What's the CPL training path like in your country?
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I'm from Chile, and posting here I've realized the training here has some differences with US training. I'm doing my course in a 141 and on a C172 btw
First we start with PPL course. Where we first practice maneuvers like stalls, slow flight, and steep turns. After that we start practicing emergency procedures. Aborted takeoff, engine failure immediately after, 180° Power-off approach and engine failure in any moment of the flight. Next we go to nearby airfields to practice patterns, emergencies and landings there. All this before the first solo. We solo with 17 hours and get to the checkride with 40,8. Before the first solo we make a lesson with just patterns and engine failures. After the solo we have 7 more lessons intercalated between dual and solo, practicing maneuvers, but adding Chandelle and Lazy eight.
After the last solo, we have our first exam, this exam is a strainer: you pass, you go to XC; you fail twice, you're out. Just like that. We do 2 dual cross countries and 2 solo ones to check that DGAC (Chilean FAA) requirement. After the 4 XCs we do one more lesson to repractice maneuvers before the final course exam. Second strainer: you pass, you go to the checkride; you fail twice, bye bye...
We normally finish PPL with 42 hours, although I finished with 55 because I struggled with simulated emergencies.
After getting the PPL we continue with a navigation phase (NAV) to gather hours. This phase consists of 6 chart XC flights (4 dual, 1 solo and 1 exam) and 11 gps XCs. (6 dual, 3 solos, a 300 NM dual and an exam) Both exams are also strainers. We finish this course with 100.0 hours plus any extra you had used
Then we get to IFR training. I'm on NAV rn but I think they have 10 simulator lessons, an exam, and then 8 plane lessons and an exam before the checkride. Exams here are also... You guessed it! STRAINERS!!!
Finally we do CPL, that's like PPL but shorter, with less tolerances. This course has both local and XC flights, an exam (you know how it goes) and the checkride. Finishing all the training with 150 hours plus extras you needed to use, and with this you can start working or apply to an airline as ATPL is not required to start in local airlines.
That's what I've been and what I'll have to go through to get my CPL. What about you? Where are you from? Is your path similar to mine?
Tradezulu@reddit
Canada.
Pre-solo you would need to be checked off on stalls, spins, spiral dive, and emergency procedures.
Then you’ll transition to lower air work which is forced approaches, precautionary landings and speciality takeoff and landings.
Late stages right before your flight test you do your dual and solo cross country. PPL around 60-70 hours.
Next you’ll do your CPL which has minimum 35 dual, 30 solo. Generally if you finished on the average hours for your PPL you can jump straight into CPL. You can do your flight test at 150 hours, but won’t get signed off until 200 hours.
Between 150-200 hours, you would do your multi engine rating, then finish it off with a multi engine IFR rating. Most people will choose to do their instructor rating too which will put you at around 230-250 hours.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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I'm from Chile, and posting here I've realized the training here has some differences with US training. I'm doing my course in a 141 and on a C172 btw
First we start with PPL course. Where we first practice maneuvers like stalls, slow flight, and steep turns. After that we start practicing emergency procedures. Aborted takeoff, engine failure immediately after, 180° Power-off approach and engine failure in any moment of the flight. Next we go to nearby airfields to practice patterns, emergencies and landings there. All this before the first solo. We solo with 17 hours and get to the checkride with 40,8. Before the first solo we make a lesson with just patterns and engine failures. After the solo we have 7 more lessons intercalated between dual and solo, practicing maneuvers, but adding Chandelle and Lazy eight.
After the last solo, we have our first exam, this exam is a strainer: you pass, you go to XC; you fail twice, you're out. Just like that. We do 2 dual cross countries and 2 solo ones to check that DGAC (Chilean FAA) requirement. After the 4 XCs we do one more lesson to repractice maneuvers before the final course exam. Second strainer: you pass, you go to the checkride; you fail twice, bye bye...
We normally finish PPL with 42 hours, although I finished with 55 because I struggled with simulated emergencies.
After getting the PPL we continue with a navigation phase (NAV) to gather hours. This phase consists of 6 chart XC flights (4 dual, 1 solo and 1 exam) and 11 gps XCs. (6 dual, 3 solos, a 300 NM dual and an exam) Both exams are also strainers. We finish this course with 100.0 hours plus any extra you had used
Then we get to IFR training. I'm on NAV rn but I think they have 10 simulator lessons, an exam, and then 8 plane lessons and an exam before the checkride. Exams here are also... You guessed it! STRAINERS!!!
Finally we do CPL, that's like PPL but shorter, with less tolerances. This course has both local and XC flights, an exam (you know how it goes) and the checkride. Finishing all the training with 150 hours plus extras you needed to use, and with this you can start working or apply to an airline as ATPL is not required to start in local airlines.
That's what I've been and what I'll have to go through to get my CPL. What about you? Where are you from? Is your path similar to mine?
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