My extensive 992.1 911 Carrera 4S Review
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Plastic_Willow734@reddit
I’m personally a Cayman guy and honestly I’d much rather own a Z51 C8 than a 992 Carrera S but I really think you just don’t like 911’s that much if at all my man
TotallyNotATrap@reddit
Owned a C8 Z51. If the 992 didn't come in stick, I would still own the C8. Both great cars but very different experiences. Ultimately depends on what you value and what the rest of your garage looks like.
eaglerulez@reddit (OP)
Haha it's possible!
I actually did like the car the more I drove it. I just found that the hype wasn't really in line with what the driving experience actually is. Likewise I feel like the price premium is potentially a little hard to justify on these cars.
RespectCommon7019@reddit
Bro damn that’s a huge review
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hi_im_bored13@reddit
Good review
I think for a lot of people its not response but rather linearity and delivery, with NA its constant for a given input, with turbo you add another variable that is influenced but not direct to your throttle, its like having a 2d vs. 3d table in your head.
Of course turbo designs have significantly improved over the past few decades and the 911 in particular has a design that is more than linear enough but it still stands true in some capacity for cheaper models
Can't say I've experienced that, especially in the sportier drive modes, if anything it was too much of a kick (and I believe they turned down the sport+ tuning)
Same with the suspension, if anything I found it too compliant on my old 911. It was incredibly comfortable yet well tracked for what was supposed to be a track-oriented car (gt3)
This is annecdotal but most of the new 911 owners I know have it as either their only car or their only sports car, and get a new one on lease like clockwork. Not everyone has the space, time, etc. for multiple cars, now I have to deal with maintaining and insuring 3 instead of 1
I don't think its really fair to compare new vs. used regardless, as you can just buy a used 911 as well for cheaper or a higher trim for the same money as new
IMO this is kind of what explains the steering, suspension, "floaty" feel etc. Its almost like they set out to make objectively the best car every time. Its not my cup of tea nowadays nor is it reasonable for most folks when the C8 is around. But I do think despite the competition time and time again they slightly edge everyone out.
Not on value, if you want that just get a c8 z51, but I'm not surprised in the slightest why people love the targa4 so much, somehow porsche always threads that line between gt and sportscar better than anyone else.
eaglerulez@reddit (OP)
Really good insights across the board!
I do agree if you have the money, the 911 can make a lot of sense. Likewise I totally agree with you on it being a great "only car" or "only sports car" thanks to how versatile it is.
Since I'm currently looking for something that's really good at road tripping so far the 911 has checked the most boxes.
JimmyGodoppolo@reddit
This isn't true for the US market of 992. They're going at MSRP even 4-5 years old, it's nuts.
BigMeatyProlapse@reddit
"I really haven’t been a fan of the ICE Porsche cars I’ve driven"
Are you trolling? Are you 12? Both?
eaglerulez@reddit (OP)
I mean I drove the base 4 cylinder Cayman which isn't exactly the star of Porsche's lineup. Likewise I just didn't like the 997.2 turbo all that much when I drove it, to me it felt way too muted and understated.
I'm not saying that Porsche's ICE cars are bad, just that I didn't like the two I had driven.
Th3WeirdingWay@reddit
Takeaway: 911s (Porsche?) aren’t worth the money they are commanding. At least in the US. ///M > Porsche. I could buy two of my G8x BMWs for one decently speced 911. It’s ridiculous. 911s are for geriatrics anyway that can only drive to cars and coffee. 🤣
Mumphord123@reddit
Don’t let the glazers on here see this you’ll get banned
to_the_victors_91@reddit
Great review. Felt like a good glimpse into the 911 from a non-fan perspective.
JimmyGodoppolo@reddit
When you talk about the PDK having a mushy response, it doesn't. It has a lag between actuating the paddles and it shifting, and the paddles themselves (on non GT/RS versions) aren't very tactile.
M Engineering offers a PDK tune that makes the engine actually respond when you pull the paddles, and you can get RS Magnesium paddles for like $600. Completely different experience.
But you can't judge a "mushy" transmission when you are operating it in faux-manual mode. In true automatic mode, the PDK is unmatched.
eaglerulez@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the insight! I do agree the pdk is great in automatic mode! Was mainly talking about manual mode.
Did you do the pdk tune on your carrera s?
JimmyGodoppolo@reddit
I didn't as I traded it in for the GT3, but if I hadn't I 100% would have. I had the M Eng tune and Soul high flow cats & valved exhaust and those were worth every penny.
I did do the RS paddles, and that helped *a lot*.
eaglerulez@reddit (OP)
Got it! How does the touring feel in terms of power delivery compared to your tuned 992 S?
Elegast-Racing@reddit
I stopped reading after " I really haven’t been a fan of the ICE Porsche cars I’ve driven" I'm all for EV but let's be real.
Spaghetto23@reddit
r/cars when someone else has a different opinion
Bradymyhero@reddit
Your first couple sentences make me wary of everything you wrote.
Spaghetto23@reddit
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