How can I prove my company has a listening device?
Posted by blue_Marlin_34@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 148 comments
Posted by blue_Marlin_34@reddit | Truckers | View on Reddit | 148 comments
Hypnowolfproductions@reddit
First check app permissions on company apps. Second the eld device might have ability. Start with a company app. If installed check permissions.
If you have 2 devices and I think all Truckers need 2 devices. Turn off the device with app while using the other device. Also monitor app usage of data as that'll tell you. As to on board end all you can do is run loud obnoxious music near the mcrophone. Get a small device with bass and run it near the end device below the hearing you need but near anything looking like a microphone on said tablet or Qualcomm. Both have microphone ports. You could just run a vibrating device near it also.
But if outside the truck it's more likely the company app. But to prove it. Set them up. Say you heard so and so is going to start doing pranks like liquid ass on door handles soon. Make sure to wipe all handles before using them. Then do that visibly near dispatch. You need say it'll be a prank of course and not you doing it.
Ad to the routing your eld is the narcissist or the truck itself is. Both give real time data and can flag you for routes.
Again start with company app permissions. Then if microphone enabled please disable it.
Good luck.
cassiuscjohnson@reddit
Don’t know for sure if it will work, and I’m not familiar with the cab of a truck. However if you’re able to take or turn off anything that transmits radio signal switch to an empty am station and listen for a “pulse” you’ll have to do this first with a vehicle that you know isn’t eavesdropping.
If the gps is constant you’ll pick that up and won’t know unless you can hear 2 pulses. Hope you get it sorted man.
BaseballDue9043@reddit
Just talk about a lot lizard that you murdered and buried in your back yard. See if the cops show up at your house with a shovel! 🤣
ShortCurlies@reddit
Heres my question: In Maryland it is a two party state so both parties have to agree to any recordings so how do they get around that law? Several states are just like that as well. Is it a business thing or a trucking specific thing or what?
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
BINGO!!!😂
SmellsLikeASteak@reddit
This is an especially good idea if you are looking to plant a garden.
Uneventfulrice@reddit
I would email myself a message saying "Going to talk mad shit in my truck in hopes of proving microphone theory true or false" Before so I could show it to the officers once they got there that I was just foolin' lol
mikeblas@reddit
Yeah, that kind of proof is totally unassailable. ^s
BaseballDue9043@reddit
Good point, no telling what is actually buried in your backyard! 😳 CYA lol
Arth3r911@reddit
Lmao
adventure_dog@reddit
if its got a dash cam they can listen in theres a big thread about it.
they can all have the ability tolisten to the driver.
company settings may vary.
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
These handbook says they have no microphones in their fleet. That’s why I’m like hmmm
ooglieguy0211@reddit
It probably says that because they did not install a microphone in the truck to listen to you. It's a shitty way of saying, "We didn't install a microphone... But the dashcam has one built into it... We just didn't take the time to disable it specifically."
As a 20-year veteran truck driver who drove for a government agency for most of that time, they are listening. Now I'm working for another government agency in transportation but not a driver all the time, I'm in charge of the video monitoring for passenger carrying vehicles, which includes a dashcam with driver facing cam, and several other cameras inside the passenger compartment and outside the vehicle. All of those cameras have microphones built in, and the system records them with the video. My specific department doesn't care about what anyone is saying on the video, but whomever requests and gets a video pull approved, might.
Obviously, that type of thing varies by company, but it is most definitely how they know what you're saying without having to install a stand-alone mic specifically. They also have alerts they can set to know if you took a certain route or a geofence for when you are in an area they dont want you. Some systems just send an alert to the company, and some will save and send videos along with the alert. It depends on which system they are using. All the dashcam systems have a built-in GPS to them.
ShortCurlies@reddit
It doesn't matter what it says or what they tell you the cameras have mikes and they are listening it isnt illegal for them to do it and it isnt illegal for them to lie to you about it.
adventure_dog@reddit
I spent the time researching all the dash cam companies and writing up a thread about it.
they can all live stream and listen in, some large companies do turn off options like audio but often the small like to eaves drop.
its a common complaint
okron1k@reddit
Honestly think it’s just paranoia. Nobody has time to just sit there and listen to hours and hours and hours of your audio just to see if you say something. It’s likely just a coincidence that some of these things are happening at the same time. They do probably have the truck gps tracked and can see where you drive. You may not be doing as good of a job at cheating your logs as you think you are and they noticed it.
Kershaws_Tasty_Ruben@reddit
You’d be surprised how many people have the time to be nosy. I worked with someone who called his dispatcher a cunt while talking to himself alone in the cab. He was subsequently fired for calling his dispatcher a cunt.
Thepopethroway@reddit
No I'm sure dispatch who does nothing but sit around a private office (without a camera) all day would never engage in voyeurism. Especially against people they dislike or women they find attractive.
ShortCurlies@reddit
The Jeffrey Toobin effect!
ShortCurlies@reddit
I called my dispatchers and the company every filthy thing you could think of and spoke directly to the camera knowing they could hear me, telling them I knew, and cussed them a blue streak even talking about their mothers and their sex life with animals. I wanted them to listen and meet me in the parking lot ready to go when I got back. Nothing. But I also know that Im a union employee and they cant use cameras or microphones for discipline infractions so tough shit for them; fuckem. The funny thing is if I said anything like that in front of them it would be insubordination and a termination offense but then you go before the board and you get a second chance you cant be fired for a first offense unless its overt like wrecking the truck, stealing or fighting.
OSRSgamerkid@reddit
Wait till they tell OP about the implats they installed inside of hom.
Defiant_Network_3069@reddit
If the company has driver facing cameras just assume they also have microphones.
Also the ELD tablets have cameras and microphones too. They're just an oversized cellphone.
mehow29@reddit
I put electrical tape on my ELD camera and microphone, just in case lol.
ShortCurlies@reddit
Smudge a bugger on them before you turn them on.
lbodyslamrhinos@reddit
I worked in the place of fleet manager for the better part of 2 years. Each driver had a front/rear camera with microphones. Everyone was told that we don't watch and don't listen, it's strictly for accidents/emergencies. That was a straight up lie. It would take about 3-4 seconds for me to sync up with any drivers camera and I could watch. All the managers did it, they all talked about it. Since then, I've driven for 0 companies with cameras and I'll never manage again.
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
My last company was straight up as soon as we got hired they they had audio so for the most part it was a silent ride with headphones on lol but this was straight up says they don’t
ShortCurlies@reddit
They do listen and lying to you about it isnt illegal and they specifically dont tell you so you will think they arent listening and talk openly tell on yourself. Dont be naive.
Cannedparadise88@reddit
Are you Edward Snowden?
Helpful_Finger_4854@reddit
Nope, just Buddy Boredom.
Mysterious_Time8042@reddit
If you have a driver facing camera I always assume those motherfuckers have audio. Even if they say “They have a microphone but we disabled it” yeah bulllllshit. I have had this EXACT similar thing happen to me a few weeks ago. I was bitching to a coworker (this truck is just a regular company pickup) about a dude that works in our office about a very specific issue from a month ago and we get out of the truck for lunch and not 10 minutes later I get an email from this dickhead about the exact thing we were talking about, but my crewlead swears they have no audio, but of course I figure out the office dillweed is the one that reviews camera footage for infractions.
Those cameras have audio and I’ll die on this hill.
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
Only outward facing but maybe. Still even it’s on their handbook states “ NO MICROPHONE IN OUR FLEETS”
nastyzoot@reddit
So what? Unless it's in a union contract they can ignore what's in a handbook they wrote themselves.
ShortCurlies@reddit
This 100%
Turbulent-Pay1150@reddit
We reserve the right to change anything at anytime for any reason, or no reason at all.
TouchMyBoomstick@reddit
Depends on the dashcam. I know a company I worked at before I went O/O swore up and down they didn’t have audio but the office workers just so happened to know information I’ve only ever bitched about to people that don’t work there.
Migistat@reddit
I’d say test your theory with something they wouldn’t know unless they heard it. Maybe talk to your friend about having trouble sleeping and see if they try and pull you for a sleep study or something. If they’re breaching not only policy but the law (in some states both parties must be aware of recordings) then yes, you should be able to file suit as long as you have evidence.
Responsible_CDN_Duck@reddit
That camera reports your position, and takes video of where you drive....
It also tracks distances.
No need to hear anything to address your reasons for being audio recorded.
L0quence@reddit
I mean they’ll see what roads you take since the truck will have gps in it for sure. And same with running logs, typically there’s someone (usually the same one who reviews footage of cams) will review logs as well and can probably tell the difference between gps switching from driving to on duty not driving mean while your logs say otherwise.
Sea_Cucumber_69_@reddit
If you know where the microphone could be, just put a static noise machine next to the mic. It will washout anything you say. Sounds simple, but it's very effective and used in classified government areas all over world.
Sacr3dangel@reddit
Not a trucking company, but the school bus company I worked for said the same thing: “we have driver facing cameras, they have a mic, but we disabled that”
Then months later an accident happened and we got to see the footage as a PSA in a mandatory meeting. They blurred the face and any other identifying markers of the bus, but not that that helped anything, everybody knew exactly who it was. But they didn’t remove the audio from the footage. You could hear everything. And while nothing ‘compromising’ was in the audio. It did compromise their promise, which was in the handbook, of having the mics turned off.
Lefoy87@reddit
Cameras or not these companies are definitely eves dropping on drivers one way or another. They all do it.
gitprizes@reddit
yes to audio, possibly hidden video but probably not, but where they are really able to get you is via your phone, especially larger companies.
for your phone to get singled out they would need a reason, but it's not at all difficult nowadays with a little bit of money (which larger companies already have invested for recovery/brand security).
essentially if there is a need (there always is) and someone's got the money and the network, there are plenty of professionals able to gain access to someone's phone. the extremely large corporations like walmart, fedex, ups etc. would already have these people on payroll. legal or not is beyond irrelevant, your phone's security can be breached a hundred different ways, especially if you're using your company's proprietary software, in fact, it is probably even vaguely indicated within the user agreement in such a way that can protect them in the event of successful attribution on your part.
you can actually download the pdf or copy/paste the user agreement to the company software and upload it to chatgpt (the free version works). ask the bot if there are any vague indications of device monitoring via the software, or what could potentially lead to a privacy breach, and what the company's policy/liability is.
chatbots are really good at reading these kinds of word-puzzle documents and delivering it to you in simple language. it works in seconds.
FilthyNasty626@reddit
You and your buddy should have a conversation about one fucking the owners wife, and the other fucking the owners daughter. What happens next should be definitive proof listening devices are installed.
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
Lmfao!
oasuke@reddit
They'll find a way to terminate you without revealing they were spying on you. It happened to someone I knew. They can easily get rid of any driver they want with those cameras because no one drives perfect all the time.
Turbulent-Pay1150@reddit
You assume that they must have cause to terminate. That's just union or un-American by definition. They can terminate you for no reason, any reason, at any time with no benefits or compensation for most people in the USA.
oasuke@reddit
They can, but then the employee can file a report at the EEOC or take legal action, which would then require the employer to prove they did not fire them for illegal reasons. Employers typically don't want to go down that rabbit hole, so they'll always have some kind of justification, regardless of how bogus it is.
Turbulent-Pay1150@reddit
That's what HR is for - to keep the company out of legal issues - and it's pretty easy to fire for no reason/any reason and not get tied up in EEOC cases. Why did you fire Oasuke? Because we decided to. (note the period and end of statement - any reason or no reason are valid reasons to support firing Oasuke and neither will run afoul of the EEOC).
LTStormchasen@reddit
My company says they don’t have driver facing cameras or mics. My first trip solo for them (during 90 day probationary period) I ran over a cola bottle in the road so pulled over emergency stop at on ramp. I heard a voice as I got back in the truck cab, “everything okay?” I replied yes. Never before had I noticed the micro tiny speakers on each inside panel of the windshield area. Needless to say, now I know there’s no privacy in this rig. My ELD is on a tablet. I cover the tablet camera with tape but the mic on tablet still works. Screw it. Let them hear me sing off key.
Savagemocha@reddit
If my company wants to hear my verbal arguments with my wife so be it.
MyOwnChemicalRomance@reddit
Both of these things seem like they could be done with just GPS tracking. Also, are cameras and microphones that common now a days? Christ they have sucked all the fun out of this job.
oasuke@reddit
Yes they're common. Out of the 6 years I've been driving, I've had 9 trucking jobs and all but one of them had cameras. The AI cameras in particular are soul destroying.
MyOwnChemicalRomance@reddit
Yeah I've been driving for almost 10 and just recently got my first camera... Only outward facing though.. I'm 35 but. I'll still go flip burgers while I put myself through trade school before I'll tolerate a camera starting at me all day. Fuck that nonsense.
No-Procedure-5616@reddit
Just tell a lie while at the phone, if they talk about it then they are listening
ajs3423@reddit
They’re spying on you for sure. Thankfully I’m local food service so I spend as much time outside of the truck and inside and that’s when I make my phone calls cuz I know for a fact I’m being spied on. Be careful
Sir_Uncle_Bill@reddit
Most trucks have GPS tracking devices these days, especially company trucks. They could have something set to tell them when you're on a road they don't want you on.
akaFxde@reddit
My companies trucks and trailers have trackers. I know our inward cams record audio. It’s just to cover their ass’s in court. They said we can’t run a certain stretch of highway that potentially goes across the entire state of PA. It’s all penny pinching and we must make as much profit as possible.
Dezzolve@reddit
If you’re talking about I-76, it’s roughly $600 in tolls for a semi truck to traverse it from end to end. Wouldn’t call that penny pinching, $600 these days is likely to be 25% or more of what the whole load pays.
errie_tholluxe@reddit
Then they should take that into account when accepting the load and make it part of the price. Fucking race to the bottom is still going on.
Dezzolve@reddit
You do negotiate the price of tolls into what the load pays.
If you can somehow squeeze an extra $600 out of a broker for tolls, and then not even take the toll road anyways, that’s just more money in your pocket.
mr_potatoface@reddit
It's almost $2/mile in tolls going I-76.
errie_tholluxe@reddit
Have been through many times, it's just a case of broker pays honestly. The freight mileage isn't enough to eat the tolls.
And given the current regime is deleting so many social safety nets I expect a lot more toll roads.
akaFxde@reddit
Oh I didn’t know it was that much
mxracer888@reddit
Ya that's the easiest answer to explain them knowing you're on a road they don't want you to be on....
As for the "fake" discussion of logs, not sure on that.
Numinak@reddit
That can be linked to the gps as well. They'll see movement times don't match up with log times.
mxracer888@reddit
Ya, I guess it's unclear from the story in the post. I just assumed they tested it by simply talking about cheating logs but not actually cheating logs. If they were cheating logs then it's easy to see GPS movement that shouldn't be there.
But if the post is true and they weren't cheating logs and simply talking about it to see if someone was listening then there's something else at play
devilinblue22@reddit
Yeah, the Two examples he used are two very prominent and easily discovered issues in trucking.
JimMarch@reddit
Assume ALL trucks and trailers are tracked.
Salt-Fee-9543@reddit
I’m local and have forward facing cameras so they can just log on my camera and see where I am. On top of that at the end of my route I have to print out a shift report for keeping track of how much bulk propane, gas, diesel, etc I delivered that day. Right at the bottom of the shift report it says attempted gps reads( usually 100+ in 8 hr shift) and then confirmed gps reads ( usually 30-40) so ya big brother is always watching and tracking me.
Capt-Kirk31@reddit
Not your truck. Not your privacy. I am sure they had you sign something to that effect
ConwayHGV@reddit
You’re just being paranoid and overthinking a few coincidences, although a dash cams will also pick up sound what you’re suggesting would require someone to be listening for the entire time you’re in truck in real time, that’s utterly absurd.
Sea_Cucumber_69_@reddit
Setup a camera in your truck and hold up a sign that says i dont do meth, than start talking about how much you love meth, like really love it and how it keeps you going. If you are drug tested the next day, contact a lawyer...but do the drug test, definitely do the drug test.
ChiDaddy123@reddit
But only if you actually dont do meth… otherwise this isn’t gonna work out cause the sign won’t negate the piss test…
Sea_Cucumber_69_@reddit
You are correct, if someone is using Texas tooth loosener, that plan is a bust.
UScratchedMyCD@reddit
Occams Razor - the most simple solution is often the correct one
So either the company can see from GPS (and probably tolls) you’re driving a road they asked you not to. And they can also see your logbooks don’t line up to your GPS
Or they’ve got recording devices not only on the inside of the truck but also on the outside that can somehow isolate just your voice over all other noise and are paying people to listen to not only you but also every other driver - and it would have to be all the time because they don’t know when you would or wouldn’t be talking to someone. So they’re paying another full time wage just to be able to make hints to you they know you’re doing stuff you shouldn’t be?
Sorry to put this to you but you’re not that important
12dv8@reddit
If there’s a face camera, it’s listening
Silent-Damage5514@reddit
They most likely are tracking the truck, especially if it's a company owned truck
Legitimate_Sir6904@reddit
Or your “buddy” ratted on you. That happens. A lot.
NoJournalist2457@reddit
Say you’re going to kill yourself. If they bring it up you know they are listening.
MostlyUseful@reddit
Dude, I worked for a company that did this. Even had one of the office girls bragging about pulling up a particular driver’s camera just to listen to what they were talking about on the phone or whatever. They had cameras with audio in the drivers lounge and outside and all around the yard. They were really bad about snooping and spying. A few of us went to the HR lady about it and she was pissed. After that, they still did it though so a bunch of us quit. Screw them
bmf1989@reddit
Even if they do, it’s pretty far fetched that someone’s just listening to/watching you at all times my dude
MatrixUserNumberJuan@reddit
Yeah invasion of privacy is unheard of in today’s world OP. Nothing to see here 👨🦯👨🦯➡️👨🦯 go back to sleep.
bmf1989@reddit
Lol, I’m not telling anybody to be cool with driver facing cameras. I’m just saying the notion that someone is watching the entirety of the footage from your cab is some tinfoil hat shit.
Thepopethroway@reddit
Ah the old "I got nothing to hide" argument.
Thepopethroway@reddit
In the Land of the Free you are required to be monitored in your domicile audibly and visibly 24/7.
It's a small price for Freedom, but it's werf it!
ud_frosty@reddit
All company trucks have gps my company has them set to a geotabbed area so when I go there it sends an alert hey storm warning or crime etc so they could do the same for themselves for restricted roads as for listening if you have any cameras the can watch them any time they say they can't but they are able to at any point ive seen it on multiple occasions with different companies hell I had one where we would shoot shit in the office and pull up cab cams to see how they were doing( local delivery job) if they needed help and such but its part of the safety I guess so 100% cam probably caught you or you just ain't that slick my guy
Heracles222@reddit
Bro, I am sorry to break the bad news…. How do I put this… your cell phone is a listening device. Your laptop, tablet, man anything attached to the internet. People hack shit you would never believe and insert a little bit of code and woh-la a new device capabilities are born. What age do you live in, why do you think technology and technological advances scare old people.
karrimycele@reddit
If your truck has a dashcam, it has a listening device. Those things record audio, too.
Nice-position-6969@reddit
The GPS will tell what roads you are taking. They can set a geofence to notify them if they want to set it for those roads they don't want you on.
As far as listening to you in the cab, it's their truck. They can do as they please. It's just like the cameras at the terminal. Until your company name is on the door you gotta deal with whatever company you work for and what they want to do with their stuff. The LTL company Saia will tell you all about cab recorders. They gotta watch what they talk about in the cab all the time.
Organic_South8865@reddit
Uh...aren't all company trucks are GPS tracked? My cousin said they had to get tracking in the trucks at his company for insurance, liability and route scheduling. Dash cams too of course.
Exciting-Car-3516@reddit
If you have a tablet with microphone and camera cover or disable them both. Very easy
ONE2THR@reddit
The easiest way to do this is bait them with a false story.
Good example for whenever you're talking to your buddy[Make sure their in on it]
Make up a story such as, "....Yeah, I took a shower, but my ass is still itchy.... So anyway, I accidentally grabbed [Easesdroppers Name] food/item and put it back where I found it, but I forgot to clorox/lysol wipe it down after scratching."
That'll do it.
Dodgegirl360@reddit
You can buy a device for less than twenty bucks off Amazon that finds hidden cameras and mics
Reddit_Is_a_jokee@reddit
Let's say they are listening do you plan on quitting?
rickybobysf@reddit
I would say some insane shit just to see if they act on it.
Like say I heard the dispatcher that no one likes is cheating on his wife with the accountant. Or I heard the top driver cooks his books and the company helps him do it.
I was on my ten hour break and had 15 lot lizards in my truck and didn't sleep a bit. Now it hurts when I pee.
morsule1@reddit
No one is going to listen to your conversation 24/7 to catch these things. Cameras create events for them to review, gps shows a summary of the routes you took so these could be reviewed, but audio? Even if they have it, they won't listen unless there is an event.
denn1959-Public_396@reddit
Well many cab have videos in them. So the cab hear you talk
YellowOne5358@reddit
my company has inward facing and records audio and they def do spy
RoseKlingel@reddit
The cameras def record audio. Was in orientation where we reviewed driver footage and we could hear the truck and what the driver was saying. What you say in the truck can absolutely be used against you, even if the company misunderstands or misinterprets.
If anyone in an office tells you otherwise they are lying or someone lied to them about it and they believed it.
OrganizationNo6167@reddit
GPS tracker bruh they watch bruh 🤣
chico-dust@reddit
All company equipment have GPS trackers on them. They don't need a listening device to tell when you're on a non company authorized route/road.
As far as cooking the books that's easy if you run ELDs because the company clearly doesn't trust you or your buddy so they pay special attention to everything you do. However you did say it was a hypothetical conversation and that you didn't actually do it (I think) so occams razor.
The most likely explanation is the most likely. That being your "buddy" is telling on you dummy.
ExpedientDemise@reddit
This is part of the reason I have the radio or some sound making device going constantly while I'm driving. I don't work for a big company, but I dont want to make it easy for anyone to hear anything.
FoxxDocter@reddit
Talk about how methed up you are and see if you get pulled in for a random the next day. Could also get a high pitch frequency device and leave it in your truck during your 34
Cannedparadise88@reddit
Hello most paranoid guy on the planet.
You're paranoia stems from nothing more than a guilty conscience . You're doing things that you know they don't want you to do and they notice it. That's all.
pathbinder@reddit
I swear, it could just be coincidence, but my wife mentioned pot or something a couple of times while up front with me and not two days later they were calling me in for a random lol
p0396@reddit
Much more likely that they are tracking your truck, so they know when you are on the wrong road. And they are monitoring your logs so they know when you are running illegally.
Either way you are a dumbass and probably about to be fired for company violations.
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
Been here about half a year and since the beginning they always calling me asking “how far out are you from the yard so we can set you up on the next load” or “how far are you from your first stop” I’ve asked around I’m not the only one they do this to so not to sure on the GPS part unless they are too lazy to check
jgremlin_@reddit
Its often quicker and easier to call you and ask your ETA than it is to log into the portal, go to the truck list, find your truck, load the position history and figure out where you are so they can figure out when you'll be getting there.
But if they want to, they can most definitely see where your truck is, where its been and exactly which route you took to get there.
So if you take a route they don't want to take, they will know without needing any kind of listening device in the truck.
Also, most ELD software will produce a report that shows them every time a driver made an edit to their logs. They can see the edit itself and what was changed and what it was before you changed it. And so can the DOT if they look at your logs. Again no listening device needed, they can see that easily on their end.
stierney49@reddit
Smart dispatchers don’t rely on GPS for actual ETAs especially in the final stretches. Drivers know the times and predict conditions better
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
Also no one said I ran illegally lol just going in and fixing for things I didn’t go off duty for stuff of that nature that I’d miss.
Siena2@reddit
There's a certain Mega carrier that does the listening part and other driver's know it. They are very heavy on surveillance for whatever reason.
Locating you and what routes you take is not surprising; that's a norm but the eavesdropping is another matter.
The mega I worked for claimed they had outward facing cameras (which they did) and claimed that they are able to see in the can but the reflection of the windshield.
I did quite a bit of driving in the dark to know that, that wasn't the case; suspected they actually had a camera that was on you, tested it out and got a phone call an hour later asking me if everything is ok.
I had the camera covered after that.
NitroBike@reddit
If they do, in certain states, it has to be explicitly stated. Certain states have two-party consent laws meaning they can’t covertly record you and use it legally without you knowing about it. Maybe internally they can use it, but if they try to fire you over something you said, and they never informed you in writing about your audio being recorded, you could fight it.
jaireworld@reddit
My company also has driver facing cameras and I always talk mad shit about my dispatcher and other office people with a buddy who has the same dispatcher. We call him Daniel the Penis Head in our calls and we have yet to get called out for it. I’m pretty sure there’s no audio on ours and if there is maybe they haven’t monitored any of our footages while we’re talking about any of the office staff.
Dramatic_Lychee583@reddit
If there's a forward facing or a driver facing camera, then there is also a microphone. And most companies will watch your social media pages.
imadestarwars@reddit
I doubt your dispatch has access to the audio and it’s more for higher ups to review if you hit g forces or are in an accident. But if you’re uneasy about being spied on, tough shit. You’re in their truck. You’re using their assets to make money. 🤷🏼♂️ Big brother is always watching my dude.
Simcan99@reddit
Sure as shit lytx drive cams have audio pickups, along with stealth recording settings. These cameras also have a stupid rudimentary A.I. to read speed limit signs inconsistently, and other infractions.
AgreeAndSubmit@reddit
This has to a shit post.
cohonan@reddit
I’m the safety guy for a trucking company, and to just clarify one point, the cab of a truck doesn’t have an expectation of privacy. It’s a workplace.
I know it feels private, but while you’re driving you’re working and it’s not private, it’s work.
Sleeper cabs make that difficult to draw the line. Our cameras only turn on while you’re driving. Also you have a curtain to pull across the sleeping area.
No-Flight5639@reddit
Never trust your co-worker. When you boil things down, you are both there because it is the end to a financial need. People will throw you to the wolves to advance themselves.
Ok_Dig5889@reddit
GPS for sure. Last company I worked for had them on everything. Trucks, trailers, had a handheld that could be tracked. Even when it's turned off I'm sure. The find my device kinda thing. Have heard some forward facing cameras have audio capabilities.
Kern4lMustard@reddit
Sounds like whoever you're talking to is a stool pigeon
Kern4lMustard@reddit
Sounds like whoever you're talking to is a stool pigeon
biotox1n@reddit
everyone focuses on the dashcam but don't forget they've got your tablet as well, usually a camera and mic in them as well.
had a company telling me not to text when driving, even though it was them I was texting to reply to them spamming me
at first i didn't think anything of it since the truck didn't have a camera hooked up except on the front bumper
but after a few weeks one of the managers said something personal they shouldn't have known anything about as I hadn't discussed it with anyone at all. that's when I realized they were 100% spying on me, poked around the tablet for installed software and found some monitoring software.
after some research I confirmed they were using the tablet. I put electrical tape on the camera and mic after that and quit shortly after.
never trust equipment that isn't yours.
ParticularArrival111@reddit
Ours definitely have audio. I swear those guys listen to me. Ill be talking to my wife and be like "wierd its x o clock and I gavnt dispatched a pickup yet. Then 10 seconds later a pick up comes through. The thing is though I know them dispatchers don't have time to be listening to all of us drivers so I've just convinced its coincidence.
Dm-me-a-gyro@reddit
More likely your buddy is talking shit
Oz_The_Explorer@reddit
Your truck tablet can listen to you and if it has a camera they can see you as well. It is the case in my company.
I don't care though... I taped the camera... And don't care if they are listening to me!!!
69trkr77@reddit
Talk with someone about "partying" to much when off. Hopefully it gets out of your system. Maybe discuss a woman you hooked up with. Insinuating that it was the wife of a "certain" person.
Lefoy87@reddit
Yes companies are eves dropping on drivers and more than likely you signed an agreement to it when you got hired.
Privacy has become extinct. I won't even do company paid health insurance
Imaginativested@reddit
More likely his buddy is a snitch
Luigi_Dagger@reddit
Start talking shit about the person you think is listening
Arth3r911@reddit
It’s not to hard to find out with a little research. Look up the camera info on google and it will tell you. And yes it is invasion of privacy but you said it yourself it’s indirect so you can’t do anything about it. Sucks I’m dealing with the same shit in my company and I’m local.
Captain_Wag@reddit
Smoke them out, my friend. Instead of saying things that are somewhat bad, start saying things that are completely unhinged. Talk about how you're sick and tired of your asshole boss, and you're gonna drive the truck directly through the terminal, killing everyone. Or if you wanna keep it a little more reasonable, you can just buy an rf detector and look around. It's probably a worthwhile investment if it gets your lawsuit going.
xDoomKitty@reddit
Have a convo with your buddy about all the hookers and drugs you do in the truck and if you get fired and arrested, then you know. 🙃
PrivatePilot9@reddit
It’s 2025, there’s Elogs, GPS baked right into most tractors (elog system aside), and often cameras, and you’re surprised your company is able to see and possibly hear what’s going on?
StalinPaidtheClouds@reddit
There's no law that says they must tell the truth. Don't assume, ever, that any company has your best interests at heart. With that said, if you were cussing them out, I'd expect they'd already be pink slipping you. Maybe keep testing some things, but avoid pissing them off anymore than you might? Idk how bad you need or want to keep this job...
Supertrucker82@reddit
Bro. They dont need a mic. Its called GPS. They can see where you are and where you been.
MDM0724@reddit
Is it possible to disassemble the dashcam and desolder the microphone? Do it on your break or something so they “can’t” record you
It’s damaging company property so i can’t recommend it, definitely illegal and a fireable offense
Genuinely curious if it’s possible though. Not that you should
Spam_Frittering@reddit
It's very possible - you don't even have to dismantle the dashcam.
oasuke@reddit
Any company that uses a camera has audio and it 100% records 24/7. A coworker I knew got fired because he was talking about wanting to kill the owner. Everything you say in that truck is recorded and they do listen.
ironseaweed@reddit
You keep saying “company policy says no microphone” dude, company policies mean jack shit these days. If it has a camera with a microphone, it’s probably on and they’re probably listening
RKK-Crimsonjade@reddit
Roads= gps. They can track you
TwoToadsKick@reddit
Invasion of privacy? You own the truck?
WeirdTruckGuy@reddit
Majority of these cameras have audio. If your company is running Samsara, they’re full of shit if they spout they have no audio recording in their trucks.
Mistermeena@reddit
So you're asking if you can sue your employer because youre breaking the rules, and the law? I'd rather you just work for a living.
As the other comment noted, its unlikely that they're listening because that would be a less efficient way to monitor you than all the other tracking they already have on your rig and logs
blue_Marlin_34@reddit (OP)
There isn’t a single rule that I’m breaking just doing stuff they don’t like us to do. No where in the handbook says we can’t do XYZ so I take advantage of it
Xveers@reddit
If your trucks have GPS tracking or the like (and in this day and age, they probably do), then that's really all they need to nail you on those issues. If they've got specific roads flagged as Do Not Use, then it's likely fairly trivial for them to get reports when a GPS'd unit uses them. Playing games with your logs is another thing they can match against... If they're calling you in on this then they're likely doing it as a "soft" warning. Nothing official, nothing explicit, but a kind of "heads up, we see you there" kind of a thing.
It's also likely they're working to build up a list of policy violations, logging it down so if they have to go down that road, it won't just be a case of "get out" but "you violated policy X on date A, B, C, and D. You violated policy Y on dates 2, 15, and 21" so that they've got their asses covered.
beavismorpheus@reddit
Also if you have an app specific to your company on your device, when you enable permissions they have a back door to always listen and know your location on your days off.
MOVEOVERSCRUB@reddit
If you have a camera inside it has to be that most likely, they pick up audio as well