Where exactly? I hate live action as much as the next guy, but it seems they’re very successful and profitable, that’s why there is an infinite number of them.
Oh nice! The cast was great! Too bad they butchered the story, the characters stories, and even a whole quarter of the movie which they didn't bother to add because apparently the old movie sucked.
They didn't have the main bad alien, pleekly's main character trait of enjoying female clothes wasn't there, Jumba was a huge asshole, and yeah, the ending was shite. It's unfortunate people keep paying for these shitty ass remakes haha
Let's be real, a big majority of "normies" that liked the previous movie and went to watch this one do not give a flying fuck about none of those things. They bought and watched the movie because they just wanted to watch a live action CGI Stitch and that's it, they enjoyed that.
It's slop for the masses, and they are gonna eat it good.
I have no idea why people think that a character needs to look like the original in an adaptation. This has never been true, not for book adaptations, not for comic adaptations, but for some reason gamers piss their pants over this.
Why are you so fixated on what she looks like? The only thing that people should care about is if she plays the role of Ellie well, especially since she was only 14 in the first game.
Also, casting based on just looks is how you get unenthusiastic actors that turn greatly written movies into unwatchable slop.
She does do a fairly good job of acting like the same character. I haven't watched S2 yet, but she very much nailed the snarky, bratty Ellie energy from the first game in S1.
she very much nailed the snarky, bratty Ellie energy from the first game
Did we play the same game? For example, in her first scene with Joel she attempts to emphasize with him("I hate bad dreams"), and in the second one, where Joel literally tells Ellie "shut up and do as I say" she agrees with him. Ellie verbally spars with Joel only two times in the entire game, and in both cases it's warranted and justifiable. She disobeys only once for the entire game
I think we all know why she gets hate. It's her appearance and that's that.
It's so stupid how the show has actual problems and people keep picking on her appearance alone. Yes, there were actresses who looked like Ellie much more, but tbh idc, there's stuff in this series that is just insanely cringy and people barely talk about it bc "Bella Ramsey ugley" or sum. Like, okay dude, whatever. The game is there anyway, it's not like the source material doesn't have a story. You can literally go there and play it right now.
Of course there are other issues that people actually talk about, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of discourse I see about it is about Bella Ramsey either being non-binary, or being ugly.
Ramsey just seems to be one of those actors lots of people have a weird hate boner on for no reason as far as I can tell. So they'll believe anything about her as long as its negative
“For no reason” bro she single handily ruined TLoU series. She’s easily the worst part, her acting sucks, she has no resemblance to the character she’s portraying when other characters some what do. People who were actual fans of that series were let down with the live action portrayal of it, that’s why some people might dislike her
I know nothing of TLoU, but most of the time, when people blame the acting, they don’t understand the role of the director and how much could bad acting be attributed to bad directing instead.
A movie is not the director saying « Action ! Now do your acting thing you know how to do » and let the actor loose.
The first season was great and she did a good job. The problem is the story spans too long of a stretch for her to remain convincing. She needed the dynamic from the first season to succeed. The change in character and the focus of her role is not something Ramsay was able to carry, not to mention the pretty poor writing to go along with it.
I haven't done that myself, but if they kind of do look like a potato, and they are a wealthy celebrity? Sure man who cares? They're gonna be just fine, wiping their tears with $100 bills.
You realize this is a 4chan adjacent shitposting subreddit, right?
They got the role because of their dad. That’s pretty irritating if you ask me. Also why do you cast someone who looks nothing like the original and who doesn’t even have the right gender for the role? Why not just cast Samuel L. Jackson? He’s a pretty good actor…
It's from a scene in Justice League. She has very wooden delivery. Also there is no way she would even know supes real name at this point. I mostly see it on r/okbuddycinephile but in a few other places too.
Uh I have seen people on both Reddit and Instagram drag her butt across the floor, the roof and the sidewalk. Even more so after her supporting Israel.
People mock her incessantly. She’s not being posted because she isn’t in any current popular mainstream media that also happens to have a hardcore existing dedicated fan base.
People on here love spreading misinformation while downvoting others asking for their source of information and gives off "just trust me bro" vibes lol
This. I don't get why people find it hard to grasp that it's still kinda an requirement for acting at a certain level to be either good looking, or damn good at acting. Best would be both.
I know, it sucks, but that's how it is. And it's kinda ok - I'm a chunky guy, I'd never bitch and moan that I won't get to play Captain America, because the industry and the internet is fatshaming me.
On the other hand if you apply for a role of a fat guy you will get it and maybe people will even love you in it. The Ellie discourse doesn't cancel the fact that the reason people hate her is partically because she is not attractive. It's kind of funny how everybody tries to hide it behind "acting" and "nepo baby".
Jokes on you because Ramsey has said they don't give a fuck what pronouns people use to refer to them. Call her a he if that's what you need to get your dick hard
I don't even watch TLOU nor do I care about her, I just wanna know where you got that info from and with the way you replied it proves my point of "just trust me bro" lol
She has a weird face. You've never been off put by somebody just because they look strange? Not in the laughing at a deformity sense but maybe they just have really deep eyes or they do that weird super toothy smile all the time. The difference is, in real life you can actually talk to those people and look past those features.
For Ramsey, all people have is her part in a show that they probably didn't like
She looks more like an alcoholic baby than a nepo baby, original guy probably just implying nepo babies look inbred and ugly because their parents are probably related
Prove it. Literally provide any kind of source to what you just said. I have no idea what youtube or tiktok account told you this but you're an idiot for believing it when it's a lie that's so easy to check
Look... that commenter didn't even play the game, but reddit told him, that he could finally jerk off to a real actress playing ellie instead of just rule34-stuff from the underage ellie.
Now he doesn't like how the actress of that underage ellie looks at all. On top of that, reddit told him, that she is the worst and a nepo baby.
There is zero proof of that, but that doesn't matter as you can see, redditors upvote him and don't care. They just want to hate as always.
That said: I found the post itself really funny, but the people that make TLOU their entire identity are ultra-cringe and losers.
I mean I wasn't there but I'd bet the farm that Cuckmann just barged in the meeting and said "Cast the actress that chuds can't possibly masturbate to" and they just went with it because everyone's writing Cuckmann blank cheques at the time. She has literally zero traits that stand out other than that she's unfuckable.
I think it's totally fine to argue about how well an actor is suited for their role. But calling a person "a thing" is really gross. I don't people denied their humanity because they are "ugly". That would make me not a human as well
Not a chance she does… Abby was actually a mean, scary, built MF. I think the show fucked up casting pretttyyy much everyone except Pedro as Joel, but that’s just because he’s basically Hollywood’s dad character.
I don’t really mind the Bella Ramsay casting, she acts far more like Ellie than the rest of the cast does for other main characters.
My dude you are the one seething over an actress portraying a character in a TV show.
Do Ellie's looks add to her character? Does she grow up to be a post apocalyptic super model, which is something that can't happen in the show because she's portrayed by Bella Ramsey? Is she supposed to be pulling studs left and right? Do her enemies not pull the trigger because they are stunned by her beauty? If not, I don't see any point in rejecting Ramsey for the way she looks.
Lastly, I have to wonder if you had the same opinion on her after S1, which was received a lot better than S2.
That's what people like you don't understand, and never will.
"Woke" is when you cram your politics and bullshit and representation garbage into the form of a character that is obviously out of place, or create a character like that when none were before. And then call people who do not like it "fascists or racists".
There are plenty of strong, beloved female leads out there. Plenty of strong LGBT characters. You know what they all have in common? They're good characters and are well written.
I'm confused, wasn't the last of us games also criticised for being woke, for having women protagonists and LGBT representation? What wokeness is the casting "cramming in" that wasn't already present in the games?
The funny thing is I was actually in agreement with you that Bella Ramsey doesn't look like they fit the role. But insulting their entire existence, citing "woke" just makes you look like a cunt.
Am I being naive in thinking that she was hired because she's a talented actor who draws a wider audience to the show by virtue of her being in one of the most popular TV franchises in decades?
I feel like if your immediate argument is to lie and say that a 21 year old woman is 14 so you can call someone a pedophile you should probably just not talk at all
I dont get it anymore...
If a 21 year old woman plays the role of a 14 year old girl and someone says that the actress is sexy, people somehow get stuck up on numbers to call the observer a pedophile.
On the other hand you have "Manga enthusiasts" drawing literal children to jerk it to, but its fine because the lore says shes a 9000 year old demon or some shit.
Whats with those mental gymnastics? Do people just draw the line where they see it fit at the moment?
I seriously have no Idea whats going on anymore...
It's very easy, this is simply redefinition of the truth, core of cultural Marxism. Everybody sees that she looks like shit and acts like a potato, everybody knows that Quinn would be 1000x better in this role. Woke mob will hype anything that is opposing traditional definitions of beauty/normality ect. to make media insufferable, no matter if it's games or movies. As long as men don't like it, they will hype it religiously to "fight patriarchy". They cry so hard about someone simply telling the truth, because their agenda wouldn't be leading at any point if they were not repeating their lies over and over and force others to comply with their pathetic arguments, up to the point where their line of thinking dominates and telling the truth is banned, like it's the case with so many woke topics on this website. Simply look through comments on this thread, of people defending here, those are LITERALLY the same argumentative "gotchas" over and over, repeated by every person, devoid of individual critical thought, which would simply see the truth instantly. They cannot live without their agenda tainting any judgement they do, and they would be ostracized by their peers if they simply started to think LMAO.
The "14 year old" Ellie and Dina have a sexual scene in the show. That makes you a sex pest for watching it!
...wait, no it doesn't, because that would be a fucking stupid thing to say. Like saying that someone who's a good actress, who gives a very poor performance as a pre-established character, is unable to be criticized for her awful casting.
Dude, Bella Ramsey was in game of thrones. She wasn’t picked because of a “woke fetish”, why tf would they cast Pedro Pascal in it then, who is by all accounts the manliest guy right now? You wouldn’t give one shit if the actresses for Ellie and Dina were switched out because one is more conventionally attractive than the other. “The last decade” happened because of bigots like you who think a girl has to be attractive to you in order to succeed in a role.
Finally, name ONE tv series that was “ruined” by wokism or politics-based casting. Jesus man, I hope someone checks your hard drives because I’d hate to see what you call a girl you actually find pretty.
Pedro Pascal in it then, who is by all accounts the manliest guy right now
LOL?
Finally, name ONE tv series that was “ruined” by wokism or politics-based casting
HotD. Deviation from the source material to make Rhaenyra a strong independent woman who don't need no man clicks fingers, or race swapping an entire noble house of famously blood purity obsessed inbreds because, and I quote:
It was very important for Miguel and I to create a show that was not another bunch of white people on the screen, just to put it very bluntly
Halo never got off the ground because they immediately broke the Chiefs character in episode one. Don’t pretend some different ideology ruined an already-dead series.
The Witcher lost Henry Cavill because he wanted to progress the DC universe which was a bad move considering their general lack of organization. What was your “woke” reason for that show? Was Freya too light for you now?
EVEN if you wanted to point to Gina Carano getting canned from the Mandalorian, she obviously wasn’t even remotely carrying the show the way Pascal or the general presence of Grogu were.
I admittedly don’t know anything about Billions so I can’t comment on that.
Sure, Halo was dead on arrival, but it was killed even more by adding a human woman to the Covenant (girlboss of course).
And why do you think they lost Henry Cavill? I am willing to bet you have not read the books at all. They lost him precisely because they kept deviating more and more from the story, with plenty of girlboss garbage thrown in.
You can’t claim that wokism killed an already-dead series. That’s like saying the flu killed a guy who fell out of an airplane. The two are not correlated.
You’re right, I haven’t read the books. But I know the series was popular on Netflix and I know that’s why he left it, to pursue a DC universe trying to be similar to Marvel. What “girlboss” was there that got you so upset? Yennefer? Ciri? They’re both powerful, who really cares?
I can even agree with you on some stories relying on historical accuracy (it would be idiotic to cast a black klansman, for instance) but fictional source material can be played around with to an extent.
I legitimately want to know, does the newest John Wick movie having a girl main character bother you? If so, are you able to articulate why? (Not trying to instigate, I really just am wondering)
About Witcher, I don't think they necessarily "girlbossified" it as much as making genuinely bad changes that didn't make any sense at all. I stopped watching at the zombie leshen personally.
i just want to correct your impression of pedro pascal you have. He's not the stereotypical "manly man". He has a trans sister who he openly supports as well as being an advocate for mental health and has said he himself suffers from anxiety. He's always come off as a silly guy and certainly doesnt fit the Manliest Man role like Carl Urban, or a Brad Pitt, or a Idris Elba would fit.
Sheesh there are a lot of people downvoting you because they agree with the “thing” comment. Good on you for calling out this asshole trying to dehumanize someone because he doesn’t find them attractive.
Are you against her cast because she doesn't look like Ellie? But why? So many good characters don't look anything at all loke their source material. Nick Fury and Tyrion Lannieter immediately come to mind.
the casting choice doesn't work because she looks too much like a child and ellie in tlou2 isn't meant to look like a child. the writing suffers from this, the writers know that the tv show ellie needs to act more like a child and not a young adult, so we get the "i will be a dad" scene
The MCU Nick Fury was based on The Ultimates Nick Fury by Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch. He was purposely made to look like Samuel L Jackson. But I digress; yes, plenty of characters don't look like their source material
that’s not the truth. people don’t go out of their way to bully ugly people who stay out of the spotlight and don’t try to put their opinions out there and basically stay a recluse. an ugly person typically has weak genes and as a sexually reproductive species, weak genes make us upset to even look at. if bella ramsey were not an actress then nobody would be bothering her. she put herself in the public eye thus opening herself up to criticism.
There was a monster like lady, I don't remember from what media I saw her.. It was a naked bloated zombie like woman with bluish skin and black hair.. She was maybe in a well or something... She looks so alike
You've never seen an episode and think it was bad? I haven't played the games (I've seen tons of vids and read about it though), but I think the show was great. Maybe I'm not blinded by my expectations of how they should cast it, I just took it as a show.
Okay? That doesn't functionally change the point. Half the internet hating a casting choice doesn't make it "woke" either, I'm not sure what point you thought you were making.
Can you explain exactly how this is woke or is this woke in the sense that you wanna just say hateful things but are too scared to do you just say woke instead like your grifter YouTubers instructed you to
I honestly think it's more likely they cast her because she has a baby face so she could play young and old Ellie without them needing a second actress.
I was never against their looks in the show, I know that some actors/actresses can play a role amazingly while not looking exactly like the character. I think they did a pretty good job in the first season but I think that they weren’t able to depict part two Ellie very well because it didn’t seem like they were older. Just the same actresses but instead wanted you to act like they were older and different despite them still looking like a child compared to everyone else who was apparently around the same age as they were. Say what you want about the dialogue or scenes but I can’t blame them for just doing their job saying their lines and doing what the director wants them to do. The hate they get is misdirected when it should go towards the directors and screenwriters who decided to make them say the famous “I’m gonna be a dad” and the scenes that they changed to fit their new Ellie who was a immature unfitting out of character mess that they were in the second season.
rycerzDog@reddit
What I find weird is that (well first of all that she was cast in the first place) they never even tried to make her look even remotely like Ellie.
InevitableBoring2031@reddit
Films do that a lot because the controversy is literally just free advertisement
srcactusman@reddit
Finally someone mentions it instead of falling for the obvious rage bait
InevitableBoring2031@reddit
My guy I'm saying the most popular opinion that goes through the circle just above right-wing grifters: "enlightened" centrists
srcactusman@reddit
Yeah, but I almost never see anyone say it, all I see is people getting way too mad at this
InevitableBoring2031@reddit
Or in my case people mocking those that get mad.
Tbh just try and avoid that type of community if you can
Uraveragefanboi77@reddit
Step 1. Make Sleeping Beauty Black or some shit
Step 2. Twitter People get mad
Step 3. Everyone who doesn’t give a shit about princess movies suddenly can’t stop hearing about it
Step 4. Profit
IudexJudy@reddit
sexy_snake_229xXx@reddit
Where exactly? I hate live action as much as the next guy, but it seems they’re very successful and profitable, that’s why there is an infinite number of them.
IudexJudy@reddit
Snow White loss more than $200M, Lilo and Stitch did well though. But that wasn’t draped in controversy.
VicisSubsisto@reddit
Lilo & Stitch wasn't draped in controversy until after people saw it.
Maybe because they cast it appropriately.
Noble-Jester@reddit
Oh nice! The cast was great! Too bad they butchered the story, the characters stories, and even a whole quarter of the movie which they didn't bother to add because apparently the old movie sucked.
But hey, at least the casting was good!
VicisSubsisto@reddit
And that's why I emphasized that the controversy came from people seeing the movie.
I didn't even hear about most of what you mentioned, because they fucked the ending so hard it overshadowed everything else.
Noble-Jester@reddit
They didn't have the main bad alien, pleekly's main character trait of enjoying female clothes wasn't there, Jumba was a huge asshole, and yeah, the ending was shite. It's unfortunate people keep paying for these shitty ass remakes haha
BipolarMadness@reddit
Let's be real, a big majority of "normies" that liked the previous movie and went to watch this one do not give a flying fuck about none of those things. They bought and watched the movie because they just wanted to watch a live action CGI Stitch and that's it, they enjoyed that.
It's slop for the masses, and they are gonna eat it good.
Noble-Jester@reddit
I do know as much, just don't want shit from the same slop munchers when I tell them it's slop.
They should learn to be as happy as they claim they are while eating the shit they paid for.
BonesWillBeClaimed@reddit
"bad publicity is still publicity" when they realize not that many people will hatewatch a movie
slasher1337@reddit
If it wasn't working then they wouldn't do it
Godhole34@reddit
It isn't working though. Where have you ever seen this shit working?
kincard@reddit
I have no idea why people think that a character needs to look like the original in an adaptation. This has never been true, not for book adaptations, not for comic adaptations, but for some reason gamers piss their pants over this.
correctingStupid@reddit
I don't think films should cast based on looks. Great if they do but talent and availability are far more important. Her talent ran out in season one.
Familiar-Bar-9301@reddit
Why are you so fixated on what she looks like? The only thing that people should care about is if she plays the role of Ellie well, especially since she was only 14 in the first game.
Also, casting based on just looks is how you get unenthusiastic actors that turn greatly written movies into unwatchable slop.
eliisback@reddit
ahh, so you see why everyone dislikes this
Res_Novae17@reddit
She does do a fairly good job of acting like the same character. I haven't watched S2 yet, but she very much nailed the snarky, bratty Ellie energy from the first game in S1.
sofa_adviser@reddit
Did we play the same game? For example, in her first scene with Joel she attempts to emphasize with him("I hate bad dreams"), and in the second one, where Joel literally tells Ellie "shut up and do as I say" she agrees with him. Ellie verbally spars with Joel only two times in the entire game, and in both cases it's warranted and justifiable. She disobeys only once for the entire game
Bearsharks@reddit
She did not do adult Ellie justice, but I do agree she was good for kid one.
Odeiomelaokk@reddit
I think we all know why she gets hate. It's her appearance and that's that.
It's so stupid how the show has actual problems and people keep picking on her appearance alone. Yes, there were actresses who looked like Ellie much more, but tbh idc, there's stuff in this series that is just insanely cringy and people barely talk about it bc "Bella Ramsey ugley" or sum. Like, okay dude, whatever. The game is there anyway, it's not like the source material doesn't have a story. You can literally go there and play it right now.
LuigiBamba@reddit
If you think people have only issues with her appearance and nothing else, you're living under a rock.
Depressed_Lego@reddit
Of course there are other issues that people actually talk about, it doesn't change the fact that the majority of discourse I see about it is about Bella Ramsey either being non-binary, or being ugly.
LuigiBamba@reddit
Yeah, alright.
As I thought, living under a rock. Or thriving in your typical reddit echo chamber.
Odeiomelaokk@reddit
Most of it is her appearance for sure, but yes I am aware of her personal opinions
I don't agree with a majority of them tbh lol, Im right-leaning, so that's why
But regardless of that, her appearance is definitely the problem for most people which is just shameful
erlend_nikulausson@reddit
Iunno, mang. If I looked like a peeled russet and also couldn’t act my way out of a paper bag, maybe I wouldn’t weigh in on the zeitgeist too much.
Odeiomelaokk@reddit
How did you even come up with that 😭😭 yk what, that's fair
AdamofSnakes@reddit
I’ve never seen a nepo-baby, look so much like an actual baby.
RealityMalady@reddit
How are they a nepo baby?
How2chair@reddit
"they"?
slasher1337@reddit
They're nonbinary.
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
Lmao of course she is
slasher1337@reddit
What do you mean by that?
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
Who knows?
slasher1337@reddit
You
ocajsuirotsap@reddit
Touch grass
How2chair@reddit
looks like a she, in most pics
slasher1337@reddit
And?
How2chair@reddit
And?
slasher1337@reddit
Didn't your parents teach you to not judge people by how they look?
How2chair@reddit
Yeah but looking like a female is hardly a judgement.
nubfight@reddit
I don't get why people are down voting you but I looked it up and she's not even a nepo baby lmao
RealityMalady@reddit
Ramsey just seems to be one of those actors lots of people have a weird hate boner on for no reason as far as I can tell. So they'll believe anything about her as long as its negative
The_missing_link_69@reddit
People mainly hate her just got the reason of "ugly". So it is what it is
Sith_Furry_Guy_747@reddit
I got a hate boner minus the hate
funkmydunkyouslunk@reddit
“For no reason” bro she single handily ruined TLoU series. She’s easily the worst part, her acting sucks, she has no resemblance to the character she’s portraying when other characters some what do. People who were actual fans of that series were let down with the live action portrayal of it, that’s why some people might dislike her
BlocNote_0425@reddit
I know nothing of TLoU, but most of the time, when people blame the acting, they don’t understand the role of the director and how much could bad acting be attributed to bad directing instead.
A movie is not the director saying « Action ! Now do your acting thing you know how to do » and let the actor loose.
takeme2infinity@reddit
If I'm ever this passionate about a video game adaptation letting me down. Please put a sawed off shootgun on my morning cereal
HistoricalIce5@reddit
Fascinating how you can always tell
takeme2infinity@reddit
Lmao I see you post in 4chan and greentext, Fascinating as well you fucking goofball
sevinup07@reddit
The first season was great and she did a good job. The problem is the story spans too long of a stretch for her to remain convincing. She needed the dynamic from the first season to succeed. The change in character and the focus of her role is not something Ramsay was able to carry, not to mention the pretty poor writing to go along with it.
slasher1337@reddit
She was good in the first season
virtualdreamscape@reddit
her acting sucks tho, I don't know anything else about her
Mainbaze@reddit
A fuck ton of actors are not particular good. Gal Gadot is one of the worst, but I don’t see a ton of posts about her every day/week. I wonder why
maxtinion_lord@reddit
What fucking rock do you live under that you haven't seen people post about gal gadot's awful acting? I see it mentioned at least every other day.
Mainbaze@reddit
Maybe the algorithm. I’ve seen it a few times this year but I’ve seen at least 1000 Belly hateposts
Nurgle_Marine_Sharts@reddit
Ramsey is a lot more culturally relevant right now because of the recent TLoU season 2 being kind of shit.
Mainbaze@reddit
Yeah they fucked up but I don’t target my anger at the direction they went towards a girl just trying to do the job someone else chose her for.
Nurgle_Marine_Sharts@reddit
Anger is a strong word but I definitely understand dunking on an actor because they performed poorly and they were grossly miscast.
But yeah, the real annoyance for me was the show's poor adaptation, big departure from the first season which was pretty decent imo.
Mainbaze@reddit
Really? Continuously calling someone a potato because they (subjectivity) wasn’t the right candidate for a job?
There are so many weird decisions with the series. It could have been better, but it could also have been a lot worse.
The game is not ruined for me just because the series wasn’t perfect
Nurgle_Marine_Sharts@reddit
I haven't done that myself, but if they kind of do look like a potato, and they are a wealthy celebrity? Sure man who cares? They're gonna be just fine, wiping their tears with $100 bills.
You realize this is a 4chan adjacent shitposting subreddit, right?
Mainbaze@reddit
This is mild compared to what I see on Facebook
Nurgle_Marine_Sharts@reddit
Lol, ain't that the truth. Facebook and YouTube comment seconds are like the wild west sometimes
Woelli@reddit
They got the role because of their dad. That’s pretty irritating if you ask me. Also why do you cast someone who looks nothing like the original and who doesn’t even have the right gender for the role? Why not just cast Samuel L. Jackson? He’s a pretty good actor…
Gabtraff@reddit
I couldn't count the amount of times I've seen "Kal-El, No" memes.
Mainbaze@reddit
Algorithm then. Cuz I have no idea what that is
Gabtraff@reddit
It's from a scene in Justice League. She has very wooden delivery. Also there is no way she would even know supes real name at this point. I mostly see it on r/okbuddycinephile but in a few other places too.
Dovahbear_@reddit
Uh I have seen people on both Reddit and Instagram drag her butt across the floor, the roof and the sidewalk. Even more so after her supporting Israel.
MajorLeeScrewed@reddit
People mock her incessantly. She’s not being posted because she isn’t in any current popular mainstream media that also happens to have a hardcore existing dedicated fan base.
nubfight@reddit
People on here love spreading misinformation while downvoting others asking for their source of information and gives off "just trust me bro" vibes lol
jamiebond@reddit
They’re butt hurt that someone they view as inferior to them has accomplished more in 21 years on this Earth than they will in their entire lives lol
CalmOptimal@reddit
She's such good actor.
Game of thrones where they're all arguing among themselves and she just lays it out.
Would follow creepy looking wee lass into war, 10/10 no question, square go 💗 💪.
Dragon_yum@reddit
She did commit two of the most heinous crimes on the internet
Withinmyrange@reddit
She has a uniquely odd face and her acting ability is not good
Not that hard to understand
Buttfranklin2000@reddit
This. I don't get why people find it hard to grasp that it's still kinda an requirement for acting at a certain level to be either good looking, or damn good at acting. Best would be both.
I know, it sucks, but that's how it is. And it's kinda ok - I'm a chunky guy, I'd never bitch and moan that I won't get to play Captain America, because the industry and the internet is fatshaming me.
Eastern_Mist@reddit
On the other hand if you apply for a role of a fat guy you will get it and maybe people will even love you in it. The Ellie discourse doesn't cancel the fact that the reason people hate her is partically because she is not attractive. It's kind of funny how everybody tries to hide it behind "acting" and "nepo baby".
basilisk_boi2@reddit
No reason? Cmon now…she’s got a face for radio that drives people insane
LARGEGRAPE@reddit
I think its because shes ugly and cringe
plokaki@reddit
Get your nouns correct.
RealityMalady@reddit
Jokes on you because Ramsey has said they don't give a fuck what pronouns people use to refer to them. Call her a he if that's what you need to get your dick hard
plokaki@reddit
Now you assume that I have male genitalia, sexism at it's finest.
soiboi64@reddit
I would assume your a Russian bot actually, so you have a cyberpeener plus a digivag.
Tiny-Net-7428@reddit
Her father is a chairman at HBO, that’s the only reason she’s getting acting roles..
RealityMalady@reddit
Do you have a single shred of evidence to back that up
Tiny-Net-7428@reddit
You’re defending Bella as if she’s your best friend lmao, calm down. She a Nepo baby, it’s normal in that business
nubfight@reddit
I don't even watch TLOU nor do I care about her, I just wanna know where you got that info from and with the way you replied it proves my point of "just trust me bro" lol
Tiny-Net-7428@reddit
Google the HBO board members
DeathSabre7@reddit
Where Ramsey?
Wiggie49@reddit
Bro been real quiet since you dropped the direct link lol
Meme_Master_Dude@reddit
Nah mate the burden of proof falls on you for bringing that up.
RealityMalady@reddit
I bet people mistake you for a chihuahua because you are such a little bitch. Google it yourself and send a link why don't you. There's nothing there.
syphon222@reddit
No, we want you to provide the source
You seem so confident about it that it must be really easy for you to find that and share it with us all
toxicgloo@reddit
She has a weird face. You've never been off put by somebody just because they look strange? Not in the laughing at a deformity sense but maybe they just have really deep eyes or they do that weird super toothy smile all the time. The difference is, in real life you can actually talk to those people and look past those features.
For Ramsey, all people have is her part in a show that they probably didn't like
Darthjinju1901@reddit
It's cause she doesn't look "hot" like Ellie, and so people conflate her giving lines badly written as her badly acting.
jetjebrooks@reddit
you can tell if a kid is butt ugly without sexualising them
Darthjinju1901@reddit
Even if she was, being ugly has nothing to do with acting ability which is what I'm talking about
jetjebrooks@reddit
well you can be both ugly and do bad acting. i guess you'd have to provide specific evidence why you think people are conflating two things
getdemsnacks@reddit
Wasn't Ellie supposed to be, like, 13?
I need to go scrub my brain clean
DrakenDaskar@reddit
She is 19 in tlou 2.
Darthjinju1901@reddit
They said that about the first season too.
Darthjinju1901@reddit
Hey I'm not supporting them I'm just saying what the idiots are saying. Don't shoot the messenger
getdemsnacks@reddit
Nah, I realized that .. wasn't attacking you, just the creeps attacking someone for not looking like the "hot" child she is portraying
TomatoSpecialist6879@reddit
She looks more like an alcoholic baby than a nepo baby, original guy probably just implying nepo babies look inbred and ugly because their parents are probably related
correctingStupid@reddit
Love how redditors just repeat what they hear from redditors not even knowing what the f they are talking about. Isn't she a boomer too?
damnumalone@reddit
Rocky Dennis from Mask? Rocky? Sylvester Stallone? I’m not sure how I can make this clearer
fuck_ruroc@reddit
Her dad is a major player in hbo
felipebarroz@reddit
Any source?
cocainebrick3242@reddit
RealityMalady@reddit
Prove it. Literally provide any kind of source to what you just said. I have no idea what youtube or tiktok account told you this but you're an idiot for believing it when it's a lie that's so easy to check
fuck_ruroc@reddit
Hope she sees this bro
RealityMalady@reddit
Bro no wonder you're so easy to fool if you're hostile to the very concept of asking for evidence
Cheezeepants@reddit
bro argues about actors like a flat earther
HolyToast@reddit
It's okay to be gullible and wrong bro
It's not okay to be a little piss baby that can't back up their words bro
Sonic_Is_Real@reddit
Brain damage
SlayBoredom@reddit
Look... that commenter didn't even play the game, but reddit told him, that he could finally jerk off to a real actress playing ellie instead of just rule34-stuff from the underage ellie.
Now he doesn't like how the actress of that underage ellie looks at all. On top of that, reddit told him, that she is the worst and a nepo baby.
There is zero proof of that, but that doesn't matter as you can see, redditors upvote him and don't care. They just want to hate as always.
That said: I found the post itself really funny, but the people that make TLOU their entire identity are ultra-cringe and losers.
Omega_brownie@reddit
Wait, there's more?
CyberneticSaturn@reddit
The most absolutely insane thing is she isn’t a nepo baby. She rode that game of thrones performance into the sun.
Dragon_yum@reddit
And yet this is the top comment on this thread
JohnQBalatro@reddit
is she related to a high-ranked person in the entertainment industry or is nepo baby just a buzzword now lol
Absolutemehguy@reddit
She isn't a nepo baby. They cast her just to own the chuds and incels, like the new Joker.
KarlPc167@reddit
If that's true it only makes them more chuds than the chuds they are trying to make fun of
Absolutemehguy@reddit
I mean I wasn't there but I'd bet the farm that Cuckmann just barged in the meeting and said "Cast the actress that chuds can't possibly masturbate to" and they just went with it because everyone's writing Cuckmann blank cheques at the time. She has literally zero traits that stand out other than that she's unfuckable.
Sec_Chief_Blanchard@reddit
Bella isn't a nepo baby
Jandys@reddit
She's not even a decent actress. Peaked in her first appearance in game of thrones, downhill from there.
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
I have no idea why this... thing was cast for her role. There are much better options out there.
SwyatoyIncvisitor@reddit
I think it's totally fine to argue about how well an actor is suited for their role. But calling a person "a thing" is really gross. I don't people denied their humanity because they are "ugly". That would make me not a human as well
Deathgripsugar@reddit
B8 comment.
Y’all are suckers
SwyatoyIncvisitor@reddit
tf you mean
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
She uses "They/them", she wants to be treated like an object to begin with.
HolyToast@reddit
Do...do you think you call objects "they"?
TheOnlyBliebervik@reddit
I mean, what's the plural of "it"
"Those bolts are tight. They aren't coming off."
HolyToast@reddit
I don't see how plurality comes into the picture considering we're talking about one person
TheOnlyBliebervik@reddit
I don't get your point
slasher1337@reddit
So every single person on earth(or at least the english speakers) are not peopole but objects?
SoupaMayo@reddit
Wait til you learn that they/them are used for humans too
psydelicdaydreamer@reddit
I was getting ready to break out the slurs until I read the last line
BidoofDoge@reddit
Slurs? What kind of slurs??
Norfhynorfh@reddit
You're in the wrong sub if youre getting offended by that. You ever been to 4chan?
klonkish@reddit
> acts like an internet thug on 4chan subreddit
> too much of a fat pussy to go on the actual 4chan
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rock4evur@reddit
Yes this sub is where we come to make fun of such degeneracy. If you wanna act like a 4channer than go there, I don’t want that shit imported here.
LitheBeep@reddit
This might be a tough concept to wrap your head around, but just because this is a 4chan-related subreddit doesn't mean we have to roleplay as them.
SwyatoyIncvisitor@reddit
I'm not offended, I'm disappointed
ZenPyx@reddit
I mean this sub isn’t the same as r/4chan for a reason…
fuck-a-da-police@reddit
Some of us have been on 4chan and retained our humanity
Cauchemar89@reddit
It's funny that the shows' Abby looks so much more like Ellie.
LachlantehGreat@reddit
Not a chance she does… Abby was actually a mean, scary, built MF. I think the show fucked up casting pretttyyy much everyone except Pedro as Joel, but that’s just because he’s basically Hollywood’s dad character.
I don’t really mind the Bella Ramsay casting, she acts far more like Ellie than the rest of the cast does for other main characters.
cocainebrick3242@reddit
She can reasonably pass for a twelve year old but act marginally better than one.
HolyToast@reddit
Y'all are genuinely so fuckin strange about this person lmfao
ariesloll@reddit
its clobberin time
DaRealKovi@reddit
Things have Ben Grimm recently, huh
Sengfroid@reddit
I mean not Fantastic, 4sure
Substantial_Tear3679@reddit
Say that again?
ariesloll@reddit
FriendlyKillerCroc@reddit
Let's see your face.
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
The fuck does my face have to do with the fact that she does not look like Ellie at all?
FriendlyKillerCroc@reddit
Lol you called her a thing. I want to see the specimen that thinks they have any right to dehumanise someone like that.
Or are you just going to hide behind anonymity to spout your hate? Would you call her a thing publicly with your real name on it?
I think the internet has forgotten how truly pathetic people like you are.
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
I am saying she has no business playing Ellie, when there are better choices.
And yes, she looks like a THING. And you can keep seething in your corner <3
Hesj@reddit
My dude you are the one seething over an actress portraying a character in a TV show.
Do Ellie's looks add to her character? Does she grow up to be a post apocalyptic super model, which is something that can't happen in the show because she's portrayed by Bella Ramsey? Is she supposed to be pulling studs left and right? Do her enemies not pull the trigger because they are stunned by her beauty? If not, I don't see any point in rejecting Ramsey for the way she looks.
Lastly, I have to wonder if you had the same opinion on her after S1, which was received a lot better than S2.
jetjebrooks@reddit
if ellie was a deformed 300 pound burn victim her character would be different. looks matter
maninahat@reddit
Okay, but short of that?
jetjebrooks@reddit
re-read the last two words
SlayBoredom@reddit
they wanted to finally be able to jerk off to the underage actress of the underage videogame-person and now they are pissed they can't...
thats literally all this is about.
LitheBeep@reddit
No quicker way to invalidate your own argument than by pulling out the woke card
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
What, because you think "woke" does not happen?
That's what people like you don't understand, and never will.
"Woke" is when you cram your politics and bullshit and representation garbage into the form of a character that is obviously out of place, or create a character like that when none were before. And then call people who do not like it "fascists or racists".
There are plenty of strong, beloved female leads out there. Plenty of strong LGBT characters. You know what they all have in common? They're good characters and are well written.
maninahat@reddit
I'm confused, wasn't the last of us games also criticised for being woke, for having women protagonists and LGBT representation? What wokeness is the casting "cramming in" that wasn't already present in the games?
LitheBeep@reddit
The funny thing is I was actually in agreement with you that Bella Ramsey doesn't look like they fit the role. But insulting their entire existence, citing "woke" just makes you look like a cunt.
maninahat@reddit
Am I being naive in thinking that she was hired because she's a talented actor who draws a wider audience to the show by virtue of her being in one of the most popular TV franchises in decades?
Dr_Orpheus_@reddit
ShopperOfBuckets@reddit
She's a great actress. Sucks for you that the 14 year old isn't as attractive in the show as she is in the video game but that's life.
lennonali3@reddit
I feel like if your immediate argument is to lie and say that a 21 year old woman is 14 so you can call someone a pedophile you should probably just not talk at all
ShopperOfBuckets@reddit
The character is 14 and the guy is whining about the character being less attractive. I feel like you should read carefully before commenting.
KingKniebel@reddit
I dont get it anymore... If a 21 year old woman plays the role of a 14 year old girl and someone says that the actress is sexy, people somehow get stuck up on numbers to call the observer a pedophile.
On the other hand you have "Manga enthusiasts" drawing literal children to jerk it to, but its fine because the lore says shes a 9000 year old demon or some shit.
Whats with those mental gymnastics? Do people just draw the line where they see it fit at the moment?
I seriously have no Idea whats going on anymore...
vivi112@reddit
It's very easy, this is simply redefinition of the truth, core of cultural Marxism. Everybody sees that she looks like shit and acts like a potato, everybody knows that Quinn would be 1000x better in this role. Woke mob will hype anything that is opposing traditional definitions of beauty/normality ect. to make media insufferable, no matter if it's games or movies. As long as men don't like it, they will hype it religiously to "fight patriarchy". They cry so hard about someone simply telling the truth, because their agenda wouldn't be leading at any point if they were not repeating their lies over and over and force others to comply with their pathetic arguments, up to the point where their line of thinking dominates and telling the truth is banned, like it's the case with so many woke topics on this website. Simply look through comments on this thread, of people defending here, those are LITERALLY the same argumentative "gotchas" over and over, repeated by every person, devoid of individual critical thought, which would simply see the truth instantly. They cannot live without their agenda tainting any judgement they do, and they would be ostracized by their peers if they simply started to think LMAO.
The_Meemeli@reddit
To be pedantic, the character is 19 for most of season 2.
lennonali3@reddit
So if Bella ramsey gets married, their partner should be locked up because she played a 14 year old therefore they’re a pedophile
Vertex138@reddit
The "14 year old" Ellie and Dina have a sexual scene in the show. That makes you a sex pest for watching it!
...wait, no it doesn't, because that would be a fucking stupid thing to say. Like saying that someone who's a good actress, who gives a very poor performance as a pre-established character, is unable to be criticized for her awful casting.
Chirpy69@reddit
Dude, Bella Ramsey was in game of thrones. She wasn’t picked because of a “woke fetish”, why tf would they cast Pedro Pascal in it then, who is by all accounts the manliest guy right now? You wouldn’t give one shit if the actresses for Ellie and Dina were switched out because one is more conventionally attractive than the other. “The last decade” happened because of bigots like you who think a girl has to be attractive to you in order to succeed in a role.
Finally, name ONE tv series that was “ruined” by wokism or politics-based casting. Jesus man, I hope someone checks your hard drives because I’d hate to see what you call a girl you actually find pretty.
Aerius-Caedem@reddit
LOL?
HotD. Deviation from the source material to make Rhaenyra a strong independent woman who don't need no man clicks fingers, or race swapping an entire noble house of famously blood purity obsessed inbreds because, and I quote:
YetAnotherSpamBot@reddit
Might be true, but the show's writing is really good so I don't think people mind that much
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
Seriously dude? Billions, Halo, The witcher, shall I go on?
Chirpy69@reddit
Halo never got off the ground because they immediately broke the Chiefs character in episode one. Don’t pretend some different ideology ruined an already-dead series.
The Witcher lost Henry Cavill because he wanted to progress the DC universe which was a bad move considering their general lack of organization. What was your “woke” reason for that show? Was Freya too light for you now?
EVEN if you wanted to point to Gina Carano getting canned from the Mandalorian, she obviously wasn’t even remotely carrying the show the way Pascal or the general presence of Grogu were.
I admittedly don’t know anything about Billions so I can’t comment on that.
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
I do not need to pretend anything.
Sure, Halo was dead on arrival, but it was killed even more by adding a human woman to the Covenant (girlboss of course).
And why do you think they lost Henry Cavill? I am willing to bet you have not read the books at all. They lost him precisely because they kept deviating more and more from the story, with plenty of girlboss garbage thrown in.
Chirpy69@reddit
You can’t claim that wokism killed an already-dead series. That’s like saying the flu killed a guy who fell out of an airplane. The two are not correlated.
You’re right, I haven’t read the books. But I know the series was popular on Netflix and I know that’s why he left it, to pursue a DC universe trying to be similar to Marvel. What “girlboss” was there that got you so upset? Yennefer? Ciri? They’re both powerful, who really cares?
I can even agree with you on some stories relying on historical accuracy (it would be idiotic to cast a black klansman, for instance) but fictional source material can be played around with to an extent.
I legitimately want to know, does the newest John Wick movie having a girl main character bother you? If so, are you able to articulate why? (Not trying to instigate, I really just am wondering)
YetAnotherSpamBot@reddit
About Witcher, I don't think they necessarily "girlbossified" it as much as making genuinely bad changes that didn't make any sense at all. I stopped watching at the zombie leshen personally.
Oh_yes_I_did@reddit
i just want to correct your impression of pedro pascal you have. He's not the stereotypical "manly man". He has a trans sister who he openly supports as well as being an advocate for mental health and has said he himself suffers from anxiety. He's always come off as a silly guy and certainly doesnt fit the Manliest Man role like Carl Urban, or a Brad Pitt, or a Idris Elba would fit.
jetjebrooks@reddit
she's an awful ellie but lets not pretend theres a bunch of bella ramseys out there being cast. she is singularly terrible
Aerius-Caedem@reddit
Based
FriendlyKillerCroc@reddit
So what do you look like?
Chirpy69@reddit
Sheesh there are a lot of people downvoting you because they agree with the “thing” comment. Good on you for calling out this asshole trying to dehumanize someone because he doesn’t find them attractive.
FriendlyKillerCroc@reddit
They see themselves as edgy redditors. The reality is they are either young, or they are older and too far gone down the "incel" path.
ZedLyfe51@reddit
Calling out animal cruelty is always commendable
Yarmungar@reddit
La creatura
Level_Solid_8501@reddit
Amen fratello
FluffyDaWolf@reddit
Are you against her cast because she doesn't look like Ellie? But why? So many good characters don't look anything at all loke their source material. Nick Fury and Tyrion Lannieter immediately come to mind.
_LiHaC_@reddit
the casting choice doesn't work because she looks too much like a child and ellie in tlou2 isn't meant to look like a child. the writing suffers from this, the writers know that the tv show ellie needs to act more like a child and not a young adult, so we get the "i will be a dad" scene
FluffyDaWolf@reddit
In that case, I assume you're fine with her being cast in season 1? Since that covers only TLOU1
_LiHaC_@reddit
yeah im fine with her in tlou1
getdemsnacks@reddit
The MCU Nick Fury was based on The Ultimates Nick Fury by Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch. He was purposely made to look like Samuel L Jackson. But I digress; yes, plenty of characters don't look like their source material
marcodol@reddit
Some people never grew up from their middle school petty bullying phase and it shows
eliisback@reddit
why would you cast an ugly person as a non-ugly character unless you wanted backlash?
OzzRamirez@reddit
Maybe looks isn't whats most important about this character?
Maybe looks shouldn't be all that important at all
lana_rotarofrep@reddit
It looks like acting isn’t important for that character either
Depressed_Lego@reddit
Yeah, so focus on that.
marcodol@reddit
Literally proving my point by saying an ugly person WILL necessarily get bullied
eliisback@reddit
that’s not the truth. people don’t go out of their way to bully ugly people who stay out of the spotlight and don’t try to put their opinions out there and basically stay a recluse. an ugly person typically has weak genes and as a sexually reproductive species, weak genes make us upset to even look at. if bella ramsey were not an actress then nobody would be bothering her. she put herself in the public eye thus opening herself up to criticism.
Nugglett@reddit
This guy talks about weak genes but prolly smells like ass and gets zero bitches
marcodol@reddit
Incredible bait, it has to be the most hilarious fucking comment i've ever seen. I respect the trolling, please keep at it.
cjbump@reddit
igerardcom@reddit
The resemblance is uncanny....
White-Monkey2407@reddit
He looks 8
Low_Abrocoma_1514@reddit
God this looks cursed
Low_Abrocoma_1514@reddit
There was a monster like lady, I don't remember from what media I saw her.. It was a naked bloated zombie like woman with bluish skin and black hair.. She was maybe in a well or something... She looks so alike
TrenchSquire@reddit
Entire series was poorly cast. So poorly i never watched a single episode. Ignorance is bliss. HBO just does that for publicity. Poor girl.
Fun1k@reddit
You've never seen an episode and think it was bad? I haven't played the games (I've seen tons of vids and read about it though), but I think the show was great. Maybe I'm not blinded by my expectations of how they should cast it, I just took it as a show.
spacemanaut@reddit
Well, your honesty about your own ignorance is refreshing at least.
buddy-bubble@reddit
So I'm really the only one who thinks she's cute hm?
IgotAseaView@reddit
This was literally the peak of woke culture. I’ll miss the madness in a funny old way
HolyToast@reddit
AnthonyCumsock1@reddit
Sure, half of the entire Internet just doesn't matter
HolyToast@reddit
Okay? That doesn't functionally change the point. Half the internet hating a casting choice doesn't make it "woke" either, I'm not sure what point you thought you were making.
Deadlymonkey@reddit
Using their logic, casting Daniel Craig as Bond was also woke because a ton of people hated it when he first got casted lol
Ignis_Imperia@reddit
Can you explain exactly how this is woke or is this woke in the sense that you wanna just say hateful things but are too scared to do you just say woke instead like your grifter YouTubers instructed you to
HazelCheese@reddit
I honestly think it's more likely they cast her because she has a baby face so she could play young and old Ellie without them needing a second actress.
Absinthicator@reddit
how this motherfucker be 40 and 2 at the same time? can I get you a fuckin' stogie?
browmftht@reddit
why did you save this screenshot for over a month before posting? the show is not relevant at the moment
Santer-Klantz@reddit
Fryndlz@reddit
Prigozyn looking good.
How2chair@reddit
Imagine just trying to do your best but the script is so shit that your apperance gets dragged into it
Deathgripsugar@reddit
YoItsThatOneDude@reddit
Hot over acting skills is just dei for girls lol
epicganerepic@reddit
Sometimes when i’m feeling down I just look at petty internet drama and realize truly how little of a loser I am
YeahDaleWOOO@reddit
Test Tube Gubgub
kronos91O@reddit
I don't have any problem with Ramsey but I do wanna choke slam the casting director.
StaryWolf@reddit
Can we not repost TLoU stuff, it brings all the losers out.
Facts_For_Plebs@reddit
She looks like a young Brian Peppers 🥰
Inevitable_Local_366@reddit
I was never against their looks in the show, I know that some actors/actresses can play a role amazingly while not looking exactly like the character. I think they did a pretty good job in the first season but I think that they weren’t able to depict part two Ellie very well because it didn’t seem like they were older. Just the same actresses but instead wanted you to act like they were older and different despite them still looking like a child compared to everyone else who was apparently around the same age as they were. Say what you want about the dialogue or scenes but I can’t blame them for just doing their job saying their lines and doing what the director wants them to do. The hate they get is misdirected when it should go towards the directors and screenwriters who decided to make them say the famous “I’m gonna be a dad” and the scenes that they changed to fit their new Ellie who was a immature unfitting out of character mess that they were in the second season.
An8thOfFeanor@reddit
Dr_Orpheus_@reddit
"Hey wait, I can just not watch things I don't like"
FMC_Speed@reddit
She was ok in game of thrones, but I don’t understand her later roles
JucaLebre@reddit
That show deserves to die
ForeverWN@reddit
Emergency_Draft1835@reddit
Emergency_Draft1835@reddit
https://i.redd.it/bacwt3hnwsbf1.gif
julysniperx@reddit
EMEYDI@reddit
Humpty Alexander Dumpty would be a far better choice for that role
Silver-Performer818@reddit
spicy_clownshoe@reddit
Real - anon appreciates self representation Gay - anon wants to rail a downy they/them
Drago_727@reddit
Please wait a little bit before low effort reposts man.