CFI blues
Posted by Wise_Cartographer877@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 7 comments
Is it normal/ok for your CFI to tell you they taught you something when they didn't and aggressively yell at you each lesson and mistake you for another one of their students, and push you physically and say stop leaning on me when going over a manuever where we're banked heavily? A run on sentence know. But im typing as if im talking. I'm a student pilot, started a few years ago with some major life upheavals and now trying to finish what I started. Getting ready for my checkride, but it's been postponed due to some plane issues. Been flying with my new CFI for half a year (so not so new). I feel kind of stuck, it's too late and monetarilly costly to change CFIs, it's a tight community where I fly. However I feel like a punching bag and feel dread of what few lessons remain. Just wanted to know if anyone else experienced this and did they stick it out bc they were too far in and close to the end, and should I just receive it as tough love? What have your PPL CFI experiences been like? When is tough love simply impatience/aggression?
BPnon-duck@reddit
So you're still a student after a few years and then 6 straight months now? How many hours do you have?
Wise_Cartographer877@reddit (OP)
Let’s just say I have plenty. I can feel the judgment coming on, so let’s say I started training where half of the time lessons got cancelled due to weather, my first CFI left after 3 months bc they got their 1500 hours and then I didn’t get to start with a new CFI for another 3 months. Also without going into great detail, a life upheaval and pause on all training for over a year, which I resumed 6 months ago. All of that’s besides the point. The point is, is it ok ans normal for a CFI to do this?
BPnon-duck@reddit
Umm, there's no judgment here friend. It's a legitimate question based on your post.
Mountain-Cut-7708@reddit
You are footing the bill. You are the customer. You can tell the CFI to refrain from the yelling or you will take your business elsewhere. Stand up for yourself.
ATrainDerailReturns@reddit
It’s entirely possible that your CFI just sucks
But that “run on sentence” read like struggling student defense mechanisms to me
6 months in plenty of time to be checkride ready depending how often you fly, especially when you had X years of previous experience
Shit we are going to have a student who did his entire PPL 0-checkride between June and July
If you were close to doing your checkride it doesn’t make sense that there is stuff “he never taught you” because if he didn’t you wouldn’t be near the checkride
And your complaint about him complaining that you are leaned against him kinda underlines the point that you might be struggling. A pilot should sit straight and bank and be at the same angle of on bank the plane is, if you are leaning on him during a turn that likely means you aren’t holding yourself straight and in position and are instead allowing yourself to be pushed further away from the bank due to inertia and momentum. If I had a near checkride ready student allowing that I would might be frustrated too
Is it possible you are struggling and maybe need to be working harder on your end and your CFI is just exasperated and frustrated with your struggle or lack of progress?
Both can also be true of course, maybe you are struggling and slightly defensive and your CFI just sucks
Lirdon@reddit
Why is it an issue switching instructors? Did you pay them ahead for their lessons?
I was taught by an instructor who didn’t really teach me anything, and every time I’md do an internal checkride with another instructor, I’d find out that even though I’m really good at controlling the aircraft, and doing landings. There was a lot he never told me, and kind of expected me to fail so that I take more lessons.
Now for me, there was only this airfield anywhere close to me and only this instructor, the other one was the manager of the airfield, so he had little to no time for me anyways, and if I’d ask to switch to him, I’d never get to finish my license.
So I’d argue with my instructor and just grit my teeth until I finished my PPL. And still it took me way longer than it had to and cost me a lot and I eventually gave up on a career as a pilot.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Is it normal/ok for your CFI to tell you they taught you something when they didn't and aggressively yell at you each lesson and mistake you for another one of their students, and push you physically and say stop leaning on me when going over a manuever where we're banked heavily? A run on sentence know. But im typing as if im talking. I'm a student pilot, started a few years ago with some major life upheavals and now trying to finish what I started. Getting ready for my checkride, but it's been postponed due to some plane issues. Been flying with my new CFI for half a year (so not so new). I feel kind of stuck, it's too late and monetarilly costly to change CFIs, it's a tight community where I fly. However I feel like a punching bag and feel dread of what few lessons remain. Just wanted to know if anyone else experienced this and did they stick it out bc they were too far in and close to the end, and should I just receive it as tough love? What have your PPL CFI experiences been like? When is tough love simply impatience/aggression?
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