Accurate | TheaterFire

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Rivas-al-Yehuda@reddit

I am hoping the newest one is good. I never go to the theater anymore, but I am planning on seeing this one.

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Darnell2070@reddit

Are you saying this from experience or are you talking out your ass?

Are you one of those people who rates movies without seeing them too?

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lebrilla@reddit

There's 7 of them because the first one was successful. They're cash grabs. I'd rather see something original. Member berries.

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It’s not terrible. To be honest I enjoyed more than the other “worlds” movies. I saw it as a “secret showing” at amc last Monday and I think it was ok to good. It is closer to a horror movie than the other movies have been.

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low_end_AUS@reddit

It will be as good as the other new ones, which is to say it will be garbage.

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Righteous_Babe_98@reddit

My friend and I went to a mystery movie last week that turned out to be a surprise sneak preview. I saw the original in theaters and haven't loved all the sequels, but that said, this was just a fun action movie. Scarlett and Jonathan Bailey were good, and I really think the actress who plays Isabella is going places. It's nothing like the original, but I enjoyed it. Would definitely recommend.

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benergiser@reddit

how would you compare it to jurassic world?

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Righteous_Babe_98@reddit

Personally, I think the casting is much better. I'm not a Chris Pratt fan. Unfortunately, I don't remember enough about Jurassic World to give a more complete answer. Tbh, I'm a very casual moviegoer with ADHD who just goes with friends for the fun of it.

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BalrogRuthenburg11@reddit

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Devium44@reddit

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Luna_Rosey_@reddit

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He_Was_Fuzzy_Was_He@reddit

"Hollywood finds a way "

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TheNumberoftheWord@reddit

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The first movie is essentially a horror movie. None of the other ones are and in fact go to great lengths to erase the one thing that made them horror: fear of the dinosaurs.

Essentially? We couldn't tell by how horrifying Trex is. Common, you aren't making a unique claim here.

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MushmallowSprinklees@reddit

The movie studios follow the same ambition of Richard Attenborough's character in Jurassic Park.

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Circle-of-friends@reddit

I think they took totally the wrong message from the first film. It's like a panel of writers went "ok what are the major themes in JP1" and came up with "big dinosaur" and "messing about with DNA". Yeah they're big themes, but the biggest theme is shock, awe and that nature cannot be contained and will always devolve in to chaos.

So now every single reboot of this shockingly vapid series is bigger dinosaur and they've been messing with the DNA again! Who the fuck cares. Dinosaurs are cool on their own, why do we need robo genetic dinosaurs. It was a plot device in JP1 to explain how they made dinosaurs, it was not meant to be THE plot.

I think JP2 has actually aged really well here for the reasons above. They carried on the themes of nature cannot be contained, and went King Kong with the two T-Rex's stomping around San Diego (yes I had to look that up). Are there new bigger dinosaurs? No. Are they messing with DNA? no. Are there new an interesting themes on man's struggle to harness and contain nature and it totally devolving in to chaos and anarchy? Yep. Is the film good? You know what, it really is. Watch it again. Ignore the gymnastics scene.

JP3 is where it started to go wrong, but it's still not a terrible film. They had to go one bigger with a Spinosaurus, and even had it killing a T-rex just to show all the idiots in the audience that it was a bigger dino. Like the predators hadn't been ignoring each other on the island for years before the humans turned up. It's not terrible because it was kind of doing something new at the time - but really in hindsight it offers absolutely nothing new other than big new dino is scary, parents have to go there for some BS reason.

After that it just decends in to bland terrible boring. I can't even remember all the films, not sure I've seen them all, they're all the same. They went "Big Dino" and "Messing with DNA" and thought they were the themes that made the franchise good now so what's a bigger dino than Spinosaurus? Oh nothing really.. so let's make one up! And let's make it invisible! Why are we doing this? Who cares, let's print some tshirts! Absolutely god awful terrible film with 0 redeeming qualities and the whole franchise after JP2 will be forgotten in a few short years.

4) There’s a man named Eddie (he’s an engineer in his early 20’s who works for the person who makes field equipment; it isn’t his company like in the film),

5) There’s a secret, second island with dinosaurs that serves as the “factory floor” despite the fact we’d been shown the hatching operation in the first story.

There’s a couple of sequences from the book that got adapted such as the cliff scene and a raptor hunt in the long grass (it was just one guy getting hunted in the novel) but like 90-95% of what’s in the film came from Spielberg’s head and not the book he’d essentially commissioned.

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GrookeyGrassMonkey@reddit

A) Thank you.

B) I think we all agree that none of the sequels hold up to the original, but would you consider the 2nd film passable or just as bad as the other 4?

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FairyKnightTristan@reddit

I'm not the other guy but I really enjoyed it, Jeff Goldblum is a charismatic actor and it is a decent follow up to the first film, in spite of a lot of its weird flaws.

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No_Procedure_5039@reddit

I personally enjoy the second film though part of that could be nostalgia. It was darker in tone, upping the fear factor with the dinosaurs (there are fewer man made structures to hide in and the long grass scene shows us exactly how lucky the characters in the first film were to only have to deal with three raptors) and even had a more reserved Ian Malcolm who’d obviously been changed by the events of the first film. It’s not perfect by any means (a lot of the characters that are supposed to be competent make really dumb decisions for the sake of the plot) and I’m not sure I’d even put it in my top five for film sequels but I enjoy watching it every once in a while. Also, I will die on the hill that Pete Postlethwaite’s Roland Tembo is one of the best characters in the 30+ year history of the film franchise though.

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Circle-of-friends@reddit

It would definitely make sense

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serabine@reddit

It's typical for franchises.

The first movie is like a really nice ice-cream Sundae. Nice base flavor, chocolate sauce on top, sprinkles, my god, the sprinkles. People go wild for it, and it sells gangbusters.

Then, the next summer, the ice-cream parlor wants to catch that same lightning in a bottle and wants to make a new version of what people liked. 2 Ice 2 Cream: Sundae Drift, if you will.

They remember that people loved the chocolate sauce, and craved those sprinkles, so they add a shit ton more of both. The more, the better, right?

Only, it's still the same amount of ice-cream, but now it's drowning excess. You're lucky if you catch a bit of ice-cream in a spoonful of chocolate and sprinkles. The ratio is off, because all the people in the parlor just remembered the flashy stuff and forgot they are in the business of selling people ice-cream.

With movies, it's the same. People loved these characters in the first one, expand their parts! People enjoyed the action pieces. Bigger, longer, more elaborate set pieces! Meanwhile the plot, the connective tissue is an afterthought

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Chronic-Bronchitis@reddit

Damn! Using their own words against them.

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c4ctus@reddit

That was beautifully written.

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BrutalistLandscapes@reddit

This is basically a critique of capitalism. It saturates, bastardizes, and tarnishes everything in the name of profit.

Same tale with Star Wars, Marvel, podcasts, cable news, social media like YouTube, and Reddit, now that it's publicly traded.

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AndyW1982612@reddit

But capitalism is what creates things like Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Marvel, podcasts and social media.

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BrutalistLandscapes@reddit

Capitalism also occurred under a government that allowed lynching, race riots, enslavement of humans, and destruction of generational wealth (through destroying property and business) earned by black Americans to all go unpunished for multiple generations through the entirety of US history.

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AndyW1982612@reddit

Imagine how much worse it would have been under a socialist system.

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BrutalistLandscapes@reddit

That's a pretty dismissive and evasive response. I laid out specific, factual examples of how capitalism in the U.S. has coexisted with systemic racism, violence, and the erasure of generational wealth from Black Americans. Unlike your reply, these aren't hypotheticals, but historical realities.

Saying "imagine how much worse it would have been under socialism" completely sidesteps those examples and replaces them with a vague, unprovable hypothetical.

If we're comparing systems, we should predicate it on actual outcomes, not fear-based speculation. No system is perfect, but pointing out capitalism’s real and ongoing harms doesn’t mean blind endorsement of another system. However, we should question the assumption that capitalism is morally or functionally superior just because it produced entertainment or tech platforms. Those things also existed while deep inequalities were perpetuated, which is the whole point.

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AndyW1982612@reddit

Socialism has coexisted with systematic violence every time it is employed. As a matter of fact it is the direct cause of systematic violence and requires violence and fear to employ. Central planning requires violence and fear to operate. Capitalism does not.

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While historically true, I am not sure if we still have to have capitalism in order to have democracy, relativ freedom of speech and all that jazz or if at this time in history capitalism becomes a danger to the democracy and freedom it helped to create.

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Regnbyxor@reddit

Capitalism hasn't really created much of the freedom and the democracy as we think of it today. Capitalism was part of the material condition that allowed the capital class to unchain themselves from aristocracy and monarchy, and to do that they needed a form of government that would support their class needs and avoid new autocracy's that could rob them of their wealth again. It was still very much a democracy for the rich, especially globally, and in many ways still is.

Gaining freedom of speech for all, right to vote for all and overall economic well-being, 8 hour work days, 5 day work weeks, and (in most western countries) paid vacation is a lot of hard fought battles AGAINST capitalist interests.

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f_reehongkong@reddit

There are no serious contenders to capitalistic models yet (keyword: yet). And most countries don't have pure capitalism and are mixed economies to balance out the extremes of capitalism.

I'm not sure why you'd think it was a critique of capitalism when its clearly about the hubris of man and the desire for greatness overriding basic safety and responsibility. There were much more profitable ways to use that scientific breakthrough that wouldn't have led to people getting eaten, so to imply it was the fault of capitalism is a non sequitur unless it's your own personal bias that you're trying to push.

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BrutalistLandscapes@reddit

I'm not sure why you'd think it was a critique of capitalism when its clearly about the hubris of man and the desire for greatness overriding basic safety and responsibility.

Unless this is the throwaway account of the person my original comment was intended for, how are you certain that's what they meant? Also, capitalism does lead to men desiring greatness and overriding safety/responsibility. That was the Gulded Age, until Marxits overthrew the Russian monarchy and socialist ideology began to grow in the West, which motivated Western governments to social welfare measures and better worker's rights and workplace conditions, culminating in Roosevelt's New Deal policies after the Depression.

There were much more profitable ways to use that scientific breakthrough that wouldn't have led to people getting eaten, so to imply it was the fault of capitalism is a non sequitur unless it's your own personal bias that you're trying to push.

It's funny that if you change "eaten" to "dehumanized/lynched/financially ruined/racially oppressed," you could easily substitute that paragraph for the history of capitalist USA.

At least the Soviets never pretended to be a democracy that claimed moral superiority over other nations while actively oppressing millions.

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fraggedaboutit@reddit

Yeah, bad things only happen because people can privately own the means of production, and every other cause of bad things can be twisted to blame it as a root cause. Personal bias much? "Capitalism leads to men desiring greatness" like they couldn't possibly conceive of such a thing without a profit motive 🙄

There's plenty of valid targets for your criticism, like health insurance and energy infrastructure, but popcorn movie sequels are not it.

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BrutalistLandscapes@reddit

Yeah, bad things only happen because people can privately own the means of production, and every other cause of bad things can be twisted to blame it as a root cause. Personal bias much? "Capitalism leads to men desiring greatness" like they couldn't possibly conceive of such a thing without a profit motive 🙄

I never said that. My point is that capitalism isn’t inherently prosperous, and that the conditions within a capitalist system can be altered to do the exact opposite of how it's supposed to theoretically work.

In praxis, the capitalist system of the US is controlled by a specific demographic perpetuating a Eurocentric racial hierarchy that can never be defined as great since millions under it have been racially oppressed since the beginning.

Ironic, since capitalism in America was founded on the enslavement of the people most excluded from the rewards of that system. American capitalism has always been exclusionary.

There's plenty of valid targets for your criticism, like health insurance and energy infrastructure, but popcorn movie sequels are not it.

Why is it invalid to critique the US entertainment industry when discussing capitalism?

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Blitz100@reddit

The Star Wars sequel trilogy was hot garbage, but a lot of the spin-offs have been incredibly high quality. Similarly, a lot of post-Endgame Marvel has been arguably kinda bad, but not only has it been a mixed bag, pre-Endgame Marvel was also a capitalist (and highly profitable) endeavor.

Terrifyingly accurate.

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RowResident9229@reddit

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I mean the Lost World was a Crichton book too, people don't like that one either and it's pretty faithful to the book too

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YouTee@reddit

The lost world book has nothing to do with bringing a tyrannosaurus on a boat to San Diego to fuck around in people’s pools or whatever.

I love both and am glad for their differences. Trying to make a faithful adaptation of the books with 1993 technology just wasn't gonna happen which no doubt influenced the film's direction.

Also, book Lexi on screen might've been too much, lol. The unhinged public would've given the poor girl acting the role a complex or 12

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Sipikay@reddit

It wasn't a lack of technology, they simply stripped out core characters and story lines from the book.

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Baked_Potato_732@reddit

Somehow, Malcolm returned

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alex3omg@reddit

It's not remotely faithful to the book TBH.

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ColdPressedSteak@reddit

There were some dumb parts but I at least had some fun with Lost World. Similar'ish with 3

yeah.. when I heard the sequels were coming, my comment was that the first movie was good because of the unknowns.

They're gonna go and start trying to explain things, they are probably screw it up because you only get one chance to do it right.

My example at the time was one word. Midichlorians.

They went from Superman The Movie, straight to Superman 4.

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

Spaceballs: The Allegory!

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DaniTheGunsmith@reddit

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Effective_Bug_4924@reddit

Okay, Dr. Malcom.

I can’t vouch for all of it (haven’t read Never Flinch, I’m not sure if it’s out yet) and haven’t watched all of either show. But I love the Bill Hodges trilogy!

If It Bleeds is slightly weird because it’s supposed to take place in 2020 but was published in 2019 and nobody, not even Sai King saw covid coming. I really liked Holly, partially because I started in the middle with The Outsider and only then went back and read/listened to the Hodges trilogy

I’d actually agree with that. I almost said I’d swap those two in the order but I didn’t feel like drawing my post out longer 😆

NightWriter500@reddit

The book sequel was written for the movie. Not sure if you were around then, but when the movie blew up like it did, they pushed to write both a book and a movie and they came out almost simultaneously.

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Not_MrNice@reddit

The T-rex got loose in San Diego because it's just fucking King Kong. Just like Crichton's The 13th Warrior was Beowulf.

No idea why that scene was ridiculous, though. Seems like a decent spectacle for a finale.

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firestepper@reddit

I love lost world… but ya Crichton leaving the series should’ve been the end

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hamburgler26@reddit

Lost World I think is pretty solid up until they went all Godzilla in San Diego. The third one is completely wrecked by Tea Leoni's character just being impossibly annoying.

Original JP is 11/10, one of the hundred greatest films ever made. Maybe even top 50.

Lost World is an 8/10. It doesn't live up to JP or Schindler's List, but if this wasn't like, prime Spielberg, we'd give it a lot more grace. It's charming, tense, a little dumb, and jarringly shifts gears, but if you're like "this is just a loving tribute to creature features" for the last half hour, it's fine enough.

3 was rough. Not awful, but very symptomatic of its era. A weak 7/10, vs Lost World's strong 8.

Jurassic World was also a solid enough 8/10. Didn't do too much exciting, had some silly ideas, but it had gravitas and looked good.

Fallen Kingdom breaks my heart. The pieces were there for a really unique and beloved film, but instead, we got what seemed like soupy leftovers. Probably a 6/10, which annoys me, because I wish I could love it.

Dominion is weird. It kinda flails about for purpose and tries to set off a setting change that feels unearned, and the ending is messy. Another weak 7/10

The latest film would really be hard pressed to be significantly worse than 3, Fallen Kingdom, or Dominion. Most reviews seem to be putting it... about on par with 3, from everything I'm hearing. So like... it's not good, but it's still in the better half of the franchise.

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fearless-fossa@reddit

The one thing I quite liked about Jurassic World was its message about how the executives want more teeth more excitement and how quickly people bored off of something as fantastical as dinosaurs being resurrected. It was the only movie after the first one that actually had something to say.

If only Chris Pratt's character, the raptors and the kids were removed it could've been a perfect Jurassic Park successor. There was a lot of good stuff present here.

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cosmoceratops@reddit

During the T-Rex scene, my brother and I were hiding under the seats screaming and my dad had to take us home

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According_To_Me@reddit

I have a warm, father/daughter day memory tied to The Lost World. I’ll always love it.

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forfunstuffwinkwink@reddit

The movie was perfectly enjoyable. It was fun. My kids loved it. Sometimes, that’s fucking good enough.

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BrattyTwilis@reddit

I don't know. I thought the first Jurrasic World was decent 🤔

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look at her when she did nosedive in black mirror. she deliberately gained 30 lbs for the role and it wasn't muscle.

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Greengrecko@reddit

What's the issue here? She's hot

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luxtabula@reddit

there is none, we're talking about the same thing

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Greengrecko@reddit

Huzzah a man of culture.

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The assistant death is the one that always bugged me. These things are too weak to lift a kid or a baby dino but a grown women?

That's just bullshit. Also dropping her into the pool was just another bullshit thing like there wasn't any way it could of lifted her that far just to drop her. They're the size of a parrot for fakes sake even the largest birds today of the same size can no where near lift something with that disproportionately weight size.

Even the dinosaur flying was all blurred out and fake as fuck. It was without a doubt a very bad scene and bad writing like the very least they could of used more lines and idk actually be useful in the situation.

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LumplessWaffleBatter@reddit

Rip Morgana

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hannahjapana@reddit

Apparently she asked for a death like that but they edited out the scenes where she would “deserve” it

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External_Priority@reddit

Thats the only movie I ever walked out of in Theater. But the lego game is great.

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Cyno01@reddit

Theres things to like about 2, 3, and 4 at least, theyre not completely terrible movies...

But the OP is absolutely correct that every single one has been inarguably worse than the preceding one. But the OG is one of the greatest movies ever, so they had a long way to fall at least.

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Willing_Actuary_4198@reddit

I like lost world but it's all downhill from there. Og is still the best by far

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

Nice it's quite the collection. Who could have guessed that the 1954 film was going to spawn all this. Btw what's your favorite Monsterverse film?

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disaster_moose@reddit

King of the Monsters is the best monster verse movie. I just wish they didnt do the over zoomed shaking camera during the first godzilla vs ghidorah in the ice scene. And I could have done without the cheesy "This time we join the fight" jets fly in while godzilla is walking scene. For me, that was worse than 11 having a smirk on her face when godzilla shows up to save her from ghidorah

As a kid, I really loved Return but felt it was kind of mid on rewatch as an adult. I think godzilla vs destroya is my favorite from that era. Original godzilla is great and still holds up today, but my favorite from the showa era Is Terror of Mechagodzilla.

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Rafnar@reddit

guess you've never seen the ghidorah movie from the 60's. where godzilla teams up with 2 other monsters to fight ghidorah to defend earth

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

I for sure have. But those films aren't in the Monsterverse, which is what I'm talking about.

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

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Drachen1065@reddit

Had a coworker get mad at me for saying I've seen them all and enjoyed them.

Once they hit streaming/online i watch them. They rolled a nuke around Rome and sent and Fiero into space. I gotta know what crazy happens next!

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Stonk_Lord86@reddit

🤣 I have heard about the space travel. It’s gone super next level. Die Hard started all of this exponential super hero growth in action movies (The Office talks about this). John McClain was a regular cop in the first Die Hard. By the end, he’s jumping cars into flying helicopters to take them out. Things get real, real fast in the movie word. 😂

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Drachen1065@reddit

They just turn into generic action movies at some point.

AgressiveInliners@reddit

And i keep watching them

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

"Thing that many people enjoy keeps getting made" just hits differently. :D

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szthesquid@reddit

Partly the name does a lot of work, but literally no one else is doing dinosaurs at this level of budget and effects quality. If you want human-dinosaur action you literally have no other choice than to hope this time will be good.

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sysdmn@reddit

Not every movie needs to be good. Sometimes having good looking dinosaurs is all that matters.

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Several_Vanilla8916@reddit

I do wonder who is watching these. I have clear memories of going to the theater for the first one and loving it. I can’t remember anything about the second but I’m sure I saw it in the theater. The third one…I don’t think I saw. But I do remember a single dinosaur attacks San Diego and can’t be stopped. That I remember. So I must have rented it?

_a_random_dude_@reddit

That explains why they keep making them, but not why they suck. Do you think they would they earn LESS money if they were good? Would they even cost more to make?

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Optimal_scientists@reddit

It's a net good imo. Keeps kids interested in Dinosaurs and science broadly and tends to have decent messaging in caring for the environment and greed. And it markets well across lanugage barriers too.

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BarcodeNinja@reddit

It's the McDonald's of movie franchises.

Hot synthetic garbage inside a disposable package that appeals to a large number of people who for whatever reason don't want to think about what they're eating for lunch.

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Baldazar666@reddit

Look at Mr. Movie critic over here who cannot fathom that some people would like to see movies that are just action with some cool dinosaurs. Not every movie needs or has to be some deep thought provoking shit.

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fraggedaboutit@reddit

Some people don't get that there's a huge section of the population that gets exhausted from thinking and they enjoy turning off their brains completely. Like they don't want to ponder the ethical dilemmas or consider the ramifications, they want to laugh at a farting ass for an hour or two.

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Ok_Frosting3500@reddit

I think part of the problem people are having is this isn't Bayformers or Fast and Furious. JP (and to a lesser degree, Lost World, and Jurassic World) all acted like they had things to say.

The fact that they are pumping these out without building them around messages and commentary is what leads to a lot of the friction. Some people want Dinosaur Go Brrr, but the folks here for High School Elective Philosophy/Ethics are feeling left out in the cold

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They're high budget b-movies, even the first one.

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imtired-boss@reddit

The Giganotosaurus slowly walking around/towards the entire main cast instead of like you know, do what a predator does and eat them was just fucking hilarious.

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Fletcharoonie@reddit

ahh I was wondering why Scarlett Johansson decided to do this movie. Thank you.

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Mother_Speed2393@reddit

Yep.

People will continue to buy tickets to absolute trash it seems.

The problem for me is that you wouldn't be saying that if it was a really great story. You'd be having an even better time because of the great story.

"I'm just enjoying myself"

"You're the problem with society!"

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njelegenda@reddit

He unironically is tho. If there weren't millions of people like him with 0 impulse control and no concept of delayed gratification we would all have better products in every industry and category and he could still enjoy himself.

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call-me-germ@reddit

i enjoy myself enough. making insanely broad speculations about my character because i’m okay with just watching a shitty superhero movie with my little sister is such a crazy assumption. like delayed gratification? because i go to the movies once every 2-3 months and watch whatever people said is popular? you’re comically dumb

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njelegenda@reddit

What is broad or a speculation about this?

Is it not a fact that when a huge amount of people like you knowingly support shitty movies that there is going to be even more of them?

Is chosing something shitty just because it's there instead of waiting or coming up with something better to do for fun not an example of both bad impulse and gratification control?

Also going to see a superhero movie every 2-3 months means basically going to see all of them so what are you even trying to say.

You're free to have fun and take my character insults as just some asshole on reddit but when people say someone like you is what's ruining movies (and many other things) they are absolutely right.

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The rose-colored glasses on Reddit about how movies “used to be” is always so funny to me because popcorn flicks have always existed lol. The 70s 80s and 90s had tons of mindless or low quality or non-memorable movies. People just think it was better because only the best movies from the past survived the years and are still rewatched today.

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Mother_Speed2393@reddit

No. You're missing the point.

There are no original big blockbusters being made anymore (Jaws, JP, etc)

Because of stupid comic book movies, existing IP and trash taking up all the oxygen.

Yes there have always been bad movies being made.

I guess there are a lot of people out there who will consume anything given to them regardless of quality. The movies all make a billion dollars.

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hiplobonoxa@reddit

our lives are in your hands and you have…butterfingers?

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luxtabula@reddit

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There are much less good movies now because the industry can take less risk and make more money making jurassic ass w/ antman 12

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Mother_Speed2393@reddit

Yeah, but there are almost never any good blockbusters anymore.

Like Jaws, like the original JP, etc.

Because people will got to see trash and existing IP.

RathVelus@reddit

The only one I wasn’t completely entertained by was Dominion. I only realized later that it was because it’s a Resident Evil movie I was unprepared for. I now enjoy it.

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Illustrious-Lead-960@reddit

So far I’ve still seen 1 and 3.

BalrogRuthenburg11@reddit

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BooRadley_ThereHeIs@reddit

This is what the Raptors are always thinking.

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budrow21@reddit

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VG2326@reddit

And the Fast and Furious “series.”

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cash8888@reddit

Damn I needed this laugh thanks

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BobbyGuano@reddit

I thought the first “world” reboot was solid and is the only decent sequel. The rest are trash.

The thing I loved about Jurassic World Dominion in addition to the combined cast was the subtext. Sure, the cast was great as usual. The dinosaurs were a convincingly chaotically neutral source of action, which is the main draw, of course. But what I unexpectedly loved about the movie was that, at every point in the movie, people you thought were neutral, or bad guys, helped the good guys. The good guys couldn't win until people ostensibly working for the bad guys secretly shared information or assisted the good guys in some way. There are countless true stories from WWII of good people who resisted the Nazis, from teenage Audrey Hepburn smuggling resistance messages in her ballet slippers, to Schindler saving Jews.

In the United States in the year 2025, we need good people working for the bad guys to resist as best they can, or the good guys might not win this time. You know who you are and who you're working for. What's happening in this country is wrong, and you on the inside can do...something, to expose, deny, and obstruct their actions and plans. To quote Casablanca, another great movie, at the end when Victor Laszlo says to Bogart's previously neutral Rick: "Welcome back to the fight. This time, I know our side will win. "

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luxtabula@reddit

you can't do that, you need dinosaurs to sell toys.

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S1ayer@reddit

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Watch Digimon, then.

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SynapseNotFound@reddit

Dinoriders. late 80s cartoon.

amazingly silly but great fun

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rob132@reddit

Not to be confused with Dino saucers.

Or Denver the last dinosaur.

Or the show dinosaurs.

The '80s really love dinosaurs.

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Mlabonte21@reddit

“Thinkin’ Machines, Super Computers…”

I was at the grocery store in Canada this weekend and there was a small dinosaur that was maybe a foot long and the price was $75! It didn’t talk or make noise or anything, it just had Jurassic park branding

The original was one of the best movies of my childhood.

SealingTheDeal69420@reddit

Yes it was. The only thing going for it was the nostalgia bait. That's it. Everything else was abysmal dogshit, frankly. Who gives a shit about locusts

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Ok_Frosting3500@reddit

I would personally give it a D, because I can't stand the pandering, and they don't live up to the promises of the interesting set pieces that could come from the change in setting, and despite bringing back a lot of cast, very few of them feel "like themself".

But I feel like if I'm going by audience scores, it's probably a cozy C, because you get to see casts fron both trilogies, the dinosaurs still look good, and it does play at tying everything together. Basically, it does the job a Jurassic movie is there for, it just trips over itself and doesn't elevate itsaterisl at all.

(The flip side of this is Lost World, which I would say most audiences would call a B-, but I would call an A-, because as a fan of a lot of schlock, I can let the stupidity of two scenes (gymnastic raptors, T-rex in the city) flow past me, and the rest of the movie is kind of a banger if you so, and is one of the only sequels that really looks at a cohesive message (Does created life still have rights? Is there ever a context where ecoterrorism is okay?))

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J_arvid@reddit

Imo, it was mostly because of a convoluted multi-point plot system they were using

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rodimusprime88@reddit

It's a race between Jurassic Park and Fantastic 4 in this category

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Ok-Walk-8040@reddit

Well, at least the rollercoaster is good.

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TrayusV@reddit

What made Jurassic Park so special was the animatronics, the fact that the dinosaurs were real effects.

Assignment_General@reddit

Hate to be that guy, but I saw the preview for the newest one and it just looked incredibly fake. The characters just looked super imposed on a green screen and anything not human didn’t look real.

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The Lost World is almost as good as the first in my opinion, in some ways better.

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Thommohawk117@reddit

This is my approach. Every time I think about watching one of the sequels, I remember the first movie exists and rewatch it instead. I get roughly exactly the same story in its best possible form.

I get why others watch the sequels and I am glad they exist for them and enjoy them. But one is enough for me.

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Thomas-Lore@reddit

This is just sad. Rewatching a movie over and over again because you can't face anything new.

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Thommohawk117@reddit

If I want to see something new, I watch another movie.

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Hot-Guard-9119@reddit

Nah, you're with the majority of people. Just look at how much money each movie made. People love these movies.

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georgeb4itwascool@reddit

Must have been tough for you as a kid, loving dinosaurs, when all your peers were into sensible automobiles and stock portfolios.

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Trick-Station8742@reddit

irrational love of dinosaurs

The dinosaur designs actually got worse after 3.

juneshowers@reddit

Throw it all away (except the first 3)

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anjowoq@reddit

Now that is a well-used meme.

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K4G117@reddit

Wow, i went in way too optimistic

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F1McLarenFan007@reddit

Cmon making shit isn’t easy

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drntl@reddit

It’s an instant billion dollars. Probably the best movie brand out there. Make the same CGI movie every 16 months and you get a billion. Even marvel has stopped making that easy money.

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CruxOfTheIssue@reddit

Man I didn't think that I could have a good opinion about marvel fans but you're right. They're smart enough to see through the bullshit. Star wars fans would be in the same boat but they fucked up the sequels so bad that it's not a sign of intelligence to not like them.

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Pleasant_Rough_1771@reddit

You'd think they'd learn, but Jurassic Park sequels are apparently the cinematic equivalent of a drunk driver hitting the same tree every Friday night.

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semajolis267@reddit

I actually really like dominion. It, like jurassic park before it, was looking at a current scientific ethical problem, i.e. ownership of genetic information as abused by corporations like Monsanto, who copyright genetic information and abuse the court system to monopolize farming.

As well as briefly touching non the exotic animal market being super sketchy

The subplot with blues baby being a wierd anomaly that everyone is surprised by when thats literally what happened in the first movie, and the clone daughter thing are all just an excuse to write in Owen and Claire's character into what otherwise would have been a good sequel to the first two movies.

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DangerousArea1427@reddit

hey, but at least they did something right hiring Bryce Dallas Howard and ScarJo in lat ones

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Mindshard@reddit

What's funny is I started out by reading the original books long before seeing the movies, and the movies really don't hold up. And I'm not talking the new movies, I'm talking all the way back to the beginning.

Back when they changed Hammond from being a narcissistic conman, back when Sarah Harding was a tough, driven woman who not only survived a murder attempt, but literally used a rex to murder a guy!

The first 3 movies were complete mashups of the 2 books. The first movie ended up rushed, skipped a lot of the most exciting parts (the rex with the raft on the river in the upcoming movie is pulled all the way back from the first novel, but that part was also used for the third movie with the bird cage), and the entire things just felt disjointed in a way that people who didn't start with the books wouldn't notice.

But in the end, I enjoy them for what they are, enjoyable movies with dinosaurs. That's it. I'm not expecting my life to be changed.

I gave up on that franchise after the lady adult babysitter got killed in such a weird way.

I mean I knew some people were going to get chomped, it's a Jurassic Park movie. But they drew it out, it was basically violence porn. No thanks.

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SynapseNotFound@reddit

They're supposed to be entertainment

not some life-altering art piece

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0sqs@reddit

The only sequel I ever saw was Jurassic World. It was gorgeous to look at, but the plot was fucking stupid.

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McSchlub@reddit

Looks awful.

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Putrid_Carpenter138@reddit

Can anyone tell me if they are still doing the clone baby storyline. I thought Jupiter ascending had the worst plot i had ever seen until that movie....

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But people keep going to see them, so why wouldn't they lmao

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Annanymuss@reddit

Doesnt help that people keep going to watch them making the industry still produce more of what people willingly buy

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AliveInTheFuture@reddit

That quote from Reloaded is one of my very favorites in all of cinema. It's this absolute, hard-coded, fuck-you to Neo, that he's powerless against what's coming.

Anyway, that's not about the awful Jurassic Park sequels my wife loves, but it's something I'm really happy to see used as a meme.

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Tyrannoss@reddit

There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept

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Aselleus@reddit

The first one is in my top 10 movies, and I've found the subsequent sequels pretty mediocre, and the Jurassic world movies extremely forgettable (though I never watched the one about... a cloned girl, and bees? locusts?). I thought it was supposed to be a dinosaur movie.

Anyway, the reason why the first one was so great was because it was a suspenseful/horror-esque, grounded in realism (well as real as a movie about dinosaurs could be), and the ones after are just straight up action with increasingly absurd plots.

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Own_Function_2977@reddit

This is the most accurate meme I've seen in....an hour.

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Tiny-Reading5982@reddit

I will be seeing it on my birthday 🤷🏼‍♀️