If you could change one thing culturally about the UK / it's people, what would it be?
Posted by Training_Republic879@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 485 comments
Maybe work ethic or maybe politeness, is there something culturally that just bothers you that needs to change?
SJEastLon@reddit
I would change the way people look down on education and how it's uncool to work hard or be clever. The crab pot mentality of not wanting others to succeed.
Choccybizzle@reddit
‘No point in school, and why you wanna go Uni anyway? For some useless degree?’
A phrase I’ve heard variations of many times.
MiddleEnglishMaffler@reddit
While I will argue that one does not need to have a degree to earn a good living (I was in high school in 2005-2010 where going to uni was thrust repeatedly down the throats of the top class and the two beneath. We even did projects on how anyone could go. We were a disappointment and a crisis if we didn't want to get a degree.) I also hate that old British Working Class mentality of preferring to stay poor and uneducated and hating those with more money, instead of getting educated and rising up in the world to be as successful and "The Toffs".
There was a time before the turn of the century when working class people would kill for an education to get them out of poverty. Then the "Them and Us" attitude began to set in and education became a matter of "betraying your own kind."
Urgh. I'm from a working class background but that kind of attiude I think was fading on my grandparents. Luckily my parents did value education, whether it was apprenticeships or uni.
BrillsonHawk@reddit
It gets no better when you get to the workplace. People without degrees like to say how useless they are to everyone who will listen
idontthinkipeeenough@reddit
Low key though my degree has turned out to useless -
Gloomy-Flamingo-9791@reddit
I'm with you, I thought philosophy would be alright. Turns out it counts for shit when it comes to jobs
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
Philosophy is sought after and in many many jobs they don’t care what you studied they just want you to be a graduate. 80% of jobs in the City want ANY degree there are people with sociology, geography, and marine studies degrees working for accounting, legal and banking firms all over UK. The civil service, HM Forces, most uniformed services and becoming a pilot are great examples of ANY degree will do.
All of those are hiring huge numbers of people right now and would see philosophy as the study of ethics leading to management and business acumen having been studied in detail. HR would be a great example as would becoming a professional psychologist.
I almost can’t understand how you could think that degree would be useless. Half the leadership of the country studied it in some form!
Gloomy-Flamingo-9791@reddit
To be clear I am in a decent finance job in London. The degree doesn't help at all in job progression etc unless you have the specific degree they are after when applying I.e. economics.
My experience has been a degree helps you get a seat in the recruitment round of your first job, but really interview skills and reputation at work will get you progression. Noone cares if you have a degree once you are in the company and apply internally.
After you have that first work experience on your CV, recruiters are looking at compatible job experience.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
So yet again. You miss the point! You’re in a decent finance job and getting paid!!
That’s what the point is!
GCSEs show potential and help guide your A-level choices they also show future HE and employment your natural academic aptitude. No one cares if you got a 9 in Art and a 5 in maths but a 7 in physics and a 8 in history. They care you have 7x7s for a good red brick uni and 8x8s for Oxbridge. The second your Alevel results come out they only care that you sat 8 GCSEs or more.
A levels are only an entrance exam for professional training or uni. Once you go to uni no one cares anymore!
A degree is the same it shows that you are capable of being trained. That’s what you got.
Now if you want to go into the best jobs at the top level then you should have read economics or law or accountancy etc. The degree is the minimum entry the ACA, CAIA, CIMA, FRM is when you move up.
Economics is hard to get a place at uni and hard to do well in. So those graduates are of course rewarded for their excellence. You could have chosen economics and if you were mathematically minded enough to do it then that’s because they are more suited than you. That’s life! They don’t let anyone read medicine or law etc either you need the best grades because the material is hard and finding minds that can absorb it is hard so they get paid more!
You aren’t unemployed, you have chance and you can sit exams it will just take you a few years longer. But you have a job and are getting paid. Do you know how many people would cut a body part off to earn 1/4 what you likely earn!
So you think people go the whole way through school and FE or HE and then are exactly the arm ages as you choose to work stacking shelves or flipping burgers? Decided to clean loos or work in fields. Was heir life ambition to wait tables in their 40s and 50s?
I suspect you need some perspective as you have already achieved more than some people will in their entire lives and your complaining about your lot. Go travel somewhere poor I mean really poor and then wonder how your life would be if you’d been born there and reflect on your position in life because you are wealthier than 85% of the world already.
Last year half the population of planet earth lived on less than $6.85 and 648 million live in extreme poverty ie <$2.15 per diem. So ten times the population of UK have no expectations of making it to next week for lack of running water or food. No one cares what their IQ or ability is. No one will likely ever know. Even though statistically some of those children will have 180 IQs and could be capable of inventing the cure for cancer or the common cold. We don’t even know if they’ll live past 5!
And you think life’s a a little unfair to those who don’t have degrees in economics?
Gloomy-Flamingo-9791@reddit
Have I every said anything which you just waffled about? No!
All I've said is I don't think a degree has helped me further my career apart from getting my foot in the door of my first job. Everything else you have said is what you infered. So calm down and read it properly before you start climbing on your high horse.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
Yes I indeed it from your attitude. The fact that you can’t see what your degree has done for you is likely because of the same attitude. And your success if life now you’re a grown up is about meritocracy as well as luck, timing.
If the attitude you display in your response is a measure of you and your response to someone who has been around a bit and offers perspective is a reflection of your character then I can’t wait to see you set the world on fire. I suspect I shall be waiting longer than you expect.
I suggest you get some time in before you start prodding people of my ilk youngling. Use that energy to go get the promotion you seem to think you deserve but have done nothing to earn yet.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
Yes I indeed inferred it from your attitude. The fact that you can’t see what your degree has done for you is likely because of the same attitude. And your success in life now you’re a grown up is about meritocracy as well as luck, timing.
If the attitude you display in your response is a measure of you and your response to someone who has been around a bit and offers perspective is a reflection of your character then I can’t wait to see you set the world on fire. I suspect I shall be waiting longer than you expect.
I suggest you get some time in before you start prodding people of my ilk youngling. Use that energy to go get the promotion you seem to think you deserve but have done nothing to earn yet.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
So yet again. You miss the point! You’re in a decent finance job and getting paid!!
That’s what the point is!
GCSEs show potential and help guide your A-level choices they also show future HE and employment your natural academic aptitude. No one cares if you got a 9 in Art and a 5 in maths but a 7 in physics and a 8 in history. They care you have 7x7s for a good red brick uni and 8x8s for Oxbridge. The second your A-level results come out they only care that you sat 8 GCSEs or more.
A levels are only an entrance exam for professional training or uni. Once you go to uni no one cares anymore!
A degree is the same it shows that you are capable of being trained. That’s what you got.
Now if you want to go into the best jobs at the top level then you should have read economics or law or accountancy etc. The degree is the minimum entry the ACA, CAIA, CIMA, FRM is when you move up.
Economics is hard to get a place at uni and hard to do well in. So those graduates are of course rewarded for their excellence. You could have chosen economics and if you were mathematically minded enough to do it then that’s great because they are more suited for those roles statistically it doesn’t mean you can’t you just have to fight harder.
That’s life! They don’t let anyone read medicine or law etc either you need the best grades because the material is hard and finding minds that can absorb it is hard so they get paid more!
You aren’t unemployed, you have chance and you can sit exams it will just take you a few years longer. But you have a job and are getting paid. Do you know how many people would cut a body part off to earn 1/4 what you likely earn!
So you think people go the whole way through school and FE or HE and then are exactly the arm ages as you choose to work stacking shelves or flipping burgers? Decided to clean loos or work in fields. Was heir life ambition to wait tables in their 40s and 50s?
I suspect you need some perspective as you have already achieved more than some people will in their entire lives and your complaining about your lot. Go travel somewhere poor I mean really poor and then wonder how your life would be if you’d been born there and reflect on your position in life because you are wealthier than 85% of the world already.
Last year half the population of planet earth lived on less than $6.85 and 648 million live in extreme poverty ie <$2.15 per diem. So ten times the population of UK have no expectations of making it to next week for lack of running water or food. No one cares what their IQ or ability is. No one will likely ever know. Even though statistically some of those children will have 180 IQs and could be capable of inventing the cure for cancer or the common cold. We don’t even know if they’ll live past 5!
And you think life’s a a little unfair to those who don’t have degrees in economics. I’d argue life is a little harder for a great many more people than you?
NickEcommerce@reddit
I feel like part of the problem is the switch from polytechnics and apprenticeships (that provided a liveable wage). I did a marketing degree, and I could fit the entire 3 years into a 6 month course. There is no way I should have the same degree as my friends who studied engineering or mathematics or history.
A degree should be about either teaching you a rigorous and very detailed course load that prepares you to be an expert in your field after a few years of real-world experience, or it should prepare you to enter academia as a masters and then PhD student.
My degree got me past first round interviews, but a year or two working in a properly structured and accredited apprenticeship would have taught me just as much, without watering down the degrees of my friends who took more than 4 hours of lectures per week.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
If you think that university was just about learning and the piece of paper you missed some of the point. Graduates think, act and perform differently. Have had a lot do the silliness 18-21 yr olds bring to a workplace removed, have demonstrated numerous characteristics that are employable and needed for big boy and girl work and demonstrate an ability to absorb professional training in any field.
So yes of course the BEng course as an example is incredibly demanding in most unis and require many more hours work. But it encompasses a lot of vocational training like Law, medicine et al so that you can perform in a graduate role from the outset.
Just because they are harder doesn’t make yours worth less. Of course a degree in sociology is not the same as biochemistry or Civil engineering or medicine. Salaries of graduates who stick with that field are proof of that.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
If you think that university was just about learning and the piece of paper you missed some of the point. Graduates think, act and perform differently. They have had a lot of the silliness 18-21 yr olds bring to a workplace removed, have demonstrated numerous characteristics that are employable and needed for big boy and girl work and demonstrate an ability to absorb professional training in any field.
So yes of course the BEng course as an example is incredibly demanding in most unis and require many more hours work. But it encompasses a lot of vocational training like law, medicine et al so that you can perform in a graduate role from the outset.
Just because they are harder doesn’t make yours worth less. Of course a degree in sociology is not the same as biochemistry, neuroscience, cyber security, civil engineering or medicine. Salaries of graduates who stick within those fields are proof of that.
If you are a graduate mummy and daddy didn’t take you to school. You lived independently, paid bills, likely held a side job or so, whilst making friends in the wild. You weren’t force into groups as you all chose vastly differing fields of study, you played sports, took part in clubs or societies, turned up fed, clothed, washed yourself cooked for yourself fended for yourself. You did it in your own, you got up you went to the library you studied of your own back and you made deadlines and handed in complex prices of work having done research or conducting experiments. You used independent thought, made and defended arguments, parried and thought about contrary positions and then compared and contrasted them in writing in short and linger forms.
You also made mistakes, misjudge people, met different types of people from all backgrounds poor, wealthy, all ethnicities, all religions and all parts of the country and even world. You found limits you had never had, depths you didn’t know existed and expanded from being a person from town X into a citizen who understands their whole nation better. You also became a proper grown up ready to learn and contribute and be part of society.
If you think BA Literature, vs History vs Rocket Propulsion systems makes the difference you miss the point.
University is huge. If I ran an airline I would hire anyone who wasn’t a graduate for many many positions. I’m not unique.
If you’re finding your degree useless then you’re applying to the wrong jobs. That’s the same as trying to be in a relationship with someone who doesn’t want you. You are wanted and needed as a graduate. Look harder and further. If you have to go 5 hrs north or south to get a job then that’s what you do.
If you’re not prepared to do that then the reason you’re not finding work is because you don’t really want to pay the cost of getting it. I bet I could find you a job in under a month.
Choccybizzle@reddit
I’m sure for some it has, I’d say flunking out of school turns out worse for much more people though!
thorny_business@reddit
Not if you end up in the same job.
lemon-and-lies@reddit
This has made me feel somewhat better about my also useless degree
Choccybizzle@reddit
I said in a different comment, lots of jobs require you to have some sort of degree to get into it, so you have a step up on a lot of people for certain sectors.
PontiusThe-AV8Tor@reddit
If your degree is useless then you chose subject badly, or are applying to the wrong jobs. Having a degree is rarely useless in the long run. It will always give you something that that those who haven’t got don’t have.
If of course you decided to do a degree in underwater basket weaving. or Love Island studies then I have far less sympathy as you’ve wasted an opportunity to make yourself hugely employable and in rear your lifetime earnings.
StatisticianOwn9953@reddit
Always silly.
Often true. Unless you graduated back when it was rare and so basically guaranteed a good job, or you went to a prestigious university, or you have a very specialised degree, it's often the case that your degree is worthless.
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
Most graduates life time earnings are significantly higher than non graduates. It’s not a silver bullet but if you want a white collar role that pays 70k you need a degree
StatisticianOwn9953@reddit
Sure, but how much is this being skewed by baby boomers and gen X? Even the oldest millennials probably just about still experienced a graduate job market of the kind that elderly people imagine. Then there's the high amount of student debt graduates take these days. 'Not a silver bullet' is putting it mildly.
Inspectorghoulget@reddit
Yeah, education and growing as a person in an environment with people who are doing the same is a horrible thing to go through and everyone should avoid it at all costs and go to the University OV Lyf
Choccybizzle@reddit
Obviously it’s not a black and white issue, but having qualifications gives you options. A lot of (well paying) jobs require certain levels of education to get into, trivial degree or not it can help.
Euphoric_Raisin_312@reddit
I went to multiple good unis to get a masters and PhD in physics. It's proven useless, I've never been able to get a job that uses it.
_a_m_s_m@reddit
Don’t forget the notorious, ”Imagine all that debt from going to university!”.
barkley87@reddit
I know this does happen in British society but I've personally never experienced it - in fact I've only ever experiencedthe opposite. It makes me sad that other people dont get that privilege.
muddleagedspred@reddit
I'm a secondary school teacher in a predominantly white working class/tradesman area. I see this EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
Every parents' evening, a dad will say, "Well, I left school with no GCSEs, and I did alright." As his orange daughter, whose decibel level is higher than her IQ, smirks into her latest iPhone screen as she taps away with giant nails. Then they'll clamber into his van or into his wife's white Range Rover and disappear into the tax-dodging, Tommy Robinson worshipping ether.
TheSameYellow@reddit
Christ, the way you talk about your students, no wonder they don’t care about what you say. Even if you keep the words for Reddit the contempt must ooze out of you. What does a girl’s makeup and nails got to do with her intelligence?
muddleagedspred@reddit
I adore 95% of my students, and we have great rapport. Please, feel free to retrain and join our collective. We're crying out for teachers who haven't yet been worn down by bullshit.
barkley87@reddit
I went to a (state) grammar school. That's probably the difference.
NickEcommerce@reddit
It's probably quite unfashionable to say, but perhaps we need that stratification. Not by wealth of course, but by intelligence. We have too few tradesmen right now, and a glut of degree educated young people. Instead of pushing everyone into the degree holding category, we should probably be preparing people for what they are actually going to end up doing, and what society needs.
As a smart but poor person, it's a bit of a betrayal to even think about, but from a practical perspective it would be better for a society if we had people who were more appropriately trained for the job that they're suited to, rather than this cohort of unemployable (due to a glut of candidates) people and trades crying out for more people.
ExaminationFancy5641@reddit
Being a tradesman doesn't mean you cant go to university or value education thought. I believe quality trades people are produced by valuing education more. So many builders are just bad at business, quality control and the admin side of their company but get away with it Cos there are so few of them.
thorny_business@reddit
You want to spend those three years learning your trade not spinning wheels writing essays.
thorny_business@reddit
Kids go to parents evening now?
leoinclapham@reddit
Its not like this in London at all.
Hefty-Egg3406@reddit
This is why the ruling classes want us to hate immigrants, they might come to the UK and “change the culture”. Like instilling the idea of social mobility and being allowed to want better for yourself.
dynamico_@reddit
I know what you mean. Personally, I fee like we’re slowly getting away from that mindset a little. Things seem to be some what better than when I was younger
sc00022@reddit
Similarly, the obsession with social classes and looking down on anyone trying to better their lives / striving for social mobility
EverybodySayin@reddit
Which is hilarious cause the lowest classes always get the blame for the country's debts. "These bloody benerfitss cheats and immergrernts are takin all my tax money!!!" meanwhile the top 1% dodge paying millions in taxes and get away with it, and large company owners make billions and pay their employees peanuts.
Dick_Emery_Board@reddit
I'm working class and grew up in Hackney. Local public garden kids I grew up with called it turd mountain. The gentrification brigade came and cleaned it up. Social cleansing yes. Keep it like a shit hole no.
semicombobulated@reddit
This is what I was going to say. There’s a huge number of parents out there who tell their children that school is a waste of time, that they should ignore teachers, etc. These kids then go on to be disruptive in class and to bully the ones who are actually trying to learn. When the teachers try to discipline the kids, the parents take offence at this.
When these kids grow up, they have the attitude that they don’t need to try at anything or work hard. And inevitably they resent those — especially immigrants — who have been brought up with the attitude that education and hard work are important if you want to better yourself.
Rocinante23@reddit
Tall poppy syndrome
MiddleEnglishMaffler@reddit
It's more a change I would make in English people.
To have respect, interest and to value the importance of learning other languages and how it can open so many doors to careers, entertainment, history knowledge, travel and just bettering oneself by having more ways to learn and educate oneself.
I see people from Germany, Austria, etc who learn a second language from primary school age as a standard and I envy them. I listen to Tirolean radio and hear songs in German, English, Italian and Spanish as a standard and think "English radio won't even play Welsh songs- you have to tune into Radio Cymru for that. "
There was a time when we English valued speaking a second language as a sign of education and skill. Now it's only those who naturally find interest on it who manage to grasp it only starting at the age of 11 at the earliest. And most parents don't give a crap to support them. It's really sad.
tweaked9107@reddit
Drinking culture without a doubt. Every work event, every party, it all revolves around getting pissed.
I forget which comedian it was, but he's going on about how you go to a Piazza in Italy on a Friday night and there are families. Kids playing, parents having a glass of wine and a chat, work colleagues laughing a joke over one or two drinks. Here it's 8 pints as quick as possible, Sarah having a piss in the gutter and Dave smashing up a bus stop.
Fair_Effect4532@reddit
This! Tbh I cannot stand that every get-together has to revolve around alcohol, drinking, going to the pub etc. Like you guys have nothing else to do when meeting up? I refuse to do that and people always have to come for a BBQ or home cooking if they want to see us and we also don’t meet up to go and sit in a pub, we go for a walk. Would love to know where this obsession with alcohol comes from
tweaked9107@reddit
I remember reading that it started increasing around the 60's and 70's and just never really stopped. Not sure what the cause is, but I think half the problem is where else can you hang out as a group in the evening outside of a house? Pubs and bars are pretty much it.
In places like Italy people seem to eat a lot later and if they go out for dinner they spend a lot more time there - hang around after eating, nurse a glass of wine maybe. In France they have the cafe's that are open late etc. I don't that is all it is though. I remember being in Florence a few years ago in a Piazza where everyone was drinking, but they just seemed to be a bit tipsy. Everyone was having a good time, relaxed atmosphere, people dancing etc. No shouting, no fighting, no pissing in a gutter. Maybe us Brits just can't restrain ourselves.
Confuseduseroo@reddit
This is what I came here to say.
Look at what happens when the pubs and clubs are shut:
MixGroundbreaking622@reddit
Well... It's this surprising? Violent crime goes down when there is a nationwide lockdown and people aren't allowed outside... Shocker!
doctorace@reddit
Whenever you do an actual activity, everyone can’t wait to be done with it so we can finally go to the pub! which was all anyone wanted to do in the first place.
thorny_business@reddit
I wonder if the climate makes a difference. Our drinking culture emerged over centuries in which you'd work a long shift in a cotton mill then have to hammer as many pints as possible before the early closing time.
mutlipleshots@reddit
Reminds me when I was living in Amsterdam and they got so pissed off of Brits’ infamous drinking infused mayhem that they launched a campaign https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65107405.amp
I just moved to London and i ve never witnessed anything like that so far but I don’t go to clubs
tweaked9107@reddit
Amsterdam is known amongst a sub-section of young Brits for two things only - pot and prostitutes.
worriednoodles@reddit
SAY WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND
Able_Stated@reddit
Probably it's people and it's culture
Fair_Effect4532@reddit
Move out of the way and stop thinking you’re the only one around. When you’re crossing with your earpods in with no zebra crossing in sight stop taking the piss and try to say thank you and get off the road where you forced now everyone to stop. Decide which side of the pavement you want to be on and stick to it, maybe follow the ‘keep to the left’ rule? Stop littering and stop the gentle parenting and allowing your kid to leave their shit behind. Oh.. forgot I can only name 1🤣😅
Rude-Animator-9744@reddit
I would give people less ego and more critical thinking skills
Positive_Wiglet@reddit
Poisoned darts that it is legal to fire at people who drop litter.
GingerPrince72@reddit
That people could have drinks at the weekend without wanting to batter someone .
KazuyaM1sh1ma@reddit
Get rid of the baggy coat wearing youth who talk like dumbasses and think they're hard.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
I’ve never understood how saying ‘ting’ instead of ‘thing’ could possible benefit anyone. It’s like they know how to talk properly but refuse because it’s street init.
Tyst_Skog@reddit
The worst is the way they say ‘ask’. Ask rolls off of your tongue. It’s simple. It makes sense. How is changing it to ‘arks’ even a thing? Then trying to say it in the past tense….
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
What I find funniest is how most of these kids suddenly drop the fake accent when they reach 25 🤣
KazuyaM1sh1ma@reddit
I know. I was born in London but raised in Horsham and i don't talk like that. I physically cringe when i hear them talk like that.
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
It's everywhere in the south now.
You see someone being arrested in Norwich, their name's something like Kyle Smith, and they're all chill out bro in that stupid London accent.
Training_Republic879@reddit (OP)
Alot of it is the media, if there biggest influences speak like that they imitate it because they want to belong. Same way people dress the same as their favorite bands and stuff.
Lucky_Clerk_7909@reddit
Yeh but with this particular accent, the influences are (mostly) artists who promote getting rich by any means, including violence and killing people.
I'd rather not talk like those guys.
But the world is retarded so it happens.
Succotash-suffer@reddit
Is it ok to have that accent if you grew up in a huge council estate in London?
Andr0idUser@reddit
lol 😂 If I was incharge of Stop & Search the criteria would be TNF JACKETS, MANBAGS (DOPE SLING), BALACLAVAS & SNUDES.
fhs-james@reddit
It’s infected the whole country
KazuyaM1sh1ma@reddit
You say south but even people in the North have started acting like them too.
Training_Republic879@reddit (OP)
It's a mixture of dialect leveling and code switching I guess, it's all to do with subconsciously, or consciously, wanting to feel a sense of belonging to their environment. The same way that you'll speak more formally in a job interview
LongjumpingSkill2818@reddit
I see you got picked last in P.E.
KazuyaM1sh1ma@reddit
I did tbh
The_Blip@reddit
PE sucks anyway.
KazuyaM1sh1ma@reddit
Real
TrashbatLondon@reddit
The fetishisation of misery. The insistence on being utterly miserable and then insisting others should be forced to suffer the same. Living standards have absolutely tanked in the past ten years because absolutely cynical and miserable cunts have become the most valuable swing voters.
If I can’t have that, the the conflation of politeness and virtue. Absolute monsters are operating in positions of power and influence and nobody can see it because they wear a nice suite, speak well and know how to hold a knife and fork.
Tyst_Skog@reddit
All of this is 100% on the money. ✊🏽
thorny_business@reddit
This sums up our attitude to air conditioning.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87@reddit
I feel some of this goes back to WW2 propaganda to galvanize people during the bombing raids. The nation was taught to take pride in enduring suffering. The “We can take it” and “Come on Hitler, do your worst”messaging entered the national consciousness and now we almost take pride in putting up with shit. I can remember all through my childhood in the 90s hearing about the Blitz spirit and how the British people couldn’t be broken and blah blah. Even today we still see that meme about keeping quiet and carrying on. It’s become “the British way”. It’s almost a sin to be comfortable and happy and anyone who is isn’t being British enough.
Cognitiveshadow1@reddit
You people don’t half talk some amount of shite man.
This is one of the most miserable subreddits on the site and in no way reflective of the public at large in this country.
Hefty-Egg3406@reddit
I call the UK “misery island” because people seem to go out of their way to make it as miserable as possible. Like why keep voting for the austerity party who are giving the country nothing but lining their own pockets? Seems like masochism.
Also, it rains here (ok maybe not recently) but why not buy a proper raincoat and enjoy things… nope people want to sit in and complain that they can never go outside.
It’s wonderful doing things in the rain because it’s when all the people who would rather complain their entire lives than buy an appropriate coat are inside away from everyone else.
TrashbatLondon@reddit
The fetishisation of austerity is madness. The whole “government finances are not your household budget” thing seems to have been taken with huge offence here.
thatsquidgy1@reddit
Parental responsibility seems to have gone out the window. Id bring thst right back.
Andr0idUser@reddit
I'm not religious but I feel back in the 40's / 50's & 60's people where more socially conscious of how their family were perceived. Everyone wanted to put their best foot forward and I feel practicing religion instilled that in a lot of people. There's almost a lack of Shame these days. (I'm not saying Christianity is our saviour or that shaming people for not doing things right is correct but there is a correlation especially with anecdotes I've heard from my gran).
thatsquidgy1@reddit
Oh im all for the social pressure of shaming behaviours
sah-oo-chay@reddit
Shaming needs to come back.
Hefty-Egg3406@reddit
I go above and beyond to shame the utterly shameless.
This bizarre belief that has taken hold that we should be guided by our own individual happiness and we don’t owe anyone else anything or cannot expect anything from anyone else… like right… how exactly is society going to function while everyone is being a massively self-absorbed c*nt?
Lizzie-P@reddit
I’m so sick of the ‘me first’ mentality everyone seems to have now
Hefty-Egg3406@reddit
Wouldn’t want to do anything for anyone else because then they might take advantage!!!
I cannot cope with people claiming that being there for their friends is an “obligation”. Why do you even have friends that you don’t want to be there for? That’s the whole point, to be part of their lives.
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
Parents used to let the kid run out the house and free roam all day. Now they’re constantly involved.
The issue is an unwillingness to believe the truth, that their child is a little cunt.
Superb-Ad-8823@reddit
Some parents are treating their kids as little gods. Pampered beyond belief, as an example our niece kept her kids off school to get their nails done because they were going on holiday.
sah-oo-chay@reddit
I work with a guy who was telling me how this homeless guy supposedly just punched his 16 year son out of nowhere. The mum and dad then went hunting for said homeless guy to give him a kicking. I asked my colleague if he genuinely believed the homeless guy just lamped his balaclava wearing son out of nowhere or if he knew fine well his son was harassing the guy and he refused to accept there was any chance of that.
thatsquidgy1@reddit
Hence the no responsibility.
geordietaste@reddit
Stop the working population being trodden on by the rich, while also not having to prop up those people who, to quote Ned Flanders “those folks who don’t feel like working, bless ‘em”, while they end up with more benefit pay than those actually contributing to society
ArtisticAbroad5616@reddit
To be kinder.
To be kinder to each other, to others, to those who need help and those who don't. Kinder to nature and to animals and to the known and unknown.
Genre-Fluid@reddit
British people should be known as good eggs, kinder eggs perhaps.
Elegant-Instance5145@reddit
More respect for the environment you're in : pick up your rubbish.
richymac1976@reddit
I have seen 3 cars in the last 2 days just chucking rubbish out of their window. 2 taxis and a pickup. Why can’t people respect their environment
Round_Engineer8047@reddit
One of my neighbours in my tower invited me for a drink with him and his girlfriend not long after I moved in. Every time they finished a can or a bottle, they just tossed it out of the window. When I asked them not to do that, they looked at me as though I was insane and said "It's alright, someone will clear it up".
When I said we were lucky to have greenery around us as most social housing is a sea of concrete and their actions were damaging to the environment. they looked at each other in confusion. After that, a moth was flying around the room and the woman started shrieking and begging me to kill it before it stung her. I said moths don't sting and I don't kill them because they play a role in pollinating plants. Insect numbers are getting low and this affects the creatures who rely on them for food.
I told them they shouldn't even kill wasps, just catch them and release them. At this point they had clearly decided I was utterly unhinged. As the rest of their conversation was moronic, dull and frequently racist, I decided not to accept any further invitations.
They went around telling the other residents that I was 'stuck up'. Never try to reason with the unreasonable.
Creative-Prize6937@reddit
What ethnicity
Round_Engineer8047@reddit
Not sure to be honest. They're white but one is very ginger like a scrawny orangutan and the his missus is wall-eyed, has a face like a slab of raw mutton and a stench of rotting haddock about her.
I'm guessing there's some inbreeding at work.
I was warned about the wogs, the gyppos and the 'Stanis when I first moved in but so far it's been the Caucasians who've given me grief.
I'm trying to not be prejudiced but sometimes I fucking hate white people.
Elegant-Instance5145@reddit
Other countries (not all) are so much cleaner, bothers me so much. Fly tipping etc 😬
Sinister_Grape@reddit
Was recently in Barcelona and it was spotless ffs
Latter_Marzipan1831@reddit
That’s BS Barcelona stinks
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
Sorry what Barca were you in? Spain is covered in graffiti, there is trash everywhere as well. I’ve never seen as much graffiti tho as I have in Italy and Spain
nonsequitur__@reddit
Graffiti ≠ littering
HoraceorDoris@reddit
It does equal disrespect for your environment and others though🤷🏻♂️
microsnakey@reddit
Were your pockets also spotless after visiting?
betraying_fart2@reddit
The UK used to be a lot cleaner.
ArtisticAbroad5616@reddit
I'm from a tourist town in Scotland. The state of the place with all the English tourists is shocking. BBQ'S left smouldering on beaches, cheap bnm tents in the woods, bags of booze left over the place, rotten half eaten/uncooked food. And a tone of piss and shit just strewn about is awful.
poisedscooby@reddit
And this was all the fault of the visiting English?
ArtisticAbroad5616@reddit
Well you see, as much as Scotland may be behind the times I do have a flushing toilet and not the chemical ones I've seen been emptied into carparks. The accent gives it away and if it didn't it would be the big English flags over the vans?
poisedscooby@reddit
BS. How convenient that these people had flags on their vans.
ArtisticAbroad5616@reddit
Loads of folk have flags on vans/cars/caravans especially if they've been taken to certain countries abroad as is legal requirement
Wonderful-Plastic-44@reddit
such a bitter jock
betraying_fart2@reddit
And it's just the English is it?
ArtisticAbroad5616@reddit
I'm not deaf, I can hear the accents 🤣🤣
betraying_fart2@reddit
Did they sound like Gordon Ramsey?
yourlifeismine@reddit
Famously all of Scotlands tourists are exceptionally clean and would never leave a mess.
dl064@reddit
Edinburgh for you.
Lowermains@reddit
This is why we need a tourist tax, to pay for the cleanup. Had a neighbour who’d blatantly empty her car in the parking bays. 3 nights on the trot I picked it up put it in a carrier bag. Attached it to the window wipers. The last time with a note - “I’m watching you”. It stopped thereafter. Another neighbour had a couple of German shepherds she let them poo in our back garden. I went to her door at 7 am on a Sunday morning Informed her that the next shit I found would be posted through her letter box. 😇🙃.
If we all remain silent, this anti social behaviour becomes the norm.
BadMachine@reddit
nice work
Silent-Bug2922@reddit
Its mainly the foreign enclaves that are shit holes.
White British areas are generally very clean.
khornographic@reddit
Yeah, been to Spain, Sweden, Germany and Switzerland recently and the UK is covered in litter and chewing gum by comparison.
Jamesl1988@reddit
Went to Japan in March. It was immaculate, aside from Tokyo, but I guess that's because of all the tourists...
Lunchy_Bunsworth@reddit
Victor Meldrew had an idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z6g4kVV0hM /s
Prestigious-Garbage5@reddit
Growing up in the '50's and '60's I've seen such a change over the decades. It was drummed into us not to drop litter, considered a massive crime! With each decade you see more and more litter in the same areas. My local park, once a haven for kids to play, is now a meeting place for teenagers at night, and walking through it you see the evidence in the mornings. Carry-out food/drink containers littered everywhere (even though there are bins provided - one set on fire seen one morning). Evidence of needles used, and supermarket trolleys thrown in the river. Quite honestly I feel disgusted, and embarrassed when visitors from abroad see this. There are so many other countries that are a lot cleaner than us.
mirembe987@reddit
It didn’t used to be like this. I’m 28 and it wasn’t always as bad when I was little
01watts@reddit
It used to be really bad where I grew up in the mid-90s - dog turds everywhere and rifts of rubbish lining the edges of the pavement or bottoms of fences.
GoodboyJohnnyBoy@reddit
There was a big campaign in the sixties called Keep Britain Tidy there’s always been slobs not sure what the cure is and apparently shooting them is frowned upon.
mirembe987@reddit
Ah fair I suppose it depends where you lived
PsychologicalDrone@reddit
The other day I saw a guy throw a plastic bottle on the ground even though there was a bin literally 3m away in the direction he was travelling… it made me so angry, but I’m far too non-confrontational to say anything so I just frowned and walked away
Popular-History1015@reddit
I’ve confronted people 3 times, only once has it worked. One guy threatened to “smack me into the ground”. A young woman called me a pathetic loser. The third was the only win it was a drunk older guy whose sober mate managed to get him to pick it up and put it in the bin. For context he dropped it on the step of the apartment building I lived in which had a bin 7 feet away.
Littering boils my piss so much but it’s amazing how upset people get for being called out over it.
Safe_Commercial_2633@reddit
People just get upset over being called out for anything really. I've told people to pick up their rubbish quite a few times and never had anything negative. They tend to look ashamed. All depends on who you are and what you look like I think.
I'd tell off a 6'5 bodybuilder, and he'd probably do it. (I'm female, fairly young, tall myself and have an authoritative accent) but if a guy tried that it would be different. So pick your battles I suppose.
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
It’s not worth it mate. The guy may well have just punched you. You’re not speaking to a rational actor.
Chance-Albatross-211@reddit
My friend (braver than me) shouts, “Mate, you forgot this.” 🤣
Elegant-Instance5145@reddit
I'm really not sure where that mentality comes from - no responsibility to your surroundings and other people that share the space/road. It's like you would do that in your own house (who knows, maybe they do).
Confuseduseroo@reddit
We got so sick of the litter when we walked out of town during lockdown that we took orange bags with us and spent a day picking up recyclable bottles and cans. Some had been thrown out of car windows - or tossed by cyclists - without even being opened.
leoinclapham@reddit
I've seen it with people from all backgrounds. Some of it may be that they see cleaning up as something to be done by other more lowly people.
WitchyRedhead86@reddit
This attitude angers me so much. It’s disgusting. I was born in the mid 80s and I loathe littering. I will go out of my way not to litter and pick up other people’s rubbish. We have a collective responsibility to each other. Where and when did we lose that? I despair to be honest.
Unfair-Ad-9479@reddit
I’m lucky to be in a family who very much have the “the workers get paid to clean it up” mentality. When we’re out at restaurants and they leave the entire table a mess — glasses, bowls, serviettes, cutlery all over the place — it really makes me angry and is frankly just embarrassing. I will ALWAYS stay behind and passive aggressively clean up after them. 99% of the time the others around will see and sometimes thank me or compliment my good manners and custom.
A few months back, an older guy (maybe 60-70) even asked me if I wanted to join them for a drink afterwards, as a goodwill gesture, and then proceeded to lecture my parents when they wondered why I hadn’t yet left the building.
Boroboy72@reddit
I used to do late night weekend security in Bath city centre not that long ago. Mcdonald's was open all night. No exaggeration, every sat/sun morning, there was an ankle deep carpet of rubbish covering the entire width of the street that stretched for 20 to 30 yards up the road. It was beyond sickening. Drunk kids/students would be sitting on benches within arms length of bins but would just throw their food/wrappers/drinks on the floor. By around 5 a.m., there would be in the region of 30 seagulls squabbling over it all. Absolutely disgraceful.
Pleasant-Winner6311@reddit
💯 except I'm not sure if id like the draconian litter laws of Singapore, Thailand or mayalaisa. It be nice if caring was enough.
Used to be that you'd go to the beach and collect shells. Nowadays we go and collect plastic. Nice 👌
IShouldBeSoLucky81@reddit
There was rubbish from KFC dumped in my mum's garden the other day. The nearest KFC is an hour's drive away. Why not just put it in the bin if you have bought it all the way home?!?!
Proper_Instruction67@reddit
Not just the environment, but everything and everyone around you, including your neighbours, your family, pedestrians, cyclists, other drivers, customer service workers, immigrants, minorities, people with disabillities etc
VariousCrisps@reddit
totally agree 100000% but on the other hand visit somewhere like Vietnam and it’s a shock to see the uneducated and total disregard for the environment
Elegant-Instance5145@reddit
Oh yes, Vietnam, Philippines, Thailand (perhaps less so) can be bad in comparison. I guess I just liken the UK to the rest of Europe and it seems unclean in comparison. It's likely multifactorial, but if other countries nearby can achieve it, it feels like we should be able to as well. Scotland were debating a bottle deposit scheme at one point where you get a refund from buying the bottle (seems a thing in some countries), but sadly it wasn't approved.
VariousCrisps@reddit
We definitely still have a long way to go! Manchester is absolutely filthy
Rohobok@reddit
I watched as two teenage boys just brazenly chucked their rubbish over the grass at a kids park earlier. I was with my 4 year old and too far away to say anything (at least, in my head I would) but it boiled my blood. This has reminded me of it, so now I'm angry again ffs
Cinn4monSynonym@reddit
People are scum.
Important_March1933@reddit
This absolutely. People treat public areas like shit, just a total lack of respect for anything.
adymann@reddit
Yeah, keep Britain tidy mo' fos
Lolabunnytaulor@reddit
Oh and…
English people avoiding saying what they mean, talking around an issue and then being annoyed you didn’t understand what they actually meant.
This is an English speciality. Having lived in Scotland for a few years I can confirm people there are far more direct.
Lolabunnytaulor@reddit
Blame culture.
People bang on about “personal responsibility” but then immediately look for scapegoats.
It seems personal responsibility is for other people.
Try_at-your-own_Risk@reddit
The speaking in riddles I still don’t get when it’s happening.
Express_Profile_6084@reddit
Anti-business and playing it safe mentality.
I'd also add that everyone's idea of owning an asset is renting a home is infuriating
JBG0486@reddit
The americanisation of British food and diet.
Duschkopfe@reddit
Yes I believe the americanization is out of hand
Suspicious-Spring797@reddit
Delete roadmen and antisocial tendencies
Sltre101@reddit
The drinking culture is just pure cringe.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
It’s dying out now in recent generations
blob8543@reddit
One of the many reasons new generations deserve praise instead of the usual condescending comments from older people.
Succotash-suffer@reddit
All it took was the fear of being filmed and every person you’ve ever met seeing you in that state on social media.
dickbob124@reddit
Unfortunately it's being replaced with drug culture, so I wouldn't lay on too much praise. Not saying alcohol is better or worse than other drugs, but other drugs aren't problem free either.
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
It’s the regularity that’s an issue. I don’t give a fuck about the occasional bender at a stag do or a festival. Go nuts. It’s the consistency wi the which I’m expecting to get smashed.
Every Thursday to Sunday in London. We could have so much more fun by chilling out a bit!
Sltre101@reddit
Oh yeah by all means have a piss up every now and then, but it’s the culture of not being able to have a couple. The culture of needing to get pissed to enjoy something.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87@reddit
There are certain people I know (or have known) that if they’re out I sigh as soon as I see them, because I know that’s the end of a quiet night. Sometimes if I turn up after them (before I’ve got a drink), I’ll actually say “I’m not drinking tonight” as it’s the only way to get out of being subjected to a torrent of pressure to get hammered. As soon as I have just one beer, they take that as an opening, and try to get me drinking more. They will eventually buy shots for the table. The only way to avoid it is drink nothing at all, which is annoying as I’d quite like one or two pints to sip on slowly.
Imperial_nugget@reddit
Forbid you get non alcoholic beverages on a night out, may as well be pub jester.
North_South9112@reddit
Crabs in a bucket mentality, small poppy syndrome, whatever you’d call it. The attitude of if I can’t have it, why should someone else have it. And the cynicism that comes with it.
AstoundedMagician@reddit
Be less negative about cycling and cycle paths.
CabelloLufc@reddit
The general air of arrogance that seems to be around some Brits, generally the more "patriotic" of us.
TheDreadfulCurtain@reddit
I would like to see much more class solidarity amongst “the working class” and more empathy and understanding for difference, also better care for elderly people.
justwatchingsports@reddit
Pretending the food isn’t bad makes it significantly harder to improve
crimsonchinn39@reddit
honestly the attitude towards public transport, a lot of people (and MPs) just view it as something you get until you learn to drive
i-like-flying-high@reddit
There is a number of things I'd like to change, but main one is littering. It doesn't cost anything to find a bin or take your rubbish home and would make the whole country look so much better.
F_DOG_93@reddit
The blatant racism.
jonpenryn@reddit
I wish "we" were a bit less spineless more like the French really, Heavy tuting achieves nothing, getting out on the streets does.
NurseEquinox@reddit
The anti-intellectualism. The crowd who lapped up the “people have had enough of experts” talk.
Glueshooter68@reddit
Who, ironically, claim more knowledge,, with their 4 GCSEs, than people who have earned PhDs and Professorships after working at the highest level in their field for years and years. Usually because they've watched a youtube video or read something on sm.
NurseEquinox@reddit
Even education isn’t a guarantee. I know people who have had the same scientific education as me, who sat next to me during lectures about the importance of proper study selection, who now refute absolutely anything evidence based because it comes from “the elite”. And anything they don’t agree with is “demonic” because the devil aparantly has nothing better to do than put trans people in makeup adverts to “take our children”.
Thomasinarina@reddit
Just finished an Oxbridge PhD and can confirm I have friends from uni who are like this.
centzon400@reddit
I didn't think The Other Place™ awarded PhDs, just DPhils. Have things changed?
Glueshooter68@reddit
Only Dphils in Oxford.
Hefty-Egg3406@reddit
All of my friends are highly educated and they are absolutely also being manipulated by what they see on social media.
It’s cleverly designed to get to our human blind spots.
Glueshooter68@reddit
That's horrific.
Unacceptable_tragedy@reddit
This is sadly a global problem.
Quinlov@reddit
Yeah wtf I want to hear more from experts not less
acheron4711@reddit
I'd probably curb the binge-drinking a bit.... Think everyone is starting to really hate the whole brits-getting-hammered-and-being-awful thing we have going on
Enigma1984@reddit
Whatever the term is for that series of events that often happens, where something nice gets created for a community or a town (say a new playground or a piece of art or something) and then very quickly afterwards it gets graffitied or set on fire or stolen. I'd get rid of that.
doctorace@reddit
I believe you’re looking for “the tragedy of the commons”
Moppo_@reddit
Imagine not having that, and being able to have vending machines on every other street.
MultiMidden@reddit
Far too many people love the old 'kids have always done this sort of thing trope', I can actually remember growing up and witnessing the decline as a teenager.
Back in the 1970s and early 80s lots of corner shops or newsagents would have these little vending machines on the outside wall and you put in a 2/5/10p coin and you'd either get some bubblegum or small toy or something (you might see them inside a shop nowadays). You'd even find them on council estates, then gradually over the years during the mid-late 80s they started to disappear, by the 90s they were a thing of the past. Why did they disappear - they were broken into, they were vanadalised...
Enigma1984@reddit
Yeh or playgrounds for kids, water fountains, walls that just look clean and not covered in shite graffiti. People rightly criticise the councils and government for not providing facilities for communities but it's not easy for them when everything they make has to be able to stand up to wee arseholes who's only pleasure in life is destroying stuff that other people like.
PuerSalus@reddit
To be honest I'd be happy if it was just graffiti. I don't really care if urban structures get graffitied if they remain functional. Sure I don't want the kids playground to have a cock and balls sprayed on every surface but if every surface has a crappy tag I couldn't care less. Just don't break anything, so the kids can still play.
MultiMidden@reddit
'Ruining it for the rest of us' / 'That's why we can't have nice things'
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
Spent the summer with a charity digging a community garden as a teen. It last about a 10 days before it got roughed up.
Fando1234@reddit
So mad. Like what does someone get from just destroying something nice for their community.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
Bored teen and drunk adults will stuff like that for a laugh
Fando1234@reddit
I guess. But I've been bored as a teen and drunk as an adult and never felt the need to destroy these things.
Enigma1984@reddit
Absolute arsehole behaviour. I bet you and the people you work with put in a ton of effort, and I also bet that it made a significant improvement to the local area. But then because of absolute morons it just becomes a source of sadness to everyone that was involved and a local eyesore to boot.
Careful-Swimmer-2658@reddit
Followed by the usual people on the local Facebook group complaining that "the council don't do nuffink"
BeKind321@reddit
Easier to destroy than to create. Fortunately creators get remembered.
jar_jar_LYNX@reddit
This sort of behaviour essentially killed my friend
Fell in the water, someone went to get the life ring and found that it had been stolen
It does feel like a British thing. I live in Vancouver now and any time I see one of these "take a book leave a book" mini libraries I always think -This thing wouldn't last one week if it was in a small Britosh town, let alone a major city
Bose82@reddit
Cuntishness?
BadMachine@reddit
that’s the one
Crispy116@reddit
Enshitification
bigdi1ck@reddit
Not silently wallowing in depression
Sufficient-Star-1237@reddit
Less bigotry
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
Stop allowing politics to dominate absolutely fucking everything.
dw1ft@reddit
Honestly applies to lots of places outside the uk nowadays
Orox-1@reddit
The Oikophobia in modern British society.
Prodromodinverno1@reddit
Mainstream alcoholism, soft drinks and unhealthy takeaways and snacks addiction (rigorously littered in every street and public area)
Esausta@reddit
Politics.
SmugMiddleClarse@reddit
You don't need to be sarcastic all the time. It's OK to show real emotion.
It's also OK for someone to disagree with you. They're not being difficult. We are all co-existing together.
I'm a Brit who lived abroad most of my life. I moved back permanently last year and this is what I notice the most
refuse_collector@reddit
Gobbing on the floor, should be an instant 4 year prison sentence.
DarthKrataa@reddit
British exceptionalism, this idea that we are somehow one of the great powers.
I think it holds us back both politically and as a society.
teachbirds2fly@reddit
Lol I m opposite I d say people putting down and underplaying UK so much...
It depends how you define great power but... Former largest empire in history, shaping global politics, law, and culture globally. 6th-largest economy in the world with London as a major global financial centre. One of only two nuclear armed countries in Europe, 3rd largest aircraft carrier fleet in the world and permanent UN Security Council member. World-leading culture, media, sport, and education. Regularly in top 4 at Olympics. 1 in 6 albums sold globally are by British bands. Huge film, TV and book presence globally.
leggenda69@reddit
Surely being able to travel to almost any country in the world speaking not a word of any language other than English has to make the list?
And our education system isn’t half as bad as people like to make out.
Cwlcymro@reddit
Travelling the world without bothering to learn a word of any other language is a great example of the problem with the British superiority mentality
thorny_business@reddit
Are you supposed to spend three years learning a language for your two week holiday?
Cwlcymro@reddit
"not a word"
thorny_business@reddit
"uno beero por favor" is at least three words.
thorny_business@reddit
We basically invented the university system, have numerous of the world's best ones, a prestigious private school system, and we're doing well on the PISA now.
The_Blip@reddit
We're also great at engineering. Yes, we don't still have the same mass production capabilities or dominate several markets, but the top end technical stuff we're damn good at. Most F1 teams. Really strong aerospace electronics sector. Specialist steel production. Thriving international consultancy industry.
We just love putting ourselves down. We're not as 'great' as we once were, so now we're not great at all. Poppycock. We're not perfect, and we're stronger together with our international allies, but we're still pretty neat.
thorny_business@reddit
We are an exceptional country, and it holds us back to talk ourselves down and act like we're just another country that has to fall in line. I would struggle to name three countries that have contributed more to human civilisation.
Personal_Lab_484@reddit
We are one of the main characters of the planets story. Which is undeniable. But rather than realise how we could use it to improve the country we just behave like dicks.
I think at one point in mid 2000s the UK had the highest overall approval rating of any country. Which is mental looking back now and given our history. Wasted on pointless nationalism and stupidity.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
Yeah I hate this need to set the example even at the detriment of the country. Like why is an opinion or social media post suddenly a crime? It’s ridiculous.
Mork-of-Ork@reddit
Remove the drinking culture.
BrilliantTonight4880@reddit
The crab bucket mentality, tall poppy syndrome etc
Beginning-Poet-2991@reddit
I wish people would want to learn a second language.
JasonMantou@reddit
Such an advantage to have English as a native Language. I just envy it. We started learning it when we were toddlers and still strive to make it more native. However, with AI coming, I don't think it is very necessary to learn a second language anymore.
Beginning-Poet-2991@reddit
You don’t think it’s necessary to talk to people from different cultures anymore because of AI? 🙃
JasonMantou@reddit
No...no...you misunderstood. I think in a foreseeable future, people with different languages can exchange ideas in real time effortlessly with the help of AI. Knowing a second language is nice, but not that necessary anymore...
Beginning-Poet-2991@reddit
I wish I misunderstood. It’s nice when us humans can talk without technology.
Beginning-Poet-2991@reddit
Try thinking like a human!
ExaminationFancy5641@reddit
Little Englander mentality, the anti European mob. This feeling that we are special or better than the continent for some reason. It's such a source of bad behaviour abroad as well as recent poor political decisions.
jsm97@reddit
This is it for me too. Although I'm strong supporter of the EU, I've actually surprised Britain stayed a member for as long as we did.
There's just no desire here for political integration, European military and strategic autonomy from the US, little interest in free movement or the benefits of schengen, very little in the way of a pan-european identity and perhaps most fundamentally a lack of belief in the idea that Europe is stronger united than it is divided and that not just the economic benefits of European unity but also the social, cultural and political benefits all outweigh the cost of sovereignty.
Most Brits see Germany as an ally the way they see Japan as an ally - Nothing deeper. The EU was always seen as something the UK is submissive too rather than part of. It's such a stark difference to other European countries I've lived in where people talk at work about who they are voting for in the European parliment elections, talk about their Erusamus experiences, consider themselves to be EU citizens - Even just tiny little things like some of my French friends having "🇫🇷🇪🇺" next to their names in their Social Media bios which you would never see here. EU free movement is a not in the slightest bit controversial and EU migrants aren't seen as fully foreigners the way a Korean or Brazilian migrant would be. The UK is just fundamentally more culturally Eurosceptic and while it saddens me, I've made peace with it.
thorny_business@reddit
We arguably have more in common with English-speaking former colonies than we do with European systems. Similar systems of government, legal systems, sports. Historically, Europe has been somewhere that has been invading us or dragging us into their wars.
Thetonn@reddit
We also have multiple ex colonies that are doing better than us economically without having to be part of blocks like this.
Our default comparison is to Australia and New Zealand, who are doing pretty well on their own without the European Commission.
I think French politics would be very different if Algeria had regularly outperformed France on the economic front over the last few decades.
FrauAmarylis@reddit
Better than the rest of the world.
It’s really sad, because nobody in any of the countries I’ve lived in has any respect for the UK.
They have PMs like BoJo and some random that was only in the office for a fortnight.
The entire island is smaller than a US lake, and everyone in London is wearing cowboy boots and New York gear.
It’s funny how Brits are the only ones not in on the joke.
thorny_business@reddit
I have some news for you about other countries.
Euphoric-Newspaper18@reddit
You often hear that phrase in the UK, "but we don't want the French, the Germans and Brussels making our rules". What someone involved in TV should do is get a documentary series off the ground whereby citizens in the leading European nations would come and live here for 6 months and some Brits would go to live over there for 6 months. They,'d all be doing "run of the mill" type jobs. So, cleaners, careworkers, supermarket workers, etc. Then we'd see how each group get on. My impression is, but I may be wrong, is that here, people are being pretty "ripped off" and paying more for their basic needs.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87@reddit
The world in general, not just Europe. We think there’s nothing the world can teach us, and god forbid that a good idea comes from a country we don’t like—that rules out the good idea forever.
dm_me-your-butthole@reddit
give everyone a foot fetish
Otherwise_Craft9003@reddit
The benefits welfare obsession fed by right wing mass media when the facts don't meet the feelings.
Ok-Chest-7932@reddit
I'd install whatever mental activity lead to everyone wearing suits on a daily basis. Not because I like suits, but because the country would be a lot better off if everyone in it cared enough about the opinions of others that they might try to present themselves as smart and proper. You'd get all sorts of beneficial side-effects of this, such as not littering and not being obnoxiously drunk.
ZX52@reddit
There's an authoritarian streak that I'm really not a fan of. There's a lot of people who'd rather the BTP arrest people for playing music on the bus/train, rather than just ask them to turn it down/off.
AutisticElephant1999@reddit
I sort of take the middle ground view on the example you used. I think BTP should tell an offender to turn it off, but arrest them if they refuse to comply.
Better for everyone concerned because the offender is offered a “road to redemption”, BTP saves the hassle of arresting people and the associated paperwork, and the other passengers no longer need to choose between either putting up with anti-social behaviour or confronting the offender themselves
ZX52@reddit
This is exactly what I'm talking about - playing music, being an arsehole in general, should not be grounds for arrest.
AutisticElephant1999@reddit
What other solutions do you have to offer?
ZX52@reddit
As I said in my OC, you go to talk to them. Be polite, be passive-aggressive, shame them, I don't care. But being slightly annoyed on a bus is not a good enough reason for someone to be arrested.
AutisticElephant1999@reddit
Sorry, but CHOOSING to creating a public nuisance, especially after being told not to, is absolutely grounds for being arrested
ZX52@reddit
And again, this is the exact authoritarian streak that I was talking about.
Motor-Idea-7306@reddit
Football rage, especially towards women and people of colour.
"Domestic abuse soars by nearly 50 per cent after the England men's football team win a World Cup game". Key word, WIN.
Also racism in pub culture. I think that everyone would agree that a large majority of pubs that you go to, there are tons of racists that dislike if you're foreign or if you have a different skin colour than them.
Mikeytee1000@reddit
Going back to how we were in the 90’s, pre all this uncontrolled immigration it is ruining our country and culture
AlbionRemainsXIV@reddit
Just get rid of the far right
AnyOlUsername@reddit
I’d get rid of the xenophobia and lack of empathy.
ukollie1020@reddit
Stop racism.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
Real racism yeah, but the bar for what’s racist is ridiculous now and people go along with it. I have a black SA and a Pakistani friend and even they were saying today how dead-brained it’s gotten.
Unacceptable_tragedy@reddit
Just so you know, there are people of colour who say things like this deliberately around people they think are racist, so they seem like 'one of the good ones'.
ukollie1020@reddit
Context: I am a healthcare professional and the number of people who refused to see me and made racist comments is ridiculous. Mostly from old people really.
Puzzleheaded-Use-64@reddit
I'm a (white as they come) carer, and the number of times I've been praised for being "so good with patients" when my primary qualification seems to be my skin colour is frightening.
I have colleagues who are 10x better than me with people but they get half the recognition because so many people dismiss them automatically
ukollie1020@reddit
Exactly. And all we are trying to do is to help. Don’t get me wrong 90% of the people have beeb great. But it only takes 1 difficult person to ruin your day.
Mission-25@reddit
We have an aging population don’t take it to heart. What a sad and bitter life they’ve had. Whenever I come across a racist I always ask them about their upbringing and education. The same story a dysfunctional family, alcoholism or other drug addiction and their family rarely see them. Gosh imagine dying a racist.
ukollie1020@reddit
I work in a low-income area which is not helping. I got into the industry to help people, but every single week we have people making racist comments. Considering moving out of the UK, I did not sign up for this shit.
Mission-25@reddit
I understand but don’t be disheartened most racists have never left the country or read a book if they can even read. Their real anger and vitriolic beliefs are at their own situation in life not you personally. They just need someone to blame because they’ve had a rotten upbringing. Don’t give up there are many good people in low income areas. Please don’t tar everyone in impoverished areas the same. Poverty, addiction and poor mental health go hand in hand. As a British person I hope and pray you stay and make a difference. I appreciate you!
oh_f-f-s@reddit
I think the British (English) have a bit of an air of exceptionalism about us.
I'd get rid of that tbh
steelcity91@reddit
I have a few but you said one thing. People sitting on their arses and complaining but not getting off their arse to do something about it.
AutisticElephant1999@reddit
As a society we are far too tolerant of anti Social behaviour- especially if alcohol is involved (I think this ties into our nation’s problematic drinking culture which has already been mentioned in other comments)
There seems to be a segment of British society that thinks that politely and respectfully calling somebody out on antisocial behaviour makes you as bad or worse than the person doing antisocial behaviour (or makes you a “Karen” which as I understand the term explicitly refers to white women weaponising their social position against people of colour, not just “anyone who publicly shows displays annoyance or irrational with another persons actions)
Massive-Bowler6089@reddit
Sweetener in every soft drink - ashamed of my fellow citizens for accepting this crap
zerotolerance4trolls@reddit
The mindset that politicians do nothing, most people don’t know that the majority of politicians and staffer’s are actually volunteers and don’t get paid till they are either on a committee or an mp, most of us work 7 day weeks and have our phones on 24/7 we really are just trying to help.
Bebibobi@reddit
People should strike more for their rights like the French do (even if some don’t like French folks, they know how to complain)
TheZamboon@reddit
Get rid of the crabs in a bucket mentality. I used to get told I was greedy and selfish at university for having ambitions bigger than being employed til I die.
Additional_Hippo_878@reddit
The class system. Embarrassingly oppressive and sinister BS. It's 2025, not 1825.
MultiMidden@reddit
Getting rid of 'ruining it for the rest of us' or 'give an inch take a mile' culture.
As an example I remember when massive super/hyper-markets had unlimited free parking and it was changed because a small minority of the population abused the system, even though it wasn't a lot of people it was still enough of a problem that they had to get rid of it. Even with fines you still see it, pretty much full carpark but the store is quiet.
katiepotatie82@reddit
Daytime drinking to the extent that you're wasted by 4pm.
Give it a rest.
Careful-Swimmer-2658@reddit
Toxic nostalgia for an idealised past that never really existed. The past was full of disease, violence, prejudice and poverty.
BeautyGoesToBenidorm@reddit
Rampant anti-Semitism. I'll never forget a Holocaust survivor, who lives near me, having bricks thrown at her windows and dog shit being pushed through her letterbox. Poor woman wouldn't harm a fly.
For the record, I'm also Jewish. My eldest son was attacked at school by a group of teens.
I'm just bloody sick of mindless violence.
WGSMA@reddit
I’d want to get rid of the cultural ambition deficit
leah_amelia@reddit
Understand that spending a time and money doing something now will help everyone in the long run. This country seems to have an aversion to long term thinking. Even when we do, it’s a nightmare half the time. HS2 would have a been a run of the mill project in most of Europe or China, but we ballsed it up massively
Old-Ambassador-8143@reddit
Ban moaning, it’s our national sport, we moan about everything….including moaning tbf!
cheekyfatcow@reddit
The racism
Round_Engineer8047@reddit
It doesn't apply to everyone in in the UK or perhaps even the majority but I'd change the attitude of people punching down. Scorning people on benefits for example or assuming that everyone too sick to work are swinging the lead.
I'd change the class system or at least the way we view it. I'm sure that's connected. I'd change the thug culture too but most people aren't like that.
HoraceorDoris@reddit
Running down the younger generations. Running down the older generations.
Apparently , every single “Boomer, Gen X, Gen Y etc. has been lazy and feckless when they were young and now they’re pilloried for being “responsible” for the state of the country🤷🏻♂️
mushybees83@reddit
The anti-intellectualism
FireLadcouk@reddit
Dont kill yourself
FireLadcouk@reddit
Show more emptions
FireLadcouk@reddit
How some people treat and talk to their children
Upstairs-Basis9909@reddit
I wish we'd be slightly more direct in our speech and intentions.
Total-Book-12@reddit
100%. I wish we were more direct! Maybe a bit more like the Dutch or Germans in their directness.
Alive-Surround8023@reddit
Insular thinking and machismo.
Richard__Papen@reddit
Think of other people more eg with loud music - in your house, on the bus - and having phone conversations on speaker.
Lizzie-P@reddit
I tend to stare at someone deadpan until they turn it off 😂
Richard__Papen@reddit
I shall try that next time i encounter a gang of drunken youths on the bus!
Zutsky@reddit
It's so obnoxious. I've had to keep windows closed during the heat because some knob nearby has just been blasting shit music all day in their garden.
Richard__Papen@reddit
I passed some dossers the other day. Massive speaker in their front garden, very loud music, loud enough to irritate probably 30-40 neighbouring houses. You want to play music in your garden for yourselves, fair enough, but you're literally sat right near the speaker. It doesn't have to be loud for you to hear it. So turn it down you absolute weapons.
CarpeCyprinidae@reddit
I'd replace multiculturalism with a general non binding expectation of people assimilating in and adopting our cultural norms, as not all cultural traditions deserve respect and the system preserves behaviours a more sensible system would seek to eliminate
RonBonxious@reddit
The 'I suffered so why shouldn't everyone else?' attitude
Chronic politeness - I wish people would just communicate clearly what they want/don't want
The unhealthy culture surrounding alcohol
Oh, wait - that's three things...
Either_Reality3687@reddit
I've seen a cleaner ask people to clean up rubbish they threw on the floor They asked what proof it was mine. He put a at first fake camera on his hat to show them it was on camera which made them pick it up. Now he has a real camera that has an Internet feed to his office. Tell people I think you dropped something.
I remember walking to school and a girl threw her glass bottle on the floor
Henegunt@reddit
Pretending we are somehow more racist or homophobic than any other country when in reality we are much less.
prustage@reddit
Crabs in a bucket mentality.
This seems to be a constant aspect of the British working class. They are totally OK with there being Royals, Aristocracy, Upper classes. They are totally OK with being working class. But if you try and better yourself, get an education, acquire skills, develop new interests and get a good job they hate it. You are a "traitor to your class", getting above yourself", "forgetting your roots".
I grew up in the North, we were dirt poor - as was everyone around us. Yet I was constantly told to "get yer head out of that book", picked on for having the nerve to go to a "grammar school" (the quotes were almost visible). And quite honestly I would have got more respect for dealing drugs than I did for going to university.
Derries_bluestack@reddit
Outlaw gangs with meaningful police action and deterrents. Stop youths joining gangs. A complete crackdown.
Ben-D-Beast@reddit
Remove the cynicism/self loathing, we live in one of the best countries in the world but people would rather focus on (as often exaggerate) our issues.
Top-Aspect-8827@reddit
Everyone would learn how to merge properly, and how to correctly use a slip road
Lizzie-P@reddit
I can never understand how people don’t understand that, if they merge correctly, it will benefit everyone- including themselves. People would rather purposefully block other people from merging in an attempt to be selfish and just bring everything to a standstill. It’s baffling
Jlaw118@reddit
Or even use a lane properly in general and not hog the middle/outside lane on a motorway. My biggest bugbear at the minute
Lizzie-P@reddit
Honestly just people being a little less selfish and a little more considerate would be nice
AprilBoon@reddit
Eating animals supporting animal cruelty and exploitation. Then it would actually be a animal loving nation. The environment would benefit so much.
Delicious_Ride2358@reddit
Be more open minded.
poptimist185@reddit
Constantly complaining about the state of politics but tacitly accepting it, though that’s certainly not unique to us.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87@reddit
Tbh, all my life I’ve heard people moan about “bloody politicians” and yet most people I’ve ever asked for specifics have no idea. It’s just a reflex in British culture. People hate politicians by default, usually without knowing a thing about them. It’s toxic and an aspect of British culture I’d like to change. I’m not saying we have to worship our MPs, but the automatic assumption that they’re corrupt and useless isn’t helpful. I wonder why anyone even wants to get into politics in the UK as all it means is making yourself a target for some barely-literate moron to call you a c*nt for no reason.
Important_March1933@reddit
Oh I hate this also, accepting status quo all the time
obbitz@reddit
I wish it was less influenced by the USA.
PooCube@reddit
Id get rid of roadman/chav culture
mach4UK@reddit
Putting up with “computer says” customer service. Until people complain nothing is going to change. Oh, never mind…mustn’t grumble
twonoteswivel@reddit
Ignorance and selfishness. So few people here have basic manners or even an awareness of other people around them. Barely anyone says thanks when you move out of their way on a narrow path, for example. They litter, they don’t pick up their dogs’ shit, they glare like you’re automatically an enemy unless proven otherwise. People refuse to follow rules that are beneficial to everyone. People steam ahead without much regard for anyone else. There’s a big ‘fuck you’ attitude, and I hate it. I hate to see children influenced by their parents acting like this too. It’s actually depressing.
runs_with_fools@reddit
The shift towards individualism. The idea that as long as I’m alright, fuck everyone else, particularly fuck the poor, the disabled and the disenfranchised.
LAcasper@reddit
Casual racism and the idea that you're not getting what you need because an immigrant is getting it instead.
kitaj19@reddit
I think the amount of blaming , pointy fingers, reproachfulness and anger everywhere at the moment is something I'd love to change. But that would involve a really huge magic wand.
1191100@reddit
The tendency of people in the UK to blindly follow authority and the ruling classes
orangesapplespears@reddit
Absolute commitment to self depracation. I find it disproportionately shows up in women and then people can't take a compliment or own anything good about themselves and it's a bad example for younger women trying to build self confidence.
Aphr0dite19@reddit
Do better for the environment. Stop allowing the water companies to pump sewage into the sea (literally happening where I live), stop taking land meant for nesting birds and animals. Pick up after ourselves.
karpet_muncher@reddit
Work isn't the be all and end all.
There's too many people who make work their whole thing in life and take it way too seriously
OneOffReturn@reddit
That football wouldnt be treated like its a religion
Training_Republic879@reddit (OP)
As one of these people I disagree haha
ultrapurrple@reddit
The Press. It’s not just the tabloids, they all care more about their agendas than real reporting. Maybe keep the front page of The Star though because it’s (mostly) hilarious
Training_Republic879@reddit (OP)
Modern journalism is a joke. As someone going into journalism as a career I hope I can fight the good fight and try to change it. I honestly blame the Internet and this societal expectation for any journalism to be free online. Because of that papers rely on ads to make money hence scummy clickbait. This issue was around before the Internet of course, but definitely made worse by it. We all acknowledge this is a problem yet still complain when journalism is behind a pay wall. We all used to buy papers so why is it so bad now? And having that pay wall usually means actual quality journalism
lepan06@reddit
Our work ethic. We aren’t hard workers. The hardest workers I have known are eastern europeans. The poles and Romanians have run rings around me while they’re ill!! I have a huge respect for those people because damn! We rely on immigrants to be doctors and other important jobs because us brits don’t want to.
JustUseAnything@reddit
Drivers: Move to the left on motorways.
Highways: don’t close motorways in massive lengths when you don’t need to. Stop turning the M20 into a lorry park. Quit with the miles and miles of 50 zones on motorways. When you advertise a workforce in the road, put a workforce in the road.
Just drove 340 miles so it’s all fresh in my head as to what needs to change.
jono12132@reddit
I feel like we're very surface level friendly. Past a certain age people don't genuinely want to make friends. People don't care about you. I think we're quite asocial and I think it's one of the reasons we have such a drinking culture because it's the only way we can loosen up. I feel like I've been on so many nights out drinking where no one mixes with people they didn't already come with.
I think we're a glass half empty bunch of people. Americans get hyped about everything whereas we can only see the negatives. I read stuff about ways to meet people on Reddit. I read all the Americans talking about coffee shops and supermarkets. I think they're just a more outgoing people whereas to me trying to make friends or find a partner in the fruit and veg aisle sounds like odd behaviour. I think they're a bit over the top but I sometimes wish we were a bit more like them rather than negative and unfriendly.
JasonMantou@reddit
True...as a foreigner in London I can never walk into the White British's heart. Not sure how the deep relationship between white Brits is...
Pleasant-Winner6311@reddit
Self belief
Girl_mi_646@reddit
How everyone just accepts misery and talks about it like it’s fun “How are you ” ”Shit” ”same, don’t you just hate life?” ”yup,I’m depressed af ” ”NO WAY!! me too!!!!”
No-Criticism3618@reddit
Selfishness. It exudes everywhere: people littering, being noisy, thieving, anti-social behaviour, voting for scumbags who they think will benefit them, destroying or vandalising property because it somehow makes them feel better, companies charging the earth for everything to pay selfish CEOs and shareholders, it goes on and on through every element of life.
how_bout_those@reddit
The fact that people are too conflict-averse to call out others on antisocial behaviour.
dickbob124@reddit
Can't do that or you're a snitch/karen though. /s
Andr0idUser@reddit
RESPECT. I'm 30 and kids today have no fear of authority and it shows. When I was lad you'd get a clip round the lug for being cheeky to adults, certainly taught me manners & respect and I have grown into a well adjusted person. I'm not saying people beating the daylights out there kids is acceptable but we are just a it too soft on children these days.
Prize-Cauliflower155@reddit
The acceptance of purely lazy people claiming benefits. Making up disabilities and claiming money for them rather than working. I’m all for supporting those that need supporting due to being dealt a hand that cannot control, however if someone can control themselves and go out and live their life - get on with it and stop sponging off the taxpayer.
yoleveen@reddit
Drinking culture
MrRWhitworth@reddit
Less kids thinking they are gangsters and stabbing their peers.
Famous-Complex8281@reddit
Mistaking politeness as signs of 'I care a lot'. Many times I have encountered people who are incredibly nice and polite but chose to turn a blind eye on the mistakes they made, as if their responsibilities are fulfilled after they apologised. And when being confronted for making amend, they would deny because there is nothing they could do, despite sending their deepest 'concern and care'.
DragonfruitItchy4222@reddit
We are far too tolerant in virtually every way, I'd make us much less tolerant.
Technical-Wafer-7005@reddit
An unearned respect for the upper classes/richer people. They're rich because their parents were rich and their lifestyle is out of reach of 90% of the population. Stop idolising them and tax them properly! Most economic problems we have in this country could be solved by simply taxing the rich properly. And if they leave the country because of a rich tax then good riddance to them, they don't pay their fair share anyway!
BikeProblemGuy@reddit
See also: the royal family.
newterracota@reddit
That would be a contentious point outside reddit, depending on who you speak to.
You're comment reminded me of the glazing that the commentators have done for Wimbledon in the last 12 -14 days in regards to any celebrity sitting in the royal box (including members of the royal family). Instead of focusing on those playing on the court.
Kind of sums up British society in a nutshell, where we there is this expectation of having to respect those in a "higher class" than yourself.
Acrobatic-Pudding-87@reddit
The complaining about everything but then opposing any idea to fix it. Talking over experts who actually understand the problems and have studied the solutions. Very common in local politics.
Educational_Turn_582@reddit
Everyone needs to lighten the fuck up
Head_Inevitable3255@reddit
Closed on Sunday.
Sharktistic@reddit
I would give everyone in the UK a spine.
Everyone complains about this and that, everything from their pint being flat to the state of the government and social services, low wages, a broken NHS, appalling education at every level, and countless other huge issues...
No one ever does anything about it. No one speaks up for fear of offending someone else. The only people who actually make themselves heard are the ones who want the UK to be an entirely isolated nation with a population consisting of one colour: gammon pink.
WVA1999@reddit
Not being lazy as fuck and driving everywhere. People seem unaware that they have legs, that can, you know, enable movement.
_a_m_s_m@reddit
Especially, using those legs to cycle, with a set of pannier bags & a rack it can enable a trip to the shops & be anywhere from 2-5 times the speed of walking.
Valuable_Ad9554@reddit
More discipline, pride and self respect, a la Japan vibes
SignificanceOld1751@reddit
Probably a sense of civic pride.
We just seem resigned to our neighbourhoods being shite
LopsidedTank57@reddit
Change the propensity for harm avoidance. Where you're rightfully annoyed at someone, but you don't want to express it because you don't want to come across as unreasonable or possibly upset the other party.
OK_Cake05@reddit
People are kind enough; ask people how they are when greeting and people are stunned that I ask. The race to the bottom, every one must suffer, criticise ambition attitude
EUskeptik@reddit
I would reverse the UK’s anti-education culture.
MiddleAgeCool@reddit
The obsession that we need to return to the good old days. I'm the wrong side of 50 and right now, the UK is the best it's been in my lifetime.
We haven't got rolling blackouts.,
We haven't got national strikes and hundreds of families receiving zero money for a year; no wages or benefits.
We haven't got towns with over 40% unemployment rates.
We can eat the sheep that graze the hills without them being tested for radiation.
We have workers rights.
We have equality laws that while not perfect, are miles ahead of what they where.
We have things like TVs and phones that would have been financially unaffordable to the majority of the country.
We have out of season food the year round and in abundance. Strawberries in December? As a garish in a drink??? You must be part of the upper class or royal family!
_a_m_s_m@reddit
Thanks for putting things in perspective, sure we have housing issues/wage stagnation but I’ve never really thought of it like that before.
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
Not to mention the heatwave of 1976.
As many as 1000 excess deaths and it wreaked havoc on certain industries and things like the railways.
az22hctac@reddit
The attitude that those that are lucky enough to (or are still striving to) make a better life for themselves ‘think they’re better’, ‘ashamed of where they come from’ etc etc Never understood trying to shame someone’s success (especially family and friends!)
ElmolovesArchie@reddit
Reliance on convienience products and single use plastic. People are so incredibly lazy and selfish when it comes to this… nobody seems to care about the planet.
ILikeXiaolongbao@reddit
I wish people had more bravery to think big, and take their ideas, inventions etc and make it into a scalable thing that could really help our economy.
The US and China are a lot better at that, helps their economy.
elbapo@reddit
L I T T E R
profprimer@reddit
Abandon this Cult of the Individual we seem to have embraced. It’s not all about you. We live in a society, bound by laws and decency. All the poor behaviour (littering, swearing, boorish drunkenness, flat earth, anti-Woke, antivaxx, reactionary politics, the lot), can be traced back to this characteristic we now have.
Ciato78@reddit
Parking attitudes currently are atrocious.
Away_Cauliflower1367@reddit
I confronted someone for parking bang in the middle two spaces in a very busy car park at the beach yesterday. Yes they just arrived also and were in front of us.
Not sure if I was in the wrong or not.
Ciato78@reddit
Usually the entitled SUV crowd like that particular move!
petitdejeuner96@reddit
The racism
netzure@reddit
Wait until you see how racist other countries actually are.
dickbob124@reddit
Why does that excuse or lessen the impact of racism here?
blob8543@reddit
That's irrelevant, what we do is unacceptable
coffeewalnut08@reddit
The whole littering thing
Implematic950@reddit
Bring back height requirements for police….
In the news this week a police woman had her nose broken and was knocked out at manchester airport. And the tow rags are up in court for the assault
turns out the police woman in question is 5’2” and 8 stone.
I’m sure she’s a capable copper in all other areas but I’ve no doubt her small stature played a part in her injuries.
MrD-88@reddit
Coppers are a joke these days. They'll hire anybody. When I was a kid if you even got mouthy with the ones in my area they'd tie you in a knot and chuck you straight in the van.
If you fancied yourself and got handsy you'd have 4 or 5 of them on you, probably slapped about and locked up.
Nobody respects them any more because the ones they put in the uniform are ill equipped to deal with the high stress situations that are part of being a copper.
No-Door-3181@reddit
10000% passive-aggressiveness
Greggybread@reddit
Absolutely. And the fact that it all just stems from being too pathetic to communicate displeasure directly.
jacklee1595@reddit
Was looking for this. Nothing said out in the open, shit talking behind another's back instead
No-Door-3181@reddit
I'm just so tired of dealing with it in professional environments tbh
Away_Cauliflower1367@reddit
Taking some pride in your immediate surroundings, try to make the front of your house look presentable, remove the weeds, sweep up and make sure your bin hasn't leaked anything into the road. A small amount of consistent effort goes a long way.
No-Nefariousness9539@reddit
Binge drinking culture. I like a few drinks don’t get me wrong but I don’t go out to get blasted, I usually come home a little bit tipsy and no hangover. People don’t realise how badly your liver gets damaged from binge drinking.
IllustratorGlass3028@reddit
Id want honesty. I believe it's lost in our place and around the world. If honesty came back I'd say a lot of problems especially economically would be solved .....I can but wish.
tarxvfBp@reddit
Everyone now understands how merge in turn is intended to work and also has impeccable lane discipline on motorways.
EvrthnICRtrns2USmhw@reddit
At the moment, I can think of one thing: removing the sun culturally.
sharps2020@reddit
People who walk their dogs in stupid temperatures (probably not culturel though), I've said to 3 different people today it's too hot but to no avail.
_a_m_s_m@reddit
Lack of imagination & unwillingness to change. Case studies: High speed rail, pedestrianisation proposals, cycle lanes, trams, LTN’s etc.
I’ve had the chance to travel & seeing all these things in real life that so many in the UK would sneer at & say are impossible & would “never work here”. Of course until it does.
planetwords@reddit
I would like everyone to please return to respecting and trusting experts, and their learned considered experienced nuanced educated opinions instead of the average person just reading the Daily Mail and 'making their own mind up'.
irishmickguard@reddit
The flagellating self hatred of the middle class. Lost count of how many people ive seen acting like they are personally responsible for colonial Britain and apologising for stuff their parents weren't even alive for.
Fake_Disciple@reddit
The need to moan about everything and want the earth to handed to us when we don’t give shit back. I saw a post of someone created a change petition for the TfL to do someone about people using their loudspeaker to make phone calls or blaring TikTok to me this is peak entitlement as this is such a non issue their is bigger issues in London and they want strain a already thin stretched TfL to do something
Dommccabe@reddit
That the working class stop worshiping the elite and the Royals.
They are all greedy parasites.. we are a wealthy country, generally speaking, so nobody should be homeless or hungry or lacking education opportunities.
It's just the wealthy horde more than they can use.
Sensitive-Vast-4979@reddit
More localisation. So many localisation accents , communities etc have died since the 80s
Poo_Poo_La_Foo@reddit
I'd enjoy it if there were fewer racists/homophobes/bigots, etc. But I feel like that is a pretty big ask.
Ashen_One86@reddit
Drinking culture.
MissingBothCufflinks@reddit
More pride in our society, legacy and legal system.
HaggisPope@reddit
More drinking
explorer9898@reddit
Less negativity in general which links to a lot of things but seems to get worse on a daily basis now to the point it effects my mental health quite severely
bjorno1990@reddit
Obsession with buying houses or Monarchy worship.
samnissen@reddit
Abundance mentality.
Two parts: First, I’d try to get the country to see that more was possible through collaboration, kindness, and intentional design. Second, stop fetishizing what is over what can be, especially specifically thinking of farm land as “green belt”instead of what it really is: a food factory doing triple duty also as a tax haven for the wealthy caste and an inefficient use of land.
Proof_Drag_2801@reddit
An opinion based on ignorance should be kept to yourself.
uknwr@reddit
It's people... You could have finished there..."It's People" is the only correct answer.
Snaggl3t00t4@reddit
We have stopped being polite. No completely but in cities its shit.
birkinbabe_@reddit
Better customer service
Tanitee@reddit
Stop drinking so damn much
Wide-Cash1336@reddit
Not pro immigration enough. We should be opening up our spare bedrooms to these suffering men coming over in small boats. We have social care vacancies, let's have them caring for our elderly.
Ambitious-You-3702@reddit
Big groups of cyclists.
h00dman@reddit
I wish we didn't sneer at success so much.
MewMeowHowdy@reddit
I shouldn’t have to walk around terrified of a bunch of unsupervised kids riding about in balaclavas and hoodies. There were a group of them today who slipped past the security fence and thought it’d be good fun to throw furniture that people left by the tip into the Mersey.
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
Scousers are an odd bunch. They won't do a damned thing about the very serious problems in their own city, but they will come swinging for anyone not Scouse who has an opinion.
MewMeowHowdy@reddit
First off, I’m American. I moved here for Uni and I’m miserable. “Well why don’t you go home, then?” My own country is a bit of a dumpster fire at the moment if you hadn’t heard.
Secondly, way to make a sweeping generalization about a whole group of people. Yes, there’s a strange duality among some Liverpudlians who are proud to be Scouse but actively participate in ruining their own city. There’s also many who are trying to help it.
Thirdly, it’s clearly not a Liverpool-centric problem. The entire thread is filled with people who echo some of the same problems.
Fourth, “the gangsters with the Irish surnames”…a bit racist, y’think?
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
I meant "you" as in any given scouser, not you.
Neat_Soup6322@reddit
I know this ain't exclusive to the UK but why do people piss all over the toilet seat and beyond?
LaraH39@reddit
I'd delete all racism
LeonardoW9@reddit
The crab bucket mentality / tall poppy syndrome that is so commonplace, particularly with the lack of respect for education. Teachers catch so many strays for trying to educate the next generation, but so many adults think they could do a better job because they also went to school.
Dizzeem@reddit
Pride in general People seem to only have Pride and be “Proud to be British” when there is a televised event like NYE.
Demand higher standards. People seem pretty just accept low standards and even make excuses for it which often do not make any sense.
Accountability, there is very little especially in leadership.
P33ph0le@reddit
Not being so OTT and shocked over swearing. I'm not saying that people need to go round and swear 24/7, I just think the censorship around others or on TV for example is too much.
Technical-End8710@reddit
Drink less
darthabraham@reddit
Quit fucking moaning. The UK is amazing.
BuriedInRust@reddit
I'd love a more Scandinavian society where everyone minds their own business and gets on with their lives.
afcote1@reddit
With the public services to go with it
Mooovement@reddit
Drink culture- our attitudes to getting drunk.
gentlepersuasion420@reddit
Expel the criminal symphasiers. You know the sort that shrug off all sorts of wrong doing and criminality and tell the police to go after the 'real' criminals.
That and limiting the amount of cars per household on some streets, banning PCP on some vehicle categories would be good too. No, you don't need a leased rangey for driving around town and squeeze into your tiny allocated parking space.
lucymed@reddit
Noise pollution. People blaring out music on the bus, out of their car window or at house parties, children screaming endlessly outside my window.
Spicymargx@reddit
I feel like British people don’t like confident people, especially in the workplace. People who are self-depreciating are often more accepted.
Goblin_Deez_@reddit
Depends. There’s confident people, and then there’s in your face obnoxious people who think they’re confident. Sadly you mostly encounter the latter.
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
The loud people who just insert themselves into every project going and hijacking it.
Spicymargx@reddit
There’s a difference between confidence and arrogance for sure.
GeggingIn@reddit
You can be quietly confident.
Have found those who are modest/ willing to admit when they don’t know something are often far more intelligent than the boasty loudmouths.
Definitely less irritating too.
Key_Seaworthiness827@reddit
The proportion of self deprecating people I've met who are worth employing far exceeds the proportion of confident ones
Spicymargx@reddit
In my workplace there are 200 staff whose work I oversee in some way or another. I’d prefer a calm, competent pair of hands.
ClarifyingMe@reddit
Individualism.
knitscones@reddit
Get rid of nobility, class system.
UkTruthBomb@reddit
Weak people who tolerate vulnerable people being abused because they are afraid to speak up about it as it might offend somebody...
EnoughYesterday2340@reddit
Crab bucket mentality. We'd be a lot better off if we weren't trying to drag everyone attempting to succeed down.
BikeProblemGuy@reddit
Poor understanding of history and the British empire.
blob8543@reddit
The bitterness lots of people have towards the disabled, foreign people, trans people, anyone who strikes and any other group the Telegraph or Daily Mail tell them they have to hate.
It's not a British thing per se but there's way too many people like this.
KaiMycelium@reddit
Abolish washing up bowls
Akash_nu@reddit
Mutual respect for everyone and the environment outside of the house.
bowagahija@reddit
Littering
twpa-01@reddit
The hard man attitude of most males.
Bbew_Mot@reddit
The usage of imperial measurements. We're in the 21st century, let's go fully metric.
Rika_rena@reddit
Clasism
FarChildhood1015@reddit
The obsession with WW2.
Infinitethoughts022@reddit
The obsession with the 1966 world cup lol
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
The English game has been largely pretty good.
The main squad had two Euros finals on the trot (2021 and 2024) and the girls won the 2022 Euros.
Opening_Cut_6379@reddit
Many years ago maybe, not now
Opening_Cut_6379@reddit
I don't see any such obsession
justmoochin@reddit
Well it is one of the most interesting bits of history ever
Richard__Papen@reddit
That's only old people, surely, specifically old blokes
Bose82@reddit
It’s mainly boomers who act like they’ve sacrificed everything when the reality is they had possibly the easiest time in our history
Richard__Papen@reddit
Like I said, old people
GhostPantherNiall@reddit
The casual right wing racism of the average voter. Bunch of weirdos who earn minimum wage who would die for a billionaire because they believe some refugees in boats are the cause of their problems.
Ok_Elderberry_5690@reddit
Skin colour so we can’t be called racist
Illustrious-Divide95@reddit
People would be friendlier, and not judge people by their accent, age, and the way they look.
MidnightRambler87@reddit
Fuck me, you’ve summed up my near 40 years on this hellhole in one sentence.
DiscoReads@reddit
Drinking culture(!) - majority of the UK normalises casual alcoholism as a way to fundamentally cope with the terrible handling of the economic and healthcare system.
Alongside the glorification of being a ‘workaholic’…
No, John, working yourself so hard that you quit sleeping, never took a holiday and eventually dropped dead from a stress induced heart attack isn’t something we should be celebrating or encouraging…?
Newsdwarf@reddit
This mad era of self-entitlement we're in post-COVID. Personal convenience has become the new religion, and there's no God higher than "It's MY right", and sod everyone's else's most basic needs.
Strict-Juggernaut932@reddit
Stop killing animals
netzure@reddit
Taking pride in one’s work. So many people across so many professions just do their job in a substandard way because they can. This contrasts with the Japanese who take immense pride in things like cleaning trains or mastering their profession regardless of how menial. My biggest pet peeve are road workers who who’ll rip up freshly laid stone or brick and replace it with a patch of tarmac. They just had to take a little bit of care at the beginning and end of the job but won’t.
Jolly-Minimum-6641@reddit
Get politics out of everything.
Salahs_barber@reddit
Stop knocking successful people down, seems a very British habit that whoever is successful or achieved something they have to be put down and made to be in the wrong.
TalkingDonkey07@reddit
Get rid of the EPL
Whitegurlwasted2309@reddit
Be more adventurous with food! I'd say most people i know will only eat something if it's beige in colour!
Imperial_nugget@reddit
Chips with some freezer meat, take it or leave it.
Aware-Conference9960@reddit
Our superiority complex
Dorrellectric@reddit
Absolutely fuck all.
Familiar-Tune-4U@reddit
Stop promoting and participating in the abuse of the most vulnerable in the country.
Imperial_nugget@reddit
Removing crab mentality, when someone is ambitious we have to knock them down a peg, or if they're below us we make fun of them. We need to support each other more and not kick someone when they are down.
Mandala1069@reddit
Make us more likely to take to the streets when government ignores us.
Buck_Folton@reddit
I would teach the gospel of apostrophe’s
TenTonneTamerlane@reddit
The sense of national self loathing, especially among the youth!
Not self *depreciation*, mind you - the odd joke at your own expense is a foundation stone of British humour.
No, I'm talking more about this sort of thing, (and, while I'm on it, this sort of nonsense too) - the idea that Britain is the worst country in the world, that the British *people* are the worst people in the world, and so on and so forth.
Does Britain have its flaws? Yes. Are there parts of Britain's past that are, shall we say, regrettable? Also yes. But for goodness sake, the idea that we're this uniquely blighted hellscape full of borderline demons is absolute nonsense - and something I think we'd all be much better off well without.
convolutedcomplexity@reddit
Greater national pride - not nationalism which would allow us to reunify and resolve problems rather than what we currently do is digging in behind party ideology and tribalism.
We are falling behind fast, we need to accept some bitter medicine and make headway
ResplendentBear@reddit
Healthier drinking culture. Get rid of the inconsiderate drinkers.
It's the people who drink daily until they become a problem, the people in Wetherspoons with a pint at breakfast (but no food), and the people smashed on the train when everyone's just trying to get home from work at 6pm.
I don't care if you're occasionally drunk and a bit shouty at 11pm, or even that much if someone throws up in a car park at midnight. We're not going to be perfect or suddenly get a Mediterranean drinking culture. Just don't be a dick.
Equal-Competition930@reddit
We need complain more. We compaign about all wrong things like weather. There reason the quality of goods and service in better in other countries. My mum spend time in Germany while she was in army and I to been Greece , Italy and Usa and the customer service is so much better in rest of world.
Knight1265@reddit
The constant need to blame all of our problems on other people or groups (Migrants, EU, young people, old people) rather than be willing to work towards a solution.
AyahuascaMann@reddit
Personally I would much prefer people to be straight about everything rather than lying to be polite.
lampbirdeye@reddit
I’d love us all to be more willing to stand together against bullying, hate and injustice, rather than just shrugging and acting like anyone trying to make the world more bearable are fools wasting their time.
Blue_FiftyTwo@reddit
The political apathy
scoutshortlist@reddit
NIMBYism
alphanash@reddit
Just generally taking pride in your country. I really notice the difference every time I travel for work or on holiday. Spain, Germany, South Africa, America... Everywhere I go, the residents generally acknowledge their country's flaws, but still show pride in it and a willingness to make it better. That could be in fighting to preserve traditions, making an effort to keep neighbourhoods clean, making an effort to socialise with your neighbours, taking pride in British TV... that sort of thing.
Obviously I'm generalising and there are a number of people who do those things, but it's proportionately a lot less than other countries (from my perspective at least).
A lot of us here seem to have just given up. They just keep to themselves and watch the country's identify get eroded .
God, I sound like the start of some radical movement, but I really mean just the little things like those I mentioned above.
WhatWeHavingForTea@reddit
Self entitlement, lack of consideration and thought for others... E.g currently people using hosepipes as 'I pay my bill I should be able to use what I want'... Yes you should, but drinking water for humans and wildlife is more important.
People who are so lazy, they can't just move thier hands a small way from the steering wheel to the indicator stick.
DropDeadDigsy@reddit
“I’m alright Jack” sense of entitlement
False_Mulberry8601@reddit
Benefits culture
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