‘You’re Literally Brainwashed’: Jewish-School Students Speak Out
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outestiers@reddit
Religious schools that brainwash people into joining a terrorist organization abroad. But somehow this is not only tolerated, it's actually encouraged by our governments.
YourphobiaMyfetish@reddit
What I've come to believe is that the message many in the anglo-Americas is that the Nazis were bad because they targeted Jewish people. My US history education in Mississippi was basically the revolutionary war, skip to WWII. The end.
Yet somehow, our education of these events are also so surface level that many Americans only know 2 things about Hitler: he killed Jewish people and he was evil. No concept of how or why he targeted Jewish people so they cant see when the same ideology is applied to others.
NavyDean@reddit
WW2 happened and the holocaust was one of the top 10 genocides of the world.
Zionists didn't get a chance to look at American democracy.
Zionists emulated what they saw, and what they saw was a Nazi regime.
So they conducted terror attacks and patterns of violence/hate similar to the early Nazi days and then they got themselves a nation through violence.
Why would anyone expect people who were heavily abused, to do anything than turn out exactly like their abuser?
ViolentBeetle@reddit
You mean the one with the segregation, built on repeatedly breaking treaties with the native population and stealing their land until only tiny impoverished pockets remained? That democracy?
One might say they learned quite well from it.
NavyDean@reddit
Unlike America.
Jewish people were already living in peace in Israel.
The violence introduced by Zionists, caused massive amounts of deaths in the native Jewosh population.
Now it is mostly European Jewish people who live in Israel, and the skin cancer rates are 1000% higher than the natives of the region.
Em3107@reddit
1929 Hebron massacre of indigenous Jews by Arabs 19 years before Israel. No they weren’t living in peace and Israel’s emergence is what protected the Jews finally and made sure they no longer remain victims.
Also, the majority of Israelis are Mizrahi.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Wow, Israelis pushing out the arabs since their arrival and terrorising them doesn’t count I guess eh?
protomenace@reddit
Your last sentence is a malicious lie.
NavyDean@reddit
Calling a cancer statistic a lie when it can be found in 5 seconds online and is even plastered all over reddit, including dataisbeautiful, is the act of a propagandist or a bot. Which are you?
protomenace@reddit
This is the lie.
DonutUpset5717@reddit
This is false.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel?wprov=sfla1
WlmWilberforce@reddit
Weird. I grew up in the south as did my kids (though not MS). A lot of my history classes were about slavery. My kid's even more. Your school sounds like an outlier (at least I hope it is).
ObamaStoleMyEggos@reddit
Kinda reflects what I’ve heard from family members who went to public schools in MS during 60s-80s. One thing he might be omitting though is most kids absolutely despise history class and the information was presented, but was so glossed over that people decided it’s not important. A lot of southern history teachers are dudes who think that all of history is very boring until the US shows up and starts kicking ass, so history class basically becomes pro military propaganda because the teachers get hard ons talking about WW2
LiberalAspergers@reddit
No, MS is an outlier. Sadly.
Exostrike@reddit
I do feel like pop history is too focused on the Holocaust (kristallnacht to the final solution) and not on the path to it. Partly because it can't be packaged into a simple story that can be hung around Hitler's neck. It's a pity as it covers a fascinating blend of history, politics, economics, and philosophy.
It also draws worrying comparisons to how the western world is treating minorities such as Muslims.
DracoLunaris@reddit
Or all the other groups that where also concentration camped to death. Like, just, an absolute shit tone of slavs and, depending on how you count em, debatably more Soviets than Jews.
Michael_Gibb@reddit
Maybe they don't teach the history leading up to the Holocaust, because they know it would directly implicate their beloved Christian religion in one of the worst crimes in human history.
You can't teach why Jew-hatred was so strong in Germany without mentioning Martin Luther, the father of Protestant Christianity.
icyserene@reddit
Tbh it sounds like your school just sucked
S-Kenset@reddit
so called free thinkers when there's a chance to victim blame
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
My favorite part of all this is how many of the pro genocide zionist accounts that defend Israel’s crimes like to talk about how Palestinians are taught from a young age to hate.
Everything they say and do is projection, it’s actually insane to anyone outside this cult.
DorkHarshly@reddit
Both can be true. This is not zero sum...
Not sure if I self define as progenocidal, but I do self define as zionist (as I believe that jews have the right to self determination in israel - borders discussion aside as i am flexible on that)...
We have seen a fair share of child soldiers, textbooks that paint jews (not even israelis) in a bad light, kids chanting death to the jews etc, not only in palestinian schools but also in unwra supported facilities. This has been happening for decades.
Of course this happens in israel as well. You wont see this in mainstream schools but religious schools esp in settler centric communities, pump similar content.
There are some people who benefit of violence on both sides. They will keep pumping hatred and try to sabotage any hope for peace.
TinyFlamingo2147@reddit
The final solution and Nazism are a bit extreme, but you do support Hitler's plan for lebensraum?
DorkHarshly@reddit
Could do false equivalence literally for every country, including Trinidad and Tobago. How about we stay on the subject, instead of bulshitting
the_art_of_the_taco@reddit
Apparently it's been happening in israel for decades too.
DorkHarshly@reddit
Yep as I said, both sides being indoctrinated.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Only one side is actively committing a genocide for decades though
SRGsergan592@reddit
Like the fully intact without any scratch copy of "Mein Kumf" the IDF said they found in a bombed kid bedroom in Gaza.
DorkHarshly@reddit
Is your point that there is no palestinian indoctrination?
Thats easy to disprove
https://youtu.be/7NfHKyUexe0?si=Qi2IY7aJVUm_488g
Or that one single event was fake? In which case the burden of proof is on you.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Excuse me if kids are being taught that they are being actively genocided and encroached on isn’t as bad as kids in NA and Europe being taught its ok to move to Israel and commit said genocide 🤷🏻♂️
SRGsergan592@reddit
Me when my only proof is a rabid Zionist shouting on T.V.
DorkHarshly@reddit
Turn off the sound and see the footage.
DonutUpset5717@reddit
Ok, let's not pretend that it's entirely bullshit.
UN Teachers Call To Murder Jews, Reveals New Report - UN Watch https://share.google/44vtXLuewOn3z7CSD
SRGsergan592@reddit
Oh look Un watch the Israeli organisation that is calling everyone in the U.N and the ICG is Hamas.
DonutUpset5717@reddit
You are literally doing the same thing. There is plenty of evidence that schools in Gaza were peddling hate, but who gives a fuck it's not like it justifies any of Israels actions.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Excuse me if I think kids being taught that they are being genocided as they are being genocided isn’t as bad as people in the NA and EU being taught that moving to Israel and committing a genocide is ok.
DonutUpset5717@reddit
Actually brainless engagement with what I wrote.
ImAjustin@reddit
None of what was written shows hate for the Palestinians though?
elgatothecat2@reddit
Lippman recounted: “I had a teacher when I was 10 or so. He was studying to be a rabbi, and he would pose these questions, like: ‘There’s an Arab woman at a checkpoint, and she’s pregnant. You can’t touch her, because there’s no women around, and men can’t touch women. Should you let her in, even though she might be hiding a bomb and blow up the entire hospital? Or should you not let her in?’” Students who chose to let the woman in, Lippman said, were told they had allowed the hospital to be blown up.
Guslits remembered: “[Arabs] were talked about as inhuman, not caring about their children like we were. We were told that they put their children in front of them in the line of fire, that they send their children out as suicide bombers.” She mentioned an incident with a particular teacher in grade eight: “There was one day where she said something to us about all Arabs being evil, and we all pushed back on her, and she left the room crying when we pointed out that it’s racist to say that. And then when she came back into the room and had composed herself, she told us that it had been a test.” Guslits believes the teacher was lying.
Dooley said the anti-Arab racism at the schools was crucial to their purpose: “The story of children coming to support Israel through these educational institutions isn’t complete without the fact that the children are also taught to dehumanize Palestinian people.”
ImAjustin@reddit
It still doesn’t push for violence. dehumanization sure. It’s not going around saying kill Palestinian.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
I have a feeling you may have went to one of these schools.
ImAjustin@reddit
I did. Was a fantastic experience for the most part but never once did they say go around killing Palestinians or any violence for that matter. I can literally give the same interview and it would look very diff. This is picking specific answers from interviewees who they know fits the narrative they are trying to portray.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Yeah you just defend Israeli warcrimes and repeat hasbara. You were definitely not brainwashed lol.
This actually explains the ridiculousness of many of the NA and EU flairs defending warcrimes on the sub.
Szwejkowski@reddit
Do you not understand that people treat other people very badly when they don't see them as fully human? Or are you being deliberately dense?
EH1987@reddit
By that logic Hitler wasn't responsible for the holocaust because he never explicitly ordered it.
ImAjustin@reddit
But he did explicitly order it lol. Terrible example
EH1987@reddit
No, he talked about it and expressed his desire for it ad nauseum but he never actually formally ordered nor organize the extermination of the jews, his underlings did.
Santandals@reddit
Dehumanization leads to violence. In fact every genocide in the past started with dehumanization and increasing violence.
Your argument is basically "Sure you're pouring gasoline on a house but you're not doing arson"
ImAjustin@reddit
Well No bc this in reference to Arabs, not Palestinians. Arabs living in israel often carried terror attacks 20 years ago when these ppl were students. Hence why they talk about it
proponentofpain@reddit
Yeah Palestine and Islam are known for their love everyone equally stance lmao
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Yeah and racists line you are known for their fresh and informative takes.
Waldoh@reddit
Lol maybe they should work on civil rights after they're finished dealing with trying to be exterminated 🤷
rattleandhum@reddit
Islam is one of the largest religions in the world. There are extremists among their number, just as there are among Christians )eg: Holocaust, all of western history and imperialism), Jews (eg: Nakba, forced expulsion of Palestinians from their native lands, Gaza and West Bank conflicts too numerous to name) and even Buddhists (eg: Rohingya massacre).
I'm no fan of religion, least of the Abhamanic ones (you're all insane), but your thinly veiled racism won't wash here.
nagarz@reddit
fundamentalist islam is shitty yeah, that's why there's been tons of efforts by a lot of people in the middle east for a reform of islam into a more up to date with the rest of the world and values that go hand in hand with societal evolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_modernism
Between colonialism, coupes to place puppet heads of state, and autocrats co-opting islam for legitimacy, said movements have been stopped multiple times. Heck, the republicans have been doing the same in the US for decades and it has culminated with trump (a non-religious person) using Christianity as a pillar of his administration and keeps on parading it whenever it's convenient.
Santandals@reddit
Israeli kids being taught to shoot guns and singing "Death to Arabs" on the schoolbus = Cool
Palestinian kids hating Israel after their entire family gets killed by an Israeli air strike = Even the children aren't innocent......
jonassalen@reddit
In Belgium for example Arab schools are heavily scrutinized, subsidies taken away and frowned upon by society. Meanwhile Jewish schools exist in Antwerp and surroundings without any backlash. That is systemic racism if you ask me.
SCiFiOne@reddit
It is even worse, from the article it read more like Israel schools with religious sprinkled on top to enforce loyalty, these are basically an in the open fifth column recruitment camps. For the life of me I can't understand how you can retain citizenship while being actively part of other nation military.
Mundane_Molasses6850@reddit
to paraphrase george carlin. when muslims teach their kids certain values we call them indoctrinatots.
when zionists teach their kids certain values we call them senators.
hopelesscaribou@reddit
I also take issue at the ultra religious ones who undereducate their female students.
Every child should have the same basic education.
Michael_Gibb@reddit
With the repeated mentions of Jewish safety, I cannot help but get the impression that this Zionist indoctrination and what is, in effect, self-segregation, is actually making Jews less safe.
There's this isolationist component to all of it that only feeds the otherization of Jews, especially amongst Jew-haters.
On a side note, this is another reason, in my opinion, to oppose private educational institutions.
Ahad_Haam@reddit
Students learn to revere the Haganah? The heroes who defended Jews against literal Nazis? Outrageous!
Sing the Tikvah? So terrible! I guess all of the Jews who sang it on the way to the gas chambers were also indoctrinated by Israelis.
They learn to be insular? Must be because they are racists! Definitely nothing to do with thousands of years of oppression.
Breaking - Jewish schools are Jewish. More news at 11.
meister2983@reddit
The only thing out of the ordinary here (coming as someone who went through weekend Jew school) is the explicit anti Arab racism noted in one section. That's a bit concerning.
It also pitches a stronger separate Jewish identity than I'm used to. But that might be the nature of Canada (Jews tend to have less social integration there - e.g. lower intermarriage rates than the States)
Ahad_Haam@reddit
It's also very likely that they are exaggerating.
meister2983@reddit
Yeah I noted elsewhere the article undermines itself by restricting to self described anti Zionist graduates. That's such a rare outcome even among those critical of Jewish schools or Israel.
teachmebasics@reddit
Lmao. They're also taught to be loyal to Israel over everything, that Israel's genocidal identity built on the stolen homes and bodies of murdered Palestinians is the same as their identity, and that IDF soldiers are heroes and they should become one. They're taught to hate Arabs and that western nations may throw them out at any time.
But I guess none of that matters if you're not interested in actually learning anything and just want to be a Zionazi apologist.
Ahad_Haam@reddit
Because they celebrate Israel's independence day?
No, they aren't.
I think you got confused with Canada.
They are also taught Candian soldiers are heroes, I presume, despite their long record of war crimes.
A soldier can be either a hero or a villain.
Press X to doubt.
No lie detected.
isthisthingwork@reddit
If your education consists of mass dehumanisation and idolising the third reichs closest equivalent in the modern world, maybe we should meddle in that education system? Also I do agree Canadian genocide shouldn’t be idolised, but neither should Zionist atrocities
EH1987@reddit
Obviously.
teachmebasics@reddit
Try reading the article before you respond. Everything I claimed is within. No further responses needed to Zionazis and their apologists, will happily block you so I don't see any more trash on my screen. Try to be a better person.
EH1987@reddit
These schools really aren't doing much to combat the dual loyalty or foreign threat conspiracy theories that are popular among nazis and other antisemites. Deliberately indoctrinating people to be insular and suspicious of your neighbors.
This is likely the majority of the supposed explosion of antisemitism since 2023, especially given all of the groups pushing this narrative very plainly consider any outward solidarity with Palestinians as antisemitic.
According to mainstream media the people experiencing real trauma, real violence and real suffering are horrible genocidal terrorist monsters for using violence against their oppressors, meanwhile these people who are doing the oppressing or are supporting it are just defending themselves.
I hate this shit so much.
-endjamin-@reddit
“Indoctrinating to be suspicious of neighbors” - the neighbors in this case are literally making a doxxing site so other neighbors can find and harm them. Is it wrong to be concerned about that?
TraditionalGap1@reddit
Sorry, harm them?
teachmebasics@reddit
I doubt anyone will be harmed, at least like those Canadians joining the IDF will harm Palestinians if given direction or opportunity. Maybe they'll get their support of a genocidal, racist, warmongering state exposed and thrown in their face, but perhaps they shouldn't do that if they don't want to face consequences in places where people know the truth.
If there was a sex offender or rapist on my block, I'd want to know. I'm happy to learn there's an IDF soldier tracker as well, since we know they don't mind being one and the same.
myhandydandynotebook@reddit
Source? article ideally, idwt share the link to a doxxing site
AniTaneen@reddit
God, what a backwards and ignorant position.
We spent Centuries trying to prove ourselves in Europe. We were more French than the French, more German than the Germans. We changed our synagogue to look more Protestant. Our Tallit to look like shawls. We tried assimilating at all costs.
Instead, this fucking word, antisemitism was coined. Judenhass was old term, judeophobia, the irrational hatred of Jews. But with the advent of “race science” we get antisemitism, a “rational” hatred of Jews.
So we have the Ligue antisémitique de France, literally rioting and attacking Jews.
The Nazis didn’t invent the dual loyalty slander. They just said that it justified their actions. That nothing would ever make Jews belong in Europe. German Jews wore their iron crosses earned in WWI, straight into “deportation”.
EH1987@reddit
The reason I said nazis (and other antisemites, but I guess you ignored that part) is because they're still the most prominent proponents of these racist tropes and conspiracy theories today. And as is made painfully obvious by the article, this is done at the expense of jews for the benefit of zionism and Israel.
Mundane_Molasses6850@reddit
yep it isnt just these jewish students who get brainwashed. the whole western world gets indoctrinated by groups like the J7
https://www.adl.org/j7-large-communities-task-force-against-antisemitism
meister2983@reddit
Would have preferred the paper have sourced a wider degree of critical students rather than ones that went full Israel shouldn't exist. I'm guessing they sourced only explicitly anti Zionist ones, but it risks making the article look heavily one sided.
curious_scourge@reddit
Religious institution indoctrinates students. Yeah.
What did they expect?
Here's the kicker though. The fact that this is news.
Jewish day schools in Canada... 11? Ok, these are high performing educational institutes with secular oversight, accreditation standards, and free speech norms. They happen to promote Zionism. Sure. What did you expect. It's a religious institution.
Now let's do Muslim culture.
Number of islamic schools in Canada? 60+ Typical number of madrasas in a Muslim country? 100+ Iran state madrasas? 300+ Taliban schools in Afghanistan...15000+ Wahabbist schools in Bangladesh, Pakistan...30000+
All of these have strong religious nationalist agendas. They're ideological training camps. They have little accountability, and often no state oversight.
On average they're far far far worse than Canadian Jewish schools. But they're not news. None of it is news.
So to me, people have a warped perspective. The fact that this is the article posted instead of an article focusing on the same problem but 100 or 1000 times worse.
Lopsided_Thing_9474@reddit
Idk I guess you would have a point except .. racism and hate and violence towards the Jew is written in the Islamic scripture - I mean Islamic scripture calls on the genocide of the Jewish race for the world to know peace ..: and then those darn attacks in October happened. Too.
I mean it’s funny to me that you did a study on a race of people who have been more prosecuted than any other race on earth and state sanctioned genocides happened to- we have the second largest religious ideology calling for a genocide for their race.
And you’re concerned about those same people joining the IDF? I think it would be smart don’t you to learn how to shoot a gun at least - esp because this isn’t paranoia. People really do want to kill the Jews and oops. It’s the Muslims. Is that bad I pointed that out?
I guess Zionism started out as a life or death thing. So to be Jewish was important to Jews and Hitler rose to power in 1933- I always feel stupid saying this but six million Jews died.
If the Peel commission offer had gone through I wonder how many would have died then?
So it was life or death for the Jewish people at the time.
And I guess it’s easy for you to say because you live in a country where you’re not being attacked every day. People don’t send rockets to kill you from 3 different countries. Every day. Every week.
You’re also blissfully unaware that to genocide the entire race of Jews is written in the Islamic scripture -
Have you ever studied Islam?
The racism and hate for the Jew is so much it’s almost every page. Something about how awful Jews are.
Why would they get taught to be leery of Muslims ?
Well because Muslims are taught their god wants all the Jews murdered by them. For the world to know peace.
So.. there is a legit concern there.
mcpasty666@reddit
Very good documentary on the topic made just before October 7th. Adds a lot of context to the genocide.
https://youtu.be/qQHUro6u6Kc?si=fxDqk2m7uk0qEMr7
reddit_is_geh@reddit
JFC that's scary - Straight up dual allegiance campaigns within our border to get people to prioritize a foreign nation over our own
Juice-De-Pomme@reddit
Why is this video unavailable in France
FCOranje@reddit
Zionism is no different to ISIS in terms of brainwashing impressionable minds into extremism. They’re just significantly more sophisticated and well organised than ISIS - making it a terrifying ideology.
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