The EU wants to decrypt your private data by 2030
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VintageGriffin@reddit
This is how "you will own nothing, and be happy about it" policy extends to personal life, any kind of secrets or a dissenting opinion.
If you're not doing anything unlawful then you've got nothing to hide, and thus nothing to worry about. Oh yeah? Tell me the intimate details of your sex life, your income and tax details for year 2024, your political affiliation and what you really think about all of the people you call your close friends.
We'll judge you against our image of a model citizen, stockpile that data, and then leak it later for everyone to see in an event of gross negligence or incompetence.
pimmen89@reddit
I agree with what you wrote, but when it comes to income and tax details that has been public in the Nordic countries for about a century, and I wouldn't have it any other way. The idea that a politician running for office can just refuse to share that stuff is so foreign to me, same thing with CEOs for billion dollar companies. I gladly share my income and tax details to live in a country where I can look up those same details of my prime minister, without him not even getting notified when I check it out.
roy1979@reddit
You are being naive if you think they don't have overseas bank accounts which would never reflect in those records.
pimmen89@reddit
They do, and that immediately becomes a major strike against them when they run for office anytime a journalist finds them. They can’t say ”well, what does it matter?” because it makes such a major difference.
And when it comes to actually getting that money back into their country so that they can invest in a company, buy property, consume anything, or even withdraw pension there is no escape. It’s impossible for it not to be disclosed to the public.
roy1979@reddit
There are many ways to do it like using investment banking or private equity, registered in countries where your names aren't listed out. Compared to other countries, I agree that Scandanavian countries are far better in terms of corruption, but there is no guarantee when things take a turn.
pimmen89@reddit
If you get it in investment banking or private equity in Sweden they still have to disclose the owners of that fund. We don’t have those obscure ways to invest like you see in the US. If a foreign company invests in Sweden, they still need to disclose the people behind that investment.
We’re not immune to corruption, but there is no legal way to buy Swedish property, invest in Swedish businesses or bring money into Sweden without disclosing it on your tax returns if you also live here. If they try and it’s found out, politicians here aren’t immune from prosecution for vreaking those laws. There are no guarantees for anything, but they can’t sleep calmly here if they’re breaking the law.
Now, does this always work? Well, the Panama and Paradise papers showed that some Swedes did try to skirt this around, and they all resigned from their political positions when they were found out.
roy1979@reddit
With that kind of stringent requirements, investors would stay away from Sweden. Good for corruption, bad for growth.
pimmen89@reddit
But they don’t stay away and Stockholm is one of the largest centers for tech in the world, and for the past decade Swedish growth has been better than the average growth in the EU.
roy1979@reddit
That's interesting. Thanks for the information.
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
Let me share the metadata of your groceries list with your health insurance provider so they can make proper adjustments to your monthly payments and recommend dietary restrictions in case you don’t agree in paying an higher fee.
alternaivitas@reddit
my what? confused in EU
Civsi@reddit
Exactly... This is where this all goes eventually.
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
You do have those as well in some northern countries
pimmen89@reddit
If you’re an athlete or something maybe, otherwise 99% of people in the Nordic countries do not. Which ”northern” countries are you thinking of?
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
The Netherlands have mandatory private health insurance.
blorg@reddit
With fixed coverage that costs the same for everyone regardless of their health issues.
Ill-Mousse-3817@reddit
> With fixed coverage that costs the same for everyone regardless of their age or health issues, and a mandate that insurers have to accept everyone at that price
It is already like this in the US as well...
blorg@reddit
And it's €149/month, with children covered free under their parents contribution. Plus low-income people have the premiums subsidised up to 90% by the government- 30% of the population doesn't pay the full €149.
vs $8,951/year individual, with family coverage averaging $25,572 in the US.
The Dutch system is predominantly government-regulated and funded. It is predominantly run on a non-profit basis; both insurers and hospitals are predominantly non-profit. Finally, most of the spending on Dutch healthcare still comes from the government out of taxes, not the insurance; the insurance only pays about 20% of the cost.
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/international-health-policy-center/countries/netherlands
It's only the same on the most basic level of both systems have private health insurers. But many systems have private health insurers.
Many European countries do have this idea where people do pay for healthcare, this isn't just the Netherlands. Single payer like they have in the UK is not the rule, I know that. I'm from Ireland, we pay for healthcare as well but again, most of the system is non-profit and heavily subsidised by the government. We have private health insurers too although they are not strictly necessary. The actual payments are fixed amounts and are a tiny fraction of the cost of the service, and again is both capped with a maximum and 30-40% of the population get it free because they are either low income or elderly.
Many other systems like this. They aren't all single payer, free at the point of care. They aren't the same as the US because people have to pay a token amount towards their healthcare.
Brekkjern@reddit
That sucks for the Netherlands then. Imagine if they were a Nordic country though.
Brillegeit@reddit
Here in Norway everyone I know that work for private businesses using a STEM degree (e.g. engineers) have private health insurance provided by their employer. This so you'll be able to see a GP the same day and get an MR or see a specialist in <5 days instead of the 1-5 month waiting time in the public health system. The same with surgery where waiting time is on average 7 times longer in the public system, and could be over a year in worst case situations, while it's within 10 days with private insurance.
El_Don_94@reddit
Many of the EU countries have private health insurance.
NorthernerWuwu@reddit
Typically what Americans would consider to be semi-private or at least very heavily regulated. Universal coverage is pretty much a given.
El_Don_94@reddit
In some countries public health care is so bad that you're better off getting private. Public isn't an everybody thing, more a lower income thing unless you're going to am E.D. or something small.
NorthernerWuwu@reddit
Name one that is not the US of A.
El_Don_94@reddit
Ireland.
NorthernerWuwu@reddit
I have Irish friends, they bitch about the healthcare (as does everyone) but are you seriously trying to tell me that there exists a single Irish person alive that would rather the American healthcare system over their own?
Bullshit.
El_Don_94@reddit
No. Because I didn't say that.
Elukka@reddit
Or a hybrid system where the insurance is mandatory bdut the prices and conditions are better regulated than in the US. There are many ways to skin a cat.
TheBlack2007@reddit
Replace greedy American corporations by government agencies or public organizations. Wouldn’t really matter much for this.
MaisUmCaraAleatorio@reddit
As surprising as that may seem to US citizens you can make predatory business practices illegal.
BufferUnderpants@reddit
Just because crime is illegal it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
MaisUmCaraAleatorio@reddit
Not sure what your point is.
If a health insurance provider does something illegal, you can sue them.
Ill-Mousse-3817@reddit
So, how did your lawsuits against social media companies go? I am sure you got a lot of money in compensation.
MaisUmCaraAleatorio@reddit
Never sued a Social Media Company. I do know, however, that Twitter paid millions in fines after Elon's little tantrum, if that what you were talking about.
Ill-Mousse-3817@reddit
That's very good. I am sure millions in fines will stop billion dollar revenues companies from breaking the rules
MaisUmCaraAleatorio@reddit
Are you being petulant for no good reason? Twitter doesn't make billions in Brazil; millions in fine is actually a sizable fraction of its revenue in the country, and the fine wasn't the important part; that was just a slap in the wrist. What was important was the company obeying Brazil's judiciary. And guess what twitter decided to do, after they were blocked from one of their top markets?
BlueSkies5Eva@reddit
Only if you find out
bodhiquest@reddit
You can always set up independent auditor groups or something like that. Neutral compliance control is the one field that's desperately necessary in pretty much every field in life but is equally lacking.
MyNameIsHaines@reddit
That would not fall under what law enforcement is interested in. I would be all for giving up privacy so that pedophile rings can be easily uncovered for example.
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
Who police the police?
Ill-Mousse-3817@reddit
The pedophiles. Also called politicians.
MyNameIsHaines@reddit
Internal affairs or equivalent. And in the end the justice system.
re_carn@reddit
And I don't. Pedophiles should be caught, but please do it without destroying the privacy of the entire population. And I'm sick of the “it's for the children!” excuse being used over and over again to limit freedom.
braiam@reddit
That's already covered by financial secrecy laws. We are talking about income, not spending.
lonelytoes235@reddit
And already taken and sold by clubcard, nectar, etc etc
pimmen89@reddit
I don’t have a health insurance provider because Sweden. But nope, I wouldn’t share that with you, but you’re free to check out my income and tax details without me even getting a notification about it. Not all data is equal.
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
Data is data, is never working in your favor
pimmen89@reddit
I’m not saying that it’s in my favor to disclose my income and tax details, I’m saying that it’s in my favor to be able to lool up the income and tax details of my country’s politicians and business executives. Disclosing my income and tax details too is the price I have to pay so that there are no loopholes around it for them.
kenpus@reddit
Sadly that's not what is being proposed in ProtectEU
pimmen89@reddit
Yeah, everything about ProtectEU blows. I really hope that the court in Strasbourg grows a spine and strikes this shit down, since encryption was judged to be a human right by them in a previous case
5hiftC0ntr0l@reddit
I agree and support the transparency but it’s always transparency for us and privacy for them.
re_carn@reddit
I have no reason to hide my data, but I also have no reason to reveal it. I like to keep them encrypted just in case of misuse by providers.
happy_bluebird@reddit
almost like... you'd like to have the choice?
Winjin@reddit
Yeah we have nothing to hide... Up until some far right populist party becomes the rulers in charge
See: chega in Portugal. It was a leftist country for decades until it's not
Triglycerine@reddit (OP)
Yeah a lot of policy Positions people have are predicated upon the idea that they'll be in charge of the boot.
Rule of thumb: Don't give the government power if you wouldn't want Nicolas Maduro/Donald Trump/Xi Xinping/Benjamin Netanjahu/whoever else you personally consider an overreaching asshole in your personal worldview to have that kind of power.
Because those things can happen SUPER fucking fast.
DOGE could unilaterally close multiple government agencies overnight because of powers Obama vested in its predecessor.
Etc.
amazingD@reddit
The same power you give to a leader today who you love will be used against you tomorrow by a leader who you hate.
re_carn@reddit
I almost agree, just about any “far” party can set this up, of which Reddit is a very good example.
Winjin@reddit
It doesn't have to be specifically this, but the problem is that, for example, any country that suddenly gains a Religious Zealotry Party will be bombarded with "sex is sin" and "porn is a capital offence" messages and they'll be demanding access to this non stop - at first only for "fellow believers" but they NEVER stop there, do they?
Chega wants to deport every immigrant, or at the very least, every "dangerous" immigrant. So the same as Trump they just want to round up literally everyone who isn't a born Portugal citizen, rife through their stuff, and kick them out for anything they deem that they don't like.
So if being part of r/PORTUGALCYKABLYAT is "culturally offensive" they can use it now. If you're a German citizen whos parents are Muslim, it means you're subject to the Morality Police as well.
Sure there are probably some benefits, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
iDoomfistDVA@reddit
I have a shit ton of stuff to hide(:
LeGrandLucifer@reddit
The fact that you still believe it would be an accident means they've still got you.
BabylonianWeeb@reddit
Unironically, the person who quoted that (Ida Auken) is supportive of surveillance laws that violate peoole privacy in Denmark.
acegikm02@reddit
Wouldn't the government already know your income/tax details and political affiliation
qjxj@reddit
qjxj@reddit
We've got nothing to hide, however their Bilderberg and Davos meetings must remain under secrecy.
Bloody_Ozran@reddit
That ain't going to end well and I don't think majority of Europeans will like this. How can we have good consumer protections but also our private data can be accessed when they decide it is ok to do so?
That said, doesn't Israel have some crazy spying system, that EU could just buy if they want to anyway?
Triglycerine@reddit (OP)
The EU is designed to prevent citizen displeasure from affecting the lawmakers in charge.
They can afford not to care.
Plus they handpick people who love overreach. Ursula van der Leyen's entire career prior to being put at the head of the EU was being a censorious Karen that tried to ban entire albums and websites for being too lewd.
tomoyat1@reddit
Backdoors regardless of the reason they are added can inherently be abused by bad actors with enough effort. This is a bad move for cybersecurity, aside from all of the usual ideological arguments.
Ill-Mousse-3817@reddit
Mmm, but what if we make a backdoor in the backdoor and give it to the good guys?
dontthink19@reddit
Reading this article makes me think about a modern day patriot act from the US after 9/11. Except this time its the EU. The US is already cooked and if this bill passes, then im loosely assuming the EU will end up like current USA in like 20 or so years. And that's if shit doesn't hit the fan in a bigly way
shr1n1@reddit
As long as it is court directed and under its oversight this should be fine. Everybody who has knee jerk reaction saying that govt will have blanket access and back door access is wrong.
Every access request should accompanied by lawful court order. Just like all the disclosure request in analogue world.
AbstractButtonGroup@reddit
shr1n1@reddit
If it is under Law of land then it is lawful whether you agree or have different opinion on that.
By asking to disclose data and encrypted keys or passwords or decrypted data. This is same as testifying under penalty of perjury. Same as you have to surrender paper records when court demands under warrant. Refusing or destroying evidence is crime in itself currently.
If there is lawful disclosure demand then there is no need of back doors . It is only when there is resistance to lawful demands then govts try to justify unfettered access and back doors and create laws that make it legal.
Criminals can steal now and they do it all the time using social engineering or hacking or using ransomware. No back doors needed.
AbstractButtonGroup@reddit
There had never been a judicial mistake or overreach and corrupt judges only happen in bad tales?
Forcing people to testify against themselves is an abusive practice that is illegal in most of the world (at least where they are trying to maintain at least the looks of law and justice).
There is a difference. Paper record is just a paper. One instance of. It can be taken and it can be returned. A scan or copy of a paper does not hold the same weight as the original. But with electronic documents every copy is as good as the original and can be used later without your knowledge. Furthermore, during the 'search' all your data on the thing being 'searched' is irreversibly compromised - e.g. all your private keys, all your certificates, etc. Even the device itself cannot be fully trusted once it has been out of your control.
Who gets to say if the demands are lawful? What if a court later determines they were unlawful?
Sure they are. But opening another treasure trove for them is perhaps not how you improve safety of your citizens.
PomegranateHot9916@reddit
I guess the only thing keeping them from taking away all your online privacy was their inability to effectively process the extremely large amount of data on the internet.
Now that "AI" (its not ai but okay) technology has been refined enough to be seemingly consistent in its output (which it isn't) the people in power decided it is now easy enough that they want to do it.
I can't accept this unless every politician in EU and EU countries freely expose ALL of their online activities to the public. which they would never do of course. they'd risk losing their comfortable jobs.
Raygereio5@reddit
It's probably more accurate to say that the people in power have been convinced by grifters. Even if these tools will actually be made, they're not going to do anything really useful for law enforcement and spying agencies. At least nothing that existing solutions could already accomplish.
But some folks are going to walk away with a metric fuckton of money.
yoberf@reddit
Don't believe that AI tools won't do something useful for law enforcement. They will be used to generate false positives that create probable cause for officers to seize and search random citizens.
Raygereio5@reddit
AI won't do anything that cops can't already do. If a cop wants to search your shit, they can just do that. Who is going to stop them? Themselves?
AbstractButtonGroup@reddit
The difference is performance. Cops can target people one at a time, so if you want to cover everyone you need a lot of cops (and then who is watching the cops?).
That's exactly the point. A cop can randomly search you once or twice if you are lucky. But the AI will be searching everyone, all the time.
kimana1651@reddit
It's like when everyone thought the cloud was some magical solution. The cloud is just other peoples servers and AI is just other peoples code. It's not magic.
Correct oversight, public information, and governmental exceptions are issues that are certinly not going to be fixed anytime soon.
NetworkLlama@reddit
There are a lot of services that most people should not be running on their own. Email servers are toward the top of that list. SMTP is arguably the best protocol we have for email, but it's also 43 years old, and the number of bolt-on measures to secure it is astounding. Plus, you need to publish SPF and DKIM records if you want the big ones to accept your mail, and DMARC may be required soon. There are services that will help you on those, but if you're really doing it yourself, then you have to manage your own DNS, too, and that's its own mess. None of that is useful for the average user.
The best route is to go with someone that you find trustworthy and ethical. Start with Proton or Tuta and work from there.
kimana1651@reddit
The cloud has its place, and so does AI, but people treat these things when they are first released as a cure all for all problems.
NetworkLlama@reddit
I was there when cloud services arrived. They were not treated as cure alls. They were instead treated with skepticism, and they took time to ramp up. Outages were frequent, scaling was a problem, and costs were uncertain. It took most of a decade for the transition to cloud services like we think of them now.
AI was greeted more openly and with more excitement, but even as I see greater proliferation of services, I see growing skepticism about the utility of those services and a realization of the limits. Already, the major providers are falling short of their promises, and those who rely too heavily on AI are frequently derided and ridiculed. There are certainly benefits, but I think those who rely on them too heavily to do all the work are going to start falling behind soon.
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
People should very worried about what Peter Thiel is up to. He’s extremely dangerous and absolutely clear on his intentions
snowflake37wao@reddit
Everything the EU has been doing for that last five years regarding tech and data was looking so progressive from over here across the lake until recently. Like what happened, which lobby for who got their foot in the door? This is like the opposite direction private data was heading for the EU right? Up until last year I was starting to think with the rate rate yall were going in terms of catching up to the digital world that just maybe some of the consumer protections, private data, and choice control could cascade and reel in big tech even indirectly over here. But even if the wait got extended by a guaranteed four more years now its looking like EU regulations I dont think I want shared with US too. The misled age verification nonsense. The big brother surveillance. Instead of the EU rubbing off on US, in just six months it seems more like the US is rubbing off on EU, again. The WWW is fucked. Thanks for USB-C though I guess.
ParagonRenegade@reddit
EU is not beating the allegations
sirs, I would much prefer to not eat ze bug
Any kind of infringement on people’s privacy or anonymity online should be universally opposed.
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
Aren’t right wing politicians the ones pushing hardest for these
takecare60@reddit
Both "rightwingers" and the so called Western "left" are all neoliberals obeying the same masters
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
Very cool how anti-privacy is acceptable in the EU
Very cool
Also wow I didn’t know the EPP and ECR aren’t right wing
huysocialzone@reddit
They are generally center-right to right-wing.
In these kind of things, it is generally the far right and the left that oppose it the most.
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
Very cool how anti-privacy is acceptable in the EU
Very cook
Levitz@reddit
Everyone I know who wants control by the state is a leftist. A lot, a whole fucking lot of people disparage fascism because of the right-wing stuff, not because of the authoritarian stuff.
You can see them all through Reddit too, the bunch of dumbfucks who think that fascism is when no immigration.
ParagonRenegade@reddit
It’s the EU Commission
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
Aren’t most of its members part of the EPP and ECR? Doesn’t it answer to the EU Parliament?
ParagonRenegade@reddit
Those are completely in line with liberalism, what do you mean?
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
The EPP isn’t right-of-center? Wow, Von der Layen's anti-wolf conservative views are left-of-center now
ParagonRenegade@reddit
wtf are you talking about? I never mentioned the political affiliations of the Europeans passing this legislation.
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
“I never mentioned affiliations, I merely repeated a right-wing conspiracy theory! I will not eat the bugs!”
ParagonRenegade@reddit
It's a joke and sterotype aimed at neoliberals.
And most European parties, the same ones supporting this initiative, support neoliberalism.
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
The only people repeating that unironically are right wing conspiracists, every left-wing person I know who says “Are you ready for ze new vorld order” does so completely ironically and in mockery of people like you
ParagonRenegade@reddit
It's a joke nerd, which should be blatantly obvious. It's making fun of them for doing wonkish but blatantly stupid policy.
What are you even talking about?
KalaiProvenheim@reddit
You of all people calling someone a nerd lmao
It’s not wonkish, it’s straight up just evil with no other thought
re_carn@reddit
When I see leftist politicians actively opposing it, then I'll believe it.
hiddentalent@reddit
"expected to carry out an impact assessment" "Lawmakers seek" "is set to present a Technology Roadmap on encryption to identify and evaluate" "is said to be committed to working" "Lawmakers also seek"
So... nothing is actually happening. There isn't a single concrete action being described. They might "want" to decrypt your data, but there are significant technical challenges along the way. The data that you are currently exchanging uses algorithms that are pretty resilient to breakage unless a massive quantum computer suddenly pops onto the scene (and we're probably decades away from that). Companies are deploying quantum-safe algorithms today in order to get ahead of that. For this effort to mean anything, they'd need to have teams of professional cryptographers working on new algorithms that had some sort of government skeleton key and there would need to be agreement that governments were going to force the use of such algorithms. But none of that is true right now.
angelolidae@reddit
EU is getting more and more autocratic by the day and some still think a federation would be good, a European federation would just be western russia the way things are headed
Alpha272@reddit
The entire world is heading that direction... its kinda sad to look at
Beliriel@reddit
Yeah well democracy well and truly fucked itself because it keeps falling into the tolerance paradox trap and paralyzes itself. Add to that that capitalism is finally eating itself like every other system too (capitalism is just the slowest and most stable but we're out of time with it now)
Kinperor@reddit
Not gonna pretend we're spotless here, in Canada, but at least we don't have some international politicians pushing for Big Brother 2.0 out in the open.
This is the kind of policies that makes me unfavorable to Canada joining the EU, among other things.
qjxj@reddit
It isn't a question of will, many politicians would probably want some form of surveillance. The government just doesn't have the funds for that.
re_carn@reddit
Wow. We've played democracy and privacy long enough; now it's time to say goodbye to them.
And how well it all started: data transfer restrictions to protect EU residents. I wonder how the data retention requirement will work with the right to delete data under GDPR?
E3FxGaming@reddit
It does not work at all. Article 23 GDPR is basically the cope-out for government agencies, that allow them to write legislature that makes it so you don't get your usual GDPR rights if it concerns national security, defense, public security, etc. .
Bad_Ethics@reddit
Set up a bot to send delete requests to every EU member state government every 24 hours. Or 12 hours. Or 1 hour. Or every 60 seconds.
takecare60@reddit
Neoliberal EU snakes show their true colors more and more lately in between their usual PR moves ("OMG USB-C in all mobile phones!") they and their media advertise non-stop to still pretend they care about Europe and the planet in general
aykcak@reddit
To be fair, the people who pushed for USB C or GPDR are not the same people who pushed this
pseudopad@reddit
This is a gift basket for every intelligence agency around the globe. Any backdoors will be discovered by foreign powers, If you think the US and China knows a lot about europeans now, with this shit implemented, they will be having an all you can eat buffet of information. They will know everything.
jtnishi@reddit
This is going to sound odd, but I’ll say this: if they think they can find a way to break the current encryption schemes without forcing providers to modify the schemes to insert a backdoor, I dare them to try, and I wish them the best of luck in trying to succeed.
If the current schemes we have of encryption are actually breakable by nation-state actors in any scale, this is something we the public would actually want to know. The point of the encryption schemes we have is that they shouldn’t be breakable except maybe by quantum computers, and there’s work on quantum resistant encryption anyway.
But in the end, it’s math. If they insert a backdoor somewhere in things like open source software, we’re one data leak away from every hacker on the planet having everyone’s data. But also, good luck avoiding detection.
Apprehensive-Cry3409@reddit
Its over ladies and gentlemen...
2030 is coming and nothing can stop it...
Enjoy these couple of years my fellas because they will be the last to enjoy freedom and some semblance of peace...
Its a big club indeed
ProperResponse6736@reddit
Been digging into this EU encryption thing and it’s pretty fucked when you look at what else they’re doing.
They want to decrypt everyone’s messages by 2030, plus they just passed laws that let them use AI to automatically scan for “disinformation” and “harmful content.” The definitions are vague enough that basically anything could qualify.
The thing that gets me is they’re doing it all under “protecting democracy.” That’s the same line every authoritarian government uses when they want more surveillance powers.
And their new Media Freedom Act? Still allows spyware on journalists for “serious crimes” which could mean whatever they want it to mean.
It’s not like they’re being evil about it. They probably genuinely think they’re protecting people. But they’re building the exact same tools that autocrats use - mass surveillance, automated censorship, broad legal justifications.
Once you build that infrastructure, it doesn’t really matter who’s running it next. Look at Hungary: Orbán uses EU security frameworks to justify going after his critics all the time.
Just feels like everyone’s focused on obvious threats while the EU quietly assembles a surveillance state with “good intentions”.
Nethlem@reddit
German police is already using "predictive policing" software by Palantir.
The only remaining discussion right now is wether police will also get access to everybodies healthcare data too, so Palantir can snorkel that too.
And from that data they allegedly will be able to tell who will commit a crime and who ain't, just like SKYNET is really good at predicting who will become a terrorist.
Sometimes I wonder if certain people read/see dystopian sci-fi, like Minority Report, and don't understand it as the warning it's intended to be, but rather as some kind of manual to follow?
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