Do NOT i repeat do NOT cry in front of a girl, ever. I know it sounds bad, and it is, but she will stop seeing you as a man for reasons that go beyond logic and women can't help it.
If you doubt me just take a look at r/AskReddit or r/AskMen and search for questions like "What made you break up?" or "What ruined your marriage?" and more often than not the first posts are all about men crying and the woman leaving him. I've read things like "I mourned when my father died of cancer, she left."
This greentext is probably larp or it's a happy homosexual couple.
You’re fucking stupid if you are legitimately listening to what you’re reading online and taking it as life advice. You’re reading the worst of the worst stories, in the most toxic of toxic relationships. Healthy relationships require vulnerability
Vulnerable: You know honey, I feel so stressed out lately. I feel like I need to be perfect at everything I do, or I will let you and our family down. For example, I'm really struggling with this new assignment at work, it's not what I like to do or what I'm good at, but I'm afraid if I'm not able to knock it out of the park I won't get that next promotion and you and the kids will be so disappointed in me. I just need to hear that you will still love me no matter what happens.
Emotional: Bwaaaah.. why does everyone hate me at work? <sob> I'm a total failure at everything I do, and my boss out SO mean to me. <sob> I can't do anything right, and I know you are going to leave me when I screw things up again my. Please say you won't be mad at me. waaaahhhhh
"I love it when men are confident enough to cry and be vunlerable. I couldn't imagine myself with a partner that can't express his emotions.", she typed while laying next to her 6'5" emotionally constipated boyfriend that hasn't cried since he was 12.
This is the one thing I read online that I know is 100% true. There isn't a single woman that hasn't weaponized or held it against me down the line when I got emotional. Women THINK they want their men to be emotional, but inveitably get the ick when they see him vulnerable.
"Wuh wuh women leave when you cry!!! " Why are you believing that ESPECIALLY ON REDDIT?? and secondly thats a shit partner and it wasnt going to end happilyforever anyways
Ultimately it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. If they believe things work this way and continue to act on it, they will never have a genuine connection. What's more, they will continue to believe that such relationships don't exist, and those in them are just lying. These people are like flat earthers but for healthy relationships.
(Personally think these people are just terrified of being vulnerable and develop these convoluted theories to justify it. It's self-sabotage, really, but it must feel safer. True happiness requires the willingness to risk getting hurt, which some people don't have.)
A man probably should be more emotionally stable and self sufficient, and lean on friends outside the relationship, so that the woman feels carried instead like she's carrying. But I don't see how crying because you're dad died of cancer is bad, it'd be weird if you didn't. And if a girl leaves because of that reason, you don't wanna be with her
nah fuck that. men shouldn’t have to hide their emotions and put on a tough guy facade their whole life because they were born with a cock. this is the 21st century not ancient greece
How is that going for you, being a modern man in an emotionally available relationship? Because when I try this, women get turned off. When I act stoic and competent, they actually want to be around me.
There is gap between "should" and reality. The negative reaction to a man's emotional breakdown is a primal thing in women. There's no getting around their cave woman brain regardless of what year it is.
What the fuck are you on about? Everyone knows a *real* emotionally stable man hides his sadness from all humanity, friends included, and drinks or drugs himself into oblivion.
I’m kidding, except about the part where you have a horribly perpetuating and toxic take on emotions and relationships. I don’t cry all the much but very few women I’ve been with seemed to think less of me, much less leave me for such a thing. Y’all getting in with some toxic ho’s.
Yeah and we are supposed to do what they said they didn't want us to do sometimes, and get angry if you tell them that's childish (yeah i'm still bitter but its ok now)
Well why don't they know what they want? I point to feminism, and it has been allowed to gain cultural influence. Overturn that and women may realize what they want, and it demands asserting positive masculinity, aka being a stable reliable man.
This person either is A. A young virgin and watches those toxic podcasts or B. Was toxic in a relationship the girl cheated on him and now he blames it on him crying when she left him
Women are people too. They aren’t robots with a secret code. Jesus Christ.
Some will have some stupid expectations, but the exact same is true for men. The ones that are like that aren’t worth anyone’s time imo.
I had 2 cousins growing up that were like brothers. They both died. I cried on my wifes shoulder. I confided in her trauma I sustained during childhood. Again, cried in her shoulder. My mom is sick and will die. Best believe I'll cry on her shoulder. If she wanted to leave me for that, then good riddance.
On the real though, you need to be a man who handles his shit to have this sort of openness. You need to take the comfort she gives you and use it to overcome whatever it is that has you down. Vulnerability is fine if you're man enough.
What the fuck? Tell me you’ve never had a decent gf in your life without telling me you’ve never had a decent gf in your life.
Tell ya what, once I had to go dentist bc my 7th tooth chipped off at the very base. I had to go through very painful tooth roots removal without anesthesia(the one they got didn’t work on me at all), and after the procedure my girlfriend was waiting for me in the lobby. While I was there at the doctors I was screaming in pain, it was horrible, I felt every twitch and turn inside my jaw. After I got out she told me that she never experienced secondhand pain in her life until this moment. We got to the car and I broke down crying because I couldn’t stand pain ringing through my whole jaw to the back of my head, pain so intense that it was almost numbing, I wanted to take out my jaw and scratch all of the pain away. I was drooling snot and saliva all over her while she comforted me, which made me embarrassed and my already tipped psyche fell over in a new wave of tears. She never saw less of me bc of that episode. Even more, she said she wants to be there for me for every painful event in my life like this one.
Being in a relationship where you can’t express your emotions sounds absolutely awful. I’d rather have them leave me than say in that shit. If you want to live your life withholding your emotions from your partner that’s all you. Hopefully it doesn’t lead you to suicide
Seriously, women are cold blooded when it comes to men expressing emotions. They'll bring that shit up 2 years later in a fight like she's been waiting for a chance blast you for being weak in front of her. They have zero empathy for your insecurities or problems, they'll just use it against you when the time comes. If you need to vent, do it to your male friends. Your GF will just resent you for being a pussy.
Yikes. Ignore this advice. If your partner can’t handle seeing you cry, why be with said partner?
I cry in front of my BF. He talks about his insecurities on the verge of tears but always leaves just before the full on cry. He’ll admit it in text but I have yet to see him cry, and I feel like he doesn’t trust me enough. It hurts to know that while I’m comfortable ugly crying into his chest, he won’t return it.
I respect and resonate with my dad even more after seeing him cry. Wet eyes during films, crying when family dogs were dying. We are so similar in our proclivity to cry that my mum points it out. I love my dad for being real and vulnerable in our family’s saddest moments. What kind of a psycho would ban himself from showing and sharing those emotions?
I disagree, there are definitely moments as a guy you can cry and a woman won't judge you for it. As long as you are strong and confident in public and around other people they won't mind.
This is stupid and or an american thing. My ex was angry that i didn't cry enough during our breakup. Things like the greentext happened and we broke up because of far different reasons.
Ugh this fucking bullshit again.
>but she will stop seeing you as a man for reasons that go beyond logic and women can't help it.
That's like saying "Men always beat their partners. They can't help it, it's just their biology". Women aren't robots, they're just humans. They're really not that different from men. Slightly different bodies and maybe a bit more variance in hormones (periods really do seem to suck) but really that's it. There's sure to be toxic women just like there's toxic men (like you right now, although I really hope you can work on this and can get over it). Either you've never really had a deeper/romantic relationship with women or you've had the bad luck of experiencing bad relationships. Either way I'm sorry and I hope this improves for you, although it can't if you keep thinking like this because you'll ruin anything good by not opening up and other toxic behavior.
I do wanna add, since women are also human, they're not perfect either. Some people have difficulty dealing with the emotions of others. Almost all people don't take too well to people dumping all their emotions (especially negative) all at once to someone they don't know that well yet. It might take some time for people to warm up enough to be able to deal with that, maybe even a year or more.
Honestly, if she leaves because of such a thing, it's better that way. There's no need of this kind of piece of shit in my life.
If you can't be true and let go when you are with your SO, then it's just an act
Cried more than once in front of my ex and it never was an issue, she cried too and we were fine with it. Maybe it's not like that in every relationship but if I can be open why be with her ?
Don’t worry. Society has brainwashed my with the idea that men shouldn’t cry so hard that I couldn’t cry even when dad suddenly died of Covid.
I was shocked, I was scared, I was sad, but I couldn’t shed a tear. My uncle cried when he heard, my godfather cried when I called him to tell him, I couldn’t.
I’ve had sad moments before and after that when I’ve wanted to cry, but I never reached that crying point like when I was a young child and it was so easy to tear up.
If I couldn’t cry in that moment, I realized I probably wouldn’t be able to cry ever. Maybe when I become older and more sentimental like my grandfather and above mentioned uncles I will be able to again cry.
I almost envy women because they can cry so easily.
Kinda sad to say, but same. When I went through my depression phase at 17 since my grandad died, I couldn't emotionally communicate my feelings. I was raised with the statement, "Men don't cry". This was just a statement parents threw at you to stop you from crying, but it really stuck with me as a kid. I just went into shock and felt numb. This was the first time I felt sad but aware of myself. I couldn't cry even if I wanted to. I knew I was different because everyone was sad, and I questioned myself if I didn't love my grandad, so I didn't cry. I tried to make myself cry by punching myself in the stomach, but it didn't work. Eventually, I overcame myself and became more open about my feelings, but I still can't fully be emotional due to society's upbringing.
Like I wrote above, I’ve noticed the men in my family began to more easily cry as they aged.
As if when they entered their twilight years they became more emotional and open. So I assume that when I became a geezer I might regain the ability.
You're dumb. If anything it was the contrast of cold feelingless energy combined with the ugly crying when this cold stiff walking corpse of a modern male bursts into tears and starts flooding his wife with emotion. All of a sudden she gets slapped in the face with a pure emotional granade and she can't help but freak out.
Now imagine that she has been emotionally connected to this man the whole time and have reached into his soul to discover him. And he, also attuned with his own groundedness with life displays genuinely his human emotions in an attuned way. Rather than resist them, he accepts feelings unconditionally as all part of the human condition.
Such a man would not cry until snot ran into his mouth and soil her freshly washed shirt with snot that smells of shame and repressed trauma. No. This man cries like a real human, along with her in sympathy, until they both reflexively laugh at the honesty and rawness of it all. Then they embrace, kiss lightly, and he tells her that he will be alright as long as she is by his side.
Whip that out and you'll be swimming in pussy.
This could very well be legit.
Down the line, the OP will probably weaponize the bf's exposure of emotional vulnerability against him. Perhaps say it's his fault her pussy's always dry, because she can't get off on a bitch-man fucking her.
It’s like a dark irony that y’all actually believe this. Every woman I know is more turned on by emotional vulnerability than emotional detachment. It’s a huge plus in both maintaining a relationship and sex!
> be me
> get home from my vasectomy
> hear moaning and slapping coming from my wife's room
> must be Chad again
> know they would want privacy, sit down at my computer
> log onto reddit and open /r/greentext
> read a funny greentext from le 4chins and chuckle as I listen to my wife begging for the genes I can't give her
> think of a convoluted way in which I can relate homosexuality and falsehood to the events in the greentext
> suck the cheeto dust off my fingers as I begin to type my masterpiece in the comment section
> Fake: anon has a girlfriend
> Gay: anon cried
> giggle as I imagine the intellectuals of leddit perusing my incredibly witty and original comment
> hear my wife moan with ecstasy as Chad floods her fertile womb with his seed
> it's been a good day
> i'll get lots of upvotes for my impressive contribution to internet culture, and Chad might even let me eat his cum out of my wife's pussy if he finds my comment funny enough
tfw you have an intimate moment and think 4chan needs to know about it
tfw you start thinking about how someone can be in a healthy, loving relationship but still need to socialize with 4chan instead of close friends
tfw you re-read the dialogue and think about how crying after sex and begging your SO not to leave them would sounds sexy and not pathetic and annoying
tfw you try to convey warmth with stupid fucking internet acronyms
> be me
> get home from my vasectomy
> hear moaning and slapping coming from my wife's room
> must be Chad again
> know they would want privacy, sit down at my computer
> log onto reddit and open /r/greentext
> read a funny greentext from le 4chins and chuckle as I listen to my wife begging for the genes I can't give her
> think of a convoluted way in which I can relate homosexuality and falsehood to the events in the greentext
> suck the cheeto dust off my fingers as I begin to type my masterpiece in the comment section
> Fake: bait
> Gay: it's Gay
> giggle as I imagine the intellectuals of leddit perusing my incredibly witty and original comment
> hear my wife moan with ecstasy as Chad floods her fertile womb with his seed
> it's been a good day
> i'll get lots of upvotes for my impressive contribution to internet culture, and Chad might even let me eat his cum out of my wife's pussy if he finds my comment funny enough
Unsurprisingly, there is a mid-ground people. Cry too early in a relationship and she won't see you as her man, then leave you. Cry too late and she'll think you're too emotional distant, then leave you. You want the cheat sheet? Sometime between 7 months and 2 years experience an insurmountable amount of grief. Lose a close family member, lose a pet, lose your best friend, it doesn't matter. If none of them are dying in that window, you need to kill them. Or better yet kill her lived ones, that way it shows you really care
Anon writes out his wholesome fantasies so that at least someone can feel nice today. Anon then goes back to cry alone in bed. Don't worry anon, such is life.
Vaguely. I think a lot of the Freudian interpretations of trauma put too much emphasis on sexuality and not enough on trust and safety.
The truth is that we generally develop most of our adult personality and values before we reach 10 years old, and as such the events within these early years are highly influential/formative. We also have dumb monkey brains so we often forget why we came to the conclusions that we did, we only remember the conclusion and it’s emotional expression.
Being an adult in a position with someone who you feel completely and utterly safe with can often do a lot to open up old wounds and vulnerabilities. It was only after I started feeling safe in the arms of my first real female friend that a lot of my shitty childhood trauma came back to the surface, the extreme isolation, the feeling of being undeserving of happiness, the fear of crossing some ambiguous line which would ruin everything at any second… all came rushing back to me within a month. That level of raw emotional expression and damage is ultimately what ended the friendship a few months later, but it was incredibly eye opening to see what i had been hiding under the surface for so long.
A half decade later I’ve done a lot of work to overcome it, and I’m finally at the point where I can say with confidence that I’m happy about who I am, as cheesy as it sounds. I’m genuinely a stronger and more capable person now than I was back then.
holy shit i did not expect a reply of this level, very glad you've come to terms with yourself and cleared your past experiences, with what little experience i have on this kind of stuff i can safely say you've done a big deal...
Fake and Gay. No one, whether they're male, female, femboy or goth gf gives a single solitary fuck if you're sad.
Source: Unloved and really low self-confidence. (Please hold me)
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