All this stuff about Roy Jay being a demon or not real, how utterly ridiculous is it?
Posted by Greengrass7772@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 55 comments
When I was a boy I remember Roy Jay, I remember him on the Monkhouse show and Pebble Mill, I thought he was hilarious and copied his movements (as he said, “you’ll all be doing it tomorrow”), and in fact I’ve been a member on Facebook of the “Roy Jay appreciation group” for a good few years.
There’s a fair few clips of him on YouTube, I’ve enjoyed rewatching and laughing along with the audience.
And then the comments started on those videos, “he wasn’t real”, “it was early AI”, “he was a demon who disappeared”
I mean, how stupid do you have to be to say Roy wasn’t real? How on earth do people actually believe the guff that he was a demon?
If this is the way society is heading then count me out.
Itchy_Slice_2620@reddit
man i’m not saying he’s a demon and i know comedy is subjective but how in the hell are you watching roy jay and laughing, not even laughing how are you even chuckling at his acts
ataridc@reddit
Well one we are decades removed from context and if you're not uk you're even further removed from the culture of that time and place. Two, some people just like the social experience of going and watching an act. Theres plenty of more popular comedians I could ask the same question about. Three, that's kind of the point. He was a flash in a pan and then vanished. Likely what made it that much easier for the world to forget he existed.
Itchy_Slice_2620@reddit
it just leaves me uncomfortable and uneasy
F0tAlbert@reddit
Why would people believe you😭 if this is a demon that can write itself into history, why would it not be able to make a random Reddit post saying it’s ridiculous that it is😭
cgknight1@reddit
I am the right age to remember him but even after goggling him I am entirely blank.
I suspect the demon comments are not serious.
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Have a look on YouTube and you’ll see quite a few clips of him, his appearance on the Monkhouse show is on there, and it’s still hilarious.
And I’m the other way, I suspect the clowns who say he’s a demon really believe it, they’re like the moronic QAnon bunch.
Zestyychimpyy@reddit
I dont believe the demon things either but Roy Jay is so horrible at comedy it all looks uncomfortable and forced
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Rubbish, he was one of the best comedians of his time, millions of us tuned in to see him.
You-are-so-lovely@reddit
I know this is a month old but I need to point out that when Roy was on telly there was only 4 or 5 channels available everybody would be watching the same thing because they didn't really have a choice. I dont think Roy's act would be near as popular these days.
(Saying that I did laugh watching some old clips of his something about the way he commits to the bit despite how awkward it is makes it work for me)
Norathaexplorer@reddit
Both of those groups are from 4chan, so yes
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Yes, they are all as thick as mince.
Roy was a very funny bloke, a shame he didn’t get the fame he deserved.
plugs_memesv2@reddit
the demon comments stemmed from the fact there was apparently nothing about him anywhere and all the sudden hes all over google and youtube so people made some crazy nonsensical theory he's a demon who wrote himself into history 😭
SuboptimalOutcome@reddit
It's preposterous in the 21st century to say he was a demon, he was clearly a djinn.
sparklybeast@reddit
I also have no memory of him whatsoever and really should, being in my late 40s. Odd,
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Hey slither man.
TheDayvanCowboy_@reddit
SPOOK
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Hey weirdo.
Vinluv0Handesbuk@reddit
Slither
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Hey man unrelaxed.
tdrules@reddit
Everyone I knew growing up was convinced the Frosties kid killed himself by putting pencils up his nose and head butting a table.
Let people enjoys things
TheGreatCornholeo@reddit
I guess the Frosties kid became Jeffy.
FloydEGag@reddit
I thought that was the Milky Bar Kid! Thanks for RUINING my childhood memories smh
DoctorWhofan789eywim@reddit
I always thought the Milky Bar Kid grew up to be a charitable donater of lingerie, so he could say:
The silky bras are on me!
Intrepid-Patient574@reddit
Why the fuck did this make me laugh so much?
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
I heard the Jolly Green Giant died by breathing in too many green paint fumes.
WoodyManic@reddit
It's beyond ridiculous. I think at least some of it comes from how little Americans understand British humour. I mean, even an act as innocuous as the Chuckle Brothers would seem dauntingly strange to our American cousins. And George Formby would blow their minds entirely.
genericmediocrename@reddit
I'm a 29 year old American who only got here from Googling Roy Jay. Admittedly I am both flabbergasted and kind of mystified by not only Roy Jay, but the audience who laugh at jokes that I can't entirely tell are jokes? It almost has this disquieting, subtle feeling of horror, like that feeling that something is off and everyone understands it except for you. I obviously don't think he's an AI or a demon, but sitting through a few performances of his on YouTube in a row certainly did make me feel oddly uneasy, so I guess I can see how someone especially online brain rotted might convince themselves of something more sinister.
On not understanding British comedy, I'm not sure what to think about that. There are modern TV comedies from the UK that I can easily find the humor in (Peep Show S4E5 will always hold a special place in my heart), but this style of comedy from this period, I'll absolutely agree, is completely alien from basically any frame of reference I have.
WoodyManic@reddit
See, one of the things that I think is important to remember is that British comedy held onto the strange and off-kilter trappings of the Music Hall tradition- what Americans would call vaudeville- for quite a long time.
Whereas, in the States, a lot of performers shunted into the purely musical aspect of the tradition and eventually gave way to the Gene Kelly-Judy Garland tradition, a great many British acts leaned into the more comedic, sometimes bawdy aspects.
There was an understanding, coated in typical British irony, that the comedian/ act had a sort of angle, that they were using a persona as part of the performance.
Even when it'd shifted from theatres onto the television, there existed this remnant of the previous era's craft. It was exaggerated, a little bizarre, and every now and again there would be this "wink" to the audience, like when Roy speaks in his natural, Northern accent, that made the crowd feel all that bit more included in the artifice of it.
Does that make sense?
Roy Jay is weird, even to modern tastes, but at the time, he was just another neo-Music Hall act from a long lineage, clinging on with his finger nails to the last wave of a phenomenon that was already a century and some old.
I guess a close modern equivalent in the US would be somebody like Emo Philips. He has more in common with the Borscht Belt comics, but he had a style and a voice that was part of his schtick that the audience was all too aware was a component of his act.
Emo was a good few miles away from Vaudeville, unlike the Marx Brothers who oozed it, but he had the same kind of approach, albeit with mind-bending jokes.
genericmediocrename@reddit
That's really interesting, thank you for such a thoughtful and insightful reply!
WoodyManic@reddit
You're welcome. I hope it doesn't sound like gobbledegook.
Any-Ad-8793@reddit
I don’t think people actually think he’s a demon, but it might be a very interesting community project. Possibly a real person, but it’s peculiar how someone with barely any internet footprint suddenly gets so much attention and passionate defenders with little proof. Like 4channers are finding it fun to lie about him, and maybe there are some honest comments from people who actually remember him mixed in.
thehitcher2732@reddit
He most definitely was real but he was a perfect target for this kind of hoax, though I am sure there were many 1980s comedy. He was supposed to appear on a Smiths crisps ad but turned up drunk and was judged unfit to do it. The role went to Lenny Henry who performed a script very obviously intended for Roy Jay. That ad can be found online. So unless they went to the trouble of making an ai ad of Lenny Henry to back up a claim they didn't need to make in the first place, it's safe to say he was a real person.
Jubilex1@reddit
Lol it’s just for fun you silly
Thealphadingus@reddit
So I’m not from the UK, nor do I remember him in the slightest (never heard of him until people started talking about him)
My personal theory is that he was real, yes…however, he didn’t quite take off and was soon forgotten, until all this Roy Jay stuff started popping up - possibly due to people actually remembering the “Spook! Slither!” guy.
PowerApp101@reddit
Never heard of him.
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Look him up on YouTube, you’ll love him, he’s absolutely hilarious.
PowerApp101@reddit
"He died in Alicante in December 2007, alone and penniless, aged just fifty-nine. His funeral was paid for by money raised by his many friends and admirers in the local area."
Lordy. I was 15 in 1983 and I vaguely remember him. I'm amazed he had such long slots on prime time TV, like the Monkhouse one was 8 mins! Some of the jokes were so bad I didn't even get them. His slither routine was ok I guess, he just needed better material.
Aware-Line-7537@reddit
He actually died under mysterious circumstances in late 2008, as you can see in Robert Ross's book from 2020.
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
“I used to be schizophrenic but we’re both ok now”
PowerApp101@reddit
Yeah exactly.
Mr_Bumcrest@reddit
How drunk are you?
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Not very, only had a dozen tins.
Not a Roy Jay fan?
false_thr0waway@reddit
it’s 4chan lmao, they think everything is made up by the government to “manipulate” them
non-hyphenated_@reddit
My God, I'd forgotten all about him.
BeefyWaft@reddit
You’ll all be doing it tommorahh!
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
And we were, and the day after that.
I remember doing it at school, a girl came in the classroom and I quickly jumped backwards shouting “Spook”.
OldLondon@reddit
If anyone from that time was a demon I’d pick Phil Cool
Greengrass7772@reddit (OP)
Ah hell yeah, remember his Ronald Reagan morphing into an alien? Fascinating but chilling.
bangkokali@reddit
I remember seeing him on TV a couple of times and I do remember me and my brother doing the spook thing but then he just disappeared .
Last week I watched one of the You tube videos and I agree it is just a total load of shit .I have no idea why they picked on him as there must have been thousands of comedians who appeared on TV in that era but never made it so perhaps they are all demons 😄
greatdrams23@reddit
I saw him on TV with friends in the early 80s, we all laughed except one friend who became angry, saying, "don't laugh, he's not funny" and wouldn't let us watch him.
Desperate-Ad-5109@reddit
The “slither” guy?! He was a true one-off!
MrHotfootJackson@reddit
Human nature, innit. Easier to blame supernatural beings than face the truly grotesque and horrific side of humanity.
Christ, I wasn't even born and I feel bloody shamed by the absolute shitshow that passed for comedy in the early 80s.
MrHotfootJackson@reddit
Ta for the down vote! I was being tongue in cheek, but obviously Roy Jay is serious business! I can only apologise for such a hate crime.
Next you'll all be saying Duncan Norvelle was straight...
knight-under-stars@reddit
Millions, if not billions of people still believe in some omnipotent super being, people believe all kinds of stupid shit.
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