You don’t actually want an ebike
Posted by funcentric@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 52 comments
Most adults looking to buy an ebike haven’t ridden a bicycle in over 20 years and think electric power will solve all their problems. There is very little conversion from cyclist to ecyclist.
I know it looks fun. I know you see everyone riding one and you want one too.
But there’s no shame in not having an ebike. Many of you will get away with riding a e-scooter and you’ll get much more value and portability there and maintenance will be more of a breeze.
Before you decide on an ebike, let alone which one, consider this:
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Storage. The ebike isn’t ridden like it is on every YouTube video you’ve seen of riders having the time of their lives. They are stored. Stored in a garage hopefully but stored nonetheless. Do you have space? Do you have access? Will you need to move it up stairs?
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E-bikes generally run on lithium ion batteries. Though much safer than scooters generally speaking because it is way too easy to start a scooter company and sell complete crap, e-bikes still are at risk for fire if the battery is of poor quality or damaged. There are very few UL rated batteries for e-bikes.
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Storage charge is a thing. 3.85v per cell or 70%. Those of you who live in cold climates likely will need to store the bike for at least a season. You cannot store it empty or full. Bad for the battery.
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Riding solo isn’t as fun. If you’ré getting the bike for yourself and don’t have anyone to ride with, just be honest with yourself how much fun you’ll really be having riding alone. I can do it but not everyone wants that.
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If you have a spouse or partner, they may end up wanting one too. Your budget just doubled. They may not be as excited in the long term and then you have two bikes to store but only use one.
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Resale value of e-bikes are terrible as you may imagine.
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The biggest regret ebike buyers have is that the bike is heavier and bigger than they expected.
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Riding a cadence sensored ebike is not as intuitive as riding a regular bike or torque sensored bike and you cannot generally ride them slow or at 0 PAS.
I ask that you consider ownership of an ebike - not just the operation of one. YouTube videos never discuss that but it’s a real thing. It’s not all fun and games all of the time.
I’m not trying to talk you out of buying an ebike. For some of you, it’ll be great. Truly life changing. But make sure you really explore the details before coming to that conclusion.
There’s no shame in not having an ebike. Ride safe. Rest safe.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Not saying e-bikes are bad. Just saying they’re not for everyone. It seems like an attractive choice but the reality is that there are a lot of people who get into the hype and end up not really riding it as much as they thought they would’ve.
There are also tons of issues not generally discussed revolving around OWNERSHIP of an ebike. Riding is literally 10% of it. The rest of the time, the bike is not being ridden. Yet so many YouTube videos prioritize the ride. No discussion of maintenance, storage, transporting, etc.
born1999chica@reddit
Was looking at cheap conversion kits a few months ago because the branded stuff is insanely expensive. Ended up going down a rabbit hole about battery safety and honestly changed my mind completely.
The bikes themselves aren’t really the issue, it’s the random batteries/chargers people buy from sketchy sellers to save money. Some of the footage of fires is crazy.
This breakdown was actually one of the more balanced explanations I found because it doesn’t just go “e-bikes bad”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ag9wkef0Zk
Made me way more careful about buying secondhand too.
Bleaned_Weined9726@reddit
Yeah buddy definitely got scammed my e-bike is wicked cool
Vast_Cantaloupe_1396@reddit
Everything that the OP said is accurate and can be downsides of Ebikes.
But the upside is that my ebike that only cost me $900 for the bike extra battery and handle bar accessories and a bunch of goodies gets me to work 6 days a week round trip on a single charge. I save stupid amount of money on gas every single day. The only repair I have had to make is literally brake pads costing me maybe $30 total a year. Bike tires after closer to 2k than 1k miles are still in phenominal shape. I ride it in all weather year round because i just put a coat on in the winter. oh and when i hit traffic? I just hop on the side walk and go in cross walks then back on the road when i pass the light, because well, in my state thats legal.
Physical_Delivery853@reddit
Ding Ding Ding. Ain't no way I'm spending 2-4k on something that has steal me written all over it. Theifs know what's what & what to steal.. I have two, a E bike that I spent $700 on, & a cargo bike that I upgraded to 52v from 36v with two 40Ah batteries so I should be able to go 150 miles to do door dash with. I haven't bought gas in 3 months :).
Shinesunflower851@reddit
Are these wheels and tire original? Cause the tires look a little different than the rad power site. Thank you.
Shinesunflower851@reddit
Hi everybody,
Does anybody know how much these worth and the year of this bike?
Wilddog73@reddit
When I got an E-bike, I had a very specific purpose in mind and I did a lot research on features and laws surrounding them. I wanted to ride it to work with the motor so I wouldn't get sweaty, and then manually pedal home for exercise. I didn't care how long it took on the way back.
Secondly, I got an E-bike that could fold in half and fit in the back of my car.
Fluidfondant916@reddit
What bike did you get? I'm interested in a bike with the same reasoning except I would like to evoke to work and drop a kid off then get sweaty home.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Awesome! Sounds like it was a good fit and works into your life quite well.
lunkdjedi@reddit
Wish I had more hands, so I can give this post, four thumbs down. 👎
unseenmover@reddit
I hear your 4 thumbs and raise you one more
TurbulentIssue1941@reddit
Yeah, I hadn't ridden a bike in 20 years and now (after 5 years on my ebike) I not only ebike but also mountain bike. Throw my kid on the back, bike almost exclusively by myself (or with my kid) and experience so much joy!
Gateway to awesome!
unseenmover@reddit
i demod a RISE after riding a ripmo for a few yrs and that was it. Then i bought another SUV type for commuting and all.
ParkerGuitarGuy@reddit
Yeah, I was grinding my feet on his couch.
RadroverUpgrade@reddit
(9) the dodgy ebike "companies",
(10) completely falsified specifications,|
(11) nonsensical regs,
(12) non-existent warranties,
(13) rampart theft,
(14) expensive locks,
(15) fried controllers, failed batteries, overheated motors, broken chains, shredded cassettes,
bicycle brakes trying to stop a 100lb tank...
Ok_Cancel_391@reddit
yo wtf are we supposed to use atp?
ZenobianWolf@reddit
This should be 1-10, you're much better than OP at this.
chaosandclothes@reddit
I get where you’re coming from, but I think it’s all about how you use it. For me, it’s not about “riding for fun,” it’s a tool to get to work and the grocery store without dealing with parking or gas prices. Yeah, it’s heavy, and storing it is a pain, but the trade-off for never sitting in traffic again is worth it. I will say, though, your point about the resale value is 100% correct. I’ll probably bury mine in the backyard when it dies.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
There's nothing wrong with it not having resale value. It is what it is. My goal for the article is for people to know and acknowledge the topics and if they still go for an ebike, more power to them. I'm not trying to convince people out of an ebike. Just that I think there's way more enthusiasm for them than it deserves.
I also wrote an article recently about how escooters are likely a better candidate for many people in the market for an ebike. It gets rid of most of the challenges with ebikes but with limited range of 20mi and limited speed of 20mph. People think they need to go much faster than they really do.
Ilove2readnwrite@reddit
I believe mid-drive designs tend to balance the weight better, but they’re still heavier than a regular bike. Curious if anyone has found a lightweight model that feels close to a traditional ride?
Vilelam@reddit
Here you can find more e-bikes: https://biciletas-eletricas.pt/
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Sketchy URL. No thanks. Not touching that.
chainreaction25@reddit
My wife and I live full-time.in our rv. I think this will be a great way to not drive the F250 with washboard suspension. We've got a decent solar system, with minor expansion, I think we'll be able to charge them with solar / battery bank.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Makes sense for your unique situation.
Gr7043-tlegz@reddit
I am looking to buy an ebike and I appreciate any advice, warnings.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
I see your points but there are people who are looking for more affordability, portability who by default had looked at e-bikes without ever considering a scooter which in some cases would suit them better.
If we are looking at efficiency and best of almost everything taking zero consideration for each individual buyer’s unique needs, then an electric unicycle would be the winner. But that’s not the case. People have different tolerances levels, expertise, expectations, needs for cargo, etc.
So while an electric unicycle may be the most efficient of all PEV’s, easier to keep up with traffic portable and well priced too, not everyone wants to gear up nor does everyone trust self balancing technology.
So the point is that this arwticlenisnr meant to steer people to or from anything but rather for consumers to think more strongly about the various topics so they can find the best match.
I own and ride all the major PEV’s and each has their use case. One doesn’t surpass the other in all aspects. It’s not a question of which ride is the most superior. It’s about which one aligns with the buyer the most.
Slanging_@reddit
ok which one of you hurt OP?
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Majority.
ZenobianWolf@reddit
I have a garage.
I bought a 5000$ Trek bike, all quality parts. Including Battery, yes there is still a risk, but I am pretty sure the washing/drying machine in the garage is more of a risk than the ebike battery. ( or the hot water tanks, or the work bench with a bunch of electric tools ...
I charge the bike until full befoore the winter, I dont see how a half or empty battery is better.
Riding Solo is the most fun I could ever have on an ebike,
I wish they would, while I love riding solo, and hate riding with strangers, I wouldnt mind just 1 or two family members/lovers/best friends joining me. People I know and am familiar with.
I suck at selling stuff period. I was never gonna resell the ebike , and why would I want to, I am gonna be using it until its nothing but metal crumbs and dust.
Okay, this one I can agree with, but for me personally I love it. It's better exercise, I can bike my 70 pound bike with out the motor meanwhile other people cant even bike with the motor off on a 30 pound ebike. Am I that strong or are they just that weak?
No idea what this is really, I never used a torque sensor or cadence sensor. I just go by feels.
There were so many things you could have brought up but chose to bring up the worst possible arguments.
You never mentioned the wrecklessness or dangers of an Ebike ( aside for the battery).
You never mentioned the legal restraints or consequences of riding an inappropriately classified ebike.
You never mentioned any thing that would actually make people think twice about the hobby.
Inciteful_Analysis@reddit
He actually is correct on storing batteries with half a charge. You don't want to leave it at a full charge or empty. It was probably the most useful tip of the entire post. Plenty of sources will confirm this with quick search.
Inciteful_Analysis@reddit
Many of these arguments apply to more than just ebikes. Resale value impacts cars, e-scooters, and almost anything else. But because e-scooters occupy a lower price range, the depreciation will be less if measured in absolute dollars. Riding an e-scooter solo isn't inherently any more fun than riding an ebike solo. E-scooters run on lithium batteries too, both are at risk of fire from poorly made batteries. However, almost every reputable ebike brand uses UL certified batteries now. They are not rare or hard to obtain.
E-scooters are smaller, lighter, cheaper, easier to store, and easier to transport. Potentially they can be more comfortable if they have a seat because there is a wide platform for your feet.
Some areas ban E-scooters from sidewalks, as well as impose more restrictive age limits and speed limits than they do for class 1/2 ebikes. An ebike can do anything an e-scooter can do, the reverse is not true. E-bikes are also safer than e-scooters. They have larger tires, full width handlebars, better brakes, a seat and pedals for stability, are less prone to tip over when hitting obstructions, offer vastly better directional stability, and support panic braking much better.
For many adults, e-scooters pose a significantly higher risk of injury.
BodSmith54321@reddit
This guy is posting a lot of these threads lately. I think it’s chat gpt or similar.
ZenobianWolf@reddit
while I dont agree with any of OPs points, I too ran through it an AI checker, and it said 0% AI
so I dont think ai checkers are very reliable, besides, who checks the checker and make sure that it isnt AI?
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Also AI doesn’t respond to comments here.
Urika86@reddit
That's exactly what an AI would say /s
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Haha.
BodSmith54321@reddit
No Ai writes posts for humans. This took me 20 seconds to generate.
You Don’t Actually Want an E-Bike
E-bikes are everywhere these days—on trails, in cities, and lining up outside bike shops. At first glance, they seem like the perfect upgrade: faster, easier, and a little bit futuristic. But before you convince yourself that you need one, stop and consider this—you probably don’t actually want an e-bike. Here’s why:
Storage is a Real Problem E-bikes are big and bulky. If you don’t have a garage or spacious shed, storing one becomes a hassle. You can’t just tuck it in a hallway or lean it against a wall like a regular bike. And good luck fitting it inside your apartment without it becoming a tripping hazard. Battery Safety Is a Growing Concern Lithium-ion batteries, which power most e-bikes, can overheat and even catch fire under the wrong conditions. Stories of battery fires, especially in urban areas, are becoming more common. You’re not just storing a bike—you’re storing a potential fire hazard. You Have to Worry About How You Store the Battery You can’t leave your e-bike battery in the cold or extreme heat. You shouldn’t store it fully charged or completely drained either. That means you’ll be babysitting your battery when it’s not in use. Do you really want to manage that kind of responsibility? You’ll End Up Riding Solo Once you’re cruising effortlessly at 20+ mph, riding with friends or family on regular bikes becomes frustrating for everyone. You either slow down to match their pace or leave them behind. Either way, what was supposed to be a shared activity becomes a solo experience. Your Wife Will Want One Too That "just for you" purchase? It won’t stay that way. Once your wife sees how fun and effortless your rides are, she’ll want one. And then you’re not buying one e-bike—you’re buying two. Plus two chargers. Plus double the storage headache. E-Bike Resale Value Is Disappointing E-bikes depreciate fast—especially when the battery starts to wear out. And used e-bikes with older tech or reduced range are much harder to sell than traditional bikes. Don’t count on recovering much of your investment if you change your mind. They’re Heavy and Inconvenient Most e-bikes weigh between 40 and 70 pounds. That’s fine when the motor’s working, but if the battery dies or you need to carry it up stairs, across a train platform, or into your car, you’re going to regret that weight real fast. Too Big for Tight Spaces E-bikes aren’t just heavy—they’re large. Their wide handlebars, thick frames, and oversized tires make them awkward to park, move through doorways, or fit into public transportation racks. Everything becomes a bit more complicated. Cadence Sensors Can Feel Robotic Most affordable e-bikes use cadence sensors, which simply detect that you’re pedaling—not how hard. The result? Sudden bursts of power that feel jerky or unnatural. It’s less like riding a bike and more like riding a machine that’s trying to guess what you want. You Lose the Joy of Real Biking Part of the magic of cycling is the simplicity: two wheels, your legs, and the road. E-bikes complicate that. Suddenly, you’re worrying about charging, weight distribution, sensor modes, and motor noise. You’re no longer just riding—you’re managing a device. Conclusion
Sure, e-bikes can be fun, convenient, and even useful—for the right person. But that person might not be you. When you add up the hidden costs, the maintenance headaches, the safety concerns, and the lifestyle compromises, you might find that what you really want isn't an e-bike at all. What you want is something lighter, simpler, safer, and more enjoyable: a regular bike—or perhaps just the freedom not to overcomplicate your ride.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Not sure why you proving you know how to use AI helps anyone.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
I guess AI is wrong. I hand typed all that myself in China on my vacation from my iPhone 13 mini.
BodSmith54321@reddit
Deny it all you want, but points make too little sense for a person to have put thought into it.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
Haha. Keep telling yourself that. But don’t worry. This article clearly wasn’t for you. Others will benefit from it.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
The point is to discuss logistics so people are aware and can make their own decisions.
As for storage charge, you ought to look that up, or not. Your choice but don’t come back complaining about your battery using the charging methods you are currently using. Sounds like you have a bit to learn about lithium ion batteries.
All e-bikes have either a torque sensor, cadence sensor or both. Since you said you weren’t aware, you may want to view this video I made to become aware. Always good to know what you own.
https://youtu.be/hYVOXzqTl1Q?si=QYYlX6aufkQmOI28
Ok-Carpenter-8455@reddit
Shameless self-promotion. Mods delete this thread please.
DalinsiaValkyrPrime@reddit
As an electric scooter rider, a few things.
Some of these scooters are also big as hell. We wanna talk about scooters, talk about all of them. From the Segway E2s to the WEPED Sonic S. My own scooters aren’t small and take up some pretty decent space, but it ain’t WEPED sized. Nami Burn E-2 Max is like about twice as big as my biggest scooter just eyeballing it.
Some people don’t intend to resell. Some people want to keep it for as long as they can, maybe even till death.
The battery stuff is the same for all PEVs.
Maybe because I prefer being single I don’t get the spouse part too much, but (not trying to sound rude here) they can also set their own budget and obtain their own scooter, bike, unicycle, or whatever themselves. On top of that, riding solo is honestly more fun than being in a group.
funcentric@reddit (OP)
I enjoy riding solo too. No judgement. Just want new buyers to be aware of different topics so they can make a decision. Not necessarily to steer them away.
Yes, scooters have come a long way since 8 years ago. I have my own opinions about where it’s headed but in relevance to this post, there’s definitely ones available that are more capable than in the past where they would be less of an option. I’m thinking of hill climbing.
ParkerGuitarGuy@reddit
This might be the strangest form of prejudice yet. I’m guessing OP sees one or two people they believe are rushing into buying an ebike without research and suddenly this is the majority of would-be ebike consumers. Rather than just sit this one person down and talk, this is an epidemic that must be publicly addressed.
Vyce223@reddit
You have to store a normal bike too, not exclusive to an Ebike
That's why we always recommend around here buying from reputable vendors with track records not Temu specials.
This is irrelevant for 90% of people in the same way it is for EV owners. Most very much neglect the "optimal" charge ranges. As for cold weather yes reduced range might be an issue but that's why you have two legs to get home the last stretch if needed.
Just as fun as riding solo with a regular bike?
Regular bikes can be as expensive, honestly if not more expensive than some Ebikes can get up to. If you need two of anything it'd going to double your cost, again not exclusive to ebikes.
Big true that I will agree with.
Maybe buyers who didn't research what they were buying? Every vendor gives the weight and dimensions.
True, but get a torque if you want a "bike" feeling ebike. Get a Cadence sensor if you want less of a bike feel.
Yuck_Few@reddit
Character-Way4827@reddit
You really aren't living up to your username.
CIAntKidding@reddit
It’s 5:43am for me. I’m awake because I have the flu and even my brain isn’t as hazy as OP’s lol. OP idk what you’re on I absolutely love solo riding through some of the canyon bike paths near me so point 4. of your manifesto is just whack.
International_Tax642@reddit
Stop refusing to take ur meds