ULPT request. How do I take down a drone? Then how do I find the owner
Posted by Otherwise_Air_6381@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 315 comments
Pretty sure there’s a drone that keeps returning to my house. I’ve caught it looking in my window. I can’t report it without proof. I have no clue how to capture it or what else to do. I’ve thought about jamming the wings somehow with Halloween fake spider web. Usually I’m in the house when I notice so I’m on a boobie trap thought process. I feel like I’m going crazy trying to figure it out. I feel so violated.
massymas12@reddit
DJI drones and many prebuilt have Remote ID as federally mandated. Download a remote Id app, see who the drone belongs to, slip a piss disk under their door.
LinkedAg@reddit
Piss disc?
OnlyOneWithFreeWill@reddit
Get a load of this guy. Hasn't made a piss disc before...
LinkedAg@reddit
😕
massymas12@reddit
Oh my sweet summer child. I see you have not been taught the ways of this sub
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
You don't need proof to file a report. A sufficient number of reports becomes the proof.
BusyWeight855@reddit
Install a camera to take pics & attach to police reports.
jared1259@reddit
Too ethical
kickintheshit@reddit
Shoot it down with a bazooka
rudnat@reddit
Excessive use of force. Approved.
BusyWeight855@reddit
You're 100% correct. Edit...after the police investigate, get a copy of the report & anonymously send them piss disks.
baracuda68@reddit
The police?
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
EVERYONE!!!
--Gary Oldman
crispiy@reddit
Proof of what crime though?
NeutralCombatant@reddit
FAA regs and state/local laws speak to flying over private property at certain altitudes, flying over people, and using drone to look through windows/creep. Also a lot of non-drone specific state laws will be applicable (think of crimes like mischief, etc.)
miragud@reddit
Most states have peeping Tom laws. Using a drone to look into windows of a house seems like it would fit.
chrysanthamumm@reddit
water gun :)
Wateraven@reddit
Rob used streamers on a fan during a battle bots episode of crunch labs. It worked really well.
xsmp@reddit
Federal offenses should be avoided at all costs as they prevent you from getting petty revenge. a fishing rod with a weight on it to practice your casting in your own yard is not illegal, and I don't think you can get in trouble for unintentionally grounding a drone being operated in your yard while practicing casting with your fishing rod.
CutsAPromo@reddit
Would have to be a hell of an angler
clintj1975@reddit
You'd be surprised how accurate a fly rod can be with some practice.
General_Address5456@reddit
Pretend it's a Bonefish, ha.
CutsAPromo@reddit
I would be! I've never fished
ihadagoodone@reddit
Lots of practice.
xsmp@reddit
a master baiter.
Unfair-Language7952@reddit
Ah, but he servant waits while the master baits.
Krazy_k78@reddit
As a drone pilot I agree. Screw that guy, but don't target the drone. However stringing some fishing line all over the airspace of your backyard is completely legal. This being said if the drone is over 250g and modern, it likely has remote ID which is trackable to most police agencies ( and to private citizens if they possess the technology to do it)
DogsDucks@reddit
What would you do with the drone once it got tangled up in the fishing line?
And then once you have the information/ drone in your possession (of course, to return it to the owner) what are the next steps to stop it?
vonhoother@reddit
I would say first accidentally run over it with your car, or accidentally drop it from your roof, or accidentally smash it to pieces with a hammer. Give it back to its owner in a bucket, and just to show there are no hard feelings, let him keep the bucket.
Krazy_k78@reddit
I'd wait for the drone owner to come and claim it. they know where it's at. Also, I'd look at the SD card on it and try to determine who the owner is by the pictures. (And coincidentally see what they were taking pictures of that they weren't supposed to.)
essssgeeee@reddit
I don't know about you, but I frequently have problems with birds that like to eat my garden and pick at my plants. They packed holes in my strawberries. Stringing fishing line keeps them from landing on my plants. No one could fault you for putting up some fishing line to protect your plants from birds
HoustonBOFH@reddit
This. Stringing fishing line to prevent bird nesting is totally legal and often done.
Kyonkanno@reddit
Whats the federal offense being tried here? Setting up a booby trap?
leros@reddit
Drones are legally aircraft as much as any plane. They are also legally allowed to fly over someone's backyard.
Willingly damaging or destroying an aircraft is a felony with up to 20 years of prison time as punishment.
xsmp@reddit
if someone is flying a registered drone in my yard low enough that my son snags it while practicing his cast in the yard, the operator is breaking more laws than little Timmy.
leros@reddit
What law do you think the operator is breaking?
Like it or not, a drone operator can legally fly a millimeter above your grass.
FAA has jursisdiction over the air above your house. A drone legally fly from ground level up to 400ft in non-restricted places. A drone operator cannot land on your property but they fly over it.
Should this rule be changed? Maybe. This rule is also what allows a roofing inspector to fly a drone to inspect your roof.
That being said, harassment is still a crime. You can harass somebody by flying a drone but the flight itself is not illegal.
xsmp@reddit
proximity to people was my thought but go ahead and quote the whole book if you need to.
leros@reddit
Honest question, are you guessing at what you think the laws should be or do you know what they actually are? It's surprising how far apart they are.
xsmp@reddit
specifically in my state, it is illegal to use a drone to capture or distribute images of a person or their property without consent, which may apply when flying near people in private settings. Additionally, drones cannot be launched or recovered from private property without the property owner's consent.
beyond that, if the payload is merely for flight control and is under a half pound, it's unregulated. sustained flight over open-air assemblies (e.g., crowds) is restricted unless under a waiver or with a parachute system IS required above a half pound in total weight along with a DOC.
GiraffeyManatee@reddit
So does this mean if a drone was accidentally entangled in the netting used to prevent crop-stealing birds, the owner would be breaking the law if he jumped my fence without permission to recover the it? I imagine this could be very distressing for him if I didn’t notice the entanglement for a few months.
xsmp@reddit
that sounds like an accurate read on the situation
Kyonkanno@reddit
I get why it’s a federal offense to down an actual aircraft but to include drones in that same law is stupid.
leros@reddit
Drone laws are evolving out of standard aviation laws. You needed a legit pilot license to fly a drone just a few years ago.
You could argue the laws are outdated.
You can also argue that drones are serious vehicles that deserve respect.
Keep in mind that in the current legal terminology an "unmanned aerial vehicle" (aka drone) covers everything from a 0.5 pound DJI mini to a 120 pound massive quadcopter or even a plane. And that's just in the simple category. You can actually have larger drones.
Kyonkanno@reddit
In not trying to downplay the importance of a DJI rig in peoples lives. But to group a DJI drone with drones capable of carrying missiles is retarded.
leros@reddit
Honestly I think the argument is probably the other away around.
A "toy" DJI drone can cause massive amounts of damage. It could hit a helicopter and make it crash. For example, you see rescue helicopters avoiding a rescue zone because some idiot is flying their DJI drone nearby.
The FAA right now is trying to keep the laws lax to allow the drone industry to evolve and take off.
There were two simultaneous things happening at once:
1) Drone were legally aircraft that required a pilots license to operate
2) Drones were $300 toys that kids were getting for Christmas
They're trying to slowly relax the aviation laws to make drone flight less restrictive than airplane flight. For example, you now need a drone license not a full pilots license to fly a drone commercially.
They're also slowly restricting the laws to make drones not just toys you can fly anywhere. For example, you can now get prison time for flying a toy drone over a no fly zone.
mipacu427@reddit
I really like this one. Bravo.
xsmp@reddit
-bows- thank you, kind sir.
PNWoutdoors@reddit
I also like to practice pool skimming, but because my arms tend to get tired I do my training above my head. Kind of like doing figure eights with a 20' pool skimmer helps strengthen my shoulders for when the pool needs a good hard skimming.
PizzaFoods@reddit
I love pool skimming!! Need pool to skim.
AssDimple@reddit
You can practice even without a pool. I do it all the time as I train to start at the Pool Training Academy.
OddButterfly5686@reddit
I use a pool skimming app when my pool skimming levels are low it's decent for a quick fix
WaffleHouseSloot@reddit
Also training to be a boom mic operator is also a skill that might come in handy.
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
Best answer here lol
Tylerrr93@reddit
I LOVE your username! Long days and pleasant nights, Sai!
OCPyle@reddit
Say true
TheVagabondLost@reddit
This guy remembers the face of his father!
lennydsat62@reddit
Niiiice. Reading the books as we speak.
OrcishDelight@reddit
I have a sudden and keen interest in archery 🤨
Fuzzy_Syrup_6898@reddit
Fishing wire around the area it flies to so it gets caught and falls into your property. Then just wait for the owner to come try and recover it, blaming their kid. Get a copy of their ID and report them
RageTheFlowerThrower@reddit
We had a similar problem and asked the county sheriff what we can do. The sheriff knows we are a family of archers so he told us to shoot it down with our bows. One of the many reasons why I love rural living. Lol
itspassing@reddit
Rural living, dealing with short-range drones, LEO tells you to shoot arrows in the air. None of this makes sense.
If you're rural there must be 3 suspects at most?
danocathouse@reddit
"I shot an arrow in the air, it fell to earth I know not where..."
AdditionalMess6546@reddit
Screaming and crying
"No, I was wrong. It's over there."
Raxus333@reddit
I just snorted my drink, thank you for that you mean thing
Can-Sea-2446@reddit
and then I heard a lady grunt, I knew I hit her in the ......knee
Iwabuti@reddit
Hang fishing lines from your house in its usual flight path.
If it flies into them it's the pilot's fault
Ivantherapp2@reddit
My way.
RepresentativeOk6450@reddit
Just be careful
Public-Cat-9568@reddit
Why are you being downvoted for providing information? I'd think being aware of potential felony charges would be relevant to this discussion. I'd want to know.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Being downvoted because AI isn't "information" when it comes to legal advice. If you want legal advice, the only appropriate place to get it is from a lawyer. People posting AI responses on the internet, and others believing its good "information" makes everyone involved look silly.
Stormin_333@reddit
AI is expected to replace 30% of lawyers within 10 yrs
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Not Google AI LOL
Stormin_333@reddit
Def not. It'll be specialized, but things like contract templates, strongly-worded letters, etc will all be AI with only maybe 1 billable hour fir a final review.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Agree. Really I think it’s much more likely that AI will replace paralegals more than attorneys, who will still be needed for so many things like actual courtroom advocacy. LEXIS AI is doing some incredible things already. As you say, things like letters etc. are great for LEXIS AI already. A lot of just regular drafting like that will go by the wayside.
Public-Cat-9568@reddit
It would have taken you less time to just Google "18 Code 32"
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/32
FinnegansWakeWTF@reddit
You've never had Google ai slop be wrong? Amazing
Public-Cat-9568@reddit
Don't you think it's a good idea to inform the OP that there are legal consequences to shooting down a drone? Amazing
Prins_Paulus@reddit
I totally believe AI generated overviews that may or may not be applicable to military UAVs
Techwarrior13@reddit
Google ai summarizes stuff pretty well. A car I was looking at importing was anywhere from 4000 - 39000 dollars. Super helpful!
correctingStupid@reddit
Reread what you wrote and tell us you would trust the option of someone with that logic.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Reread what they wrote and tell us you missed the sarcasm.
dr-bolognese@reddit
Woosh
kinginthenorth78@reddit
You can't trust an AI response on specific FAA rules and regulations LOL
kevnimus@reddit
Russian Manpad
Bubbly-University-94@reddit
Send him new rotors but…. Plot twist, they are from a mould you froze with piss in it and the piss rotors will fail and his drone will crashhhhhh
Muaaaa aha ha
enforcerthrowaway@reddit
get one of those drones with a flamethrower
panmetronariston@reddit
Speaking to the point about taking images, there is something called curtilage. Taking pics from the air over private property, even at very high resolution, is legal per the Supreme Court. However, I’ll bet flying it and taking pics at very low elevations and not synoptically is an area of law that is probably not well explored and as you say, possibly falling under state statutes.
ProductOfDetroit@reddit
Net gun
Vegetaman916@reddit
Be very, very careful with this. "Taking down" a drone is a federal crime that carries the same weight as taking down other aircraft, for the most part.
Better to follow it home, or get your own drone to follow it home, and then sandbag the owner with a police visit.
pickles_are_delish_@reddit
Fishing net would do it
jdeuce81@reddit
My first thought was a cast net.
DaGreatPenguini@reddit
Don’t even have to go that far - fishing line is cheaper and way harder to see. Tie a small fishing weight to one end and throw it over a power line, or string it up between trees with the ends dangling down. Propellers hate this.
CutsAPromo@reddit
Insane comment, how so many upvote
Duncan006@reddit
Because this is unethical life pro tips. Crazier is better.
CutsAPromo@reddit
He's suggesting throwing a cable at a power line
Gramma_Hattie@reddit
Yeah it's shocking
pickles_are_delish_@reddit
Nice
bikesexually@reddit
Unethical anti life tips
L3v147han@reddit
Sparky here.
Please refrain from touching power lines in any way. With enough voltage and/or environmental conditions, anything is a conductor.
Hot-Win2571@reddit
NOT a power line. String getting damp will ruin your day.
GardenerSpyTailorAss@reddit
NET GUN!
helloblackhole@reddit
Be careful with this as birds and other animals may get injured in the netting.
TheZwitD@reddit
String out fishing line loosely above the window for it to get tangled in the props maybe? Should be almost invisible at night
firebreathingbunny@reddit
Shoot it with an EMP cannon. Easy peasy.
DependentPriority230@reddit
Is it possible to have a signal jammer near where you see it ?
If you try it out let me know if it works
IndistinguishableRib@reddit
The Ukrainians like shotguns. Plenty of how to videos online
Iwouldntifiwereme@reddit
Get a drone of your own. Aerial combat!
Granadafan@reddit
Just train a bald eagle to snatch the drone out of the air! 🦅
clintj1975@reddit
Start feeding the local crows
jruss666@reddit
Ah, playing the long game.
Timely-Field1503@reddit
Use a drone of the same type - even if it's parked, they'll associate it with food. When the other drone shows up to spy on you....
senditloud@reddit
This is the answer
Chewbacca_The_Wookie@reddit
According to the Top Gun statute this is only legal if you attach a speaker that blares Danger Zone while you do it.
valleyislevideo@reddit
Actually not a bad idea. Fly a $20 Walmart drone into his $500 drone and that problem is solved.
To the police: I was flying ten feet above the ground on my own property. Seems to me the other pilot should've been more careful. Now we both have to replace our drones.
Liveitup1999@reddit
I have the perfect drone for that.https://youtu.be/SNPJMk2fgJU?si=_Pk4X9M0gIaT74Td
MasTacos42@reddit
And put a sock in it....
FrequentDelinquent@reddit
With a fishing pole attachment 🙀
slartbangle@reddit
Buy a drone. Park it outside out of sight. Wait for enemy drone. Follow enemy drone home. Stare in THEIR windows.
Cuttybrownbow@reddit
And then fuck their dad.
knotcivil@reddit
While looking in their eyes to establish dominance!
okeysure69@reddit
Make sure to finish while locking eyes so as to finish into their souls.
stocksandoptions2@reddit
And then wipe your dick off on the curtains.
mxpxillini35@reddit
With the drone?!?
germane_switch@reddit
No with a piss disc, silly
mxpxillini35@reddit
As is tradition in these parts.
b1llb3rt@reddit
Yes!
CpnJackSparrow@reddit
Where can one buy one of THOSE drones. (Asking for a friend.)
Asleep-Awareness-956@reddit
Bruh
zzaannsebar@reddit
I think this would work best if they don't realize that u/OP has the means to follow them.
I think to put on a ruse and keep OP's drone a secret and set up a situation: they could get privacy curtains (sheer so light comes through and you can mostly see outside but it's hard to see anything inside) for most of the windows in the house. Leave most curtains closed except for one or two windows that are in rooms that are not close to a door where you could sneakily exit the house and release your own drone. When you do spot the drone looking through one of the only open windows, you can step away for a moment to set your drone outside and put it in position and then go back to the room being peeped upon and make sure your drone operating stuff is ready (computer? standalone controller? idk what you use if you also have a camera on the drone) and also hidden from the POV of the peeping drone. When you're ready, "notice" the peeping drone in an obvious way or get up to close the curtains and hopefully it'll fly off. Then you follow with your drone.
That does depend though if the peeping drone flees or not after the operator is aware it's been spotted. I can't imagine the gall, well first of all to peep like that, but if you were peeping and continued to try to peep after being spotted.
Overall OP should definitely get a camera outside and make police reports each time the drone is spotted.
BusyWeight855@reddit
.. And drop a load of piss disks, of course
random08888@reddit
Love this idea
94ISS@reddit
Aren’t modern drones tagged with the FAA?
Just_Bored_Enough@reddit
If you are handy, directional EMP project could be fun. They aren't terribly difficult to make.
3banger@reddit
Does it really have wings?
digtigo@reddit
Take screenshots of your phones Bluetooth and WiFi that are active. That’s how the drone is controlled. It’s a start.
Strange-Style-7808@reddit
Bird netting.
You can say you have a legit reason (birds destroying plants, aggressive momma bird) and it's hard to see. It will tangle a drone right up.
Studio_T3@reddit
I came here to offer you a warning about interfereing with a drone. I see other people have.
I am a drone operator, and as one I have to do certain things beyond just buying a drone and charging it. In Canada it's slightly different, but not much. There are minimum height, loitering , flying over people guidelines that are not optional. NOTAMS to look into, a bunch of stuff to do before taking off.
But, some people think dropping Denaro is enough and give them a free pass. Ya, it doesn't work that way.
Up here there is a government page for reporting inappropriate drone operation. I wouldn't need "Proof" just date time and details of the operation, Transport Canada would then look into that. I'd bet your FAA would take it pretty seriously if you filed a report. But all that is "ethical" and that's not where we are.
A laser directed at the camera would make those rogue flights pretty useless, And a strong blast of air while you were blowing your driveway my upset the attitude enough that it might not recover. Personally I like the idea of entanglement.
GL sir.
Kestrel_VI@reddit
What exactly classes as interfering with a drone any why is it taken so seriously? Would using a signal jammer have legal consequences?
Surely someone using a drone for obviously inappropriate purposes wouldn’t go reporting that their flying perv cam suddenly went offline while hovering by someone’s window
FirstSurvivor@reddit
Not in Canada, no. The CARs don't mention any of that, and privacy laws cannot be applied in the specific way.
realityhiphop@reddit
Canada has much stricter privacy guidelines than the us. That's why insurance companies there don't use them for roof inspections like the US. All neighbors have give permission to fly one over and the insurance companies won't even ask because its invasive in Canadian culture. So I am told.
No privacy in the US.
Traditional-Day-4577@reddit
Canadian drone operator here.
I don’t know where you got that information, but none of it is factual.
No neighbours need to give permissions for flying over their property.
realityhiphop@reddit
I received carrier-specific training as an adjuster to handle claims in Canada.
WearyCarrot@reddit
Apparently your training was misinformed
adeptsleeper04@reddit
Is Denaro supposed to be dinero? Aka Spanish for money?
Vilnius_Nastavnik@reddit
Yeah, our FAA ain’t doing so hot lately.
Studio_T3@reddit
YA. I didn't really want to get into that...
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
US Government laughs at Muricans wanting Muh Privacy
cottoncandymandy@reddit
I was also being harassed by a drone, so I put up a camera on my balcony. Never came back. If it did, what I was going to take all the info and video to the FAA and file a complaint.
I know this is unethical life tips, but it's a federal offense to mess with a drone unfortunately even if it's harassing you. It's fucked up. Its a major violation and I'm sorry youre going through this. People fucking suck and the laws surrounding drones needs to be looked at for exactly this reason.
CodedRose@reddit
Fishing net.
When you take it down, make sure to pull the battery so it stops recording, and they can't try to fly it again.
Also, wrap it in tin foil so the gps in it can't be tracked.
Kestrel_VI@reddit
On top of this, whoever owns the drone is almost certainly going to come looking for it after it’s downed
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
Once you pull the battery the unit won't be able to transmit. The tinfoil is redundant.
BusyWeight855@reddit
If you were trying to prevent migratory nuisance birds to nest & strung up lines (oh, fishing lines are hard to see?), and a drone fell, you could take out the battery & toss the trash & recycle the battery (because ethically, batteries don't go in the trash). No big deal.
jrock1203@reddit
Final step, smash it to pieces and toss it in a dumpster. It trespassed, fuck it.
kwtut@reddit
that is absolutely not how that works, and also a federal crime.
you do not want to fuck with the FAA.
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
You don't know how air space works do you?
Plus, if you are in the U.S. that could get you a federal offense.
UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit
Your post or comment was removed for violating rule 1: Tips must be unethical, tips that are ethical will be removed.
Verified_source_@reddit
This isn’t the liberal sub Reddit
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
Ahh, it's the fascist one... Got it.
UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit
Your post or comment was removed for violating rule 12: No politics.
YouArentReallyThere@reddit
Dictionary much?
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
Explain how that even relates?
YouArentReallyThere@reddit
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
Says a word once, and dumb mother fuckers think that equals repetitive usage...
UnethicalLifeProTips-ModTeam@reddit
Your comment was removed for violating rule 14: No reason to be a dick. Seriously, get therapy or fuck off.
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
Drone operators have a right to the airspace under us law. Taking out a drone would be a federal offense and the FAA would investigate it. And prosecute the person who did it. They have in the past.
I believe the last person who shot a drone out of the sky had to pay something like $150,000 in fines and spent some time in federal prison. In addition to state level charges.
So no. It did not trespass.
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
Both can be true.
Navigating Drone Intrusions
-- Source
-- Source 2
The latter goes into more detail about the nuance, but "airspace" and "property" have ... fuzzy ... boundaries in many cases, and the drone operator is absolutely trespassing and/or violating privacy laws in many jurisdictions.
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
That last part is the part that I was mostly trying to get across. Shooting it down, even with a net that you throw, is a serious crime.
LiquidSoil@reddit
Get a trained falcon? :)
PositiveLess4588@reddit
First, Is there any chance you’re being investigated for anything drug related?
I ask because in ohio we have a drone task force and I personally know 3 diff homes where they used drones multiple times to check out the houses before they did their raid. It’s became a common tell around here; if any drones are seen near the dope spot they are gonna get raided soon. Ppl still aren’t super aware of the task forces existence tho and often think it’s creepy neighbors. One of my friends even followed the drone back with their own drone and it was packed into a civilian looking vehicle. He’s serving 4 years rn
Nathan-Stubblefield@reddit
I wonder how high a potato gun could carry a length of fishing line
thebootlick@reddit
Report it to the police, drone flights need to be sent to and approved by the FAA and can’t breach privacy or cross property lines (below certain altitude) without owner consent.
Narcah@reddit
No they don’t have to be sent to and approved by the FAA, at least not sub 50 lbs. you don’t even need permission to flight a private aircraft.
thebootlick@reddit
Okay, so if you live in a restricted airspace what do you need to do before flying?
If your flight data isn’t sent to the FAA then what is Remote ID?
Narcah@reddit
If you’re in airport restricted you let the tower know.
massymas12@reddit
Damn just confidently incorrect over here lol. Only time you need approval is in restricted airspace(like near an airport) and those approvals are automatic in many cases.
thebootlick@reddit
So just because you don’t know where I live or my local laws you say I’m wrong?
In my area hovering your drone over private property without consent is a good way to get a misdemeanor violation of privacy charge. They’ll just use Remote ID to track the pilot.
massymas12@reddit
Well you said FAA, aka the “Federal Aviation Administration” aka the United States federal agency. So 1) clearly you are talking about the US, 2) you said “drone flights need to be approved by the FAA” which would never be affected by local laws. FAA approval is strictly a federal function. If there is a local ordinance preventing you from flying then that approval would need to be done through your local municipality, the FAA would have nothing to do with it unless the no fly zone was instituted via a TFR (Temporary Flight Restriction). Most municipalities don’t have TFR’s in place so the request to fly wouldn’t go through the FAA.
Also super easy to build a drone without the remote ID and it’s not even required from drones less than 250 grams. The remote ID law has only been around since 2022 so there are likely tens of thousands of drones over that weight still without it. Also, remote ID isn’t magic. In OP’s case where it’s a repeat offender it’ll work, but the range of remote ID is only like 400 feet, it’s not like everyone in the world will know everything about your flight forever and it’s not stored anywhere (at least no in the US with remote ID, network ID in the EU is a different story). Either way, doesn’t make you less incorrect about your first statement lol
thebootlick@reddit
I live in restricted airspace, so yes in my case all flights need to be approved
Neromatic@reddit
Lol. No.
I'm TRUST certified and studying for my 107 license.
You can fly over people's property all you want. There are definitely no fly zones that should be known during your preflight check, but there are way too many nuances to say you can't fly over someone's property. What you said is flat out not true.
thebootlick@reddit
You do realize that there’s this thing called local, county, and state laws right? I was speaking for my area…
In my area observing people or recording them in their homes is illegal, which could be traced back to you using the Drone Zone Remote ID and you’ll get charged with misdemeanor violation of privacy.
spammmmmmmmy@reddit
Down the drone and monitor it where it lies on the ground. If it's not a serious predator, they will come back to get it. Be prepared to follow them and see where they go!
You can down a drone by shooting a sticky net at it. You might need to improve there... Make sure to keep it out of sight before you pull it out, as the drone obviously has a camera.
fordyuck@reddit
Literally a cool slingshot will take out a drone. Pull the card and see if you can follow back the origin.
SecretOscarOG@reddit
Put reflective or mirror tape in all your windows.
The_Bandit_King_@reddit
Throw a piss ballon at it
Electrical_Match3673@reddit
Shotgun.
Then wait for someone looking for a drone.
3X_Cat@reddit
Become a falconer
Brilliant-Basil-884@reddit
Get one of those long-handled pool nets, capture it next time you see it's spying on you (but don't look at it or give yourself away) and that's it. For all the people saying it's the same as stealing a whole airplane, this person is spying on you and committing a crime first.
This is your property. On that note do you live in one of those stand your ground states? Shoot it! I think if you destroy it thoroughly enough, whatever "tracker" they may or may not have on the drone would be destroyed, too. Just in case, smash the f*ck out of it with a baseball bat, take the parts and dump them somewhere, and wash your hands of it. What is the predator who's doing this to you going to do, call the cops and say they were using a drone to peeping tom you and spy in your windows and got consequences?
FlounderAccording125@reddit
Buy a fish net, and toss it at the drone. Then wait for the owner to show up.🤷🏼♂️
Adventurous_Bonus917@reddit
use some sort of gun. BB gun, paintball gun, water gun, gun gun, net gun, spear/harpoon gun, grenade launcher, whatever floats your boat.
Intrepid-Distance-54@reddit
This is really stupid (especially if you’re in the US). Drones have cameras and even a BB gun getting shot is a misdemeanor in most places.
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
Interfering with the operation of an aircraft is a federal felony.
People have been fined over $100,000 and sentenced to prison time for causing drones to crash.
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
The likelihood of a max fine should be low if it is a neighbor screwing around. I would think.
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
The case I'm most familiar with was a guy shooting down his neighbor's drone because he thought it was spying on his children.
And that guy got fined six figures and sentenced to 30 days in jail. First offense. And then there were firearms charges at the state level on top of that reckless discharge of a firearm or something like that.
Interfering with an aircraft in flight is like a Federal felony and they don't mess around.
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
Sounds to me like it was more the firearm that exacerbated or caused that response and seriousness of the charges and punishment.
Would the outcome have been the same if he had not used a firearm? Like what if he used a hose or some other harmless measure instead? I sense the case you are familiar with is more because he shot a firearm up in the air near other homes.
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
I don't believe the federal charges involve the firearm at all. It was simply interfering with the flight of an aircraft. I believe it's the same thing that people who shine laser pointers at planes get charged with.
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
I meant that there is discretion when officers show up to investigate a call and prosecutors decide what if any charges to pursue. Shooting a firearm is what likely caused a major reaction, regardless of the specific charges filed. Hard to overlook shooting into the sky anywhere other than a rural area.
Scenario 1: Neighbors report old Boomer shooting shotgun into the sky at drone in his neighborhood. Officers respond and homeowner confirms he did fire a round or two with an AR or shotgun because the neighbor with the drone was harassing him and his family. Charged with various crimes, likely pled down to a lower level based on no criminal record. Just for example.
Scenario 2: Guy/kid reports his toy drone brought down by neighbor, subsequent investigation reveals drone was flying over neighbor's property and near a second floor bedroom window. Homeowner was alarmed for his wife's privacy in her own bedroom so he pointed his power washer hose at the hobby drone causing it to drop to the ground (or fly away unscathed). The homeowner now wants to press charges against the drone operator for violating applicable laws (i.e. you can't do that). The drone operator wants Federal charges filed for knocking or trying to knock his drone out of the sky. Officers on scene decide that this is a wash. Or consult with supervisors who advise same. Or they arrest both and drop the charges after the prosecutor realizes this is a loser case. Tell the drone operator not to fly over people's property and tells the homeowner to call them from now on. Case closed.
By the way I just remembered a case ten years ago where a friend of our family had this happen to her (a kid flying his drone over her property when she was in her pool). She called the sheriff and he told her to report the guy with the drone if it happened again. It did not. She told him she would knock it out of the sky and he laughed. She wasn't kidding.
Here is another example that supports my assessment (that the use of a firearm is what raises hackles and this was a commercial drone flying under FAA Part 107 and this was not a hobby drone flown by a kid). https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/crime/florida-man-drone-walmart-dennis-winn/77-4fa34cd5-9924-4c11-b7f5-68a42611cf14
Deep-Hovercraft6716@reddit
So I did a little googling and apparently there are a lot of instances of this now. So much so that I can't tell exactly which one is the one I was reading about years ago.
It looks like people are generally charged at the state level with menacing or reckless endangerment or some variation on that. Apparently it has happened in at least half a dozen different states.
Google says:
nuclearmonte@reddit
Salt gun ought to work. Spray that damn thing and take it down
phathomthis@reddit
Have you ever used one? Those things are pretty weak. They're good for mosquitoes, but struggle with even flies. You think they can take down a drone¿
Constant-Sandwich-88@reddit
You can shoot yourself in the leg from 1" and it won't leave a mark. Fun for bugs, a drone wouldn't even register it.
MathIsHard_11236@reddit
Lemon gun, coconut gun, garlic gun...
That's...that's about it.
IAmTheLizardQueen666@reddit
Thanks, Bubba
MIweedloverOOS@reddit
You forgot flamethrower 🤣
Adventurous_Bonus917@reddit
might not have enough range.
SwoodyBooty@reddit
Get those "medium pressure" battery powered pressure washers. Gas can with diesel and a little torch.
WillyWanka-69@reddit
Yeah, diesel
SirTwitchALot@reddit
Most of those wouldn't be too bad, but be careful firing projectiles into the air. A woman was killed at a 4th of July show in my town because some idiot fired a gun into the air. What goes up must come down
VixenTraffic@reddit
A Motion activated camera will record it looking in your window.
A motion activated sprinkler might bring it down.
Unfair-Language7952@reddit
Get 2 drones with a fishing or badminton net between them. Come up from behind and snare your prey.
kileme77@reddit
Just get a 12' bull whip and start practicing.
AD29@reddit
12 gauge shotgun..bird load
cascasrevolution@reddit
blind the fucker with a laser pointer
LocalMarsupial9@reddit
Get good with a boomerang 🪃
ModsRTryhards@reddit
You could buy a ring camera or whatever.
But since this is ULPT, attach a auto-targeting machine gun to it.
NightMgr@reddit
Falconry.
bigdave41@reddit
Can you train falcons in a specific method of attack that doesn't involve them getting chopped up by spinning rotors?
PwnBr0k3r@reddit
Armored falcons.
jimmybilly100@reddit
With wing-tip knives
elricardo1945@reddit
This is the correct answer.
https://youtu.be/rah_i7FFGRw?si=oRmhorZlISF44UmQ
FiercestBunny@reddit
This could make a fun story. Trained falcons (or crows--they like shiny things!) intercepting drones and collecting them for their master. Are the birds serving the right side? Are they merely collecting random hobby drones, or have they noticed a sinister pattern?
drumscrubby@reddit
If it doesn’t record anyone with a pellet rifle shooting it down, there’s no on to hold liable. “In theory” such a person as that could hold up in the bushes in wait and flank its visual orientation
Dino7813@reddit
You know you can buy a fully automatic BB gun on Amazon? They have low fps, so the individual BBs don’t carry enough power to hurt anything past probably 100 feet. But it would certainly fuck up a drone.
chicagogal85@reddit
Look up Robo Rounds
TootyYeBooty@reddit
15 kills for a EMP I believe. Problem solved.
The_Arch_Heretic@reddit
Impromptu fireworks display!!! Give him something to film.
JJHall_ID@reddit
Any "unethical" response here will be suggestions of committing federal crimes, so keep that in mind as you're reading any suggestions of jamming, shooting it, catching it in a net, etc. The FAA controls all airspace in the USA and they consider any attempt to tamper with or damage/destroy a drone no different than tampering with or damaging/destroying an Airbus. In short, don't do it!
Your two best options would be to first see if the drone is transmitting Remote ID. There are apps for looking for nearby RIDs for both Android and iOS, but due to OS limitations on Apple phones, the Android apps are the best way to go. If you can get the RemoteID, that will give you the serial number of the drone and give you a route to submit a complaint to the FAA, and/or to local law enforcement. Even though local law enforcement can't do anything about the drone flying since they have no jurisdiction over the airspace, there may be "peeping tom" laws they can still use to prosecute the pilot. Depending on the model, some RID systems also transmit the GPS location of the controller which can help you determine where the pilot is located.
Another option would be to get your own drone, and when you see the offending drone again, launch yours and follow it back to its launch point. From there you should be able to easily determine who is the pilot/owner and have a "friendly" conversation with them and/or report them to law enforcement.
SeaSetsuna@reddit
Bird deterrent sprinkler
shoeberger@reddit
Gun
Robocup1@reddit
I fly drones for work. Are you sure they are peeping into your home? First of all, it’s really hard for a drone to look through a window during daytime due to window reflection. Second of all, there’s a lot of legit reasons drones are flown- real estate, commercial photos/videos, insurance, solar, communications etc etc. Are you sure you are not just being paranoid?
tighterlikethat@reddit
Many states & localities prohibit capturing video/images of people INSIDE their homes without their consent, including by drones, such as CA, TX, FL, MI, OH, NC, PA, OK, SC, TN, WA. Virginia prohibits flying a drone within 50 ft of a dwelling.
The drone you described sounds like a classic Peeping Tom, so you should record it on your phone and file a police report. If the operator sees you recording his drone, it may deter him.
I assume the intrusion is a 2nd story window, so prepare a garden hose with high-pressure spout (from Lowe's or Home Depot) and water turned on. At next visit, spray it to the ground, remove SD card, smash the drone to bits, and bury the remnants.
It's highly unlikely the Peeping Tom is recording remotely, so the only evidence will be on the sd card. No Drone, no problem.
Dipping_My_Toes@reddit
Just out of curiosity, why is it that every single rule and law about drones is all centered on how they can go anywhere, film anyone, anytime and people have absolutely no right to protect themselves from the abusive intrusiveness of these freaking peeping toms? There is absolutely no enforcement, no protection and no way to do anything because you're not allowed to knock the damn thing out of the air even if it slams right into your face. Filing reports does nothing when law enforcement refuses to take the problem seriously and follow up.
andrew867@reddit
Is silly string still a thing? Keep some next to your window and give it a try lol hang onto the drone until someone comes to try and get it, get their contact info ‘in case you find it’ and call the cops. Check the drone for a MicroSD card and grab the footage off it
DaGreatPenguini@reddit
Silly string is also very flammable. Avoid spraying it over birthday cakes and active fusion reactors.
xsmp@reddit
birthday cakes are fucking dangerous if improperly handled.
Careless-Age-4290@reddit
Honestly that's why I've switched all the kids over to active fusion reactors
xsmp@reddit
smart move.
Whodoesntlikeanal@reddit
You could get your own drone or drones and wait for it to arrive and then attack it. Maybe get the family involved and do a full scale attack.
Subp00714@reddit
A: Build an EMP gun (search you tube) or blast it with (obey all state and local ordinances) bird shot from a shot gun.
B: Drive a length of pipe into the ground in order to place its deactivated carcass on display.
C: Install covert surveillance eqpt to see who fetches the remains.
BAZINGA! Pull the shades and dont worry about it
shitakebbq@reddit
4 metal 3/8” bolt washers tied together with fishing line in a small net pattern fired from a wrist rocket slingshot
Overall-Potential438@reddit
I just got a new pressure washer and it came with a nozzle for cleaning 2nd story siding. It shoots about 50 feet.
monkeywelder@reddit
\just remember. dont get caught.. shooting a drone down has the same legal weight as shooting down a 747 if you could run one through fishing line
kinginthenorth78@reddit
It doesn't have even near the same legal weight. Not even close man. LOL
monkeywelder@reddit
its the same law that covers both, so yeah man
kinginthenorth78@reddit
What do mean by “same law?” If by same law you mean they are both sound in the section of federal law that deal with aircraft, which is thousand and thousands of pages, sure. NOT covered by any of the same particular statutes by a long-shot. Source: I’m a lawyer.
monkeywelder@reddit
its literally one paragraph in title18 that covers the whole tamale .youre a sucky lawyer if that is your answer.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
You think all the laws that cover drones and passenger jets are in one paragraph such that the “same law” covers them? 🤣🤷♂️
monkeywelder@reddit
yep according to DOJ they seem to have that covered. Its actually 8 paragraphs.
its not DK. its called RIF. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more complicated than I care to get in to here especially when the audience has more DK than I do.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Man to think it's all covered in 8 paragraphs! Why the heck to they take so long in pilot school and law school. Total rip off!
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Let me just take it to its conclusion here. You think someone shooting down their neighbors unmanned drone is covered by any of the same statutes as someone shooting down a passenger jet. Just clarifying what I *think* you're saying. If you're not saying that, please clarify.
monkeywelder@reddit
call the FAA and tell them you been shooting some drones down and see how they swarm over your ass
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
LOL
OP should look up the local or state laws on drone operations near and over private property
There is virtually no legal protection for a drone to fly up to someone's home and look int he window. OP should get video of that of course before taking action to corroborate his story. A neighbor spying on you with a hobby drone does not equal an airliner.
dementeddigital2@reddit
Technically, yes. Practically, no.
A court of law isn't going to treat those cases remotely the same.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Not even "technically yes." Not even close to the same legal consequences. LOL
monkeywelder@reddit
its the same law that covers both, so technically yes
kinginthenorth78@reddit
You keep saying “it’s the same law.” What do mean by that? It’s the same law only in the most vague sense of the term. You should look up the Dunning-Kruger Effect. That’s what I’m getting here.
Munky1701@reddit
Nerf gun or gel ball gun.
pickledeggmanwalrus@reddit
You’re going to end up with a felony attacking that drone.
What you need to do is contact the FAA and report someone in your area is flying a drone out of their line of sight.
As fucked up as this sounds, it could be your insurance adjuster looking at your property and could have a permit to be flying. I doubt it is, but there are actual legal possibilities it could be.
Reporting to the FAA is probably going to be your best bet. Report Everytime you see it in your yard and have no visual on the operator.
H-2-S-O-4@reddit
If it's that close to your window, use a pool net ir fishing net
BusyWeight855@reddit
How about motion activated sprinklers? Like you would normally use on cats, but since the cats are always running up-and-down the fence and climbing your window screen, mount it by your window. So that anything that flies by your window is shot at with water.
Hefty-Instruction-73@reddit
If it’s DJI you can use an android app to see its remote id. It should show you where the operator is standing.
TokiWart00th88@reddit
Ghillie suit, wait in your backyard, down drone > wait for owner to retrieve > profit
talking-heads-77@reddit
Is it the same window each time? I’d hang this bird netting out like an awning and stretch it out to some stakes in the yard. Probably difficult for the drone camera to see and it will get tangled up. From there I would grab the drone while wearing a mask, bag it up, and drive it to a public dumpster away from your property.
cali_dude_1@reddit
Tethered blimp/ party balloons.
MrUsername24@reddit
Loosely tried fishing string where you think you've seen it. Wait for a bang then go out to watch for someone picking it up
absyrtus@reddit
if you're able to capture the drone, then perform drone forensics, you can use the flight logs to substantiate the flight path origination/date and time, then report this information to the feds.
absyrtus@reddit
how close can you get to it? try silly string if it's literally outside of your window.
willisfitnurbut@reddit
Net Gun Air-Powered with 4 Pre-Loaded Nets
Vegaprime@reddit
Heavily regulated by the faa since around 2020. All drones .55lbs have to be registered now but the rest still have to follow guidelines and have remote id. I'd start with them.
Interesting_Reason54@reddit
Just blast it with a shotgun
sparkchaser@reddit
What county do you live in?
Groundbreaking_Cat_9@reddit
String fishing line around your home and see if it gets snagged:).
Direction-Miserable@reddit
Toilet paper rolls, super easy to throw over the drone and the props suck it right up. Takes it down quick
Chr15ty@reddit
Get a camera in your window that is motion activated. Start lining your yard with fishing line. The perp will come get their drone once it flies into something unseen and now you have a record.
Soldoubt-ATX@reddit
Search class 4 green laser. Grab one on Amazon. Blinds the camera. They’ll have to visually guide it back to themselves and they won’t see you following it because the camera is now fried.
Wryrhino1@reddit
Option 1 - Slingshot with mono line fishing filament. Shoot over and tangle props with string and reel it in.
Option 2 - Laser the camera sensor. No more camera.
ShakeWeightMyDick@reddit
There are radio frequency guns which disrupt the radio signal of the drone and will knock them out if the air. I’m pretty sure they’re illegal to possess in the US though, so you probably shouldn’t build one.
deftoner42@reddit
Load up a fishing pole with a sinker at the end and cast away
growth492@reddit
Shoot it outta the air and when the owner comes to collect kick their ass, sounds like their stocking to learn routines and scope the house for valuables so I'd take no chances
AWholeNewFattitude@reddit
Silly string?
Dhaupin@reddit
I came here to say this as well. Party time!
R3ginaG3org3@reddit
EMP grenade anyone?
PolyDrew@reddit
How about simple sprinklers? Mounted to your eaves?
Planterizer@reddit
Tshirt cannon
ihadagoodone@reddit
Shotgun.
Keep property value and by extension taxes down and down a drone.
Vikingkrautm@reddit
We own a certain measurement of land under our properties (8' maybe?) and I think also a certain distance above. Find out, so you know where the "line" is.
Hexpe@reddit
"pretty sure there's a drone"? How are you not absolutely certain? I'm "pretty sure" you're delusional
steevo@reddit
Do make a video of it
Prestigious_Fun_0159@reddit
https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/where_can_i_fly/airspace_101
Ok_Muffin_925@reddit
In keeping spirit with this sub, I like those snaky foam shooter things kids used to have. I also like water hoses -- really powerful ones. There are laws on drones and airspace management but they are very murky and obscure as is the origin and owner of this drone you speak of. Relying on calling coppers is going to push them to the limit of their personal and official bandwidth and they will literally default to mansplaining or copsplaining to you what you can never do now that they have spoken to you or else while doing nothing about the mystery drone (unless it happens to be above them when they are at your home). Capture plenty of video footage of the offender before doing anything if for no other reason than to gain empathy of cops or judges should you get in trouble for any "accidents." Remember they have cameras too. Remember what Joe Biden's brother said, "plausible denial."
"Gee I was just watering these trees with my power hose officer, I had no idea there was a drone above me,,,, but I do have tons of video evidence of a drone that was harassing my family a while back, let me show you."
raleighs@reddit
Aliexpress - VCO Frequency Sweep
MineExplorer@reddit
Cheap Trail Cam - something that is set off by movement, that will show a timestamp on the capture, which will show the drone pausing to look in your window. If that doesn't stop them (when they know you've seen them) then as others have said, netting to knock it down.
Meridienne@reddit
Potato gun. You won’t get in any trouble since it’s not a weapon.
theFooMart@reddit
You could throw literally anything at it. You can also buy a signal jammer, but that might just activate the drones return to home feature.
Now this is beyond trespassing or not of the simple stuff you see in this sub. Using a signal jammer will make the FCC mad and it can get you fines worth tens of thousands of dollars. Also drones are legally aircraft just like a passenger jet. Threating an aircraft can lead to five years in jail. Damaging or destroying an aircraft is a felony and can lead to twenty years in jail. So make sure you think it's worth it.
kinginthenorth78@reddit
Drones are legal aircraft, but do not enjoy near the protection of passenger jets. Just a little clarification.
ymymhmm_179@reddit
Get a firecracker those ones that shoot out of a long pipe and take aim should be fun
ymymhmm_179@reddit
Drone gun im sure china town has it
Ka-Is-A-Wheelie@reddit
If you are in the U.S. you would be committing a federal crime. I know we are in Unethical LPT, but you should still be aware of potential repercussions.
nikdahl@reddit
You’re saying you want to purposely bring down an FAA regulated aircraft?
Seriously. If caught, it would be the same legal weight as if you brought down a Boeing jet. Think about it.
XemptOne@reddit
shotgun...
barra_giano@reddit
Use the paper streamer launchers, you know the tubes you twist and streamers shoot into the air, that's more than enough to bring down a drone, also not malicious as you're just celebrating your freedom to shoot streamers into the air in your own property, you didn't even know the drone was there!
Kind_Mountain1657@reddit
String up some clear fishing line criss crossing it's usual flight path
ReturnYourCarts@reddit
Just be aware that damaging a drone and then contacting the owner will likely result in you getting in trouble, even arrested and sued and fined. There are many cases on the books now so it's pretty cut and dry depending on your state.
In fact the drone will have a camera and record what happened. That's evidence. It will have an internal sd card for the camera.
WillyWanka-69@reddit
Wings? Do you have fucking MQ-9 flying over your house?
wisebongsmith@reddit
Bird bola if you can get outside quick enough. If you've got trees you could try running some fishing lines between your trees and your house and let it snag itself.
manualsquid@reddit
Motion activated sprinklers?
victor4700@reddit
I think this would do the trick
https://www.reddit.com/r/sungladlasers/s/Sub41Sxcuw
IJustWantToWorkOK@reddit
Drone pilot here:
I can tell you personally, I'm looking more 'out' than 'down'. I don't care what's going on in people's houses or yards, I want to know if that water tower I see on the horizon is really 40 miles away.
Sorry you have a bad actor on your hands, but it's not me.
Original_Telephone_2@reddit
Likely story, pervert
taintmaster900@reddit
Put down the pipe sir
Actually wait shit, the unethical thing would be to tell you to smoke MORE meth...
Sir_Vey0r@reddit
Just go casting with your fishing rod. If it’s house level you got a decent change of hitting a snag. And once they see what you’re up to, they should look for greener pastures.
ranchwriter@reddit
Good way to practice your casting accuracy
azraelum@reddit
Get a video camera and let it record at the spot where you think it usually is, when you have your proof and obtain the when it roughly arrives then set your trap. A few sewing strings tied around the area should hopefully hit one of its rotors, get a motion light as well and aim it so it would not turn on until the very last moment, should startle the person on the other end to make a mistake and crash it as well. if it’s low enough to view your window then it’s trespassing at that point.
imscruffythejanitor@reddit
You could get several feet of ball chain at the hardware store. Try wadding it up then throwing it to try to foul up the propellers? Just a thought
ELPoupa@reddit
If it's a DJI you can track it, anything else you won't be able
elquizzi311@reddit
Is it close enough where you could shoot it with a paintball gun?