Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard Uncovers 'Treasonous Conspiracy' Within Obama Administration, Releases Bombshell Documents. The administration of former President Barack Obama was, in fact, a "treasonous" bunch that had it in for President Donald Trump.
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Relevant_World_32@reddit
She’s an idiot
neph36@reddit
Its treason for Obama's FBI to investigate foreign interference in our elections (which even the GOP led committee agreed happened) but its not treason for a sitting DNI to accuse Obama of treason and publicly call for his indictment?
I feel like she is just trolling. Its ragebait, the irony here is beyond off the charts, to the point of parody.
hughmanBing@reddit
She looks nervous and afraid up there for propelling these lies. She should be.
hughmanBing@reddit
She looks nervous. Like these lies, this deflection aren't sitting with her right. She should be nervous.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
Wow this definitely made me forget about the Epstein files! Thanks Tulsi!
raging-peanuts@reddit
You mean those Epstein files? The ones were Donald Trump is implicated in child rape?
PubliclyDisturbed@reddit
This is bullshit smoke and mirrors from grifter Tulsi to cover for Trump. Obama publicly stated in Dec 2016 that “we’re not going to relitigate the election” and that there is no evidence that DJT or the Trump campaign played any role in Russia’s activities in influencing our 2016 election process.
In addition, in the time between the election and when Obama left office, he consistently asked the American people to accept DJT’s victory in the election, called for unity, and said that we are not all Dems or Reps, we are Americans and this is our process.
Now contrast that with Trumps behavior and actions after he lost the election to Biden in 2020.
The docs Tulsj released are about cyber security and whether voting machines were hacked. Dems never claimed the machines were hacked - what they claimed was that the DNC was hacked by Russia to benefit Trump campaign, and this is TRUE. That IS “Russian interference”
She’s spreading misinformation and advocating for locking up a former administration over nothing.
WashedMasses@reddit
Intelligence was manipulated to create their desired narrative post-election. They then rode that wave for 3+ years in order to discredit and wrench the "rogue" administration. Feverish attempts to hand wave these findings by the DNI is simply continuing the attempt to discredit and minimize the impact and influence of the Trump administration.
late_warmonger@reddit
The IC encountered a candidate with a ton of actual connections to Russia since the 80's. This, in addition to bizarre actions and requests by Trump and kids during the campaign led to appropriate investigations and actual findings and convictions.
Was it all perfect? no. That type of unprecedented investigation was messy and sensitive as the IC walked thin lines investigating a candidate. Was is needed? Yes. We can't have leaders who are compromised in this manner.
The only coup attempt in modern history was Trump in 2020.
Tulsi is insane for going along with this.
PubliclyDisturbed@reddit
Sorry, your false idol Donald Trump was BFF’s with pedo Epstein and is a pedo himself. We’ve been saying this for years - now you gotta face the music. Have fun defending your pedophile.
Ben2St1d_5022@reddit
Oh ok, so evidence isn’t accepted if it’s against Obama or the Dems but rather propaganda and fake bs is if it’s against Trump?
Mass Form Psychosis at its best people 👆🏻
PubliclyDisturbed@reddit
No. You entirely missed my point - probably intentionally.
QuayleAndCarnage@reddit
You can't win with these people, brotha
Premodonna@reddit
This is to deflect the movement to join the rank of the Guardians Of Pedophiles and get into Trumps good graces again.
974080@reddit
This coming from the President who weaponized the IRS to go after tea party members. That once pushed the story of the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico ( Deepwater Horizon Spill in 2010), until BP paid a fine of 20.8 billion dollars in an Obama controlled fund, then the story disappeared. The President who started pushing the Affordable Care Act and ruined most of Americans healthcare.
Nothing would surprise me from Obama.
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
🥱
Where are the Epstein files?
VetGranDude@reddit
Same place they were under Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden. Same place they were under the past 10 Congressional cycles. Both parties have been covering this up for 20 years. It has been a group effort. They are both unified by their desire to protect each other.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
OK that's all bad, but the question is why does the CURRENT president who CURRENTLY has the ability to release it, not do it, despite promising to?
VetGranDude@reddit
I don't know. Continuing the trend, I guess? I'm sure it's for the same reasons the past 4 administrations have covered it up. They probably saw what was in it, thought "oh shit everyone is in this", and then backtracked.
My guess is releasing the files would be absolutely devastating for both parties, and especially their financiers.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
I get your point but I just think the only way these things get released is if we make a big enough stink and replace people who are currently in power who don't do it. Biden for example, is a sick old man at this point with basically no power. He's basically irrelevant besides being an informative case in point. The only way to get this out is to make a stink and replace the people in power until finally someone says to hell with it and releases it. I know it's somewhat of a pipe dream but it's the only way.
VetGranDude@reddit
Oh I'm with you on that. I think you're just more hopeful than I am. I'm kind of wondering if Trump is actually telling the truth - that there's nothing in them anymore - although I'm getting a strong vibe that isn't the case. A lot of time has passed; plenty of time to scrub and destroy incriminating documents. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there's nothing notable left.
But...Trump's statements sure are suspect. His comments about the files being faked by Obama, Comey, and Biden sure lead me to believe there's something in them, including his name. We know they were friends for 15 years. But so was everyone else.
And then why haven't past Presidents/administrations revealed any of it? They could have selectively leaked info about Trump in the documents. My guess is it would have opened Pandora's Box and they'd have trouble covering up the rest of it if anything were subpoenaed.
I don't know...there's so many theories out there and it's nearly impossible to decipher what it actually true. I also wonder if this was indeed an Israeli operation in coordination with the CIA, which would be a massive scandal and would likely end the spigot of money and weapons to Israel. Not to mention the damage it would do to the CIA. That would certainly explain the intelligence cover up.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
I'm not hopeful I'm just telling you what the optimal strategy is. I don't think it'll actually happen.
>I'm kind of wondering if Trump is actually telling the truth - that there's nothing in them anymore
So, let's be real. What the right wingers basically alleged, which is mostly false, is that there is some sort of mythical list somewhere with 100% ironclad evidence that specific people are pedophiles. Such a list doesn't exist. Trump cannot actually release it because it never existed, even though he promised to release it in the past. He was simply lying and telling people what they wanted to hear at that point.
>But...Trump's statements sure are suspect. His comments about the files being faked by Obama, Comey, and Biden sure lead me to believe there's something in them, including his name. We know they were friends for 15 years. But so was everyone else.
Now what does exist are the files, and surrounding evidence. Trump is absolutely guilty and his name is absolutely in the files. He does not want anyone to ever think that, so he's creating this narrative so any info that comes out against him he can claim it's a "hoax" and fake. Simple as that.
>And then why haven't past Presidents/administrations revealed any of it? They could have selectively leaked info about Trump in the documents. My guess is it would have opened Pandora's Box and they'd have trouble covering up the rest of it if anything were subpoenaed.
Ultimately Biden and Merrick Garland are "process" guys. They never would have done things purely to embarrass Trump, it always had to be "by the book." The book says you prosecute people and don't put evidence out until you're done. Garland was a Republican and the whole point of his appointment was to "heal this nation" by having "unity" and moving on from the Trump era.
It was during the Biden admin that Maxwell was prosecuted and convicted. But Biden or even Garland didn't directly touch that.
Again if you're going by the book you shouldn't release the files. It should all be handled by independent prosecutors and only much later would any evidence come out, after you've convicted everyone involved or at least tried to.
The problem now is we are all obviously skeptic that they ever would try to do that (either party) so we just want the files out in public so at the very least we can draw our own conclusions.
However the ironic thing is, I don't think Trump supporters would be convinced even if they found everything in the Epstein files connected to Trump. Why, cause a lot of it already did come out one way or another and they are masters of spinning it and giving excuses. If Trump didn't act so guilty about it by stopping their release they'd probably look the other way.
This gets back to my original point, there is no ironclad list. It's just a bunch of evidence that someone can choose to excuse whoever's name appears by claiming they were an innocent bystander or like Trump supporters say, they were friends until they saw child trafficking, then they stopped being friends. We swear.
VetGranDude@reddit
Yeah, I get what you're saying and tend to agree with most of it...Trump probably was lying to get votes. I'd bet on that. And yes, he's in the flight logs for sure...but so are a lot of people like Bill Gates. That doesn't necessarily mean they were diddling children (doesn't mean they weren't either).
I am not by any means an expert on the history of Epstein and the cover up. From my limited understanding, Epstein flew a lot of folks around to various locations, including the infamous 'island', but apparently many of the flights and associations with Epstein comprised of a lot of "shmoozing" to gain powerful connections. Epstein was a wealthy connected guy and a lot of people wanted to be around him for that reason alone. Lots of those people were in the "black books", but I don't think every name in those books were diddling children on the island (I could be wrong). It's easy for people to dismiss the connections because there were so many others also connected to Epstein who all claim the same things, some of which probably weren't being scumbags (? maybe).
But you are absolutely spot-on...he's acting awfully guilty, and that's what raises my alarm bells too. The very words he's using make me cringe. But still...there's no solid evidence to see so far, so supporters will easily dismiss it. And TBH it does cast reasonable doubt. But i you forced me to bet money, I'd put my money on Trump being disgusting with Epstein many times.
I have a little more faith in Trump supporters, mainly because I'm in a lot of the conservative subs and I've seen how pissed they've been about this whole Epstein debacle. Of course Reddit isn't really representative of the populace so it's hard to tell, but I think if someone produced actual evidence they'd revolt. They pretty much already have, particularly a lot of the big conservative voices such as Matt Walsh and Megyn Kelly. It's pretty bad for Trump, which is why he's scrambling and attempting to appease his base (badly). I don't think conservatives would make excuses at all. Correction - there would be some holdouts, but I think most of conservative land would be freaking disgusted to say the least. But it's going to take some hard evidence to do that. Right now it's just "yeah, it seems bad but there's no proof."
I think many conservatives know Trump is slimy. Most voted for him based on policy, not personality. They're willing to look past his sliminess as long as he governs like he promised. This Epstein backtracking is backfiring...it's making a whole lot of Trumpsters think and ask questions. I don't think they all believe he's 100% innocent anymore, even if they won't admit it to Democrats. Deep down they know none of this is a good look.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
>Yeah, I get what you're saying and tend to agree with most of it...Trump probably was lying to get votes. I'd bet on that. And yes, he's in the flight logs for sure...but so are a lot of people like Bill Gates. That doesn't necessarily mean they were diddling children (doesn't mean they weren't either).
So let's break this down. First point is, there is no "definitive" list. The only way you can compile a list is like, your name is mentioned and it's suspicious. Trump is definitely on that list, and so is Gates. Is it ironclad proof, maybe not... but the point is Trump is in the files and for sure that is one reason why he doesn't want it released.
The reason I think Trump is guilty though, is not just because he's in the flight logs or in Epstein's black book. I mean, those are huge pieces of evidence but it's not all of it. His birthday card, his comments about Epstein liking young women, his history of barging into underage girls' dressing rooms, the accusations filed in court from underage girls against him, the fact he wrote in his book that he got calls from "the mysterious Jeffrey," promoting Acosta who had the "sweetheart deal" with Epstein, I mean .... there is just way too much. Add that how obviously freaked out he is by the release of the files, and there's an obvious conclusion to draw.
>But still...there's no solid evidence to see so far, so supporters will easily dismiss it.
That's my point tho, is there any evidence in the Epstein files that is ironclad? I obviously don't know but I doubt it. I mean if the information we know already isn't enough for people to turn on Trump, it makes me wonder... what would be? Video or audio could be AI from Obama or Comey or whatever, any document could be faked or misinterpreted. Oh, Epstein wrote he was a "client"? He meant a real estate client! Trust me. That sort of thing.
>This Epstein backtracking is backfiring...it's making a whole lot of Trumpsters think and ask questions. I don't think they all believe he's 100% innocent anymore, even if they won't admit it to Democrats. Deep down they know none of this is a good look.
Oh that I agree with that, he's calling people stupid for wanting to know what happened with Epstein and so directly insulting their intelligence you have to be, basically a full on zombie not to at least question what the hell is happening. But I'm pessimistic, I think as soon as they are given some spin, any spin, to hang onto, a large majority will.
974080@reddit
You do realize that most of Epstein's activities happened during Obama's administration? That the investigation on Epstein started under W. Bush's administration, and then 8 years of Epstein doing his worse.
DNA98PercentChimp@reddit
Stop with your linguistic diversions. Why are you protecting child rapists?
Everyone associated with Epstein and raping children should be punished.
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf
974080@reddit
Agreed, wrong is wrong, regardless of the perpetrators.
lsdrunning@reddit
“But I’m gonna focus on the guy who was president 9 years ago and not the guy who is currently in charge” - you
974080@reddit
You are right,that's when most of the crimes took place. Trump is having to clean up the mess. If Trump is in the files as a molester, then let him face charges, but if democrats are in those files, then I better hear outrage from other democrats. They need to clean house themselves.
90daysismytherapy@reddit
Dude, trump and Epstein were best buddies for decades.
There is video of them being chummy. They talk about each other glowingly in multiple different interviews. Epstein was a member at Trump’s club.
Trump wished her well, Ghislane Maxwell, on the eve of her sentencing for a conviction of sex trafficking girls.
Would you wish a pedo enabling sex trafficker good luck before their sentencing?
974080@reddit
Years ago Trump kicked Epstein out of his club because Trump said "he was a slimeball". Everyone wanted to have their picture taken with Trump before he bucked the establishment politicians.
watching_whatever@reddit
Tulsi is the best hope for a female US President. She posted clear evidence that Democrats used the Law for Political purposes. Facts for what really happened to Trump over years.
The NYT, Washington Post and other Democratic news sources were complicit. They must now ignore the evidence and the story as their policy.
Problem for them is, Adam S huff and others repeatedly lied about the Trump Hoax on National News. The evidence is there for DOJ action which if taken can no longer be ignored by the left wing media.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
First and foremost, there’s no one with a working brain who can’t see the timing of this. Trump is a pedophile, and the GOP needs a major distraction. This is one of them.
Now, while I can’t ignore your blind allegiance for a grifter who is protecting a pedophile, I do hold out hope that she will one day decide that her pride has taken enough of a beating and decides to actually speak the truth.
And so, Gabbard’s report gets taken apart because there’s very little actual evidence in it.
Oh, and there were four previous investigations - 2 during trump’s presidency, 1 that was a bipartisan report in 2020 led by a GOP controlled senate, and 1 report in 2023 released by John Durham, who was appointed by trump. So how did she uncover new evidence? She didn’t even indicate she studied any of those investigations. Hmmm…distraction.
Oh…and one more thing: there was a Republican senator from Florida - a member of the very same intelligence committee who conducted investigations - who signed off on reports. He must be in on the conspiracy, too, right? Guess who that senator was?
watching_whatever@reddit
The Democrats used the Law for Political Purposes. This is one of the reasons why Trump was supported through all the Democratic lies told by Congressional censored Adam Schiff (for example).
Charges might be around the corner for some Democrats in the not too distant future, perhaps for Adam Schiff. Time will tell.
Even many Democrats know in their hearts that illegal use of the law was used against Trump but they felt it was justified in order to win the elections and grab power.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
Trump lied about the money his father gave him, he lied about his bone spurs, lied about where his father was born, he lied about where Barack Obama was born, he lied to his first wife while sleeping with his second, lied to his second wife while sleeping with his third, and lied to his third wife while sleeping with a playmate and porn star, he lied about his fake university, his fake charity, and his fake net worth, he lied about helping clear rubble at Ground Zero, about his businesses, about his taxes, about the size of his inauguration crowd, about his "perfect" phone calls, about the hush money he paid, the sexual abuse he committed, the classified documents he stole, the insurrection he incited, and the election he lost. But sure — he's telling the truth about Epstein. You’re in a cult. You’re protecting pedophiles because you don’t want all the files released.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
Holy smokes that reads like a Newsmax piece. Tin hats and all.
watching_whatever@reddit
Be informed that Trump banned Epstein from his hotel, never flew on his plane or visited his island. The same can’t be said about Bill Clinton so be careful what you wish for.
Censoring Schiff by Congress was a start. Firing the FBI lying agents who signed the document was a good step. Time will tell if the Justice Department takes action against at least some of the Democrats who used the Law for Political Purposes.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
Trump lied about the money his father gave him, he lied about his bone spurs, lied about where his father was born, he lied about where Barack Obama was born, he lied to his first wife while sleeping with his second, lied to his second wife while sleeping with his third, and lied to his third wife while sleeping with a playmate and porn star, he lied about his fake university, his fake charity, and his fake net worth, he lied about helping clear rubble at Ground Zero, about his businesses, about his taxes, about the size of his inauguration crowd, about his "perfect" phone calls, about the hush money he paid, the sexual abuse he committed, the classified documents he stole, the insurrection he incited, and the election he lost.
But sure — he's telling the truth about Epstein. You’re in a cult. You’re protecting pedophiles because you don’t want all the files released.
CalRipkenForCommish@reddit
If Clinton is a pedophile, I’ll be first in line to call for his arrest. Let’s see the files, don’t you agree?
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
Gotta give the red base some red meat about Obama and Hillary's emails, anything to distract from Epstein. Thanks Tulsi, I forgot about Epstein now!
Hoonin_Kyoma@reddit
Sooooooo disappointed. She could have been so much more.
riftwave77@reddit
No. She's always been this way and some of us were shouting it YEARS ago. The real disappointment is why so many of you are too soft brained to process information that conflicts with your emotional world view.
watching_whatever@reddit
My guess is some crimes were in fact done by Obama’s team against Trump and highly likely by Adam Schiff who told repeated outright lies on National television about Russia-gate.
Whether or not they were liable statements, minor or major felonies or worse is up to the lawyers at the Justice Department to decide and properly prosecute but only of necessary.
They not going to tell anybody what they are doing so we will never know what is going on.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
Even if Obama committed crimes, Trump and his SCOTUS made it so that presidents are completely immune from all prosecution. We tried to tell you this was a bad thing when it happened but yall didnt listen. Now we're here and it's a president you don't like that you want to allege things about, but guess what, yall made him immune.
watching_whatever@reddit
Obama has team members who maybe charged, or not. Time will tell.
Electronic_Mango1@reddit
Really? And that is a satisfying answer to you?
Do you really in your heart of hearts agree with Trump that all presidents should be immune and above the law forever?
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
Tulsi once again is the best, smartest person in a "leader" position. I don't get the push back. Obama is an egomaniac, pompous scumbag. Trump, Bush, Clinton, Obama and Biden are the same.
Kaszos@reddit
And yet she’s gladly shilling for Trump and war?
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
Shilling? lol, ok. Guess you don't understand how scummy our political landscape is and always has been. Any cabinet member of any administration would have said the same and probably much worse about it. You don't do what the Israeli Zionist Nazis Pigs want, you're fired immediately, maybe worse. It sucks. I guarantee you off the record, she would say the complete opposite.
Kaszos@reddit
So Tulsi can’t help it?
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
Help what? If she wants to keep her job, absolutely not.
Kaszos@reddit
So is this where she leaves her principals? As for years she railed at other office holders for similar actions? Not once was it about their jobs.
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
Yes, that's closer to how it is. Nothing to do with her, though. Re-read what I said. You are forced to say things you are against.
Kaszos@reddit
Yep she gets a pass on being a shill. Thanks for that.
17_Bob_Trey_O@reddit
Yes! You don't get it.
Cranberry_Jawbone@reddit
Doesn't matter now. Presidents cannot be prosecuted for crimes that were committed in office so long as they can say it was a presidential act and not a personal action. Thanks conservative supreme court.
lsdrunning@reddit
Can anyone really unironically defend Tulsi as a professional at this point?
She is so clearly a grift queen
PlayerNozick@reddit
You mean like how Elon said there was “fraud and waste” and yet not one individual was ever convicted or charged by Bondi for said fraud and waste?
TorchKing101@reddit
https://www.thedailybeast.com/democratic-senator-mark-warner-deflates-tulsi-gabbards-obama-coup-claims-in-two-words/
8072t34506@reddit
Doesn't count, he forgot to say "I'm rubber and you're glue"
TlkShowHost@reddit
RIP Tulsi’s political career
DavidLegba@reddit
🍆🍆🍆
Baronfluffly@reddit
😋😋😋