Confusing RAM labeling – 6000MHz vs 6000MT/s (Corsair vs Kingston, both CL30 DDR5)
Posted by Taykendo@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 13 comments
Hey folks,
I came across something odd while comparing two DDR5 RAM kits — both listed as 64GB (2x32GB), CL30, and rated at 6000, but with different terminologies: one is marketed as 6000MHz, the other as 6000MT/s.
Example kits for reference:
- Corsair Vengeance – 64GB (2x32GB), 6000MHz, DDR5, CL30 – CMK64GX5M2B6000C30
- Kingston Fury Beast XMP – 64GB (2x32GB), 6000MT/s, DDR5, CL30 – KF560C30BBK2-64
Now, I know that technically MT/s (mega transfers per second) is the correct term for modern memory, and MHz is often just marketing or shorthand — especially since DDR stands for "Double Data Rate." But what confuses me is the number of people (in forums, videos, etc.) who claim that something like "6000MHz" is misleading and could actually mean 3000MHz real clock, equating to 6000MT/s effective rate. Others say both terms are interchangeable in these contexts.
So I wanted to open this up for a technical discussion:
- Is there any meaningful difference between these two labels — 6000MHz and 6000MT/s — when used in marketing materials for DDR5?
- Is it safe to assume they represent the same effective speed when the CAS latency and timings are also the same (e.g. CL30)?
- Are there vendor-specific behaviors (e.g. with Corsair vs Kingston) that affect how XMP profiles behave, even if the advertised specs are identical?
This seems like a subtle but important distinction, especially for people comparing RAM kits for performance-sensitive tasks. Curious to hear from others who’ve looked deeper into this or had real-world experience comparing similarly specced kits with different labels.
3G6A5W338E@reddit
6000MT is correct, 6000MHz is a lie.
Exist50@reddit
You could reasonably argue that MHz doesn't have to refer to a clock signal, and it does do 6000 of something (transfers) per second.
3G6A5W338E@reddit
If the intent is to confuse latency and throughput, sure.
Delivering 6000M of something per second is throughput.
Nothing (absolutely nothing) is actually delivered 6000M times per second with these ram modules. That is why it is so deceptive.
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SignalButterscotch73@reddit
You said it yourself, double data rate. The clock speed of both kits is 3000MHz but being DDR it's 6000MT/s
If it was single data rate it would need to be 6000MHz on the clock to manage 6000Mt/s
6000MHz is kinda true but also archaic marketing left over from the transition from SDR to DDR in the early 2000s.
RealThanny@reddit
The unit MHz in the first instance is simply wrong.
Since nobody advertises the actual clock speed, just replace MHz with MT/s in any RAM rating you see in the description. If there's a detail section that's labelled "Clock Speed" and you see an impossible value (e.g. 6000, because there is no DDR5-12000 memory), you know the people who put that together are idiots and are claiming the transfer frequency as the clock frequency. If you see a plausible value, then you have to dig deeper to know the actual speed of the memory. In all likelihood, the transfer frequency will be part of the main description, though.
rtyuuytr@reddit
No
You have to look at the sub-timings also. Both are 30-36-36-76 at 1.40v. Note that there are CL30 RAM running at 1.35V. These are identical.
Taykendo@reddit (OP)
Maaan, thanks. I'm running AMD and didn't knew about this!
rtyuuytr@reddit
I recommend some 1.35 CL30 ones unless these two sets are dirt cheap.
Taykendo@reddit (OP)
https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/tuf-gaming/tuf-gaming-x670e-plus/helpdesk_qvl_memory?model2Name=TUF-GAMING-X670E-PLUS
This is a QVL list, right? I found the Kingston (KF560C30BBK2-64) that I want to buy on the list, so that means it's completely safe to use, right?
On the other hand, I didn't find the Corsair (CMK64GX5M2B6000C30) that I used in the problematic build. Does that mean the RAM could be the issue?
When I run CPU benchmarks using AIDA64, the PC shuts down.
jmhalder@reddit
MT/s and MHz are effectively the same in regards to memory marketing terms. MT/s is the more "accurate" term, but there is no practical difference.
People who nitpick this are the people are the same people that will correct you and tell you it's actually a 32GiB/Gibibyte DIMM. (which is true, but also annoying)
Taykendo@reddit (OP)
Thanks a lot! Was worried of buying a downgrade of something I had for 1 day lol
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