Poland to report Musk's chatbot Grok to EU for offensive comments

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berryer@reddit

Issues of political biases, hate speech and accuracy of AI chatbots have been a concern since at least the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT in 2022.

longer than that. How have we forgotten Tay so quickly?

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Being able to make offensive comments about politicians is about as fundamental to free speech as you can get. Policing this type of speech is shit you expect Putin or Orban to do and has no place in the EU.

Also isn't Reddit filled with the exact same thing?

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dhldri@reddit

Free speech is a human right bozo an automated system of abuse hurling should never be allowed, since you know, it’s not a human.

I swear so many amazing uses for AI but we got people defending ai abuse bots lmao. Ps sto spamming this point.

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BendicantMias@reddit

So basically boils down to discrimination? AI speech bad cos it's not a person, much like, say, black folk speech used to be bad cos they weren't persons?

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Almechik@reddit

You had to repeat kindergarden didn't you

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BendicantMias@reddit

Don't think so. Don't have any significant memories of kindergarden to suggest it. It seems you do tho. Was it so traumatic for you that you're still thinking of kindergarden so many years later? There there little cub. I'm sure you'll move on...someday.

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batnat711@reddit

Are you seriously comparing real living breathing human people and the racism they faced, to a computer program praising hitler and people saying 'hmm, this might be bad'??

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BendicantMias@reddit

Even using your own argument, that program is being used by people. Whether it's about AI or humans, either way you look at it you're just trying to push for ever more censorship.

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giant_shitting_ass@reddit

You say this as if we don't already have bots saying "fuck trump" all over the place

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dhldri@reddit

Clearly your brain is a bit mouldy. But I’m going to repeat this, automated systems of creating any type of abuse, should never be allowed it’s a waste of resources that could be used for anything even remotely productive.

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giant_shitting_ass@reddit

10: print("fuck the prime minister") 20: goto 10

Deal with it.

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dhldri@reddit

Actually yes. The fact that energy is being wasted on a bots spewing more nonsense, instead of actually assisting people. Says a lot about the intentions of the people who made in the first place.

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BendicantMias@reddit

Why are you wasting so much energy on Reddit bro? Why don't you, idk, go cure cancer or something? Also please break up with your partner if you have one, and estrange your family. They're distracting you from maximizing your economic value contribution to society.

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giant_shitting_ass@reddit

we should limit expression and activities based on a subjective evaluation of their economic value

Reddit moment 🥀

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BendicantMias@reddit

The AI is serving its users. It's productive for them, and you're no one to decide otherwise.

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FlyingSquirrel44@reddit

Yeah won't somebody think of poor little Erdogan getting clowned on by a chat bot?

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bannedByTencent@reddit

Praising Hitler is a free speech? Then no, hard no. At least in Europe.

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Festering-Fecal@reddit

Technically we don't have free speech we have protected speech.

Burning the flag was ruled a form of protected protesting when it used to be illegal.

You also can't follow a person screaming at someone all day especially if it's a credible death threat.

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Xtrems876@reddit

Eagerly awaiting some dumbass to defend an automated chatbot being allowed to output tweets saying that the polish PM should "suck a cock" as freedom of speech necessary to protect us from orwellian government tyrranny

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Strikingprotocol@reddit

Damn you ain't licking the boot, you are straight up deepthroating it.

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Pretty sure it said that there should be a second Holocaust recently as well

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Jay_Jay_Jason_74@reddit

It did say that Hitler needed to come back as a response to a Jewish woman having a controversial opinion

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Adiv_Kedar2@reddit

Apparently it wasn't even a Jewish woman someone created the account, made the tweet, and deleted it after the response

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PastryAssassinDeux@reddit

proof that it wasn't a jewish woman?

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wellknownname@reddit

Was this comment written by MechaHitler? In response to the fact that a racist AI falsely accused a Jewish woman of celebrating Christian deaths because her name was 'Steinberg', your comment is 'prove that they weren't Jewish'?

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PastryAssassinDeux@reddit

So you have no proof just going on feels? Or is it a conspiracy against jewish people?

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wellknownname@reddit

It's a LLM hallucination. What's your obsession with Jewish people? Perhaps it was a Jewish women. Or a white Anglo Saxon protestant. Or perhaps it was a bigoted Reddit commenter.

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overtoke@reddit

it

they should be attributed to elon musk, not grok.

these are musk thoughts, ideas and quotes that grok is being forced to adhere to.

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tea_snob10@reddit

So basically what a bunch of neo-nazis in the west and arabs in MENA post constantly online?

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RoostasTowel@reddit

But you want every chatbot coded so that it is unable to use certain words and phrases?

If you make it so they can't say anything mean don't even bother creating it.

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Czart@reddit

Your terms are acceptable.

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abcdefghi_12345jkl@reddit

Oh we understand dude 😂

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giant_shitting_ass@reddit

Mocking politicians is a core aspect of free speech. You're on a site that does nothing but that.

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Xtrems876@reddit

oh my god I actually caught one

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tanloopy@reddit

Yeah dude, you should be allowed to tell your PM to suck a cock.

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Xtrems876@reddit

I'm, as you said, a dude. This large language model published on Twitter - is not a dude.

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tanloopy@reddit

So you agree that people can say it just not AI chat bots

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Xtrems876@reddit

That was pretty much my argument, yes - though it's more about the difference between me being just a regular person, and this chatbot being an integral part of a product used by hundreds of millions of people.

In the same way as I wouldn't really have a problem with Musk saying such things or making tweets about it, but I would have a problem with him buying up billboards to say this or with him promoting such tweets above others by tweaking the algorithm. It's about power and influence, less so about the message being organically sourced. If you tweak the chatbot to insult certain politicians, and then integrate that chatbot into your product, then you're just a shadowy rich foreigner running a campaign to influence elections in my country.

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AwkwardTal@reddit

I agree with you, if the door is open for chat/ai allowing it free reign to "insert what ever offence you want" to other humans it will 100% be weaponized to harass, stalk and generally make people's lives worse

You thought someone tweeting at you a bad comment is "eh who cares?" Think about an AI who can find you on every digital platform, your family, clients or people you work for and just and go after them too to get at you, imagine it generating pictures of you and sending it to your family, deep fakes etc

This is a Pandora's box of automated harassment

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tanloopy@reddit

This conversation is so 2025 lmao. Yeah that part raises interesting questions.

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giant_shitting_ass@reddit

Heh heh if I preemptively disparage anyone who disagrees with me on a controversial speech issue that means nobody can respond with a different viewpoint

I am very smart

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Wielkimati@reddit

What the fuck is a venmo

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pigeon_shit_evrywhre@reddit

Tool used by the free folks. You wouldn't understand.

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Wielkimati@reddit

Idk man, you free folks always seem to have worse versions of stuff we have.

In Poland we have 'Blik', it allows us to send each other money using just a phone number connected to our bank accounts. Is Venmo something similar?

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drink_with_me_to_day@reddit

Catch this

Automated AI bots saying your PM sucks is an integral part of democracy

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Civsi@reddit

saying that the polish PM should "suck a cock" as freedom of speech

I don't think this is as convincing an argument as you think. Those other comments mentioned bellow? Yeah, those cross quite a few lines, but throwing an everyday insult at a politician? If I can tell you to suck a dick in the street and not expect the long hard dick of the law to fuck me, this bot can do the same online.

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Prize-Money-9761@reddit

Actually you could potentially face sexual harassment charges if you told a random person on the street to suck your dick

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Civsi@reddit

Alright, fair I suppose. Let's assume the insult is thrown in the middle of a conversation both parties consented to and assume there is sufficient context for a reasonable individual to understand the phrase was used as an insult and not a request for sexual favors.

Telling random people to suck your dick in the street and online is obviously.... Problematic.

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PIPXIll@reddit

Your words (and the quote given from the AI) was to suck "a dick" and not "your/my dick"

It's not asking or demanding sexual favors. Pedantic? Maybe. But so are the laws we deal with.

You can (or should) be able to tell any world leader to cram >!the biggest, smelliest, most unwashed, uncut, cheese riddled dick, as well as!< their opinions into any orifice. And they should also have the freedom to tell you where to stick yours too.

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Fullyswirled@reddit

Crazy police state we live in, what an outlandish way for the state to exert control.

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Kizik@reddit

Yeah, really insane. They should exert control by sending unmarked, masked agents to abduct people off the street like a proper nation.

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Fullyswirled@reddit

I think we actually agree on the out of control monitoring of an unjust police state. Two things can be true at once; I think the U.S. overtly militarized police force (including immigration)is completely insane and also for example, I should be able to tell you or anyone else to “suck my dick” as an expression and not be arrested for it. You know?

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LeGrandLucifer@reddit

It isn't but at the same time it's a fucking chatbot. It's going to say stupid shit, no matter what.

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Moarbrains@reddit

Eagerly awaiting your masterplan on how to limit speech output from LLMs that doesn't hurt your feelings.

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Baderkadonk@reddit

I'll be the dumbass I guess.

No government should concern itself with a shitposting bot, nor should any waste resources trying to fight it. Whoever has the job to deal with this should be spending their time doing literally anything else.

Since when do insulting tweets matter at all? Why is it different if it's not a human? The whole thing is pretty funny to me, and it becomes even funnier when someone's pride is actually wounded by an AI tweet.

It actually might be nice if more AI used a more unhinged communication style. If you listen to Grok, it's pretty easy to realize you need to take everything with a grain of salt. Other AI will get something wrong but say it in a way that sounds convincing and correct.

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Poland to report Musk's chatbot Grok to EU for offensive comments

WARSAW - Poland is going to report Elon Musk’s xAI to the European Commission after its chatbot Grok made offensive comments about Polish politicians, including Prime Minister Donald Tusk.

Issues of political biases, hate speech and accuracy of AI chatbots have been a concern since at least the launch of OpenAI's ChatGPT in 2022.

Grok removed what it called "inappropriate" social media posts on Tuesday after complaints from X users and the Anti-Defamation League that Grok produced content with antisemitic tropes and praise for Adolf Hitler.

A Turkish court earlier blocked access to some content from Grok after authorities said the chatbot generated responses insulting President Tayyip Erdogan, modern Turkey's founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and religious values.

Poland's digitisation minister, Krzysztof Gawkowski, told RMF FM radio on Wednesday that the government will ask Brussels to investigate the chatbot's offensive comments about its politicians.

"I have the impression that we are entering a higher level of hate speech, which is driven by algorithms, and that turning a blind eye or ignoring this today... is a mistake that may cost humanity in the future," he said.

"The Ministry of Digitisation will react in accordance with current regulations, we will report the violation to the European Commission to investigate and possibly impose a fine on X. Freedom of speech belongs to humans, not to artificial intelligence."

The chatbot's developer xAI did not immediately reply to an emailed request for comment. REUTERS

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