No energy to argue | TheaterFire

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Formal-Perspective91@reddit

Agree. The “sport” of debate is lost on me. People just dig in when their opinions are challenged. There’s really no point in arguing or debating or whatever you want to call it. Most of the time people see it as an invitation to “own” me or something equally as immature. Fine. You want to do that thing that will bite you in the ass. Go for it.

Just don’t expect sympathy from me or some sort of charitable “good will” gesture. Live with your own repercussions. I don’t have the band-width.

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Alh840001@reddit

Digging in when opinions are challenged has nothing to do with a debate. I have zero interest in engaging with that.

I love when I can find someone that is willing to have a real discussion even when we don't agree. They are so rare.

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Formal-Perspective91@reddit

What part of I don’t care about your opinion is confusing?

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snarf_the_brave@reddit

I don't argue anymore. Facts? You can find somebody, somewhere that will tell you what you want to believe and have "sources" to back them up. Even if the sources are made up and the facts fly in the face of all that is right and holy. Opinions? We're just making crap up nowadays. Tell me whatever you want to tell me, and here's the line I'll give you. And, yes, I stole the last half of it from Tommy Lee Jones.

"If it makes you happy to think that, then think me up a chocolate donut with some of those little sprinkles on top while you're thinking."

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Relevant-Package-928@reddit

It feels nice to not care about stuff like that. Sometimes, I don't even offer my own opinion. It's lovely.

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DorktorJones@reddit

I pride myself on the fact that my casual aquintances (neighbors, co-workers, etc.) have no idea what my stance is on politics, religion, or any other devisive topic.

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Dramatic-Secret937@reddit

I'd rather be happy than right. It's a waste of time and energy to explain (or attempt to help) when it's not welcomed.

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Aromatic_Garbage_390@reddit

The generation of "whatever"

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kellzone@reddit

Has anyone else typed out a comment on reddit and then deleted it because you know there's going to be a few people that will reply and argue, and you don't feel like doing that so you just cancel the comment and not post it?

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SmartNotRude@reddit

Yep. Did that this morning.

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two_awesome_dogs@reddit

A million ti….

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ogbellaluna@reddit

i think it’s a sort of just not worth it to reply to certain arguments/comments.

i don’t only do this on reddit; i do it in other apps, and even texts. sometimes, it’s just not worth it.

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AwardSalt4957@reddit

So many times! I’ve even typed out multiple paragraphs of coherent, well-thought-out responses to someone’s ridiculous, asinine post. And then I’ll just delete it before posting because I realize that the idiot is never even going to understand what I’m saying much less have a reasonable response.

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newlife_substance847@reddit

Same here.

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kellzone@reddit

Same here. I had just done exactly that in a different sub a little before I made that comment.

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newlife_substance847@reddit

I've actually sent it but then turned off the updates on the thread because I'm not trying to deal with all the BS.

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Chief7064@reddit

Sure, especially if you are conservative or christian.

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labontefan69@reddit

Sure have!

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Valuable_One_1011@reddit

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n00dl3s54@reddit

More times than I care to count. Shit. This was one of them…..

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Winking-Cyclops@reddit

Isn’t this emblematic of Gen X?
It seems like the online version of just shrugging, saying “whatever” and walking away?

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Consistent_Club4903@reddit

All the time.

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The_Ghost_of_Us@reddit

So, so many times every day.

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bkrich83@reddit

Absolutely. More than a few times.

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Freepi@reddit

If my response isn’t either fun/funny or a direct response to a question, I probably won’t post it. I try to keep my Reddit as light, friendly, and helpful as possible. I fail at times, but that’s my goal.

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hi-jump@reddit

Almost did it to this one. I made an exception given the topic.

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Moist_Rule9623@reddit

It’s traditional to mutter to yourself “…oh what’s the use…” while deleting the post, and yes I do this at least 5 times a week

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Fatscot@reddit

Three times this weekend

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BuckyRainbowCat@reddit

Yup!

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newlife_substance847@reddit

The ironic part of it is that I used to be really good at debating. My parents always thought that I'd be a good lawyer. I think I've just decided that I'm giving up on humanity as a whole. These idiots are gonna do what they're gonna do. I give them one chance at gaining some knowledge and if they don't catch it.... that's on them. Accept your fate as I have mine.

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NihilsitcTruth@reddit

I just say we agree to disagree.

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labontefan69@reddit

I need to be better at this!

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Cjkgh@reddit

49 and I’m there. After 5 months of proving valid facts and outrage and bewilderment at the apathy and lack of empathy I see everywhere, as well as within my own family and friends. I am simply wanting to start isolating at this point.

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Glittering_Quit_7382@reddit

I think this reaction comes natural to Gen X. We are sonused to being disregarded and ignored that it is just easier to walk away or delete

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Hey-buuuddy@reddit

It’s just wisdom telling you it’s futile to argue over most issues.

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Bright_Pomelo_8561@reddit

Do you wanna be right or do you wanna be happy? At this point life I’m choosing happy I don’t give a shit about being right.

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Accomplished_Ad2599@reddit

It's the same with me; it's just not worth the energy to "argue or debate" anymore. I typically just note their ignorance in my head and move on.

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Southtxranching@reddit (OP)

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Weird-Ninja8827@reddit

I take the Keanu off ramp whenever something looks like it is going to become a useless argument with someone I don't even know. "You know what? You may be right. Have a nice day."

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BakeSoggy@reddit

I would love to be able to do this. But I still care way too much about what other people think. Plus, I assume I'm the one who's full of shit most of the time.

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TheRealBlueJade@reddit

Live and let live. People get to believe whatever they want to believe. It is not our job to teach them.

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wubrotherno1@reddit

Arguing isn’t going to change anyones opinion. Literally pointless.

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satyrday12@reddit

I disag...ah, fuck it.

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Izmeralda@reddit

Yep. My go-to response when they argue is "ok" if I think "whatever" would seem rude. But that's what I really mean. Whatever.

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ONROSREPUS@reddit

Weird the older I get the more I like to argue. Just for something to do. lol.

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Pittskid@reddit

Exact same. Just turned 53 and you can't fix stupid.

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Cultural-Voice423@reddit

Funny, I’m 51 and was thinking this very same thing last night. I even prayed asking for healing and removal of hate and bitterness because I’m done with it. Like the song, live and let live. At 50+, we’re on the back 9 and should live like it.

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ru-serious@reddit

I'm not sure Gen X, especially the older of us, cared that much to begin with. I've said what I thought loudly when I was less than 30 and then followed it up with "oh whatever" pretty quickly.

Now at 56, I really don't care. I don't even argue with millennials and they've got some stuff way messed up that we didn't teach them. Just "whatever".

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-forbiddenkitty-@reddit

Especially online. It's just too exhausting to try to explain over text why someone is an idiot.

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Carrera_996@reddit

It's therapeutic to me. I like to touch on all the various points. In what way, they were an idiot. The time duration. The many ways they could have chosen to not be an idiot. The possible consequences for the idiot, specifically. I like to work in as much profanity as possible, too. Sometimes, when I run out of English profanity, I switch to Spanish, Bisaya, or if you really fucked up, you hear about in Deutsche. Special thanks to the BMW factory workers for those words.

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CharleyLH@reddit

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puskunk@reddit

Fuck the car mill.

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FabAmy@reddit

And, you'll never change their mind.

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Glittering-Eye2856@reddit

Yup. After 57 years I’m tired of banging my head against the wall to make my point. Take it or leave it, no biggie. If the consequences of your choice suck, well, I tried. 🤷‍♀️

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Zealousideal-Help594@reddit

God, I wish I could do that. Would save me so much stress and anxiety, but when people are stupid, I just have this deep need to educate them. If I could just "Gibbs" them and walk away, my BP would probably be much lower.

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Azerafael@reddit

Heck i was there by my early 30s. I swear i could tell someone the sky is blue outside and they would disagree.

After awhile, i generally don't even bother to say anything unless i know the other person's going to risk physical injury. And even then i would just go with, "i think you're gonna get hurt if you do that" and then forget about it.

Yeah, whatever, you show em how its done tiger.

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d_lbrs@reddit

I learned this in my teens. My brother would argue with a stump.

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Inner-Management-110@reddit

This is exactly why I've culled everyone except my wife. We are both done with the drama folks seem to live for.

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CBus660R@reddit

For the most part, I stopped arguing back in my late 20's outside of specific scenarios. If it's work related and I'm confident in my knowledge, I do fight for my position. Or if it's a "campfire" debate with close friends for fun.

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punktualPorcupine@reddit

For me it’s less of an energy thing and it’s more that “this argument isn’t worth having”.

I see where it is going, it’s not going to be constructive, they’re set in their ways and never going to listen so what’s the point.

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MzunguMjinga@reddit

Adam Savage had some good advise on his YouTube channel, and I paraphrase, "At some point I learned that I didn't have that argue with Jaime and that the world would figure it out for him."

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MaddMango68@reddit

56m here, I do the same. Some are finally learning when I use phrases such as "not a good idea" or, "No, I'd rather..." I have my reasons thought out, either learned from experience or of other factors. So when they don't question me further on Why, or simply ignore the opinion I was asked for, my reply is Whatever.

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Fatscot@reddit

I told a senior exec last week “I have been doing this for X years, believe me or don’t believe me. I know I am right”

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zmon65@reddit

No joking, I’m 53, and said this to someone last night. I really don’t care to argue anymore

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YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT@reddit

No fucks to give.

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icedragon71@reddit

Let me sing you the song of our people.

https://youtu.be/TXK03FHVsHk?si=EDuQvZhzmh0bw95l

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EverrreyDayisGahood@reddit

😂😂😂

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zombie_overlord@reddit

This song seems to fit the sentiment

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empericisttilldeath@reddit

Not caring when everything goes to hell is called "despair".

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Live-Blacksmith-1402@reddit

Gaze upon my garden of fucks to give. Notice how barren my garden is!

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Xyzzydude@reddit

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anx1etyhangover@reddit

Classic

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EverrreyDayisGahood@reddit

https://i.redd.it/dclozacnbfbf1.gif

Agreed . I need to conserve my energy towards things that really matter .

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DangerKitty555@reddit

I’m 45 and just stopped explaining myself 🙂

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DoubleDrummer@reddit

I have spent many a year arguing on many topics.
Most people don’t want to change their minds.
I still talk with people that are interested, but I don’t argue.

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Both-Mango1@reddit

people are so easily offended nowadays. im just like whatever, dude. I got a notification from reddit that a pearl clutcher got offended about something i posted, and i told the mods I don't care. it's how i feel.

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justisme333@reddit

That's GenX in a nutshell.

Shrug. Whatever.

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PsychologicalTry892@reddit

Preach. Im adhd and 53....barely have time to process my own thoughts let alone explain to someone with have the distance on this road.

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Sanjomo@reddit

Oh man… I’m 52 and I’m just getting there! I’m so exhausted with trying… but that dog in me still wants to bark every now and again.

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LordHeretic@reddit

On top of this, I tell people exactly what I think about them. I don't have many friends, but the ones I have are real. Taught my kids to work their wage, fuck the military, and collapse capital. So far, so good.

Hey Boomer, remember when you told me I didn't have a choice, and to get over it? Fuck you now, buddy. Enjoy your 'retirement' in the third world shithole you left us.

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International_Car902@reddit

48 and have always been brutally honest. But at this point have to be careful how I react life in prison don't scare me anymore. 0 fu**KS left to give.

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Myeloman@reddit

Wait another year, you won’t even care to give your opinion any more.

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EPCreep@reddit

Yup. gotta choose your battles carefully.

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WordleFan88@reddit

I have plenty of energy, I just don't care to pursue an argument if it's just not that important. They can carry on in their ignorance if that's what they want. I don't care.

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Stella-The-Floof@reddit

Turning 50 next month and I’m already there.

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dacutty@reddit

Same

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SantaRosaJazz@reddit

This is just a natural part of getting older. Your brain chemistry changes, your body chemistry changes, and suddenly you feel differently about things. Wait til you’re 70.

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jtrades69@reddit

big mcintosh: "eeee-yup"

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l00ky_here@reddit

My barrel of fucks ran out about 15 years ago.

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thewanderingwzrd@reddit

A redditor asked me to show some links for proof. I said the internet is your friend and im not arguing with you.

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empericisttilldeath@reddit

I'm 55. When I get tired, i get more angry.

This is not the way the world is supposed to be.

And so when people argue that "all this" is good, and normal, I want to break some noses.

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BuckyRainbowCat@reddit

Oh 100%. Sometimes I even just don’t give my opinion if I think it’s likely that people will try to argue with me

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Bob-Dolemite@reddit

44 and i have this viewpoint

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acousticat@reddit

Whatever, people are allowed to be wrong.

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Internal-Hat958@reddit

My dad used to say “if you say so”. I don’t know when I turned into him, but I sure do say it a lot these days.

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73rd-virgin@reddit

I remember watching the talk shows in the 80s. I usually don't give my opinions, I saw Geraldo get his nose broken. Most people don't take to kindly to disagreements.

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Suspendedaccount_@reddit

You do not have to show up to every argument you are invited to.

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spargel_gesicht@reddit

That should hold you in good stead here on Reddit.

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Illustrious-Coat3532@reddit

I don’t argue anymore, especially here on Reddit. If someone says 2 plus 2 equals 5. Sure. You’re right.

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RaisedByBeavers@reddit

Truth is none of my business. It speaks for itself.

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SeparateSpend1542@reddit

I’ve actually come to the conclusion that no one actually changes their mind and arguing is just a ridiculous exercise at this point.

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60sStratLover@reddit

It’s not that I’ve lost the energy to argue, rather I’ve lost the desire to give a shit.

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wophi@reddit

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M0untainHead@reddit

Zen and the Art of Meh

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johnnyg08@reddit

2+2 = 6

Okay sounds good. Have a nice day!

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rogun64@reddit

I'm the same. When it happens online, I figure there's a high chance that it's a bot or someone debating in bad faith. So I just give my opinion and don't even worry about how it's received.

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monstertruck567@reddit

No need. The truth will defend itself.

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TravelerMSY@reddit

For sure. I like a spirited debate, but I’ll be disabling replies on this comment as soon as I post it.

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Bazoun@reddit

Happened to me around 40. I just realized most people aren’t arguing in good faith. So it’s a total waste of time, nearly every time.

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Taurusmoon66@reddit

I think I’ve had too many concussions over my youth, I lost the will to argue a longtime ago and chalked it up to personal integrity. Or my wife taught me arguing is useless, probably both.

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Tamases@reddit

Especially a Faith issue. I don't bother anymore. Just say "Ok then..happy you believe that and it works for you"

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SushiGirlRC@reddit

I always just say "whatever it takes to get you through it."

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Defiant_Trifle1122@reddit

I always just say, "ok" when someone argues with me. Whatever man. IDGAF.

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anx1etyhangover@reddit

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haz_waste@reddit

It's good to know that I'm not the only whi doesn't give a shit anymore

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IDEKWTSATP4444@reddit

Same though

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EducationalAlfalfa1@reddit

Yep. I’m 2 years away from retirement with a sweet pension. Got tired of trying to teach the young pups and share my hard earned lessons. So I just roll my eyes and laugh in my head, when watching them make some doozies.

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Ok_Try_2086@reddit

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Every-Cook5084@reddit

It’s our GenX superpower

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HemlockGrv@reddit

Love this.

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HemlockGrv@reddit

Same. I have no argument left in me. I’m happy to have open-minded discussions but I have no energy or desire to persuade anyone of anything.

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Expensive-Ferret-339@reddit

I was on a call with a staff member the other day and for the first time in my life said “this isn’t a discussion.”

I always welcome input from my staff but this particular issue was not negotiable (government mandate) and I didn’t have the energy to refute all the reasons she thought we could do something different.

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freetattoo@reddit

I have the utmost respect for the people in leadership at my work. I tried that path a couple of times over the years, and I just can't do it. I don't have (and don't want to have) the patience it takes.

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Expensive-Ferret-339@reddit

I said the same thing for many years after I was a manager in a different organization. I was asked to step into the role as interim—my boss knew I didn’t want it permanently.

That was 8 years ago. I’m not interim anymore, of course, and I actually enjoy it most of the time. It’s harder to manage my boss than my staff.

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Mrjlawrence@reddit

I’ve sat in far too many meetings over the years listening to high level mgmt debate for seemingly forever and say things like “well I don’t think it should work like that” or “I think it’s fine in this situation” when what they’re talking about is some regulation that they’re required to follow by law but they find it to be annoying and tedious. So we sit there wasting everybody’s time while they complain about something we will need to do

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Fartina69@reddit

I have a 20 year old nephew who fancies himself a communist. He's always trying to draw me in to an argument about how I'm brainwashed from all the anti-comnie propaganda posters that hung in our schools. Im not sure he knows when the McCarthy era was, but I haven't got the energy to educate him.

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dbrmn73@reddit

51 and same. In the famous words of whoever she was "Ain't nobody gots time for dat"

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17megahertz@reddit

Sweet Brown! (Kimberly Wilkins)

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FracturedNomad@reddit

At 51, I'm just gonna tell someone they're wrong and dumb. I'll let them figure out why.

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True_Resolve_2625@reddit

I'm 46 and same here. I don't have energy for anything that isn't immediate family, work, or hobby. And that definitely includes arguing. It just doesn't matter to me.

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Holiday_Advantage378@reddit

Also 53. Agreed.

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TrailsNstuff@reddit

I don't even give my opinion so that I don't have to argue, or hear anybody else's. I just do not care LOL. People only listen to their own opinion anyway it's not like I could change their mind

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A6000_Shooter@reddit

I do like to wind people up a bit and then let them go, while I sit back and forget about the conversation completely. Anything I have to say is of no significance in the the scheme of things, we (and me specificially) are just specs of dust with a misplaced sense of importance.

Like the great character Ted Lasso once said....be the goldfish.

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LiquidSoCrates@reddit

Yeah, I’m done with that shit. I have no desire to share my opinions or try and change someone’s mind. It doesn’t produce anything positive or fun.

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june-truth-sadface@reddit

Nearly 60 and same. Exhausted and what lil energy I have left is not for arguing.