It’s a very long way from being deployable in this way for adults in any kind of safe manner. Fact is even this was a dangerous move that could’ve easily made things worse.
That’s confirmation bias. He was on a sand bar with an adult with people knowing where he was. It worked this time but he could’ve have easily fallen and been pulled down river, drowning or being lost if he didn’t get injuries from the fall. Taking risks like this in SAR can easily make things go from bad to worse because the kid has weak arms on a wet rope, the rope brakes, the drone can’t handle the unknown weight of the kid, the person rigging doesn’t know how to tie knots for the kind of load etc
Confirmation bias is your opinion. Everyone’s got one. And you are wrong by the way. I said the risk of no action resulting in possible death versus the risk of attempting the rescue was worth the attempt. The same risk analysis every first responder makes on every rescue. I could sleep at night having tried the option. I couldn’t having done nothing and the kid drowns.
You have no clue about the larger situation, it’s possible that additional rains were either forecast or occurring up river meaning additional water rise was imminent.
One other thing, do you think for a split second that this same exact thing would not have been attempted more recently in Texas had a drone like that been available?
The drone in this case was available, and the rescue worked. You have zero in the way of argument to say that this isn’t significant moving forward as an option for rescue needs.
Let’s assume the kid stuck in the weeds in the middle of a flooding river is your child, your brother or sister wife etc. With no helicopter close by and no other option you would stand by calmly and allow situation go on without action. That’s your call. Good luck with it. I hope you can swim.
Me, I’m sending in the drone.
lol it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about and have never been a first responder or done technical rescue. If you wandered onto a SAR team spouting silly stuff like that they’d have you handing out Gatorade in a parking lot by sunrise before you got someone hurt or killed. Especially if an internet comment makes you this emotional. I’m not going to argue with someone who’s never been on the sharp end of a rope in their lives let alone one who didn’t pay attention to logical fallacies and heuristic traps in school/training.
Even if not just having professionals get eyes on and potentially deliver water, blankets and food and first aid equipment might be enough to keep them alive and/or comfortable until rescue can be made.
Plenty of people getting caught in a storm on mountains or in the snow where it may be to dangerous to send an aircraft (helicopter) but a drone that can drop a carepackage that only costs a few 1000 dollars is no problem risking.
My spouse and I were lost in a park at night. In total darkness. Thankfully it was a small park and we used gps to guide us out.
But I had a dream that night of a system deployed by S&R that is a hundred tiny, quad rotor, drones with infrared cameras and bright spot lights that can use GPS mapping of a park to not only search, but once found, be given a protocol to align along the path to light the way out with their own lights.
One day, I hope things like this can exist. It is never going to be enough, most parks are enormous, but it could maybe save a life someday.
Ground effect only happens from the ground to the height of the propellers’ diameter. So unless the props are 8-10 feet in diameter, the drone would be out of ground effect when lifting a human
Having hordes of rescue ready drones would really change outcomes in areas where people frequently go missing , get trapped or get lost. Even in the current Texas floods they could have helped finding people stuck somewhere, faster.
Yup. Even if they can't actually rescue people (obviously most drones don't have this kind of lifting capacity), they could be used to better augment SAR efforts. They are also a great force multiplier - a drone, even a T50, is massively cheaper to own and operate than a traditional helicopter.
But good luck making anything like that happen in Texas. Kerr County, which had some of the worst flooding, did not even have a properly-functioning alert system because "taxpayers won't pay for it" (exact quote from their county government). You think they'd pay for drones when they can't even fund a SMS/EAS alert system that would keep people from getting stranded in the first place? I have family in Texas, I would know - the area is a caricature of rugged individualism.
Republicans were still calling Covid a hoax as they were being intubated and breathing their last breath. There is no amount of evidence that would convince them of climate science. Even if they give you that the climate is changing because whole cities are under water they will claim sunspots or some other nonsense.
We need to ignore the morons and work to mitigate without them.
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A single county paying for things like a huge SAR infrastructure IS a waste of money. What SHOULD be in existence is rapidly deployable SAR infrastructure that can be deployed using the state National guard’s C130s.
I'm a military imagery analyst and it is insane to me how under utilized this tech is for SAR, even ignoring what drones bring to the table. A C172 with a surplus MX-10 or similar fitted would be a HUGE asset, or even just a guy looking out the open window of a Cub with FLIR binoculars. The only group I know of that does this is Civil Air Patrol and even they only have a handful of these.
Rotary wing drones are a little trickier because they're so low to the ground that it makes covering a large area difficult, but something like DOD's fixed wing VTOL drones would be perfect.
It’s going to have to be closer to 1000lb capacity. There’s not a SAR program in a developed nation that would allow a victim to secure themselves to a haul w/o oversight. So you’re going to have to have a rescuer plus the victim. Then you run into the safety factor, most places are going to want that vehicle to be able to handle 2x or more of the weight it’s intended to carry. So really quick you’re looking at much more expensive project. HOWEVER the helicopter I did SAR on was 3 million used and cost god knows how much an hour to run with a full crew so there’s a lot of room before the helicopter is cheaper.
Welcome to the wonderful world of red states. Where:
-Cities want counties to pay for necessary upgrades so they can give tax cuts to businessmen (those in charge).
-Counties want the state to pay so all the county coffers can go towards increasing customers to the commissioners' (officials that run the county) businesses.
-The governor (state) wants the fed to pay so state money can go to pork, bribes and golden wheelchair rims.
-Fed now wants to loop it all back around onto states so fed money can go to give massive cuts to the super wealthy.
It's a gigantic Ponzi scheme down here in texas...so good luck getting drones unless they're slated to only service wealthy republican donors.
Lots of police and fire departments are utilizing thermal cameras on drones to find missing people. It's amazing how well they work for finding a kid or elderly person lost in the woods.
Yes I'm aware, I've worked with law enforcement on systems like this. Like I said, it's a great force multiplier - drones are significantly cheaper, require less training and can access more places. But it was also not in the US, unlike America most other countries don't lose their mind over an exceedingly modest tax bill.
That obviously depends on the country, but I do absolutely agree with you. The tax rate where I live now (European country) is a tad higher, and VAT is pretty high. But you get something for that money. Single-payer healthcare means medical costs are much lower, even without insurance. Subsidized daycare means you aren't spending $2000+/month just for childcare. Higher fuel taxes means that driving is more expensive, but there are more alternatives, plus transit-oriented development means that you don't have to drive as much.
Meanwhile, the US federal government does tons of good, but grift and corruption means the money gets wasted. All that money for Medicare gets skimmed off by middlemen and bloated service providers. Government contracts are awarded as earmarks and pork-barrel spending, they are given out as awards for the buddies of politicians, not based on value or need.
Force multiplier: Food and water deliveries. As you stated down further infrared/heat for searches. Delivery of flotation devices. Delivery of a rope line. There are so many options, that the limitations are just the budgets.
Just imagine one of these with the massive god like lights/lamps/spotlight on it. Could light up entire work areas. Though I think you'd need tethered drones for the power required.
China gets it. They understand the full stack. They are rapidly advancing in solar technology, which feeds into battery technology, which feeds into better electric motors, which means better robots, drones, tools, cars, space vehicles, submersibles, etc. which feeds into better controls and software/firmware and better radio communications and better signal processing and better encryption and fleets and swarms and self-charging-self-aware flocks of drones with an AI managed Mission Control and individual “agentic” AI controlled drones.
They’re moving forwards while the USA is cutting all of these initiatives and doubling down on coal and oil to keep a few gajillionaires richer than God.
But you can imagine the cool search and rescue control centers that will be possible with the above tech in a proper first world country. Not here, in the USA, but in other places.
Smaller drones with IR imaging and AI review would be a pretty interesting experiment. Load ‘em on trucks, let them fly, evaluate within range and return before the truck moves to the next area on the search grid.
Water and shelter delivery in the Grand Canyon and other desert hiking areas would be huge. You'd probably need a satellite beacon like a SPOT. With the speed and range of these big ones you could probably deliver 20 liters of water, shelter, and first aid supplies within 20 minutes. (Just guessing 30 km service radius at 90 kph).
Ukraine has used drones to bring water and first aid supplies to stranded soldiers on the front, and iirc Czechia was starting to use thermal camera drones to find lost hikers in the mountains a couple years ago. Now they could definitely deliver a sleeping bag or small tent too, with the improved lift capacity.
I'd think a cell tower repeater would be doable, too. Or maybe a tower to Starlink bridge? Either way you could get signal to help find missing persons, or at the very least get them a chance to text or even call in their needs to rescuers.
This is probably far more risky than a manned helicopter rescue with a trained crew. How do you balance that with rescuing someone from a risky (life threatening) situation.
Well what you are saying assumes that we have all the available helicopters and training crews available whenever. Surely this is more so about when all the crews have been dispatched or when these people get tired and very few can come at that exact time to try to get them out when waiting 3 minutes later could cause them to lose their grip from
Fatigue or risk having a lot more water come rushing down.
I mean, I’m not saying that I would implement right away. Of course you need testing and protocols.
But you are acting as if this should never be used. You are acting as if we can always get all the necessary equipment needed to get their in a timely manner when multiple searches are going on and resources have to be distributed to certain parts and that time isn’t of an essence.
The liability part, yea, welcome to America where everything is about suing…
It can all be solved? lol you are acting as if there isn’t constrains…
Naw I think I’m just saying that even if we had the money to afford “hords” of units the true cost is everything around it, not the list price. If all the other things weren’t taken into account we’d end up with drones in a box in a corner, unused.
Agree that time vs. safety is a real issue. In the Texas flood, some helicopters were as much as 6 hours away. Having something local would make a huge difference.
Cost would also be a huge plus for drones.
Search and rescue helicopters can cost $3 million or more. The annual cost on a helicopter can be $100k In maintenance plus another $100k pilot.
Imagine if local fire rescue had a drone capable of lifting 100-250kg. While initial cost may be $50k-$100k, modern drones are much easier to fly and local rescue folks could be trained. Agriculture drones can fly a specified path using GPS.
You would probably need a gas drone or good supply of swappable batteries since most electric drones only last about 15 minutes Per charge.
Safety could be improved with a longer rope, a real harness, or a stretcher.
A loitering drone would be helpful for search so rescue drone could focus on rescuing located folks.
These are agriculture drones and they have charging equipment that rapidly charge batteries to ensure near continuous flight all day long. You have to have a big generator. Guys put everything on a trailer and go. Some youtube videos on it.
Anyway, the issue becomes challenging when things get “real”. On paper joe firefighter can get trained in a day. But city insurance companies will not want joe firefighter to be doing these operations without certification airframe, certified pilots, and certified maintainers. Recurrent training. On and on. All these things both protect the public from harm but also cause harm to the public.
Sure a manned helicopter would be great but you could also deploy maybe 50 drones for the price of one helicopter. When time is of essence 50 drones can scan the same area much faster and then maybe send in the manned helicopter to the specific site.
Oh fuck yeah and we'd lose less rescuers too. Why aren't we funding mass production of rescue drone? Climate change will only make natural disasters like the Texas floods more common and these things could transport mass supplies to where people are safe but cut off.
In my area drones are now being used to located not just missing individuals but also those running from law enforcement. Have a big area of vegetation that might contain the person you're looking for? Instead of sending in a dozen people to slowly comb the land you can send in a single drone and save countless hours.
Turns out prevention is way cheaper than treatment when it comes to disasters. We have these idiots wanting to build in a flood plain and then also.defund NOAA.... but if some quad copter manufacture can get a sweet bribe going I'm sure well have the mo ey for it
Every visit to TX hurt me. Didn't even know fire ants existed until my brat cousin pushed me into one of their hills when I was 7 or 8. They hadn't made it to my part of the country yet.
Every headline involving the numerous TX anti-citizen political policies that lead to deaths like these also hurt me, because I have family all over that state still.
Someone listed a different limit above, so that was what I was working from. Maybe it was a different model or the person misspoke, but they even linked the specs IIRC.
In a heroic moment, a Chinese DJI T50 agricultural drone was used to rescue two children stranded in a fast-moving river in Gia Lai, Vietnam. The drone, typically used for farming with a 50 kg payload, was flown across the river with a rope to pull the kids to safety. The third child was saved by boat. The DJI T50, worth around $11,500, is one of the most powerful farming drones and proved its strength beyond agriculture.
I've seen videos of drones escorting Russian soldiers who have surrendered safely to Ukrainian lines, they'll drop water and instructions to them then guide them back.
For those who are curious here's the technical specs:
https://ag.dji.com/t50/specs
I was wondering what soft of job an agricultural drone did but it seems mainly spraying and spreading (seeds & fertiliser I presume)
The other thing that strikes me is this sort of machine may spell the end of things like the classic Air Tractor as an agricultural machine. Seems bitter sweet, that's an impressive machine too, but crop dusting is incredibly dangerous.
Might spell the end for the air tractor over time but not quickly. Probably a lot of smaller farms who would have never even considered aerial spreading will acquire UAS given the much lower cost of entry.
Definitely not 24/7. Chemicals have very specific spraying windows with specific weather conditions that must be met. Speed is the name of the game when spraying, not longevity
Drone spray trailers only hold up to 4 drones right now. In Canada, drones are basically only done custom, and custom applicators won’t bring out multiple trailers per field.
Wind is huge factor in spraying, you will never be able to spray 24/7 because drift can get really bad, especially with aerial app. Also you don’t want too much dew on the plants, and you obviously can’t spray when it’s raining. Not to mention that you aren’t supposed to spray stuff like 2,4-D at night
You'd still need an operational ground crew to maintain the flight and to load the hopper etc. And you can't let them fly w/o an operator in most jurisdictions.
But it would reduce overhead costs dramatically, pilot don't need extensive check rides, certs and medicals, airframe doesn't need an extensive C check every x hours, no need for an airstrip, rock bottom risk to human life.
The autonomous capabilities of these drones are already pretty damn good, only going to get better.
I'd imagine aircraft will still be the preferred/faster method for large fields. Once the drones are fully autonomous (including recharging and restocking whatever they are spreading) then they'll likely quickly become the norm.
Well you'll still likely be recharging them off of gas powered generators (still likely cheaper than fueling a plane). But that's not my point, once you're taking care of thousands of acres a single drone won't cut it, not a farmer but as far as I understand timing is crucial. So you'll need a bunch and with that a bunch of operators, way more points of failure, way more coordination needed and it quickly starts sounding like a logistics nightmare compared to one plane, one pilot, one restocking hub.
that being said I have no idea what the "state of the art" is here. Maybe my concerns for big fields are long solved.
What I’m about to say only applies to what I know, which is Canadian agriculture on the Prairies.
Spraying is very time sensitive, so the issue isn’t how long a plane can run, it’s how fast it can spray a field. That applies to drones too.
Right now the largest spray drone trailers hold four drones. That is fine for smaller fields (quarter sections of 160ac), but larger 1000+ ac fields are too big for four drones right now. Planes will still dominate the market for spraying large fields without causing tramline damage, but I predict that drones will take over most of the spray plane demand.
Also, spray planes operate on a “custom” basis. That means that a farmer hires the plane to spray their field. Right now that is how the spray drone market works too. A farmer would hire a company to spray their field with multiple drones that come with their own trailer. Since you need many drones to finish a field fast enough, I bet that only the biggest farmers will own spray drones until the cost comes down.
I am not sure. Aircraft require landing fields unless a helicopter then the costs are extremely high. And you still need support people so the 'recharging and restocking' is not an extra cost. More so, typically see a single person running a drone where an aircraft, particularly helicopter, you often have two people.
Spray planes won’t be going anywhere for a while until the regulations catch up for spray drones. In Canada, drones are only permitted to spray certain chemicals and the infrastructure around the drones isn’t really built up yet.
Right now drones can’t compete with planes in speed. The largest spray drone trailers only hold four drones, and that simply isn’t enough to compete with a plane in ac/hour. Many chemicals have a short application window, so speed is important. So while drones currently do fine in smaller fields like a quarter section (160ac), bigger fields that take up multiple sections (1000+ ac) are basically impossible for drones to spray with our current technology.
Typically you have 2 or 3 batteries. Flip out the battery at the same time you restock the drone. 2 always on charger. The one I seen has a supper fast battery cassette. Flip out and in in about 10 seconds.
You can put more batteries in the drone but then you loose payload.
if you have 30,000mAh battery, just put 30Ah instead
They're using the most commonly used measurement for the masses, as most people are familiar with it due to their other devices & power banks. I think it's just for helping the layperson to easily understand how it relates.
They're, for now, much more expensive and labor/time intensive of a way to spray a field. They do have a niche though for fields that a ground rig or a plane can't hit effectively either because of ground conditions or terrain or surrounding obstacles. Also good for spot treatments.
For now air tractors are still king for large production scale spraying. No doubt eventually aerial application will eventually be unmanned. It will just will be a while. There's also regulatory hurdles to get through. There's issues in Canada with a lot of pesticides not being approved for aerial application. In the US there's a very real possibility that the sale of DJI drones will be banned by the end of year and there's not really anyone else making an alternative for a reasonable price that I know of.
DJI really is the undisputed king of consumer & industrial drones.
I wonder if DJI or some company will develop a specific harness for search and rescue ops, maybe for bigger drones that can carry heavies payloads. There was this video from a few days ago showing drones being used in the exact same way to rescue a man from a flood in China.
Some of the most incredible drone rescue footage I've seen is from one of the world's tallest mountains, Broad Peak. The drone is flying at over 7,000 meters and helps locate and guide both the climber they're looking for and the rescue party towards each other. A DJI drone, as you'd expect.
It was piloted by Bartek Bargiel who was there as his brother Andrzej Bargiel was about to ski down K2, which he did successfully.
Nobody is arguing that. It's just interesting to see a cool event on the other side of the world that people want to awkwardly shoehorn a political comment into.
There's not because that would make the drone a passenger aircraft and subject it to far stricter rules and regulations that would skyrocket the price.
Firefighting drones are in limited operation now, but actually rescuing ppl from highrises is going to take more work I imagine. It's the same issue with helicopters, in that unless you land on the roof there's no safe way to grab someone from a window on a high floor.
It's easy for folks who don't know better to underestimate how much energy moving water contains. This is killing current for someone who isn't prepared.
Why did you turn into l33t speak all of a sudden. If you're trying to make a clever point then it missed. The river is moving but not that fast, the kid probably can't just swim it but the guy apparently managed to get to him and have enough control to get him into a sling. Could he not have just picked the kid up and walked back the way he came?
The reddit deleted my previous comment because I was mentioning firearms. So I had to resort to cryptic language to beat the AI.
6 years back I witnessed my classmate and childhood friend being swept away in 4 feet of mildly fast water and I had to sit there crying in the rain for hours before the rescue team found his dead body couple of kilometres downstream. So I get pissed when someone underestimates the power of flowing water and makes idiotic comments regarding to the safety of people at risk.
It’s even worse. I am not from western hemisphere. I know people who cannot use the actual spelling of their names or some words from their native language because it looks like something offensive in English.
Watching this reminds me of sci-fi like Bladerunner and Terminator! I'm also asking myself if its as impressive as all that though..? I guess it's ultimately gyros, propellers and batteries like we've had a long time, only they're all way better than they used to be 30 or so years ago? Still- makes you wonder what we might be using 30 or so years from now...
Maldivesblue@reddit
Ok this is pretty amazing. A new game in the SAR niche.
Burque_Boy@reddit
It’s a very long way from being deployable in this way for adults in any kind of safe manner. Fact is even this was a dangerous move that could’ve easily made things worse.
Maldivesblue@reddit
Or the kid could have drown. I’m going with the risk versus reward was manageable and a life was saved.
Burque_Boy@reddit
That’s confirmation bias. He was on a sand bar with an adult with people knowing where he was. It worked this time but he could’ve have easily fallen and been pulled down river, drowning or being lost if he didn’t get injuries from the fall. Taking risks like this in SAR can easily make things go from bad to worse because the kid has weak arms on a wet rope, the rope brakes, the drone can’t handle the unknown weight of the kid, the person rigging doesn’t know how to tie knots for the kind of load etc
Maldivesblue@reddit
Confirmation bias is your opinion. Everyone’s got one. And you are wrong by the way. I said the risk of no action resulting in possible death versus the risk of attempting the rescue was worth the attempt. The same risk analysis every first responder makes on every rescue. I could sleep at night having tried the option. I couldn’t having done nothing and the kid drowns. You have no clue about the larger situation, it’s possible that additional rains were either forecast or occurring up river meaning additional water rise was imminent. One other thing, do you think for a split second that this same exact thing would not have been attempted more recently in Texas had a drone like that been available? The drone in this case was available, and the rescue worked. You have zero in the way of argument to say that this isn’t significant moving forward as an option for rescue needs. Let’s assume the kid stuck in the weeds in the middle of a flooding river is your child, your brother or sister wife etc. With no helicopter close by and no other option you would stand by calmly and allow situation go on without action. That’s your call. Good luck with it. I hope you can swim. Me, I’m sending in the drone.
Burque_Boy@reddit
lol it’s obvious you have no idea what you’re talking about and have never been a first responder or done technical rescue. If you wandered onto a SAR team spouting silly stuff like that they’d have you handing out Gatorade in a parking lot by sunrise before you got someone hurt or killed. Especially if an internet comment makes you this emotional. I’m not going to argue with someone who’s never been on the sharp end of a rope in their lives let alone one who didn’t pay attention to logical fallacies and heuristic traps in school/training.
MikeTangoRom3o@reddit
Assuming the victim is in relative cognitive and physical good shape to hold the rope.
EtherealMongrel@reddit
Helicopter with drone onboard flies to victim, rescuer flies down on drone, attaches victim who flies up solo, then drone comes back for rescuer.
09Trollhunter09@reddit
Grappling mechanisms at the end of the rope
Hyperious3@reddit
considering this kind of flooding trap event is relatively common, it'd be a great use of the tech.
Like imagine Katrina if they had these.
christoffer5700@reddit
Even if not just having professionals get eyes on and potentially deliver water, blankets and food and first aid equipment might be enough to keep them alive and/or comfortable until rescue can be made.
Plenty of people getting caught in a storm on mountains or in the snow where it may be to dangerous to send an aircraft (helicopter) but a drone that can drop a carepackage that only costs a few 1000 dollars is no problem risking.
pishboy@reddit
That's alright, it just means less burden on assets that could be used for incapacitated casualties
Disastrous-Pair-6754@reddit
My spouse and I were lost in a park at night. In total darkness. Thankfully it was a small park and we used gps to guide us out.
But I had a dream that night of a system deployed by S&R that is a hundred tiny, quad rotor, drones with infrared cameras and bright spot lights that can use GPS mapping of a park to not only search, but once found, be given a protocol to align along the path to light the way out with their own lights.
One day, I hope things like this can exist. It is never going to be enough, most parks are enormous, but it could maybe save a life someday.
murfburffle@reddit
That's a cool idea!
SadBit8663@reddit
God damn, that's a big ass drone. And I don't know why never considered a rescue drone before...
I'd take my chances of crashing horribly with a drone over drowning in a flooded/hard to reach aquatic areas.
320sim@reddit
Drones are extremely simple and reliable. It would only crash if you were too heavy, but if that were true it wouldn’t lift off
Sandman3582@reddit
Nah, in the right circumstances it'll totally take off yet crash seconds later.
Ground effect being the main thing I can see, plus a wind gust & its over if the unguarded blades get unlucky.
320sim@reddit
Ground effect only happens from the ground to the height of the propellers’ diameter. So unless the props are 8-10 feet in diameter, the drone would be out of ground effect when lifting a human
xdr567@reddit
Having hordes of rescue ready drones would really change outcomes in areas where people frequently go missing , get trapped or get lost. Even in the current Texas floods they could have helped finding people stuck somewhere, faster.
wandering_engineer@reddit
Yup. Even if they can't actually rescue people (obviously most drones don't have this kind of lifting capacity), they could be used to better augment SAR efforts. They are also a great force multiplier - a drone, even a T50, is massively cheaper to own and operate than a traditional helicopter.
But good luck making anything like that happen in Texas. Kerr County, which had some of the worst flooding, did not even have a properly-functioning alert system because "taxpayers won't pay for it" (exact quote from their county government). You think they'd pay for drones when they can't even fund a SMS/EAS alert system that would keep people from getting stranded in the first place? I have family in Texas, I would know - the area is a caricature of rugged individualism.
Beginning_Beach_2054@reddit
We're the richest country in the world ffs, its sad that we dont have drones with this capability for every SAR team across the country.
MyWholeSelf@reddit
Regulations will do that. It's literally illegal to make one.
Beginning_Beach_2054@reddit
Its literally illegal for the US government to make one? Cmon now.
wandering_engineer@reddit
But then poor brown people might get help they don't deserve!
blastcat4@reddit
Eventually there will be more climate crisis events that affect the places where white conservatives live and then we'll see some change!
PasserOGas@reddit
Not true.
Republicans were still calling Covid a hoax as they were being intubated and breathing their last breath. There is no amount of evidence that would convince them of climate science. Even if they give you that the climate is changing because whole cities are under water they will claim sunspots or some other nonsense.
We need to ignore the morons and work to mitigate without them.
Rdubya291@reddit
Yikes, man.
Absolutely horrid of you. You must be a truly vile person.
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digby99@reddit
36Trillion in debt will do that to you.
Beginning_Beach_2054@reddit
Got plenty of money for our military or Israel tho
percussaresurgo@reddit
And ICE concentration camps.
Wheream_I@reddit
A single county paying for things like a huge SAR infrastructure IS a waste of money. What SHOULD be in existence is rapidly deployable SAR infrastructure that can be deployed using the state National guard’s C130s.
Drenlin@reddit
I'm a military imagery analyst and it is insane to me how under utilized this tech is for SAR, even ignoring what drones bring to the table. A C172 with a surplus MX-10 or similar fitted would be a HUGE asset, or even just a guy looking out the open window of a Cub with FLIR binoculars. The only group I know of that does this is Civil Air Patrol and even they only have a handful of these.
Rotary wing drones are a little trickier because they're so low to the ground that it makes covering a large area difficult, but something like DOD's fixed wing VTOL drones would be perfect.
Pure_Expression6308@reddit
They could save animals 🥲
F1McLarenFan007@reddit
I can’t see why rescue drones capable of say 300 pounds payload capacity can’t be made it’s a great idea.
Burque_Boy@reddit
It’s going to have to be closer to 1000lb capacity. There’s not a SAR program in a developed nation that would allow a victim to secure themselves to a haul w/o oversight. So you’re going to have to have a rescuer plus the victim. Then you run into the safety factor, most places are going to want that vehicle to be able to handle 2x or more of the weight it’s intended to carry. So really quick you’re looking at much more expensive project. HOWEVER the helicopter I did SAR on was 3 million used and cost god knows how much an hour to run with a full crew so there’s a lot of room before the helicopter is cheaper.
F1McLarenFan007@reddit
Yeah all good points, maybe tech will bridge the gap sometime in the future
RGrad4104@reddit
As soon as tech narrows the gap, the lawyers will find a way to widen it even further.
haarschmuck@reddit
Because they are legally classified as aircraft and with that comes a whole host of regulatory red tape.
Pinewold@reddit
Agree, there are agricultural drones for crop dusting whose capabilities are over 100lbs, so definitely
Porkyrogue@reddit
For those who are curious. Ag drones can, in some cases, run 10 gallons of water/insecticide at 8 pounds per gallon. Roughly 100 lbs.
RGrad4104@reddit
Welcome to the wonderful world of red states. Where:
-Cities want counties to pay for necessary upgrades so they can give tax cuts to businessmen (those in charge).
-Counties want the state to pay so all the county coffers can go towards increasing customers to the commissioners' (officials that run the county) businesses.
-The governor (state) wants the fed to pay so state money can go to pork, bribes and golden wheelchair rims.
-Fed now wants to loop it all back around onto states so fed money can go to give massive cuts to the super wealthy.
It's a gigantic Ponzi scheme down here in texas...so good luck getting drones unless they're slated to only service wealthy republican donors.
Futt_Buckman@reddit
They built the camps IN the dried riverbed. It's like they're too stupid for their own good
ChevTecGroup@reddit
Lots of police and fire departments are utilizing thermal cameras on drones to find missing people. It's amazing how well they work for finding a kid or elderly person lost in the woods.
Electrical-Lab-9593@reddit
in military they use them to find hiding soldiers, trying to avoid them, so it makes sense they would be great SAR!
wandering_engineer@reddit
Yes I'm aware, I've worked with law enforcement on systems like this. Like I said, it's a great force multiplier - drones are significantly cheaper, require less training and can access more places. But it was also not in the US, unlike America most other countries don't lose their mind over an exceedingly modest tax bill.
Vindictive_Turnip@reddit
The funny thing is, the effective tax rate in the US is pretty damn close, we just don't get any services from our taxes.
wandering_engineer@reddit
That obviously depends on the country, but I do absolutely agree with you. The tax rate where I live now (European country) is a tad higher, and VAT is pretty high. But you get something for that money. Single-payer healthcare means medical costs are much lower, even without insurance. Subsidized daycare means you aren't spending $2000+/month just for childcare. Higher fuel taxes means that driving is more expensive, but there are more alternatives, plus transit-oriented development means that you don't have to drive as much.
Meanwhile, the US federal government does tons of good, but grift and corruption means the money gets wasted. All that money for Medicare gets skimmed off by middlemen and bloated service providers. Government contracts are awarded as earmarks and pork-barrel spending, they are given out as awards for the buddies of politicians, not based on value or need.
K_Linkmaster@reddit
Force multiplier: Food and water deliveries. As you stated down further infrared/heat for searches. Delivery of flotation devices. Delivery of a rope line. There are so many options, that the limitations are just the budgets.
mikkowus@reddit
I've seen thermal cameras being used to locate people by fire and police departments quite a bit lately in the USA
CiaphasCain8849@reddit
Just imagine one of these with the massive god like lights/lamps/spotlight on it. Could light up entire work areas. Though I think you'd need tethered drones for the power required.
Sonnk@reddit
Yes because local law enforcement likely would have the budget, not that they would then use those drones for that purpose.
Beanbag_Ninja@reddit
Well thoughts and prayers to them then.
Wookie-fish806@reddit
How can a person in distress get themselves onto the ropes attached to the drone? This boy had human help. I imagine survivors will be exhausted.
BraidRuner@reddit
The girl who fell in the Volcano story really hits home. No helicopter was available to rescue her or get help to her and she was left to die.
defiancy@reddit
People don't understand how big of a factor drones will be in the future, they will be everywhere.
69-xxx-420@reddit
China gets it. They understand the full stack. They are rapidly advancing in solar technology, which feeds into battery technology, which feeds into better electric motors, which means better robots, drones, tools, cars, space vehicles, submersibles, etc. which feeds into better controls and software/firmware and better radio communications and better signal processing and better encryption and fleets and swarms and self-charging-self-aware flocks of drones with an AI managed Mission Control and individual “agentic” AI controlled drones.
They’re moving forwards while the USA is cutting all of these initiatives and doubling down on coal and oil to keep a few gajillionaires richer than God.
But you can imagine the cool search and rescue control centers that will be possible with the above tech in a proper first world country. Not here, in the USA, but in other places.
CeleritasLucis@reddit
With IR cameras mounted on a fleet would reduce search and rescue time by a lot
sixsacks@reddit
Smaller drones with IR imaging and AI review would be a pretty interesting experiment. Load ‘em on trucks, let them fly, evaluate within range and return before the truck moves to the next area on the search grid.
eneka@reddit
I’m pretty sure there’s a guy that already does this helping people find lost pets
callsignmario@reddit
Good call. Also have them pre-programmed with search patterns, like the various FMS search patterns, with the vehichle as start/end point.
sixsacks@reddit
Coordination with manned aircraft is where it starts to get tricky, but its certainly a solvable problem.
ChevTecGroup@reddit
They are already being bought up by a lot of local PDs and FDs
Ok-Horror8163@reddit
HonoraryCanadian@reddit
Water and shelter delivery in the Grand Canyon and other desert hiking areas would be huge. You'd probably need a satellite beacon like a SPOT. With the speed and range of these big ones you could probably deliver 20 liters of water, shelter, and first aid supplies within 20 minutes. (Just guessing 30 km service radius at 90 kph).
jaimi_wanders@reddit
Ukraine has used drones to bring water and first aid supplies to stranded soldiers on the front, and iirc Czechia was starting to use thermal camera drones to find lost hikers in the mountains a couple years ago. Now they could definitely deliver a sleeping bag or small tent too, with the improved lift capacity.
CiaphasCain8849@reddit
There are also companies working on emergency blood transfusion drones too. Blood in a combat zone could massively save life's.
HonoraryCanadian@reddit
I'd think a cell tower repeater would be doable, too. Or maybe a tower to Starlink bridge? Either way you could get signal to help find missing persons, or at the very least get them a chance to text or even call in their needs to rescuers.
jared_number_two@reddit
This is probably far more risky than a manned helicopter rescue with a trained crew. How do you balance that with rescuing someone from a risky (life threatening) situation.
TheseAcanthaceae9680@reddit
Well what you are saying assumes that we have all the available helicopters and training crews available whenever. Surely this is more so about when all the crews have been dispatched or when these people get tired and very few can come at that exact time to try to get them out when waiting 3 minutes later could cause them to lose their grip from Fatigue or risk having a lot more water come rushing down.
jared_number_two@reddit
Who is going to make that call? Who takes liability if the drone kills someone? It can all be solved but have to be realistic about it.
TheseAcanthaceae9680@reddit
I mean, I’m not saying that I would implement right away. Of course you need testing and protocols.
But you are acting as if this should never be used. You are acting as if we can always get all the necessary equipment needed to get their in a timely manner when multiple searches are going on and resources have to be distributed to certain parts and that time isn’t of an essence.
The liability part, yea, welcome to America where everything is about suing…
It can all be solved? lol you are acting as if there isn’t constrains…
jared_number_two@reddit
Naw I think I’m just saying that even if we had the money to afford “hords” of units the true cost is everything around it, not the list price. If all the other things weren’t taken into account we’d end up with drones in a box in a corner, unused.
Pinewold@reddit
Agree that time vs. safety is a real issue. In the Texas flood, some helicopters were as much as 6 hours away. Having something local would make a huge difference.
Cost would also be a huge plus for drones.
Search and rescue helicopters can cost $3 million or more. The annual cost on a helicopter can be $100k In maintenance plus another $100k pilot.
Imagine if local fire rescue had a drone capable of lifting 100-250kg. While initial cost may be $50k-$100k, modern drones are much easier to fly and local rescue folks could be trained. Agriculture drones can fly a specified path using GPS.
You would probably need a gas drone or good supply of swappable batteries since most electric drones only last about 15 minutes Per charge.
Safety could be improved with a longer rope, a real harness, or a stretcher.
A loitering drone would be helpful for search so rescue drone could focus on rescuing located folks.
jared_number_two@reddit
These are agriculture drones and they have charging equipment that rapidly charge batteries to ensure near continuous flight all day long. You have to have a big generator. Guys put everything on a trailer and go. Some youtube videos on it.
Anyway, the issue becomes challenging when things get “real”. On paper joe firefighter can get trained in a day. But city insurance companies will not want joe firefighter to be doing these operations without certification airframe, certified pilots, and certified maintainers. Recurrent training. On and on. All these things both protect the public from harm but also cause harm to the public.
xdr567@reddit
Sure a manned helicopter would be great but you could also deploy maybe 50 drones for the price of one helicopter. When time is of essence 50 drones can scan the same area much faster and then maybe send in the manned helicopter to the specific site.
itsaride@reddit
Oh fuck yeah and we'd lose less rescuers too. Why aren't we funding mass production of rescue drone? Climate change will only make natural disasters like the Texas floods more common and these things could transport mass supplies to where people are safe but cut off.
HGpennypacker@reddit
In my area drones are now being used to located not just missing individuals but also those running from law enforcement. Have a big area of vegetation that might contain the person you're looking for? Instead of sending in a dozen people to slowly comb the land you can send in a single drone and save countless hours.
maythe10th@reddit
Can’t have these! These are DJI, and it’s Chinese!
Longjumping_College@reddit
If only they had the budget for that
Gatt__@reddit
Dunno why you’re getting downvoted, they did this to themselves lol
ls7eveen@reddit
Turns out prevention is way cheaper than treatment when it comes to disasters. We have these idiots wanting to build in a flood plain and then also.defund NOAA.... but if some quad copter manufacture can get a sweet bribe going I'm sure well have the mo ey for it
ls7eveen@reddit
They should have also just never been allowed to build in a flood plain...
ScentientReclaim@reddit
Imagine if our gov't could be using this tech in TEXAS
sabin357@reddit
The payload limit is around 110lb, so they might not be of use in TX.
-Someone with family all over TX & spent too much time there visiting.
ScentientReclaim@reddit
Ouch, who hurt you
sabin357@reddit
Every visit to TX hurt me. Didn't even know fire ants existed until my brat cousin pushed me into one of their hills when I was 7 or 8. They hadn't made it to my part of the country yet.
Every headline involving the numerous TX anti-citizen political policies that lead to deaths like these also hurt me, because I have family all over that state still.
kiddico@reddit
no, the payload limit is 103kg, which is 227 lbs
sabin357@reddit
Someone listed a different limit above, so that was what I was working from. Maybe it was a different model or the person misspoke, but they even linked the specs IIRC.
NewChapter25@reddit
🤣
alrightcommadude@reddit
This is a Chyna drone. Chyna bad.
cookingboy@reddit
People are downvoting you but there is literally a bill from the GOP trying to ban DJI drones in this country lol.
maxru85@reddit
TIL Vietnam is using farming drones (or any country basically)
DarkTeaTimes@reddit
Charlie in the trees.
Burque_Boy@reddit
I mean good on em, it worked but damn that’s dangerous as hell
germansnowman@reddit
Better than drowning, I would think
emoemokade@reddit (OP)
In a heroic moment, a Chinese DJI T50 agricultural drone was used to rescue two children stranded in a fast-moving river in Gia Lai, Vietnam. The drone, typically used for farming with a 50 kg payload, was flown across the river with a rope to pull the kids to safety. The third child was saved by boat. The DJI T50, worth around $11,500, is one of the most powerful farming drones and proved its strength beyond agriculture.
one_more_byte@reddit
Is this the first documented instance of drone rescue?
LoudestHoward@reddit
I've seen videos of drones escorting Russian soldiers who have surrendered safely to Ukrainian lines, they'll drop water and instructions to them then guide them back.
Not exactly a rescue but kinda cool considering.
gsmitheidw1@reddit
For those who are curious here's the technical specs:
https://ag.dji.com/t50/specs
I was wondering what soft of job an agricultural drone did but it seems mainly spraying and spreading (seeds & fertiliser I presume)
The other thing that strikes me is this sort of machine may spell the end of things like the classic Air Tractor as an agricultural machine. Seems bitter sweet, that's an impressive machine too, but crop dusting is incredibly dangerous.
InspectionSouthern11@reddit
Might spell the end for the air tractor over time but not quickly. Probably a lot of smaller farms who would have never even considered aerial spreading will acquire UAS given the much lower cost of entry.
I_Like_Chasing_Cars@reddit
Not only that but these drones are autonomous so they could in theory target and spray for pests selectively and 24/7
etrain1804@reddit
Definitely not 24/7. Chemicals have very specific spraying windows with specific weather conditions that must be met. Speed is the name of the game when spraying, not longevity
I_Like_Chasing_Cars@reddit
So you have a fleet of 10 drones? Chemicals can absolutely be applied 24/7.
etrain1804@reddit
Drone spray trailers only hold up to 4 drones right now. In Canada, drones are basically only done custom, and custom applicators won’t bring out multiple trailers per field.
Wind is huge factor in spraying, you will never be able to spray 24/7 because drift can get really bad, especially with aerial app. Also you don’t want too much dew on the plants, and you obviously can’t spray when it’s raining. Not to mention that you aren’t supposed to spray stuff like 2,4-D at night
aaron666nyc@reddit
you misread what the person was trying to say. Raining? Windy? etc? not 24/7 regardless of number of drones that are owned
InspectionSouthern11@reddit
You'd still need an operational ground crew to maintain the flight and to load the hopper etc. And you can't let them fly w/o an operator in most jurisdictions.
But it would reduce overhead costs dramatically, pilot don't need extensive check rides, certs and medicals, airframe doesn't need an extensive C check every x hours, no need for an airstrip, rock bottom risk to human life. The autonomous capabilities of these drones are already pretty damn good, only going to get better.
cinyar@reddit
I'd imagine aircraft will still be the preferred/faster method for large fields. Once the drones are fully autonomous (including recharging and restocking whatever they are spreading) then they'll likely quickly become the norm.
ls7eveen@reddit
The way battery tech is advancing id think the electric power would be way cheaper
cinyar@reddit
Well you'll still likely be recharging them off of gas powered generators (still likely cheaper than fueling a plane). But that's not my point, once you're taking care of thousands of acres a single drone won't cut it, not a farmer but as far as I understand timing is crucial. So you'll need a bunch and with that a bunch of operators, way more points of failure, way more coordination needed and it quickly starts sounding like a logistics nightmare compared to one plane, one pilot, one restocking hub.
that being said I have no idea what the "state of the art" is here. Maybe my concerns for big fields are long solved.
etrain1804@reddit
Your concerns are very valid.
What I’m about to say only applies to what I know, which is Canadian agriculture on the Prairies.
Spraying is very time sensitive, so the issue isn’t how long a plane can run, it’s how fast it can spray a field. That applies to drones too.
Right now the largest spray drone trailers hold four drones. That is fine for smaller fields (quarter sections of 160ac), but larger 1000+ ac fields are too big for four drones right now. Planes will still dominate the market for spraying large fields without causing tramline damage, but I predict that drones will take over most of the spray plane demand.
Also, spray planes operate on a “custom” basis. That means that a farmer hires the plane to spray their field. Right now that is how the spray drone market works too. A farmer would hire a company to spray their field with multiple drones that come with their own trailer. Since you need many drones to finish a field fast enough, I bet that only the biggest farmers will own spray drones until the cost comes down.
Source: farmer
haarschmuck@reddit
They already are. That's how the DJI agriculture drones work, they spray defined areas and don't need to be controlled.
etrain1804@reddit
They aren’t yet. You still need someone on the ground to refill the drones and to change their batteries
The_Kadeshi@reddit
You still need a pilot maintaining visual LOS in the USA. But ya, they don't need pilot input anymore unless something goes wrong.
pzerr@reddit
I am not sure. Aircraft require landing fields unless a helicopter then the costs are extremely high. And you still need support people so the 'recharging and restocking' is not an extra cost. More so, typically see a single person running a drone where an aircraft, particularly helicopter, you often have two people.
etrain1804@reddit
Spray planes won’t be going anywhere for a while until the regulations catch up for spray drones. In Canada, drones are only permitted to spray certain chemicals and the infrastructure around the drones isn’t really built up yet.
Right now drones can’t compete with planes in speed. The largest spray drone trailers only hold four drones, and that simply isn’t enough to compete with a plane in ac/hour. Many chemicals have a short application window, so speed is important. So while drones currently do fine in smaller fields like a quarter section (160ac), bigger fields that take up multiple sections (1000+ ac) are basically impossible for drones to spray with our current technology.
IWatchGifsForWayToo@reddit
At about $25-$30,000 it's not terribly priced too.
Also, if you have 30,000mAh battery, just put 30Ah instead. That's just silly. But charging it in 12 minutes is pretty impressive.
pzerr@reddit
Typically you have 2 or 3 batteries. Flip out the battery at the same time you restock the drone. 2 always on charger. The one I seen has a supper fast battery cassette. Flip out and in in about 10 seconds.
You can put more batteries in the drone but then you loose payload.
sabin357@reddit
They're using the most commonly used measurement for the masses, as most people are familiar with it due to their other devices & power banks. I think it's just for helping the layperson to easily understand how it relates.
YABOI69420GANG@reddit
They're, for now, much more expensive and labor/time intensive of a way to spray a field. They do have a niche though for fields that a ground rig or a plane can't hit effectively either because of ground conditions or terrain or surrounding obstacles. Also good for spot treatments.
For now air tractors are still king for large production scale spraying. No doubt eventually aerial application will eventually be unmanned. It will just will be a while. There's also regulatory hurdles to get through. There's issues in Canada with a lot of pesticides not being approved for aerial application. In the US there's a very real possibility that the sale of DJI drones will be banned by the end of year and there's not really anyone else making an alternative for a reasonable price that I know of.
60TP@reddit
Around the price of a car, what’s stopping me from taking one to work?
3uphoric-Departure@reddit
DJI really is the undisputed king of consumer & industrial drones.
I wonder if DJI or some company will develop a specific harness for search and rescue ops, maybe for bigger drones that can carry heavies payloads. There was this video from a few days ago showing drones being used in the exact same way to rescue a man from a flood in China.
Irrepressible_Monkey@reddit
Some of the most incredible drone rescue footage I've seen is from one of the world's tallest mountains, Broad Peak. The drone is flying at over 7,000 meters and helps locate and guide both the climber they're looking for and the rescue party towards each other. A DJI drone, as you'd expect.
It was piloted by Bartek Bargiel who was there as his brother Andrzej Bargiel was about to ski down K2, which he did successfully.
proud_landlord1@reddit
Okay, but why….??? Why didn’t the drone just mind its own business??!
That_Style_979@reddit
In America they would charge $50,000 for this service
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WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot@reddit
Really shows you've got "America bad" looping in your head non-stop if that's your first reaction to this.
69-xxx-420@reddit
True. But it’s also common to I see a rescue and think “oof I could not afford that. I’d rather die.”
That_Style_979@reddit
Yeah, the country isn’t in a good state right now
themactastic25@reddit
Have you ever seen how much an ambulance trip costs?
WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot@reddit
Nobody is arguing that. It's just interesting to see a cool event on the other side of the world that people want to awkwardly shoehorn a political comment into.
headphase@reddit
How is that a political comment? Have you seen what it costs to be airlifted in the States?
WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot@reddit
You're going to tell me they just blurted out a fact like that with zero political intent? Ok.
SeriousMongoose2290@reddit
I wonder if there’s a commercial drone capable of lifting the average American lol
Source: I live here
NolanonoSC@reddit
Chinook helicopter
haarschmuck@reddit
There's not because that would make the drone a passenger aircraft and subject it to far stricter rules and regulations that would skyrocket the price.
JMoc1@reddit
Not yet. Not commercially anyways.
We do have rotary drones that can, but the military owns them.
Blind_Voyeur@reddit
And that service have already been cut to pay for tax cuts.
RunTheClassics@reddit
Ok
NewChapter25@reddit
OMG! yes this is so life changing. I had no idea drones could be that big or helpful
rdm55@reddit
How many times do you think this has been posted on facebook saying its Texas? /s
LaurenZNe@reddit
Why didn’t they use this for that lady that fell down the volcano in Indonesia???
Lawdoc1@reddit
Not the same situation, but this is giving me Interstellar vibes from early in the movie when they hijack the drone for use on their farm.
insomniaccapricorn@reddit
Go! Case, go get her
OsnoF69@reddit
Wonder what drone model is that? Glad the kid was saved!
Ruby_and_Hattie@reddit
Kid: "Hey, can we do that again? Pleeeeeeease . . . just once more" 😁
BraidRuner@reddit
How can a small drone be so flexible and yet the Ospery is the best we can do?
Successful_Speech734@reddit
Thank God the drone operator was better than the camera operator
rando_banned@reddit
Alexa, play Fortunate Son
Adept-Interaction730@reddit
I want a drone throne
fernandohg@reddit
This type of drone that should have been used with the female brazillian that died on the mountain
BaseUnited4523@reddit
If that kid had bought an American large engine SUV he never would have been in that situation. He'll know better next time!
-runs-with-scissors-@reddit
Imagine if we had had drones like that on 9/11.
It makes me still sad to remember/see old pictures of these poor people trapped in the upper sections of the towers.
PandaCheese2016@reddit
Firefighting drones are in limited operation now, but actually rescuing ppl from highrises is going to take more work I imagine. It's the same issue with helicopters, in that unless you land on the roof there's no safe way to grab someone from a window on a high floor.
-runs-with-scissors-@reddit
It‘s all but impossible, but drone technology is advancing at high speed currently.
Danitoba94@reddit
This is awesome.
It's nice to see drones serving humanitarian purposes for a change.
ronm4c@reddit
I’m not sure if I should be amazed or terrified by the advancements in drone technology
Tg3012508@reddit
VietFknNam is living in 2050!!!
SuperTropicalDesert@reddit
Anyone know why we haven't got these in Europe yet? (Don't know if you guys in the US have them yet)
PandaCheese2016@reddit
They are used in Europe, though I've no idea about market share. Here's a vid I found from an American perspective.
KMS_HYDRA@reddit
pretty sure i have seen some of the big ones in vids from ukraine, just that their usage was kind of the opposite of this one.
Soap_Mctavish101@reddit
That thing is huge!
cutthechatter_red2@reddit
Ok that’s pretty fucking cool.
Striker1102@reddit
FARMING DRONES?
Houndsthehorse@reddit
Very common, cheaper then a standard crop dusting set up
Simple_Jellyfish23@reddit
Fuck that’s a strong drone. I wonder how far it can travel hauling a person.
binaryfireball@reddit
meanwhile in texas....
RespectTheTree@reddit
U/reversegifbot
SixShoot3r@reddit
r/killthecameraman
otherwise, awesome!
Bornflying@reddit
100%, painful to watch
MrTretorn@reddit
They’re better equipped than Texas.
EmberTheFoxyFox@reddit
Did it go back for the other kid?
Impossible_Cow_7074@reddit
Whats the distance one of these can travel before the battery dies?
Old_Dependent4678@reddit
Never work in Texas. The obesity rates in America.
dacoster@reddit
Indonesia needs some of those.
Mud_Spike@reddit
Cue Fortunate Son
meuzobuga@reddit
Good bot.
cosmic_monsters_inc@reddit
Saved from waist high water?
49thDipper@reddit
Ankle deep water can knock you down
So does debris
cosmic_monsters_inc@reddit
Fair
Chairboy@reddit
It's easy for folks who don't know better to underestimate how much energy moving water contains. This is killing current for someone who isn't prepared.
Longjumping-Age753@reddit
A 9mm weighs only 10 grams. Would you take one to the chest?
cosmic_monsters_inc@reddit
If you threw it? Yeah mate, all day long.
Longjumping-Age753@reddit
W00d u m!nd 1f 1 thr0w 1t uzin a Gl0ck or B3r3tt@ @at 4oo m\2nd?
cosmic_monsters_inc@reddit
Why did you turn into l33t speak all of a sudden. If you're trying to make a clever point then it missed. The river is moving but not that fast, the kid probably can't just swim it but the guy apparently managed to get to him and have enough control to get him into a sling. Could he not have just picked the kid up and walked back the way he came?
Something skibidi rizz?
Longjumping-Age753@reddit
The reddit deleted my previous comment because I was mentioning firearms. So I had to resort to cryptic language to beat the AI.
6 years back I witnessed my classmate and childhood friend being swept away in 4 feet of mildly fast water and I had to sit there crying in the rain for hours before the rescue team found his dead body couple of kilometres downstream. So I get pissed when someone underestimates the power of flowing water and makes idiotic comments regarding to the safety of people at risk.
cosmic_monsters_inc@reddit
Fair enough
Longjumping-Age753@reddit
Would you mind if I throw it using a Glock or Beretta?
Aldiirk@reddit
Classic reddit AI shit removing a comment for referencing firearms. How long until we have to talk in babyspeak like "unalive" or "bangy-bangy"?
Longjumping-Age753@reddit
It’s even worse. I am not from western hemisphere. I know people who cannot use the actual spelling of their names or some words from their native language because it looks like something offensive in English.
Aldiirk@reddit
Sounds about right. Also, why is my comment now showing deleted?
that_dutch_dude@reddit
ukraine makes the "perun"drone, it can lift 200kg.
its already been used to airlift wounded from the front line. but also to drop 155mm shells on bunkers...
Accomplished_Lead885@reddit
Dagobah
jonnyvegashey@reddit
Damn I’m just thinking, “I wonder how high could he fly that kid up and back down, relatively safely”.
scoobynoodles@reddit
This is the type of stuff that is needed. Love this
random-tree-42@reddit
Now fetch the other ones
VikTank@reddit
Wow Bravo
Massive-Ad-2048@reddit
Wouldn’t they be bigger in Texas ?
Kids or drones /s
kageshira1010@reddit
Wouldn't that cause him generational PTSD?
Curious-Welder-6304@reddit
Sorry, I only have enough battery for one kid
Hamsterminator2@reddit
Watching this reminds me of sci-fi like Bladerunner and Terminator! I'm also asking myself if its as impressive as all that though..? I guess it's ultimately gyros, propellers and batteries like we've had a long time, only they're all way better than they used to be 30 or so years ago? Still- makes you wonder what we might be using 30 or so years from now...
-I_I@reddit
That’s amazing!
BrewCityChaserV2@reddit
Fucking AI bullshit
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Saltire_Blue@reddit
That’s amazing
_Ilobilo_@reddit
the second one lmao