Steam Hardware & Software Survey (June 2025)
Posted by OwnWitness2836@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 149 comments
Steam has published its Hardware and Software Survey for June 2025.
Almost all of Nvidia's Blackwell 50-series GPUs have appeared, and the RTX 5090 has finally shown up on the list. Surprisingly, the RTX 5060 also made an appearance, despite launching recently on May 19th.
In contrast, AMD's RDNA 4 GPUs, including the RX 9070 and RX 9060 XT are still missing from the survey.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/
BarKnight@reddit
Still no 9070 or 9070XT
OwnWitness2836@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I think it’s mainly due to limited availability and high pricing right now.
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
No it's because they don't get counted on systems that have a Radeon IGPU. It gets folded under generic Radeon graphics. Mine was listed correctly in the report since my 5800X3D doesn't have an IGPU. But it's easy to tell when it doesn't count, there's a thread about it in r/radeon right now
ThermL@reddit
I would say that it's equal parts steam survey results, and equal parts the fact that AMD straight up makes 1/8th the amount of GPUs as Nvidia.
AMD may not have much issue selling the 9070xt they do make, but they're going to have to make more than they do to ever actually get market share. Trickling out cards 100+ dollars over MSRP doesn't scratch the world market.
There's a pretty simple reason why 9070xt doesn't exist at MSRP. It isn't because of insane demand, it's because of abysmal supply. AIB's arn't going to sell out the few GPU's they get at 600 when they can trickle sell them at 700 and have the same total units sold.
railven@reddit
Bonus points for AMD they can allocate those resources to more profitable products. IE, AMD is in no rush to increase production as it would fundamentally hurt their coin purse when all things considered.
nukleabomb@reddit
Wouldn't that apply equally to any system with an iGPU then?
Also the 9070/9070XT are present under linux at 0.85%
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
No it's when both IGPU and dGPU are from the same manufacturer
nukleabomb@reddit
That's not true at all. This was pointed out last month as well, where some systems with iGPUs, regardless of Nvidia/AMD GPUs showed up as Intel integrated graphics.
inyue@reddit
Wow and also don't forget to protect from 5g radiation 🤣
Strazdas1@reddit
availability is not limited. there are dozen of models to choose from in stock. The pricing is trash though.
FreightTrain2@reddit
Before the 9070 xt was announced I thought Radeon was cooked. Then they announced it and it seemed like they might actually be gaining ground. I am now back to thinking Radeon might be cooked.
Silent-Selection8161@reddit
AMD needs to learn what marketing is.
All the engineering in the world doesn't matter if they can't market it to the average person that has $2000 and not a thought or desire to think or learn anything in their heads. That person is going to want a gaming PC, hear "buy Nvidia" and do that. As long as that happens AMD will never make headway, but "marketing" doesn't seem to be a thing AMD speaks.
auradragon1@reddit
No. It's not marketing that's the problem. It's simply that their GPUs are inferior. That's it.
It's an engineering problem.
railven@reddit
But that is where marketing ties in. You have to OVER state your strengths when your product is inferior.
example - VRAM. Be AMD. Bang drum about VRAM. Be the same AMD that then releases the same product you criticized your rival over.
Bonus point, when you factor in the youtubers drinking the AMD PR kool aid. HUB's infamous "AMD would have sold more units than RTX 50 combined" comes to mind.
AMD's marketing is actually working, to a degree, it just happens that people get into the AMD ecosystem, experience it, and then leave because - well the rest of what you said.
HallowClaw@reddit
Yep, when I was buying my GPU I was discussing it with my father and he said to me "why not buy a better one? How much it's going to last? One or two years? (that's the life of old hardware he was used to), is 50 or 100€ really that big of a deal over this period?"
I gave it a thought and waited a bit to be sure that I won't need that extra money and bought a way better card. It was absolutely worth it. Realistically I will replace it when my card is going to be 2-3 gen old. That's solid 4-6 years of better experience for something like 10€ a month.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Exactly its not like Ryzen has any special marketing vs radeon. The product just spoke for itself & supply
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Amd marketing will give us another "Radeon Rebeles"
zakats@reddit
Poor volta
railven@reddit
Not directly AMD but recently rewatched the XRangers and giggled.
Then The Fixer came on and I cringed.
IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl@reddit
TBH Nvidia has the better products, they're just more expensive/less bang for the buck. With $2,000 people should definitely be buying Nvidia though - no need to compromise on the tech at that price point.
KolkataK@reddit
They unironically use the word "team red", goes to show how much enthusiast focused their marketing is which itself is a tiny market with a loud voice. I doubt your casual pc gamer gives a shit about all that
psi-storm@reddit
It's not tracked correctly in the survey, those cards are mixed in the 4% generic AMD graphics numbers. The 7800XT magically appeared two months ago in the survey even though it was sold for two years. And this month it has double the share it had two months ago. This is an error in the tracking and not sales.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
Despite 8GB vram getting so much hate on Internet / Tech world, is by far the most popular sitting at 33.92% and basing from Steam Monthly concurrent players of 185 Million that is equivalent to 628 Million gamers worldwide and also, they are still 0.25% up than the previous month as well.
That is crazy amount of 8GB GPU owners and certainly most game devs right now even if they find 8GB Vram budget as insufficient on their games can't ignore that much amount of player base in comparison the PS5 and Xbox Series X & S units sold combined doesn't even reach 100 Million total.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Its chicken and egg sitution. Look at the games people are playing & buying on steam. You have low vram so you buy less vram intensive games, devs make more low vram games so people buy low vram gpus because hey it does the job anyways.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
8GB despite not being enough on newer upcoming games is still arguably enough as long as the user is playing at lower resolution on optimized graphics settings rather than super duper ultra max settings that most tech reviewers are using as their benchmark.
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
The problem youtubers need narratives for their livelihoods. It leads to disconnect between online and reality
Its important testing as people upgrading want to know how the cards will fair in the games they want to play and future health of the card.
However people use their gpus in a past-present-future style. Currently \~40% of players play those forever games they're low on vram. When people get the cards they'll play their old games to see what type of performance they get & replay them on ultra. Most people wont buy the new aaa games, maybe 3-4 a year the rest they play their old libraries.
railven@reddit
Well said.
I personally believe Youtubers have done more damage to this hobby than the actual markets.
Don't get me wrong, I also hold the markets accountable, but youtubers telling their audience viable products are "waste of sand" leads them to target more expensive products that lead to gouging as the cheaper obtainable products were "waste of the sand" the more expensive now gouged products were "I want it."
railven@reddit
You ever think the people buying these products are already budget constrained and are better served buying older games because they are cheaper, the system requirements being lower isn't the driving point but doesn't hurt.
I know me now being in a situation where $20 here and there adds up, so I'm looking at bargain bin sales to get my fix while games like Doom Dark Ages sits on a shelf because "$80 for one game or $40 for 4-5 games? Hmmmm...." situation I find myself in.
Lisaismyfav@reddit
Everyone is focusing on individual cards, but AMD’s overall share is up despite the no-show of 9070 and 9060. Where is that coming from, just a bunch of people gaming on iGPUs?
violet_sakura@reddit
Not necessarily gaming on iGPU, if your system has iGPU and dGPU both are detected by steam. More people are purchasing AMD CPU so that makes sense.
Lisaismyfav@reddit
But Intel also showed can increase in GPU share? Lol
violet_sakura@reddit
idk could be because of laptops users
Olde94@reddit
For AMD i think the handhelds are relevant too. All of them except for the msi claw uses amd APU’s
996forever@reddit
These chips are just slightly different config laptop chips.
Strazdas1@reddit
largest contributor to Intel share is intels iGPUs from laptops.
popop143@reddit
Seems like the 7800 XT is the biggest gainer for AMD. Its price is lowering probably with the release of the 9000-series.
SoTOP@reddit
Nothing to do with price, 7800XT was not properly counted by Steam until three months ago. In those 3 months it went from not showing up at all to now having 0.50%. Such drastic changes are statistically impossible for GPU released more than 1,5 years ago.
nukleabomb@reddit
Tbf amd cards always sell when the next gen cards come. Because they're always deeply discounted and are great value.
RDNA2 did this to RDNA 3 and now RDNA 3 is doing this to RDNA 4.
No-Broccoli123@reddit
AMD are the budget brand for a reason
SoTOP@reddit
While true in general, 7800XT rise up is not because of that. For example 7700XT did not gain anything at all in those same 3 months.
popop143@reddit
Also to be honest, and the community is really prickly about it, feels like NVidia computers are surveyed more than AMD computers. For the 3 years I've owned my 6700 XT and a regular Steam gamer, I've only been surveyed ONCE, while my friend with a 3060 TI get surveyed regularly, like 7 times last year (dunno about this year). It's just a miniscule sample size but it's really dodgy and before owning a PC I even thought that the Hardware Survey was automatic with people installing Steam. Heck, I'm sure that people with Steam won't begrudge from Steam to at least get a snapshot of their specs automatically, maybe just have an opt out in the Settings for more privacy-focused people. It's the only single conspiracy theory that I subscribe to, though of course Nvidia still probably has more than 60% market share but the survey feels really disproportionate.
SoTOP@reddit
Getting or not getting survey evens out over large number of people. In general Steam numbers are about where they should be based on all other data about component sales we have.
RX7000 series is the first time there was clear mismatch between expected numbers and what Steam survey was showing.
popop143@reddit
That's true if the sampling is truly random. But over 36 months, one user getting surveyed once while the other gets surveyed 20+ times shows a bit of bias in the sampling. Just because there is a big sample does not mean that the sample is properly random. For example, in one survey of let's say 10 people, with the sample size being four. There are 8 NVidia users and 2 AMD users. Completely believable to have all four of the sample size being Nvidia users. But over 36 random samples, there is expectation of each user being a part of a random sample near 40% of 36, which is around 14 times (maybe 10-18 times for the population). Really miniscule chance for a random survey of 4 people over a population of 10 to have one user only be surveyed once while another gets surveyed 20+ times. It's not a matter of a sample size, but the question of it being truly random.
To be fair for Steam, I don't think they really stated anywhere that it truly is random, just that people believe that it is.
Strazdas1@reddit
Why are people still buying RDNA3?
popop143@reddit
The price? Even RDNA 2 and Nvidia Ampere are heavily discounted when you can find stock. Like a local store near me has the 3080 at $430, and a 6900 XT at $470. Those both are better than any new cards at that price point (9060 XT 16GB and 5060 TI 16GB at around $480). 7800 XT is a bit more expensive at $550, but way cheaper than a 5070 at $660 and a 9070 at $730 (all local prices, SEA country). Prices still aren't low enough for me to consider upgrading from my 6700 XT, but I can see the appeal of buying from older generations either Nvidia or AMD.
nukleabomb@reddit
This is how it usually goes for AMD.
RDNA2 was in deep discounts when RDNA 3 came out, and made it hard to ignore. Now RDNA 3 are priced well compared to RDNA 4 (and the wack MSRP).
popop143@reddit
At the very least RDNA 4 is now going back to earth, with 9070 near MSRP and a lot of online retailers having the 9070 XT at $679-$699. Should have been that way but AIBs preyed on the huge glowing review at launch.
bad1o8o@reddit
just because they don't show up individually, it doesn't mean they don't factor into the overall
ShadowRomeo@reddit
But the RX 9070 finally showed up at 0.16% which is equivalent to 296K of total GPUs basing from estimated 185 Million monthly concurrent players of Steam.
nukleabomb@reddit
I don't think you can scale the survey numbers to the concurrent players.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
Why not? I mean It's not a perfect of course, but it is enough to at least grasp how many users that actually has the particular GPU considering both are based on monthly data that is gathered every beginning of the month too.
That said though I wouldn't say no to a better alternative to what I currently is using.
NGGKroze@reddit
That might be because RDNA3 is cheaper (and even more second hand market) than 9000 series, so those set eyes on AMD who can't buy RDNA4, get RDNA3.
phire@reddit
No, it's more that a bunch of older Nvidia based systems are being retired.
jasonwc@reddit
I’ve seen some analyses that break out only discrete cards, and it shows Nvidia share typically in line with their global discrete GPU market share on a quarterly basis - typically in the 85% range. There are a lot of laptops wirh AMD iGPUs, and if you look at share gain, it’s often here where AMD is gaining. This last month, there was also an increase for the 7800XT.
Hayden247@reddit
Guys, the RX 9070 is there... just... on the DirectX data page https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/?sort=name
AND... THE 9070 IS AT 0.08%! BRUH, sorry but the RTX 5070 is outselling it by more than 10:1 which also means in a few years we'll have a lot of people on 12GB GPUs that are becoming not enough when new consoles come...
FrappuccinoBukkake@reddit
Next gen consoles aren't releasing for at least another 2.5 years at the absolute minimum, and they'll release cross generational games for at least another 2. Expect a large shift in system requirements around 2030, no sooner.
Hayden247@reddit
Maybe? I mean 12GB of vram should be playable for anything made for 9th gen console spec, tho as for how good you'll be able to have the resolution and texture quality will definitely be questionable once 10th gen consoles are around. I'd expect 12GB to start entering low texture quality territory, or medium with low just being loser textures to keep 8GB GPUs alive to begin with. 16GB will be the bare minimum to be PS6 ready, but 24GB will only be where it will be equivalent as odds are they'll have 32GB of memory with at least 4GB saved for OS use, but potentially probably 8GB to leave 24GB console ram for games.
5070 Super apparently will have 18GB... slightly better than 16GB and I think that will be okay for this generation for sure, it's only if the RTX 7070 was still 18GB would it really just be no. But I'm hoping next gen Radeons in mid range come with 24GBs, that'll be fully 10th gen proofed with only things beyond console quality even having a shot at exceeding vram capacity for the years to come.
As for PS6 tho, 2027-28 is when, 2-3 years away. Current gen GPUs will extend at least into the early part of their life which really for a proper 550USD GPU I'd expect better than 12GB at this point, 12GB is matching the nearly 5 year old PS5's available ram for games, the RTX 3070 should have been 12 back in 2020 smh. At this point yeah 5070S 18GB leak is what we should have had now.
crab_quiche@reddit
The amount of AMD GPUs being sold right now has nothing to do with their pricing
Hayden247@reddit
Then what is it? What? FSR4 has gotten good now and the RT isn't total junk, the issue is PRICE. RX 9070 just can't sell at the same price as the 5070, but if it was like 15% cheaper I bet we'd see it go much better than it is now. AMD can't charge the same, that won't work, 12GB vram isn't poison to the average buyer yet and of course RDNA4 is still a bit behind on RT and a few features, but it is much better than RDNA3.
Or is it the amount of stock? Then AMD needs to make more GPUs instead of chasing profit per GPU.
Dudeonyx@reddit
You're overthinking it, people simply buy Nvidia because it is Nvidia (brand). It's not rocket science.
IIlIIlIIlIlIIlIIlIIl@reddit
It's not just the brand. FSR4 attained parity with DLSS3 at the same time that DLSS4 got released, which has revolutionized the upscaling game. FSR is 3 years behind.
Similarly, AMD finally got acceptable RT performance but they're still 2 generations/years behind.
railven@reddit
Questionable as RDNA3 and prior have awful RT support compared to RDNA4. And as more games move to using RTGI and other features, VRAM won't save those products.
This is the gaming development generation we should have had 4-5 years ago, with AMD slapping RDNA4 hardware into RDNA2! Instead AMD kept listening to their audience "I don't care about RT or Upscaling" and thus delivered on request.
Youtubers didn't help selling their audience a product with less features for similar prices, but here we are now. And RDNA3 and prior users will defend their choice (don't blame them) as the industry finally moves forward but they might feel the sting and ultimately abandon AMD.
People think price is what's causing AMD's marketshare to continue to decline - it's their products and planning. They introduce inferior products (feature set wise) charging similar prices to a more balanced product while only manufacturing a pittance of them which causes price gouging and then the audience some how expect AMD to turn things around.
f1rstx@reddit
Not only that, i'm not loyal to brands (like i was on Intel since 286 but when time came to upgrade from i7 8700 i went to Ryzen 7700 cuz it's just better offering) but there is no choice but to go for Nvidia since i need CUDA for work. Being good at productivity is often overlooked reason why people buy Nvidia. And overall feature package is great.
nukleabomb@reddit
The market was absolutely starved for GPUs.
Even intel sold off whever battlemage GPUs they made. If ams would make more, and actually price closer to msrp, they would sell whatever they made.
tmchn@reddit
The issue is that with AMD you still have compromises. FSR4 is good but has very little adoption
DLSS on the other hand is basically in everygame. And you can simply force it via dlss swapper in the games that don't support it
Strazdas1@reddit
it has everything to do with the pricing.
Unironickek2@reddit
If the new console have enough to make 12gb unusable do you really think anything other than the 90 cards would be good?
Strazdas1@reddit
Even if the new consoles have enough VRAM to make 12 GB unusable, there will be a long transition period where developers support both new and old console.
railven@reddit
Blasphemy! I, and everyone, run their games at Ultra settings 8K Upscaling and 56 thousand mods!
Stop lying! /s
Sometimes I wish I could stop visiting Reddit. People really think 8GBs isn't viable because GASP! you have to turn a few settings down! The end of PC gaming!
Hayden247@reddit
16GB will hold out better because that's 33% more vram. Ideally by next gen yeah we'll have 24GB in the midrange which would probably match the 32GB of unified console memory well, it is unified memory so you don't quite need 32GB of vram, 24GB would do the job well and 16GB will be fine at least in the early years of the generation I think, like how 12GB was and how that's only when 8GB really showed it was starting to not be enough.
tmchn@reddit
bbbut reddit told me that the 9070 xt would destroy the market and destroy nvidia marketshare
Comfortable-Sky7801@reddit
12 GB is fine right now, by the time next gen consoles come out and have games, the 5070 won’t be able to max out these games anyway. There’s no need for a bunch of VRAM on a 70 class card.
nukleabomb@reddit
That ratio checks out. According to JPR, Nvidia shipped 92% of all board to AIB in Q1 and AMD was at 8%. This would be 11.5:1.
surf_greatriver_v4@reddit
It's really not surprising AMD cards are still so low
Some people need to get it into their skulls that one generation is NOT enough to break markets
AMD CPUs have been almost objectively the better buy since the Ryzen 3000 series, and have been the best buy since the 5000. And look, they're still NOT at a break even point with intel
railven@reddit
This has zero to do with AMD's product merit and 100% to do with AMD's business structure.
You can't and won't ever outsell your rival if you ship 1/10 their units.
We got JPR numbers a few weeks back - anyone still surprised by any of this don't understand markets:
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-dominates-aib-gpu-market-share-in-q1-2025-amd-intel-drop/
AMD can sell 100% of their units but if they only shipped 8 to NV's 92, good luck making a dent in the total userbase tracking.
Mrgamerxpert@reddit
Laptops?
Strazdas1@reddit
One generation of not even being better, just less bad.
Quito98@reddit
Yeah again Steam is posting wrong data right? 😂😂
Owlface@reddit
Only bad data if it doesn't support my preferred agenda!!!
Zenith251@reddit
In 18 years I've only received one Steam HW Survey request, and that was in 2022. My 9070 XT remains uncounted.
In 18 years I've had 2 Nvidia GPUs, and 4 AMD GPUs. Only 1 ever counted, a 6700XT.
Brapplezz@reddit
Yeah meanwhile I have done it 5-6 times in 15 year, all different hardware configurations too. Pity I didn't get this one as now I'm using an Arc GPU, last was a 2070.
Hayden247@reddit
Meanwhile for the 3 years I've had a PC, I've gotten the survey every July in 2023, 2024 and just a few days ago for July 2025 and it's been my RX 6950 XT and Ryzen 7600X pair the entire time. Funny how the survey works, it's random, seemingly skips some, is all over the place for others and then for me is seemingly just a regular once a year this month thing lol.
Zenith251@reddit
There must be some mathematical proof that shows that random sampling can disproportionately affect extreme minority figures.
StickiStickman@reddit
Yes, that's literally how random sampling works.
Dreamerlax@reddit
Only if shows Radeon in a bad light!
Hytht@reddit
data is there only if users submit hw info through survey, not everyone on steam does
WaterLillith@reddit
Of course, just like any other polling data.
Strazdas1@reddit
Which also get things wrong most of the time so theres that.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Looks like that might be the case. If you filter by Linux the 9070 vanilla + XT are over half the install base of the 7090XTX, which would put them around 0.26% in the OS-agnostic stats, but they don't even show up at the bottom of the list at 0.15%, so either Linux users are 67% more likely to have a 9070XT than a 7090XTX or the data is funky.
nukleabomb@reddit
9070/9070XT are present at 0.85% of the LINUX install base. The LINUX install base accounts for 2.57% of the total steam player base. That would make Linux users of 9070/9070XT - 0.022% of the total player base.
Also 7900xtx was the only RDNA 3 card on the steam survey for ages. And they're only 0.51% overall.
It's just a small group of people who actually buy AMD. Even JPR's GPU shipments say the same thing. For Q1 25, when both blackwell and RDNA 4 were being sold to AIBs, Nvidia sold 92%, and aMd was a 8%
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Your math ain't mathing. .85% of the Linux install base is over half of the XTX at 1.6% of the Linux install base. Assuming a relatively even distribution of Radeon 7XXX and 9XXX flagships among Linux users and the general population, the 9070 should appear on the combined list a little over half of where the XTX is - that is, around 0.26%.
nukleabomb@reddit
Linux player base =/= Linus +windows + mac player base.
If you sort by windows only
Under vulkan systems: The 9070 shows up at 0.16% and 9070 gre is at 0.02%
Under dx12 systems: The 9070 shows up at 0.08%
Under dx 11 systems: The 9070 shows up at 0.08%
Under dx 10 systems: The 9070 shows up at 0.08%
Seems like they are being counted just fine, but do not cross the 0.15% threshold to show up under the overall steam userbase.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Hence why I compared 2 AMD cards.
But there are windows users of these cards as well, and I would expect if not completely even ratios between Linux and combined OS at least within 50% or so between two different generations of Radeon flagship cards.
nukleabomb@reddit
Linux (for gaming) is a very niche OS compared to Windows. The distribution under linux definitely won't carry over to windows, where the majority of the "Normies" exist.
Plus the 7900xtx has been on sale for over 2 years now. It's hardly surprising that it has a much more significant share by now on windows. Since it was the first (and the only one) from the RDNA 3 group to show up on the steam survey.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Care to explain to me why you think windows users are more than 3.4x more likely to own an XTX than a 9070 given that on linux the survey reports that they are less than twice as likely to own an XTX? The cards are similar performance and have similar levels of Linux support - if there's some killer feature of the 9070 on Linux that would make it nearly twice as popular as on windows I would love to know about it.
nukleabomb@reddit
Because it's been out for over 2 years now. That's the big advantage.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
And the 9070 has been out 4 months and it's halfway caught up on Linux. Why not windows?
nukleabomb@reddit
Because Linux is a niche OS.
Windows is far more significant in numbers. Windows also includes all the "Normies" who just buy pre-built PCs and or just buy Nvidia because they're familiar with it.
The players on Linux are focused on Linux, and amd is a better option, especially since they have better driver support there. Give it a few months and the 9070 will overtake the 7900xtx and linux. By then I think it will even show up on the overall rankings.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Talking to you is like arguing with a wall. You keep regurgitating the same moot points like AMD being better on Linux when both cards used in the comparison are AMD.
nukleabomb@reddit
Look man it's not my fault you glossed over the part where I mentioned that the 7900xtx has been out for two years at this point and is now on heavy discount.
I keep mentioning the Linux being better point because you keep trying to extrapolate the linux player base to the wider windows player base.
SmashStrider@reddit
AMD finally crossed 40% in CPUs (and so, Intel dropped below 60%)
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
amd users should be happy about the survey but it tarnishes radeon. beautiful dilemma
AnEagleisnotme@reddit
Not really, the CPU situation is depressing, it was great 2-3 years ago
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
I would love to know why the cpu market today is depressing vs 2-3 years ago
AnEagleisnotme@reddit
2-3 years ago, intel and AMD were within a few percent of each other, and were basically equal in sales, that's true competition, and it's awesome. Now you can already feel the AMD stagnation, as they don't even need to try anymore
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
But cpu prices are lower & intel core counts increased. They're actually competitive in performance but the vcache is just magical. Intel doesn't have an answer to it.
justrichie@reddit
For the time being things are ok, not depressing like that other guy said. But if AMD continues to dominate in the long run it won't be good for the consumer.
As a consumer, the ideal scenario is for competing companies to be neck and neck, so they're forced to really innovate or undercut each other.
ResponsibleJudge3172@reddit
How is AMD stomping and getting 9% of sales different from Intel stomping and getting 90% sales?
Guio@reddit
Wasn't expecting Win11 to be that high (62.55%)
Dreamerlax@reddit
How so?
OwnWitness2836@reddit (OP)
A lot were thinking: "Why are gamers buying the 5060 8GB when there are better GPUs?"
Here’s my take- it’s not always about preference, it’s about affordability.
In regions like APAC (India, Indonesia, Philippines, etc.) and South America, most gamers can't spend $500+ on a GPU. Many have to build their entire PC within $700–$1000.
That’s why cards like the RTX 4060/5060 or RX 7600, priced around $250–$300, are in high demand. These cards are perfect for 1080p gaming, which still dominates in these regions due to cheaper monitors and overall system costs.
Quiet_Try5111@reddit
I am in SEA region and this is true. 4060/5060 is all most people can afford here.
f1rstx@reddit
also AMD is often is on par or even more expensive than NVIDIA offerings on smaller regions.
ShadowRomeo@reddit
Makes a lot of sense in those regions what most people play doesn't require above 8GB Vram anyway and it shows quite a lot, even in my friends circle who aren't that much into AAA gaming they only have entry level GPUs with 8GB Vram or under.
PrettyProtection8863@reddit
True, even in my country used card is still expensive
Sevastous-of-Caria@reddit
Look for Radeon graphics TM for mixup of AMD Gpus. There is a major bug on detection when same hw manufacturer igpu's get detected. (Intel+Intel or AMD+AMD the most popular same combo)
Thread for the curious
Quiet_Try5111@reddit
goes both ways. steam detected my 4070 as an amd radeon graphics because i have a ryzen 7600. if anything, the bug fix will favour nvidia more
Sevastous-of-Caria@reddit
Yes. I dont know how often you get called for HW scan or dis it happen all the time. But My friends 7900xt got thrice since its built steam called radeon graphics 3/3.
I wish valve took a quick look. This vendor ID shouldn't be a big bug to fix
NilRecurring@reddit
How often do some people get the hardware survey? I've had stram since the HL2 days and got the survey twice during its lifetime.
Batnion@reddit
All instances of AMD Radeon graphics/ (TM) actually decreased this time 0.1% for TM and 0.13% for non-TM
Hayden247@reddit
It doesn't always happen tho, I have gotten the survey every July since 2023 when I got a PC and it finds my 6950 XT despite my Ryzen 7600X iGPU just fine, it might ONLY screw up the vram data for me? It says it couldn't see but whatever.
Also yeah as a comment said it'd go both ways, it wouldn't only be Radeons getting counted as iGPUs.
XYHopGuy@reddit
happens to Nvidia too(happened to me) and it's not that it doesn't report the GPU. Video card description vs graphics driver iirc
No-Broccoli123@reddit
But but but Reddit and YouTube told me the 9070 was selling soooo many and Nvidia tricked us by selling nothing!
A_Biohazard@reddit
pretty sure that internet cafes in places like japan and korea all use nvidia parts which might inflate the numbers
No-Broccoli123@reddit
Nope objectively wrong,this has been debunked stop being in denial
Strazdas1@reddit
The internet cafe phenomenon happens and we still see it show up sometimes (look at chinese language variations, youll see chinese internet cafes hitting some months out of whack). They dont use any specific hardware though.
Raikaru@reddit
unless Nvidia gave away the GPUs or you can prove steam is counting the same pcs multiple times i fail to see how this is relevant
Quiet_Try5111@reddit
Steam is aware of this 7 years ago and has fixed this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/s/tOEiAcEY8N
Quiet_Try5111@reddit
Steam is aware of this 7 years ago and has fixed this issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/s/tOEiAcEY8N
Halluci@reddit
buddy do you really think the AMD cards aren’t on the list because Nvidia sold more cards and not because they weren’t added to the data yet lol
Strazdas1@reddit
The former, obviously.
rnvj42@reddit
They're present in the Linux data....
Quiet_Try5111@reddit
nvidia sells a lot of cards. based on their FY26 Q1 report, their gaming revenue is $3.8 billion (10% of their revenue). even though 10% is a small percentage, it is about 6 times bigger than AMD gaming revenue of 0.6 billion (16% of their revenue) and more than AMD’s entire data center revenue (3.7 billion)
XYHopGuy@reddit
check earnings reports
Halluci@reddit
I'm not implying AMD sold more, just that they sold at least enough to be included in the data at all lmao
XYHopGuy@reddit
doubtful. Took them a very long time to show up last cycle and their gaming sales are down.
jasonwc@reddit
So, how do you explain John Peddle Research data reporting Nvidia had 92% share of discrete GPUs globally, versus 8% for AMD (compared to 88/12 a year ago). The Steam data is completely consistent with the John Peddle sales data. In addition, if you look at GPUs used by Linux users, the 9070 and 9070 XT are shown as a single entry at 0.85% (but Linux overall only represents 2.5% of Steam users). The more likely explanation is that the 9070/9070 XT haven’t surpassed the 0.15% share necessary to be broken out for the overall GPU listing . We saw the same thing for RDNA3. It took quite a while for any of the GPUs to show up.
nukleabomb@reddit
I think that comment was sarcastic
ShadowRomeo@reddit
Proud echo chambers can be very loud making you think that they are the popular one, especially with tech reviewers such as HUB posting on Twitter about how the 9070 series entirely outsold RTX 50 series entire line up.
But obviously that is proven wrong now nowadays and they are very silent about it now.
NGGKroze@reddit
absolutely checks out. Early rumors around 5060 release was that by it's 2nd week Nvidia already shipped over 50K units to system integrators. Hate it, love it, Nvidia knows how to sell and who to sell.
AMD is selling to gamers, Nvidia is selling to everyone. Despite all their BS, driver problems, missing rops and fire hazards, folks still see the value in the Nvidia offering.
I'm now more interested with the potential stir next year - If Nvidia Super refresh happens in 2026, will AMD release UDNA/RNDA 5 in 2026 as well or they will wait for Rubin and release there. If it's the first, AMD will claim gaming crown as UDNA almost expectedly will be fast than Blackwell (maybe bar 5090). If they delay to wait for Rubin, Nvidia will reign with it's super GPUs and become even more dominant. Also given what Super cards might offer, they will be very compelling, so new users will strive to get them and we will get ton of second hand Blackwell.
I don't think AMD will do refreshes of 9000 series (like rumored 9800XT or even 32GB 9070XT). In any case RDNA4 should be seen as a first step in a progress, rather than the miracle AMD needs to get back in the game.
UDNA need to land the RDNA4 in improvements, but this time more stock AMD, so you can keep your prices competitive, because we've seen that Nvidia -50 didn't work time and time again. Nvidia -150$ could have worked, but given the whole fake MSRP fiasco and low production volume, it was so overpriced, that 9070XT being even -150$ didn't matter.
Now I have a suggestion for AMD (not that it matters :D ) for UDNA. AMD will probably also restart the branding/naming and could do a sneaky one, doing UDNA 1000 series to remind of the goated Nvidia 1000 series
AMD will have no choice but to give VRAM if Super refreshes rumors come to life. But those above also depends on what Nvidia will do with Rubin (this is also why I think AMD will again release after). Also, Nvidia on the same Node (but higher TDP) managed to muster 15-25% performance increase. Now on a new node shrink and advancements, AMD should set their target goals for Rubin to be at least 30% improvement at the very minimum and a bit of headroom for 40%.
nukleabomb@reddit
Do we have any rumours about rubin at all? It seems completely shrouded in mystery.
UDNA needs to be big, and blackwell being a poor uplift generation is a godsend. However UDNA also needs to have future proofing, unlike RDNA 1. Turing has aged far better than RDNA 1 and the same is true for ampere and ada over RDNA 2 and RDNA 3.
hsien88@reddit
wonder what is this -
NVIDIA Graphics Device----0.41%+0.41%
OwlProper1145@reddit
If i had to guess this months survey got a bunch of people who don't have drivers properly installed or something.
jEG550tm@reddit
Arguably it's intel with the potential to be exciting now with the Ultra series
OwnWitness2836@reddit (OP)
Likely a new laptop GPU . not fully detected by Steam yet.
triemdedwiat@reddit
Sound device on Linux is very likely to be wrong Every time they polled any of my systems, they list GPU HDMI which doesn't work.
joe1134206@reddit
9070 xt would show up if they sold it near the advertised price 😭😭😭
OutlandishnessOk11@reddit
$3000 5090 at 0.19%, meanwhile 9070xt still MIA.
No-Broccoli123@reddit
https://x.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1896424499400307150?t=Bm04b5yAV05fvQInKKhrLw&s=19