If you are on AM5 - which board did you chose and why?
Posted by ManOfTheForest@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 261 comments
I was researching a build and found AM5 socket chipsets to be the most confusing I have ever seen. Answer will be useful to people looking to build.
Artemis732@reddit
gigabyte x670 gaming x ax V2 because it has good power delivery and shitloads of usb
WrongCompetition9194@reddit
Got the same board, but I have had to RMA it twice in 3 years. First one wouldn't update the BIOS, second had 2 dead RAM Slots.
Artemis732@reddit
really? i've never tried to update the bios on mine and i only have 2 DDR5 dimms (now impossible to procure more - even if i wanted to) so i wouldn't know if mine has those issues but the only issues i've had with mine, owning it since jan 2025, is the fact that it used to just... not boot for some obscure and completely different reason every time i'd leave for a week and come back and try to use it. apart from that, rock solid.
WrongCompetition9194@reddit
The first board would update the bios when I was building the PC. It ended up completely failing and then It wouldn't instal windows. Spoke to support and the RMA process was pretty quick.
Then starting in Jan, I have been having issues with my Internet adaptor on the mobo cutting out and needed to be reset. Then I started to have issues when turning on the PC the lights and fans would spin up but it would never boot or post. It would take 3-4 restarts and it might boot to windows. After some testing I see I had some RAM faults when doing a MemTest and Corsair did the RMA on the RAM but then when the new RAM arrived I still had boot issues and constant crashing knowing its not the RAM I have one dead RAM slot and one that's intermittently faulty.
Now Im waiting on Gigabyte to RMA this board. Luckily it is still one month remaining on its 3 year warranty. If this happened later in the year Id be footing the bill to buy a new Mobo.
Artemis732@reddit
doesn't the warranty reset after you RMA'd it for the first time? or was that when you first got the board?
WrongCompetition9194@reddit
No idea, the day it says the warranty will expire is 3 years after I got it so I would say it doesn’t reset.
Artemis732@reddit
damn, that's really stupid. every other thing i've ever had to return has had the warranty reset when i got the new one.
heliosfa@reddit
ProArt X870E-CREATOR WIFI, because it was the only board with an Aquantia 10G nic and an Intel 2.5G nic and had enough m.2 slots that didn't trigger lane sharing for what I needed.
thewildblue77@reddit
This, because it had 10G, but could also bifurifcate the top 2 PCIE X16 slots. Im running a 4090 (Rendering) in the top slot Gen 4 X8 and a 5070Ti ( Lossless scaling GPU + DP2.1) in 2nd slot Gen 5 X8. Bottom slot has a B580 (Davinci studio and handbrake) Gen 4 X4. Im using 3 out of the 4 M2 slots as the M2.2 will cause the 2nd slot to drop in speed.
bitwaba@reddit
What are you doing with your daily tasks that causes speed drop when adding a 4th drive to be noticeable?
thewildblue77@reddit
The 5070ti needs the pcie bandwidth...although its at X8 I noticed an improvement going from Gen 4 to Gen 5 with the lossless scaling and the flow levels I can run. Im running 7680x2160 so need the bandwidth, base frames are usually 80-120 depending on the game, the higher the base rate the more bandwidth required from what I can see.
My main drive is a 2TB samsung Gen 5 9100. Then in M2.3 I have a 4TB SN850X and in M2.4 a 1TB SN850X. Plus a direct 10GB connection into my NAS which has loads of extra storage. If I needed more space locally id just whack in a bigger Gen 4 as to be honest I didn't notice much difference going to the Gen 5 drive. Though I the past I have been spolit and usually run a Raid0 with either 2 or 4 1TB SN850s...
eraserking@reddit
How are the temperatures for your Samsung 9100 on the ProArt? Browsing reviews I noticed gen5 drives seemed to warmer on average, and the x870e Hero board specifically seemed to fair poorly with its topmost Gen5 bay & heatsink.
thewildblue77@reddit
From what I can see with the hwinfo plug in with afterburner it starts at 41c and isn't going above 45c generally with games loading. I do have 16 fans in the system though, so a nice bit of airflow.
Runt2001@reddit
omfg how much money does this tower cost???? XD it sounds AWESOME
eraserking@reddit
That sounds really good. Nice! Thanks for the reply. Hope it continues to be great!
MarkGeraz@reddit
Any similar consumer boards like this but with PCI 4 slots? I need a x16 for my 4 port nvme adapter, x4 for video card, and the other 2 can be whatever speeds.
freewarefreak@reddit
Do you use the lossless scaling software for frame generation or resolution scaling?
thewildblue77@reddit
Frame gen, use DLSS in game.
SpiffyDodger@reddit
Do you have any issues with the B580 running at x4?
thewildblue77@reddit
Not as yet, but i need to give it a good work out. Currently troubleshooting a stuttering im getting in games at the moment
SpiffyDodger@reddit
I see. You're getting the stuttering whilst outputting on your main GPU?
I have a B580 sitting here that I was tempted to try out in an x4 slot, but I've heard they don't like anything lower than x8.
thewildblue77@reddit
It was stuttering with and without LSFG running. I whipped out the B580 and the stuttering remained.
I swapped the 5070ti for a 9070XT and it was still there... (4090/9070xt/B580 combo).
In the end once I removed the thermaltake riser cable from the bottom chipset slot the stuttering went away, so perhaps 3 riser cables isn't the way with this board. So Im back to smooth sailing again on the 4090/5070ti combo. Maybe its time to try a re-jig with the layout and see what I can squeeze in again.
SpiffyDodger@reddit
Ah I see. Yeah, it could be too much for the lane configuration or could just be the rise cables themselves.
I might have to give the B580 a whirl in my second slot then.
Releasethebeans@reddit
If I may ask. What are you using the B580 for in Davinci?
thewildblue77@reddit
Just another form of rendering to use alongside the nvidia, its just playing about really as im trying to learn the software when I get time. I only got the card added in last week, so still confirming its ok as a 3rd card in the system. Getting some strange stuttering in Warthunder, not sure if its HAGS, the AMD driver ( It has the IGPU and I threw in a 9060xt to test LSFG) or the Intel driver.
Its also been like Satan's armpit this week in the UK so desk time has been very low.
Releasethebeans@reddit
Oh ok. I was wondering since I've heard Intel's Quicksync really helps when deconding compressed video formats. And since I'm currently on AMD, I was hoping the B580 would help me in that regard (I have a 3070 now)
Hetstaine@reddit
How are you finding the biard a couple of months in
heliosfa@reddit
I’m about 8-9 months in and it’s been fine overall.
Had a couple of oddities with AMD raid, but that’s on AMD rather than the board and driver updates have sorted it
stormtrooper42@reddit
I bought mine for 10G as well as Asus seemed the most stable of the x870e's. Wish I could say that was the case but I had to return mine. Started out fine for a few days (latest drivers, BIOS, win11), but then became increasingly unstable. Ethernet ports would randomly disconnect. Started getting BSODs and couldn't hold EXPO anymore. Tried a few workarounds found online but they didn't work and gave up.
After a ton of review research decided that X870E boards have way too many issues and I just wanted stability. They didn't have much difference from X670E (as I don't care about USB4), so I swapped for a X670E MSI MPG Carbon and have had zero issues so far. For 10GB NIC, ordered a 10G ConnectX-3 SFP+ NIC off eBay that I'll use instead.
eraserking@reddit
I like this board. Only thing I wish it had is a seven segment display, or uhh, post code display. Should’ve come with one given the price. It’s like $500 on Amazon, currently.
Errettfitchett03@reddit
I go to pc part picker and sort by cheapest and then scroll up in price until I see one that's cheap but doesn't look cheap. Basically, all boards perform the same.
Tricon916@reddit
Not so. They differ quite a lot in how they handle lanes. If you're looking at x870 then the Tomahawk is really the only choice because of this.
J0NNYB0@reddit
I dont know why people are downvoting you, the x870 boards pretty much all have lane sharing problems that reduce the gpu slot speed.
Tricon916@reddit
Ignorance is bliss I'm guessing. The only x870 board I'm aware of that doesn't neuter the pci lanes in anyway is the Tomahawk, which is why I recommended it. Guessing people that bought other boards don't like hearing that.
vogel7@reddit
Is this really something a normal user will notice?
Because usually it's just a bunch of dudes doing stress tests completely out of reality to say that X is better than Y.
Tricon916@reddit
Don't know why I'm getting downvoted for that, but its pretty clear it has the best setup out of any of the X870's. No PCIe lane sharing, two Gen5 NVMe's, all the diagnostic features of the more expensive boards. Its a no-brainer.
https://youtu.be/WagOqmAQ93A?si=YLptADlYyIb9CcxQ&t=611
Alternative_Fig6154@reddit
You are correct, and it’s exactly why I chose the 870 tomahawk as my board when I built my pc. Plus it has great VRMs and tons of usb ports. Future proofed for sure
Even_Clue4047@reddit
This is untrue. Some boards offer better expansion, some offer cleaner sound outputs, and critically some boards don't overheat the vrm.
MythicMoa@reddit
Depending on what you need/ if you need the expansion capabilities.
NilsTillander@reddit
True, where will I put my soundblaster!
Logical_Bit2694@reddit
i went with the b650 gaming plus wifi from MSI due to me getting a bundle with a r5 7600 pre installed on it. got it for 10 gbp cheaper
Totyanddark1@reddit
I wanna do the same so is there any issues with the pc? Slow? Lags alot in games or software?,
Logical_Bit2694@reddit
No it was a great build. I upgraded to a 9800 x3d so its even faster. But the 7600 cpu and the motherboard were great worked perfectly.
Totyanddark1@reddit
RYZEN 5 7600 MPK MB MSI Pro A620M-E RAM CRUCIAL 16G pc 5600MHZ DDR5 Lexar M2 NVME NM610 PRO 500GB
MSI GeForce RTX 3050 VENTUS 2X 6G OC Case Antec VX310 4Fan 120M ARGB+PSU Antec atome v650 total : 39650 What you think about this
The_Jyps@reddit
Does yours take ages to boot too? I got a Gigabyte Aorus and my missus got an MSI board. Hers takes significantly longer to boot.
Logical_Bit2694@reddit
That could be due to the memory training. You need to enable memory context restore in the bios and it'll be much faster
saintofhope@reddit
For my sons build: gigabyte b650m d3hp ax, reason: cheapest am5 in my region with vrm heatsink and bios flashback (130usd) For me: gigabyte aorus elite ax v2, good bang for buck in my area (200 usd) 3 nvme slots, WiFi 6e and usb-c 20gbps header and on the back, also bios flashback
BakuraRyoo@reddit
la recomiendas para una 9800x3d ?
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passey89@reddit
x870e tomahawk. Had the tomahawk from the B550 and loved it with 0 issues. Wanted the same but was upgrading to a 9950X3D and need the storage and it has the better nvme lane configuration.
4legger@reddit
B550 is great. I'm still on AM4 but plan to skip AM5 at this stage. I think I I can weather the storm for a bit longer
Bajs11@reddit
yeah same here considering how DDR5 has become prohibitively expensive and my 5700X3D doesnt bottleneck the rtx 4090 in any of the games I play
4legger@reddit
I can't believe how expensive a 5800x3d is.
passey89@reddit
I gave my B550 Tomahawk & 5700x3D to my son so its still going strong with a 9070XT & 32GB ram.
4legger@reddit
Amazing gift a dad could ever give to a child
castrator21@reddit
I just installed this board yesterday for a 9800x3d. And I had the x570 tomahawk with my 5900x (recently donated to my nephew), and it was fantastic. No complaints so far!
ilostmyiq@reddit
i want to be your neph.uwu. <3
bigkenw@reddit
I got this mobo, which is great, because Micro Center had it with a Ryzen 9 and 32gb of RAM for a good combo price. If OP has one nearby, I recommend looking at the pairings.
bananaclipz69@reddit
This is objectively the best answer in the thread. This or an ASUS TUF x870E. Avoid at all costs ASROCK; and afaik buying a b650 or b850 just leaves you not future proofed? Anyone with more knowledge feel free to correct me.
Hope this helps as someone who recently built two PC's on an x870E + 9950X3D platform.
bananaclipz69@reddit
Not sure why I'd get down voted for things that are easily googled...
https://gamersnexus.net/cpus-news/asrock-9800x3d-instability-and-failures-report-summary-so-far
bananaclipz69@reddit
Dunno why I'm being down voted. These are things you can all google.
https://gamersnexus.net/cpus-news/asrock-9800x3d-instability-and-failures-report-summary-so-far
Remster24@reddit
what’s wrong with asrock? If anything I’d be avoiding asus because of their shitty customer support
Pieface0896@reddit
Wasnt asrock burning 9000 cpus?
Remster24@reddit
Wasnt asus burning 7000 cpus?
Pieface0896@reddit
Im not sure thats why im asking. Im not dogging on asrock lol
theMEENgiant@reddit
What do the B850 boards lack that make them not "future proof"?
HighMagistrateGreef@reddit
I agree with the comment two posts up that it's a good board; but there's no such thing as 'objectively best answer' in this scenario.
Everyone will have different needs, so the optimal board will depend on their use case.
dakkottadavviss@reddit
I just got this one bc it was one of the 4 motherboards that Microcenter had for the 9800X3D bundle.
SuperLegend786@reddit
I don’t know shit about MotherBoards, but I ended up going with the MSI MPG X870e Edge Ti, cause it cost basically the same as my original choice the MSI B850 Tomahawk, I figured more money (non-sale) equals better, plus it was white which is nice.
eraserking@reddit
How has the board been for you? Was looking at this one myself. Only thing that made me cautious was people saying their PCIe for GPU would sometimes get stuck on 1.1 mode at boot. Have you encountered anything weird overall?
SuperLegend786@reddit
I did have a lot of trouble setting it up, but I’m not sure if it was because I was dumb or there was something wrong with the board. I couldn’t get it to work, so I tried all the trouble shooting ways I could, in the end I got a brand new usb to flash the bios and let is run for few minutes afterwhich it started to work. Now the main problem is I never actually let the board run for a few minutes when I first tested it, I just saw the error code and assumed something was wrong, so I’m not actually sure wether I needed to do any trouble shooting in the first place and instead just needed to let the board run for few minutes or there was something actually wrong with the board my trouble shooting (most likely flashing the bios) fixed it. Other than that I’ve personally have had no issues.
JellyRhythm@reddit
I have the ASUS B650E-Em chose it for the performance it gave for the AMD 7000 Series. and PCIe 5.0. and a decent price. No heating issues. And overall a solid board. You need plenty of clearance if you're trying to fit a 360 AIO. SO make sure the Case is wide enough. Also for ANY Asus board you get make sure you don't install "Armory Crate". Disable in the bios before proceeding to Windows Installation or booting to Windows. Armory Crate is nothing but problems.
HalbeargameZ@reddit
X870e taichi because it was discounted by $140 and also matches my gpu(9070xt taichi, which I also for discounted, brand new for ~$650 after tax), I am aware of the asrock issue, but my cpu is an early batch 9950x so should be affected by the issues and the board is on BIOS 3.30 which draws lower voltages
mordisko@reddit
What's the issue you're talking about?
i1u5@reddit
Ryzen 9000 CPUs getting bricked if you turn on XMP/EXPO (alleged by ASRock to be caused by >1.3v SOC)
HalbeargameZ@reddit
ASRock boards supply too much voltage, 10-20% of newer batch AMD 9000x3d cpus have a defect that causes them to die at a lower than intended voltage, ASRock board gets an unintended voltage spike like waking up from sleep mode or getting throttled by YouTube with advlocm on, and while supplying too much power already it overloads the cpu and kills it
neteng91@reddit
B650E Steel Legend, I wanted a board that had PCIe 5 for both the GPU and nvme as well as a good VRM for future upgrades. I am also using an thunderbolt/usb4 addon card so it has all of the same features as the newer x870 boards.
i1u5@reddit
Non E version is better.
Content-Fee-8856@reddit
Asrock b650 pro RS wifi and MSI PRO B650-S were mobos I considered for a mid-tier build I built recently. I ended up going with something from a bundle, though.
I look for good VRMs and a practical feature-set and both of those mobos were good offerings.
i1u5@reddit
Can't go wrong with the LiveMixer either, as long as you don't mind its... unique design.
Rojodojo@reddit
I ran the ASRock for the last 8 months with a 9700x undervolted and nicely overclocked and it's been fantastic.
Going to a 9800x3d/b650 tomahawk this month and passed the board and CPU on to a mate that's building his first in a decade, but another mate went with the same RS Pro Wifi/9800x3d on my recommendation and loves his setup also.
ASRock get a bad rap recently but I've never had any issues with any of their products or updates. The board is solid.
Content-Fee-8856@reddit
AFAIK there is absolutely zero risk if you are pairing b650 Asrock with a 7000series CPU.
Zayage@reddit
As someone who bought a Pro RS, I'd say you wouldn't have done bad. It's a good looking board and has done everything I needed it to with a 7800x3d, 3 NVME, and 3 SATA setup.
Only issue is that it didn't have my proprietary Corsair RGB BS header, but that's corsairs fault.
nuclearDEMIZE@reddit
I just bought the same one for the same CPU. Waiting for it to show up though. Building a mid tier microATX build
munky82@reddit
Got a 9800X3D, wanted to have a PCI-E 5 x16 slot. Don't care about WiFi (ethernet all the way) or USB4. Wanted to get B850, was looking at either the Asus TUF or Gigabyte Gaming X (Aorus Elite was also nice but oddly pricey in my market). The MSI B850 Gaming was nice, but I didn't like the P-PAK VRMs (Gigabyte and Asus was using DrMos). ASRock made me weary and at the time the only e-tailer that stocked them has a bad reputation for after sales service.
So in the end I settled on the MSI Gaming X670E. 80A SPS VRM. PCIE 5 x16 slot, but the clincher was the fourth NVME slot. The price placed it between the B850 Aorus and TUF. Also lots more USB A ports than any of the B850s.
ManOfTheForest@reddit (OP)
Got the same board, went through some B850s as well. Like you, I don't care for wifi 7 or usb 4.
All B850s are pricier than MSI x670e in my market.
I find all the lane sharing between M2 and PCIe annoying in the 800 series boards e.g. 4 m2 slots theoretically but realistically you cannot use all as they share with usb4 or PCIe slot.
B850 aorus is more expensive, has 10 Gbps usb c (X670e has 20 Gbps), only 2 usb 3.2x2 ports (x670e has 3).
B850 tuf has some of this annoying lane sharing with m2 with 3 m2 ports.
etc. etc.
From what I could find, SPS VRM is superior to DrMos.
munky82@reddit
I went yesterday on one of my favourite etailers' website, noticed the Asus TUF X870 fell within my old price window, started getting buyer's remorse...until I saw that they share an M2 slot with the main PCIe graphics port!!! WTH, don't touch that one, that is just bad design.
ManOfTheForest@reddit (OP)
I realised how much I was overthinking things when choosing mobo, when I saw how much usb4 and wifi7 cards cost.
Battler1445@reddit
I got ROG Strix B650A plus WiFi.
Didn’t know back then that I was getting a lower end board. It is nevertheless very high quality and has served me well so far.
ServesYouRice@reddit
B650 pg lightning or riptide, one of those for 7600 because they had decent reviews at fair price point
Mjgreenthumb@reddit
Msi x870e carbon, Msi has always done me solid no issues, ever.
Catscratchfever92@reddit
I went with an asrock b650 pg lightning
kidsparks@reddit
I went with the b850 Aorus elite ice, I wanted a white motherboard that could take 2 m.2 drives without sharing bandwidth with the primary GPU slot and I also needed the SPDIF output for my headphones.
hanari1@reddit
B850M Riptide wifi
I need the PCIE on the first slot and need wifi. Simple as that.
And it was the same price with other B650Ms. I really wanted MSI MAG Mortar B850M, but I can't find it on my country, will import from China in a couple weeks for sure, since I want to upgrade from 9600X to 9800X3D.
sicknick08@reddit
ASUS tuf x870 because all Ryzen 9000 features straight out the box no fiddling to get everything working.
mikoexcl@reddit
Gigabyte B650M S2H. It cost me something like 75€ brand new.
Key-Coconut4817@reddit
MSI x870e carbon wifi with the 9800x3D and CL30 DDR5 Ram@6000 mhz. SOLID No problems have ahd it for over a month. Easiest DIY build EVER!
jopemoro@reddit
Have you had any issues with lane sharing between the gpu and the 2nd (I think) M2 slot?
Key-Coconut4817@reddit
Noo none read the reviews. Its a very easy work around. And your average user isn't using more then 2 ssds. Juss gotta set it up correctly.
jopemoro@reddit
Can you share where they might explain the correct setup? Tx! :)
ArcticWolf_Primaris@reddit
MSI B850-P WiFi, so I had PCIE 5 and a board that wouldn't melt my cpu
Correx96@reddit
I got an asus prime b650m-a wifi 2 because when I built it was a good price and it is microATX. I didn't want a big case, so that was a nice choice.
Zealousideal-Tear248@reddit
Asus TUF b650m-e wifi. It was the best priced b650 mobo with wifi, that also has good VRM
Even_Clue4047@reddit
X870 Strix A, just wanted to try the highest peforming ALC4080 sound chip implementation. Otherwise would've gone for a b850 tuf or cheaper
psychophoenx@reddit
MSI MAG Tomahawk x870e That little 'e' is important. It's a HW revision to the pcieX lanes. That said, it is a most wicked board. Solidly built with great features, a little cluttered without an AIO but manageable. Plus, if you register, you will talk to a human with real knowledge when you call tech support. (Have had many msi products over the years. Good stuff!)
blyrone_blashington@reddit
Got a really solid deal on a bundle with a x870, no e. How important is that revision on the pciex lanes?
psychophoenx@reddit
Depends on how many PCIe cards you're using and the number of NvME drives you're using. They pulled a fast one on that model and split the memory bus for some of them. Not a big deal if you're dealing with one drive and a GPU, I don't think... but for peace of mind I choose the 'e'.
blyrone_blashington@reddit
Unfortunately I'll be using either 3 or 4 nvme drives.. I'm kinda assuming with pcie 5 and a 5070 ti I still won't see a performance hit but man what a load of bullshit lol.
The way its misrepresented to the consumer is crazy, the average person would never think this is how a motherboard actually works.
psychophoenx@reddit
The x870 is a fine chipset, but of course, there are always better options, lol I agree about the misrepresentation. I had to relearn what half that stuff meant (it had been a while) for this build JUST to suss out which revision to buy. That said, I have one drive and one card ATM, so it doesn't matter AT ALL!
Ludicrits@reddit
Msi x670e tomahawk wifi.
Came with my bundle. Love it. Have no need for x870.
HopefulPickle5@reddit
MSI pro b650m coz it was the cheapest I found
Usual_Race3974@reddit
I went with the newegg bundle and chose the x870 with 40gbps usb 4.
I figured that is a future proof feature
Pun_In_Ten_Did@reddit
ROG Strix B650E-F... it was part of the bundle 😁
That mobo, Ryzen 7900X cpu, 32GB DDR5-6000 RAM, and Star Wars Jedi Survivor - $600 bundle.
Advanced-Set1203@reddit
Thats my setup right there.🔥🔥🔥
Advanced-Set1203@reddit
I went with the ROG 670E MB and a 7900X cpu. Its what I could afford at the time. I paid under $425 for both.
CryptographerDue4649@reddit
B650 eagle ax. It works.
Firm_Transportation3@reddit
Same here. It does, in fact, work.
itsforathing@reddit
I also have that. It’s a basic b650 board with enough bells and whistles to keep the average joe happy.
PetalSpent@reddit
Same
Dwayne_Shrok_Johnson@reddit
B650m Project Zero just because i wanted to build a PC with the cool back connect motherboards.
SunPsychological1147@reddit
Tuf x870 plus wifi. Had an extra m.2, usbc, more usba, etc. Wanted it for my upgrade to 9800x3d
SpiffyDodger@reddit
I have an MSI B650m gaming plus. I bought it as it has solid VRM power delivery and cooling for the price, and that was a key feature for me.
I wouldn't buy it again though, the MSI BIOS is atrocious, and I have constant issues with the RGB controller both shutting off entirely and not accurately representing colours.
Honestly I'd probably steer clear of MSI entirely from now on. This is the second board I've had issues with over the last few years.
I'd recommend asrock or gigabyte instead.
airmantharp@reddit
ASRock X870E Nova
excts@reddit
Gigabyte B650E Stealth Ice because I wanted that clean look. Works perfectly with my 9950x3D after a bios update
Laki_Evo@reddit
A board from Chinese manufacturer Colorful - Colorful CVN Frozen V14. Reason- budget white board which also has pcie5 gpu support. For my budget i could only get A620 or B650m motherboard boards which don't have pcie5 and wifi. My board has both of them.
Ok-Value-744@reddit
Gigabyte Arous Elite WIFI7 as it was lowest on price with wifi7
croix_de_guerre@reddit
Asrock for my 9800x3d because i like to live my life on the edge (It was the cheapest mobo and didnt knew the issue before)
netbeans@reddit
B650 EAGLE: cheapest board with a PCIe 5 NVMe.
Extreme996@reddit
I have a 9800X3D and MSI B650 Gaming Plus. I had a Z370 Gaming Plus in my previous PC and it worked fine, so I decided to buy the AM5 equivalent and it works fine too.
Zz2zZz2zZz2z@reddit
Did you need to update the bios for 9000 series ryzen?
Extreme996@reddit
If your B650 has a Ryzen 9000 compatible sticker on the box, then no. If it doesn't, then yes, but you can use a BIOS flashback to update it without other compatible CPU. I would still update it, though, because if it shipped with a Ryzen 9000-compatible BIOS, it's likely the first version in which support was added. If your B650 have old BIOS but its compatible with 9800X3D just use M-flash option instead flashback.
marnjuana@reddit
Not op, but it did for my MSI x670e with the same cpu
wazzirr@reddit
Gigabyte B650E AORUS ELITE X AX ICE. PCIe 5.0, 2,5GbE LAN, 3x M.2 with quick release, debug LEDs. And it looks great 😏
thpp999@reddit
I like MSI so I got the MSI gaming something. No reason for a gaming rig to go anything other than b650. Don't get the cheapest one, a board needs some solid vrms. As long as a board doesn't have problems and the connectivity you want then you are fine.
BobLighthouse@reddit
I went with a b850 for the price/features.
I do not need USB4 so I avoided 870 boards.
This sheet was very helpful:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit?pli=1&gid=454171143#gid=454171143
UnsaidRnD@reddit
WHAT ? this is majestic
btw I have an older M2 (m+b key, Sata , but M2 format) ssd drive that i am fine with, 480gb , and my motherboard allowed me to install it, but did not recognize it in bios. I had to get an adapter.
I think, neither the official specs on the site, nor this spreadsheet, really help people realize it before the purchase is made. I got an B850 msi gaming plus wifi
Vegetable-Score-3915@reddit
Thank you for sharing this!
ManOfTheForest@reddit (OP)
This spreadsheet was so incredibly useful when I was researching. I expanded it by giving weights to things that mattered to me (e.g. number of usb ports, m2 slots, bifurcation etc.) and calculated the total score. Added price into the mix and chose what was at the top of the list, in my case MSI X670E gaming plus wifi.
UnsaidRnD@reddit
I went with MSI B850 Gaming Plus Wifi
Why? Not the most expensive. Available in my region. I want an upgrade down the line - a cpu with more cores of the latest model line to be released for the AM5 platform before its support stops.
I just felt like b850>b650 in this regard, but maybe i'm wrong.
I also wanted the latest pciex port type, version 5.0 , again for upradability - I have an RTX3070 which will serve me just fine up until I decide to get something that runs a AAA game I care about significantly better.
I also want relatively many storage connection ports, I am using 3x sata and 1 nvme m2
I am using a wired connection now, but later if I'm not that into competitive gaming I could prolly do with this built-in wifi antenna, so that's cool.
Everything else just seemed unimportant, like the design is fine but w/e
avaling89@reddit
I chose the B650 Tomahawk because it had good BIOS, sturdy VRMs, and enough future proofing without the X670 price tag.
L3monPi3@reddit
https://youtu.be/CwY_e3Sv8hU?si=RTKBOeoMN8g5zRRA
LordBoomDiddly@reddit
What are you using it for?
Because that then depends on the type of board you get
NilsTillander@reddit
Whichever x#70 is the cheapest. I mostly build "consumer workstations" with #950X and 128GB of RAM, with a 2TB M2 for the system and 4TB of M2 scratch disk, so I like the more capable boards.
Phredness@reddit
I came across a used computer with a B650 MSI Gaming WiFi and a Ryzen 5 7600 for a good price.
Seems to be working so far.
rainbowclownpenis69@reddit
Asus ProArt X670E
Gorgeous board, no silly RGB, ports for days, 10Gb LAN + 2.5Gb LAN. Board has been stable and reliable. Using rated RAM timings makes every restart take AGES.
I got my son the MSI MAG MORTAR 650M. Boots way faster. Far fewer ports. Only 2.5Gb LAN.
Lopsided-Praline-831@reddit
X670 gigabyte aorus master..im familiar with the bios previous am4 was x570 master..
MrBill_-_AlephNull@reddit
im looking asrock b650m-hdv/m.2 because apparently its got decent vrm quality
terriblestperson@reddit
It's harder to get at a good price than it used to be, but if you find it at a good price it's a nice board. Not a lot of boards offer PCIE 4.0 x16, PCIE 4.0 x4, and PCIE 5.0 NVME. The audio sucks but you can fix that with a DAC. Even an apple dongle is an upgrade over the onboard audio.
necomus@reddit
I got a Gigabyte B650 Eagle because I didn’t know any better and it was my first PC build. It’s a good board and gets the job done but it has a weak ARGB controller so I had to install a Nollie. I choose it because it was compatible and cheap. :)
Irinescence@reddit
Asus TUF b650m plus wifi.
It was part of a microcenter bundle, inexpensive but not cheap, had lots of ports and pcie 5. And I have good memories of building on an Asus p2b a long time ago.
Didn't realize at the time its gpu slot was one slot lower than many matx boards but for my build it's fine. Working great, no problems at all.
Arbiter02@reddit
MSI X870E-P Pro. Shit ton of features at an affordable price, got mine open box from Microcenter.
bumbumsoldat@reddit
I got an msi mag b650 tomahawk wifi at a steal discount on amazon during the prime days deal. Highly recommend. Super modular. Most space ive had on a mobo yet, all slots were easy to configure including cable direction. Not to mention that most AIOs or quality fans require aftermarket adjustment to the cpu brackets for additional cooling or heatsinks. With any msi board its gonna be a good price to quality ratio with easy customization access until they inevitably get outbidded in the corpo wars.
DianKali@reddit
B650 tomahawk - has every I want / need for pretty cheap. Good audio chipset, 2 SSD slot that don't run of the chipset and WLAN.
7700 - pretty much same gaming performance as 7700x or 9700x but for just 200 bucks at the time. At 1440p with a 9070xt I wouldn't get any advantage of getting an x3d for at the time 450+, 7700 will do the trick until last am5 generation at the very least.
songerph@reddit
Asrock B650 PG Riptide Wifi with 7800X3D
HatefulAbandon@reddit
MSI X870 Tomahawk WiFi because back when I bought the X870E didn’t exist and it is one of the only (if not the only) X870 board that lets you fully allocate Gen 5 PCIe lanes to M.2 via a BIOS switch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gJn7DgqSNBA
Budget_Amoeba1458@reddit
Msi b650m gaming plus wifi i choosed this because I can only afford this 😭
_gabber_@reddit
B650 Aorus Elite AX
Aorus boards are known to be reliable, and have some of the best VRM for the price. 12 power phases while most competitors with the same price have 8-10, and robust VRM heatsink to keep the temps in the 60C range vs. 80+ and even 100C on mATX boards.
power phases should come as a second consideration after connectability. Is it overkill to get 12 phases for an 8-core chip? yes, but the whole reason for someone to buy AM5 is longevity. You want your board to be able to handle upgrades.
1) choose chipset
2) look for connectability that you want/need
3) choose best VRM in the price range you can afford
This is how I choose my boards
AugmentedKing@reddit
X670E Asus Crosshair Gene, it was the only X chip mATX board at the time.
The_soulprophet@reddit
Asrock x870e NOVA. Had a z790 NOVA that was awesome and all the reviews said this was the board to get.
I would not buy this board or any Asrock AM5 motherboard if you’re going with a 9000 series chip.
terriblestperson@reddit
Not a lot of reports of deaths on B650.
Of course, B650 boards are harder to get a reasonable price now.
terriblestperson@reddit
B650M-HDV/M.2, because I got it under $100 open box.
Someone bought it and thought the wifi chip was missing.
PotatoSilence@reddit
I got the asus prime series. I had the am4 version and never had problems so I figured I’d give this one a shot too.
Impressive_Most9204@reddit
i got the 7600x3d because it was in a prebuilt i liked.
Sea_Network_7784@reddit
The a620m is recommended for a ryzen 8 8500g
UgotR0BBED@reddit
Gigabyte Aorus Elite x670E, picked it up for $210 open box at Micro center. Had the features I needed PCIE 5.0, 4x m.2 including gen 5, WiFi 6E.
All of my research pointed towards a good 670E being basically the same as 870
MetaNightmare@reddit
ROG Strix B850A because it was in stock at the Best Buy where I bought everything.
boyseven777@reddit
Maxsun B650i, cheapest itx board that I won’t worry running 7800x3d on
ioiplaytations2@reddit
I like simplicity. I go itx board because I only want to ever use 2 ram sticks, only need 1 m.2 SSD slot, 1 pcie slot for GPU. Thats it. Don't need more slots than that. I like the look of a complete computer (all slots being used). Also want wifi. asrock b850i lightning wifi fits that bill for me, although it's a bit pricey at 200 bucks.
schaden81@reddit
Gigabyte Eagle B650. It's the best mid priced board with decent power delivery in the price range I wanted.
WasabiSyn@reddit
Asus Prime X670e-Pro WiFi. It has everything I need.
blank_dota2@reddit
Asus X870-A Gaming WiFi for my gaming rig
For my workstation: MSI X870E Carbon WiFi
For my server: Gigabyte X870 AORUS Elite
Very happy with all of them EXCEPT the Asus for how awful Armory Crate has been. Literally ate nearly 30% CPU to do RGB static. I disabled it in bios and enabled Windows dynamic from there, cpu usage is now 6% for same lightening effects from windows.
Also if you care about expo gigabyte still is a PITA for it compared to Asus and MSI.
PervertedPineapple@reddit
ASUS ROG ITX for USB4 in my travel rig. Move large files across devices.
MSI Edge TI for USB4, lots of USB, minimal pcie lanes sharing (only between 1 m.2 and USB4 ports), and it matches my Suprim coincidentally. The biggest reason was I got it for cheap. (Combo of sales and gift cards bringing it <50%) Although I should probably test it with my travel CPU instead of letting it sit. Dont have much left on return period.
Brother, for his bday, picked up the MSI Pro for plenty of USB and aesthetics.
My other brother might pick up a a Gigabyte but it depends on how he wants to build his next rig.
Aztaloth@reddit
MSI X870E Carbon.
I needed a lot of USB connectivity and NVME slots. Unfortunately it doesn't also have 10G Ethernet which I needed but it does have a free x4 slot so that was an easy fix.
Trumppbuh@reddit
I went with a b650m pro rs wifi because it had the most reviews on Newegg. And then later I found the hardware unboxed vid that told me I didn't do as bad as I could have. There is some cool wine tho
canskyline137@reddit
JGINYUE B650-I Night Devil. I paired it with a 9800x3d (I know, questionable choice)
Reasons: ITX build, USB-C IO, USB-C port, Wifi, premium build quality and most importantly 73€ shipped
My only complaint is not being able to run my cl28 6000mhz dual rank 2x 32gb kit. Probably doesn't help that it's dual rank.. ram costs multiplications of how much I spent on the motherboard new.
nuhverguy@reddit
TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI - very nice
robikasztar@reddit
I have the B650-M version of that. With a BIOS update I have also received PCIe gen 5 support, so cannot really complain!
Onslaught_Dom@reddit
Exactly that!!
xjuanjcg@reddit
MSI TOMAHAWK B650 o X870
piggymoo66@reddit
I have the asrock B850 livemixer for the rear I/O and good price. I have a lot of peripherals.
Grat_Master@reddit
Asrock B650M-HDV M.2
Why?
Because cheapest with decent vrm. It runs my 9800x3d and 64gb of ram perfectly.
tonmc03@reddit
B850M, Asrock Steel Legend. Most decent white mobo (I have a white build) for me, at a good price in my country.
Sutlore@reddit
I bought it a few months after the release. I did choose Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite because the availability at the time.
Withinmyrange@reddit
Any of them will work fine. Choose the cheapest B650 board
personally, I got a B850 aorus ice because its the only mobo that's truly all white
HitscanDPS@reddit
ASRock X870E Nova. I like how it has a ton of M2 slots and I don't have to worry about any shared bandwidth issues. Afaik it is the only AM5 board with this configurationi.
ppedropaulo@reddit
Im on the same boat. Need a good mobo for my 9800x3d Any recomendation for a B séries board with good vrm?
AffectionateAd7651@reddit
GB. Aorus X870E. I thought it looked cool and had a counter.
AlfaHotelWhiskey@reddit
Microcenter bundle w Ryzen 7700x and MSI B650 Pro WiFi
MaxPerin@reddit
X670E Gene, it is an objectively stupid purchase but watching number go up very high when memory overclocking is quite fun
CatDad1990@reddit
Gigabyte B850 WiFi 7. I use all the USB slots and it has non-shared M2 lanes (one is gen 5).
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
Don't be scared getting a cheap board. Back in the day, the better and more expensive boards gave you better performance, at least better overclocking performance. Today they perform more or less the same, and overclocking isn't really a thing for normal enthusiasts any more. Not worth the trouble to get 2% more performance.
Go with the cheapest board that has the features you want. Need Wifi? Need 2.5 gig Ethernet? Need 4 NVME SSD's instead of just 3?
Gta6MePleaseBrigade@reddit
I got top of the line rog strix
Why? First thing I saw lol
960be6dde311@reddit
I went with the Gigabyte Aorus B650E Elite X AX ICE + Ryzen 9 9950X. I bought the motherboard because it's White and matched the Corsair case I bought for the build. I currently have a black NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, but will probably get a White RTX 5090 eventually.
I also looked at the chipset differences on Wikipedia, and decided the B650E is probably the right one for me, based on the various capabilities.
Plane-Produce-7820@reddit
The cheapest one with 3 x m.2
Judasbot@reddit
I chose an Asus B650E Max Gaming. Mostly because I like Asus, I was looking for a white board, and it supports PCIe 5 m.2 drives.
Plenty-Industries@reddit
Unless there are specific features you need, the average PC enjoyer is going to be fine with B650/850 boards.
As an early adopter of AM5, I had no choice but to get X670E-E at $450.
Meanwhile a year later, i built a 7800X3D rig for my brother and his MSI B650 has been doing just fine.
BeerExchange@reddit
ASRock B650M pro RS WiFi. Affordable and looks solid. My first build and it was very easy to understand how to install and flashback the bios
imthe5thking@reddit
Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite
ItHurtzWhenIPee@reddit
NZXT N7 B650E
Because I'm a sucker for esthetics
MuffinCrow@reddit
ASUS ROG Strix B850-A Gaming WiFi purely because of the amount of USB ports, its white (i made an all white build), and it had a good amount of m.2 slots.
TidalLion@reddit
Just went to ITX and used a Gigabyte B850I Aorus Pro. Has 2 M.2 slots (front and back). I can use all 4 of my storage drives and it has no active RGB
Joy-Ent@reddit
Gigabyte B650 aorus elite ax v2
Has all the features I need and was on the more affordable end on my budget. (Sleek looking for my clean build, has wifi, enough USB ports, good heatsinks and good vrm)
beermoneymike@reddit
ASRock A620i for my budget sff HTPC build
OneRobuk@reddit
MSI pro b650s wifi. all my requirements were that it had to have wifi and be from a brand I recognized. then I just got the cheapest one. definitely go to pcpartpicker to find it because they'll only show you ones compatible with other parts you've chosen
cdogclary1305@reddit
An Asus TUF b650m plus wifi and i got it because it came with my CPU at microcenter
Roman64s@reddit
I got the ASRock X670E Pro RS. It was very feature rich without breaking the bank for me, PCIe 5.0, plenty of rear IO, not a lot of RGB, decent VRM for future upgrades.
ImpossibleCoffee911@reddit
cheapest one with wifi/bluetooth preinstalled. could save a few buckerinos by adding the card yourself
ChocolateNeat4489@reddit
Gigabyte B650 Elite ax V2 ... because it was cheaper than the majority of competitors, had reasonable vrm setup, came with an extra cashback offer and had the most extensive memory compatibility list (ordered cheap Kingbank ram in China). Used to buy Tomahawks but MSI asked a bit too much this time (£40 more expensive and £130 more than I paid for their B450 board). I'm quite happy with my choice, and it works well.
travelavatar@reddit
I would check hardware unboxed. I would search a video where Steve/Tim look like they haven't slept in ages complains about testing all AM5 motherboards.
Then i will choose one based on their wisdom.
Brawndo_or_Water@reddit
I've 3 rigs on AMD. One with the Strix (9800X3d), one with MSI MPG Carbon X870e (9800X3D), and one with the Crosshair Hero x870 (9950x3d)
Unless you really want to be in the Asus ecosystem, I would recommend the MSI Carbon. This way you can avoid Armoury crate.
J_L_D@reddit
Went with the msi x870-pro wifi because aesthetics mainly.
Own-Combination-723@reddit
Pcie 5.0 with good VRMs, that is not Asrock or Asus and doesn't have lane sharing. Gigabyte B850 Auros Elite Wifi7.
Unfortunately, the MSI B850 Mag Tomahawk went on sale shortly after I bought Auros Elite...
taxfreetendies@reddit
AM5 Boards these days are so similar that most of them just vary based on how many USB ports and what type they have. The bigger changes involve PCI lanes and wifi vs no wifi.
In the end its more about what manufacturer you trust the most and whether or not you need the extra ports and lanes. And then your budget.
I got Asus Prime X670E-Pro Wifi for $230 at the time.
eastwood352@reddit
Asus rog strix b650e-f gaming I got it because it's what I got in the microcenter bundle. It's been great with no issues.
busbybob@reddit
B650e-i rog strix. Pcie gen 5 support.
It's at home, I'll be doing the coil whine gauntlet when I get back from holiday
Dubbadubbawubwub@reddit
I bought one of these recently, no coil whine at all. It may only be a problem with older boards or older bios versions, or I got lucky.
UrbanFuturistic@reddit
ASRock B650 Steel Legend WiFi. I chose it primarily because my B550M Steel Legend was a really good board, and the price was right for the feature set.
Schnitzel725@reddit
Gigabyte Aorus Elite X870E. I wanted the extra m.2 slots for future more storage. This was the only mobo I could find within this price range with a decent number of usb ports while other X870/E boards had a lot less. The minimal/lack of rgb was also a big plus.
Tbh nothing I do really justifies needing a X870/E vs a cheaper B850 buuuuut when the store sold this board at almost a B850 price and only +$10 vs a X870 non E, why not.
Intrepid_Body_8191@reddit
B650i for my sff case
XramLou@reddit
B650 eagle ax by gigabyte
chipotlebowlenjoyer@reddit
I YouTube searched motherboards for AM5 with the bedt temperatures/VRM and picked the one of the top ones that I liked the look of.
Poet-Most@reddit
I got the cheapest I could. Mobo only really open up at the higher end
fullmetal2405@reddit
Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2
That was the one that came with the Micro Center bundle for the CPU I wanted.
ZeroPaladn@reddit
Gigabyte B850M AORUS ICE WIFI6E
Checked the boxes: mATX, white, sufficient rear USB, gpu quick release.
vaurapung@reddit
I got the asus b650 tuf gaming. My ordered gigabyte b650 aurous elite was doa. After returns I got an upgraded cpu, cooler and equivalent ram from microcenter for about 70 dollars less.
Amazon, about 480 for a 7600, mobo, and silicone power ram.
Microcenter then, 408 dollars for 7600x3d, mobo, peerless 120 cooler, x5 flare ram. And a light up ball for the kid.
BlueBladerX@reddit
ASUS ROG Strix X670E-A Gaming WiFi, clean white motherboard with modern features and has a ton of usbs. It had a lot of bad reviews at launch for bios issues but the majority of them have been ironed out which makes it a pretty good motherboard nowadays. Just make sure to do your research on updating it beforehand.
cinematea@reddit
MSI X870 tomahawk - 9800x3D - RTX4090
Researched. Landed on this combo. Fantastic performance. And Quality.
Happy_Somewhere_8467@reddit
What was confusing about it? I just finished building a new PC a couple days ago. I utilized the ASRock B650 Pro. found it to be one of the easiest boards and CPU to install, including the aftermarket Peerless Assassin heatsink. It was my first time using m.2 sockets though, so that was interesting. Those things are tiny, but works so fast. Windows boots in like 1-2 seconds.
diffraa@reddit
Gigabyte B650M-ds3h
Why?
I saw the guy at microcenter stocking the open box shelf and it was like 50% off
meta_voyager7@reddit
msi b850 wifi plus. needed wifi 7
Keljian52@reddit
Msi x670e gaming plus wifi. Low cost, lots of usb, pcie 5.0 on the nvme slot. Stable
bokimaricu@reddit
B850M Aorus Elite Wifi6E with 9800x3d and 32gb cl30. I've got a Meshify C Mini which I upgraded so there are no x870 boards for micro atx. Not that I need one.
danmo78@reddit
I bought the b650a cause microcenter had a bundle with the 7800x3d so this probably won't help ya. Sorry, but hey, have a nice day!
secretagentstv@reddit
A B850 board is what you should get. If you are budget constrained, a B650 or B650E would be quite fine.
A B850 is basically the same as a B650 but with PCIE 5.0.
Santeezy602@reddit
B650e has pcie 5.0
secretagentstv@reddit
This is true.
ime1em@reddit
MSI MPG x670e. Because I want 6 SATA port, PCIe 5, and dedicated audio jacks.
Atomzwieback@reddit
Whatever you buy do not buy the asrock x670e pg lightning. Driver are shit, ethernet is unstable
PotatoBreadDad@reddit
Asus rog strix b650e-f, it was grossly cheap and i wanted the rgb headers lol but i could've gone with the X670E-PLUS TUF Gaming but no buyers remorse yet
Dry_Instruction9821@reddit
Asus Strix X870 A had enough M.2s looked sick and has a mega crap load of USB ports
Apple_phobia@reddit
Asrock B650I Lightning WiFi because my pc is small form factor and this was the cheapest available
9okm@reddit
X870 Tomahawk
lmpcpedz@reddit
GIGABYTE B650 AORUS becuase a year ago it was B550M AORUS Elite for AM4. Never had an issue with Gigabyte mobos. MSI would be my second choice, I've owned one before and pretty solid. Gigabyte was the first MOBO for my very first build almost 20 years ago.
kabob95@reddit
MSI Mag B650m Mortar as it was the one at the time included by default in the microcenter bundle I bought. Plus I was already in a mATX case.
TheKitler@reddit
Depends which CPU you're getting and which features you need in a board (m.2 slots, ethernet speed, size, wifi, etc)
sob727@reddit
Asus ProArt for the dual 10/2.5 NIC
HydraX9K@reddit
I have a MSI B850 Tomahawk MAX WiFi because previously I had a B550 Tomahawk Max Wifi and it was really good on AM4, so I thought the B850 version would be even better
CtrlAltDesolate@reddit
B650 - because even a 12c/24t, 64gb ram, 20gb vram system gets no real benefit from the B850. I'm doing very heavy music production workloads, stable diffusion, 1440p RT gaming... none of those are being held back.
Unless you're getting a 5090 at some stage, or need highest possible speed storage, B650 is enough.
soporificgaur@reddit
ASROCK B650I LIGHTNING, cheapest ITX board I could find at microcenter.
SillyLilBear@reddit
x870e Auros Elite.
Because I didn't want to spend $600+ on an motherboard but I didn't want any compromise for my 9950X3D
Zoopa8@reddit
PCPartPicker > Motherboard > Mini ITX > Cheapest
I believe I ended up with the ASRock A620I Lightning Wi-Fi. It was around 150 euros at the time. There were only like four options when AM5 was first released, and the second cheapest was like 250 or 300 euros.
jhenryscott@reddit
As rock steel legend x870. I liked the layout and the offerings. Theirs been some issues with them but I haven’t had any problems
rocketstopya@reddit
ASRock A620M-HDV/M.2+ ; it was the cheapest.
KillEvilThings@reddit
B850. PCIE 5.0 and has all the ports I could ever need.
_ELYSANDER_@reddit
B850 tomahawk max wifi
I like the USB numbers, the wifi 7, the ethernet 5G.
XWasTheProblem@reddit
Asrock B650E PG Riptide WiFi
Pretty solid, works fine, plenty ofg slots for everything.
Santeezy602@reddit
I look up price, then look at temps for mobos in that price range and go from there. I got a b650 tomahawk on my main rig. I liked the all black look. Also got it on sale. I got another rig w a msi pro b650-p wifi got it on sale as well lol. They've been pretty solid aside from some weird bios issues early in am5 on the tomahawk. The pro has a way faster boot time for whatever reason.
B650 is good for most people I'd just focus on that.
Archimedley@reddit
X870 tomahawk
Has pretty much all the aam5 features I want and has enough usb ports and b850 wasn't a thing yet / didn't think it'd get pcie gen5 on most boards, even though I didn't really thing that's make a big difference, I wanted it
_RM78@reddit
MSI B850 EDGE Ti WIFI. Zero regrets.
dsinsti@reddit
B650 tomahawk wifi. It was on discount, but pcie 5 I really miss albeit some people report it recognising it... Go figure