I’m just trying to live my best life until it all collapses around us.
And by “best life,” I’m not climbing Everest naked or riding a whale through the ocean. I mean I’m sitting on my couch eating potato chips, and playing Elden Ring.
I was playing with the NOAA sea level rise function the other day, and planned at least 3 trips to state parks that will become State Ocean soon enough.
Same. I was determined to visit Venice now before the damage got any worse. It was truly beautiful and I’m so grateful and happy I got to see it, but it was honestly a chilling experience to witness the water bubbling up through the floor grates in St. Marc Square.
How is it for non-gamers? I couldn’t use a real gaming controller for the life of me, but I do enjoy playing Civilization (no coincidence that game stops at 2050)
Despite what others have said, the gameplay is brain-dead easy. It is my favorite game of all time, and it is very polished and approachable gameplay-wise. The AI enemies are very easy to deal with, as the mechanics don’t change much throughout the game. It’s the only game I’ve ever beaten on the hardest possible difficulty, using mostly bricks and bottles the whole time. It’s really about the story.
Oh it would be hard, even on the easiest setting for a non-gamer. It’s suppose to be the post apocalypse, so resources are extremely scarce in the game.
I play on the hardest difficulty where resources are very scarce, so there’s situations where I’ll have like four bullets left and six enemies running at me the same time and all you can do is run, it’s unbelievably intense.
Just set it on easy mode. Zero shame in that. You can always turn up the difficulty if you find it not challenging enough to keep you engaged. You'll still have the story and the gorgeous apocalyptic scenery to enjoy.
Same. Don't have much but am in relative peace with the simple life. I miss Elden Ring. Trying my hand at RDR2 because the only noticeable 'tech' is the telegraph lines in the country. Saint Denis is the only place in the game with smoke stacks. Takes place in 1899.
I finished RDR2 for the first time right before I began playing Elden Ring. I loved blasting up trains while wearing legendary gator skin attire and a pig mask. Lol
I only watched the first two episodes out of six, so I can't say yet. So far the plot is plausible, there's plenty of Nicotero gore and general "ruined city" doom porn, so I am enjoying it.
Aw man I love Elden Ring like at least we got to experience the height of videogames before it all goes down. Shadows of Erdtree can’t come soon enough. Can’t wait for Armored Core 6 either.
I got high af last week and bought Pikmin 4, the game honestly slaps, this year has been amazing for video games. All I keep thinking is that all this shit will be gone someday, possibly soon, so enjoy it while it’s here.
It’s been a great couple of years for games. People complaint a lot on the gaming subs, but I play to a of great stuff. Especially some AA and indie publishers. Lots of material for the oncoming collapse!
I play with friends near my camp up north. They are old time Mainers and can play cards and board games for hours. Simple pleasures. I have nothing but four chairs and a folding table to sit at in the middle of a small cabin and a couple solar lanterns or my coleman but we have fun. They put aside the cards last night to shell fresh peas for dinner and slice radishes while I grilled chops. Took some measures for future cabinets and critiqued my fishing tackle for good measure. No body was on the phone but we are older country folk so this is normal. I laugh cause we are seniors but still get in the truck and explore the dirt roads, they know all the good spots and their idea of a good road is pretty edgy. If gas gets tight, I guess I will go back to horses as I rode and drove for decades until my 60s. Just stick with small draft instead of my big boys I logged with. My daughter would go crazy up here without her global network. But it's a different time for her.
The question is why you are not living your best life instead of wasting your energy on playing computer games? There is still a lot of amazing stuff to see out there before it all goes. This is the doomer attitude that is being upvoted so much here and is so popular. Go out and enjoy because it's still all out there.
You: "Why don't you guys just stop being so poor and travel to see the world"
It's this out of touch mentality that got everyone in this mess in the first place.
It's only a waste of energy playing computer games, to people who think it's a waste of energy playing computer games. There isn't a big bag of Meaning and Value. You go out and enjoy yourself iff that is what you value. In the end, the gamer and explorer will rot in the ground with absolute biological equality.
> In the end, the gamer and explorer will rot in the ground with absolute biological equality.
Yes, but the explorer will not be the one dooming or acting as if we are already living in the Fallout game universe because the world maybe collapsing but is by far not yet collapsed and one should make use of it. You can still game in a silo but you will NOT be able to experience the amazing nature that is still around you for long. In this sense, gaming is an absolutely ridiculous waste of energy now because it is conducive to constant dooming.
You use the like the ten most popular logical fallacies as your main form of argument lol. You’re not breaking open any bubbles just proving how cloudy your own is.
Funny how you attack my "logical fallacies" yet you keep silent on the entire sub of collapse dooming away into infinity based on a very troubled user base projections of their own problems in life.
Logically if the nature won't be there soon but computer games will, the nature should be enjoyed first and it's the nature - not computer games - that is wired directly to our genes to make us well and comforted.
I understand the logic. It makes sense to me. People are not logical. I have some friends who simply do not like being outdoors. Period.
People doing what they want with the time they have is not doomerism. Being logically suboptimal is also not a problem. People are different. Let them be different.
I'm letting everybody be anything they want. All I'm saying the doomerism here has its origins in the psyches of the majority of users here who refuse to face their own shadows and just externalize their depressions.
This reminds me of my first Easter egg hunt as a child. I was two. All the other kids were older, including my six year old sister. I toddled over to a beautiful cerulean egg lying in the grass just for me. I sat down with it, peeled it and ate it on the spot, my empty basket tossed aside, my mother and sister yelling at me to stop and go find more. I was perfectly happy with my one egg, and it was delicious.
That's how I get through life. Treat everything as a wonderful mystery when I can. Especially paths through woods! Easter eggs! The color blue! The sky! Ants! Dusk! Dawn! etc!
Enjoy! Playing this atm, for I think the 5th time. Beautiful game in every sense. Arthur’s feelings towards the “civilized” world really resonate, especially now.
> I mean I’m sitting on my couch eating potato chips and playing Elden Ring.
If I did not need money for food and housing, this is what I would be doing all my waking hours (except different games).
Saem.
In the Phillipines, contemplating on waiting for the temporary ban o 5.56 or 7.62 x 39 to being lifted or bite the bullet(lmao) and buy the Sig MpX AR9.
Though game-wise, get an Oculus QUest 2 or 3.
Super worth.
I have bought a ton of games last couple months and haven’t played like any. Bought off the Microsoft store. Should have bought physical copies but that store is so convenient.
The governments of the world and elites are sly. They cause a problem and come up with a "solution" to fix said problem.
I'm scared to think what they are going to do to make people believe in aliens...
I wish there was something we could do. That’s what keeps me up at night which causes me to do less than if I had been able to just surrender to the tides and sleep better. I still want to enjoy the end, end thought it may be.
Gotta remember, one foot in front of the next. Regardless of the outcome.
I recently cut my hair. I'm going to get my first tattoo. I am starting to do all the things on my bucket list. At this rate I know our time isn't long and I'm going to make the most of this time.
It's not about being a burden. It's about not wanting to suffer. Life during and after the collapse will be very difficult. People have every right to choose when they want to go. Please learn to respect their decisions.
I'm going to walk around in the fires, dueling tornados, flamboyantly massive hypercanes, and haboobs saying this peacefully with my arms out-spread while people run around in a raging panic. It'll be funny.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj5\_EVbRk\_4&ab\_channel=Channel4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj5_EVbRk_4&ab_channel=Channel4)
I'll be wearing a dressing gown like Manny from "Black Books"
Am I the only one who actually looks forward to the end? Like the collapse of society, humans becoming less in numbers, nature reclaiming what belongs to it etc?
Surely I can’t be the only one?
I don't look forward to it, however it's a punishment we deserve. Unfortunately there will be those in the poorer global south who suffer that didn't deserve this.
I wouldn’t see it as a punishment more of a cause for our actions - and without a doubt there will be people who tried to live in tandem with nature giving and taking only what they need who don’t deserve it. But a large majority of us do. Unless we’d be okay with no cities, no transport, no plastics the list goes on.
Electric vehicles are all good until you look at the amount of cobalt you need to mine to make one battery. It’s just more pollution in another part of the world that us in the west cannot see. (Mainly cause it’s mined in Africa) but ya know 🤷🏼♂️ humans will be humans and considering 50% of the world population doesn’t have the capacity for self reflection im honestly not surprised.
It’s just crazy at the this point to continue on the path we are on. It benefits no one apart from the majorly wealthy really and even then it doesn’t matter. No one has a spine anymore to stand for something, everyone just cares about their own survival rather than the survival of us all. A ticking time bomb that I can’t wait to see - the fall of modern humanity.
The end has arrived, or September, whichever comes first. If September wins, we get to ignore this for 9 months. Well, aside from random weather stories from Australia.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/15c1cac/who_needs_to_worry_about_wildfires_now_suck_it/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=2
I did the meme
SS. The end has arrived. Good job I have been vegan for a decade, haven't driven a car for 3 years and shop at a local waste free store, otherwise this could have happened about 30 seconds sooner. Related to collapse because fire makes it difficult to vote for a politician who pretends to do something.
I live in an inner city in South West England. There are good cycle lanes, bus routes and two train stations. Lots of nearby shops, the doctor's surgery is on my road and a dentist too. Work is about a 20 minute walk.
Yep. My employer pays a private insurance for staff to have free dental care and eye care, you know the luxury parts of the body not covered by the NHS that you use for such frivolous activities such as eating and seeing.
It costs £25 a month for them and I pay £12.50 a month. It also includes my wife's eye and dental care too.
Ah that explains it. I'm also in the SW and our dentist has just gone 100% private. Won't even see my kids who have been going there since they were babies. Birmingham is the closest NHS dentist I have found.
Aren't Drs refusing to take NHS just the expected response? What's their incentive for taking it at all?
The US has similar problems with our closest service to the NHS, Medicaid. While it's publicly funded some Drs just refuse to take it as an insurance because it pays them so much less than if they take private.
I suppose taking Medicaid/NHS could be a pre-requisite for accepting public loans for their college...
Its such a scam out here, there's one doctor/dentist who takes medicaid, and they keep quitting, so everyone's appointments get cancelled, it takes 6mos to get a new one, they get overloaded and quit, everyone gets their care even further behind...
Yeah basically if you live in a city you are sorted , in most towns it’s easy to go to nearest city but gets variably harder to go elsewhere and even then it’s only if you live in the centre of a town. Trains only really useful if your destination is on the same line , because once you start messing with changing trains the cost and time involves start to sky rocket.
Geography can make it weird - I can drive to work and it’ll take 15 minutes tops , but if I caught a bus then it’d take nearly an hour due to needing 2 buses and it’d cost me £8 a day with the current capped fares. Or if I want it to be cheaper I can get one bus but that involves a 30 mins walk to a different stop , then 30 mins travelling. And if o find I need any shopping after work then tough luck because it’s not like you ask the bus to idle outside Sainsbury’s whilst you pop in.
Our cargo e bike has been an absolute game changer. We use it for things we used to take a car, like grocery shopping.
Close enough to bike to, but now we have the carrying capacity.
I’m Vegan not for the fate of humanity but for knowing no animal will suffer pain fear and a brutal death on my behalf. I feel in the little time I may have left it’s the least I can do…
I am a farmer and I grow legumes and cereals. You can't imagine how many animals get killed by combine harvesters when it is harvest time. All kinds of birds, small mammals and insects get killed as they are too slow to escape. Makes me sad every time
There was a report that came out years ago stating this but it was eventually debunked and retracted by the author.
Lots of anti-vegan activists still cite it (even though the bulk of farming exists to prop up animal agriculture).
Interesting to hear your antidote as the other side of the argument says that small animals are quick to scurry sensing danger when harvest is near. I sometimes wonder what the actual truth here is, although i still side with causing the least harm.
I am not anti vegan. I grow organic farro, lentils and fava for human consumption. Have no idea about studies but it definately is true that lots of creatures die during harvest
That’s because the system was designed around maximizing harvest amounts and profit not really with animals or the ecosystem in mind. That’s not your fault, obviously, but if the systems weren’t designed around strictly profit I’m sure we could design ways to minimize the harm done.
Nice, there's only so much you can do and you did more than most probably would lol I learned mowing fields for a federal job that starting from the middle and working your way out gives animals warning and pushed them out instead of in, not sure that can work for fields of crop though
I feel your pain. I was going to say, I used a paper straw once a few years ago. I mean, I thought about using one. Well okay, I used a plastic one. Guilty as charged. I still think about that day though sometimes, what if.. what if I had used a paper straw instead? It still haunts me to this day, as I gaze out towards the horizon at sunset, the smoky haze of perpetual wildfires turning the orange sunset into a fiery angry red. I cannot help but think, this is my fault.
>The end has arrived
[Cheer up!](https://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/mayan-bar.jpg)
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>**Generation Dread: Finding Purpose in an Age of Climate Crisis - Britt Wray**
>
>The world has ended for many people, many times before. Where are the Mesopotamians? The Mayans? The Easter Islanders? It is certainly too late for them. The endings are ongoing and they occur at different scales. Thinking of what we’re faced with as one big punctuated ending for our species doesn’t only abandon the future, it forsakes the past. As Robert Jay Lifton writes, “Hiroshima was an ‘end of the world’…And yet the world still exists. Precisely in this end-of-the-world quality lies both its threat and its potential wisdom.” We learn from each apocalypse and sensitize ourselves to do better at preventing our worst fears going forward. Fittingly, the Greek root for “apocalypse” means to reveal, lay bare, unveil, or disclose.
Cognitive dissonance is the pain of those contradicting ideas and sentiments. The problem arises from how people solve cognitive dissonance, and there are several strategies. The one which I find most disturbing is called "compartmentalization" or as I call it *split mind*.
I feel like nobody is making a problem out of the fact that we’re all going to work in 100 degree weather with public transit often having no air-conditioning
It feels increasingly unnatural and inhumane lately, much more than it usually does. Is this really our life? Stuffing ourselves in to heat pockets like sardines to barely get by? When is enough enough?
They're going for maximum despair so they can impose Stockholm syndrome, isolate you from everyone, take everything, and claim they're your "family". If they're anything like my workplace.
Here's a hint. Buck them on anything or fail to produce at maximum for three weeks and see how much they're your "family".
I have so much anxiety over the environment. It literally keeps me up at night. Reddit is the only place I tell anyone about it. Everyone in my life is just going on with life as usual, making plans as usual. I try to bring it up as a topic of discussion and get brushed off. Maybe they are freaking out too, and no one is saying anything because there isn’t much to do anymore except enjoy life while we can. When I was younger I had an inkling of hope that the world governments and other powers that be would get it together and help change things around, when there was still time. I contributed in all the small ways an individual could. Seeing how COVID just made these companies and governments worse/greedier, I feel hopeless and stuck.
I feel you. I went through that last summer. If it's any consolation, after you accept our fate you can make funny memes about it and enjoy some gallows humour.
Haha this. Thanks for making this post, it made me literally lol. If I'd seen this maybe a couple or a few years ago, perhaps I would've been depressed. But now I've entered a kind of "fuck it, lol" and "yolo" phase of acceptance about the state of the world and climate change.
Speedspectator, this post about the psychology of people dealing with climate change might help: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/22/climate-crisis-fear-psychology.
I'll be playing Armored Core 6 next month. It's set in a post apocalyptic and desolate wasteland. Nice to see whats in store for us, besides the 10 meter tall mechs that is.
What's funny is that all the stupid security guards and mercenaries protecting rich people are going to be left behind out of the bunkers or the safest places
This reminds me of a piece I read a few years back: https://www.popsci.com/environment/douglas-rushkoff-survival-of-the-richest/
*Why do you think they’re gonna protect you after your money is worthless?” Rushkoff remembers asking his billionaire desert hosts of their private security forces. From there, the men began grasping at straws. “At that point, it was shock collars and guard dogs and combinations to the safes,”*
You still gotta exist. My cynical misanthropy doesn't have the best cash flow on its own. But maybe there's a market for a cheap George Carlin impersonator.
If we had any sense, we would all be told to go home and spend the rest of our time with our families. If I didn't feel like I owed the people around me, I would have walked out of my job by now. The 1% got their money, got their jets, get their mansions, got their yachts, what do they still need us for?
How do I know things are getting serious?
Serenity is starting to set in. When events get so dire, it becomes a confirmation signal.
It will be different for every individual, but 2023 was my signal.
Between the Antarctic ice, the Northern Hemisphere Ocean Temperatures, and vast portions of our land base on fire at once, this year was the inflection point for me.
Were not making it back. Were not going to pivot. Were not going to act. Were not going to shift culture.
I really do believe now the conversation about “stopping climate change” are platitudes at best, and make belief in reality.
I think we committed to a inhospitable version of the future.
i've lived in new york for most of my 40 years, never seen smoke from forest fires change the color of the sun at mid day before, but it was a new, interesting experience! May you live in interesting times.
I've lived in some part of the PNW for most of my 40+ years, and I saw the smoke change the color of sun at midday ~10 years ago. It has, horrifically enough, become a "normal" thing for me now.
<Attention Signal> This is the *USE* of the Emergency Broadcast System. The broadcasters of your area, in voluntary cooperation with the FCC and other authorities, have developed this system to keep you informed in the event of an emergency. This IS an emergency, this *ISN’T* a test.
We now return you to your regular programming.
My calmness comes in pill form and lil dropper bottle form.
Keeps me nice and even if I make sure to have just enough uppers to not get drowsy.
I dunno what level of collapse you're at but that's where I am
Well, the fires are happening outside, so according to some noble laureate it couldn't affect the GDP by more than 10% (since 90% of economic activity takes place indoors)
Some of my favorite extreme bands rn
Darko US
Enterprise Earth
To The Grave
Alpha Wolf
Brand of Sacrifice
Also two classics that should be required listening, As Blood Runs Black’s Allegiance album and just everything by All Shall Perish.
I'll make a post and a longer list but for now:
After the burial - collapse
Fit for an autopsy - black mammoth (/entire the great collapse album)
The acacia strain - the lucid dream
Check out the band Periphery. Like half of their music always, in my opinion somewhat inevitable in today's world, are lyrically themed around the spiritual aspect of a horribly disconnected human race. But finding connection in that lament, it's just a great spectrum of collapse related music.
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
"petrodragonic apocalypse" and "infest the rats nest" are both about the consequences of destroying the earths ecosystems
The Devil Wears Prada has made two zombie themed EPs, but a lot of the lyrics in said EPs are about the end of civilization and collapse in general. Definitely worth checking out
Additionally, I would offer you two Meshuggah songs: Future Breed Machine and New Millenium Cyanide Christ. They both are about the future of humanity and collapse/technology taking over.
Cradle of Filth - Suffer our dominion
"The ability to sustain life on earth is shrinking in perfect unison with rising population. Soon, half of all species will be lost to climate change and ecological collapse due to human activity. Thus we either reduce our race voluntarily or nature will do it for us, and she will be fucking brutal"
Nightmare by Polaris released yesterday. All about collapse. https://youtu.be/v_XhxONGEJc
The chorus:
We’re living in a nightmare. A pre apocalyptic wasteland. Is there no one who can save us if we refuse to save ourselves? Our best intentions paved our path to hell.
That Polaris song is so fucking good. I’ve listened to it like 6 times this morning. That break down after “somebody kick the chair and fucking wake me up” gives me chills.
Thank you so much for this recommendation. Been going through a tough time lately and music is such an awesome release.
You’re very welcome. It’s helping me too. Also been going through a dark time. Keep your head up and reach to those around you or on here for a shoulder. And give Polraris’s first album The Mortal Coil a listen. A perfect album with their follow up The Death of Me also being great. If you haven’t heard The Dark Pool by Thornhill, also a 10/10 album front to back. And my favorite band Invent, Anímate put out a 10/10 album with Heavener this year.
Hope things improve and get better, my friend
Not metal buts it's an amazing song, Carbon by VNV Nation
"I can't see this all as progress
How did we come this far?
When we see ourselves as deities
Claiming nature for ourselves
By our actions we betray
The instincts in our race
By our blindness and stupidity
We kill everything"
The entire discography of King Gizzard and the Lizard wizard. If you want to stay in the metal lane, the albums 'Infest the Rat's nest' and 'Petrodragonic Apocalyps' would be perfect. Also the song 'Gaia' from the Omnium Gatherum album is great
Just think about how many generations of people lived without even knowing what the Fermi Paradox or a Great Filter was. We get to see first hand as we ram our planet headfirst into that wall.
Eh, the lead pipe theory of Roman Empire collapse would argue otherwise. Lead toxicity was well known in ancient Rome, but, making pipes to transport drinking water around out of toxic waste was cheaper, and more profitable for already rich owners of silver mines.
Oh, thank god. I've been waiting. I'm glad I was born in 1986 to see this all go down at a nice middle-ish age. I've kicked all my substance addictions and worked out all my ego bullshit. Now I have a perfectly clear view of the present. I'm fucking stoked. LET'S GO!!!
No no it’s my fault, my husband insists that he can’t sleep unless the house is at least 71 degrees at night in the summer. We tried installing solar panels to compensate but there has been no sun because of all of the wild fire smoke.
The only good thing is timing. The process can take years or even decades and we will suffer through bad and terrible times but there will also be ok times. Life will be much different than today but there will still be good times especially at the beginning of the Collapse.
This has been my line of thought. We (my family) will make the most of what we have. We will always be able to find moments of joy and happiness even if all we have is each other's companionship.
Life boats are for oligarchs and oil Barron's first.
Please form an orderly line and if there is room AND you have an ability to serve those first class passengers, maybe you can be saved
I listen to that song, really loud, every time I'm in public. I LOVE that song. What a funny coincidence. Gotta make memes for Fall Into Sleep and The Vengeful One now. They've got the same message. I take full advantage of every opportunity I get to play these for everyone to hear. 😁😁 because they need to hear it
There's a lot I wish I could have done before we got to this point.
But honestly? I realize there are a ton of other people with regrets and missed opportunities so I'm not the only one.
It’s going to be awful but it brings me some comfort to know it will be even worse for the idiots who are having 6 kids and believing in a Republican Jesus.
Not everyone gets to see the apocalypse happen in real time. Live a life of being the prettiest flower on the last burning branch of the tree of all life on Earth.
🔥🔥✌️😌🌺🤙🔥🔥
What is crazy to me is the recent polarization when it comes to the potential future of our civilization.
On one hand there are the increasingly worrying climate developments.
And on the other hand there are things like the development of AI and now possibly super conductors at room temperature and pressure.
Potential positive and potential negative factors are both becoming more and more extreme. As if we are heading for some sort of (anti?) climax.
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