry. From 1946 to 2024 the cumulative aid to Israel, both military and economic is about $310 billion

In 2017 alone Saudi Arabia bought $150 billion in weapons going up to $350 billion over 10 years. Plus the $60 billion in aid from 2015 to 2021

And then again in May this year they sold another $142 billion in weapons

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Brief_Fly6950@reddit

These are intended deals, not confirmed military contracts. The confirmed contracts are worth ~$30-40 billions since 2014.

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lricharz@reddit

Not to mention the USA has been a military partner with Saudi Arabia since wwii, while Israel was paying market value in the 50s and didn’t receive military backing/aid till after the six-day war.

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re_carn@reddit

This is why a lot of pro Israel people say there's a double standard

No, “pro-Israel people” say this to divert attention to another topic. Just as they talk about the number of UN resolutions against Israel, without specifying how many of them were blocked by the US.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Yes that's the only reason anyone could possibly think the way they do. You have are the arbiter of truth itself

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re_carn@reddit

Yes, that's right: that's the only reason. Because people cannot be fooled by sophistry—everyone understands perfectly well why such posts constantly appear, why there are always attempts to equate civilians with terrorists, why "pro-Israel people" try to divert attention from the genocide in Palestine by saying, “Well, the genocide there is just as bad.”

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Must be awful living with that level of paranoia

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re_carn@reddit

Spend some time studying the dictionary. Your mention of paranoia makes no sense.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Paranoia is a thought process or instinct characterized by excessive suspicion and mistrust of others, often to the point of irrationality and delusion.

Because people cannot be fooled by sophistry—everyone understands perfectly well why such posts constantly appear, why there are always attempts to equate civilians with terrorists, why "pro-Israel people" try to divert attention from the genocide in Palestine by saying, “Well, the genocide there is just as bad.”

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re_carn@reddit

Paranoia is a thought process or instinct characterized by excessive suspicion and mistrust of others, often to the point of irrationality and delusion.

Just open worldnews to see that there is nothing irrational about my statements.

Because people cannot be fooled by sophistry—everyone understands perfectly well why such posts constantly appear, why there are always attempts to equate civilians with terrorists, why "pro-Israel people" try to divert attention from the genocide in Palestine by saying, “Well, the genocide there is just as bad.”

That's right. Because this isn't the first time posts like this have appeared. And no one is fooled by these crocodile tears.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Case in point

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ArCovino@reddit

No one made the Houthi topple the Saleh government and start a war on their own people. Just because Saudi Arabia chose the internationally recognized government to back doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty of culpability with the Houthi and their Iranian backers.

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redditing_away@reddit

It's a proxy war between the Saudis and Iran. By the same token Russia is directly culpable since they're selling equipment to Iran.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

And that proxy war is fanned by America to pursue divide and conquer policies.

Russia has not been providing equipment to Iran that is then provided to Yemen.

Iran makes its own equipment. They don’t even use Russian stuff that much.

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DonutUpset5717@reddit

They are.

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plastic_fortress@reddit

Yemen has indeed been woefully undercovered by the media and more people should be aware of what has been going on there.

But that doesn't mean we should be talking about Gaza less.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Directly culpable? They are the ones who did it.

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JaneDi@reddit

So are the deaths in Yemen also "genocide" or is that term only reserved for deaths involving Israel?

Was Syria a "genocide"? Because I don't recall all these globalist organizations labeling it as such.

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Asconcii@reddit

That's because Western countries are often directly tied to the war in Ukraine and genocide in Palestine.

Classic line from the anti-Semites.

Either via financial, material or political support

Saudi is one of the biggest players in the Yemen conflict, and the Houthis are direct aggressors against Israel. So that's the two biggest Western allies in the Middle East directly involved.

That's all, it's not some nefarious conspiracy

It's blatant anti-Semitism.

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GerryAdamsSon@reddit

Somehow, some way, a Zionist will find a way to make everything 'antisemitic'

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Asconcii@reddit

Says the Irish person who chose to name himself after a terrorist, bleating out the classic Hamas lines and having no actual rebuttal when questioned on their bullshit except to cry Zionist when you really just mean Jew.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

I think this comment demonstrates how silly and subjective the “terrorist” label is.

Some people think the IRA is terrorist.

Other people, particularly in America, view them as freedom fighters.

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Asconcii@reddit

Some people think the IRA is terrorist.

They planted bombs in city centres to kill civilians.

Other people, particularly in America, view them as freedom fighters.

Also known as morons.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

And why did they plant bombs at all?

Did they wake up one morning and say “gee, I really want to do this stuff just because I’m mean”?

the only idiots are the unionists, who have been sold down the River so many times.

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Asconcii@reddit

The reason doesn't matter. They targeted civilians as a bunch of violent vigilantes.

That's terrorism

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

It does matter. It absolutely matters.

Your government has targeted civilians yet they are not terrorist.

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Asconcii@reddit

Hahahahahahahahaa. Just clearly a troll.

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oasisnotes@reddit

The IRA killed fewer civilians, both in total and as a proportion of their total kill count, than any other faction in the Troubles, including the British Army. If you want to talk about civilian deaths in the Troubles, it really makes little sense to only talk about the IRA when by all metrics they were the most moral of all the forces.

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Asconcii@reddit

all metrics they were the most moral of all the forces.

and there's the yank brigade.

Anyone defending the IRA are disgusting human beings and don't deserve a single iota of thought. Utter scum.

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oasisnotes@reddit

And yet, where's your hatred for the British who killed those very same civilians and ran cover for Unionist groups, who killed more civilians than any other faction? If you actually cared about the lives of the residents of Northern Ireland, it wouldn't make any sense to single out the IRA.

And not that it matters, but I'm from Derry.

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Asconcii@reddit

I'm from Derry

Londonderry

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oasisnotes@reddit

It's amazing how you're unable to form an actual counterargument.

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Asconcii@reddit

The British Armed forces aren't a terrorist organisation, they're the armed forces of our nation

The IRA are.

The fact that you even think there's an argument to be had shows how utterly and totally ignorant you are off the world.

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oasisnotes@reddit

The British Armed forces aren't a terrorist organisation, they're the armed forces of our nation

And yet, they killed more civilians than the IRA, and aided loyalist paramilitaries in killing more civilians.

I don't care what word you choose to use for them - they were less moral than the IRA. Again, you fail to provide an actual counterargument. Try thinking next time - it's fun.

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Asconcii@reddit

they were less moral than the IRA

Again showing how utterly brainwashed the Irish are.

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Amphy64@reddit

That's because Americans aren't affected and don't know what they're talking about, including the damage done to Ireland. Was only 2019 the New IRA shot young journalist Lyra McKee. https://www.ruthdudleyedwards.co.uk/2019/09/my-friend-lyra-mckee-ruth-dudley-edwards-remembers-the-young-journalist-murdered-by-the-new-ira/

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No. We do know about the conflict.

We are literally the ones who provided the bulk of funds for the IRA. And even a lot of weapons.

The IRA’s trademark weapon - the Armalite - is from America, smuggled in by Americans.

Every third white person in America has Irish ancestry.

Do you actually think a country that celebrates beating the British to win freedom is going to oppose a group trying to do the same thing?

I mean the British behaved somewhat decent in Northern Ireland, there would not be any problem there.

Good place to start would be to like, you know, not shoot civilians marching in a parade.

Or like, you know, not discriminating against people.

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iordseyton@reddit

I thought freedom fighter was litteraly just a more PC term for terrorist.

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wewew47@reddit

You're a professional victim. Being against Israels sick crimes isn't anti semitism. You're just fragile

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Asconcii@reddit

You're a professional victim

No, that would be the Palestinians who have turned being the aggressive nation in a conflict, who invaded a foreign country to pillage rape, murder and kidnap into somehow being the victims of a war that they started.

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wewew47@reddit

Pathetic.

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Asconcii@reddit

No. Again that would be the Palestinians crying about a war that they started.

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re_carn@reddit

Keep up the good work—you are definitely changing people's perspectives.

/s

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Newbarbarian13@reddit

Ah yes, because history only started in 2023. Shut the fuck up man, nobody is buying your hasbara bs.

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plastic_fortress@reddit

Person: "Stop deliberately starving and shooting thousands of Palestinian kids."

Normal person who also cares about Yemen: "Yes, that shit should stop because it's obviously morally repugnant. Also here's some other bad shit that I'd like to raise awareness of too, and that also needs to stop, which is happening in Yemen."

Psychopath: "You're complaining about this too much relative to other stuff, because you hate Jews."

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v1zdr1x@reddit

Hasbarah bots at it again unfortunately.

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onuldo@reddit

Aren't Western countries also tied to Saudi-Arabia?

No, I'm not Jewish. I downvoted just for purpose.

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bearkin1@reddit

First off, props for differentiating war and genocide for the two conflicts.

Second, how do you see those insights? That's super useful, and makes it super clear that you're being brigaded by hasbara.

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GerryAdamsSon@reddit

this button on desktop mate, if you ever feel they're active...check.

https://ibb.co/fYF2TwzS

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bearkin1@reddit

Thanks man. I usually use old Reddit which I guess is why I haven't seen it, but I will selectively use new Reddit just to see the insights for specific comments.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

You're getting down voted because Saudi Arabia gets as much material support as Israel, it not more

As a Canadian, all I hear about is our weapons sales to Israel totally $30 million. I've heard nothing about our weapon sales to Saudi Arabia at almost $2 billion

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willsue4food@reddit

Welcome to no jews no news.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Seems like both events are a tragedy and in a fair world both the Palestinians and Yemenis would see some form of justice.

The reason why Gaza is getting more attention it seems is because people are being bombed, shot and starved intentionally there daily while the situation in Yemen is a little different

Multiple compounded crises – such as sustained economic decline, currency depreciation in southern governorates, conflict, and increasingly severe weather – are driving food insecurity in Yemen

While the situation in Gaza is entirely man made. It’s really not that hard to see. It’s kinda hard to ignore daily vidoes and photos of dead babies and starving children 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hope the UN is allowed back into Gaza immediately to distribute aid like before and are able to operate better.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

I'm not aware that the UN has left Gaza. Just recent video footage showed them near aid sites where the IDF was waiting for them to move and pick up the food and supplies. Is there any article or source on when or why they left?

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Nobody but the GHF has been allowed to distribute aid in Gaza.

An article from the bbc from two hours ago: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn437jjygl9o

Israel cut off all supplies to Gaza from the start of March, and resumed with new restrictions in May. Along with the US, it backed the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) and allowed it to operate in Gaza.

Israel has allowed power to go in to the desalination plant as of last night and now 900,000 people have access to water again that they previously didn’t:

Late on Saturday, the Israeli military also stated that it had resumed supplying power to a desalination plant in Gaza, which it said would "serve about 900,000 residents".

so overall as of today alternative forms aid will be organized and all the trucks waiting outside Gaza will be allowed to trickle in.

The head of the UN's Palestinian refugee agency Unrwa, Philippe Lazzarini, said air drops were "expensive, inefficient, and can even kill starving civilians" if they did not go according to plan. Lazzarini said his organisation had "the equivalent of 6,000 trucks" in Jordan and Egypt waiting to enter Gaza, and urged Israel "lift the siege, open the gates and guarantee safe movements and dignified access to people in need".

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TheoriginalTonio@reddit

Nobody but the GHF has been allowed to distribute aid in Gaza.

Bullshit. The UN had 950 trucks ready sitting on the Gazan side of the border but refused to deliver them, accusing Israel of "failing to provide safe routes for convoys to travel through Gaza, making it too dangerous for staff to pick up the supplies and take them to the areas needed."

The GHF even offered to distribute some of the aid for them, saying:

“Our top priority is feeding the people of Gaza, and we’re prepared to adjust our supply chains, work with the UN or other teams to organize the packaging and transport, and distribute it to those in need, or we can work with organizations to provide security to ensure food reaches its intended destination. We are ready and able to start today.”

An offer that the UN rejected, saying that it "won’t work with groups that place Gazans at risk"

To which the GHF responded:

“Our door remains open. We are prepared to support the safe and accountable delivery of UN aid to Gazans who desperately need it. But time is short. People are starving, and food is sitting idle out of their reach. We cannot let politics stand in the way.”

That was last tuesday. And while the GHF delivered 41 truckloads of their own aid on wednesday, amounting to 2,273,040 meals, it took the UN until friday to finally convey readiness to cooperate with the GHF after all.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

Do you have a source of this or the conversation?

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textandstage@reddit

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-861899

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Do you realise you’re repeating lies or just lying on purpose.

Literally in the article I provided, it talks about how Israel blocks the border crossings.

Go away with your hasbara lies, we don’t buy it anymore.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

The OCHA, the UN specific group for aid distribution, has updated regulary as of 25 July their current status in Gaza. All articles by the UN say that they are distributing aid to this day. So the statement that only the GHF is working, is not true by the UNs own statment and information provided.

I don't know what sources BBC used for their article since they didn't link or credit anyone.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3d4kz8p00eo

BBC again from May when the initial blockade was lifted and minimal amounts were allowed in until the GHF was established, and everyone back then predicted what a shitshow it would.

I guess the BBC gets its sources from the IDF and Israeli government directly since it quotes their leaders in the news articles as well as the UN.

Similar article from the guardian from early may: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/20/israel-still-blocking-aid-for-gaza-despite-promise-to-lift-siege-says-un

I understand your confusion though since Israeli leaders frequently accuse the UN of aid failures even though it’s Israel that blocks all the border crossings.

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Commercial-Set3527@reddit

Somehow I knew you were going to make this about Gaza somehow. You cannot include Ukraine in this comparison because it is a very direct threat to western countries of Russia invading Europe. It needs to be covered way more than it is now.

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DracoLunaris@reddit

Part of it is bias, yes, but also Palestine and Ukraine are a lot easier for English speaking journalists to write about given that they can rely on the extensive amounts of journalists local to the region to do most of the legwork for them. This UN report meanwhile is probably the only pilfer-able news about the Yemen war that's come out of the region in a while.

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Dizzy_Response1485@reddit

The other thing they don't tell you is that houthis have turned as much as 40% of all arable land into khat plantations. Who needs food when you can get tweaked out and do jihad?

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beefprime@reddit

Its simple, we dont hear about any of these places unless they are connected to something the media propagandizes about (pro-Israel, anti-Russia, anti-Iran, etc), the reason for this is that media in the US exists not to provide news, but to propagandize in the interests of US capitalists.

In the Sudan, Rwanda, Myanmar, etc, there is no real resistance to what US capital wants to do, or they just don't care, so the media completely ignores them.

In Gaza, Ukraine, Yemen, etc, there is significant resistance, so the US media cranks up the propaganda machine to manufacture consent for the coming conflict.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

I have a question about the propangada in the U.S.
Every U.S. article I have seen has been Pro-Palestine, so why do you count them as pro-Israel? Or do I miss out on something?

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

https://reviewofjournalism.ca/the-not-so-subtle-price-of-writing-in-the-passive-voice/

https://www.media-diversity.org/reporting-of-shireen-abu-aqlas-murder-highliughts-biased-journalism-practices-in-western-media%EF%BF%BC/

https://theintercept.com/2024/01/09/newspapers-israel-palestine-bias-new-york-times/

Many us news outlets who have been crticial of some of Israel’s actions are also Still trying to both sides it, giving the genocide detractors room to operate.

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Asconcii@reddit

we dont hear about any of these places unless they are connected to something the media propagandizes about

The media is pro Israel😂😂😂😂😂 Christ you're delusional right

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No. We don’t care about people.

We only care about them if they look like us.

Or they have something we want.

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plastic_fortress@reddit

Israel is a very close ally of the United States and receives an enormous amount of military aid from it. That's US taxpayer money. It could not do what it's doing in Gaza without the United States' ongoing material and diplomatic support (as well as the support of other Western nations).

The direct line of causality between Western governments' actions and the horrors in Gaza means that citizens of Western countries are going, very reasonably, to be expending a disproportionate amount of their limited political bandwidth, in terms of discourse, protest, etc., on Gaza, as opposed to other events around the world. A citizen of the US is going to have far more hope of an impact protesting the US government's actions, as opposed to protesting those of, say, Saudi Arabia's. I feel a sense of responsibility for the actions my government takes "in my name", as opposed to the actions of other governments.

In any case, the notion that the Western media is giving anything like fair coverage to Gaza is really not accurate at all. Western mainstream media outlets have been shown to have a substantial pro-Israel bias and people of good faith are struggling to counteract that bias by raising awareness via social media.

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wellknownname@reddit

Clearly it's because the international Zionists control the world media... Oh wait... /s

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RICO_the_GOP@reddit

And no one gives a shit even though its much worse. Its just shows how much outrage is antisemitism.

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Impressive-Past-3614@reddit

Many such cases.

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BabylonianWeeb@reddit

Why is this downvoted, can we realize thst you can sympathize with Sudan, Yemen and Palestine at the same time?

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hannes3120@reddit

And arguably the conflicts in Yemen or Sudan are a bigger humanitarian crisis than Gaza.

But since you can't instrumentalize them as well as you can with Gaza it's not getting much coverage.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No they aren’t.

Not even close.

Gaza is the only conflict in the world where half a million people have died in 1-2 years.

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ary31415@reddit

Half a million sounds way too high, no one claims a number that large, not even Hamas

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Lol. I love this.

“That sounds a little too high”

Translation: I’m not willing to accept the death toll yet because I have not justified this to myself yet.

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ary31415@reddit

no one claims a number that large, even Hamas

Also, I didn't say "a little too high", I said WAY too high – the half-million number is a full quarter of gaza's population, and again, not even Hamas says that many people have died lol.

You don't get to lie about numbers and then criticize people for calling you out on it lol.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Yeah.

It is a full quarter of the population.

What the hell did you think you’ve been watching for the past months?

Did you actually think that dropping the equivalent of several nuclear bombs on a densely packed place like Gaza - while not allowing anyone to leave - wouldn’t result in a quarter of the population dying?

I’m not the one making up numbers.

You are just the one trying to delegitimize numbers because they make you look really bad.

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ary31415@reddit

I’m not the one making up numbers.

Source: it came to me in a dream

I can't delegitimize numbers that were never legitimate to begin with. I notice you haven't cited a single source, let alone a reliable one.

Like genuinely, how do you expect me to treat this as anything other than you making up numbers? If you told me 80 million people had died, would I be expected to just take that on faith too? Without anything at all by way of sources, there is literally no way to distinguish this claim from your personal fantasy.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

The confirmed deaths by UN and other international organisation range from 55-80.000. Approx 1-1.5% of the total population of the Gaza strip.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Who counts and confirms deaths?

Hospitals.

At any time since Israel’s invasion has the IDF bombed or attacked a hospital?

Doesn’t matter what their reasoning was, have they ever done that?

Of course. All hospitals have been wiped off the map.

So; who is counting casualties?

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SalokinSekwah@reddit

> So; who is counting casualties?

The same ways most conflicts determine the death toll; extrapolating statistical surveys. Or do you think people count every individual fatality?

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SalokinSekwah@reddit

> Gaza is the only conflict in the world where half a million people have died in 1-2 years.

This is based on what? The same claims have been put forward regarding the Tigray war (up to 600k) and Sudan (over 500k), the later conflict more likely being far worse in terms of deaths

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flaamed@reddit

How do you make up these numbers? Do you use a random number generator on Google

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

That is the number of people unaccounted for in Gaza.

Now considering they can’t leave Gaza that only means one thing.

If you would like to enlighten us on here those 500,000 people are, it would be helpful.

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hannes3120@reddit

Check your facts

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Multiple compounded crises – such as sustained economic decline, currency depreciation in southern governorates, conflict, and increasingly severe weather – are driving food insecurity in Yemen

While Israel directly shoots, bombs and starves children.

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Minimum-Enthusiasm14@reddit

Can you, though? I’ve seen people sympathizing with only one for months and months.

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ParagonRenegade@reddit

it’s been up for seven minutes 😅

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Everyone needs to know this simple background information:

1.) Yemen was divided between North and South Yemen by the Yemen Arab Republic (North) and the People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen (South) during the Cold War.

2.) this article is describing Southern Yemen.

Not North Yemen, which is controlled by the Houthis.

3.) the “Houthis” is a colloquial term like “Marxists” or “Thatcherites”.

Houthi comes from “al-Houthi” who was the founder of Ansah Allah, the Zaydi Shia political movement opposed to President Saleh.

4.) the Yemen Civil War has 2 tiers: - conflict between Ansah Allah and anti-Ansah Allah forces.

conflict within anti-Ansah Allah forces between the Saudi Arabian backed Islah party (called the Presidential Leadership Council or PLC) and the Emirati backed Southern Movement (called the Southern Transitional Council or STC)

The PLC is a right wing, Salafi fundamentalist group that supports the total unity of Yemen. It is closely associated with the old pre-2011 dictator Saleh.

The STC is a left wing, socialist, secular group that supports the secession of Southern Yemen and the recreation of a secular, socialist state in South Yemen.

5.) In 2022, STC forces began an offensive against PLC forces. After defeating Islah party soldiers, they focused their attacks on Al-Qaeda & Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP)

6.) all of Yemen has been under a former Saudi-led blockade. First targeting Ansah Allah ports in the North. Then targeting Southern Movement ports in the South.

7.) this blockade has eased somewhat with the normalization of ties between Saudi Arabia and Iran brokered by Iran. Peace negotiations followed and since 2022, the Houthis have not attacked KSA affiliated forces.

Instead, the war in Gaza has created unity between former enemies.

8.) America and NATO took over blockade efforts when Saudi Arabia dialed back its intervention. This direct military action has been coupled with indirect pressure, withholding aid shipments and such.

9.) Israel and American strikes in North Yemen have targeted ports and other civilian infrastructure. They are trying to use the same techniques in North Yemen as they used in Gaza; apply heavy pressure on the civilian population in response to government actions to get the government to abandon those actions.

10.) the Houthis were enemies with Hamas up until 2021.

The fact that they are now slinging rockets at Israel and willing to take a pounding to stand with their former enemies should be a huge red flag to everyone.

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Minimum-Enthusiasm14@reddit

Don’t forget to include the fact that the STC joined the PLC and now holds 3 of 8 seats on it. It appears that, at least for now, that part of the civil war is over, and it’s just the Houthis vs everyone else.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No, it’s the other way around.

The everyone vs Houthis part is over and winding down.

The Houthis basically control North Yemen and they don’t believe in Greater Yemen.

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Minimum-Enthusiasm14@reddit

Do you have a source for that? I’m not finding any reports of fighting between the STC and the PLC.

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wq1119@reddit

the Houthis were enemies with Hamas up until 2021.

The fact that they are now slinging rockets at Israel and willing to take a pounding to stand with their former enemies should be a huge red flag to everyone.

Hamas also reconciled with Assad under Iranian pressure despite Assad's brutal suppression and massacre of the Muslim Brotherhood, this isn't surprising, Iran is just telling its proxies to quit arguing and get in line.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Dude, there is no secret Iranian plot. Like this is just ridiculous.

This is just like how for 50 years they told us Moscow controlled all these groups and proxies.

Yet it fought wars against some of them.

It’s just silly. It is a child’s attempt at making sense of the world.

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wq1119@reddit

says that what I wrote is wrong

refuse to elaborate

says that I have a childish worldview

leaves

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RockstepGuy@reddit

The STC is a left wing, socialist, secular group that supports the secession of Southern Yemen and the recreation of a secular, socialist state in South Yemen.

For real? i know that South Yemen before at some point was socialist, but i don't remember reading the STC was planning on bringing back socialism, their lifeline also comes from the UAE, doubt those guys want a socialist Yemen.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Not in the communist sense but they are pretty socialist.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

FYI's:

The Yemen crisis is an ongoing multilateral civil war that began in late 2014 mainly between the Rashad al-Alimi-led Presidential Leadership Council (international recognized goverment body) and the Mahdi al-Mashat-led Supreme Political Council (Houthi led-goverment opposition), along with their supporters and allies.

It started when Houthi forces took over the capital city. The Houthis themselves are an Islamist terrorist organisation backed by Iran. The conflict is often referred to as the "Iran-Saudi proxy conflict."

The last comprehensive UN estimate came from UNDP in 2021 projecting around 377.000 deaths between 2015-2021.

Nearly 17 million Yemen people face acute food insecurity (IPC Phase 3 or above) since mid-2025). Malnutrition for children under five reach 33% of the popluation according to UNICEF.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

The Houthis are not some “Islamic terrorist group”.

They are a Shia ethnic group/tribe.

“Houthis” comes from al-Houthi the name of the tribe most of their leaders come from.

Also known as Ansah Allah they have led an insurgency since 2004 in response to government policies and “sunnification”.

The Houthis were the biggest supporters of 2011 Arab Spring protests to remove Saleh.

The proxy war aspects of the war are due to America fanned divisions in the region.

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GothicGolem29@reddit

There is a Houthis ethnicity/tribe but there is also have a Houthis political and military terror organisation

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Yes, I understand that. The lines between the two have blurred.

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GothicGolem29@reddit

Yeah they have

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CJBill@reddit

The origins lie deeper than the 2014 Houthi attack though.

Main thing is this is most certainly a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran, with other countries happy to help arm and intervene along the way.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No. Not really.

Maybe from a few thousand miles away that’s all it looks like.

In reality, the Yemen Civil War is the latest iteration of the internal conflict Yemen has faced since independence.

Previously, Yemen was divided between the Yemen Arab Republic in the North, a Nasserist style secular republic, and the communist People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen in the South.

The Yemen Arab Republic was wracked by a 8 year long civil war. Ironically, during that war the monarchist forces of the Kingdom of Yemen (North Yemen) fled to Saudi Arabia and used it as a base.

Those monarchist forces were Zaydi Shia forces. The literal forerunners of today’s Houthis.

The Kingdom of Yemen (North Yemen) had a 55% Zaydi Shia and 45% Sunni split. The Yemen Arab Republic empowered the Sunni tribes over the Shia.

Today’s Houthis are the descendants of the Kingdom of Yemen Zaydi rulers.

In 2014, a UN peace agreement in Sana’a gave the Houthis political control over North Yemen after a 10 year conflict.

Essentially, Yemen has divided back into the two countries it was prior to 1990. A Zaydi Shia Islamic Houthi run North Yemen. And a socialist, secular South Yemen.

All efforts since then have been attempts by America (and/or Israel) to keep a conflict going forever.

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BlueBunny333@reddit (OP)

Of course underlying problems run far deeper, but I just wanted to summarize the context of what is happening in a coherent overview.
I find myself needing to look up context when reading an article or news on a topic outside my own country, so I hope this helps people to contextualize.

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CJBill@reddit

Know what you mean wrt context. It's labyrinthine in the Middle East!

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Asconcii@reddit

Watch this get absolutely zero traction from the UN chief, and other bodies which have been loudly decrying certain other countries for months.

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Pklnt@reddit

Watch this get absolutely zero traction from the UN chief

8 Years ago:

"Nine months ago, some twenty million people were at severe risk of famine in South Sudan, Somalia, Yemen and North-east Nigeria. About one hundred thousand people in South Sudan were on the verge of starvation."

In Yemen, we face increasing constraints and interference by the Alliance of Houthis and Ali Abdellah Saleh controlling Sana'a, the Government of Yemen and its partners from “the coalition to restore legitimacy in Yemen”, led by Saudi Arabia. I call on all parties to ensure unhindered access to people in need.

7 Years ago:

"Good afternoon. Allow me a clear message about the situation in Yemen – the worst humanitarian crisis in the world.[...]"

A couple months before that statement:

"Yemen is the world’s worst humanitarian crisis."

"As the conflict enters its fourth year, more than 22 million people – three-quarters of the population – need humanitarian aid and protection."

5 Years ago:

Yemen is now in imminent danger of the worst famine the world has seen for decades. In the absence of immediate action, millions of lives may be lost.

4 Years ago:

More than 16 million people are expected to go hungry this year. Nearly 50,000 Yemenis are already starving to death in famine-like conditions. The worst hunger is in areas affected by the conflict.

Four million people across Yemen have been forced from their homes. The recent Houthi offensive in Marib threatens to displace hundreds of thousands more.

3 Years ago:

“as a matter of moral responsibility, of human decency and compassion, of international solidarity, and of life and death – we must support the people of Yemen now.” He further added that “Yemen may have receded from the headlines, but the human suffering has not relented. A funding crunch risks catastrophe.”

2 Years ago:

Today, more than 21 million people – two in three Yemeni children, women, and men – need assistance and protection.

This Year:

From Gaza and Sudan, to Yemen and Mali, conflict-driven hunger is shattering records.

Same thing for the other bodies, they cared about Yemen long before you started to care to make your whataboutisms in order to defend Israel.

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Asconcii@reddit

How many times has Israel been sanctioned by the UN Vs Saudi

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re_carn@reddit

Well, none? The US vetoed all sanctions that the UN tried to impose on Israel.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

It is getting traction, the issue is that, quoting the article here:

Multiple compounded crises – such as sustained economic decline, currency depreciation in southern governorates, conflict, and increasingly severe weather – are driving food insecurity in Yemen

While in Gaza Israel is directly starving the people.

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Asconcii@reddit

While in Gaza Israel is directly starving the people

😂 No they're not.

How much food has Israel provided Palestine compared to Saudi providing for Yemen?

Oh wait Saudi haven't provided a single drop of water in aid to Yemen.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Clearly not enough food is being let in by Israel hence the starvstion and dead babies. The Egypt crossing is being blocked by Israel.

Yes saudi and the US is bad too along with the Houthis because of the suffering they cause.

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Asconcii@reddit

Clearly not enough food is being let in by Israel hence the starvstion and dead babies

Even if you believe the figures released by Hamas who blatantly inflate figures the number is about 100 since the start of the war.

Over 20,000 people died of malnutrition in 2022 in the USA.

Why aren't you protesting that and calling the US government a genocidal state.

What about Belgium, they recorded nearly 300 malnutrition related deaths in 2020.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

We do call the US a genocidal state?

Belgium isn’t bombing people it occupies while cutting off their electricity and water.

i’m glad its clear how many of you Israelis and Pro-Israelis are blatant about your deflection from Israeli war crimes when complaining about people being angry at the zionist movement under a thread about Yemen.

Shows how much some of you just wish the world would let Israel carry on murdering and starving people.

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Asconcii@reddit

Belgium isn’t bombing people it occupies while cutting off their electricity and water

Yet more people are dying from starvation in Belgium than Palestine.

i’m glad its clear how many of you Israelis and Pro-Israelis are blatant about your deflection from Israeli war crimes

What war crimes exactly?

You're arguing that Israel are starving Palestine, yet I just proved to you that there's less starvation in Palestine than fucking Belgium, and you dismissed it.

starving people.

Again, you just don't seem to be able to handle any actual facts do you

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Mo4d93@reddit

You are still asking about what war crimes?

It truly feels like sometimes you guys live in an alternative world.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

You didn’t prove anything, just a bunch of nonsense trying to deny genocide like many Pro-Israeli accounts here.

Deflecting and claiming everyone else is out to get you etc, the issue is that nobody buys it.

Now run along and defend your genocide in worldnews if you want no pushback.

Also, this is a thread about Yemen, you’re making it about Israel.

Shoo.

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Asconcii@reddit

You didn’t prove anything, just a bunch of nonsense trying to deny genocide like many Pro-Israeli accounts here.

https://time.com/7305151/gaza-starvation-children-hunger-malnutrition-israel/

113 people have died from malnutrition in Palestine since the start of the war.

These numbers are directly from fucking Hamas.

So yes, continuing to say that Israel is starving Palestine is blatantly lying

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Are we really going to get into how many people Israel has directly killed?

Go away kid. Nobody has time for your bullshit.

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Asconcii@reddit

You claimed Israel was deliberately starving people.

You're the one who made that claim.

Where's the actual evidence of deaths?

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Mo4d93@reddit

Yes, they are. You only care about Yemen now because it somehow, for you, whitewah Isael.

The Egyptian border is controlled by Israel. Get your facts straight, at least.

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redpandaeater@reddit

Well it's a bit harder to care given how you would supply southern Yemen would be via ship and the Houthis love attacking those. As far as I'm concerned they basically want to turn their countrymen into martyrs and it would take a lot to overcome that.

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Asconcii@reddit

As far as I'm concerned they basically want to turn their countrymen into martyrs

And Hamas don't 😂

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redpandaeater@reddit

They both do, but Israel participates in the world economy and has always had a disproportionately large focus on it. Yemen is in a very sad state but I don't think you'll get the UN or anyone else to devote the required amount of resources to really do anything about it given other conflicts in the region and Europe.

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Asconcii@reddit

They both do, but Israel participates in the world economy and has always had a disproportionately large focus on it.

So. Does. Saudi.

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wq1119@reddit

Both should get traction and attention, same thing with Sudan.

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Asconcii@reddit

The entire point is that they don't, because nobody gives a shit unless it's about attacking the Jews.

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SpontaneousFlame@reddit

I'm hoping this gets a lot of traction because I hope that no one goes out of their way to try and starve Yemen, or declare that genociding Yemen is a moral or religious imperative.

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One-Kaleidoscope6806@reddit

Another middle eastern nation that has zero ability to govern their people and puts all of their resources into a futile effort to destroy Israel. Shocking.

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EbolaaPancakes@reddit

Maybe the houthis should stop using all their money to buy weapons to join other peoples wars and instead work on feeding their population.

Just something to think about ......

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sheytanelkebir@reddit

this article is about a region outside the control of the houthis. Maybe you should have a cursory understanding of a topic before forming an opinion and sharing it.

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SpontaneousFlame@reddit

Are the Houthis blocking aid to the rest of the country somehow? Or is this an external force blockading Yemen?

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Multiple compounded crises – such as sustained economic decline, currency depreciation in southern governorates, conflict, and increasingly severe weather – are driving food insecurity in Yemen

multitude of reasons as to why it’s worse. Also it’s been going on for more than 10 Years at this point while people in Gaza are being intentionally starved.

In a fair world this wouldn’t be happening at all, but alas, we need proxy wars everywhere.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

It’s been going on for 20 years. Where have you been?

The Houthi insurgency began in 2004 due to discrimination against Shia, sunnification and other government policies.

And even before that you had the 1994 Yemen Civil War between North & South.

Before unification in 1990, you had 2 Yemenite Wars between the communist, People’s Democratic Republic of Yemen in the South and the Nasserist Yemen Arab Republic in the North.

But even the Yemen Arab Republic in the North faced an 8 year civil war between Nasserite, secular Arab Socialists who were mainly Sunni and the monarchist, Kingdom of Yemen forces that were Zaydi Shia.

Ironically, those monarchist forces were supported by Saudi Arabia.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

The war had been considerably hotter in the last 10 years, hence me saying more than 10 years.

Saudi is the US’ proxy in that war. Both the Saudis and the US want to ensure shipping lanes through the Suez canal are protected and an unstable Shia Yemen is a threat to that, particularly since Saudi Arabia’s main import routes are through Jeddah while its main exports of fuel and petrochemicals leave through the east and go through the red sea.

They don’t want a Shia group backed by Iran to threaten them and the US also wants the red sea open.

Either way, innocent people are suffering, and makes everything even more depressing.

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

No, Israel’s bone headed actions is a threat to shipping.

Like this is not complex. You want ease of shipping?

Then stop bombing children.

I like how people point out Shia/Sunni differences yet couldn’t tell you how they are different

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Outside forces blocking aid to Yemen.

The Israeli strikes everyone cheered on were targeted at things like Ports and other civilian infrastructure.

Israel was trying to do in Yemen what they did in Gaza.

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EbolaaPancakes@reddit

whilst the situation is also very bad in the houthi areas (because of the suspension of WFP aid shipments

I think you mean to say the situation is bad in all of Yemen because the Houthis broke the country, and now don't care enough about the citizens do help. They prefer to buy weapons and volunteer the country to be a proxy of Iran.

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PlinyToTrajan@reddit

The Houthis are just one side of the conflict, why would you isolate them for blame?

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Mundane_Emu8921@reddit

Totally. So the Yemen Civil War of 1994 was due to the Houthis?

And the North Yemen Civil War from 1962-1970 was also the result of the Houthis?

Yemen has been in civil war for most of its existence.

The Houthis began an insurgency back in 2004 due to disagreements with government policies, sunnification, and discrimination.

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SirStupidity@reddit

What is the underlying cause in government controlled areas? I assume government forces are cooperative with international aid providers

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sheytanelkebir@reddit

It’s mismanagement and carelessness

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Top-Commander@reddit

How could Israel do this? 😭

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PlinyToTrajan@reddit

Are you not aware that Israel has bombed civilian infrastructure in Yemen, including a port used to import food?

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there_is_no_spoon1@reddit

Then STOP FUCKING SHOOTING MISSILES AT SHIPS PASSING THRU THE FUCKING SHIPPING LANE YOU FUCKING BARBARIANS!! Act like humans, get treated like humans. Act like assholes, well you get the point.

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rosemaryrouge@reddit

Even after this, the West will still fund and arm Saudi Arabia even though they are an Islamist dictatorship that starves Yemeni people.

End this madness.

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Elucidate137@reddit

hmm crazy that when you wage war on a country and bomb them, invade them, and attack them constantly, there will be consequences! as usual, the united states, saudi, and the west are to blame for creating this situation

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SowingSalt@reddit

I remember years ago seeing an article about how there was significant water well drilling, comparable to oil well exploration in the big 3, that have almost completely drained the Yemeni aquifer.

IIRC the interviewee blamed the narcotics cultivation industry.

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empleadoEstatalBot@reddit

Yemen: Nearly half the population facing acute food insecurity in some southern areas

Yemen: Nearly half the population facing acute food insecurity in some southern areas

23 June 2025 Humanitarian Aid

The food security situation in Government-controlled areas of southern Yemen is dire, with nearly half the population facing acute food insecurity and struggling to find their next meal.

Yemen remains trapped in a prolonged political, humanitarian and development crisis, after enduring years of conflict between government forces and Houthi rebels, with populations in the south of the country now facing a growing food insecurity crisis.

A partial update released Monday by the UN-backed Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) system – which ranks food insecurity from Phase 1 to famine conditions, or Phase 5 – paints a grim picture.

Starting in May 2025, around 4.95 million people have been facing crisis-level food insecurity or worse (Phase 3+), including 1.5 million facing emergency-level food insecurity (Phase 4).

These numbers mark an increase of 370,000 people suffering from severe food insecurity compared to the period from November 2024 to February 2025.

Further deterioration

The UN World Food Programme (WFP) warned that “looking ahead, the situation [was] expected to deteriorate further,” with 420,000 people potentially falling into crisis-level food insecurity or worse.

This would bring the total number of severely food-insecure people in southern governorate areas to 5.38 million – more than half the population.

Multiple compounded crises – such as sustained economic decline, currency depreciation in southern governorates, conflict, and increasingly severe weather – are driving food insecurity in Yemen.

High-risk areas

Amid Yemen’s growing food crisis, humanitarian agencies including WFP, the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF), and the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) are reorienting their efforts towards high-risk areas, delivering integrated support across food security, nutrition, sanitation, health, and protection to maximise life-saving impact.

“The fact that more and more people in Yemen don’t know where their next meal will come from is extremely concerning at a time when we are experiencing unprecedented funding challenges,” said Siemon Hollema, Deputy Country Director of WFP in Yemen.

Immediate support needed

WFP, UNICEF and FAO are urgently calling for sustained and large-scale humanitarian and livelihood assistance to prevent communities from falling deeper into food insecurity, and to ensure that the UN “can continue to serve the most vulnerable families that have nowhere else to turn,” he said.

Internally displaced persons, low-income rural households, and vulnerable children are particularly affected, and are now facing increased vulnerability, as approximately 2.4 million children under the age of five and 1.5 million pregnant and lactating women are currently suffering from acute malnutrition.

The situation is dire, but with urgent support, “we can revitalise local food production, safeguard livelihoods, and move from crisis to resilience building, ensuring efficiency and impact,” said FAO Representative in Yemen, Dr. Hussain Gadain.

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