RTX 3060 Ti vs RX 9060 XT 16GB- Is the upgrade worth it?

The upside to a small upgrade like this is that the 3060 Ti still has value and the net upgrade cost is only $100 to $150 if you can resell the old card.

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dstanton@reddit

In your case youve gone significantly more expensive each upgrade though.

The 3060ti and 9060xt have roughly the same launch price.

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Plank_With_A_Nail_In@reddit

I'm probably going to go from dual 3060 + 4070 Super to dual 3060 + 5080 24gb Super just for the VRAM, my eldest can have the 4070 super to replace his 2060 super.

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chapstickbomber@reddit

Logically your next GPU should be a ~$1600 8070

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zopiac@reddit

750 Ti -> 1070 -> 3060 Ti for me. 4070 TiS or 5070 Ti have been on my radar but not for the prices they're asking.

9060 XT actually is a card I was looking into but yeah, the uplift is not nearly great enough.

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It's so awful now. I remember when the current gen xx60 card would beat or at least match the prior generation's xx70 card. The xx70 would match the xx80 Ti. The xx80 Ti would match the previous Titan. Those days are long gone and it sucks.

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wichwigga@reddit

Same, when I upgrade I want to upgrade a new experience, new resolution, take advantage of a new refresh rate, 30 percent doesn't get you that tier above.

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Draklawl@reddit

Same for me. I just recently upgraded from a 3060ti to a 5070ti (got it for MSRP luckily) because if I was going to upgrade, I wanted to double the performance and double the vram. A 30% upgrade in performance wouldn't have been worth it, even with the vram upgrade with it.

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Comprehensive_Ad8006@reddit

I don't fully understand the sentiment of needing enormous gains for it to be "worth" upgrading. If you thought a 3060Ti was a decent enough product to purchase for $399 in 2020 and adjusting for inflation, that card would cost you $490 today.

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conquer69@reddit

The 3060 ti had great value at the time. The 9060 xt doesn't. The 09060 xt offers worse price performance than the 9070 xt at msrp.

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SEI_JAKU@reddit

Why do people keep saying this about the 9060 XT now? What's with the internet and misinformation as memes?

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conquer69@reddit

The 9060 xt offers 53% of the performance of a 9070 xt. Which makes sense because it's half of a 9070 xt. It doesn't cost half though. https://tpucdn.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-9060-xt-pulse-oc/images/average-fps-3840-2160.png

The 9070 xt offers 0.1241 frames per dollar while the 9060 xt only does 0.11 frames per dollar. It objectively has worse price performance which isn't a good thing. Cheaper cards should offer better price performance.

It does make sense however if we conclude the 9070 xt has a fake msrp and its price was meant to be $700. In that case the 9060 xt would offer better price performance.

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Adventurous-Slip9269@reddit

I don't think a card that fits your description exists, name me a card with better frames per dollar than the ones you mentionned. If you say b580, I'm cautious about it due to the 12gb but you can mention it.

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conquer69@reddit

It's not the amount of frames per dollar but the relationship between cheaper and more expensive cards.

Let's look at the nvidia side. The 5070 12gb has 0.114 fpd while the 5060 ti has 0.1027. It also has worse fpd and it's one of the reasons while people complain about the price of gpus in from here and below.

Above this, it's much better. The 5070 ti has 0.106 fpd, 5080 has 0.0916 fpd and 5090 has 0.069 fpd.

When the msrp already offers worse value, the card is basically pre-scalped. This happened before too during the crypto mining boom. The 3060 ti was the last card with decent value and every other card that launched post crypto boom from either nvidia or amd had a boosted msrp and worse value.

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Adventurous-Slip9269@reddit

I don't get it, you were saying the 9060 xt is half the 9070 xt but not half the price, yet there isn't a better value for the money. If you're saying that the whole market is trash then ok but I was saying that in this said market there isn't a better deal. I myself bought a 9060 xt 16gb for 385€, which is near msrp maybe a bit more but that's a 3 fan one for less noise. The only good gpu other than that is the b580, but it only has 12gb, 5060 ti is too expensive when 9060 xt is there, 5070 is good but only 12gb, above that is just huge price increase, the 9060 xt is the only good budget card then everything else is either bad or good but expensive. I'm looking forward to next gen or two because I agree today's cards are bad, the generational leap is minimal, I even thought that 9060 xt was too expensive but it's the cheapest that is not trash, since previous gen are somehow crazy expensive for whatever reasons, sometimes same price or even more than their current gen equivalent, especially on nvidia side.

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conquer69@reddit

I know there isn't a better deal but I'm talking about performance per dollar.

Either the 9060 xt is overpriced (even when it's the best value in it's price range) or the 9070 xt has a fake msrp which is the most likely.

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IguassuIronman@reddit

If you thought a 3060Ti was a decent enough product to purchase for $399 in 2020 and adjusting for inflation, that card would cost you $490 today.

But if you already have a 3060ti, you want a sizable increase in performance for it to be worth shelling out another $500

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Comprehensive_Ad8006@reddit

But you can get a better option at THAT specific price was my point. You can get a 5070 for around ~$540 atm.

With the 9060XT you're getting ~30% more raster and ~50% more RT relative to the 3060Ti right now for less money than you would've initially purchased the 3060Ti for.

By "enormous" i should've been more clear. People want huge generational leaps (upwards of 30% PER generation) for the same class of card which hasn't been the case for a very long time now.

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IguassuIronman@reddit

With the 9060XT you're getting ~30% more raster and ~50% more RT relative to the 3060Ti right now for less money than you would've initially purchased the 3060Ti for.

The point is that it's not worth upgrading for a lot of people if that's all the uplift you're getting for the same dollar. We're not talking about people just looking to buy a GPU now, we're talking about people who have a GPU already

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GloriousCause@reddit

The 3060 ti was $399 and almost on par with the previous generation flagship 2080 ti which cost $1200. It used to be normal to expect pretty large generational gains, let alone skipping a gen. Now we have barely 30% in 2 gens, and prices rose with inflation as well...

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pomyuo@reddit

you can't use inflation when talking about the value of a computer part

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railven@reddit

Someone in another thread suggested waiting for the mid-gen refresh, and I'll like go that route.

Went from upgrading every "generation" to life changes I had to sit on a 2080 Ti skipping 30/RDNA2 series. But then jumping to RTX 40 and almost a 2x performance gain brought me back to the pre-2012 days, so I'll stick to that (also easier on the wallet).

Next upgrade won't be until RTX 60/UDNA(RDNA5?) whatever they do - refreshes are announced/released.

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Vb_33@reddit

The refresh would be the 50 super series. The 60 series is the full blown next gen. But yea if you're on 40 series and not in a hurry waiting till 2026 at the earliest to upgrade is a no brainer.

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Zahand@reddit

Yall out of curiosity, how large would the jump be from a 980 to something like a 5070 or 5080

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Vb_33@reddit

According to techpowerup the 5070 is 297% faster than the GTX 980.

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imKaku@reddit

Uh on average, your talking 5-6x fps. 980 is weaker then a 3050.

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DILF_FEET_PICS@reddit

You're than

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RedTuesdayMusic@reddit

The 9060XT is 2.6X faster

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GloriousCause@reddit

Depends on if you are keeping an outdated CPU. Probably would need a full platform upgrade to see most of the gains.

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BarKnight@reddit

Honestly if you have a 3060ti just use DLSS4

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Vb_33@reddit

5070 Super 18GB will be a good upgrade. The 5070 is 83% faster.

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exomachina@reddit

ATI Rage Pro -> Voodoo 3 -> GeForce 4 Ti -> Radeon 9600 Pro -> GeForce 6800 GT -> Radeon HD3850 -> Radeon HD4870 -> GTX 275 -> HD 7870 -> R9 280X -> GTX 970 -> GTX 1080 Ti

i486 -> Pentium 2 -> Pentium 4 -> Athlon XP -> Athlon 64 X2 -> Phenom II Black Edition -> FX 8350 -> i7 4790K -> R7 5800X

Honestly every single upgrade was huge in one way or another and hardware never felt like it was stagnating until the last 5 years. Hence the reason I really haven't bothered upgrading anything. I don't really play very many new games and the ones that I do run great still.

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BigSassyBoi@reddit

Depends on what you're willing to spend, but a 9800 X3D and a 5070 ti or 9070 xt would feel as massive as any of those upgrades if not more in some instances.

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exomachina@reddit

Massive in AAA singleplayer games maybe?

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Vb_33@reddit

No would be massive in Quake 3 too.

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railven@reddit

Go back through history and you'd notice major DirectX changes with almost every generation (not refresh but sometimes even the refreshes targeted new DX features).

Now, with MSFT tying their gaming progression to their pathetic Xbox division, you'd see DirectX has stagnated, thus the API has stagnated, thus the media has stagnated, and we finally got all vendors on the same level (welcome to the party AMD), we can hopefully finally see progress again.

But I expect this to be the new norm, with most hanging fruit picked, these companies are going to have to start climbing the tree but frankly it seems only NV is interested in that with Intel just following and AMD waiting until Sony does the work.

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Vb_33@reddit

Now, with MSFT tying their gaming progression to their pathetic Xbox division, you'd see DirectX has stagnated

What's funny is that console Xbox is dead in the water and MS is going back to Windows gaming being the standard with the next Xbox (not Xbox Ally the actual successor to the Xbox series x).

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Vb_33@reddit

r9 280X

The Arc A380 is 13% faster than the 280X.

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JJ3qnkpK@reddit

ATI rage pro and voodoo 3. Same with that i486 and even Pentium 2.

Take me back lol. Tech was so freaking fun back then, and every generation felt like a revolution.

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jammsession@reddit

Wow. To cherry pick two pick data here, in what I call „sane“ settings (aka not ultra high or epic with RT extreme and 1080p, but medium and upscaling), in the games I am interested in (FF7 and CO33) the 3060ti although slightly slower offers the better picture quality and overall better experience thanks to DLSS.

That is IMHO pretty impressive for a 5y old card. Or pretty bad from AMD, however you want to frame it. Especially considering that I currently can get a 3060ti for 420$ and a 9070 XT is around 850$ both new.

I think most user should go with used right now. IMHO in the midrange you get a bad deal no matter what brand you pick.

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theRealtechnofuzz@reddit

if you're using 1080p240 maybe, 1440p absolutely for vram alone...

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dsinsti@reddit

Went from a 6600 to a 9060xt 16 Gb it's an amazing jump for 350€. Got the Saphire Pulse, runs cool and smooth as butter for 1440p. I'd gone for the rx 9070xt but tha is on the 750€ ballpark and makes nonsense if its not 4K. 5070ti is interesting too but I prefer ti spend hard money on my kids education.