We just had an emergency Landing on

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ddom737@reddit

What level of english proficiency is required to qualify for an FAA pilot certificate?

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JeffreyDollarz@reddit

I'm usually cursing at 6000ft too. Very normal.

/S

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Boomerdog69@reddit

When you wait to curse at that altitude you need to make sure your WTF’s are holding steady and not fuckuating. That’s when the GTFO’s get out of hand……

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livebeta@reddit

You got your game on late. I'm usually cursing at 0 AGL

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Interanal_Exam@reddit

Hell, I curse everything when I'm at GL.

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astral1289@reddit

When you are cursing at 6000 ft do you remember how sentences work?

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PillarOfLogic@reddit

A lot of posters in this sub don’t know how sentences work even when they’re not cursing at 6000’.

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0O00OO0OO0O0O00O0O0O@reddit

Probably lots of English as a second language folks too.

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AccomplishedExtent29@reddit

Were you composing this voice to text post at the time?

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Final-Muscle-7196@reddit

Good job, was it just partial power loss or prop stop failure?

Let us know what happened

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bill-of-rights@reddit

Yes, please don't leave us hanging - the most interesting part of the story is yet to come - why did you lose power?

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300blkdout@reddit

Dunno man, the engine started right up just a few minutes ago.

the A&P probably

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No-Business9493@reddit

My flight school had endless write ups from instructors for engine roughness.... always because they just don't know how to lean the damn airplane correctly.

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Final-Muscle-7196@reddit

Should be in your tech log id assume? Edge of the seat here! Lol

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burnheartmusic@reddit

Ya, dude needs to work on his writing skills. Hoping he’s not a native English speaker.

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I would love to see how good your writing skills are in Chinese, Hindi, Spanish, etc... There is this idea that the entire World has to learn perfect English, usually from people who are fluent in just one language.

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No-Business9493@reddit

Well, aviation has an English proficiency requirement. So there's that.

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thegoatisoldngnarly@reddit

This opinion is very valid outside the world of aviation. However, English is the international language when flying and we all need to be able to communicate with it easily. This guy’s written English makes me question his spoken English. There’s always room for improvement.

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AgileBoot4561@reddit

Yes, it's the international language. For foreigners talking to ATC in other countries. But if, for example, this is a French guy flying his 182 in France, he needs to speak exactly zero English. The world is not just the U.S.

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thegoatisoldngnarly@reddit

My understanding is that the French guy would still need an aviation radio license to operate that 182, which would require English proficiency. I also wouldn’t want to be up there listening to ATC talking in English without knowing what they are telling people.

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AgileBoot4561@reddit

In many countries you will hear ATC communicate in local language. You will not understand a single word of what everyone else is saying until they call you up. No need to dramatize: We all understood what he said. Maybe his grammar is a little broken, but then again so it is in most posts from reddit to X. And to enroll for training he had to pass that English proficiency test. Draw your own conclusions.

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thegoatisoldngnarly@reddit

So you admit you were wrong when you said, “exactly zero English.” He had to pass an English proficiency to enroll in training.

I’m aware that pilots speak to ATC in their own language. It’s a hazard to situational awareness when non-native speakers are in the airspace, in my opinion. A few times, I’ve heard my callsign being said by ATC while speaking to another contact in the native country language (Spanish). It’s unnerving. Luckily we knew enough to understand that there was a traffic confliction and we had them on ADSB.

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AgileBoot4561@reddit

No, that's just what I said: A French pilot flying in France - as many other pilots flying in their native countries - can complete a flight without need to communicate in English at all. It is not unnerving. It is much safer than requiring tens of thousands of pilots to communicate in their second language. The proof is how many accidents have happened because this "hazard". None.

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thegoatisoldngnarly@reddit

You can literally scroll up and read your own comment. If you intended for it to say something else, you could work on your communication regarding the context of the conversation.

I get that it’s probably frustrating having to use a second language to communicate in the air, but there are many situations where you are a hazard to others, such as the example I just gave.

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AgileBoot4561@reddit

I get it. You are the arbiter of language correction. He has to work in his writing skills, I have to work in my communication. Fine... :) Still remember that this is the reality of flying in many non-English speaking countries. There is no "hazard". Lufthansa A350 pilots routinely communicate in German to German ATC and nothing has ever happened.

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Stahner@reddit

The comment literally says “hoping he’s not a native speaker” implying that it would be totally acceptable if he wasn’t a native speaker. You’re fighting against nothing.

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thrfscowaway8610@reddit

Amen, brother.

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minfremi@reddit

I always wonder what language has a rule where you place a space before the comma. I see it often.

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XGC75@reddit

I work on a very global team - Brazil, China, India, Italy, Poland, Germany, Mexico, etc. I see this a lot with my Indian colleagues. It doesn't matter what rank or how professional they are. I haven't looked up why that might be, but I always assumed it's not a rule in their native script.

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404unotfound@reddit

Okay guys. This isn’t necessary. It’s a social media post not a formal essay…I’d be willing to bet you’re not perfect either

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Individual_Energy_45@reddit

Classic redditors on here.

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bill-of-rights@reddit

Indeed - we redditors demand perfection from everyone but ourselves! :)

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Drunkenaviator@reddit

Yeah, why in the world would the guy need to be able to tell a story in a way that people could actually understand? That's crazy talk.

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UpdateDesk1112@reddit

You telling people how to think is not necessary. You may not believe in writing like you have an education but it’s important to some people.

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404unotfound@reddit

I’m not telling people how to think. I just think it’s mean to berate someone who just had a near death experience on what was clearly a quick rant post.

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Granite_burner@reddit

Not near death. They landed on an airport with a sick engine, from 6000’ of altitude 6 miles away. Heck my inflight engine failure happened at 4500’ of altitude 8 miles from the airport where we landed safely, and I don’t think my pulse rate even went up.

When I crashed my car in the snow I missed being killed by .01 second, or less than 12”. But injuries were not life threatening and I did not need life support so I’m not sure I’d consider even that a near death experience.

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SaySelah@reddit

if it’s important maybe a social media forum is not the right place to be???

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fishyfishfishface@reddit

I feel ya there. I was solo in my friends j3 piper cub and the engine died (no e start). I landed on my local slate dump i was very familiar with thankfully. We fixed it there and took back off lol

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MrChillGuy24@reddit

I would like to say anyone who’s worried about his grammar has probably never had a true engine failure, cause i’m pretty sure this is exactly what my official statement to the feds sounded like lol.

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aTOGAparty@reddit

Were you still panicking while writing this?

Longest sentence ever lol

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MrChillGuy24@reddit

i’ve had an engine failure and miraculously survived, his writing checks out lmao

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chadnorman@reddit

Was gonna say, happy OP is OK but maybe tighten up those writing skills... yikes!

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goodguyjim2000@reddit

Who was PIC for the controls? Did CFI assist or take over?

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Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit

why were you cursing if everything was normal?

You should have started cursing when the bad things started happening

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uberklaus15@reddit

Yeah, when you have an engine failure you have to remember ABCDE:

Ass!

Balls!

Crap!

Dammit!

Eat shit!

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Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit

actually, I think a few "fucks" are going to be in there, too

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DonaldFarfrae@reddit

That’s after 1500h and you learn ABCDEFFFFF…

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Icy_Huckleberry_8049@reddit

I think OH FFF would come before anything else.

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SevenSmallShrimp@reddit

Did you write this like right after landing?

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Kensterfly@reddit

I took a lot more away from the OP than sentence structure and punctuation. Give him a break. He made himself vulnerable by posting his inflight emergency. Most of you guys aren’t pilots so you have no idea what he went through.

Show a little grace.

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Puzzled-Camera-4426@reddit

what was the problem? did you find it out?

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External_Upstairs572@reddit

Wow… great learning experience for all of us

Thanks

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the50ho@reddit

Your controls.

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Vithar@reddit

I had a cylinder loose compression right after takeoff maybe 200ft up. Not a proper engine failure, we could maintain altitude, but not climb. Thankfully there was no obstacles in the area, and wind was calm so we just turned around and landed. As bonafide emergencies go it was pretty tame, which is fine by me.

I'm working on my IR, was doing a CX with my CFII, and I had my kid along, she sat in the back on the first leg, we got out stretched, and my CFII decided to sit in the backseat so my kid could sit up front for the next leg. When the cylinder failed there was a sort of shutter and power dropped off quite a bit. I heard a sort of whimper over the intercom from him, "your controls..." Debriefing after we where safely down, being trapped in the back seat was maddening for him. Its a real emergency your training kicks in and being the most experienced person present you want to do things, but are trapped in the back seat...

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not_listed@reddit

maybe 200ft up

Honestly that would spook me as much or more than OP's 6000ft engine failure.

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cficole@reddit

Good job. I can't help but wonder if the CFI took over, or talked you through it.

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shadeland@reddit

There was an old seminar on Youtube (I'm trying to find it) where the speaker talks about a series of crashes that occurred because the elevator or trim tab got stuck in the nose up position on a specific model of a commercial airliner.

Some planes crashed, killing everyone aboard. Some survived.

The answer was training.

There was one particular line in the presentation that stuck out to me (this is paraphrased from memory):

"Everyone in this room is smart enough to have come up with a solution to this problem... if given enough time. But there was no time. The difference was training."

Some pilots were trained in scenarios where they lost elevator control, they would use rudder inputs to tip the nose left or right which would also cause the nose to go down, to keep the plane from stalling. They were able to keep the plane flying and climbing until they came up with a plan. The ones that hadn't had that training suffered catastrophic crashes.

We train emergency procedures so we're not trying to engineer a solution in the seconds we have.

I've never had an airplane emergency, but twice I've had to use my reserve parachute when skydiving. It was pretty much a non-event because we drill emergency procedure into students and ourselves on a regular basis.

https://vimeo.com/user2576375

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iheartrms@reddit

I, too, avoid cursing during critical phases of flight.

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DriftKing_21@reddit

Glad you made it safe brother. Probably the most alive you'll ever feel lol.

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Nnumber@reddit

Good job.

Also grammar is the instrument flight rules of written language.

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k12pcb@reddit

That’s why we train

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DudeSchlong@reddit

Yeah I vividly remember my long solo XC during my PPL training. Was on the departure leg turning crosswind to depart the pattern, and at 500-600 ft I swear the engine had a hiccup. Heart immediately dropped, I was surprised I didn’t piss myself. Glad you’re safe!

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tomdarch@reddit

Where did you land? How do you think you did picking a spot from the air?

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Kdmtiburon004@reddit

It says they landed at an airport.

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tomdarch@reddit

Thanks - I spaced and missed that.

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geo38@reddit

we were so lucky that an airport was close by 6 miles

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tomdarch@reddit

Thanks!

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oldbutambulatorty@reddit

Good job. Just curious- Did the prop windmill? Do you know the cause?

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Guap-Zero@reddit

Did you have a stuck mic? Would like to listen to the Real ATC of the cursing

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thecodingnerd256@reddit

Not a pilot here so everyone feel free to tell me i don't understand how it works. Thinking about it and doing reading but definitely not knowledgeable. I am super impressed that everyone kept their heads on and recovered safely. Glad OP is ok and everyone is uninjured.

I am always under the impressions that airmanship is super important but that starts on the ground. It feels a bit strange to me to hear that there was luckily an airport nearby to land at. From my understanding when flight planning a series of alternates and diversion plans should be made in case of impassable weather and unexpected scenarios / emergencies. Additionally should the distance between alternates dictate things like cruise altitude to determine a safe glide slope?

Please don't take this harshly i am just trying to learn if this should have been accounted for in some way and is this a learning opportunity for OP?

Good luck with the check ride!!! I'm sure after this it will feel like a breeze.

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Wemest@reddit

There are a lot of small airports. Depending on the plane and altitude it can glide engine out for miles. If the glide ratio is 10/1 and 6000’ AGL they have at least a 10 mi radius. It’s typical in this case to declare an emergency and air traffic control will offer nearest airports and the bearing to it.

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tf1064@reddit

It feels a bit strange to me to hear that there was luckily an airport nearby to land at. From my understanding when flight planning a series of alternates and diversion plans should be made in case of impassable weather and unexpected scenarios / emergencies. Additionally should the distance between alternates dictate things like cruise altitude to determine a safe glide slope?

That's not really how it works. There is no requirement to always have a landable airport within glide distance.

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traffic_in_sight@reddit

If you’re asking if you should plan a cross country so that you’re always within glide range of an airport, not really. That’s rarely possible and probably impractical for most areas and routes. But when I’m on a cross country I am always looking around for possible places to land- usually off airport. If I look and see that an airport is in my glide range, that makes my decision a lot easier on where to land.

Other than that, know what you’re flying and when and where. If you are flying a single engine piston plane (most trainers) in IMC or at night, you probably shouldn’t fly over mountains. If you’re flying over mountains, add some extra altitude to give you time to troubleshoot further in case of an issue and glide to the most ideal possible spot, not even to mention avoiding mountain wave turbulence.

The only time I was ever nervous during training was a poorly timed route. At night over rocky terrain in a trainer, a very new and so far reliable trainer, but a single engine piston nonetheless.

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Emdub81@reddit

Glad you're safe, period. And one more period. Feel free to borrow a period.

I kid, I kid. Except for the safe part, genuinely happy for ya. I hope to never experience the real thing but, if I do, I hope to manage it as well as you did.

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shanihb@reddit

You just passed the real test; the checkride is just a formality.

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dhtdhy@reddit

Congrats on surviving! Idk what else to say haha

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riskyjbell@reddit

Glad everything worked.. good luck on the check ride.

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OnionDart@reddit

Nice job. You did great it sounds like! Take a load off tonight, and get back in the air soon.

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GengisGone@reddit

I take it English isn’t your native language, so I’m not gonna dig on you for any grammatical errors. Aside from that, that’s why we train so much! In the event we have that bad scenario where something actually stops working, we do what we have to do so we can all go home. If you were in the clouds while that happened, that’d definitely shake anybody up!

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rFlyingTower@reddit

This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:

I am IFR student and i was doing my cross country flight with CFI, 6000 ft cursing everything was normal till we heard engine sound changed and RPM dropped we went through emergency check list nothing worked in same time losing altitude , declared emergency and we were so lucky that an airport was close by 6 miles Some how we mange to land plane, it was real and scary , not feels like simulated engine fails , you gonna panic and then u get weird feeling of dying , however I am really happy and grateful to be alive and keep continue with my training

This week i have a check ride lol

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