Israel launches strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen

Posted by Leather-Paramedic-10@reddit | anime_titties | View on Reddit | 418 comments

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

"Houthi-run media in Yemen said the strikes hit Hudaydah, but no further details were provided on damage or casualties"

It's never Zionist-run media said....

It's never a Zionist run health medic organization said

When BBC reports what Israel said they always make it a matter of fact.

But when the BBC reports on something Israel did, it's always framed as a claim or an allegation made by someone who is purportedly part of a so-called terrorist organization.

Hamas rain run medical health organization said..

Houthi-run media said...

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Maybe because it is media that is run by the Houthis. There's a difference between state media run by a terrorist organization and a free press organization. One intentionally weponizes propaganda to serve political and military goals, and the other has an ideological bias. You don't say "Zionist run" BBC because it's not directly run by Israel or a Zionist organization, that is just a ridiculously stupid take and the fact that we stooped so low to now believe in the "everything is run by the Jews" conspiracy is fucking embarrassing. You could say it is run by people with an ideological bias that affects the reporting of the media, but that doesn't put it in the same level as deliberately twisting and weponizing misinformation like a lot of state run media do because free press organizations still have to somewhat operate under journalistic standards.

I agree that saying "Hamas run health ministry" is ridiculous, but don't come here defend the Houthis now.

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Bobsothethird@reddit

Yeah, but they'll use Israeli run media. They aren't saying terrorists run medical health organizations or terrorist run media are they?

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ArielRR@reddit

Because the work was done on that before. It is already implied that they are terrorists. The terms "Hamas terrorists" and "houthi terrorists" was repeated in every article

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Bobsothethird@reddit

I mean they did it to themselves by murdering civilians. If your name has gotten so bad that simply mentioning that it was you reporting something, how in the hell is that anyone else's fault but your own?

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ArielRR@reddit

I mean they did it to themselves by murdering civilians

Using that as an argument in the context of Israel is kinda crazy

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Bobsothethird@reddit

That's part of my point. Did you read my post? People correlate Israel and Zionism as the same thing the way they do Houthi/Hamas and terrorism. Again, media literacy would help here.

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Have you ever wondered why there was a dramatic uptick in violence after Zionism, whose founders described it as colonialism, started?

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It wasn’t what you said, it’s what actually happened.

Israel has been stealing land through illegal settlements non-stop for 58 years.

It was always their intention to steal land and that’s been proven right through history

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chdjfnd@reddit

So the Palestinian Arab Congress and Arab league didnt reject all offers they were given? The Yishuv werent being attacked under the Ottomans?

Do you know why the 1967 war started?

If Israel wanted to seize land, why did they give Egypt the Sinai back in 1979? Why did they withdraw from Lebanon after every war? Why did they withdraw from Gaza in 2005 and pull down all their settlements? Settled land disputes in their 1994 peace deal with Jordan?

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actsqueeze@reddit

Why has Israel been stealing land for the last 5 decades if they didn’t wanna steal land?

The proof is in the pudding sir. Can’t really claim your political movement wasn’t about conquest and settler colonialism when that’s what you’ve literally done.

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chdjfnd@reddit

Hahahahaha can you answer even one of the questions?

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actsqueeze@reddit

Because your questions are just obfuscation and whataboutisms.

Why would Israel giving back the Sinai for political reasons negate the illegal settlements they’ve been building since 1967 in the West Bank?

It’s like if I stole your belongings every year for decades and then claimed innocence by saying “well I gave your brother that headband back in 1973 so how can I be stealing from you?

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chdjfnd@reddit

“Israel just wants to steal land”

“So what about all of the lands Israel has ceded?”

“No not that land. You’re not allowed to talk about that land. Thats irrelevant. You’re trying to obscure”

Damn, so deep. If only you could read.

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DustyFalmouth@reddit

It's de-de-baathification all over again. They make the word synonymous with terrorism and don't explain at all government workers fall under it, including school teachers.

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AmarantCoral@reddit

Yeah this is thr bit that always bothered me about the Gaza reporting.

Dude, you are conflating a belief system with the news labeling sources from specific factions. Your examples are they say “Hamas” and “Houthi” when referring to where quotes and sources come from. They will literally say something is from “the IDF” or “Israel” in the same way.

Literally the only “group” you could confuse “Zionist” for is Jew because it’s very common for people to use both terms interchangeably already.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

It seems you might not have fully considered my earlier comments about the ideology and political system of those who uphold it.

It seems you genuinely prefer people to be anti-Semitic rather than anti-Zionist. Pushing the narrative that being anti-Zionist equates to being anti-Semitic is ridiculous and says more about you than about those of us who are anti Zionists.

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chdjfnd@reddit

If you’re anti zionist, you oppose Jewish self determination (which sounds anti semitic to me) &a Jewish majority nation state which 80+% of Jews support

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

K 🚮

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Remind me was hasbra caught influencing Reddit or was that Iran?

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X-O-K@reddit

Hasbara

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Zipz@reddit

No actually it was Iran

It's funny how you want to ignore the country that was actually caught on reddit

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jizmatik@reddit

This is actually terrifying. The Middle East has successfully weaponised an attack on Israel as a way globally destabilise opinion on “The Jews”.

We’ve gone from people being brutally executed at a music festival to this.

You have walked into a trap. Fucking useful idiots. You understand war isn’t fair? This is the brutal consequences of decades of attrition.

There are atrocities happening on both sides.

Yet every single one of you who supports Hamas. Yes. Hamas. By falling for propaganda and misinformation spread across the net like a fucking disease. You realise you’re a useful idiot right? It hurts. But when you understand the amount of resource being pooled into the anti Israel anti Jew sentiment is immense.

And it’s working?! Are you all fucking insane????? You have the AUDACITY to use the word a Genocide against the Jewish state. It actually disgusts me.

You can downvote me all you want. But I know a lot of you of faith, would not care if the Jewish faith was wiped from the earth for good.

You did a pretty fucking good job of it in the rest of the Middle East. Jews forced out everywhere. hypocrisy is unbelievable. It’s actually a mental illness manifesting itself. It’s the only way I can rationalise this. ?????

AND NOW... THE USEFUL IDIOTS AND PROPAGANDISTS BEHIND THIS HAVE THE TEMERITY TO AIRBRUSH THE MEANING OF ZION INTO IT BEING ANTISEMITIC JUST LIKE THE NAZIS DID.

YOU ACCUSE ISRAEL OF THAT. SOME OF YOU DENY THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED. SOME DOUBT THE NUMBERS. That is genocide.

You all sit here and think you’re doing something for the children of Gaza? All you’re fucking doing is facilitating what Iran and its allies and proxies want.

I don’t know why leftists suddenly forgot how bigotry works. You don’t need someone to say “I hate Jews” to be antisemitic.

You people have NO PROBLEM accepting this fact when it’s not Jews.

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taike0886@reddit

Man, I love coming here every time Israel delivers another L to this sub’s favorite Iran-sponsored terror gangs, this is better than watching the actual drone footage.

• ⁠Iran is the last regime in the Middle East "resisting Western/Zionist imperialism"; every other government is Western-aligned and has normalized or is in the process of normalizing relations with Israel. • Numerous Houthi targets struck, including their radar ship used to coordinate hits on Red Sea traffic • ⁠Every one of Iran's proxies has been pagered and cut off from their main source of funding, Assad's gone, Khamenei is in hiding and not one of Iran's BRICS friends has come to help. • ⁠Iran's nuclear deterrent is gone and it now takes 42,125 Iranian rials to equal one US dollar. • ⁠Iran pushed Palestinians to attack Israel and now Palestinian fighters have been wiped out, their tunnels flooded and Israel is nowhere closer to being wiped off the map than when they first flew their little paragliders into the music festival. • ⁠Greta got sent home and South Africa's "genocide" case against Israel in the ICJ turned out exactly as predicted.

Iran doesn't need little b—— a— unemployed white dudes in Brooklyn and Oakland and their cringe asf headscarves talking about "globalize the intifada" and “abolish the Zionist entity” while sipping IPA from their fixie bicycles, they need actual fighters. They don't need TikTok and Twitch warriors, they need guys who can actually step into place of the guys they had to hose out.

Israel is taking out all of her enemies while Arab and western leaders toast their success at home. This is quite literally the last stand for “anti-imperialism” (anti-Judaism) in the Middle East and all that the redditor Al-Paxil brigades are going to do about it is type sweatily and seek ways that they can cope. 😂😂🤣

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ExtremeAcceptable289@reddit

Iran is the last regime in the Middle East "resisting Western/Zionist imperialism"; every other government is Western-aligned and has normalized or is in the process of normalizing relations with Israel.

Yep

Iran's nuclear deterrent is gone and it now takes 42,125 Iranian rials to equal one US dollar.

Like the IAEA suggesting Iran can continue enriching in months?

⁠Iran pushed Palestinians to attack Israel and now Palestinian fighters have been wiped out, their tunnels flooded and Israel is nowhere closer to being wiped off the map than when they first flew their little paragliders into the music festival.

We said that about the Taliban, didn't we?

⁠Greta got sent home and South Africa's "genocide" case against Israel in the ICJ turned out exactly as predicted.

Still on-going?

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Old_Wallaby_7461@reddit

The Taliban just had to wait for the US to get bored and leave. Hamas isn't going to be able to wait for Israel to get bored and leave

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Zipz@reddit

They 100 percent do and the fact that it’s the number one comment here shows how fucked up this sub is

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Abject-Investment-42@reddit

You realise that Houthis only control a part of Yemen and there is also internationally recognised Yemeni government opposed to them, too? The distinction is necessary.

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You asked why they specified „Houthi controlled media“. I explained. What does that have to do with war crimes? Looks like you interpret too much into a formulation and then are pissed off that nobody uses your specific interpretation.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

I didn't ask, I highlighted their manipulation tactics and biases in reporting, You mentioned that the international community, including the Yemen government, opposes them. I pointed out that Israel is internationally recognized for committing war crimes, with opposition from almost everyone except a few Western countries. But yet you couldn't point out why one needs a distinction when covering the news and the other doesn't.

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Abject-Investment-42@reddit

Again, for you specifically: there are two governments in the country of Yemen, one is the Houthis and one is the Arab Republic of Yemen. Both claim all of Yemen. If you talk about Yemeni media, you need to specify „which Yemen“. There is no such question for Israel. There is only one of it.

There may or may not be a media bias but using „Houthi run media“ and „Israeli media“ is not a part of it.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

When did I claim anything about the Israeli media?

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Abject-Investment-42@reddit

You wondered why it doesn’t say „Zionist run media“.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Correct.

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Proper_Razzmatazz_36@reddit

Ok then, zionism is not a political party or organization, it's a belief.

So there is no reason to say they are zionist media, they just say israel when talking about Israeli media, while for Yemen, there are two governments that claim Yemen, the internationally recognized goverment, and the houthi, which would requiere a noting the specific group the reporting is coming from

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

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Proper_Razzmatazz_36@reddit

But the bcc is reporting where it is from, and who directly controls it.

There is a need to separate houthi and Yemen. The same need is not necessary for Israel and zionism, unless you belive there is some diference between the two

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

The BBC also fails to disclose its connections and ideological beliefs, being primarily financed, controlled, and governed by a government that upholds Zionist ideologies to propagate its own narrative, while simultaneously serving as a mouthpiece for the Israeli government. Are you noticing the double standards I'm highlighting, or are you not following?

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waddeaf@reddit

The BBC is a public broadcaster. It can't be financed by "Zionists" it's not privately funded.

I get that understanding the world through " da Jews control us" is a fun lil conspiracy theory but you need a better target next time champ.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

It's rather amusing that while there's a hint of truth in your statement, you've deftly sidestepped the main issues by fixating on an absolute claim of "private funding," which I never mentioned. (Nice hasbara)

My statement centers on the government grants, along with the influence of pro-Zionist BBC employees and its CEO, points you conveniently avoided. Furthermore, the government, known for its pro-Zionist stance, significantly contributes to what is widely as the Zionist apartheid state of Israel.

Also labeling me as anti-Semitic to silence and dismiss my statement? It's like pulling the ol’ "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" routine sorry, but that victim card has been canceled and just doesn't faze anyone anymore, especially not me! Good luck next time champ.

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waddeaf@reddit

Yeah it's fun watching the cymbal monkey toy in your brain smash together conspiracy theories into paragraphs.

So again you don't understand how the BBC is funded, it's not through government grants it's through licence fees which is direct funding from British citizens.

If you were talking about the ABC, in Australia which is government funded your pet conspiracy would be more salient as the government is directly providing the budget and there are no licence fees but I get it the BBC is the famous establishment organisation that people need to target when they call out mainstream media.

But yeah the UK is completely Zionist controlled that's definitely the core philosophical foundation.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Your repeated misinterpretations never cease to amaze me, highlighting both projection and a glaring lack of reading comprehension. Let me simplify it for you: perhaps the abundance of words is just too distracting for you.

🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻 It's rather amusing that while there's a hint of truth in your statement, you've deftly sidestepped the main issues by fixating on an absolute claim of "private funding," which I never mentioned. (Nice hasbara tactic) 🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻🔻 My statement centers on the government grants, along with the influence of pro-Zionist BBC employees and its CEO, points you conveniently avoided. Furthermore, the government, known for its pro-Zionist stance, significantly contributes to what is widely as the Zionist apartheid state of Israel.

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waddeaf@reddit

Naaaaaw the critique didn't fall into your dialogue tree so you've just repeated the same slop, I was so excited for the next thread.

So good to know we've cleared up there's no Zionist (Jewish) financing of the BBC.

The accusation of the Zionist CEO is interesting given that Samir Shah had accusations of anti semitism labels against for not launching an investigation of alleged anti-Semitism in 2024 and not labelling Hamas as a terrorist organisation in its reporting. A separate investigation into their arabic language coverage has since occurred starting in May of this year. That gives an impression of balanced coverage not rabid partisanship.

The problem with your favourite buzzword is that it can mean whatever you want it to in any given conversation and you can decide how strong you want to make it so there's no way to actually pin you to a stance.

Pro-zionist could mean be someone believes in a two state solution of Israel and Palestine and doesn't endorse the conduct of Israel. Or it could mean that they want Gaza turned into glass and Israel to kill all the Muslims.

The UK and the BBC has plenty of the former but not so much of the latter. And trying to say it's all Zionist or Zionist controlled is more revealing than you think you're being.

Some new thoughts though please would love to see where we're going next.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Haha, it seems you're pulling a move right out of the playbook, appointing a chairperson who was pushed into a corner and accused of anti-Semitism simply because his social media posts on the Gaza genocide didn't sit well with the pro-Zionist network I've been referencing. You literally using the same tactics to label me anti-Semitic for my criticism of Zionists employing these Hasbara strategies to silence any critique of Israel. Yet, somehow, you're acting as though having a chairperson silenced through such accusations resolves the issue. You are just proving my point. 😂😂 The irony.

Patrick Sawer's claims are nothing but a classic attempt to shut down any neutral perspectives, using the old ADL and Hasbara tactics.. these are not evidences.

I can't handle being called anti-Semitic again.

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waddeaf@reddit

Yeah cool whinge mate the telegraph reporter isn't the BBC nor is he doing the investigation, of which we haven't actually seen the findings of anyway as it's ongoing.

A neutral perspective wouldn't be using Zionist as a pejorative so that's clearly not what you're after champ.

Maybe try responding to what I said next time.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

You want a real investigation report start here:

https://cfmm.org.uk/bbc-on-gaza-israel-one-story-double-standards/

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waddeaf@reddit

Wow the Ideological equivalent of sending me a UNwatch report, I'm dumbfounded and unable to respond.

A lot of this can be turned down by definitions so when you're talking about a massacre generally that's a reference to a single event of violence, October 7th fits quite neatly the Gaza war which has seen atrocities over a long period of time doesn't that definition. Instead you'd say war or conflict or genocide if you want to be spicy (which no news org would dare run)

Second imbalance is a matter of access, it's much easier to get into Israel and find out about Israeli hostages than it is to get into gaza.

Furthermore an imbalance isn't the same thing as a lack of coverage nor does it denote when and where in the BBC these reports were run. Was it on prime times news? Was it a front page? How many eyeballs etc.

Goodwin's law is always representative of huge knowledge so you're well on your way.

Join us brother, more two state solution believers will help.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

You must possess an extensive knowledge, having suspected me of anti-Semitism from that viewpoint all along impressive! So, what should I do with all the evidence of war crimes from organizations like Human Rights Watch and the UN, along with the news reports of IDF committing atrocities?

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waddeaf@reddit

it's ok champ one day you'll be able to figure out that you can criticise israel without needing to rail against the "zionist controlled media"

baby steps, you'll get there

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Zionist-controlled media works in our favor because it allows us to craft our own narratives and downplay our actions. The real challenge, however, is that the new generation isn't relying solely on mainstream media anymore. Some are quite savvy—though probably not as sharp as you, given your brilliance and seemingly chosen status. Nevertheless, UN reports, human rights findings, and live footage of alleged war crimes pose a serious issue. So, please enlighten me, "chosen one," on how to effectively deny and dismiss these reports, just as you managed with the media bias findings. I can see clearly through the matrix now "chosen one"

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Abject-Investment-42@reddit

How predictable. Everything that disagrees with your little conspiracy theory is hasbara. Are you on Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion yet or did you already graduate to Mein Kampf?

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

The irony is palpable when every critique of Zionism is met with accusations of anti-Semitism. It's even more glaring when highlighting this Hasbara tactic prompts you to double down and label me an anti-Semite. I find it particularly offensive that you ( a German) would recommend Nazi literature to me, material I was unfamiliar with and had to research independently.

If you are German you are on the wrong side of history once again!

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Abject-Investment-42@reddit

You are not even attempting to „critique Zionism“ in this thread, all you do is hunting for Zionist influences in every media outlet that doesn’t report according to your wishes. That’s a typical antisemitic behaviour, and even using the fancy word „Zionist“ doesn’t help against it. And of course every statement against your baseless claims is hasbara, another fancy word used by antisemites to shut down any debate if they are losing.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

My critique of the BBC and Western media, known for their pro-Zionist stances, is not anti-Semitic. You’re the one conflating my criticism of these institutions with anti-Semitism a clear Hasbara tactic. Let’s not pretend it’s a conspiracy theory to avoid facing the facts. Your dismissal by labeling it anti-Semitic shows a lack of knowledge and an unwillingness to engage with the topic. (Typical German)

Numerous reports and studies raise concerns about bias in various news outlets, especially in the West. They indicate that Western media, including major U.S. outlets, often prioritize Israeli narratives. This tendency results in the downplaying or omission of Palestinian experiences and suffering.

You have the choice to educate yourself on this topic or continue dismissing my points by labeling me as anti-Semitic, which I am not. Doing so trivializes genuine anti-Semitism and its consequences.

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Turgius_Lupus@reddit

You're out here defending a terrorist group whose explicitly genocidal slogan I quoted to you and you deliberately ignore it and then resort to calling me a "Zionist" which definitely has no other implications coming from a terrorist defender like yourself. Are you doing okay? Are you upset your terrorist buddies are losing every fight they start against our tiny population? Don't worry my friend, unfortunately there will always be Jew haters you can root for if you love the taste of failure so much. Maybe they can even help you come up with more convincing rationales that doesn't involve straight up lying to support terrorists next time!

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If both are bad that doesn’t mean their ant semtic slogan should not be discussed regardless of who’s worse

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

It is being discussed though, while Israel’s genocide actually gets defenders.

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GothicGolem29@reddit

Israel’s actions(icj haven’t ruled on the genocide claim yet tho it’s certainly war crimes imo) getting defenders does not mean the Houthis antisemitism should not be discussed

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

Pretty much every genocide expert and human rights organization agrees that that Israel’s actions are genocidal.

Including several jewish professors and holocaust survivors.

Im with you there

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GothicGolem29@reddit

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pigbrotha@reddit

If you believe them, it explains a lot.

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Unable_Duck9588@reddit

You can pretend it’s something else if you want.

It’s not like we can make you act like you know things

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cyberadmin1@reddit

You:

They do it to stop ships to Israel as a protest for the genocide Israel is conducting. That’s what they say.

Also you:

You can pretend it’s something else if you want. It’s not like we can make you understand nuance.

How are they helping tho? Wich tangible effet have they achieved, for the people of Gaza?

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imunfair@reddit

So a group of people has committed to help another group of people thousands of miles away at the cost of the lives of their own people.

Those "thousands of miles" were only half the length of the Ottoman Empire that Israel is plopped right in the center of - not sure why you're surprised that a nation state shoehorned in by the British after their conquest of the Ottoman Empire in WW1 is a point of contention with the other nations that comprised it even though they're now considered separate countries.

Like if the United States was split up at some point and a foreign nation that hated Americans took over Los Angeles, would you be surprised if other former US states contributed to a war effort against New Los Angeles? Especially of New Los Angeles continued "settling" more of California every time they were given a chance?

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Trarrac@reddit

Its not too infrequently "Israeli media reports"

Wait a minute, I thought you stated they weren't at war with Yemen? Also war is governed by established rules and regulations. For supporters of Israel and being Polish or from Portland knowing your history, these nuances might be challenging to fully grasp.

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Raesh771@reddit

Yes, I did.

Can't be a war crime if its its accordance to international law.

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modianoyyo@reddit

Paneuropean civic nationalism, imperialism and militarism are the ideologies I can comfortably stand behind. I also think fascism has a lot ideas that could work under certain circumstances, but I obviously don't agree with the racism part.

least fascist pole.

no wonder you like israel since you seem ok with fascism lol

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MarquesSCP@reddit

but I obviously don't agree with the racism part.

bruh

OBVIOUSLY

I wonder what he agrees with then? I guess all the other forms of discrimination are ok?

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Raesh771@reddit

I agree with militarism and putting nation's interests above individual's. I also consider benevolent dictatorship a good form of government. I don't support any forms of discrimination.

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modianoyyo@reddit

this guy is also gay btw.

so he's against fascism's racist part. i wonder if he's aware that the nazis also murdered gay men?

this is the problem with this site and the internet in general. you have to interact with completely clueless donuts

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Raesh771@reddit

Pretty funny how you totally misinterpret what I said and run away with your own interpretation.

Also fascism =/= nazism

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Get a room.

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jizmatik@reddit

Hahahahwhw same. I feel like I’m living in fuckingal lah lah land

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Monterenbas@reddit

I mean logistical hubs are pretty common military targets, in all conflicts.

Israel bombs Iran] "Israel isn't at war with Iran. They're at war with the ayatollah."

No one actually said that.

For the other two, it is correct they are targeting non state actors not the internationally recognized government

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Brief_Patience5576@reddit

They literally said we're not at war with Iranian people we are at war with the their government/regime and then killed a thousand of Iranian citizens

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historicusXIII@reddit

Yes, people actually say that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsOSDnjhGIE

JD Vance: ‘We’re not at war with Iran. We’re at war with Iran’s nuclear program’

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RockstepGuy@reddit

Short answer: there are reporters frfom this place in Israel that can corroborate the damage, there are however no international reporters in Yemen controlled Houti territory nor in Gaza (IDF censorship).

BBC also add "IDF says" a lot of the time when talking about stuff happening in Gaza.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

I'm surprised you didn't mention the international journalists who have been killed and the censorship they face when reporting from Israel, where everything is reviewed before being released to the press. Additionally, you might not be aware of the recent situation where over 300 media professionals submitted an open letter expressing concern over the BBC's coverage of the war in Gaza, highlighting an escalating crisis in media representation.

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RockstepGuy@reddit

Yes, but that's not the point i was making, the point is that the BBC itself lacks reporters on the ground that can verify the damage, so rather than boldly claim "this happened" they prefer to say "witnesses say", since they cannot confirm it happened, they cannot confirm what the Gaza health ministry says, and cannot confirm what the IDF says, they can however sometimes confirm stuff if it happened inside Israel, since they have reporters there.

I'm aware Israel has killed reporters, and i'm aware Gaza is under heavy information control, but that's not the point i was trying to make.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Yes, but that's not the point i was making, the point is that the BBC itself lacks reporters on the ground that can verify the damage, so rather than boldly claim "this happened" they prefer to say "witnesses say",

However, they aren't simply stating "witnesses say" regarding the events. Instead, they are lumping together all witness reports and the accounts of human rights organizations present on the ground, categorizing them under one umbrella by labeling them as a medical organization run by a terrorist group (Hamas).

At the outset of the conflict, Reuters and other organizations had journalists on the ground, demonstrating that it is possible for the BBC and other Western media outlets to do the same. However, they choose not to, cuz they complicit and acting as a mouthpiece of the genocide.

All the reports are verifiable as there are human rights organizations and Doctors Without Borders present on the ground, witnessing and treating the casualties.

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CamisaMalva@reddit

... And what's that got to do with Yemen, exactly?

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itsamepants@reddit

Gee, what could be the difference between a rebel army that is globally recognised as a terror organisation and a country that doesn't have any state-media?

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

It's interesting how it's often termed "globally recognized," when in reality, it's primarily acknowledged by colonial states and NATO-backed regimes. This selectivity highlights a certain level of superiority, assuming these particular states of which you are a part are the primary standard for global consensus.

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meister2983@reddit

What the hell are you talking about? How many countries recognize the Houthis as the government of Yemen? Iran?

Yeah I guess global recognition of the force they are actively fighting a war against is indeed nothing. The imperialists win again

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BigTex88@reddit

What

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DustyFalmouth@reddit

By globally you mean The Western Media which has been wholly backing the complete razing of all the Middle Eastern countries that were not involved in 9/11 as a result of 9/11.

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GothicGolem29@reddit

The Houthis aren't the recognised gov in Yemen nor do they control all the land so it is important to say Houthi media to recognise its ones they control.

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FIREKNIGHTTTTT@reddit

I find it funny how western people caught on that fact in the last couple of months.

As someone who always knew about this pattern of reporting for years and years, it was tiring to try and explain the blatant favoritism and lack of journalistic integrity of the mainstream media when it comes to Israel. It always played an insidious role by subconsciously manipulating the view of the average ill-informed joe regarding certain events.

Glad to see so many people catching up to this crap and rightfully calling it out. It’s amusing to see the MM still stuck in their own ways as it hasn’t found a way to deal with this recent development.

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reddit_is_geh@reddit

I think COVID caused media literacy to skyrocket. What used to be blatant obvious manufacturing consent, was always denied by most people... Because "America doesn't run propaganda!" But COVID finally opened everyone's eyes after seeing the constant gauntlet of the media just outright deceiving everyone.

Hell, I know COVID indirectly is what opened my eyes to Israel. I used to just believe their narratives, and write off Palestinians as sore losers. But once my sensitivity increased I noticed all the weasel words and double standards I actually started researching Israel's claims... And found out, I was pretty much constantly lied to. From their strategy to justify offensive wars, to the constant lie that "Hamas refuses to agree to anything less than full removal of Israel." Like yo, Israel conveniently leaves out that they assassinate negotiators routinely, knowing it will cause negotiations to break down so they can blame the other side. So much of their shit was completely unknown to me.

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Sacaron_R3@reddit

I think a lot of that came from the syrian civil war. Western media and governments spent years portraying a bunch of extremists as plucky democratic resistance fighters, with a constant barrage of tearjerkers aimed at generating sympathy.

Now its pretty much the same picture, but with massive, one-sided civilian casualties and MSM are trying so very hard to make people forget about all the feelings they tried so very hard to generate just a few years earlier.

It was the same in the arab spring, which inspired people to rise up...until people kept rising up in places there were not supposed to.

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Actually, that would be you.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

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RaiJolt2@reddit

Because “Zionist” isn’t an organization. It’s an ideology/idea.

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It’s literally not. Saying “violence is bad” is not on the same level as saying Jews should be kicked out of our homeland because we shouldn’t have a state there to defend ourselves and seek liberation after thousands of years of oppression.

It’s not even comparable.

Zionism is the belief that Jews should be able to live in and have self determination in our homeland, preferably through a state for the Jewish people so said self determination is guaranteed and not conditional or easily stripped, as a people we have been second class citizens and stripped of self determination in almost every nation through history. After assimilating into cultures utterly failed and led to the disenfranchisement and expulsions and mass murder and terrorism of Jews again and again and again, modern Zionism was born.

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Ala117@reddit

It’s literally not.

it is, settler violence is how israel was founded.

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Yes and if someone was covering what an Israel run media organization said then it would be reported as Israel run media. However as “Zionist is often use as a dogwhistle for Jewish in the antisemitic sense, being particular is in fact appropriate. If instead of “Houthi run media”, Islamist run media, communist run media, or capitalist run media was the term used that would tell you nothing of who is saying, just an ideological descriptor. Heck “Islamist run media” probably is the /could be a don’t dogwhistle for “Muslim.” Frankly, people all any media that isn’t explicitly anti-Israel “Zionist media”. So saying “Zionist media” could mean the bbc, msnbc, fox, etc. so saying “why not Zionist media” is a clear dogwhistle.

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HockeyHocki@reddit

It's never Zionist-run media said

Oh look another 'zionists' control the media post on animetitties, ghouls are getting more brazen

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lockdownfever4all@reddit

Well yes, anything coming out of Israel must be approved by the Israel Military Censor unit of the IDF, so zionists do in fact control Israeli media and are censoring more than they ever have in their history

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SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit

You can’t tag other media outlets with ideology because that’s an attack on any outlet that calls themselves neutral.

Imagine a Fox News report saying “left wing media outlet CNN” or CNN referring to “right wing media outlet Fox News”. Maybe Huffpo calls the NYT “Cuomo supporting news source NYT”. Zionism is an ideology. It’s unprofessional to tag other news outlets by tagging them with an ideology because if everyone did it, media would just be reporters throwing shade at their rivals.

Comparatively, when a media outlet is run by a specific interest group or government, it’s not an attack to call them that. That’s literally what they are. Anadolu is run by the government of Turkey. TASS is run by the government of Russia. Al-Masirah TV is run by the Houthis. Epoch Times is run by the Falun Gong.

Any Israeli state media should be called “Israeli state media outlet” or “Israeli government media outlet”.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

What are you talking about? Did you even read what I said? It seems like you went off on a tangent. Take a moment to reread my words carefully.

It's an ideology and a political system, and, ideally, media outlets that support or receive funding from such an ideology should be identified as such in the interest of unbiased reporting.

However, platforms like the BBC and much of the Western media often embody or are influenced by these beliefs or are owned by entities aligned with them. Acknowledging this connection would serve as an important indicator of potential bias in their reporting.

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SaneForCocoaPuffs@reddit

Every media outlet has bias. That’s because everyone has bias.

Calling out other media sources for ideological bias is pot calling kettle black. I can tell you that the BBC, one of the most reputable news agencies in the world, has a strong pro-UK bias, and will usually frame events of the world from a British viewpoint. I can guarantee that NPR has a strong pro-US bias and frames events from a US viewpoint.

Do private independent news agencies based in Israel view events from an Israeli viewpoint? No sh-t Sherlock.

It’s professional courtesy to not act like children and call out everyone else’s bias like your news agency is the only neutral source in existence.

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Wait, so you're agreeing with me, yet you're upset about something we both actually agree on? Yes, the BBC and much of the Western media are pro-Zionist and have been complicit in the genocide, much like the Western governments.

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nitzane@reddit

Randomly generated profile name, 5 months old, two posts and only comments on the middle east.

Only in a co-opted sub would people argue that a country shouldn't respond when it's targeted by missile attacks and terror proxies.

Let’s be very clear the Houthis have openly launched missiles and drones at Israel. That’s not disputed , it’s well documented.

In any normal context, a sovereign nation has every right to defend itself and degrade the capabilities of those attacking it. That’s basic self-defense. Any reasonable person would expect that from their country to ensure further protection and proactive defense.

But somehow, when it comes to Israel, people twist themselves into knots justifying why it should sit on its hands and take it. If any other country were under direct attack from a foreign militant group, the same crowd would be demanding action not restraint.

The double standard is obvious, and it’s beyond ridiculous.

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SurfiNinja101@reddit

Israel is only being attacked by the Houthis because they are violating international law and committing war crimes against the Palestinians in Gaza.

Maybe Israel shouldn’t commit war crimes and purposefully villainise themselves in the region and see how far that gets them first.

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Maple_Moose_14@reddit

Yeah makes a lot of sense countries get blanket immunity when they claim to be doing it for a cause you champion...

That’s not resistance, that’s terrorism and it puts both Israelis and Palestinians at greater risk.

OH fuck you, you don't give a shit about Palestinians, you ghoul.

Maybe try making an argument without the usual buzzwords , “genocide,” “regime,” “colonizer”

These aren't buzzwords, they accurately describe your genocidal kin's actions, and character.

like the growing population in Gaza

Post proof, you absolute shitstain Zionist. This Nazi talking point gets thrown around by your ilk, but it's never substanciated. The newest estimated deathtolls, based on missing people, calculated by an Israeli, is closer to 400k people.

ongoing aid deliveries,

Where the IDF and the GHF kill hundreds a week? Where oxy is put in the flour, and the food is often rotten, or need water to be prepared?

What are you trying to do here? We keep up with this shit specifically because you ghouls lie your assess off unquestioned if we don't.

and the fact that these attacks rarely serve the people you claim to defend.

Anything that harms Israel, or put cracks in the Zionist psyche, helps Palestinians.

You don't get to justify launching missiles at civilians by pretending you're “defending children.” That’s not moral high ground , it’s just weaponized victimhood wrapped in bad faith.

The irony of a Zionist saying this, is absolutely earth-shattering. Actually, yes, they are defending children, by forcing Israel to spend more resources, to increase unrest in Israel. Everything helps.

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Kromostone123@reddit

Anything that harms Israel, or put cracks in the Zionist psyche, helps Palestinians.

damn this makes no sense at all ngl. you cant harm a country. a country is just a concept. you CAN harm individuals in the country however. so do you think israeli civilians being harmed is good for palestinians? has the opposite effect really, look how many more israelis support the genocide after oct 7th. radicalizing a civilian population is actually not good, and the group i assume you care about are the ones that suffer the most as a result of it. the palestinians.

i dont like that person's "why is the population growing" argument, i find it really disgusting and stupid, also the aid thing is a dumb point, but he's right about his sentiment on houthi attacks. lets pretend shooting random rockets at civilian areas is "resistance"... the end result of these attacks is simply more destruction on wherever these attacks came from, and israelis becoming more radicalized. guess who pays the price for that? palestinians... dont be fooled into thinking these groups are righteous and just care about palestinians a lot, they dont. neither does hamas. they knew what israel would do to gaza after oct 7th. and its the same with people like netanyahu too. he doesnt give a shit about me or anyone else, this conflict only benefits him. creating "unrest in israel" due to civilians being targeted does not lead to saving palestinian children. you have it so beyond backwards, but it doesnt matter because you wont suffer as a result of it, palestinians will, and its fucked up.

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SurfiNinja101@reddit

If firing drones and guided rockets is terrorism and not resistance then Israel is equally guilty of crimes as the Houthis.

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Maple_Moose_14@reddit

So once again, it's the usual whataboutism , condemning Israel for its actions while excusing the Houthis for doing the same thing. (Your words)

What’s that called again?

Oh right…hypocrisy.

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SurfiNinja101@reddit

Love how you completely ignored the second part of my comment so you can continue to spew that absolute apologist propaganda. I hope you’re a bot

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Pandee977@reddit

The houthis are the reason there are almost ten million starving kids in Yemen. Do you really think the number 50 thousand is more than 10 million? I know one starts with 50 and the other with 10 but you should be able to work this out.

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SurfiNinja101@reddit

No, the reason why there are starving kids in Yemen is because the US helped Saudi Arabia wage war against the nation

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Pandee977@reddit

You think the houthis, one of the sides in the current civil war. The side that uses child soldiers. Isn't the reason why that war is leaving over ten million children at risk?

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raphcosteau@reddit

The Houthis are ‘protecting Gazans’ by launching random missiles at Israel from 1,500 miles away? Give me a break...

What should they be doing? They're one of the few groups with the morality to do anything against Israel's genocide.

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CamisaMalva@reddit

What should they be doing to stop the genocide, then, in your opinion?

Assuming they were actually trying to "stop genocide" as opposed to just attacking Israel 'cause of the whole Death to America and Israel thing, literally anything but this.

What should the Houthis do that is more effective at stopping this genocide that you also ostensibly oppose?

Not being terrorists, for starters?

They're one of the few groups with the morality to do anything against Israel's genocide.

Either you are painfully naive, completely unaware of what they've done to Yemen, or just think that anyone opposing Israel must be a good guy.

That, and Israel is not doing any genocide whatsoever- not when Gaza's population has grown in the last two years and the death toll barely amounts to 05% of their population.

Are these worse than genocide in your mind?

So, terrorism stops being relevant and those responsible for it become the good guys if you think something worse is happening? Gotta wonder what the Yemeni would think about it.

If you think that the Houthis are immoral for things that have little to do with Israel

You mean mass murder again Yemen's people, hijacking civilian ships to either kill those aboard or take them hostages, violently repress any defiance against them and many other atrocities that you seem to consider unimportant?

Some heroes they are. Definitely fucking with Israel for all the right reasons. lol

Oh, like a blockade? Which apparently only the US, Israel, and the rest of the White Supremacy Empire have the authority to do?

Is Egypt part of a "White Supremacy Empire" now? Didn't know that a Middle Eastern country full of Mizhari Jews, Arabs, Palestinians and Druze among others were all white supremacists either.

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Steg567@reddit

Its a marvel level understanding of the world Israel = bad, houthis oppose Israel, houthis = good

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Assassinduck@reddit

That, and Israel is not doing any genocide whatsoever- not when Gaza's population has grown in the last two years and the death toll barely amounts to 05% of their population.

Post proof of this insane claim, you absolute Zionist cretin. You don't have any.

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NotActuallyIraqi@reddit

Yes, international law states that all member states must take action to stop a genocide. If that means closing shipping by that country or launching airstrikes so be it. Israeli launches airstrikes that blow up Iranian apartment buildings, so complaining that it’s done to them is hypocrisy.

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Wayoutofthewayof@reddit

When was it determined that Israel is committing genocide by any international law enforcement body?

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Assassinduck@reddit

I love that we for some reason have to wait on the notiorusly slow, and pro-western legal system, before we can claim the obvious is happening.

This kind of bitch-made "legalism" is truly the domain of the Germans, the Swiss, and the Dutch, it seems.

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Maple_Moose_14@reddit

Suddenly you care about international law but you have no issue condoning Houthi attacks on civilian infrastructure?

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Assassinduck@reddit

"civilian infrastructure" what the fuck are you talking about, Zionist?

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cultish_alibi@reddit

they’d be sending humanitarian aid

Lots of people have tried to send aid to Gaza and what happens to those people?

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Maple_Moose_14@reddit

Plenty of aid gets into Gaza , the population is growing , they post videos from the latest smartphones in Gaza and I see hardship and war but not starvation. Clearly aid is getting in , enough with the hyperbole.

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duckwwords@reddit

sending humanitarian aid

To be stopped by israelis?

diplomatic support

Right, no one else is doing that without achieving anything significant and constant vetos by daddy US.

this sub is co-opted

wellknownname@reddit

Intellectually I think everyone is aware the Houthis are a murderous group who hold much of the responsibility for the 3-400,000 dead in the Yemen conflict, using child soldiers, slavery, and targeting civilians. But emotionally I think many here like to vibe with them as good guys because they don't like Israel. The real problem is that most here don't know what's going on in Yemen and who can blame them - the media don't bother reporting it because no one cares if it's not Israel.

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Ala117@reddit

the media don't bother reporting it because no one cares if it's not Germany

You in the 40s

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Monterenbas@reddit

Do the houtis violate international laws?

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meister2983@reddit

see how far that gets them first.

Would make no difference. Government isn't run by idiots.

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SurfiNinja101@reddit

They’re morally-bankrupt warmongers, which unfortunately isn’t any better.

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Hamas animals

You Israelis are so fucking stupid.

killing 1400 civilians

I'm sorry, but not even your government pushes this lie anymore. Hundreds of the people killed were soldiers, and many of the killed were indeed killed by your own military. Please keep up, we know you have the internet based on the absolute depraved evil we see you and your kin post daily.

Why can't you just change your flair to "international Jew hater"? I mean it's just really obvious man, you should own up to who you are instead of hiding behind the keffiyeh

I love this Chefs kiss 🤌 You heard it here folk, for the millionth time, a Zionist proclaims: jew = genocider.

You morons have no idea what kind of insane shit you are wishing into the world by pretending that that is true.

I bet we will all be super surprised when this kind of rhetoric has dire consequences not so far down the road.

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MarquesSCP@reddit

Wow , some of these comments are really something...

Only in a co-opted sub would people argue that a country shouldn't respond when it's targeted by missile attacks and terror proxies.

Let’s be very clear the IDF have openly launched missiles and drones at Yemen. That’s not disputed by anyone , it’s more than well documented.

But somehow, when it comes to Iemen, people twist themselves into knots justifying why it should sit on its hands and take it. If any other country were under direct attack from a foreign militant group, the same crowd would be demanding action not restraint.

Nonhinged@reddit

That's not collateral damage.

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GothicGolem29@reddit

Its probably a war crime to attack civilian vessels attack a airport injuring people including civs and they kidnapped some sailors at one point too.

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themightycatp00@reddit

It’s not a war crime to intervene to stop a genocide. Literally required by international law

What are you going by airbud rules?

Yea the United Nations should be blocking those ships, they seem toothless without US backing though

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themightycatp00@reddit

during the last Israel-Hamas ceasefire, the Houthis stopped their attacks and blockades. They only resumed once Israel broke the ceasefire.

Duty to intervene in what? Please show me that UN principle.

Private_HughMan@reddit

...Are you seriously victim blaming a genocide? "We'll stop slaughtering every man woman and child and no longer fire tank shells at people begging for food if you just surrender!"

Even if that is true, that doesn't make it less of a genocide.

Many of your people would say Saudi Arabia is geocoding Yemen - surely a more important target to bomb?

We would? Who are these people?

Especially considering nothing the Houthis are doing is stopping Israel.

And the Jewish fighters in the Warsaw ghetto weren't doing much to stop the Nazis. What's your point?

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

I just think it’s amusing this is the first genocide in human history where the victims could stop it by just surrendering, that’s all. If you want something funnier, think about how it takes a human a week to die without food or water yet Israel continues to allow both into Gaza for three years by now, despite having the ability to shut it down. The first genocide where the victimizers apparently choose to do it the slowest way possible rather than fastest.

We would?

Not you specifically, apparently. But I think everyone could agree Saudi Arabia is far more responsible for Yemen’s suffering than Israel, genocide or not. Is attacking Israel more important for you than Yemeni welfare?

Jewish fighters

Do you think Yemen is a ghetto managed by Israel?

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Private_HughMan@reddit

I just think it’s amusing this is the first genocide in human history where the victims could stop it by just surrendering, that’s all. I

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't find genocide funny. Maybe it's a cultural difference. Though did you know that, much like your current government, the Nazis did initially consider ethnic cleansing by forced relocation. That proved to be unfeasible, so they opted for the death camps. That's why the Holocaust was the "final solution"; because they felt liek the other "solutions" they tried didn't pan out. So the Jews could have apparently surrendered to forced relocation far earlier and potentially lived. Is that funny?

I don't find it funny or even understand why it's funny since it involves untold human pain and suffering and slaughter, but it sounds like the kind of humour you'd appreciate.

If you want something funnier, think about how it takes a human a week to die without food or water yet Israel continues to allow both into Gaza for three years by now, despite having the ability to shut it down.

...How is that funny? That Israel is pressured into not starving millions of people to death? Or how Israel keeps gunning down people who go to the few designated aid sites?

Did you bust a gut when the IDF and the jihadi mercenaries you and your new Axis buddies hired fired a tank shell into a crowd of starving human beings begging for bags of flour? Is footage of the IDF destroying wells and streams in small Palestinian farming villages the equivilant of America's Funniest Home Videos to you?

The first genocide where the victimizers apparently choose to do it the slowest way possible rather than fastest.

Are you suggesting that Jews during the Holocaust should have welcomed the gas chambers because it was preferable to the Hunger Plan or being worked to death as slaves? Is this the kind of stuff you find funny?

But I think everyone could agree Saudi Arabia is far more responsible for Yemen’s suffering than Israel, genocide or not.

They're fighting for Gazans. This may shock you, but there's an emotion known as "empathy" that allows people to feel the emotions of others, even if they don't belong to the nearest geographical or political group. I don't speak Hebrew but I suspect you guys have a word for that concept as well. Though schools may have avoided teaching you that word for obvious reasons.

Do you think Yemen is a ghetto managed by Israel?

No, I think Gaza is a ghetto managed by Israel.

Do you honestly have trouble understanding that people in Yemen may concern themselves with people in Gaza?

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CricketJamSession@reddit

Please don't bother man..

These unhinged arguments are only meant to deprive you of energy and you're most likely arguing a bot.

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suitorarmorfan@reddit

You haven’t denied that Israel is an apartheid genocidal state. Glad to see you’re self aware

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SurturOfMuspelheim@reddit

China and Iran aren't invading anyone and bombing civilians.

Russia is too far and still isn't as bad as Israel. Israel has invaded or bombed 5 countries this year alone and have an apartheid government. Russia has invaded and bombed one. Didn't some Israeli guy just body slam a toddler in Russia? You don't hear about Russians doing that. Israels sickness has permeated much of its society and population. Russias is mostly just the government.

It's hilarious though that you just say China and Iran like they've done jack shit lmao.

Yemen's food problems aren't a result of the Houthis attacking shipping or Israel.

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

China and Iran are oppressing millions of people. If being a bad country is justified as a reason to attack, then the Houthis should attack them too, right?

No country on earth is too far for the Houthis’ missiles. You are spreading Israeli propaganda by claiming the Houthis are too weak to attack Russia.

Can I have proof by the way the toddler slammer from Russia was Israeli? You guys forgot to provide it when it appended, so I’d be glad if you could now. You wouldn’t lie about that, would you?

You are also forgetting that Israel attacked those 5 countries after the majority of them attacked Israel first. Why does it matter for you, I wonder? The Houthis attacked Israel without being attacked first, so why are you making excuses for those other countries?

Houthis also deliberately choose to spend money on bombing Israel rather than solving their own problem. Every soldier the Houthis pay to handle missiles is a soldier unpaid to distribute food. Do you think it’s morally righteous to sacrifice Yemeni civilians for ineffective attacks against Israel?

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SurturOfMuspelheim@reddit

China and Iran are oppressing millions of people. If being a bad country is justified as a reason to attack, then the Houthis should attack them too, right?

China is oppressing millions of people? Do tell how.

Iran... sure? Their oppression is less freedom of expression and women have to wear more clothes, that's different than Israel not allowing poor Jews into shelters, or the.. blatant apartheid regime with Arabs, bombing aid stations that THEY helped setup, bombing hospitals left and right, gunning down civilians all the time, stealing their womens clothing, kicking Palestinians out of their home and stealing it for some American that came to Israel... cutting off water supply, food, medical aid, bombing aid workers, killing UN workers, the list goes on. Israels crimes are on an entire new scale compared to Iran.

No country on earth is too far for the Houthis’ missiles. You are spreading Israeli propaganda by claiming the Houthis are too weak to attack Russia.

Source?

Can I have proof by the way the toddler slammer from Russia was Israeli? You guys forgot to provide it when it appended, so I’d be glad if you could now. You wouldn’t lie about that, would you?

After searching back, the source is ultimately from Pravda, so it's probably a lie, regardless, I couldn't find any evidence of my claim being true, so I'll say I was misinformed. This doesn't change the many proven examples of Israelis committing hate crimes throughout Israel, Palestine, and other countries.

You are also forgetting that Israel attacked those 5 countries after the majority of them attacked Israel first.

Israel attacked Iran first. Israel invaded Syria first. Israel attacked Lebanon first. The only attack where Israel wasn't first was Hamas.

The Houthis attacked Israel without being attacked first, so why are you making excuses for those other countries?

Because Israel has shown how much contempt they have for Arabs, Muslims, and really everyone, and is genociding Palestinians while the world watches and does nothing.

Every soldier the Houthis pay to handle missiles is a soldier unpaid to distribute food.

Are you assuming that Houthis can just make food magically appear? You can't just pay someone to hand out food if you don't have enough food. Money also doesn't just turn into food when you have Saudi Arabia, the US, and occasionally Israel stopping food from getting there or bombing you.

Do you think it’s morally righteous to sacrifice Yemeni civilians for ineffective attacks against Israel?

Who is sacrificing who? The civilians are in their homes. Why is Israel attacking random homes? Israel could just stop committing a genocide and maybe they wouldn't get bombed.

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

China is oppressing millions of people?

Sorry, I meant China is oppressing a billion people.. Even more reason for the Houthis to bomb than rather than Israel, right?

Israel not allowing poor Jews into shelters

Source?

Source?

If the Houthis can attack Israel, a nuclear first-world nation, then they can attack any country they want to.

Israel attacked Iran first

Iran bankrolls Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. Do you think that makes them uninvolved in this war?

Israel attacked Syria first

During the Assad rule, Syria was providing material support for Hezbollah. After Assad’s fall, then indeed Syria wasn’t officially an enemy of Israel anymore (although both countries still never signed any peace agreement since the 1973 war) but Syria arguably could still pose a threat to Israel in the future, which is was they were still attacked. Dubiously justified, but then again, same as Houthis attacking Israel.

Israel attacked Lebanon first

Quite literally wrong, Hezbollah attacked Israel first in October 8th, 2023.

Are you assuming Houthis can just make food magically appear?

No magic needed, they just need to invest their resources into providing welfare for their people rather than attacking Israel. Riddle me this - if Saudi Arabia is to blame for all of Yemen’s problems, why aren’t the Houthis attacking them instead of Israel, which never interacted with Yemen prior to this war?

This war will be going on for 3 years in a few months and nothing the Houthis did has stopped the war in Gaza. Is this really worth the investment for them? Think about this. Assad’s Syria fell because Hezbollah was too busy fighting Israel. Iran just came out of a war with Israel with zero support from Hezbollah or the Houthis, despite bankrolling them for decades. Seems it’s more risky for Yemen to continue this war rather than it is for Israel.

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SurturOfMuspelheim@reddit

Sorry, I meant China is oppressing a billion people.. Even more reason for the Houthis to bomb than rather than Israel, right?

Please provide an actual source and not a page that just makes a bunch of claims (Many of which don't show what you claim it does.)

Source?

Israel not allowing poor Jews into shelters: https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-israeli-shelters-exclude-palestinians-205222290.html

“We went to the new part of Lydd where there are proper shelters,” Yara said, adding that her 48-year-old mother, who suffers from weak knees, was struggling to move. “Yet, they wouldn’t let us in. Jews from poorer areas were also turned away. It was only for the ‘new residents’ — those in the modern buildings, mostly middle-class Jewish families.”

If the Houthis can attack Israel, a nuclear first-world nation, then they can attack any country they want to.

Lol? Missiles don't all have unlimited range, you understand that, correct? Houthis missiles have an estimated max range of around 2,000km.

Iran bankrolls Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis. Do you think that makes them uninvolved in this war?

Only Hamas attacked first. Does that mean Israel attacked itself, too?

Quite literally wrong, Hezbollah attacked Israel first in October 8th, 2023.

Now answer this, did Israel only attack Hezbollah?

they just need to invest their resources into providing welfare for their people rather than attacking Israel.

Again, money doesn't turn into food magically.

Riddle me this - if Saudi Arabia is to blame for all of Yemen’s problems, why aren’t the Houthis attacking them instead of Israel, which never interacted with Yemen prior to this war?

Ask them that, it's irrelevant to the conversation.

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Zorboids@reddit

Only Hamas attacked first. Does that mean Israel attacked itself, too?

Hamas actually didn't attack first, Oct. 7th was due to months of the zionist regime bombing Gaza (they were literally bombing them as recently as 2 weeks before Oct. 7th) and the deadly raids in the West Bank (articles from before Oct 7th show that 2023 up to then was the deadliest year for Palestinians in the West Bank).

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

Please provide an actual source

Is this a better source?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/17/not-for-you-israeli-shelters-exclude-palestinians-as-bombs-rain-down

Please provide an actual source and not a page that just makes a bunch of claims.

See how easy it is?

Does it mean Israel attacked itself?

If Israel supported Hamas (to efficiently divide and conquer Palestinians, might I add) why are you supporting them too?

Did Israel only attack Hezbollah?

In Lebanon? Yes. By Hezbollah’s own admission.

money doesn’t turn into food magically

There’s no magic needed. Just will. The Houthis are making a conscious choice to attack Israel rather than care for their citizens.

Ask them that

Right, so again, Houthis are intentionally attacking a country that never hurt them rather than the one responsible for their suffering.

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Zorboids@reddit

Sorry, I meant China is oppressing a billion people.. Even more reason for the Houthis to bomb than rather than Israel, right?

lol, now you believe amnesty? What about when they called your regime an apartheid state, you agree with them there too?

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Tasgall@reddit

Didn't some Israeli guy just body slam a toddler in Russia? You don't hear about Russians doing that.

Immigrant needs to adopt to the local culture, in Russia he should be throwing that toddler out of a high window. For shame, for shame.

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WhiteHartLaneFan@reddit

Iran isn’t invading anyone? What? Do you not understand that they are the main backers of these proxy militias? That’s like saying Russia didn’t attack anyone in the Cold War while pretending they didn’t fully support many of the global conflicts that they helped instigate see Korea, Vietnam, etc…

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SurturOfMuspelheim@reddit

Iran isn’t invading anyone? What?

Correct, Iran is currently not invading anyone.

Do you not understand that they are the main backers of these proxy militias?

They backed Hezbollah and to an extant the Houthis. Neither are invading anyone and neither are Iran.

That’s like saying Russia didn’t attack anyone in the Cold War

Russia was not an independent state in the cold war.

global conflicts that they helped instigate see Korea, Vietnam, etc…

The Nazi genocide was meticulously planned and executed, especially when they had to fight a world war at the same time and only had access to 1940s technology to do so. Israel is fighting with modern tools, mostly against Hamas, yet somehow despite committing genocide hasn’t been able to eradicate two million people in a tiny strip of land for nearly three years by now. Do you think Israel is incapable of killing all Gazans? Because I think circumstances show Israel is unwilling.

They’re fighting for Gazans

Is empathy more important than self-preservation? How many Yemenis are you willing to sacrifice on the altar of Gaza, since you apparently think Gazans are a superior race?

The people in Yemen suffer from both lack of human rights (by their own Houthi government) and by lack of resources (caused by both the Houthis’ enemies and the Houthis’ unwillingness to care for their people). Shouldn’t they concern themselves with themselves first, rather than others?

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Assassinduck@reddit

Absolute pathetic Israeli exceptionalism.

No one can pressure Israel to not starve Gaza out, if Israel actually acted upon it.

Everyone knows they are just doing it for the love of the game.

Again, why is Israel giving the people they’re genociding designated aid sites in the first place? Because gunning them down evidently isn’t killing enough to put a dent in Gaza’s population.

I mean, they aren't. Thay have banned importing everything, down to baby-formula, and are only allowing untrained and kill-happy mercs, and a shitton of Bloodthirsty Israeli Zionists, to "give out aid".

Any war crimes committed by Israel are a response to October 7th’s war crimes by Hamas. It’s simple cause and effect.

Absolute deranged equation, and genocide apologia. Any war-crimes committed by Hamas on October 7th, needs to be looked at through the lense of an oppressed people fighting a just fight against its occupiers.

The Nazi genocide was meticulously planned and executed, especially when they had to fight a world war at the same time and only had access to 1940s technology to do so. Israel is fighting with modern tools, mostly against Hamas, yet somehow despite committing genocide hasn’t been able to eradicate two million people in a tiny strip of land for nearly three years by now. Do you think Israel is incapable of killing all Gazans? Because I think circumstances show Israel is unwilling.

I fucking love this, "genocide is only genocide if it's against the jews, and if its the 40s again" . It's genocide, you Zionist mouthbreather, take it up with every single humanitarian org on the planet, and every single scholar, even the Israeli ones. Your entire argument rests on the tried and true "if we wanted to kill them in a day, we could, and that's why it's not genocide.. Please do not realize that calling the Holocaust a genocide becomes impossible with my own standards".

Is empathy more important than self-preservation? How many Yemenis are you willing to sacrifice on the altar of Gaza, since you apparently think Gazans are a superior race?

This projection coming from an ISRAELI, of all fucking people, is absolutely hysterical. Dawg, you and your culture are the spiritual successor of every single ethno-nationalist ideology, especially the nazis. It's the closes thing we have to fascism being encoded into an entire culture, intentionally.

The people in Yemen suffer from both lack of human rights (by their own Houthi government) and by lack of resources (caused by both the Houthis’ enemies and the Houthis’ unwillingness to care for their people). Shouldn’t they concern themselves with themselves first, rather than others?

You Israelis would love it if everyone just stopped looking. If you could just get to do your little Cecil Rhodes' great adventure 2: Electric Boogaloo, in peace.

Unfortunately for you, people actually have empathy, no matter how hard liberal ideology tries to scrub it out of us.

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Leather-Paramedic-10@reddit (OP)

Do you think Jews are more important than Arabs?

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That may be a motivating factor for sure. But I don't know much of the details.

So do you think the genocide is a good thing?

I do not think it is humiliation that is preventing Hamas from accepting defeat. I would think many of them are religious extremists and see victory as a religious requirement, similar to zionists who think Abars are inferior and should be murdered or expelled from their "Promised Land". For a land that is supposed to be blessed, sacred, and god-given, there has been a lot of innocent blood spillied on it in its name.

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

Apparently I did misunderstand you. I argued thinking your opinion of Hamas is more favorable than what you just said.

I don’t think there’s a genocide. War crimes, yes, and they are bad to say the least, but I disagree that it’s specifically at genocidal magnitude. Admittedly, I may change my mind in the future once the casualties of the war are clearer. Currently I think it’s just an unnecessarily brutal war, from Israel’s side.

Avoiding sarcasm, both sides here are religious extremists indeed, but the problem is that Israel is the more powerful one. In a just world Israel would use their superior power reasonably, but sadly that’s not the case. Despite that, Israel and Hamas are still at an impasse: Israel is hoping to either defeat enough of Hamas or destroy enough of Gaza to declare victory, while Hamas is hoping to survive long enough until Israel’s citizens are too war-weary to continue supporting the war or international pressure mounts on Israel to stop the war. Since the two sides prefer playing the waiting game rather than compromising on a solution, we are forced to wait with them.

Which is why if I had to be honest, all the arguement about the Houthis’ involvement are ultimately background noise.

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Leather-Paramedic-10@reddit (OP)

The below seems to contradict your assessment that there is no genocide happening. And if you do in fact do no agree that this is a genocide, please know that many organization and experts disagree with you. There is genocidal intent by many in Israel, including many high profille officials, regardless of whether you think Israel has killed enough Palestinians to constitute genocide.

Anyway, there’s no hypotheticals needed: Israel is committing GENOCIDE in Gaza. You know what genocide means? It means Israel is killing every single Gazans until there are none remaining. I think it’s imperative Hamas surrenders and frees the hostages before there are zero Palestinians left in the strip. Humiliation is less bad than death, wouldn’t you agree?

According to a United Nations Special Committee, Amnesty International, and other experts, Israel is committing genocide in Gaza against the Palestinians during its ongoing invasion and bombing as part of the Gaza war. The acts of genocide described by experts and human rights organisations include large-scale killing, use of starvation as a weapon of war, destruction of civilian infrastructure, attacks on healthcare workers, and forced displacement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

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frizzykid@reddit

Expected after the sinking of that tanker yesterday

But Idk what the point is beyond wasting money. This doesn't send a message, if it did they'd stop doing it. The fact that the houthis have survived a year of airstrikes and a peace treaty with the US, it's only emboldened the houthis further

Israel is unironically making a larger problem for themselves by dropping bombs on mountains that create piles of rubble but don't actually accomplish anything substantive.

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TrueBigorna@reddit

I doubt this will have any effect in anything. The Yemenis are battle hardened, The US airstrikes couldn't do anything and then just quietly backed away. The Saudi have been trying for years on ground operations and haven't achieved much. Netanyahu and co. are probably just posing to domestic audiences as "doing something about it".

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fudgemental@reddit

Netanyahu and co. are probably just posing to domestic audiences as "doing something about it"

Nah, Nitinyahu may have just gotten fresh summons from court for the corruption trials and suddenly there's a new target

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

Except Israel isn’t trying to do counterinsurgency in Yemen like Saudi Arabia did, it’s trying to suppress the Houthis’ ability to attack them. Do you think the Houthis have an infinite amount of missiles to launch at Israel?

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AdditionalMeat1775@reddit

Regrettably, for Israel, the continued harm to women and children will be seen as an indicator of success in their operations.

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Soldier-Of-Dance@reddit

China and Iran are oppressing millions of people. If being a bad country is justified as a reason to attack, then the Houthis should attack them too, right?

No country on earth is too far for the Houthis’ missiles. You are spreading Israeli propaganda by claiming the Houthis are too weak to attack Russia.

Can I have proof by the way the toddler slammer from Russia was Israeli? You guys forgot to provide it when it appended, so I’d be glad if you could now. You wouldn’t lie about that, would you?

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lostinspacs@reddit

The Houthis effectively use guerilla tactics but they have no real counter to the destruction of key infrastructure like ports, power plants, oil depots, etc. Maybe the US wasn’t willing to do it but Israel certainly won’t care.

Crushing their finances and the finances of Iran is a great strategy.

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empleadoEstatalBot@reddit

Israel launches strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen

Israel says it has launched strikes on Houthi targets in three Yemeni ports, including the western port of Hudaydah, Ras Isa and Saif.

The attacks come shortly after the Israeli military issued evacuation orders for civilians in the areas, warning of imminent air strikes.

Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz confirmed on social media the strikes on the Houthi-controlled sites including a power station and a ship that was hijacked by the group two years ago.

Houthi-run media in Yemen said the strikes hit the port of Hudaydah, but no further details were provided on damage or casualties.

Katz said the strikes were part of "Operation Black Flag" and warned that the Houthis "will continue to pay a heavy price for their actions".

"The fate of Yemen is the same as the fate of Tehran. Anyone who tries to harm Israel will be harmed, and anyone who raises a hand against Israel will have their hand cut off," he said in a post on X.

Since the start of the Israel-Hamas war, the Iran-backed Houthi rebels have regularly launched missiles at Israel in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza and attacked commercial ships in the Red Sea.

The Israeli Air Force said the latest strikes on Yemen's ports were in response to "repeated attacks" by the Houthis on Israel and its citizens.

It added that the targeted ports were being used to "transfer weapons from the Iranian regime to carry out terror plans" against Israel and its allies.

Shortly after the attack, Houthis confirmed its air defences had confronted Israel's strikes with missiles, according to Reuters news agency.

Among the targets was a commercial ship the Galaxy Leader seized by the group in November 2023, which Israel said was being used to monitor maritime vessels in international waters.

The Ras Kanatib power station which supplies electricity to the nearby cities of Ibb and Taizz, was also hit, Israel said.

This latest attack on Hudaydah comes after Israeli navy ships struck targets in the port city last month.

Hudaydah port, which is the main entry point for food and other humanitarian aid for millions of Yemenis, has been the target of several Israeli strikes in the past year.

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