Why do you have such cool trees in the South?
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Watching The General’s Daughter. When Travolta drives up to the General’s house, there is an amazing tree in the grounds.
It had really long branches, with wilted moss & looked really droopy. Is it the climate, or do these varieties only grow there?
illegalsex@reddit
Haven't seen the movie but it sounds like Southern Live Oak with Spanish moss on it. Those are very common in coastal areas in the south.
Gyvon@reddit
Fun fact: Spanish Moss isn't actually moss. It's a bromeliad, the same family as pineapple
iconsumemyown@reddit
And it sucks the moisture from the tree slowly killing it.
zh3nya@reddit
It's an epiphyte that uses moisture and nutrients from the air, not from the tree.
iconsumemyown@reddit
You would be correct.
No_Sir_6649@reddit
Thats fucking weird as shit. Ty nerd. Hows como these days?
LittleFalls@reddit
Really? I had no idea. It makes sense when you picture other air plants. I’m going to have to read up on it.
SpacemanSpears@reddit
Gonna piggyback on this comment to raise awareness about the local giant. If you're at all into cool trees, this guy is worth a trip to see.
https://angeloaktree.com/?amp=1
BloodOfJupiter@reddit
I love the canopy they can create, beautiful stuff
Deolater@reddit
Sounds like it. Looks like it was filmed at a few locations in Savannah and Tybee
nippleflick1@reddit
They can be nice but u ever seen the redwoods?
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
No.
agate_@reddit
I haven't seen this movie but a little Googling shows that it was filmed at Wormsloe Plantation in Georgia, which has a beautiful front entry lined with live oaks covered in Spanish moss. So you could visit this place if you wanted to!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormsloe_Historic_Site#/media/File:Wormsloe_Historic_Site,_July_2016.jpg
https://gastateparks.org/Wormsloe
Places like this, and especially these sorts of moss-covered trees, are icons of the Old South in the time before our Civil War, and the era of slavery. (Though these particular trees were apparenly planted in the 1890s.) Anyway my point is, these aren't just pretty trees, they mean something to Americans.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I had a feeling due to their age, they would have predated The Civil War.
Is there the possibly in very rare instances, predating The War of Independent🤔
Koldcutter@reddit
Yep, they do and then movies do not do them justice, they are absolutely beautiful and majestically huge. The hanging moss is enchanting. But don't make the bad decision to grab and pull a piece of moss unless you want to itch for the next several days. They are full of little bugs we call chiggers
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I completely agree. They are so cool. I’d love to see one in person. I’ll have to visit the South, in the winter of course😂🥵🥶
FriendWinter9674@reddit
That's probably wise. Here in Florida 2.5 of our 4 seasons are summer.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
More like 3.5😂. When I’m watching Tampa Bucks in December/January & it’s still 72🥵
Playful_Fan4035@reddit
Some of our cool trees are not evergreen, so don’t come in winter or late fall or they won’t have leaves. Come in March or April, it won’t be too hot yet or maybe September.
Sure_Tree_5042@reddit
Spring or fall for a visit. Come during April or early May or the beginning of October/end of September.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
NC might be a bit cooler😂
Certain_Accident3382@reddit
Savannah is also fun in October just for the fun of visiting "the most haunted city in America" at Halloween.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Good point🎃
Sure_Tree_5042@reddit
Spring/fall is mild and beautiful. Trust me.. I’m Southern. That time of year is 70’s.. May get an 80 degree day. The climate is typically fantastic in early spring/later fall.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
How’s the humidity then🤔
milkandsugar@reddit
It will get into the 80s by March and will stay hot until well into October or November, depending on how far south you are. I was born in Georgia and lived there 57 years before moving to South Carolina, so I've experienced it first hand for many decades. The humidity won't crank up until maybe May or June, depending on how far south you are, and there are wild variations in climate in both South Carolina and Georgia, from mountains to beaches. Savannah and the coastal areas will naturally be hotter and more humid, sooner and longer.
ashaggyone@reddit
Try a trail at First Landing State Park. The moss covered cypress trees are stunning.
devilbunny@reddit
Audubon Park, New Orleans.
travelinmatt76@reddit
We never really know when we're going to have winter. In December it might be freezing cold, or it might be 70⁰. Try early spring, the humidity will be lower
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Especially where you are. Right by the Gulf of America.
travelinmatt76@reddit
Mexico
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Just checking your alliances😂
travelinmatt76@reddit
Even if I was a Trumper I'd still be upset about that, it's just dumb.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Just a joke😬
FuckIPLaw@reddit
Mexico.
SteampunkExplorer@reddit
Wherever you stay, it'll have air conditioning, so don't let the heat scare you too much.
Unless you're going hiking. 🥲
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I love hiking. Hence why I’d live in Washington State😂
illegalsex@reddit
Definitely do. I go to Savannah, Jekyll or St. Simons Island occasionally and they are everywhere Some are so old and large that the branches grow back down to the ground.
MaggieMae68@reddit
There's a famous one in Audubon Park in New Orleans called the Etienne de Boré Oak, or the Tree of Life. There's a bit of a dispute as to whether it was planted in 1740 or 1771, but either way, it's 250+ years old.
https://audubonnatureinstitute.org/tree-of-life
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Life_(Louisiana)
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Wow😱. Those are some great examples👍
AliceInReverse@reddit
They live for hundreds of years. There is one that still marks boundaries in Louisiana from the early 1800’s. They grog strong with deep roots and hurricanes don’t even budge them
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Very impressive.
ThrowawayMod1989@reddit
What you can’t see on them in the movies is the other organism that grows on live oaks, resurrection fern. They grow on top of the branches. When dry they shrivel and can stay like that for a very long time. When the rain comes they open back up.
mostie2016@reddit
Also if you have a live oak allergy well you’re in for hell. Still gorgeous trees.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
No kidding. I have a beautiful one in my back yard, about 150 years old, but in March, my back yard is a no-go zone for me.
Dio_Yuji@reddit
Chiggers aren’t usually found in spanish moss, unless it’s laying on the ground. They’re ground-dwelling
sleepypossumster@reddit
I just got back from Beaufort, SC, where you'll find live oaks festooned with Spanish moss on every random plot of land, which tends to bestow an air of Southern Gothic mystery to the most pedestrian of locales. A trip to Harris Teeter to pick up a jug of milk becomes a rumination on the sins of the past...
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
So cool. I love a bit of Southern gothic. Did you take any photos🤷♂️
sleepypossumster@reddit
I took lots of photos, but I guess it's not possible to post any of them here...
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I’d forgotten that🤔. You could DM me some please🙏
BlasphemousRykard@reddit
The south actually has the largest variety of plants and flora of anywhere in the country due to its climate. I’ve noticed much deeper green plants since moving to the south, it feels like the saturation is turned up in real life.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
State please🙏
Ornery-Character-729@reddit
I think North Carolina has the largest diversity of flora and fauna in the world. A great deal of that diversity occurs in our mountains. The Appalachian Mountains are the oldest in the world and I think the rest of the state is also quite diverse. The climate here has remained consistent for a very long time. As in it hasn't changed appreciably since prehistoric times. I think. (Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.)
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Very interesting😱
BlasphemousRykard@reddit
North Carolina!
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Nice👍🇺🇸
Smooth-Abalone-7651@reddit
If you are near Columbia SC the Congeree National Park is worth a visit if you’re interested in a variety of awesome trees. I recommend the spring or fall to avoid heat and bugs.
Ssshushpup23@reddit
I love them too, I’m too inland to have them, but I do have Magnolia and Mimosa trees and they’re gorgeous. For hanging foliage we have kudzu and climbing wild roses
DryHuckleberry5596@reddit
Large trees with Spanish moss make for nice picturesque views here in Florida.
HurtsCauseItMatters@reddit
I don't know if this is the case everywhere they exist, but collecting moss used to be a profession in Louisiana. Collect the moss, clean it, dry it so it could be sold. Similar to cotton gins, there were moss gins. The last one closed in the 1970s.
Moss was used in mattresses, pillows, insulation in the walls - the end result was called bousillage and the moss was mixed with cattle dung(sometimes), mud, sand, straw, animal hair, etc to stuff in between wooden posts in the early creole cottages.
Because moss was so important from a cultural standpoint, humans would intentionally spread it to areas that it otherwise might not exist. Even with those efforts, Louisiana has seen a decline in spanish moss growth and there have been attempts at conservation efforts to bring it back to the levels it was before. Partially due to invasive ball moss being introduced in the 50s, partially due to air pollution from chemical plants and I'm sure partially due to deforestation and over-collection of the moss in the early 20th century.
OutOfTheBunker@reddit
And supposedly the French colonials called it "Spanish beard" (barbe espagnol), while the Spanish called it "French wig" (cabello francés) (from "How Spanish Moss Got its Name").
thunder_boots@reddit
It's also used as a seasoning and thickener in food. It's called filé.
HurtsCauseItMatters@reddit
Lol no. That's sassafras.
OutOfTheBunker@reddit
🤣🤣 I'm trying to imagine Spanish moss in my gumbo. 😱
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
That would be great if they could restore its dominance in LA.
Thanks for the background information. Glad to hear the moss had a number of practical use ages.
rapiertwit@reddit
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/77/K%C3%B6ppen_Climate_Types_US_50.png/500px-K%C3%B6ppen_Climate_Types_US_50.png
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Being English. I’m used to Oceanic climate. Washington State would be absolutely perfect for me.
Tim-oBedlam@reddit
yeah, if you're English you really don't want to live in the American Southeast. Imagine an unusually hot, humid English summer day where it gets above 30 C. That's every day in Georgia or South Carolina. A day where it only got up to 30 C would be a cold snap.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
“Cold snap”😂🥶
rapiertwit@reddit
My dad was an Essex lad by birth. He did not find the Southern climate hospitable and built a pool as soon as we could afford it, to survive the heat.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Looking at your handle. Your dad was in the Air Force🤔. We would not cope well in that climate at all, without AC🥶
rapiertwit@reddit
Dad came to the U.S. in the 60s and joined the USAF to gain accelerated citizenship (that was a deal offered during Vietnam war era to boost recruitment). We were stationed in the UK twice so part of my childhood was spent there.
My British relatives (he was the only one who emigrated) visit here, always in the summer because they want “warm weather” and then they start withering from the heat and humidity immediately LOL. If you want nice warm weather here, try early October.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
That was a great program. I’m surprised your military doesn’t offer that option for Brits still🤔
I love your country & have family there too. I’ve visited the East Coast five times. As a graduate, I’d have happily serviced as an Officer for five years, to gain citizenship.
ChessieChesapeake@reddit
We did a family trip to Charleston over spring break and the Southern Live Oak has become my favorite tree.
Erikkamirs@reddit
My older brother had his wedding photos taken in a park surrounded by these trees. I'm used to seeing them, so I never thought much of them. I remember climbing on one in the park when I was a child.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Which state please🙏
Erikkamirs@reddit
Louisiana
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I guess if you’ve grown up with them, they seem quite ubiquitous.
But coming from the UK, they look so alien to us.
kaleb2959@reddit
It sounds like you're describing a weeping willow. They require a ton of water and it's difficult to keep them alive if you aren't in a very rainy climate.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Weeping Williow’s are not indigenous to the U.S🤔
kaleb2959@reddit
Yeah, I got to thinking after I answered that I might have gotten it wrong. I just looked it up and it's Spanish moss (which is neither Spanish nor moss), which needs humid weather but can't survive a real winter, so so it thrives in the southeastern US. It especially likes to grow on live oaks because of how the branches spread out.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Not a problem👍
AstroNerd92@reddit
Spanish moss thrives in a lot of the south and it’s absolutely gorgeous. Only problem is they’re breeding grounds for gnats and mosquitos
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
They love me unfortunately🦟😬
Heavy_Hall_8249@reddit
Spanish moss is epiphytic, meaning it gets all its nutrients from the air/rain, so not a parasite that derives sustenance from its host. Nonetheless it is somewhat particular about what trees it grows on, live oak and bald cypress being preferred.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Just watched The Patriot. There are some fantastic examples.
RichLeadership2807@reddit
Live oak with Spanish moss. I love them. Climate is just right for them and the ones you see are hundreds of years old
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Probably pre Civil War🤷♂️
RichLeadership2807@reddit
Some of them are even pre United States
DrGerbal@reddit
Biodiversity
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
Live Oaks are so beautiful, there are a bunch of streets in Houston that have a natural awning covering the whole street. I am sure there are many others like this in the south, I just used to live nearby.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Do you have a photo🙏
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Rice+University/@29.7195071,-95.4064683,3a,75y,243.87h,84.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHEpWSyLnPIoL1pacv2e2ng!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D5.901338734177386%26panoid%3DHEpWSyLnPIoL1pacv2e2ng%26yaw%3D243.87332704220867!7i16384!8i8192!4m6!3m5!1s0x8640c064b7f18e1f:0xe2cd9cf065c43eb5!8m2!3d29.7168363!4d-95.4035531!16zL20vMDZmcTI?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDYzMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Google street view link, all around Rice University in Houston.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
They look amazing🌳
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
the really huge ones are amazing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/sixpounder/2442304745
https://majikphil3.blogspot.com/2021/08/the-largest-tree-in-south-village.html
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
That is humongous😱
andmewithoutmytowel@reddit
If you haven’t seen giant sequoias, you should look them up, though nothing compares to seeing them in person-they’re awe-inspiring.
timeonmyhandz@reddit
We have 5 in our yard... Live them except in March / April.. It's their version of fall.
New leaves push out all the old leaves.. Pollen sacks burst and then drop.. It's amazing and messy..
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Any chance of a photo🙏
timeonmyhandz@reddit
I was too busy raking and bagging to take pictures 😂..
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
I imagine you were. Could you take a photo though🤔
Dio_Yuji@reddit
“Spanish Moss” is called that, not becomes it came from Spain, which it didn’t….but because it resembled the gray, curly beards of the Spanish Conquistadors who explored the southeast US in the 1500s and 1600s
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Interesting fact👍
FreshHotPoop@reddit
America is almost like several countries and climates all wrapped into one. There are soooo many uniquely beautiful places all over the country.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Absolutely. You guys have everything there, hence why most of you don’t have passports. Why would you want holiday anywhere else🇺🇸
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
Speaking as someone from the northern US, I am also fascinated by those big trees with Spanish moss all over them. I love the look, and it looks totally alien to me because I'm not used to it.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Same, as I’m English. That’s why they are so appealing to me. They are so alien to my environment & all their history.
Some being so old, they must predate the Civil War.
MaggieMae68@reddit
The oldest Live Oak in the US is the Angel Oak in Charleston, SC. It's estimated to be between 300 and 400 years old.
https://www.charleston-sc.gov/153/Angel-Oak
Also check out Treaty Oak in Austin, TX.
It has a fascinating history because in the late 1980s some guy attempted kill it because his girlfriend broke up with him. He poured poison around the base of it and the city went to great lengths to save it. They arrested the guy and wound up having to keep in him jail for a while because he was getting death threats.
I was going to school at the University in Austin at the time and used to drive by it every day. I would see that they would put up shade cloth to protect the surviving branches from the sun and set up special watering to try to "rinse" out as much of the poison as possible. It took years to bring it back to anything resembling a proper oak tree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Oak_(Austin,_Texas)
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Very interesting; thanks👍
hyooston@reddit
Also The Big Tree in Rockport, Tx!
Joel_feila@reddit
the climate. The gulf cost is warm wet and that's what trees love.
CardinalsDelendaEst@reddit
Oak with Spanish moss is a vibe.
TeamTurnus@reddit
Live oaks with Spanish moss are lovey, its probably the only part of Florida I miss these days
naetaejabroni@reddit
We have them in Georgia friend :)
TeamTurnus@reddit
Oh? I haven't seen them much up here in Atlanta, thats good to know though
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
You mean you haven't seen them at all up in Atlanta. It's absolutely the wrong environment for the moss.
PlainTrain@reddit
I've seen traces of Spanish moss on my trees in central Alabama, but it doesn't grow much at all here. Atlanta would be even harder, for sure.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Is that true for the whole state🤔
PlainTrain@reddit
No. My area is at the tail end of the Appalachian mountains. The Mobile area and the rest of the Alabama Gulf Coast would do better.
Scrappy_The_Crow@reddit
As many have already said, the coastal areas have both the right trees and the moss.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
You have them in Georgia though🤔. I bet you don’t miss the r punishing heat🥵
TeamTurnus@reddit
Its still plenty hot here lol, but it being slightly cooler is nice.
PuzzleheadedLemon353@reddit
Live oaks, they live for a long time and are gorgeous. I love old Southern Magnolia trees, too. I have one of each in my Southern yard and stress during each hurricane that they are spared.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
State please
PuzzleheadedLemon353@reddit
Coastal NC...
Fappy_as_a_Clam@reddit
It's both of those things. They can grow big down south because there is no snow or ice to snap the branches every winter.
Also, we like to keep it a little spooky down there and big oaks with Spanish moss do the trick.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
It reminds me of something for a bygone era, pre Civil War. Definitely spooky, I love the way they look.
Enough_Roof_1141@reddit
They are the same trees. Some of them are 500 years old.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Incredible
Randomizedname1234@reddit
And when it does ice more than a half in like it did last year here in northeast Georgia, snap snap snap. I was waiting for the power to go out but it only flickered thankfully.
StJmagistra@reddit
I hadn’t thought about that aspect of the trees here! Snow and ice are definitely rare here, and do cause a lot of damage on the rare occasions that they do occur.
Fappy_as_a_Clam@reddit
It's one of the things I noticed immediately after moving to Michigan, the trees up here don't grow as tall or as bushy...they generally can't.
I've been up here for about 10 years now, and never went back down south over the summer until this past May, and had completely forgotten what the trees are like in full bloom down there. Its basically a rain forest compared to Michigan lol I was just staring at my moms back yard the whole time, she thought I was crazy
jcGyo@reddit
Cold weather also simply slows the growth of trees so it takes longer for them to get big.
clearliquidclearjar@reddit
Big live oaks are hundreds of years old - the really massive ones can be 300 or 400 years old, with some older than that.
StJmagistra@reddit
When my family moved here from Oklahoma when I was ten, as soon as we crossed the Mississippi river in our Chevy station wagon, all three of us girls were like, “It’s so GREEN!!!”
Fappy_as_a_Clam@reddit
I knew a woman from west Texas up here in GR and she said the first time she flew in she thought exactly the same thing. "It's green, everywhere!"
She said the thing she loved most about Michigan is how green and lush it is in the summer.
JadeHarley0@reddit
All trees are cool. What are you talking about about.
JadeHarley0@reddit
But you are probably thinking of an epiphyte plant called Spanish moss. It's not moss, it's actually a type of bromeliad, related to pineapples and those air plants they sometimes sell at home repair stores
Enough_Roof_1141@reddit
Live Oak trees are amazing. I have two bigs ones.
They have twisted branches and are evergreen. Only losing leaves when new ones push them off in spring.
They can be hundreds of years old.
UniqueEnigma121@reddit (OP)
Which state are you in🤔
Enough_Roof_1141@reddit
Texas but also South Carolina.
stitchingdeb@reddit
If you have opportunity visit Natchez, MS, during the Pilgrimage. Antebellum homes are opened for tours, with guides in costume. Lovely houses and gardens.
GhostOfJamesStrang@reddit
I love Spanish Moss.