9800x3d what motherboard is safest?
Posted by TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 85 comments
After asking for advise on cpu choice, I discovered the the 9800x3d has many issues staying alive. Many people say Asrock is the issue, but I also sae confirmed reports of instability with the cpu across other mobo's. My question is, if I were to get this cpu over the 7800x3d what motherboard do you use that yields the best results? Alot of people praise this chip for its capability, but dont comment on its longevity.
(Sorry for double posting to the sub)
dougquaid28@reddit
I have an MSI X870e Tomahawk and it’s been working great so far with my 9800X3D!
Embarrassed-Rip6923@reddit
Following you now
Scarabesque@reddit
Great board but unless you have specific need for the additional lanes there is no reason to get this over the X870 or even B850 version (unless you need USB 4.0).
AlarmingConsequence@reddit
Can you help me understand PCIe lanes? How do I know if my GPU isn't being bottlenecked by my motherboard's number/type of lanes?
[FYI - I understand that current PCIe5 hardware is more expensive with only slightly improved performance compared to PCIe4, so for most people PCIe5 isn't a good value.]
lichtspieler@reddit
AM5 CPU's have 28x PCIE 5.0 lanes and it doesnt really matter what configuration some mainboards allow with PCIE lanes, bifurcation and bandwith reduction will be used if you hit the 28x PCIE 5.0 bandwith with components.
The 16x GPU lanes are usually only impacted by 8x8x bifurcation, if you use more than just two M.2's.
A few x670E boards allow you to use four M.2 storages AND still keep the 16x GPU lanes, but most X670(E) boards and the even worse nearly all x870(E) boards with USB4.0 REQUIREMENTS will cut after 3 or 4 M.2 into the 16x GPU lanes.
USB4.0 is most of the time the reason why you even need to check mainboard manuals for bifurcation and some mainboard layouts with PCIE configurations are quite honestly just stupid for a gaming system.
While we could argue that two M.2's are enough for everyone, M.2 capacity did not change that much over the last 5 years, while games and data growth skyrocketed in storage requirements - it is not that hard to need 3-4 M.2's especially if you want the value and not the 4TB variants.
Overall AM5 is fantastic compared to Intel when it comes to PCIE bandwith, but a lot - A LOT of AM5 mainboards are not designed for 4x storage without touching the GPU lanes. If you know this, you can just filter out all the stupid AM5 mainboards and if you are fine with just 2x M.2 you dont have to care at all what board you get for reasons of PCIE lane configuration.
BurnedPriest@reddit
No modern motherboard is going to bottleneck your GPU, assuming you are using the correct slot.
passey89@reddit
Got it with the 9950x3d as well. 0 issues
castrator21@reddit
Seconded
Beneficial-Finger353@reddit
I have the ASUS TUF Gaming X870, had it since Feb, and no issues.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
Nice, waiting to update the post but i got 9800x3d dead on arrival
Bourne069@reddit
Atleast you didn't get an Asrock https://www.reddit.com/r/ASRock/comments/1iui7lx/9800x3d_failuresdeaths_megathread/
MoltresRising@reddit
Gigabyte or MSI are your best bet. Asus has issues with their mobo-level software and security. ASRock has multiple issues, even on newest BIOS.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
This seems to be the consesus, thank you!
madskee@reddit
Get the b850 aorus elite wifi7
AfflictedFox@reddit
I just bought that yesterday. It's so slick and the back connects are awesome. I can't wait until it gets here Friday.
MetzenMalvin@reddit
Are there different variations? Because I have the b850 elite wifi 7 on my build-list, in white, but it doesn't look to me like it has back-connect.
AfflictedFox@reddit
The "Stealth" variant are the models with back-connects. There are only 4 models, out of the potentially thousands of MB's, with back-connects. Gigabyte makes 3 of them. Asus makes 1 and MSI makes 1.
Here is the one I got: https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B850-AORUS-STEALTH-ICE#kf
MetzenMalvin@reddit
Ah, ok. Got my hopes up for a short while because I would love to have such a clean motherboard. But I can't get myself to pay 50% extra just for that. 😅
hewhodared@reddit
Do you notice if you try to mash the delete key at the bios splash screen it’s too late? I feel like if I’m not mashing delete right after I power on my pc, the system flies to windows so quickly. I dunno if the board just doesn’t love my kbdfans keyboard or something.
festess@reddit
I have this one, works great
Logical_Bit2694@reddit
I got that one. Its very nice
OrganTrafficker900@reddit
Get b850 gaming X its cheap and functional
Alucard661@reddit
Respectfully with are you going 9800X3D if you want cheap and functional
Zz2zZz2zZz2z@reddit
Its a 400 bucks cpu not 4000, its fine if you dont want to waste money on a morherboard
ProtonPi314@reddit
I went MSI and loving it
devleesh@reddit
On the gigabyte aorus elite x870e Wi-Fi and loving it. Usually have always gone ASUS ROG boards but I couldn’t justify spending thst much on a mobo this time round.
Southern_Okra_1090@reddit
Asus tuf b650. Been on this board since it 9800x3d dropped.
Aggravating_Ring_714@reddit
Asus works perfectly for my 9950x3d. Any non Asrock board is good.
Morlu@reddit
People saying ASUS boards killing CPU’s. Never seen it on r/ASUS but I see 2/3 a day on r/asrock
Dizzy_Break_2194@reddit
The MSI boards seem to be where is at with this gen, great pieces of kit
LtDarthWookie@reddit
Really like my MSI Pro X870 board. First board I've bought with integrated wifi. Was handy when my pc temporarily lived in the living room.
Giant_Swigz@reddit
I have an AsRock Nova and have had zero issues with anything. I was sold on the Nova due to nvme expansion and price.
swarkzero@reddit
I honestly didn't want to risk it and I went with a 7800x3d instead.
The price difference was about 90e so I felt the 7800x3d was more than enough combined with the fact you don't have to worry about it dying on you.
AD1SAN0@reddit
Same here. Much less hassle, almost same performance.
ThePandazz@reddit
I had not heard of this and I just upgraded to the 9800x3d... Hopefully my gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax holds up lmao
Radicalnotion528@reddit
I'm using MSI X870 Pro with it. No issues so far.
KoldPurchase@reddit
Msi Tomahawk series, or Gigabyte Aorus. B650e or x870 ot x870e, depending on the features you want/need.
Luc4_Blight@reddit
I have a Gigabyte x670 Gaming X AX v2, no issues
AreMeOfOne@reddit
People saying Asrock kills CPU’s have no idea it’s been fixed with a BIOS update. I’ve been running my 9800x3D on an NZXT N7 which is manufactured by Asrock every day for a couple months now and it’s been completely fine.
Phloof_@reddit
I think asus and gigabyte are your best options for the 9800X3D right now. I saw a report that said some MSI motherboards had fried a some 9000 series CPUs. Obviously you’d have to be insane to buy an ASRock motherboard right now, but tbh any other brand should be fine.
Just_Maintenance@reddit
I have also heard about ASUS killing CPUs.
BASSmittens420@reddit
Never heard of any problems with asus and 9800x3. Only real issue was the asrock boards. I’m rocking the asus x870a with mine
Polly_____@reddit
Neither have I, baseless claims from OP, most issues have been from the other brands
Reasonable_Doughnut5@reddit
Asus and ASrock r the killers for these CPUs I did tons of research when I recently bought mine and those 2 companies where the only 2 that had the issues. I mean sure yea there was a few here and there for other companies but it was mostly down to user error
dreamARTz@reddit
I guess I dodged the bullet, got a 9800x3d paired with x870e Asrock Taichi for half a year at least and no issues.
Moscato359@reddit
I've had an asus board with a 9800x3d since like 9 months ago or something no issues
YetanotherGrimpak@reddit
How many cases tho? Is it possible that this is still within expected failure rate?
MarxistMan13@reddit
There's no evidence that there's any failure rate above the norm with brands other than ASRock. ASUS' issues are with other things, as well as their notoriously bad RMA service.
Given the ASRock issues, the ASUS issues, and the shaky Gigabyte warranty process, I'd personally go MSI currently.
(On a 9800X3D and ASRock B850 LiveMixer Wifi right now. No problems so far.)
RayOronoz@reddit
msi carbon x670 WORKING GUUUUDD
Critical_C0conut@reddit
B650 Aorus Elite AX Ice with 0 problems since April.
Repulsive_Ocelot_738@reddit
I went MSI Pro B650-P WiFi this build and haven’t had too many issues besides ram timing issues but that’s been long patched up by now. I don’t like the Bios UI as much as I liked the ASUS TUF in my 6700k build from 2015 but I wasn’t going to buy anything ASUS or Corsair this go around
alfiejr23@reddit
Msi is a nice choice. I've used a number of their motherboards before and so far no particular issues.
Recently bought the b850 gaming plus wifi and it's a solid motherboard. The bios is easy to navigate and pretty rich feature wise.
NGGKroze@reddit
second that - very solid with 7800X3D and 64GB RAM. Also the clear cmos feature is neat on the back.
BolterAura@reddit
I’ve been fine with an AsRock NOVA x870e since Feb. but that being said, I could be a ticking time bomb…
Pursueth@reddit
If you get a MSI motherboard be sure to disable all waves audio nonsense as the MSI motherboards do not like it and you will get better performance if you disable that shitty audio software that every audio device tries to shovel into your computer
SPRNinja@reddit
Remember that you see all the reports of failures, and not the millions of happy customers.
I've got a gigabyte B850 Aorus ICE with a 9800X3D and no issues.
Dapper-Chocolate-535@reddit
Got a x870 aorus elite wifi board and it has been working fantastic with my 9800x3d and 9070xt. Great pairing between the 3.
60five@reddit
I got a gigabyte with 9800x3d in a super compact sff case, been working well!
Pig_Syrup@reddit
The Tomahawk x870e is really nice and solid, but the out of the box bio is a bit patchy with memory training issues, so make sure you're ready to update it as a priority, and do so before enabling Expo profiles etc.
TortieMVH@reddit
Just get the 7800x3D and forget the stress.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
Wait fr? Its actually that bad?
MarxistMan13@reddit
No. Out of tens of thousands of 9800X3Ds sold, the failure rate seems to be about the same as usual with CPUs, except on ASRock boards which had major problems, and now have some lingering problems after BIOS/AGESA updates.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
That seems to be the the consensus. Ill grab an msi mobo at micro along with my 9800
Glinrise@reddit
My 9800x3d runs on MSI X870 Tomahawk👌
CpuPusher@reddit
MSI B650 tomahawk user here with 9800x3d, I've been using mine for 9 months steady and have no issues. Not that it is the best of any other company like gigabyte or asus, nzxt. But it sure beats the other ones that have issues.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
Do you use any overclocking, xmp or expo?
CpuPusher@reddit
Yes I do.
TemperatureFlimsy973@reddit (OP)
Ok cool, theres so much fear mongering over this cpu I was worried
CpuPusher@reddit
The 9800x3d is a great chip. Previously, I had the 5800x3d, which was good also when released. I then waited for 9800x3d. This one I will stay with for a few more years.
Real-Tyger7@reddit
Anyone not from asRock
darkdeus@reddit
Zero issues with my Gigabyte
terriblestperson@reddit
Almost no reports of B650 boards from any vendor killing 9800x3ds.
CAB-HH73@reddit
Not true. Asrock B650 boards have killed some.
terriblestperson@reddit
Not very many. Given how popular b650 boards were, if they were killing them at the same rate as the newer generation of board you'd see a lot more posts.
Schnitzel725@reddit
Got an aorus elite x870e, its been working fine for months
ArakiUwU@reddit
Also went with this MoB and have been ok for almost half a year now.
That being said, does the LED lights on your MoB bug out or flicker? Usually they stay on for a good few hours even when the machine is turned off and when booted up, they're either static blue or flashing random colours, no option to control them with RGB software.
Schnitzel725@reddit
If you mean the lighting in the bottom right corner, it was static blue when i first booted it. i have it turned off in bios
nuhverguy@reddit
I have a Asus b650 plus WiFi and the 9800x3d since around launch with zero issues.
Extreme996@reddit
I have MSI B650 Gaming Plus and 9800X3D and it works great no problems so far.
PsychologicalGlass47@reddit
I live and die by ASUS. Their bad boards are HORRENDOUS, but their good boards are top-of-the-line. My B860M-AX has been crispy straight from the box and hasn't shown a single problem with some tight DRAM timings. Still messing around with overclock features, but it's a very simple undervolt if you're one to do that.
fiftybucks@reddit
Gigabyte x870e pro, no issues
CL4P-L3K@reddit
Zero problems with the Asus X670E Crosshair Hero. Easiest mobile I’ve had.
JcfSounds@reddit
I got a gigabyte and have had zero issues
ggstocks87@reddit
Not a bad idea to make sure the BIOS is updated too
Hyp3rnova4124@reddit
Personally I use the Asus prime x870 for my 9800X3D, no problems so far, I’ve had it for around a month