RTX 5060 Ti 16GB or RX 9060 XT 16GB?
Posted by DaR0dak@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 72 comments
I'm looking to upgrade my GPU from an RTX 2060 6GB. But I don't know which GPU to choose. The RTX 5060 Ti costs around 550 USD and the RX 9060 XT costs around 470 USD in my market. I want to play at 1440p with high or ultra settings, with upscaling if needs be. I also want to try out ray tracing. I currently have a Ryzen 5 3600, will be upgrading to a Ryzen 7 5700X3D, with 32 GB 3200 RAM. Not planning on switching to AM5, and I want my PC to last without any substantial upgrades for the next 5\~ years.
IWillAssFuckYou@reddit
1440p with highest settings and 120+ FPS isn't budget territory. You'll need like a 5070 Ti if you want it to be perfect.
Cultural-Accident-71@reddit
More like a 9070xt but yeah. If it's about budget there must be compromises.
IWillAssFuckYou@reddit
5070 Ti and 9070 XT from what I see are now on par with latest drivers.
inide@reddit
No, 9070XT is markedly ahead with current drivers on anything but raytracing.
Village666@reddit
On raster performance yeah, they have always been similar.
5070 Ti wins on everything else. Vastly better features with broader support. Better RT perf and it can do Path Tracing which no AMD GPU can do still.
DaR0dak@reddit (OP)
I never said I wanted at least 120+ fps lol. Do you think either of these could run at 70+ fps at 1440p with upscaling?
Perfect-Shape-2096@reddit
5060 ti 16gb. I currently have one gigabyte aero with a 7800x3d. I play everything on 1440p and have no issues getting 90fps some games even are at 200fps. For example I play cyberpunk on high with no upscaling no ray tracing no frame gen. I get 80-100 fps. God of war I play on ultra or whatever the highest preset is. 90+ frames easy. COD or rainbow easy 200
Perfect-Shape-2096@reddit
There’s also a PNY 5060 ti 16gb for sale on Amazon rn for 499 unless you want a white GPU
gzero5634@reddit
tbf unless I misread or they edited OP didn't say 120+ fps. don't think even the 5090 can do that in every game depending on how max you consider max
TheChronoa@reddit
If my 5080 can run games at max settings and get 200-360 (my monitor caps at 360) at 1440p, a 5090 100% can.
NefariousnessMean959@reddit
I think previous commenter understands that. they literally said "depending on how max you consider max". this includes stuff like path tracing and dlss. max max is like ultra settings, full pt, and dlaa or full native
IWillAssFuckYou@reddit
It was just an example. On a vast majority of games a 5070 Ti should be able to do 120+ fps easily on max settings and at least some raytracing. 4k is what the 5090 is mostly about. I don't know that there's many games out there where a 5090 will genuinely struggle with 1440p. If there is, then that's some really horribly unoptimized game.
Waweeb-E@reddit
Those are 1080p cards. Also go with whatever is cheaper in your region
expend4ble@reddit
I had about the same prices in my area (Norway) and I bought the rtx 5060 ti 16 gb over the rx 9060 xt 16 gb. I think it was worth the price difference, and amd cards just don't get the same bang for your bucks here. I guess AMD just don't sell enough of them to be able to have competitive prices any more.
RegularAimer@reddit
Get a 9070 NOT XT
Nichi-con@reddit
Which is one the worst value of this generation
RegularAimer@reddit
I got a 9070 oc for 600, and its getting ab 10-15 fps less than 9070 xt which uses 320-360w on avg, but the 9070 uses 220w. I wouldnt call that bad value.
Nichi-con@reddit
Oc vs non Oc is a bad comparison, you can overclock the xt too.
Also, is a bad value especially in my region because it cost like a 100 euro more than the 5070, and only 150 less than a 5070 ti.
RegularAimer@reddit
I would never buy it if the price wasnt that low in my region.
Nichi-con@reddit
Also, is just 50 buck cheaper than the CT version.
For me totally not worth it
Nichi-con@reddit
Yeah, if you want to use an upscaler Nvidia is definetely worth the premium.
Also, 5060 Ti is overall better than 9060 Xt
id_rather_not_thanks@reddit
I was deciding between exactly the same cards. Actually ended up going with the 5060 Ti for 80€ more than the 9060 simply because its better at raytracing and DLSS 4 is more widely used. Also it’s a little bit more energy efficient. So far I have no complaints. Everything runs smoothly on highest settings in 1440p.
LookAtThisRhino@reddit
5060ti for Nvidia features, 9060XT for power. I'd like to say "give AMD a chance" and realistically you'll be happy with either card but Nvidia has a better track record of letting their older cards run new features so the 5060ti has better odds of lasting longer. The fact that the 7xxx series for AMD can't run FSR 4 is a bummer and might be telling of the future.
waffle_0405@reddit
The problem with the 7000 series not supporting proper FSR 4 is the fact that it doesn’t have the required hardware design to use the new ML based FSR unlike older versions, that’s why Nvidia can keep giving older cards the new features because they’re on hardware that supports it.
Only saying this because there’s a MUCH better chance AMD cards are supported with features like Nvidia do now they have the ability to keep up with what’s current
Swimming-Shirt-9560@reddit
FSR4 is already available as mod on Linux for RDNA3, so it can work albeit slower than FSR3, but still better than native, iirc it give 10-15% performance uplift compared to FSR3 30-40%, while delivering superior image quality
Swimming-Shirt-9560@reddit
People are literally running FSR4 mod on their 7000 series using linux right now, the performance albeit slower than fsr3, it still better than native, the only reasoning i could think of, on why AMD don't release it yet for RDNA3 is probably sales boost for RDNA4
Money_Do_2@reddit
The 9070 driver uplift has been pretty great though. Amd cards tend to age well, its unlucky the AI turn kinda screwed the 7000 series since they just dont have the architecture.
If the tech stays similar/FSR 4 lasts a while, id think AMD would compete. But if theres like. FSR5 on new architecture you may get left behind. Hard to really say, unfortunately.
I say check benchmarks and buy what works best today. Sounds like OP will be doing a full rehaul for am6 / late am5 anyways, get performance today.
yJz3X@reddit
I would forgo the CPU upgrade and attempt to aquire 4070ti or 9070xt.
I own 4k 165hz pannel playing on it with dlss with internal ress around 900-1200p is comfy.
Ryzen 5 3600 is still brilliant CPU. If it's the desktop part and not that 16mb cache part like 3200g and 3500g were.
roselia_blue@reddit
i use a 5060ti 16gb and play cyberpunk on ultra 60+fps with Path Tracing on using DLSS Quality and frame gen 1440p
honestly I can't tell DLSS/frame gen is on. Maybe bc I've never played it rendered native.
With ray tracing on and path tracing off, i can do native 1440p, no DLSS no frame gen, 60fps. But I like the path tracing so i flip em on
bobrods@reddit
9060xt if you're still on a pcie 3.0 mb because 5060ti has 8 lanes of pcie and will lose more performance than the 9060xt because of bandwidth
If you're on pcie 4.0, amd for price, Nvidia for features but rdna4 is fairly fine for both rt and upscaler although you need to mod most games to get fsr4 to work with optiscaler
mostrengo@reddit
Can you link me to such a test? I'd like to see the performance loss.
FirTree_r@reddit
I believe it was Hardware unboxed?
mostrengo@reddit
No, they tested that but with the 8gb version. Not the 16gb version.
dxearner@reddit
They tested both: https://youtu.be/kEsSUPuvHI4?t=6m26s
mostrengo@reddit
Where can I see the performance loss of the 16gb when comparing pcie 3.0 vs 4.0 in this video?
dxearner@reddit
You will need to compare the 5060ti 16gb pci 3 stats in that video, with the findings on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6qZwJsp5X4
SatisfactionKlutzy18@reddit
If cash allows a 5070 may be best and if that is out of your range a 9060xt 16gb would be the better choice.
itsMysterio@reddit
i’m planning to get the 5060ti 16gb but only got pcie 4. can you explain why the pcie5 connector kills it for you?
mdchemey@reddit
It's not the pcie5 bit that's a problem. It's that it has only 8 pcie lanes (aka pcie5 x8). Pcie doubles its bandwidth each generation so pcie x8 is equal to pcie4 x16 but because the card only has 8 lanes available, if a motherboard's primary pcie slot is limited to pcie4 x16, the card will still only use 8 lanes of pcie but at pcie 4 speeds, cutting its available bandwidth in half.
That said, while it does come at a slight performance cost, the bandwidth available even on pcie 3 motherboards is sufficient to be virtually indistinguishable while in-game. Going from a pcie 5 x8 connection to a pcie 3 x8 connection on a 5060 ti will generally only result in a loss of framerate of about 1-2% .
It's a bit cheap of Nvidia to not put a x16 bus on the card regardless, but generally the "it's only x8" criticism is pretty overblown.
SatisfactionKlutzy18@reddit
He hit the nail on the head and yes while there is a small performance hit for this (1-2% and sometimes 3-5%) it comes down to principle for me. In that on your end or my end we would have to spend 400$+ to get that card buy NVIDIA can’t be bothered to spend 2-3$ to ensure we get 100% of the performance that we paid for. That’s an absurd concept to me.
I like the fact the 9060xt 16gb gives you the full x16 lanes and the performance loss on PCIE3 or PCIE4 is even more minimal and therefore for older systems improves the value proposition by a small margin. Let me be clear, the 5060 TI 16gb is a good card, I just feel when you spend 400$ your product should not be cut down and you should have a whole product.
dxearner@reddit
Just keep in mind, the performance degradation going to pci gen 3 is much higher on the 8gb 5060ti cards: https://youtu.be/kEsSUPuvHI4?t=6m26s
Affectionate-Bell701@reddit
Get a rx7800xt for 500usd
G30rg3draws@reddit
I wouldn't call those 1440p cards. Now that doesn't mean you can't play but with high settings depending on the games you play you might not get satisfying frames and I'm talking lower than 60 fps and dlss/fsr isn't supported on all games. Maybe 30 fps is all you need to be satisfied but in my opinion better to play all games on 1080p on high frames with nice fps than that. Now between those the 5060 ti is a little better in performance but not that big of a difference. Dlss and Ray tracing is better tho and Nvidia is better for productivity. If the price isn't that different I would prefer the 5060 ti for those little things but if it's 30-40€ more I would get the 9060 xt. Always the 16GB version. But to summarize both are good, if price is similar, get the 5060 ti
Pumciusz@reddit
For $80 diffrence 9060xt.
1440p ultra especially if that includes RT isn't realistic.
IceAdministrative323@reddit
If the difference is 40$ would u recommend the 5060 ti over it?
Pumciusz@reddit
Probably. You can check the games you play as some are outliers and play a lot better on either. Like cod on AMD.
DaR0dak@reddit (OP)
I can go 1080p, though I don't mind running 70 fps for 1440p.
yamidevil@reddit
5060 ti. Better tech, better upscaler and support, better ray tracing, stronger card overall. I would suggest a 5070 ti or even 5070 but if it's over your budget this one would serve you fine.
Also I don't know why people are talking about PCIe when these are 16gb cards, the PCIe issues are regarding 8gb cards. If we are to use this logic GDDR7 gives better performance for 128bit bus cards....
Village666@reddit
5060 Ti 16GB due to DLSS/MFG and widespread support.
I would only consider the AMD option if much cheaper. FSR is worse, has worse support and FSR FG is simple software interpolation.
JesusSemiLoaded@reddit
You need to decide for yourself if a minor performance increase for upscaling and rt is worth the extra money. I don't think it is at that price. Someone could probably math it out.
-gean99-@reddit
9060 xt
Just because AMD just rolled out new drivers for the 9070 xt with an major overall uplift in performance and i guess they will also do that for the 9060 xt.
SafeCarry366@reddit
I don't know about your country, but in Brazil it's 5060 TI 100%.
9060 XT at R$3.000,00 (550 USD) vs 5060 TI at R$3.6000,00 (660 USD).
110 USD for a much better upscaler, framegen and raytracing performance. And after one week with the 5060 TI it just works out of the box, no "FSR4 from driver, optiscaler BS", it just works.
BoreJam@reddit
A 20% premium for slightly better features isnt worth it imo. Realistically your looking at less than 10% of an improvement in performance.
SafeCarry366@reddit
In raytraced titles it's more than 20% improvement in performance over the 9060XT.
Let alone DLSS4 and DLAA are much easier to upscale with in comparison to FSR4, that has very few title that support it and you have to either inject throw AMD adrenaline or optiscaler.
AuthenticH8@reddit
9060 XT
DarkseidAntiLife@reddit
Dlss4 and frame gen can get you high frame rates
0wlGod@reddit
the gpus are not enough for your 1440p high ultra with raytracing...the nvdiia option is better for your case..
5700x3d 5700x are enough for these gpus
Advanced_Office_491@reddit
9060xt
FSR 4 is great see if you can use the extra money to put it into a better CPU or better RAM or a new game
Warpedpixel@reddit
I don’t think am4 is gonna last at high settings with 1440p with either card honestly.
Colddeath712@reddit
If those are your only options id say the 5060ti but you should get a 5070 or 5070ti minimum
inquisitor_pangeas@reddit
5060ti 16gb, but if you can grab the 5070 which is a more powerful card more meant for 1440p. Also better at RT.
FunCalligrapher3979@reddit
5060ti since there's not much price difference. Just a better card overall, slightly faster in raster + more in RT with better power efficiency. Don't need to mess around with optiscaler to get FSR4 in old games as majority of them have native DLSS support.
Other smaller things too like RTX HDR if you get a HDR capable display, more support for AI generating, better encoding etc etc
FranticBronchitis@reddit
High/ultra 1440p for the next 5 years is 70 class territory at least
Wooshio@reddit
5060 Ti, or even better 5070 if it isn't putting you too much over budget. As it would be quite a significant boost.
paulerxx@reddit
Grab a 9060XT and save the extra $
EdoTheOnlyOne@reddit
yeah so rough news buddy youre not hitting 1440p high settings with a 5060 ti. DLSS 4 maybe can help but idrk. I dont trust the nvidia dlss shenanigana. Alas in your use case get a 5060 TI. Its at least an attempt at hitting 1440p high. 9060 xt fucking kills itself if you try to push it that far lmao
also since when does a 5060 TI exist what did i miss im confused what
SWITCH TO AM5 WITH A 7600X AND A 32GB CL30 6000 STICK PLEASE IM BEGGING PL
Wooshio@reddit
DLSS quality in many cases look better then Native, and 5060 Ti averages 75+ FPS with that on 1440p/Ultra in Doom Dark Ages (which is one of the most GPU demanding games out currently): https://www.techpowerup.com/review/doom-the-dark-ages-performance-benchmark/6.html
So no, he can definitely play latest games on high/1440p.
Dapper-Expert2801@reddit
the money for the cpu and ram can really let u consider a 7500f or 7600 + b650 board + 6000 cl30, for 1440 high I think maybe u need 5070, but for better performance get a 9070xt
jibrvn@reddit
9060xt 16gb is a way better option as you save 80 dollars. Check out Daniel Owen's comparison video to get better understanding of both gpus.
9okm@reddit
5060 ti 16GB
Numerous_Ad6820@reddit
5060ti as dlss and multi frame gen will be better for those more demanding games come 3-4 years
Numerous_Ad6820@reddit
However I’d highly recommend switching to AM5!!