[OPTICS] Aimpoint Micro T-2 - NEW Old Stock -- $599

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Knee_High_Cat_Beef@reddit

Are these ainpoint T-2 significantly better than the cheaper holosuns or sig optics at this point?

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TheJarlSteinar@reddit

Holosun has more modern features. Aimpoint is a bit better with NVG's. Durability they are both great.

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Chinazi_counter@reddit

{Durability, Holosun}

Pick one.

"My Holosun holds up just fine." Sure budget more ammo and range time then we'll talk.

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EverThinker@reddit

I shoot into the mid-high 30k round count a year between rifle and pistol - never had any Holosuns go bad on me.

Hell, I have a 515GT mounted to a $27 Amazon special Scalarworks 1.93 on a blowback PCC - been zeroed and has held zero for like 2.5k rounds right now lol

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Knee_High_Cat_Beef@reddit

Yes, but what about the sig T4 and T8? Those are still quite a bit cheaper than Aimpoint T2s

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Chinazi_counter@reddit

Sig is a dirty ass company but I do like my 4T Pro.

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TheJarlSteinar@reddit

I have literally thousands of rounds on multiple holosuns. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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whyintheworldamihere@reddit

Aimpoint is a bit better with NVG's.

I like my AEMS under nods better than my Eotech and Aimpoint.

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NukedForZenitco@reddit

The AEMS glass is far worse than the eotech at everything so that's surprising.

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whyintheworldamihere@reddit

The only thing I've noticed is some fish eye. But I don't review optics for a living. Just shoot in the dark with a bunch of them.

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NukedForZenitco@reddit

Yeah the fisheye is what I hate. The Sig Romeo 8T is my favourite red dot but even it has a very slight tint compared to eotech glass

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Embarrassed-Lie2272@reddit

No, but they’re not so much more expensive that it’s a no brainer anymore either. I like my 4XT Pro a lot but I may have gotten a T2 at this price

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SlightRelationship67@reddit

Unless you use NODZ no. Guys only fap at these because they are Aimpoint.

I had an Eotech EXPS and replaced it with a holosun 515 Gm on scalarworks mount.

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TheRealRaceMiller@reddit

Also because some people dont want to support the PLA.

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Drexx_Redblade@reddit

I'd honestly rather support the CCP than most MIC companies since the MICs are the ones actively screwing us over for that government contract money.

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Not me unless you or relatives have lived in a communist country communist leaders time and time again caused massive human suffering, forced famines, and suppression of individual freedoms. MIC taking some profit over what the CCP has done, I will support non CCP companies all day long.

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Shadez_Actual@reddit

T2's are nice if you shoot 2-gun. When you dump the rifle you can just YEET that thing and know it holds zero. My sig Romeo however couldn't handle the abuse

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NukedForZenitco@reddit

The Sig Romeo 5 is surprisingly durable.

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SlightRelationship67@reddit

My holosun on the scalarworks has been slapped around been through a few classes and no issue a

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whyintheworldamihere@reddit

I replaced my EXPS3 with an AEMS for shooting under nods. I can't tell a difference in light transmission, the Holosun reticle looks better, plus it's always ready with its shake awake and insane battery life.

The single thing Eotech does better is look cleaner when magnified.

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wormraper@reddit

they're built like veritable tanks. the holosuns are good, but their internals are nowhere as stable, and their longevity is still up in the air.

Aimpoints are pricey, but battle proven

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whyintheworldamihere@reddit

This is an argument from a decade ago. Holosuns are plenty durable and well proven in battle at this point.

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wormraper@reddit

sorry, lot of PD's and other duty places are having issues with the 4xx series holosuns right now. some PD's were reporting a 20% failure rate in under 2 years

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whyintheworldamihere@reddit

this has been discussed on ARFcom for the last year or so.

I'm interested in this. Is there a post with department wide data you can link? Something besides an individual complaining? I don't doubt you, I just haven't seen a report on their reliability that's more than individual stories.

Personally I have a few Aimpints, Eotechs and Trijicon dots. And then at least a dozen Holosuns. The I've had 2 failures. One of my EXPS3s delaminated and the windage adjustment stopped clicking and would rotate accidentally. One Comp M4S stopped getting bright enough even with new batteries and all of the contact points cleaned. Zero failures with my Holosuns except for a broken 507k lense that I can't really blame it for. Still worked fine.

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wormraper@reddit

apologies my man, I was getting ready to go to a friend's B-day party and didn't notice my phone had dinged.

It's the big mega "holosun" thread on arfcom's "Optics and sights" section in the tech section. it's pretty spready out and spans a few years. but it's there

and hey man, I'm not kocking them if you got good ones brother. It just seems to have a LOT more problems reported than the time tested Aimpoints, although for HD and range use the Holosuns seem to work REALLY well for their price point.

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Wu_tang_dan@reddit

long time arfcom user, the only tech section I know the the tech support for the site. what are you talking about? also I'm retarded so that might be it.

put up a link please

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unforgiverii@reddit (OP)

I'm 1 for 4 with holosuns and won't ever be buying another one again. Glad a lot of you are enjoying them, but 3 failures/defects out of 4 is ridiculous

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nope_noway_@reddit

Same, have had a few Holosuns fail on me. While they are good about the return/warranty process I’ve never had eotech or aimpoint fail.

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wormraper@reddit

yeah, their reliability has always been spotty. it's one of those things that they work forever, or they die in 1-2 years, no inbetween

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Hobbyman85@reddit

Holosun optics look like they have held up quite well in the Ukraine conflict. Definitely battle proven now.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/tactical/these-budget-optics-are-becoming-combat-proven-in-ukraine/

https://gatdaily.com/articles/holosun-officially-combat-proven/

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pi20@reddit

There’s a difference between used in battle and battle proven. Plenty of discussion on ARFCOM regarding Pd’s having issues with Holosuns. They’re prevalent in Ukraine due to their low cost.

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Hobbyman85@reddit

Just like most reviews, the loudest ones are usually the ones who have a negative opinion or bad experience with said item.

But I'm sure you have discussed with the tens of thousands of users out there who have not had issues with theirs and came up with a comprehensive well rounded conclusion thay they are not "battle proven".

All brands and equipment have lemons and failures.

I'm not saying holosun is as good as aimpoint, I am saying it's ridiculous at this point to not say they are not battle proven. If that was the case, they would've all been thrown in a ditch by now.

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someperson1423@reddit

I've heard a lot of bad stuff about Sig optics recently, so I'd say yes to that. I'm a big Aimpoint fan but I haven't bought one new in years. The market has caught up and unless you are going to war then the Holosun is well worth it at 1/2 to 1/3rd the price.

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CADnCoding@reddit

What have you heard bad about sig dots? I’ve never heard anything bad about any of them. I’d say the Romeo 4t/xt and 8t are the best dots on the market right now. Romeo 5 G2 is damn good for $125.

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someperson1423@reddit

I just heard the recent batch of 8Ts were having issues funny enough. Just regular SIG stuff, bad QC and stuff dying. I was also surprised because I've been recommending SIG dots as good budget dots along with Holosuns but all my buddies who keep up more with the industry and professional users told me the recent wave has been fairly spotty.

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CADnCoding@reddit

Hmm. Hadn’t heard of that. Funny enough, I did have a weird issue with my 8T. The center dot was only daylight visible on the top 2 brightness settings while the 65 MOA ring and BDC dots were fine.

Sig had no issue giving me an RMA without any hassle, but somehow the issue fixed itself and I didn’t send it in.

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ShittyTechnical@reddit

Not really, I own 3 of the holosun equivalent optics and had a T-2 that I sold previously. Now that I have night vision I wanted to pick up another to try but I’ll probably end up selling this one again realistically. If it wasn’t for the deal I wouldn’t have bought it since I know I can easily resell it for what I paid.

At this point I’m actually more interested in trying out the 4XT pro/4T pro but just haven’t looked for a deal on them. I’ve heard nothing but good things about them.

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ten10thsdriver@reddit

I have an older T-1 that still works flawless. However, I prefer my Holosuns for less than half of the price. I'm not going to Afghanistan any time soon, so I'd rather have one AEMS than two T-2s.

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someperson1423@reddit

IDK, I think I'd rather have two T-2s lol

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baksshield9@reddit

Agreed

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ten10thsdriver@reddit

Dang it. I'm an idiot. Edited my comment so it actually makes sense now. LOL

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someperson1423@reddit

LOL no worries, I figured it was a typo but I couldn't resist.

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Maddenchamp8787@reddit

No

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anonymousnobody14@reddit

Also curious

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nope_noway_@reddit

But really…this vs 4 Holoson ARO’s?

Really just curious how the new ARO is

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Specter_RMMC@reddit

Got some (Brass Facts)[https://youtu.be/B2mcJUpFC4Q] for you on the ARO.

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Edd0mate@reddit

Can't believe I missed this. Strange that they would get rid of these. What are they switching to, Eotechs?

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Loud_Dumps@reddit

Wait, this site had LE trade in T2s……

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Phatphuck2@reddit

?

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Loud_Dumps@reddit

Look at the optics section….

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Phatphuck2@reddit

Yeah someone mentioned them earlier. They sold out to

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ElGalloDos@reddit

Nahh. I’ll just get 6-8 used Romeo 5s

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AZflipboi@reddit

WIAF!! I was literally searching for one of these all day yesterday till about 2:30am hoping to get a decent deal for 4th of July- gave up and now see this 🤦🏻‍♂️

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Quake_Guy@reddit

Anyone remember the olden days when aimpoints would go on sale at least several times a year and go from insane Mil/LE government is paying prices to mildly autistic guy who doesn't mind spending extra for the best prices?

Is it because the GWOT wound down and less of them out there? The change happened maybe a year after the micros came out and you never see special sales on any aimpoint product.

Funny thing is that with the higher end holosuns and Sigs being a viable alternative you would think Aimpoints pricing would come down, nope...

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wormraper@reddit

yeah, the salad days of Aimpoints are gone lately. it's sad when this is the best deal we've seen in 5 years or so :(

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nope_noway_@reddit

they still pop up for $600 shipped on occasion… Black Friday for instance there was a post but IIRC didn’t come with mount so this is still the better deal.

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LORD_JEW_VANCUNTFUCK@reddit

Thanks for having these be sold out. Was about to fuck my CC up

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Phatphuck2@reddit

Will these have a warranty if they were bought by a department? I'm pretty sure aimpoint won't warranty military surplus. Not sure if it's the same for police trade ins.

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N0tAnExp3rt@reddit

I saved $600 by cooking myself lunch and missing this.

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ArizonaLogan@reddit

I saved $600 by not having $600.

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DUCK_FACE_JONES@reddit

This is the true pro tip

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wormraper@reddit

"this one simple trick will have you saving hundreds!"

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B-rex00@reddit

Nooooo was watching all day yesterday for a t2 deal

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WorthAlarm@reddit

Man I’ve waited months for a good t2 deal and was about 10 minutes late to this. Y’all cleared it out in like 25 min or less. Savages haha. Oh well guess itll have to be $750 elsewhere for me

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jellenberg@reddit

Damn I wish I didn't miss this one lol

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Mic-Oxmall@reddit

BIN in for 1

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daddyglumma@reddit

Whats BIN mean?

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corruptbytes@reddit

buy it now

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1antagonists1@reddit

Buy it now

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corruptbytes@reddit

damn, i would've bought 5

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ShaolinTrapLord@reddit

Ughhhhhh

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capTL9x@reddit

Drew is a great guy. Always had pleasure dealing with him

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r4zen@reddit

They also have PD trade in T2’s for $480…

https://www.downrangethermal.com/collections/day-optics/products/pd-trade-in-t2?variant=50435697836312

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StayTheCourse478@reddit

I was able to snag one. Couldn’t resist. Wish there were better pics, but we shall see!

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wormraper@reddit

ahhhhh, I'll bet that this is how they got ahold of "new old stock". they were probably police trade ins that were still unused and sealed in their boxes sitting in the PD armory. makes perfect sense

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SmoothJ1mmyApollo@reddit

Oos as i was checking out

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AA_Armament1@reddit

The one of the owners is a super sweet man. We wear each others shirts from time to time. Good people :) buy with confidence.

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HearingOtherwise9856@reddit

I see there gone, but why old stock how are these different than the current one?

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wormraper@reddit

they have police trade ins for $480 (that sold out) as well. I'm 99% sure these were simply sealed uninssed ones from the same police trade in batch, and had been sitting in the police armory unused.

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unforgiverii@reddit (OP)

bot oos

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nope_noway_@reddit

Damnit why’d it have to sell out🥲

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SmashSix@reddit

Damn

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gynocolonologist@reddit

Well, fuck my ass. I waited too long.

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FlyingYankee118@reddit

Sold Out already

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sunny-916@reddit

All sold out

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GuysLeeFanboy@reddit

Fs bin, I got mine for $625

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Burt_Macklin_Jr@reddit

Damn, that's GAFS pricing

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w00denarmchair@reddit

Don't worry, those $480 PD trade in ones will pop up next week on GAFS for $600.

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GravyFiesta@reddit

Anddddd they’re gone.

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DatMuthaLuva@reddit

DAMNIT!! OOS AS I WAS PUTTING IN PAY INFO🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

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daddyglumma@reddit

Damn too late

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DUCK_FACE_JONES@reddit

God fuck why

In

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SPICYMK18@reddit

Ordered, let’s see what happens

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creative_deficit@reddit

They’re legit. I bought my DTNVS from them and they’re local to me

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SPICYMK18@reddit

Good to know, thanks 🤙

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Runmenot@reddit

That’s a great price. Anyone know anything about the vendor?

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creative_deficit@reddit

They’re local to me and I’ve been to their shop. Good dudes

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wormraper@reddit

people have mentioned them with postive results on here and on Arfcom from what I can see with my google fu.

seems it's a small gunshop out of Texas

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Runmenot@reddit

Cool. Thank you.

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spiceguys@reddit

absolute steal especially coming with a mount

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OnlyCelebration6549@reddit

Ordered and can’t wait for this to arrive!

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ShittyTechnical@reddit

In for one at this price. I’ve never heard of the website but with it being shop pay for processing and using a credit card I’m not too concerned about getting my money back if there’s any issues.

Aldo make sure to uncheck the $20 shipping insurance bullshit

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