SLI VOR is u/s but approaches are still using it and I can still identify it

Posted by Sweet-Ad-3199@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 9 comments

There is a notam right now that says SLI is unserviceable, But I can still hear the Morse code identifier.

Many of the departure procedures in the area that use SLI say RNAV is required right now, as well as approaches that use it for identifying fixes.

Yet KFUL VOR-A continues to be in use. I was under the impression that u/s means you can't use it, but I was also under the impression that if you can identify it then you can use it.

Is u/s more like "possibly unreliable" or is there some kind of mistake?

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TheDrMonocle@reddit

Gotta read the whole notam

VOR UNUSBL 017-027 BYD 40 NM BLW 18000 FT; 028-038 BYD 40 NM; 075-085 BYD 40 NM BLW 8000 FT; 075-085 BYD 48 NM BLW 11000 FT; 075-085 BYD 65 NM; 086-123 BYD 40 NM; 124-134 BYD 40 NM BLW 4000 FT; 124-134 BYD 48 NM; 125-180 BYD 30 NM BLW 4000 FT; 135-145 BYD 40 NM; 183-193 BYD 40 NM; 245-256 BYD 40 NM BLW 5500 FT; 245-256 BYD 57 NM; 278-282 BYD 40 NM; 321-016 BYD 40 NM.

Are you trying to identify it from further than 40miles on those specific radials? The VOR is still operating just fine if you're closer. Its operations further out below specific altitudes that are affected.

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Sweet-Ad-3199@reddit (OP)

ok I understand thank you, it’s weird that there isn’t a specification of ”unservicable in certain areas“ or something when all you see on the surface is

!SLI 06/016 SLI NAV VOR u/S 2506300604-2509252111EST

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Rainebowraine123@reddit

The VOR is indeed notamed completely out. Are you sure they're doing that approach?

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Rainebowraine123@reddit

That's not the correct notam. There's a separate notam that its out.

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Due_Algae7380@reddit

Where are you reading all of that? That just looks like a copy and paste from the AFD. OPs reply is the full notam

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flyingron@reddit

You don't indicate which approaches you are talking about but even if the VOR was completely dead, that doesn't mean the approaches have no use. Unless the VOR is providing the final lateral course guidance, you can substitute GPS for it.

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x4457@reddit

The VOR is providing the final lateral course guidance on the approach in question.

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tehmightyengineer@reddit

u/s more like "possibly unreliable"

Yes, it might still be available but isn't working fully or reliably.

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rFlyingTower@reddit

This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:

There is a notam right now that says SLI is unserviceable, But I can still hear the Morse code identifier.

Many of the departure procedures in the area that use SLI say RNAV is required right now, as well as approaches that use it for identifying fixes.

Yet KFUL VOR-A continues to be in use. I was under the impression that u/s means you can't use it, but I was also under the impression that if you can identify it then you can use it.

Is u/s more like "possibly unreliable" or is there some kind of mistake?

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