Throwback to Air Canada making a heart-stopping landing in Toronto amid heavy crosswinds, November 2023
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Comprehensive-Job369@reddit
Go around eh.
72corvids@reddit
Straight up. He shoulda just gotten it back in the air and tried for a second go.
Heat-one@reddit
I'm not a pilot but aren't there weight on wheel switches that automatically make a go around impossible? Or do all of the wheels need to be on the ground?
72corvids@reddit
This vid is a perfect answer to part of your question. As you can see, the main gear touch down and the spoilers open for just a second. As soon as a go-around (TOGA) is activated, the spoilers snap back down, full thrust is summoned and off you go. The "weight on wheels" is superseded by the TOGA command.
Also, I'm giving you back an upvote. All you did was ask a decent question!
canuck1988@reddit
You usually can still go around up until you have deployed the reversers. However, the reversers cannot be deployed on most aircraft until the aircraft is on the ground. That might be where you’re getting mixed up.
Dr__-__Beeper@reddit
He said hell no, I'm planting this shit
Educational-Coat-750@reddit
Togeh
Velvet_Llama@reddit
I hate you for this. But I hate myself more for laughing so hard at it.
dominantjean55@reddit
this got me good
n900_was_best@reddit
Makes the case for - Cockpit Smell Recorder
dutchy649@reddit
I guarantee you that a couple of pilots were incited to visit to the chief pilots office for some tea and crackers next morning.
CraigT420@reddit
Would love to have heard the CVR for that one
SkyHighExpress@reddit
There would be nothing.. just a very Very VERY taxi to the gate
Real_TomBrady@reddit
A very taxi?
scottwithonetee@reddit
Very very VERY
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
Remember. The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.
qkoexz@reddit
No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.
CowboyLaw@reddit
This is really about the fact that the landing should have been aborted.
mystykracer@reddit
Underrated comment!
Rainbwned@reddit
What about the brown zone?
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
They had to call Kenny Loggins after that one...
pryan37bb@reddit
That's how very it gets
LeonJones@reddit
how taxi of them
hr2pilot@reddit
Oooof….fuck
Tacitblue1973@reddit
That'll be an inspection.
DeltaNerd@reddit
I'm curious would pilots self report on hard landings? I assume all pilots would
skyboy510@reddit
They don’t even have to. The airplane already detected it and sent off an email.
DZombs@reddit
I deadheaded on this tail with my last company.. the day after this happened. Was a little unsettling.
HonkHonk@reddit
God bless that landing gear
Puravida1904@reddit
The door was locked until all the passengers left
jumbledsiren@reddit
is that a 777 or 787?
Automatic_Tea_2550@reddit
None of the above. It’s a triple seven.
HatinCheese@reddit
777, you can tell by the lack of chevrons on the engines
Audere1@reddit
You can tell because of the way it is
Real_TomBrady@reddit
Ahh ok, thank you
Breadedbutthole@reddit
Is that a regular thank you or a passive aggressive sarcastic thank you?
Real_TomBrady@reddit
Yes
Audere1@reddit
You’re welcome, in both senses
Breadedbutthole@reddit
🍡
PiperArrow@reddit
Neat!
jumbledsiren@reddit
Oh, that's very helpful. I thought all Boeing planes had it
Ficsit-Incorporated@reddit
Only 787s, 747-8s, and 737 Maxes have the shark tooth engine cowlings. No other aircraft, Boeing or Airbus, have something similar.
SidewalksNCycling39@reddit
And the triple-wheel main landing gear
tennissokk@reddit
777.
Jenny_Tulwartz@reddit
777
ivanvector@reddit
Question for the pros here: Pearson has two pairs of runways 90° to each other (6/24 and 15/33 L/R, plus 5/23). With crosswinds this high, how complicated would it have been to switch operations to a better orientation?
RobertABooey@reddit
As a 20 your spotter at Pearson, it’s not difficult to change, but there seems to be a lack of wanting to, unless it’s absolutely necessary
ledzepplin408@reddit
PRO for yyz in CFS “Anticipate landing 05/23 & 06L24R up to 30kt and 90 deg”
They really stick to it also, 15/33s don’t get used unless it’s noise departures or a must. I came in about an hour before this guy same night and it was hopefully something you had some recency on. Not extremely gusty but it was stiff. If a guy was in Indoc it would be a predictable outcome.
Difficult_Fish7286@reddit
Can someone explain what is happening at 00:15? It seems for a second that the plane was dropping faster as if there was no lift.
ZippyDan@reddit
How close did the left wing come to touching the ground? And if it had touched, how catastrophic would that landing have been?
Hitcher06@reddit
It would have been very very VERY taxi
Princ3Ch4rming@reddit
How close? Very.
How catastrophic? Very.
thebubno@reddit
Eh. It depends on how hard they hit the wing.
Here's an A320 performing a go around after scraping a wingtip on touchdown. It's not always catastrophic.
bitcoinhodler89@reddit
Check out the other crash landing this year in Toronto for an answer heh
MikeW226@reddit
Wait, is THAT why the flight attendant all wants us to wear seatbelts and junk while we're on the plane? Geesh. Dang seatbelts. haha. Wow, what a bouncy landing!
Velvet_Llama@reddit
Strong enough turbulence can also yeet you into the overhead.
easterncurrents@reddit
It appears the Captain may have some experience at YYT
confusedguy1212@reddit
Either bad luck or someone forgot to keep that aileron into the wind and glue that wheel down to the ground.
Vanguard100216@reddit
I saw this happen in person. Was working on a Luftansa on gate 178
interstellar-dust@reddit
Looks like it was too late for them to execute go around. They were doing fine until few seconds before touchdown.
Man_Behin_Da_Curtain@reddit
Never to late to go around
elstovveyy@reddit
Even after you’ve deployed the reversers?
Man_Behin_Da_Curtain@reddit
Watch the video, the moment they should have gone around was before reversers were deployed.
elstovveyy@reddit
I’ve watched it. I’m just disagreeing with your statement that “it’s never too late to go around”
Once the reversers have been deployed, it’s too late to go around.
Man_Behin_Da_Curtain@reddit
Corrections I meant the should have gone around because reverserers were not deployed
TogaPower@reddit
Sometimes it indeed is, and a go around can be the wrong decision.
A classic example is a bird strike on short final - doing a GA can exacerbate issues if the aircraft was already in a safe position to land.
A few feet off the ground and some wind shear is experienced? Going right back into that could be dangerous.
Aviation is much more nuanced than that line.
caughtinthought@reddit
thing was rocking like a boat in the high seas 20s before landing lol
Rilex1@reddit
it’s too late for a go around if you have your reversers deployed. not the case.
malcolmmonkey@reddit
It’s very rarely “too late” to go around. The aircraft is at flying speed with a tonne of runway left.
Interesting_Study998@reddit
Spilled my poutine!!
-malcolm-tucker@reddit
Merde!
alphagusta@reddit
If it werent for seatbelts there would have been some craniums having a physics experiement with the ceiling
NoiceAndToitt@reddit
Every stupid action has a disproportionate reaction?
CouchPotatoFamine@reddit
Jeeeezus that was hairier than Bigfoot's back.
that_dutch_dude@reddit
the airline paid for the whole suspention so i am going to use the whole suspention.
TornadoJesusChrist@reddit
Jesus lol
that_dutch_dude@reddit
jesus cant drive for shit.
Princ3Ch4rming@reddit
Average Ryanair experience
Trev0rDan5@reddit
lmao
Tysonviolin@reddit
Did something like that going into JFK once. Delta 767
Some-Air1274@reddit
Dear lord that must’ve been awful.
alexvonhumboldt@reddit
What was like inside the plane?
StableFull5349@reddit
Probably pretty smelly after that.
kyriosity-at-github@reddit
Yeah, "cross-winds", up to 0,20%-0,30%, as the staggering wheel suggests.
psunavy03@reddit
Someone apparently forgot the old saw that superior pilots use their superior judgment to avoid situations that force them to display their superior skills.