The confusing world of a gen x kid

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fullertonreport@reddit

Now it is happening with AI...

Prof: it's wrong to use AI.

Eventually at work: why aren't you using AI to increase productivity?

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Meng_Fei@reddit

You forgot the part where all the kids in the class who'd watched Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy start sniggering like idiots every time someone mentions "42"

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Rabbitscooter@reddit

When I was in school, it was more like:

Teacher: What is 17+25?

Me: 42

Teacher: Show me exactly how you got that number.

Me: I can't. I just know the correct answer in my head.

Teacher: Then it's wrong.

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I have a core memory in middle school of getting every answer correct but failing the test because I didn’t show work. Later that year I showed my work but bombed the test. However, since I showed my incorrect work so I got a B+. Go figure.

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LivingEnd44@reddit

She's right.

What are you going to do when asked to add numbers you can't count in your head? She's trying to impart a skill to you.

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kckitty71@reddit

All I hear is my inside voice saying, “Carry the one.”

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Jesus-balls@reddit

Common core? No child left behind right?

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regeya@reddit

Same! Also, here's a faster, more efficient way to do this...but absolutely don't do it this way or you'll get a failing grade.

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Desperate_Object_677@reddit

the purpose wasn’t to find out 17+25, it was to introduce the kid into how to do math: a system of logic and ideas which goes back, from adult to children for thousands of years and which is responsible for some part of every aspect of the modern world. they would have gotten it just as wrong if they looked it up in a book or asked a friend.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

Here comes the lame Ai influx…. Quick op, post a funny Ai-slop comeback!

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Deciheximal144@reddit

From what I've seen, GenX has been pretty chill about AI. I think it's because we were the generation that was raised with the promises of Star Trek tech, so now that some of this is happening, we just expect it.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! Not when you actually that this isn’t going to be a tool for the masses. It’s a tool that technocratic oligarchs (aka: fat techno-cats) will develop off of our labor to sell us shit and manipulate us.

This is essentially the plot from 1984, dude, fuckin’ wake up.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

You can't stop oligarchs from exploiting tech. They did the same thing with the machination of fabric processing. Luddies were trying to protect their jobs, but today we look back at them as tool-hating primitives. Because people who hate the spooling tech today are.

Again, your position will cease to exist as people raised without AI tech get old and die and are replaced by people raised with it. You are a dinosaur. That make you feel good?

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! You undervalue the human and there is so much more to art than simply the end product.

It can only regurgitate, it can’t think ahead and it won’t, because if it ever does it will realize that humanity is weak.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

The stagement "it can only do X" will also die out. We're a mere 3 years in from ChatGPT 3's release, when everyone suddenly noticed it.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

Yeah, and it sucks balls and so does the fact that so many people are so fuckin dumb about participating in their own downfall.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

Take a moment and use one of the better models sometime. I think you're really out of the loop on how fast this stuff is progressing.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! Gah me with a spoon, buttwad.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

This started with a sketch. Nice try.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

Oh, I bet.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

> Oh, I bet.

Bet lost kid. Go back to https://www.reddit.com/r/Millennials/

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! It’s really not hard to learn how to draw instead of rising off of everyone else’s coattails.

Probably should learn to write too.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

It's not hard to learn to churn butter, either. I still buy it from the store because the process is easier.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

I mean, you could compare apples to oranges.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

It's all about hating on modern tools.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

A tool bought off of my labour? No, that’s not Gen X, unless your a penny loafered yuppie.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

Gen X buys lots of butter instead of churning it.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

Speak for yourself.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! Imagine thinking you’re winning with this Great Value Bazooka Joe strip.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenX/comments/1lu7ldg/comment/n1w5c3g/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Your not bouncing back well. Playing the neighborhood bully while surrounded by gen-x is not a strong strategy.

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Deciheximal144@reddit

You're on the right side here, mongoose.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

Sorry you feel bullied, maybe you should tell your Mommy.

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Ok_Entrepreneur_8509@reddit

He'll have to build a bigger calculator to figure out what the question was.

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Medium-Mission5072@reddit

"you won't be walking around with a calculator in your pocket at all times" -every math teacher I had.

I laugh every time I have to use the one on my phone which you guessed I walk around with in my pocket as all times.

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ApplianceHealer@reddit

I had the Casio calculator watch. Teachers freaked out about that one too. Saw one on a gen Z kid in the wild recently!

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Medium-Mission5072@reddit

I had one too in 4th grade. My teacher took it away from me and gave it to my mom. She wouldn’t allow me to wear it to school after that.

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ApplianceHealer@reddit

I also remember the news, delivered begrudgingly, that we could use spell check on our elementary school writing assignments. (Joke’s on me, no computer until much later!)

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LivingEnd44@reddit

You do need to know how to do math manually. Even if you want to use a calculator for speed or convenience. I think that was the point of this.

If you can't do it manually, you don't know math.

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DrCarabou@reddit

This is a cartoon generated by AI for the purpose of defending using AI for art.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

Illustrator for 20 years. Nice try.

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DrCarabou@reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/DefendingAIArt/comments/1lthbe3/the_artitude_is_something_like_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

Yes, and I still created it from sketch, like my 16,000 illustrations before AI was invented.

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DrCarabou@reddit

What indication is there at all you made this? There's not even a signature.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

You've probably seen my work before. And no, my digital images (usually stock) do not have signatures on them.

The bulbous heads and limbs are my style. Another one coming...

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DokeyOakey@reddit

lol! Style. Fuck outta here.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

These are 3d derived from my earlier vectors of the same chars.

So before you do the AI-hysteria trick consider.

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DokeyOakey@reddit

“Characters”.

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DrCarabou@reddit

I mean, again, I'm really just taking your word for it. None of these images have any indicators as to who made them, and the stylistic similarities aren't a hole in one comparison. This post is only 2 hrs old and this same image was posted elsewhere yesterday, specifically on a sub that defends AI art. It's not a wild conclusion.

This isn't really worth my time though, so you do you.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

Frankly your interest amazes me. But yes, I agree, its not necessarily your concern.

And I do defend AI art, but I made this as a gen-xer and intended to put it here anyways after my other gen x post dropped a bit. https://www.reddit.com/r/GenX/comments/1ltdlxy/they_actually_did_away_with_the_guitar_echo_in/

I also do linux. rm -rf \~/silly_convo_about_authenticity.

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ElGuappo_999@reddit

You should see the gymnastics in use today to solve a simple problem. I’m so glad my boys Graduated when they did.

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ApplianceHealer@reddit

My kid caught the last gasp of common core math. Bar models can get fucked—got marked wrong if you didn’t show the answer using the bullshit shortcut they were trying to teach.

“The goal is to understand what you’re doing…rather than to get the right answer.” —Tom Lehrer, “New Math”

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kd8qdz@reddit

"YoU wOnT aLwAyS hAvE a CaLcUlAtOr On YoU!!!"

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Cool_Dark_Place@reddit

No, but I'll have something more powerful than the fastest supercomputer on the planet!

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Jesus-balls@reddit

You're not always going to have a complete up to date encyclopedia library on you all the time either. Or a map. Or a flashlight.

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Ahkhira@reddit

Yes, I will, but I'll be using it to watch funny videos of cats.

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Ha-So@reddit

What's sad about that is I have this weird thing with mathmatics like that.

Started when I took the ASVAB when considering joining the Navy out of High Schiol in 88. Before that, I needed both hands to count to ten, but something snapped when doing the math portion and blazed through it in like 20 seconds and have been sort of a calculator for simple math since.

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ethan__l2@reddit

Also wrong because you consulted someone else. You must come up with the answer 100% on your own.

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SplendidPunkinButter@reddit

I mean, yeah, if the goal is for you to learn how to do this particular thing and not just to come up with the answer by any means possible, then that’s valid

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ethan__l2@reddit

We're living in a "by any means possible" world.

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Rich_Forever5718@reddit

I mean, you still don't get this at your age? Yes, some teachers were dumb about it, but you aren't learning anything by using a calculator (which was the point of school). The exercise was to demonstrate that you know how to get the answer. You didn't get useful internet or cell phones for another 30 years so, what would you have done until then? Carry a calculator around in your pocket?

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discourse_friendly@reddit

Until you are in the class where you need a TI-82 / TI-85

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Pose2Pose@reddit

Still remember teachers saying "It's important to learn to do it yourself because you won't always have a calculator in your hand." Nowadays, you don't even need to use the calculator app on your phone, just type the math into Google!

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Rich_Forever5718@reddit

Yeah, but they said that 40 years ago... You didn't get the (useful) internet or cell phones until years later. I can see where they are coming from because you can't learn it if you are using a calculator.

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COVFEFE-4U@reddit

Google Lens is amazing for sorting out some of my kids' poorly worded math problems.

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ApplianceHealer@reddit

Same mindset that denied a VFX Oscar to the original Tron. You used a computer = that’s “cheating”

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theflamingskull@reddit

It really is important to understand simple math.

I recently bought something from a liquor store that cost $15.50, so I have the cashier $21. And was confused, have me back the dollar, plus the change. I gave her back five ones for the five. She was a woman in her 20s who said she sucks at math.

The problem is that this is a regular issue.

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Fun_Reputation5181@reddit

In ten years this same meme will work for ChatGPT and LLMs. My kids teachers go to great lengths to police use of these tools and consider it cheating, rather than accepting the future and teaching them how to use it. Nearly exactly the same story as calculators for us back in the day.

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mongoose@reddit (OP)

Using a calculator allows me to quickly learn the relationships between numbers, increasing my desire to learn.

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Difficult_Leg_4615@reddit

This is happening right now, check out r/teachers

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Windows_96_Help_Desk@reddit

If you can't show your work the answer is WRONG.....

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Windows_96_Help_Desk@reddit

Also....what units? Bananas? Footballs? WRONG!

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GhostFour@reddit

Show your work!

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Life_Transformed@reddit

Our brains were going to be mush from TV and calculators, and we didn’t appreciate anything because we didn’t have to walk 10 miles to school in the snow!

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