Ó Ríordáin nominates Francesca Albanese for the Nobel Peace Prize with S&D colleagues - The Labour Party
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Labour’s MEP for Dublin Aodhán Ó Ríordáin said that Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur for the West Bank and Gaza, is the perfect recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize.
Members of Parliament, international judges and former winners can nominate candidates.
Ó Ríordáin said:
“Francesca P. Albanese, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Occupied Palestinian Territories, a lawyer and human rights advocate, is the foremost voice exposing the horrors inflicted upon the Palestinian people, who have endured terror and dehumanization of unimaginable proportions in Gaza and the West Bank for the past year and a half. It is an honour to add my name to the calls for her to receive the Nobel Peace Prize."
the1newman2@reddit
Is the Nobel Peace prize a complete joke? First we got Trump a serial rapist and criminal and now we got Francesca Albanese, a certified antisemite... she shouldn't be in the UN let alone being nominated for a damn Nobel Peace Prize
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
Albanese isn’t an antisemite because Israel and Trump said so.
the1newman2@reddit
Albanese is an antisemite for her own words and actions.
dummypod@reddit
What did she say to deserve that? Are you going to conflate Israel and Jews?
McAlpineFusiliers@reddit
She said that America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby, an anti-Semitic trope going back to Nazi times and earlier.
dummypod@reddit
And that renders all her other opinions invalid?
flaamed@reddit
Do you have evidence she misspoke?
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
Quote it then big guy.
Criticism of Israel does not equal antisemitism just because it hurts your feelings
Ok_Glass_8104@reddit
Justified 7-october, publicly said the US are controlled by the jewish lobby. Furthermore, her and her husband fill their pockets with dictators' money by putting on a pro-Palestinian show. They're both grifters neck deep in conflict of interest.
Btw, anyone casually calling for the destruction of either Palestine or Israel should not be surprised when people react violently to you wanting to destroy their homeland
Stubbs94@reddit
Where did she justify the war crimes that the Palestinian resistance committed on that day? They have a legal right to resist the occupation. That's not justifying any crimes that were committed... That's stating a fact.
mcfloman@reddit
You are basically justifying it the same way she did: you're saying it's actually okay the Hamas animals targeted and killed 1400 civilians because they hate Israelis, not Jews (despite them explicitly telling the world they want to kill Jews for the past 20+ years). Calling them the "resistance" is also a laughable method of justifying the animals' actions, fyi.
Stubbs94@reddit
I explicitly said it wasn't okay to target civilians mate. Learn to fucking read.
mcfloman@reddit
But it's not a fact?...Hamas is very explicit about wanting to kill all the Jews and trying to disguise their intent and themselves as an entity as a "resistance" is in fact supporting their actions on Oct 7. You might say it doesn't excuse their war crimes but then you call her statement factual despite very obvious evidence otherwise. Additionally, I'm just confused what you think is the end goal here for Hamas. If they ever succeed in their "resistance" what do you think happens to all of the Israeli citizens?
Stubbs94@reddit
Except that's not true, they have openly said in their charter they do not want to "kill all Jews" If Palestine was occupied by a Christian country... And the same attack happened, would you say they wanted to kill Christians? Or kill their occupiers? I think you believe if the Palestinians gain their freedom they'll treat the Israelis the same way the Israelis currently treat the Palestinians.
mcfloman@reddit
So when they say "from the river to the sea Palestine will be Arab" that means an inclusive and diverse society? What about the below quotes, how do you feel about those? There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious The Day of Judgment will not come until Muslims fight the Jews, killing the Jews. When the Jew hides behind stones and trees, the stones and trees will say: ‘O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims
Maple_Moose_14@reddit
This is factually incorrect. Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, rooted in the same Islamist ideology that fuels countless other extremist movements across the region. The idea that Israel somehow "created" Hamas ignores the broader context of radical political Islam that long predates modern Israel.
But sure...if Israel didn’t exist, the region would magically be full of peaceful, democratic, pluralist utopias. Because clearly, all the sectarian violence, authoritarian regimes, and jihadist groups across the Middle East are just byproducts of Israel’s existence.
Give me a break whar a joke of an argument...
PaddyMakNestor@reddit
Why do you not call them resistance fighters, their country has been occupied by an enemy aggressor for almost 80 years. They are fighting for their counties freedom, the very definition of "freedom fighters". I am absolutely against the targeting of civilians when Hamas and Israel both do it, both are morally indefensible.
Israel's threat is very much one of their own creation, do the Israelis think that they can murder, control and oppress a population of people brutally for generations and have zero anger or repercussions. How many new "terrorists" does Israel think they have created by the starving and bombing of babies and children because this is how you make the best and most dedicated terrorists, you murder their children.
mcfloman@reddit
Dude what country? There was no Palestinian country and the concept barely existing before the Jews came in. Nowhere in Hamas's charter does it have anything about "liberating Palestine" - their goal is and always has been the destruction of the state of Israel, western values, and the killings of Jews. They are terrorists and animals (although I hesitate to insult animals with that comparison). Evidence that Israel has been murdering/controlling/etc any of this population is really poor considering the 20% of Arab citizens in Israel are by all polls fairly satisfied with life other than perhaps some alleged systemic issues (certainly not on the level of wideapread oppression/murder...) and the freely given Gaza territory became HQ for one of the most rapidly growing populations in the world, who actually had the opportunity for autonomy before they immediately decided to start throwing rockets into the ones who gave them that land.
How many men women and children does Israel have to allow Hamas to kill before they do something about it? What should Israel do that they haven't already done to prevent Hamas from brainwashing children for 20+ years with sesame Street style episodes telling them to kill all the Jews? I don't think killing children is the answer, and Israel is obviously not targeting children despite the international mock outrage over it, but waging a war against the entity creating these terrorists and accepting civilian casualties as the risk seems like perfectly good logic to me.
Unable_Duck9588@reddit
You all repeat the same lies.
Even when videos and transcripts of every one of her speeches are available.
Who gives you the same script to copy paste on here?
Ok_Glass_8104@reddit
Your mom
More_Net4011@reddit
Occupied people have a right to resist. Don't occupy people. Don't wall them in an blockade them and they won't to break out an shoot shit up. Is that not just common logic?
mcfloman@reddit
Don't move into freely given land and elect a terrorist Jew hating government. Don't shoot rockets into your neighbors land. Don't start intifadas and blow yourself up to kill people because you like ghost virgins and killing Jews more than you like your own kids to stay alive. Then they won't blockade you and retaliate against you. Is that not just common logic?
More_Net4011@reddit
Free given? How can I thief give anything if he stole it? You a squatter and a thief or the descendant of thieves. Ew.
mcfloman@reddit
These guys had the option to live peacefully with the Jews and ultimately chose not to. Like, 30+ times, till today as well. Did some of them get kicked out? Yes. I think they should have been let back in, although to call this "theft" is doubtful; all of us descend from thieves, including the Palestinians, so... But today there's really no thieves in Israel anymore than there are in America. You have an existing Israeli state and population whether you like it or not and ethnically cleansing them out because of an event 70 years ago isn't really an option no matter how badly you want that (unless I guess you're into ethnic cleansing of the Jews, which is very possible). So to start making amends and establish a new peace, Israel freely gives Gaza, and instead of trying to diplomatically capitalize on this and perhaps gain even more land/citizenship rights (common sense anyone?), the palestinians immediately elect a terrorist government advertising they will kill all of the Jews (JEWS) who then starts lobbing anything and everything to accomplish their stated goal. Their lives are now worse in their own domain than the Palestinian citizens of Israel and they have no one to blame but themselves. That's more "ew" to me than anything.
the1newman2@reddit
“America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines and continue to condemn the oppressed — the Palestinians — who defend themselves with the only means they have (deranged missiles), instead of making Israel face its international law responsibilities,” Albanese wrote.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-palestinian-rights-officials-social-media-history-reveals-antisemitic-comments/
America and Europe are controlled by the Jewish lobby and Hamas are resistance fighters not terrorists.
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_lobby
How exactly is this antisemetic? Israel is very vocal and very proud of their influence. Bibi and others have talked about it regularly.
It seems that you think the very mention of the word Jewish equals antisemitism. I wonder if you'd feel the same when the word Islam is mentioned?
McAlpineFusiliers@reddit
Saying that America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby is anti-Semitic.
the1newman2@reddit
She didn't say Israel. She said the Jewish Lobby. You are the one who is trying to have it both ways. And she literally said the Jews control the US and Europe. Like wtf, you just sweep every antisemetic thing under the rug and you wonder why Jews are afraid of the pro Palestinian movement
More_Net4011@reddit
seeth an cope ziohoe funny watching yall keep trying to use that victim card which has been revoked
the1newman2@reddit
Hey cool. Using the Nazi word Zio. Haven't seen that before. Shouldn't you be paying your friends in Hezbola to make sure their ok?
TG1191@reddit
I'd check how deep the hasbara glizzy has gone down your throat before doing anything. Hope those shekels smell good for you, Ziohoe.
pimmen89@reddit
She said ”one if which”, how do you get that to mean ”both of which”? I even explained it to you in an earlier comment that you responded to before you wrote this one.
Like, do you even read, bro?
the1newman2@reddit
Oh sorry Jews only control either Europe or the US. So much better
KJongsDongUnYourFace@reddit
"She literally said" then proceeds to paraphrase into an inaccurate interpretation lol.
Sp what you mean by literally is actually figuratively and not at all literally? Got it
pimmen89@reddit
I don’t see the word ”resistance fighter” in her quote, did you miss it or are you maybe just quoting her out of context and adding your interpretation?
She also said ”one of which”, so that would be the US. Are you denying that the Jewish demographic being an important voting and campaign donor block affects US policy towards Israel? Just because you recognize a a demographic as influential doesn’t mean that you hate them.
the1newman2@reddit
She said resistance = lobbing missiles into israel...Jesus you guys and your head in the sand mental gymnastics.
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
If these are truly your opinions and you aren’t commenting here in complete bad faith - no one is going to agree with you ever on this.
You just aren’t going to convince anyone that someone like Albanese who has spent the last years calling for genocide to stop in the face of immense institutional pressure (and now sanctions from the most powerful country on earth) is somehow this evil antisemite because ????
It’s just not happening, and to even attempt it makes you look propagandised to the point of absurdity
More_Net4011@reddit
Homie can't comprehend most of us see Albanese as a hero. She could be sitting on a beach in Italy making money off her International Law degree but has devoted her life to giving a voice to the voiceless. A light in the darkness
pimmen89@reddit
No, she said that it’s a form of defense, their only form of defense. That is Israel’s position to, that lobbing missiles into Palestine is for defense.
MirTrudMay@reddit
Are you jewish?
the1newman2@reddit
Yes
MirTrudMay@reddit
Makes sense and it is honorable that you defend your interests and thos of your people. Doesnt make much sense you expect others too.
Accusations of "antipalestinism" or whatever, would obviously not move you.
the1newman2@reddit
“America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines and continue to condemn the oppressed — the Palestinians — who defend themselves with the only means they have (deranged missiles), instead of making Israel face its international law responsibilities,” Albanese wrote.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-palestinian-rights-officials-social-media-history-reveals-antisemitic-comments/
America and Europe are controlled by the Jewish lobby and Hamas are resistance fighters not terrorists.
Stubbs94@reddit
"certified antisemite".... Apparently being opposed to human rights abuses and genocide is anti Semitic now?
McAlpineFusiliers@reddit
She said that America is subjugated by the Jewish lobby. Ireland is never beating the anti-Semitism allegations.
calhoumi27@reddit
The national pride I feel every time someone like you says that is unmatched man
Stubbs94@reddit
What's the full quote? Show me it. And being against the crimes of Israel isn't anti semitic. What the fuck is wrong with you?
R_1_one@reddit
Albanese isn't antisemitic, she's simply defending the rights of the people in middle east. People cant seem to make the difference between hating jews and criticizing a colonizing and genocidal country.
the1newman2@reddit
“America and Europe, one of them subjugated by the Jewish lobby, and the other by the sense of guilt about the Holocaust, remain on the sidelines and continue to condemn the oppressed — the Palestinians — who defend themselves with the only means they have (deranged missiles), instead of making Israel face its international law responsibilities,” Albanese wrote.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-palestinian-rights-officials-social-media-history-reveals-antisemitic-comments/
America and Europe are controlled by the Jewish lobby and Hamas are resistance fighters not terrorists.
R_1_one@reddit
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/202170?v=pdf
“Every State has the duty to refrain from any forcible action which deprives peoples... of their right to self-determination and freedom and independence. In their actions against, and resistance to, such forcible action in pursuit of the exercise of their right to self-determination, such peoples are entitled to seek and to receive support in accordance with the purposes and principles of the Charter.”
Hamas are resistance fighters, their action is legitimate. Now the way they do it is terrorism, and should be condemned. But both those things are not mutually exclusive. The mossad could also be considered a terrorist organization, but they are lucky not to be muslim, so they are just secret a "national intelligence agency".
She herself admitted the choice of word on jewish lobby was wrong, but there is no question in the influence of Israel on the war lobby, and in turn of its influence on the western nations.
And indeed the sense of guilt of European nations about the Holocaust is refraining them to act against Israel. Look at Germany, so afraid of being called antisemitic, they are choosing to side and support another genocide.
Commercial_Lead_7406@reddit
So in your mind doing a segue from copy-pasting some UN charter excerpt and linking it to Hamas is a good enough argument in your mind. Let's take a look at Hamas's charter and what their 'self determination' looks like shall we? Hamas charter.
Preamble
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).
Starts with open calls for genocide. Nice.
Article 7
The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:
More open calls for genocide.
Article 13
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
Article 22
With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there.
You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. [...] It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.
A little Protocols of the Elders of Zion. No harm no foul.
This is just a little taste of their 'self determination'. If this is the Hamas idea of self determination, no fucking thank you.
the1newman2@reddit
Aight. I'm done talking to Olympic gymnastics useful idiot of the day. Bye bye.
More_Net4011@reddit
wah wah go eat a burger leave international law to people that know about it
the1newman2@reddit
Lol I'm a published International law author but what do i know
dummypod@reddit
I too can tweet
Champagne_of_piss@reddit
If you're a lawyer why are your arguments and posts so sophomoric
Newbarbarian13@reddit
Spouting misinformed bullshit on reddit doesn't count as 'published.'
TG1191@reddit
Fuck Israel.
illogicalpine@reddit
Clearly not that much, given your pigshit takes.
dooooonut@reddit
Course you are mate
lupuszeni@reddit
a lot of shit gets published
dummypod@reddit
By mental gymnastics you mean international law
Champagne_of_piss@reddit
You can always share your badly thought out and poorly expressed views in worldnews. You're likely to win every argument as the mods ban all your interlocutors.
R_1_one@reddit
The one citing international texts is the useful idiot, but the one citing a propaganda newspaper is so smart and their time is so precious that they will stop answering as soon as it gets uncomfortable
FerdinandTheGiant@reddit
Are we pretending AIPAC isn’t real? One could argue it’s a poor choice of words (which she has acknowledged) but when you have to go 11 years into someone’s the past to dig up anything even remotely relevant, that speaks for itself.
HockeyHocki@reddit
It's not a 'poor choice of words' its flat out anti-semitism. AIPAC are a lobby group like any other, they have not subjugated the US ffs, its the oldest antisemitic trope going. she's smart enough woman to keep a lid on herself since but her actions speak volumes
FerdinandTheGiant@reddit
You’re right, but as an American, I can tell you confidently most of us think lobbyists in and of themselves “subjugate” our politics. Citizens United v. FEC is deeply unpopular and polling shows 84% of Americans feel special interest groups and lobbyists have too much of a say over what happens in our politics. AIPAC isn’t any different. It, like other powerful lobbyist groups, holds sway over our politics. Sway it ultimately uses to benefit a foreign government, sometimes to the cost of the US.
ZillesBotoxButtocks@reddit
I love it when Americans pretend they can read and understand words. It's like watching a chimp try to drive a car. They sort of know what to do because they've seen real people do it or they've seen videos of it, but they still make a mess of it and we'd all be better off putting them back in their cages so that they can throw shit at each other and get railed by the orange baboon.
snokegsxr@reddit (OP)
Trumps face watching Albanese win the Nobel Peace Prize before him 😂
the1newman2@reddit
God forbid either of them winning
snokegsxr@reddit (OP)
why tho? did fox news or times of israel tell you what to think again?
the1newman2@reddit
Yes. Fox News specifically to call Trump a rapist and a criminal. I just do what I'm told 👍
Electrical_Party_680@reddit
It’s so hard for these people to wrap their heads around the fact that not all of us Israel supporters are also right wing, MAGA supporters. Many of us have done more for Progressive causes and candidates, on our own, than the whole lot of them combined. It’s that infamous black and white thinking that they just can’t seem to escape.
dummypod@reddit
Ah yes, there's shades of grey in the Gaza child holocaust
the1newman2@reddit
Exactly. Reduced their whole lives and worldview to tiktok slogans
BuvantduPotatoSpirit@reddit
Nominations are extremely easy to get. Any member of a national assembly or national government, any university professor can nominate someone (as well as some much rarer classes).
So nominations can be complete stunts, yeah. Who wins is a different question.
Illustrious-Sky-4631@reddit
Always have been and always will be
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