Gabbard and White House 'lying' about intel on Russian interference in 2016, ex-CIA official says
Posted by funkalunatic@reddit | tulsi | View on Reddit | 31 comments
CJ4700@reddit
Ex CIA official huh? Like those 50 ex CIA officials who said Covid came from a pangolin and not the Wuhan lab?
Aggressive-Rope758@reddit
Yea that makes sense. You've got your head all the way in the sand and straight up thru your ass. Wise up moron
SeveredFromMySoul@reddit
Still no evidence of lab leak btw, cope and seethe
CJ4700@reddit
You’re a bot dingus
LactoceTheIntolerant@reddit
Exactly. They’re supposed to be smart! They should have known the answers instantly!!
Theghostofjoehill@reddit
Ah, using an “ex” CIA agent as a credible news source. Good one.
late_warmonger@reddit
What is your source for analyzing the depth of her objectively-easy-to-spot lies on this topic?
EnglebertFinklgruber@reddit
You’re the one making the assertion using a professional liar.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/06/gabbard-russia-report-cia-trump/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzU0NDUyODAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzU1ODM1MTk5LCJpYXQiOjE3NTQ0NTI4MDAsImp0aSI6IjRiZDcwZjlkLTY5ZjAtNDA0OC04MTVmLWYzN2EzMjNiM2M3ZSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDI1LzA4LzA2L2dhYmJhcmQtcnVzc2lhLXJlcG9ydC1jaWEtdHJ1bXAvIn0.zThlbluXeljlYmzIFF1M0sI_iGv-x5PudmNVLDbH7LM
late_warmonger@reddit
I'm just asking the commenter what their preferred source is for information about Tulsi's lies on this topic... I didn't make much of an assertion.
I prefer the document she released as my source. It's pretty easy to spot how she conflates the IC conclusions and then dishonestly accuses Obama of treason. Have you read what she released?
EnglebertFinklgruber@reddit
I bet you were as discerning when Russiagate was conflating Russia doing normal statecraft with Trump colluding with them. Have a single standard and apply it evenly.
late_warmonger@reddit
I accept what's in the IC reports and bi-partisan investigations (no evidence of collusion). I also accept that the investigations were warranted because of all the goofy and shady AF shit that Trump does by his nature was frightening to the IC (and rightly so)... I also accept that he likely obstructed justice.
EnglebertFinklgruber@reddit
Also, if Trump obstructed justice, he’d be in jail. We are , after all, a nation of laws /s.
EnglebertFinklgruber@reddit
Yeah, cherry picking when to take professional liars at face value. Just like Trump supporters do. Nice rationalizations though.
juflyingwild@reddit
Remember Pompeo?
We learned to lie cheat and steal at the CIA.
funkalunatic@reddit (OP)
The article is reporting what Susan Miller said, not that what she said is fact.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
Hell yes, she is. Anything to distract from Epstein.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/08/06/gabbard-russia-report-cia-trump/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzU0NDUyODAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzU1ODM1MTk5LCJpYXQiOjE3NTQ0NTI4MDAsImp0aSI6IjRiZDcwZjlkLTY5ZjAtNDA0OC04MTVmLWYzN2EzMjNiM2M3ZSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb25hbC1zZWN1cml0eS8yMDI1LzA4LzA2L2dhYmJhcmQtcnVzc2lhLXJlcG9ydC1jaWEtdHJ1bXAvIn0.zThlbluXeljlYmzIFF1M0sI_iGv-x5PudmNVLDbH7LM
kenuffff@reddit
So she says they knew that there was no collusion,but Russia wanted trump elected. Yeah I’m sure they did as Clinton and Obama tried to get Putin out for years , I like how the us meddles in foreign elections 24/7 but when other countries then do the same thing it’s the end of democracy. Maybe don’t start doing this in the first place, I’m sure china didn’t want trump elected in 20 and 24 , so does that make Biden an illegitimate president?
funkalunatic@reddit (OP)
China absolutely wanted Trump. Sun Tzu said "Never interrupt your opponent while he is in the middle of making a mistake."
kenuffff@reddit
trump is awful for china, iran alone is a big problem for them.
LactoceTheIntolerant@reddit
Most of the global economy is based on the US dollar, and right now, it’s crashing.
China needs a strong dollar to prop up their over-leveraged economy.
Russia has blown through all their coffers and are on the verge of financial collapse.
The EU wouldn’t be strong enough to weather a collapse this big.
The rich are making their global grab
cyberfx1024@reddit
It's crashing, where do you get that exactly? I follow a couple currencies and right now after the April shock it is coming back up almost to pre-April rates
Uncle_Paul_Hargis@reddit
For what it’s worth, my default assumption is that all politicians are lying constantly.
Hard-Core_Troubadour@reddit
So Susan Miller now says, to NBC, that the CIA team that put together the 2017 Intelligence Assessment “found no two-way collusion between Trump or his team with the Russians.”
Fascinating that no one leaked that information to NBC at the time.
PackAttacks@reddit
You guys need to get a dictionary and lookup the word collusion and get some critical thinking skills and understand that there can be no PROVEN collusion and still links.
The Mueller investigation documents multiple non‑criminal links between Trump campaign members and Russian actors—described throughout Volume I, Section IV and summarized in the report’s broader findings. These include direct meetings, exchanges of information, and campaign actions influenced by Russian interference. However, investigators did not find sufficient evidence to prove a criminal conspiracy or coordination.
This section details numerous contacts between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and Russian government-linked actors, describing them as part of a “coordinated effort.” While the investigation concluded it did not establish criminal conspiracy or coordination, these links are documented in full—you can find them in Section IV.
Mueller’s team applied conspiracy-law definitions to investigate whether any Americans may have “joined the Russian conspiracies to influence the election.” Conclusion: The report did not establish that Trump campaign members conspired or coordinated with Russia. However, it affirms “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump campaign,” noting that campaign members expected to benefit electorally from Russian hacking and disinformation efforts.
The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Trump campaign members (Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner) and a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer promising opposition research on Hillary Clinton. Although not criminal, the meeting represents another tangible link to Russian influence efforts.
LactoceTheIntolerant@reddit
These people would be mad if they could read.
kenuffff@reddit
I don’t understand the argument against this, even mueller concluded this and this is after dropping process crimes on many trump allies to flip them , I think trump has very serious problems but to think this is the guy the Russians would choose as some Manchurian candidate is insane, he can’t even collude with his own team
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
LOL, NBC news.
LactoceTheIntolerant@reddit
Is there one you’d accept?
felixthewug_03@reddit
r/noshitsherlock
TlkShowHost@reddit
Yup. Tulsi, like her pimp, are fucking idiots.