If she got any semblance of sanity or self-esteem, then she’s doing it for money and will dump him once she’s bought enough jewelry and brand cosmetics
I honestly don't think Hasan get pussy. I mean sure I think alot of chicks swoon over him. But when I see him IRL interact with women it's screams, "I don't intimately talk to women at all"
The brothel's name was Artemis, in Berlin. It's been known for having trafficked women and one confirmed to being underage during the time. It's an entire rabbit hole - feel free to do your own research instead of asking me to Google for you.
I don't need to when the information is easily accessible via your favorite search engine lmao
The real reason you're asking ME for a source is to argue, and I really don't feel like getting dragged down to a Hasan viewer's level of stupidity. But it sounds like you're young, probably a teen, so just go keep growing that brain of yours.
i googled it. the brothel was raided on suspicion of sex trafficking and tax evasion six years after hasan went there. seven years later the city of Berlin paid the brothel 250k euro, issued an apology, and dropped all cases due to a lack of evidence. nowhere does it mention any underage workers. you're literally just lying
Here is probably what they are referring to:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/KwTFpCk8eV
Then, though the article does not specifically detail the involvement of the Artemis brothel in trafficking it's implied I think:
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/human-trafficking-persists-despite-legality-of-prostitution-in-germany-a-902533.html
And US .gov site specifically mentioning an Artemis related trafficker:
https://www.state.gov/reports/2018-trafficking-in-persons-report/germany/
An article detailing explotation rampant in the world of legal prostitution, mentioning that underage girls are increasingly common and calling out Artemis as problematic (though not specifically in this regard)
https://fondationscelles.org/pdf/RM5/GERMANY_Excerpt_5th_Global_Report_Fondation_SCELLES_2019.pdf
TL;DR
Though the brothel Hasan admitted to visiting may not commonly employ underage girls (though their grooming may possibly begin before the legal age), they are still likely guilty of exploiting their sex workers (how surprising!) and though u/Pr1zzm may be acting like a douche, they still have point in the dubious morality of all this. This took me like 10 mins to find so please don't act like the raid and reparations are all there is to the story.
You're the one making the claim. That means you're the one that should provide proof for that claim, otherwise you're committing a fallacy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
All I could find is that the police raided the place but could not prove any of the claims made to be true, they even paid damages for the inconvenience
According to german sources, none of the accusation (except tax evasion) could be made to stick, and the state even had to pay a fee for unreasonable persecution. Im not trying to protect shady brothel and their owners, but my own research directly contradicts yoir statement
Lame and lazy. When you make a claim like this it is on you to prove yourself. Otherwise, your words are empty and you're bullshitting just as much as the next guy.
He could absolutely have half of the streamers he collaborates with but it would take time away from yelling at chatters and avoiding playing Subnautica.
yes his ex pinksparkles was at the time i believe a bigger streamer, had a successful OF and she also inherited a lot of money so she was more successful and had more money and certainly didnt need him for clout
Asmon uses his common sense and popularity to gaslight him into thinking that his worse takes must be right. I don’t have him for it, and i can’t recall exact situations - but i find myself agreeing with the general messages he has, and disagreeing with most of whatever side notes he makes.
Saying that, and as someone left leaning who generally likes asmon, i can see why others could dislike both asmon and hasan.
As far as I know, asmon refers to "common sense" a lot more than Hasan so imo his opinions have less of a basis.
He's also said some very ignorant things about the Holocaust and professional sports just to mock the trans community and while I generally don't fuck with those who harass an infinitesimally small minority of people, the fact he lies about it so often to fuel his rhetoric makes it worse.
One talks up terrorists, the other one openly supports the president in favour of donating another gorillion of American taxpayers' money to a terrorist state while letting them commit obvious genocide undisturbed.
Uh brother in Christ, do you need to be in a relationship in order to get laid? Being notoriously single is kinda the point when sleeping around unless you’re a shitty person lmao
Hasan may be insufferable but otherwise he's athletic, well groomed, and seems mostly normal from other clips I've seen of him where he's not online or arguing. Asmon is literally none of those things.
If I HAD to choose I'd have to respect Hasan's opinions more than Asmon because Hasan actually leaves his house on a regular basis.
Still can't see how anybody actually watches either of them, though.
For real. At this point, it basically means someone who has an opinion and a social media following. I can't honestly believe that so many people on the left seem to genuinely think that everyone who has conservative viewpoints and over 100K followers is actually lying about their beliefs for material gain.
I agree the term is overused, but I also reckon that if we say 'grifting' is when you dishonestly promote viewpoints and positions you don't actually hold, or knowingly provide misinformation to gin up support, or exaggerate the extent of your own personal support for a topic for some sort of direct material gain (not just I'm a conservative --> lower taxes for me because I'm rich, I mean like my salary is coming from me saying we need to machine gun mexicans as they come over the border). I think it's pretty obvious that this is a rampant problem on the right and is a developing problem for democrats (crooked media affiliated stuff is in this category).
Basically if someone's a conservative personality you'd expect them to talk about policy a lot more than how gay target is being at the moment.
I think those are reasonable standards for what we could call grifting, but I think most conservative media personalities do believe in what they're talking about for the most part. And exaggerating or focusing on "fluff" topics like black lesbians in videogames, is more appealing to an audience than being dishonest. Either way, we can't actually tell what any person's true feelings in their mind are, so calling everything grifting mostly just devalues the word. It especially makes left-leaning people look delusional like they couldn't believe that anyone on Earth actually disagrees with them and all they need to do is convince the liars to stop lying.
I almost never hear anyone with a left-leaning viewpoint called a grifter, even when they're an actor or singer who benefits even more from mimicking the political views of their target demographics. As it exists, the term is just a way for left-leaning people to invalidate the viewpoints of right-leaning people without engaging with them.
Leftists are rarely called grifters because most right wing and centrist liberal media are funded by billionares while most far Leftists aren't because their views directly oppose large capital.
Idk much about asmon but hasan is absolutely a grifter he’s living rich in socal talking about socialism while he takes in his Bezobucks from twitch lmao
I think its to do with spouting stuff you dont necessarily believe just get attention/money.
If you were a long time Asmongold watcher (like i was) you can tell the current asmongold is just straight up a different person compared to who he used to be.
The old guy had common sense takes with some uneducated takes here and there but for the most part he was progressive.
Now he’s like a completely different person. When he once used to offer walking anyone he knows to an abortion clinic when psychos were outside protesting… he’s now asking to dress up as ash ketchum and ride along with ICE agents.
You can see this sorta tone shift with XQC lately too when he used to post some pro black lives matter stuff on twitter whereas now XQC doesn’t even recognise those tweets as his anymore.
Then you look at hasan and his tweets and you realize that guy hasn’t shut the fuck up about the same points for like 10 years. Guy gas been pro Palestine when it wasn’t cool.
I've been following Asmon since before he was streaming on twitch. I think he feels different because he now has a vessel that allows his more rightwing takes to go through. He has reiterated often, even recently, that he is very left leaning in his economic ideas: Free healthcare, the inevitability of UBI, etc. Dude was poor and remembers it.
He's just always hated DEI/Woke stuff and watching more rightwing content has made him even harsher in that regards. I know he does, but I feel like he doesn't even question the content he's watching that much. The stuff he watches on stream is so extremely biased towards the right, which also happens to be full of disinformation and lies. His subreddit has completed metamorphed the second he started watching trump content. Feels like a facebook boomer page that's braindead anti left.
I've been following forever and i've never heard him say that. Actually, I've seen him laugh at people calling him a grifter because of the implication that it means he doesn't believe in what he says.
That’s how social media buzzwords work. The normies find a trendy new word and oversaturate the shit out of it. Remember when “stay woke” was a cool thing to say?
Tbf Asmon is a lot more capable of looking at things from a moderate point of view. Hasan however promotes terrorist propaganda on a daily basis, which is ironic because he also promotes woman and lgbtq rights. Don’t think his terrorist buddies like that very much
I don’t think Hasan is grifting, on October 8 he stood up for the Palestinians and lost like half his viewers which I think he wouldn’t have done if it was just about the money or views
You gotta at least try to provide an example. Israel has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, if saying that they are an evil government is somehow a bad take I don’t want to have a good take.
I know, would you explain to me why exactly you feel they are the problem when Israel at this point cleansed 377.000 people from Gaza and these organizations have a right to resist under international law? Also do you not feel that terrorism is a bit randomly applied, the pflp for example is not a religious fundamentalist org and resist as international law allows them and yet they too are classified as terrorists
Don’t you know Hasan? There’s like a million bajillion things. Tons of them, there are so many things that are horrible. In fact, there is so much that I won’t even give you an example of one thing of the many tens of horrible things that I find horrible. There is just so many
Found the Hasan fan. Hey point out in my comment where I said he doesn’t believe in anything please. Believe it or not, people can believe things and also want attention.
Are you saying that on October 8 there were Israeli tanks driving through Gaza? Or do you think that I don't know that Israel occupied Gaza and left in 2006? Either way, you're wrong.
Hasan wasn't posting about those operations though. And if he was, that's a deliberate attempt to justify/whitewash October 7th by equating it to Israeli warfare.
Hamas fired rockets because they hold the genocidal belief that any Jew living in the land of Israel must be slaughtered. Hamas formed out of Palestinian resentment towards the occupation. They are a religious organization as contrasted with the secular PLO, making them particularly extremist and unyielding.
People are beginning to realise history didn't start on October 7th.
Although the genocide has gotten to the point where even if you did believe that October 7th was when history started it's still clear that Israel have committed far more atrocities by any metric imaginable.
No, Hasan often gets called out for his opinions by his own fans and he does not apologise, he stands by his opinions and beliefs. And also he showers...
Asmongold flipflops his opinion whenever he feels like it. Also he doesn't shower...
Asmongold, at least isn't as morally deplorable Hasan is.
The worst thing he said said is that he didn't care about the Israel palestine conflict for having a "inferior culture" which is still fucked ou because those are still people. Then later apologized for it.
Hasan said that the CCP was justified to conquer Tibet because they had slavery.
People call him a right winger but the dude is a center liberal. He's pro choice and pro LGBT etc, he just says shit in the most inflammatory way possible to get hate clicks from retards like Hasan.
Lol, he "apologized" for it because he literally said Palestinians essentially deserved to be "genocided"- literally used the word "genocide" in his rant.
On top of that he supports terrorist groups,suggest raping women it's ok if their parents are wealthy, and treats minority groups like shit for bruising his ego.
The clip you showed doesn't show what you just claimed. It shows a clip of one streamer watching another streamer claiming that watching a some clip where the music is (according to the post it looks like it was from) playing an old Yemen folklore song and showing random shots which look like footage from the 80s showing a bunch of what appears to be middle easterners dancing and marching. What's even funny is that I actually tried to find the context of the clip which they "link" in the description, but it takes me to a blank page.
At least in this clip, Hasan doesn't say anything like what you were saying (I know clips of middle easterners singing in their "scary" language MUST mean it's automatically a propaganda for a terrorist groups).
It's also funny because Asmongold literally justified a genocide, even using that exact word, by claiming that ALL people of that "inferior culture" deserved being killed- a blatant racist and bigoted thing to say. You think THAT is less "morally deplorable"? It seems to me that the only reason you say that is because you probably agree with that sentiment yourself.
Lol, he "apologized" for it because he literally said Palestinians essentially deserved to be "genocided"- literally used the word "genocide" in his rant.
Asmongold said that he didn't care because their culture was inferior, and even if true that's still dehumanizing.
You haven't addressed Hasan justifying the CCP taking over Tibet with the same logic, and he didn't apologize for that or any of his other abhorrent takes.
they "link" in the description, but it takes me to a blank page.
Has it occurred to you that the video got removed because it breaks youtube TOS for being terrorist propaganda?
And what about the other 2 clips I linked?
How about him saying it's ok to rape women if their parents are millionaires/billionaires? And how about the clip of him berating a trans person for criticizing him for losing a debate? He is a piece of shit.
Asmongold said that he didn't care because their culture was inferior, and even if true that's still dehumanizing.
Yeah, because the talk of "inferior culture" and "western values' hasn't been used in the past by past far-right groups. I did Nazi you literally defending this.
You haven't addressed Hasan justifying the CCP taking over Tibet with the same logic, and he didn't apologize for that or any of his other abhorrent takes.
You didn't link it, so I don't really care to address it unless I see the context or even just the basic video.
What's funny is that every video you link is a 1 minute or less of context-less video of Hasan in a middle of one of his rants and think that's some kind of proof of your claim. In fact, it's pretty indicative of your intellectual dishonesty think that linking a 39 sec video for his supporting "raping women" when he literally says in the last few seconds, "In a pen with one another is ultimately getting them away from the broader society. I'm not stating that it's a good thing that date rape is happening." Even the clip with it's lacking context, he denounces it. On the other hand, I can watch the full Asmongold video and say, yeah, this guy is a pretty racist supremacist, and anyone who watches the full context of that clip would come to that same conclusion unless they were racists themselves.
Yeah, because the talk of "inferior culture" and "western values' hasn't been used in the past by past far-right groups. I did Nazi you literally defending this.
You're assuming the worst implications possible trying to find a dog whistle where there's none while trying to defend and make excuses for Hasan suggesting for the rape women for having rich parents. Stop doing tricks on it bro.
I am not going to keep wasting my time arguing with the dick rider of a terrorist apologist.
I guess I should've clarified. I meant proof of the child trafficking with respect to the brothel. "brothel stuff" was all encompassing. The claim is that he went to a child sex trafficking brothel. Implying he is a pedophile.
When it comes to protesting, the vast majority of his protests streams were on sidewalks or in public areas. He did go on the street, with journalistic purposes just like CNN did.
Blocking roads has been used historically, so I see no issue with that. Hasan did not engage in any harassment or damage any property however police did shoot journalists and innocent civilians walking on sidewalks, some of which Hasan caught on camera. But yea, let's worry about some waymos and blocked roads.
Hasan is a compulsive liar, horrible misogynist, and war profiteer. He constantly platforms antisemitism and every one of his orbiters is spiraling out of control.
Asmon has bad hygiene and I don't like his takes on trump.
Insane take. Idc if you like hasan or not, he's been consistent over like a decade, and when he's changed his mind on something he explains why. And idk if it's grifting to constantly be on the ground supporting movements in person he supports on steam.
Asmon's a gamer and content creator first, and just does vibes politics and goes with what chat pushes him towards.
One has fair takes and allows all kinds of differing opinions in their chats and doesn’t slander people. The other bans dissenting opinions, openly defends multiple terrorist organisations, denies rape, slanders people constantly, attended diddy parties and brothels that trafficked children, used police to harass an ex girlfriend, and is called hasan. Every single one of these things he has explicitly admitted to on stream btw
anita sarkeesian was a grifter. The bitch came, made millions and just disappeared. Leaving a trail of destruction, that the gaming community is still recovering from.
One's a Houthi slut that fucked kids, supported terrorists numerous times, including having one on stream, frequently calls people Nazis, pedos and whatever else he can think of, despite the fact he most likely doesn't even know who any of those are and has a circle of orbiters, who are genuinely insane and should be sued the same way 3 of them just did.
And the other is a guy that lives in filth due to personal attachments with the most normal guy takes, that, even though one could argue the take was right, apologized for his radical take and took responsibility and actually improved himself slightly. Also, he doesn't have that dumbass circle, and also, Hasan simps his ass 24/7.
I don't understand how anyone can take Asmon seriously. Even if you agree with his views, he's unwashed and fucking gross. He looks like an unpopped pimple. He's got a constant greasy film on him.
That a guy you are proud to say "Yeah he gets it, he's speaking for me"?
Like no matter my opinions if the ones I agrees with came out of a dude who looks like that and lives like that I'd change my opinions.
Yeah the DNC really screwed the pooch on that one. The republican is an anti-establishmentarian and they decide to push the most establishment person ever. Bernie could've been the outsider to appeal to a lot of the voters.
Exactly, they deliberately fucked over Bernie because President Shillary Clitoris would've been amazing feminist brownie points.
What was REALLY the controlled opposition was thinking she'd be a shoe-in against Dementia Donny, the media propping him up, and her campaigning on "get a load of this guy, he sucks"
Establishment democrats prefer Trump over Bernie or Mamdani and that’s a fact. Not many will say that shit out loud, but all you have to do is look at their actions.
Bloomberg and other NYC billionaires are saying they’ll fund a massive write in campaign against Mamdani. You know, instead of actually helping people. Just search Mamdani and Bloomberg and you’ll find countless articles from Bloomberg.com warning how the evil socialist is going to provoke the republicans into going even harder on their Make America Worse agenda, instead of appeasing them to slow down.
His 2016 campaign was absolutely against the established order. Both Republicans and Democrats disliked him before he became the Republican candidate, when the Republicans faked liking him to get cushy jobs.
The people that voted for him still see him as anti establishment though. It's weird but they do.
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They don't realize that when Trump said that he was going to "drain the swamp", that what he really meant was he was going to move his own swamp over the old swamp
It's not about how the country is doing, it's about how people are feeling about their OWN personal economic situation. The facts are the facts. Even though the overall American economy // stocks // etc was technically up, the people generally did not feel that way at all. This sentiment is echo'd globally as many of the world's citizens are dealing with things like high interest rates, high housing costs, high grocery prices, inflation, etc.
Just goes to show that when you tell corpos to fuck off and focus ok the people on the ground, peope tend to like that.
It's how trump won twice. He validated their feelings and pain. He redirected it somewhere bigoted and filled peoples' heads with lies, but when the opposition is telling you that what you are experiencing isn't real, "wE aCtUaLlY wEaThErEd InFlAtIoN PrEtTy WeLl," people tend to believe the guy at least trying to explain away the why eggs are getting more expensive.
Mamdani is doing that, but with an empathetic and left-wing approach to solving problems. Socialized grocery stores to drive costs down and reduce travel time for underserved parts of NYC, free bus fares to extend commute range for working class people who are struggling to find a job in their area, and a mental health and public safety approach to law enforcement, working with the police to ensure cops are able to focus on their jobs and not handle smaller things like a homeless person being disruptive or something, while also helping those homeless people get a clean slate and fresh start. If people can put food on the table and have a roof over their head, there is much less reason for people to commit crimes
He is identifying where people are struggling and offering direct solutions to those problems, rather than the democrat "private-public partnerships" harris kept suggesting that have basically never panned out for people.
One thing I really like about Mamdani, AOC, and Bernie Sanders is that they don’t really care about partisan politics. AOC famously collaborated with Gaetz to introduce a bill that would ban insider trading in congress (which got struck down by both parties) and offered to work with Massie as well.
All three of them reached out to Trump voters and asked them why they voted for Trump and why they switched their vote from blue to red.
I recommend you listen to the answers they get. It’s pretty insightful. Especially the people who voted mix ticket — Trump at the top and AOC or Bernie as their representative. Plenty of Trump voters ranked Mamdani too, especially in the immigrant community.
One time I saw unironically hella conservatives in Asmon’s chat show mild approval or even admiration towards Bernie Sanders when he reacted to a video of him calling out the Democratic Party.
Economic incentive is the best motivator. I bet even the most staunch anti-DEI supporter would agree to install affirmative action if you give him or her free healthcare in exchange. Heck Trump’s whole schtick is fearmongering about finances, blaming DEI and illegals for the fact that you can’t afford a home in the era of abundance.
Basically running someone like Bernie loses you the "centrist" vote, at least if the other guy is more centrist. What we're seeing though is that centrists have lost their appeal and the centrist voting bloc is not as important as it used to be.
Which is why it's stupid the left doesn't realise they can use populism as well.
It's what the Korean left do. Populism goes both ways but the dnc incorrectly assumes centrism will give them the most votes. America is too radicalized for red states to vote dem anyways, if they just went full 'eat the rich' they'd get more votes.
That’s because we don’t have a progressive party, we have Conservatives and we have Blue Gay Conservatives.
Although actually the Red Conservative Party is also pretty gay, those dudes will pass anti gay legislation and then go across the street to get turned inside out by some twink.
Honestly I can’t wait for both of them to fuck off permanently from internet and everyone forgetting about them.
I’ve genuinely never watched a damn second of any of them and I still know about them. I’m being force fed their bullshit and I hate them both for it.
asmongolds opinions arent even coherent enough to attack. He isnt smart enough to form such opinions. He sees something, feels something, says something based on that feeling, however irrational, racist or hypocritical. At least hasan has proper opinions that he can defend with arguments and has been relatively consistent over the years
there was nothing of substance argued with ethan and he bassicly conceded to any actual political arguments. The rest was personal slop i do not really care for. You arent being fair at all, if you actually watch any of these people the likes of ethan or asmon or xqc make no effort to convince a single soul they just say shit. The debatelords like hasan and destiny (before the sex pest grift) at least made arguments
its unreal that you guys believe this, he got Hasan to literally say he doesn't believe rape victims unless there is video evidence because "circumstantial evidence isn't enough"
Hasan has said he would not be surprised if rape occurred on oct. 7, but he believes it was not systemically planned and utilized by the group. He also does not believe it happening would change the dynamic.
Hamas came into power because Israel helped them do so, because they wanted extremists in power so they could have an excuse to continue their illegal occupation of Palestinian territories
thats all you got as a gotcha from that whole conversation? him saying he needs more than circumstantial evidence to believe the largest propaganda machine of the 21st century which was preaching the racist myth and selfadmission of burned babies at the time? At the worst case scenario its just a misunderstanding of what circumstantial evidence is (ie not considering dna and forensic evidence as circumstantial). On the other hand ethan called his wife a terrorist and immediatly caved to any arguments actually about the I/P conflict bc ethan is obviously a mentally ill crackhead with no actual political arguments, as was the whole "act" of their podcast together. The debate lords at least have opinions, despite again, often being wrong. The likes of xqc, ethan, asmon, adin ross etc do not they are genuinely uneducated and uninformed drama tubers
no, the burnt babies thing came from a mistranslated french report which was said only one time by an Israeli official literally the day following the massacre when nobody really knew what happened. great misdirection though.
it's not a gotcha, it just proves that Hasan is still the same misogynistic frat bro as he used to be
thats just untrue. The burning babies thing was literally a common idf claim, endorsed by both bide and netenyahu, and multiple idf spokepeople. How it originated is unclear but whats a fact is that all these people repeated these claims and amplified them MONTHS after oct7 despite KNOWING for a fact it wasnt true.
How does not immediatly believing israeli narratives "mysoginy" let alone indicative of him still being a "frat bro"? Do also keep in mind that his argument was never that sexual assault in oct7 didnt happen, just that its really dpesnt matter and its scale is meerely exagrated for propaganda purposes to draw attention from the actual attrocities.
sees something, feels something, says something based on that feeling, however irrational, racist or hypocritical.
so basically just hassan? for hassan who has asmon living on his hend rent free, i need serious answer here how do you even defend his habit of making shit up whenever he defames asmon or tectone?
what shit up? What lie has he said about either lmao? that tectone and his father are rapists? thats not a lie. That asmon lives like a roach and this habbit of his likely contributed to his mothers death? If you want to see someone making it up as they go just watch asmons reaction to hasan protesting ICE
If he ever had original ideas and opinions, that time is long gone. He only adopts whatever fresh opinion he finds, and then as soon as it's not one his fans want to hear, he pivots to the opposite opinion.
His ideas are just as stupid, all of his points revolve around fearmongering them against us to try and appeal to some idea. Or they come out uninformed as all hell, he still doesn't know what a sanctuary city actually is and what it entails
Na he said he didn't give a shit what happens in Gaza due to their attitude towards Jews. That's enough to get him banned. Shit like that is an average day on Hassan's stream.
Asmongold literally got banned for defending genocide
Yeah because Twitch is known for their totally justified and rational bans lmao. I swear only exposure people have of Asmon is through rage bait out of context clips or the latest r/LivestreamFail post. Hell, i don't even like the guy that much but this is bullshit.
You literally just have to stop bombing Palestine and Yemen and the terrorists in question will go away.
No they won't, Hamas won't stop until Isreal is eradicated. That's kind of their whole thing. Though not bombing children could certainly help make them lose power among the general population. ALSO, don't support terrorists.
Yeah because Twitch is known for their totally justified and rational bans lmao
The American police are unreliable, therefore when they arrest a guy for something he did on live TV he probably didn't actually do it
No they won't, Hamas won't stop until Isreal is eradicated
Ok who gaf, Hamas emerged due to Israel.
ALSO, don't support terrorists.
I prioritize not supporting genocide over falling for the same shit the United States of Israel has been making up about anyone they want to bomb for decades
The American police are unreliable, therefore when they arrest a guy for something he did on live TV he probably didn't actually do it
Yeah that's the nice thing with the police and twitch shenanigans, you always have a footage of what's happening. If you watched it you would know he didn't support a damn genocide. He is mostly apathetic.
I prioritize not supporting genocide over falling for the same shit the United States of Israel has been making up about anyone they want to bomb for decades
Like i said, don't support terrorists. You can criticise both, i know you can do it my friend.
What do you call support for a government's violent international actions while being apathetic to the consequences, because that sure as shit ain't neutrality
And nothing stopping you from criticizing both sides while recognizing that the ideal outcome for humanity is Israel and its sponsors losing
What do you call support for a government's violent international actions while being apathetic to the consequences, because that sure as shit ain't neutrality
Yeah ok buddy, footage is there for all to see. Think whatever you want.
And nothing stopping you from criticizing both sides while recognizing that the ideal outcome for humanity is Israel and its sponsors losing
Sure, why not. You can think it that way. I don't like Isreal either, they are a colonialist state created from the expulsion of the native population based on some fairytales 2000 years ago. Though i'm not sure i would call Isreal losing the ideal outcome, depends on your definiton of losing. Let's make one thing absolutely certain, these groups will not stop until Isreal is destroyed. They want revenge, they want "justice", they want their forefathers lands back. And Isreal being destroyed means hundreds and thousand of jewish residents will be killed, if not most of them, and more will be expelled. If you want Isreal just stopping its campaign and give complete autonomy to Palestine, sure. They would live happily ever after.
Also I know I’m being snarky but legit I don’t care about either guy. I just hate the dude who keeps saying he’s left and communist while also being one of the richest streamers (who also advocates for genocide and supports authoritarian theocracies) more than the guy who’s cringe and needs to bathe more cuz he’s a slob.
He openly calls for the government to tax him along with the other 1% and still ends up donating to causes that he has been supporting for over a decade now.
It had to be leaked that he donates to the Amazon Labor Union and is one of their largest individual donors
Going on a tangent about how communist (he's proclaimed socialist) means you can't be rich just exposes more about your own lack of knowledge
I mean you're whole comment just shows that you don't even understand what you're criticizing. We live in a capitalist society, how is he supposed to be socialist ? Houses, utilities, food etc all still cost money so he needs to have money and spend it. You can't just "do" a socialism when you wake up. Socialism is about systems not individuals, so when someone says they are socialist and your response is "bUt YOu hAve MoNEy" you make yourself look so uneducated.
While he is "rich", he is not the same rich that he criticizes, who are the billionaires or the top 1%. Yes he lives better than me or you will ever in our lives but his money cannot really leverage much other than for personal/familial security or low scale charities. I really hate that as a jab on him (despite not being a Hassan fan) because its utterly pointless to mention.
He has literal generational wealth and hates capitalism but benefits from it and also steals people’s content for a living. He’s a capitalist’s wet dream. Making money by doing nothing and starting off wealthy by being born wealthy.
Well, at best Israel attacked public spaces and gave the Palestinians a heads-up about it. IDK too much about the Geneva Convention / Suggestion, but I doubt this would justify civilian casualties.
My bad I forgot the Houthis attacking neutral vessels and kidnapping their crews and never releasing them was a good thing. I also forgot that the internet thinks that China systematically getting rid of the Uyghurs is a good thing for some reason.
I think Hasan has even streamed from his bathtub. If Assmon did that I genuinely think the crust holding him together would dissolve and he would just disintegrate.
Man idk who the fuck either of these people are. These zoomer internet celebrities get mentioned all the time on reddit and I've never heard of a single one of them
Fine, I’m biased, but if you watch either of these people and think that Hasan is just pandering compared to asmongold. It’s literally night and day. If you don’t see that then you’re blinded by not liking the person rather than recognizing reality.
Only right-wingers are going around claiming Asmongold is "centrist" with the only justification of "just trust me bro". Is it also hilarious that just recently Asmongold supported Trump's goal of ending Birthright citizenship- literally the law since 1868- but of course that is your "centrist" take. Is this really your pathetic attempt at gaslighting?
It's a well known fact that birthright citizenship has been abused for decades
There's a line where the whole country just goes "enough" and this is it. It's a centrist view
The far-right view would be declining naturalization and legal immigrants
The way you and the dems are saying that centrist views are far right radicalize more people than trump himself
It's a centrist view to follow the law and not abuse the system. Most of "legal" immigrants agree to this. That's why they're in the US in the first place
I would say that you should do some more research on what this means
It doesn't mean that every US children is not american anymore
It just meant that illegal immigrants that have babies on the US would not be a US citizen.
It also meant that those children are never gonna be separated from their parents (because either they naturalize themself to become US citizens or be deported together as a family)
"Ohh what about those illegal immigrants that have an US wife/husband?"
Well.. they should follow the procedures like other immigrants
If they didn't commit a crime, they wouldn't be deported in the first place
There's a line where the whole country just goes "enough" and this is it. It's a centrist view
No, it isn't. This is "centrist" view only has become serious in the public discourse before Trump's 2nd term.
Released just ahead of the Supreme Court's ruling, an Emerson College Polling survey of 1,000 registered U.S. voters conducted between June 24 and 25, found that a majority support birthright citizenship, 68 percent. Meanwhile, 32 percent of voters believe it should be ended for people who are not born to U.S. citizen parents.
"Support for birthright citizenship policy is highest among voters under 30, at 83%, and lowers steadily as voters' age increases, to 55% of voters over 70," Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling, said.
The poll's findings also fall along partisan lines, with 90 percent of Democrats supporting birthright citizenship for everyone, with 49 percent of Republicans believing it should continue. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
A Reuters/Ipsos poll of 1,136 Americans conducted between June 11 and 12 found a smaller percentage of people support ending birthright citizenship, 24 percent, while 52 percent opposed ending it.
It's hilarious that MAGA cult members think most of America is like them in their extremist view, especially when ALL you needed to do for "research" was literally a quick google search. It's obvious you are a right-winger who thinks your stance is a centrist viewpoint, which is why you can unironically call Asmongold a "centrist".
It's really laughable the fact that you think a college poll of 1000 people represents america as a whole 🤣
If 68% of america rejects the idea as a whole there would be mass riot greater than the floyd riot
The fact that there isn't one just proves the point.
Either people that oppose it don't actually care about the problem or that they're secretly agreeing with it but afraid of the social reprecussion from agreeing with it. Choose one, both can't be true at the same time
1.2 million children born in 2022 to undocumented parents. We could stop this exploitation of childten if they ended birthright citizenship
It's really laughable the fact that you think a college poll of 1000 people represents america as a whole 🤣
Are you really this much of moron? No seriously, did you actually try thinking you were making fun of me by calling Emerson College Polls, used by both right-wing and left-wing news organizations and think-tanks, as a small "college" poll. Actually, do you even know what a poll is, or even know what data science and statistics are? It's even funnier since I listed Reuters/Ipsos, ANOTHER major polling organization. But like all right-wing MAGA cult members, everything other than what your dear leader says is correct and normal.
To be honest, I actually started laughing at you after reading your last post. You just proved how absolutely ignorant you are, and like all MAGA "thinkers", you are actually too "low IQ" to even understand that basic fact. You are the walking definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. 🤣🤣🤣
They are both terrible to spend real life minutes to watch.
Hasan has nearly zero accountability and has is insanely privileged on twitch, people who do the same as him or even have the same political views sometimes get banned and he gets nearly nothing.
Asmongold’s lifestyle doesn’t match how he talks, and he has very little if any discipline. He tends to talk like a frustrated teenager about topics and say outlandish things. Though while writing this I realize a lot of things apply to both.
Having watched both in the past for a period of time I can say that not watching either is the best decision any one can possibly make. “Political streamer” has got to be the worst type of entertainment to consume in the current day.
Hasan is a triple distilled, hyper refined grifter who takes money from the poor (who give it willingly) and gives it to the rich (himself), which is based.
Asmongold is Nurgle's favorite and needs to be pressure washed, which is neither cringe nor based; it's just disgusting.
Yeah that’s the case with a lot of streamers and content creators, when they stay in their lane they’re cool and fine, when they break into shit they clearly know nothing about what the fuck are they even doing. Asmon should have stuck with MMOs and actually playing games, Mutahar should have stuck with tech and cybersecurity, and while I would have said Pirate Software should stick to game dev and cybersecurity stuff like a week ago recent events are revealing he’s just an overall moron.
Seems 90% of his content is just watching other people's content with barely any reaction or commentary. Hes not even in his chair like a third of the time.
One actually has beliefs and goes to protest and does charities and tries to do good(he does usually still suck tho and does frat rich boy shit)
The other is nasty gremlin man thats just shitty and stupid.
So if you pay attention and dont just do the "my le epic opinion is that politics where people are happy is bad because Im smart" its obvious which is good
Whether you like Hasan's opinions or not, the dude has had a political platform since day one. Comparing him to Asmongold is dishonest. Asmongold at some point realised he gets more viewers by being a grifter and kept on going.
Their’s no such thing as pandering if you think about actual deeper left wing and not just surface neoliberalism like right wingers think leftism is. Left Wingers fight on so many topics and issues.
federykx@reddit
Potato patato, only difference is one gets an inordinate amount of pussy and the other one doesn't
izza123@reddit
Asmond might have a chance with women if he showered and cleaned his room and also changed his face and personality
the_capibarin@reddit
He's tich though, I'm sure he could get a lot of pussy regardless
reason_to_anxiety@reddit
But would you really wanna fuck the guy who smells like corpses, mold and who bleeds from his gums daily,
King_Sombrero@reddit
Being able to catch fish is more impressive than being able to buy fish.
BrisingrAurelius@reddit
Tummy full
Yumyum
Azzcrakbandit@reddit
Tummy full because of men. Pretty gay.
Abdul-Wahab6@reddit
Tummy full regardless, yumyum
dirschau@reddit
It is more comfortable to cry in a Rolls Royce than on a bicycle.
-Confucius
eberlix@reddit
If it's on the internet, it must be true
Level37Doggo@reddit
I would pay good money to watch an Albert Einstein themed wrestler.
dirtymike401@reddit
I'd pay more for a Stephen Hawking knockoff.
-DubiousCreature-@reddit
Who cares whether other people are impressed? A fish is a fish.
WernerWindig@reddit
You care. Deep down you care.
Sherwoodfan@reddit
this guy buys fish
-DubiousCreature-@reddit
Speaking of when is your mother available? I know she's got a busy schedule.
ThatHeathGuy@reddit
He didn't say that
SpaceBug176@reddit
Prove it.
PomaranczowyXD@reddit
你好,我是孙子,我确认我确实说过👍
BoosherCacow@reddit
Holy shit guys it's him. You can tell it is by the way he is. Neat.
dillinger3k@reddit
u/thatheathguy , I mean he’s got Sun Tsu right next to him. Pretty sure you can’t argue against that 🤷♂️
yumstheman@reddit
“Clean your room and you’ll get the puss.” - Ghandi
eberlix@reddit
Also my mom after I asked her to get us a pet cat
Emblemized@reddit
If he left his house maybe
loscapos5@reddit
He dated an asian streamer who had enough money to buy herself a sports mercedes car, not knowing how to drive.
KazakiriKaoru@reddit
Dude is a filthy person in general, personality, takes and hygiene-wise
MrInfinity-42@reddit
Unironically I think he looks fine. Guy lives in a literal garbage dumb and has better skin than me (yes I'm seething)
The_Gunboat_Diplomat@reddit
It does show in his hair at least
Kiwi_Doodle@reddit
And his bloody gums
Dominationartz@reddit
He can’t accept that he’s going bald and refuses to kit his hair because of it
Invoqwer@reddit
=
Some people are just built diff honestly
https://i.imgur.com/5Ntg5sa.png
Obeesus@reddit
He drinks more water than he used to since his health scare.
Timekeeper98@reddit
Did something happen besides falling through his ceiling to scare him?
Obeesus@reddit
Yeah, before that. I want to say it was something to do with his heart, but I don't recall if he specified.
eberlix@reddit
What about his cheap steak and potatoe diet, does he keep that up?
GalaXion24@reddit
Yeah he literally just needs to take a shower, immediately, and he'll be fine
Jack-of-Hearts-7@reddit
Only way he can get pussy is if he buys it at a pet store
TheDuderinoAbides@reddit
Do not the cat
Sengfroid@reddit
Oh Yoda, your wisdom knows no end
Mesarthim1349@reddit
He's had one surprisingly
Novareason@reddit
She's kinda cute.
What's wrong with her?
AkOnReddit47@reddit
If she got any semblance of sanity or self-esteem, then she’s doing it for money and will dump him once she’s bought enough jewelry and brand cosmetics
Timekeeper98@reddit
Maybe she was like Zoidberg’s girlfriend in the ending of Futurama who couldn’t smell anything.
inspectoroverthemine@reddit
I've been checking dumpsters for 15 years, still haven't found one like her.
Ekillaa22@reddit
Nothing was wrong with her. Unless you count being a booby streamer as a problem?
TheDivinaldes@reddit
No sane human being would date someone like asmongold. Definetly something wrong mentally going on.
SUDDENLY_VIRGIN@reddit
Yeah
Ekillaa22@reddit
Why
lampstaple@reddit
Malfunctioning olfactory nerves it would appear
Tom_Gibson@reddit
this looks like it was years ago tho. I assume he devolved during COVID
WoolooOfWallStreet@reddit
Whenever the rat alarm clock was, that was when he devolved
SerioeseSeekuh@reddit
i dont think his personality is a problem as someone with such a reach online will always get pussy if he wasnt so damn messy
fkenthrowaway@reddit
guy literally had a cockroach crawl on him on stream.
schquid@reddit
Also, dont use a dead rat as an alarm clock
Foxhound220@reddit
Didn't asmon dated a bunch of onlyfans girls?
I'm sure he would got a lot of pussy if he's not a shut in living in his own filth.
TheFalconKid@reddit
Then he would be playing right into Hasan's famous quote "anyone can be a 7."
Metrix145@reddit
There is always someone desperate enough.
Sir_Ridyl@reddit
I honestly don't think Hasan get pussy. I mean sure I think alot of chicks swoon over him. But when I see him IRL interact with women it's screams, "I don't intimately talk to women at all"
federykx@reddit
You'd have to be unbelievably regarded to have his looks, wealth and fame and not get laid
Xalethesniper@reddit
Never seen a hasan stream then I assume
federykx@reddit
I have never seen either of them stream and wish to keep it that way
Level37Doggo@reddit
This man used a dead rat as an alarm clock. He might just be at that level.
Ekillaa22@reddit
He does just gotta use brothels lmao
Pr1zzm@reddit
Especially underage German ones
iNANEaRTIFACToh@reddit
source on the brothel having underage girls?
Pr1zzm@reddit
The brothel's name was Artemis, in Berlin. It's been known for having trafficked women and one confirmed to being underage during the time. It's an entire rabbit hole - feel free to do your own research instead of asking me to Google for you.
iNANEaRTIFACToh@reddit
im asking for a source my guy not ur recollection of what happened
Pr1zzm@reddit
And I'm telling you to research and form your own opinion. But if you're a Hasan viewer then I'd understand you finding that concept impossible.
iNANEaRTIFACToh@reddit
youre making the claim someone's complicit in child sex trafficking u could at least back it up right
Pr1zzm@reddit
I don't need to when the information is easily accessible via your favorite search engine lmao
The real reason you're asking ME for a source is to argue, and I really don't feel like getting dragged down to a Hasan viewer's level of stupidity. But it sounds like you're young, probably a teen, so just go keep growing that brain of yours.
iNANEaRTIFACToh@reddit
i googled it. the brothel was raided on suspicion of sex trafficking and tax evasion six years after hasan went there. seven years later the city of Berlin paid the brothel 250k euro, issued an apology, and dropped all cases due to a lack of evidence. nowhere does it mention any underage workers. you're literally just lying
Milllkshake59@reddit
People spreading misinformation about hasan? Many such cases
madmanwitharedditacc@reddit
Here is probably what they are referring to: https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/KwTFpCk8eV
Then, though the article does not specifically detail the involvement of the Artemis brothel in trafficking it's implied I think: https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/human-trafficking-persists-despite-legality-of-prostitution-in-germany-a-902533.html
And US .gov site specifically mentioning an Artemis related trafficker: https://www.state.gov/reports/2018-trafficking-in-persons-report/germany/
An article detailing explotation rampant in the world of legal prostitution, mentioning that underage girls are increasingly common and calling out Artemis as problematic (though not specifically in this regard) https://fondationscelles.org/pdf/RM5/GERMANY_Excerpt_5th_Global_Report_Fondation_SCELLES_2019.pdf
TL;DR Though the brothel Hasan admitted to visiting may not commonly employ underage girls (though their grooming may possibly begin before the legal age), they are still likely guilty of exploiting their sex workers (how surprising!) and though u/Pr1zzm may be acting like a douche, they still have point in the dubious morality of all this. This took me like 10 mins to find so please don't act like the raid and reparations are all there is to the story.
Pr1zzm@reddit
Thank you. A correct douche is what I usually am, I'll own it.
madmanwitharedditacc@reddit
Fair enough
spaceguydudeman@reddit
You're the one making the claim. That means you're the one that should provide proof for that claim, otherwise you're committing a fallacy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance
I could say
eberlix@reddit
All I could find is that the police raided the place but could not prove any of the claims made to be true, they even paid damages for the inconvenience
reallygreat2@reddit
Sounds fun.
EarlyDead@reddit
According to german sources, none of the accusation (except tax evasion) could be made to stick, and the state even had to pay a fee for unreasonable persecution. Im not trying to protect shady brothel and their owners, but my own research directly contradicts yoir statement
liluzibrap@reddit
Lame and lazy. When you make a claim like this it is on you to prove yourself. Otherwise, your words are empty and you're bullshitting just as much as the next guy.
TheFalconKid@reddit
He could absolutely have half of the streamers he collaborates with but it would take time away from yelling at chatters and avoiding playing Subnautica.
ChadWestPaints@reddit
Are those streamers, like his audience, mostly just teenage boys? Because otherwise, x
MethodWhich@reddit
Surprisingly the woman asmond has been with have been hot as fuck
stupernan1@reddit
And 100% of them were into him just because of his personality.
Never because of money and clout
EvER
NotASlapper@reddit
Pushing the goalpost
JMStheKing@reddit
didn't he date people who were on par or even richer than he was?
SolidusAbe@reddit
yes his ex pinksparkles was at the time i believe a bigger streamer, had a successful OF and she also inherited a lot of money so she was more successful and had more money and certainly didnt need him for clout
MethodWhich@reddit
Yes
stupernan1@reddit
Theyll be into you as well :) just emulate aamon as much as you can buddy, i believe in you
MethodWhich@reddit
ok i will quit my job, stop showering, and never clean my room
Lucariowolf2196@reddit
Nah, Hasan gets cucked.
TheOneTheUno@reddit
I don't like Asmond but one of these dudes actively talks up terrorists, I'd say that one's a little worse
peanutbbunny@reddit
i’m pretty out of the loop, can you give more details about the terrorist support
stupernan1@reddit
Whats the opposite of a jew? Out of curiosity? Like what does that mean?
VladutzTheGreat@reddit
A wej?
Notwafle@reddit
Nathan_hale53@reddit
I kind of agree and im largely left wing. Can't stand Piker in the slightest and hes a huge pos. But Asmond also majorly sucks.
eliisback@reddit
why?
gedai@reddit
Asmon uses his common sense and popularity to gaslight him into thinking that his worse takes must be right. I don’t have him for it, and i can’t recall exact situations - but i find myself agreeing with the general messages he has, and disagreeing with most of whatever side notes he makes.
Saying that, and as someone left leaning who generally likes asmon, i can see why others could dislike both asmon and hasan.
MyBeansArentWorking@reddit
As far as I know, asmon refers to "common sense" a lot more than Hasan so imo his opinions have less of a basis.
He's also said some very ignorant things about the Holocaust and professional sports just to mock the trans community and while I generally don't fuck with those who harass an infinitesimally small minority of people, the fact he lies about it so often to fuel his rhetoric makes it worse.
Mr-Stuff-Doer@reddit
Correct, and it’s Asmon
federykx@reddit
One talks up terrorists, the other one openly supports the president in favour of donating another gorillion of American taxpayers' money to a terrorist state while letting them commit obvious genocide undisturbed.
Like I said, potato patato.
Anrativa@reddit
Um, no. Asmon straight up says repeatedly that he does not support helping Israel.
Teknicsrx7@reddit
Asmon doesn’t support sending Israel money tho
StraightOuttaArroyo@reddit
Beggars cant be choosers
TheFalconKid@reddit
You're not talking about Hasan right? He is notoriously single and talks about it all the time. His only chance is if Ludwig drops dead.
Kavirell@reddit
He has been dating Valkyrae for the past like 3 or 4 years. Its pretty well known for a while now.
federykx@reddit
It's in his interest to say he's single to maintain his female audience, just like good looking female streamers
xela364@reddit
Uh brother in Christ, do you need to be in a relationship in order to get laid? Being notoriously single is kinda the point when sleeping around unless you’re a shitty person lmao
EqualityAmongFish@reddit
isnt hasan gay?
Kavirell@reddit
No, he is dating the streamer Valkyrae
windowpuncher@reddit
Hasan may be insufferable but otherwise he's athletic, well groomed, and seems mostly normal from other clips I've seen of him where he's not online or arguing. Asmon is literally none of those things.
If I HAD to choose I'd have to respect Hasan's opinions more than Asmon because Hasan actually leaves his house on a regular basis.
Still can't see how anybody actually watches either of them, though.
Cabbagefarmer55@reddit
Yeah well, getting pussy is based. Idk why anyone would take opinions from someone who doesnt tbh
Sexuallemon@reddit
Asmon can get it, provided it just costs a lot of money and there’s no ambient light in the IHOP parking lot
Botboi02@reddit
It’s not really potato potato. Asmond has never even shown terrorist related content. Everything looks dark when you’re blind
Lukkuriddarii@reddit
One supports and promotes terrorism and the other doesn’t
NorthKoreanKnuckles@reddit
liberal pussy smells
sadorphannoparents@reddit
has to be an incel mentality. dude saw two famous guys and immediately thought about them having sex
Huge_Kaleidoscope162@reddit
It’s tomato tomato who the fuck calls a potato a potato you fool
Count_Dongula@reddit
The other one doesn't because he sleeps in a pile of his own filth.
ParticularConcept548@reddit
He was promised 25 virgins
Kornik-kun@reddit
Hello twin brother
CrazyElk123@reddit
In other words, looks and hygiene is the difference.
SuperFunTime777@reddit
They are both managed by the same company (night), no joke and that company is owned by Disney.
cavendishandharvey@reddit
big if true
SuperFunTime777@reddit
https://www.night.co/talent/asmongold
https://www.night.co/talent/hasan-piker
cavendishandharvey@reddit
Unreal. Just more manufactured outrage.
Drayenn@reddit
Im so tired of people not knowing what grifter means. If it continues like this, the definition is going to change to its new meaning.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
For real. At this point, it basically means someone who has an opinion and a social media following. I can't honestly believe that so many people on the left seem to genuinely think that everyone who has conservative viewpoints and over 100K followers is actually lying about their beliefs for material gain.
Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit
I agree the term is overused, but I also reckon that if we say 'grifting' is when you dishonestly promote viewpoints and positions you don't actually hold, or knowingly provide misinformation to gin up support, or exaggerate the extent of your own personal support for a topic for some sort of direct material gain (not just I'm a conservative --> lower taxes for me because I'm rich, I mean like my salary is coming from me saying we need to machine gun mexicans as they come over the border). I think it's pretty obvious that this is a rampant problem on the right and is a developing problem for democrats (crooked media affiliated stuff is in this category).
Basically if someone's a conservative personality you'd expect them to talk about policy a lot more than how gay target is being at the moment.
LukeJaywalker0@reddit
I think those are reasonable standards for what we could call grifting, but I think most conservative media personalities do believe in what they're talking about for the most part. And exaggerating or focusing on "fluff" topics like black lesbians in videogames, is more appealing to an audience than being dishonest. Either way, we can't actually tell what any person's true feelings in their mind are, so calling everything grifting mostly just devalues the word. It especially makes left-leaning people look delusional like they couldn't believe that anyone on Earth actually disagrees with them and all they need to do is convince the liars to stop lying.
I almost never hear anyone with a left-leaning viewpoint called a grifter, even when they're an actor or singer who benefits even more from mimicking the political views of their target demographics. As it exists, the term is just a way for left-leaning people to invalidate the viewpoints of right-leaning people without engaging with them.
Simsonis@reddit
Leftists are rarely called grifters because most right wing and centrist liberal media are funded by billionares while most far Leftists aren't because their views directly oppose large capital.
uknowthe1ph@reddit
Idk much about asmon but hasan is absolutely a grifter he’s living rich in socal talking about socialism while he takes in his Bezobucks from twitch lmao
dukeofsponge@reddit
Not to mention it'd be way more common if that were the case.
bitt3n@reddit
yo man stop being such a grifter
Oompa-Loompa-Reddit@reddit
What does it mean?
ParsivaI@reddit
I think its to do with spouting stuff you dont necessarily believe just get attention/money.
If you were a long time Asmongold watcher (like i was) you can tell the current asmongold is just straight up a different person compared to who he used to be.
The old guy had common sense takes with some uneducated takes here and there but for the most part he was progressive.
Now he’s like a completely different person. When he once used to offer walking anyone he knows to an abortion clinic when psychos were outside protesting… he’s now asking to dress up as ash ketchum and ride along with ICE agents.
You can see this sorta tone shift with XQC lately too when he used to post some pro black lives matter stuff on twitter whereas now XQC doesn’t even recognise those tweets as his anymore.
Then you look at hasan and his tweets and you realize that guy hasn’t shut the fuck up about the same points for like 10 years. Guy gas been pro Palestine when it wasn’t cool.
Drayenn@reddit
I've been following Asmon since before he was streaming on twitch. I think he feels different because he now has a vessel that allows his more rightwing takes to go through. He has reiterated often, even recently, that he is very left leaning in his economic ideas: Free healthcare, the inevitability of UBI, etc. Dude was poor and remembers it.
He's just always hated DEI/Woke stuff and watching more rightwing content has made him even harsher in that regards. I know he does, but I feel like he doesn't even question the content he's watching that much. The stuff he watches on stream is so extremely biased towards the right, which also happens to be full of disinformation and lies. His subreddit has completed metamorphed the second he started watching trump content. Feels like a facebook boomer page that's braindead anti left.
Wetbug75@reddit
If someone is just saying whatever is popular to say in order to get donations, I'd call that a grift.
Drayenn@reddit
And i think they arent doing this to have donations.
A grifter also means you dont believe in what you say but you say it for money. Asmon and Hasan 100% believe in their stuff.
V-Lenin@reddit
Asmongold has openly said he doesn‘t believe what he‘s saying
Drayenn@reddit
I've been following forever and i've never heard him say that. Actually, I've seen him laugh at people calling him a grifter because of the implication that it means he doesn't believe in what he says.
keeleon@reddit
And what if that's just their actual opinion?
Few-Requirement-3544@reddit
You're the first person I've observed to concede when complaining of the misuse of a word that the misuse becomes the new meaning. Thank you.
OldManChino@reddit
A grifter makes money off suckers, I'd say they fit the mould
Sensanaty@reddit
Grifter? I hardly knew her!
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
That’s how social media buzzwords work. The normies find a trendy new word and oversaturate the shit out of it. Remember when “stay woke” was a cool thing to say?
Bwomsamdidjango@reddit
Tbf Asmon is a lot more capable of looking at things from a moderate point of view. Hasan however promotes terrorist propaganda on a daily basis, which is ironic because he also promotes woman and lgbtq rights. Don’t think his terrorist buddies like that very much
Antsint@reddit
I don’t think Hasan is grifting, on October 8 he stood up for the Palestinians and lost like half his viewers which I think he wouldn’t have done if it was just about the money or views
ChadWestPaints@reddit
So he just genuinely holds horrible views and only coincidentally expresses them for money.
Antsint@reddit
If that’s how you see it then yes, what exactly do you find so horrible tho?
ChadWestPaints@reddit
No way in hell you know who hasan is and are completely unaware of his trash takes lol
Antsint@reddit
Just give me one?
ChadWestPaints@reddit
Close your eyes and throw a dart
WazuufTheKrusher@reddit
You gotta at least try to provide an example. Israel has killed tens of thousands of innocent people, if saying that they are an evil government is somehow a bad take I don’t want to have a good take.
Antsint@reddit
So you can talk shit but you can’t back it up with anything? Pathetic
Fizzzical@reddit
Not op, but I'll guess the staunch support of terrorism to start and genocide denial.
Antsint@reddit
What terrorism does he defend?
Fizzzical@reddit
The three H's, Hezbollah, Houthis, and Hamas. "Very musical people" he calls them.
Ham_Drengen_Der@reddit
Freedom fighters*
Antsint@reddit
I know, would you explain to me why exactly you feel they are the problem when Israel at this point cleansed 377.000 people from Gaza and these organizations have a right to resist under international law? Also do you not feel that terrorism is a bit randomly applied, the pflp for example is not a religious fundamentalist org and resist as international law allows them and yet they too are classified as terrorists
notpornaccount_@reddit
Israel are the terrorists. They have the right to fight against a fascist genocidal state.
Torre_Durant@reddit
Like supporting the idf and their genocide in Gaza?
BallIsLifeMccartney@reddit
what genocide denial? this is a genuine question
Fizzzical@reddit
Don't ask him what he thinks about the Uyghurs.
NowIDoWhatIWant42069@reddit
Don’t you know Hasan? There’s like a million bajillion things. Tons of them, there are so many things that are horrible. In fact, there is so much that I won’t even give you an example of one thing of the many tens of horrible things that I find horrible. There is just so many
Ham_Drengen_Der@reddit
If it is a horrible view to be an anti zionist then i guess i'd rather have horrible views than be a zionazi.
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
He just likes attention and validation, like most nepo babies.
hansuluthegrey@reddit
"Person I disagree with doesnt believe in anything " grow up
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
Found the Hasan fan. Hey point out in my comment where I said he doesn’t believe in anything please. Believe it or not, people can believe things and also want attention.
hansuluthegrey@reddit
Hey read your own comment and understand implications. You cant "haha I didnt say that wink" me lol.
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
Whatever buddy, keep building up your strawmen.
Antsint@reddit
Losing half his viewers isn’t very validating is it?
Lord_Chromosome@reddit
The rabid fanaticism of the remaining fans makes up for it.
Antsint@reddit
If you say so…
TheFalconKid@reddit
Yes because just like all nepo babies, he covers all of his family's expenses and far outpaces other family members in the same field.
AzorJonhai@reddit
On October EIGHT??? We hadn’t even entered Gaza yet and the bodies of Israeli civilians were still warm. Disgusting.
tdupro@reddit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA "We hadn’t even entered Gaza yet"
AzorJonhai@reddit
Want me to say it again?
JynFlyn@reddit
No it’s already clear the level of intellect we’re dealing with here.
AzorJonhai@reddit
Are you saying that on October 8 there were Israeli tanks driving through Gaza? Or do you think that I don't know that Israel occupied Gaza and left in 2006? Either way, you're wrong.
Antsint@reddit
In oct 7 Israeli bombs where already dropping on Gaza so I would say the pilots where in Gaza while flying over the place
AzorJonhai@reddit
Do you mean to imply that airstrikes against Hamas were unjustified by October 8th?
Antsint@reddit
Astrikes against Palestinians have not been justified since 1948
JynFlyn@reddit
I was thinking of the operations that happened between 2006 withdrawal and October 7th actually.
AzorJonhai@reddit
Hasan wasn't posting about those operations though. And if he was, that's a deliberate attempt to justify/whitewash October 7th by equating it to Israeli warfare.
JynFlyn@reddit
Equating it to Israeli warfare would be inaccurate. They don’t commit nearly as many crimes.
Swagcopter0126@reddit
The apartheid didn’t start in 2023 bud
AzorJonhai@reddit
There was no apartheid in Gaza since 2005/6 when Israel withdrew.
Swagcopter0126@reddit
Locking a population inside of an open air prison subject to random incursions by the IDF counts as apartheid
AzorJonhai@reddit
No. A legally defensible blockade and occasional violations of territorial integrity are not crimes which together magically become apartheid.
Swagcopter0126@reddit
Why did Hamas fire rockets? How did Hamas form? Did they just appear out of nowhere 🤔
AzorJonhai@reddit
Hamas fired rockets because they hold the genocidal belief that any Jew living in the land of Israel must be slaughtered. Hamas formed out of Palestinian resentment towards the occupation. They are a religious organization as contrasted with the secular PLO, making them particularly extremist and unyielding.
sonofanutcracker_@reddit
People are beginning to realise history didn't start on October 7th.
Although the genocide has gotten to the point where even if you did believe that October 7th was when history started it's still clear that Israel have committed far more atrocities by any metric imaginable.
ChadWestPaints@reddit
History didnt start with the modern founding of Israel, either.
PlanktonWeed@reddit
Self report
ToxicKoala115@reddit
AzorJonhai@reddit
BOO! Did I scare you?
BlurredSight@reddit
October 6th doesn't exist in your timeline.
Ham_Drengen_Der@reddit
No, Hasan often gets called out for his opinions by his own fans and he does not apologise, he stands by his opinions and beliefs. And also he showers...
Asmongold flipflops his opinion whenever he feels like it. Also he doesn't shower...
Mesarthim1349@reddit
There is only one who is stronger
EqualityAmongFish@reddit
shoe never grifted tho
keeleon@reddit
She remained the same while the overton window shifted around her.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
void_17@reddit
Who?
Sysheen@reddit
I know this one. It's Boxxy
TheFalconKid@reddit
Nah she jumped into the same boat as Asmon when she had a kid.
KwintenDops@reddit
dazli69@reddit
Asmongold, at least isn't as morally deplorable Hasan is.
The worst thing he said said is that he didn't care about the Israel palestine conflict for having a "inferior culture" which is still fucked ou because those are still people. Then later apologized for it.
Hasan said that the CCP was justified to conquer Tibet because they had slavery.
One showed apathy and the other justified it.
On top of that he supports terrorist groups, suggest raping women it's ok if their parents are wealthy And treats minority groups like shit for bruising his ego.
The unclean one has a better moral compass.
LordIVoldemor@reddit
I was looking for this comment. Asmon definitely has a better moral compass lmao
marius_titus@reddit
People call him a right winger but the dude is a center liberal. He's pro choice and pro LGBT etc, he just says shit in the most inflammatory way possible to get hate clicks from retards like Hasan.
fizzle_noodle@reddit
Lol, he "apologized" for it because he literally said Palestinians essentially deserved to be "genocided"- literally used the word "genocide" in his rant.
The clip you showed doesn't show what you just claimed. It shows a clip of one streamer watching another streamer claiming that watching a some clip where the music is (according to the post it looks like it was from) playing an old Yemen folklore song and showing random shots which look like footage from the 80s showing a bunch of what appears to be middle easterners dancing and marching. What's even funny is that I actually tried to find the context of the clip which they "link" in the description, but it takes me to a blank page.
At least in this clip, Hasan doesn't say anything like what you were saying (I know clips of middle easterners singing in their "scary" language MUST mean it's automatically a propaganda for a terrorist groups).
It's also funny because Asmongold literally justified a genocide, even using that exact word, by claiming that ALL people of that "inferior culture" deserved being killed- a blatant racist and bigoted thing to say. You think THAT is less "morally deplorable"? It seems to me that the only reason you say that is because you probably agree with that sentiment yourself.
Pompmaister@reddit
Average Hasan simp. I don't even need to read it. Touch grass.
dazli69@reddit
Asmongold said that he didn't care because their culture was inferior, and even if true that's still dehumanizing.
You haven't addressed Hasan justifying the CCP taking over Tibet with the same logic, and he didn't apologize for that or any of his other abhorrent takes.
Has it occurred to you that the video got removed because it breaks youtube TOS for being terrorist propaganda?
And what about the other 2 clips I linked? How about him saying it's ok to rape women if their parents are millionaires/billionaires? And how about the clip of him berating a trans person for criticizing him for losing a debate? He is a piece of shit.
fizzle_noodle@reddit
Yeah, because the talk of "inferior culture" and "western values' hasn't been used in the past by past far-right groups. I did Nazi you literally defending this.
You didn't link it, so I don't really care to address it unless I see the context or even just the basic video.
What's funny is that every video you link is a 1 minute or less of context-less video of Hasan in a middle of one of his rants and think that's some kind of proof of your claim. In fact, it's pretty indicative of your intellectual dishonesty think that linking a 39 sec video for his supporting "raping women" when he literally says in the last few seconds, "In a pen with one another is ultimately getting them away from the broader society. I'm not stating that it's a good thing that date rape is happening." Even the clip with it's lacking context, he denounces it. On the other hand, I can watch the full Asmongold video and say, yeah, this guy is a pretty racist supremacist, and anyone who watches the full context of that clip would come to that same conclusion unless they were racists themselves.
dazli69@reddit
You're assuming the worst implications possible trying to find a dog whistle where there's none while trying to defend and make excuses for Hasan suggesting for the rape women for having rich parents. Stop doing tricks on it bro.
I am not going to keep wasting my time arguing with the dick rider of a terrorist apologist.
justarandomreader1@reddit
The roach king is a centrist
Hasan is a far leftist
People are saying asmongold views are inconsistent. But the fact is, he's also not agreeing to the far right
We should stop comparing the two and just compare hasan to a alt-right youtubers like that hella jacked guy that exposes aoc
Although he's not a streamer, but he's consistent in his view of things like hasan. Just on the opposite side
xjrsc@reddit
Hasan went to protests while asmongold complained about Hasan going to protests.
ApostatisZero@reddit
Blocking traffic isn't protesting.
Hasan also went to a child sex trafficking brothel. But I guess that's not important because according to him. "The vibes were immaculate."
Nah bro there's better meat to ride, you can do better.
xjrsc@reddit
Give me an example of how to correctly protest.
Proof of the brothel stuff please.
on3on3_@reddit
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ELGKpS06GA8&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD
In the first minute he admits he went to the brothel artemis but lies that they were raided for only tax evasion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36043834.amp The same brothel raided for tax issues and trafficking
Protesting on the side of a road, not blocking traffic, and not causing property damage or harassment, would generally constitute a peaceful protest
xjrsc@reddit
I guess I should've clarified. I meant proof of the child trafficking with respect to the brothel. "brothel stuff" was all encompassing. The claim is that he went to a child sex trafficking brothel. Implying he is a pedophile.
When it comes to protesting, the vast majority of his protests streams were on sidewalks or in public areas. He did go on the street, with journalistic purposes just like CNN did.
Blocking roads has been used historically, so I see no issue with that. Hasan did not engage in any harassment or damage any property however police did shoot journalists and innocent civilians walking on sidewalks, some of which Hasan caught on camera. But yea, let's worry about some waymos and blocked roads.
Spanglejerp@reddit
Hasan is a compulsive liar, horrible misogynist, and war profiteer. He constantly platforms antisemitism and every one of his orbiters is spiraling out of control.
Asmon has bad hygiene and I don't like his takes on trump.
In short Fuck Hasan
whiplashMYQ@reddit
Insane take. Idc if you like hasan or not, he's been consistent over like a decade, and when he's changed his mind on something he explains why. And idk if it's grifting to constantly be on the ground supporting movements in person he supports on steam.
Asmon's a gamer and content creator first, and just does vibes politics and goes with what chat pushes him towards.
Quiet-Aspect7635@reddit
has he been consistent with denying rapes, or consistent with saying that raping rich white women is a good thing?
ykzdropdead@reddit
oh my dear god this guy unironically watches Hasan
whiplashMYQ@reddit
I do everything ironically, I'm dead inside
Nineflames12@reddit
on3on3_@reddit
One has fair takes and allows all kinds of differing opinions in their chats and doesn’t slander people. The other bans dissenting opinions, openly defends multiple terrorist organisations, denies rape, slanders people constantly, attended diddy parties and brothels that trafficked children, used police to harass an ex girlfriend, and is called hasan. Every single one of these things he has explicitly admitted to on stream btw
FatewithShadow@reddit
anita sarkeesian was a grifter. The bitch came, made millions and just disappeared. Leaving a trail of destruction, that the gaming community is still recovering from.
ondrasek569@reddit
One's a Houthi slut that fucked kids, supported terrorists numerous times, including having one on stream, frequently calls people Nazis, pedos and whatever else he can think of, despite the fact he most likely doesn't even know who any of those are and has a circle of orbiters, who are genuinely insane and should be sued the same way 3 of them just did.
And the other is a guy that lives in filth due to personal attachments with the most normal guy takes, that, even though one could argue the take was right, apologized for his radical take and took responsibility and actually improved himself slightly. Also, he doesn't have that dumbass circle, and also, Hasan simps his ass 24/7.
kpingvin@reddit
I never saw a video of any of these guys but they always look so pissed.
icepickjones@reddit
I don't understand how anyone can take Asmon seriously. Even if you agree with his views, he's unwashed and fucking gross. He looks like an unpopped pimple. He's got a constant greasy film on him.
That a guy you are proud to say "Yeah he gets it, he's speaking for me"?
Like no matter my opinions if the ones I agrees with came out of a dude who looks like that and lives like that I'd change my opinions.
Goingallinn@reddit
How come have i never heard of these two guys lol
fistofthefuture@reddit
What’s interesting to me is both their admiration for Mandani.
It makes me really think how Bernie might have beat Trump in 2016 when the DNC fucked him
leebenjonnen@reddit
Yeah the DNC really screwed the pooch on that one. The republican is an anti-establishmentarian and they decide to push the most establishment person ever. Bernie could've been the outsider to appeal to a lot of the voters.
cheese_tits_mobile@reddit
No they didn’t. It was on purpose. Establishment dems don’t want a SoCiAliSt like Bernie coming in to shake up the status quo. Controlled opposition.
leebenjonnen@reddit
It was on purpose, I never said it wasn't on purpose, but the decision to push her was such a horrible mistake.
Maz2742@reddit
Exactly, they deliberately fucked over Bernie because President Shillary Clitoris would've been amazing feminist brownie points.
What was REALLY the controlled opposition was thinking she'd be a shoe-in against Dementia Donny, the media propping him up, and her campaigning on "get a load of this guy, he sucks"
ISIPropaganda@reddit
Establishment democrats prefer Trump over Bernie or Mamdani and that’s a fact. Not many will say that shit out loud, but all you have to do is look at their actions.
Bloomberg and other NYC billionaires are saying they’ll fund a massive write in campaign against Mamdani. You know, instead of actually helping people. Just search Mamdani and Bloomberg and you’ll find countless articles from Bloomberg.com warning how the evil socialist is going to provoke the republicans into going even harder on their Make America Worse agenda, instead of appeasing them to slow down.
Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit
turmp isn't even anti establishment he's just kind of an asshole
leebenjonnen@reddit
His 2016 campaign was absolutely against the established order. Both Republicans and Democrats disliked him before he became the Republican candidate, when the Republicans faked liking him to get cushy jobs.
Invoqwer@reddit
The people that voted for him still see him as anti establishment though. It's weird but they do.
=
They don't realize that when Trump said that he was going to "drain the swamp", that what he really meant was he was going to move his own swamp over the old swamp
INCUMBENTLAWYER@reddit
The country was doing its best, economically, that it had in years.
Invoqwer@reddit
It's not about how the country is doing, it's about how people are feeling about their OWN personal economic situation. The facts are the facts. Even though the overall American economy // stocks // etc was technically up, the people generally did not feel that way at all. This sentiment is echo'd globally as many of the world's citizens are dealing with things like high interest rates, high housing costs, high grocery prices, inflation, etc.
SalvationSycamore@reddit
He said he was and somehow his greasy used car salesman personality didn't clue people into his dishonesty
TricobaltGaming@reddit
Just goes to show that when you tell corpos to fuck off and focus ok the people on the ground, peope tend to like that.
It's how trump won twice. He validated their feelings and pain. He redirected it somewhere bigoted and filled peoples' heads with lies, but when the opposition is telling you that what you are experiencing isn't real, "wE aCtUaLlY wEaThErEd InFlAtIoN PrEtTy WeLl," people tend to believe the guy at least trying to explain away the why eggs are getting more expensive.
Mamdani is doing that, but with an empathetic and left-wing approach to solving problems. Socialized grocery stores to drive costs down and reduce travel time for underserved parts of NYC, free bus fares to extend commute range for working class people who are struggling to find a job in their area, and a mental health and public safety approach to law enforcement, working with the police to ensure cops are able to focus on their jobs and not handle smaller things like a homeless person being disruptive or something, while also helping those homeless people get a clean slate and fresh start. If people can put food on the table and have a roof over their head, there is much less reason for people to commit crimes
He is identifying where people are struggling and offering direct solutions to those problems, rather than the democrat "private-public partnerships" harris kept suggesting that have basically never panned out for people.
ISIPropaganda@reddit
One thing I really like about Mamdani, AOC, and Bernie Sanders is that they don’t really care about partisan politics. AOC famously collaborated with Gaetz to introduce a bill that would ban insider trading in congress (which got struck down by both parties) and offered to work with Massie as well.
All three of them reached out to Trump voters and asked them why they voted for Trump and why they switched their vote from blue to red.
I recommend you listen to the answers they get. It’s pretty insightful. Especially the people who voted mix ticket — Trump at the top and AOC or Bernie as their representative. Plenty of Trump voters ranked Mamdani too, especially in the immigrant community.
PurplurPuzzlehead111@reddit
One time I saw unironically hella conservatives in Asmon’s chat show mild approval or even admiration towards Bernie Sanders when he reacted to a video of him calling out the Democratic Party.
twospooky@reddit
It's well known that Bernie has the most bipartisan appeal amongst the people. Unanimously hated by the Democratic and Republican systems though.
ISIPropaganda@reddit
Economic incentive is the best motivator. I bet even the most staunch anti-DEI supporter would agree to install affirmative action if you give him or her free healthcare in exchange. Heck Trump’s whole schtick is fearmongering about finances, blaming DEI and illegals for the fact that you can’t afford a home in the era of abundance.
GalaXion24@reddit
Basically running someone like Bernie loses you the "centrist" vote, at least if the other guy is more centrist. What we're seeing though is that centrists have lost their appeal and the centrist voting bloc is not as important as it used to be.
Teknicsrx7@reddit
Even Joe Rogan was pro-Bernie, the Democrat party pushed people away and Republicans just took them in.
Obeesus@reddit
It may seem weird, but if their was a venn diagram for who would vote for Bernie or Trump, it would be a circle.
StolenNachoRanger@reddit
Populism is pretty in right now.
stillmahboi@reddit
Which is why it's stupid the left doesn't realise they can use populism as well.
It's what the Korean left do. Populism goes both ways but the dnc incorrectly assumes centrism will give them the most votes. America is too radicalized for red states to vote dem anyways, if they just went full 'eat the rich' they'd get more votes.
sadorphannoparents@reddit
has to be an incel mentality. dude saw two famous guys and immediately thought about them having she x
LoinStrangler@reddit
You're delusional if you think a socialist jew would win a general election especially after he lost the primaries.
fistofthefuture@reddit
Jesus dude
LoinStrangler@reddit
What, I'm Jewish...
There's no way you can carry these 2 types of baggage in the US, the socialist being enough to sink any presidential candidate.
Neonwater18@reddit
Mexico of all places elected a socialist Jew to their highest office.
LoinStrangler@reddit
Mexico is not the US
Neonwater18@reddit
If Mexico can do it we can too.
1ncorrect@reddit
That’s because we don’t have a progressive party, we have Conservatives and we have Blue Gay Conservatives.
Although actually the Red Conservative Party is also pretty gay, those dudes will pass anti gay legislation and then go across the street to get turned inside out by some twink.
Novareason@reddit
*Mamdani.
BlurredSight@reddit
Found Cuomo
DeceptiveDweeb@reddit
it's not even a question
dems don't want to represent their constituents
KaChoo49@reddit
If a candidate is popular with two of the dumbest motherfuckers out there, that’s probably not a great sign
I don’t think the coveted ‘massive dipshit’ demographic is gonna swing many elections
waffles153@reddit
Mamdani is dope
Prancer4rmHalo@reddit
Say what you want about Asmon..
Hasan is a complete fucking pussy..
Dude spends hours talking shit about the hallmarks of western society and imbibes every single one of them in his personal life.
Ultimate pussy poser wannabe.
hundenkattenglassen@reddit
Honestly I can’t wait for both of them to fuck off permanently from internet and everyone forgetting about them. I’ve genuinely never watched a damn second of any of them and I still know about them. I’m being force fed their bullshit and I hate them both for it.
Thats my take on them.
Statharas@reddit
Eh, in Zack's defense, he can actually back his claims, even though he may be wrong.
Hasan is almost always wrong in everything, he just supports what gets him views.
TamLux@reddit
there gets a point in any political ideology or religion when you just start sounding like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk1Ra8rhUo0
IAMJIMMYRAWR@reddit
DON'T TAKE THE OPINIONS OF E-CLOWNS SERIOUSLY!
BraveSirLurksalot@reddit
"Wow, so true."
Gilgamesh107@reddit
only one of these used a dead rat as alarm clock
only of these would wipe the blood from his gums on his walls
im no hasan glazer but at least the dude can brush his teeth
pedronii@reddit
One dude doesn't wash himself, the other supports terrorist groups and rape
I guess the second one is better bcs he brush his teeth
TheActualKingOfSalt@reddit
only one of these praises terrorist groups
Torre_Durant@reddit
Asmon supports the IDF killing innocent people. Just because they are backed by a government doesn’t mean they can’t do terrorism.
LJWacker@reddit
Only one of these glazed a Houthi soldier
SorosBuxlaundromat@reddit
Do you have any real reason to believe that Rashid Al-Haddid is a member of the Ansar Allah Brigades?
MatthewMob@reddit
Which one?
memefarius@reddit
Imma Be real, you are right, but at the same time, you are attacking the person, not their ideas/opinions.
Final verdict:Ad Hominem
Dogulol@reddit
asmongolds opinions arent even coherent enough to attack. He isnt smart enough to form such opinions. He sees something, feels something, says something based on that feeling, however irrational, racist or hypocritical. At least hasan has proper opinions that he can defend with arguments and has been relatively consistent over the years
thesniper_hun@reddit
no he doesn't. he couldn't defend a single one of his points debating a drama youtuber and Ethan Klein lmao
Dogulol@reddit
there was nothing of substance argued with ethan and he bassicly conceded to any actual political arguments. The rest was personal slop i do not really care for. You arent being fair at all, if you actually watch any of these people the likes of ethan or asmon or xqc make no effort to convince a single soul they just say shit. The debatelords like hasan and destiny (before the sex pest grift) at least made arguments
thesniper_hun@reddit
its unreal that you guys believe this, he got Hasan to literally say he doesn't believe rape victims unless there is video evidence because "circumstantial evidence isn't enough"
SorosBuxlaundromat@reddit
Yeah, calling your own wife a terrorist is a sure sign that you're winning the debate.
Mr-Stuff-Doer@reddit
Hasan has said he would not be surprised if rape occurred on oct. 7, but he believes it was not systemically planned and utilized by the group. He also does not believe it happening would change the dynamic.
Hamas came into power because Israel helped them do so, because they wanted extremists in power so they could have an excuse to continue their illegal occupation of Palestinian territories
Dogulol@reddit
thats all you got as a gotcha from that whole conversation? him saying he needs more than circumstantial evidence to believe the largest propaganda machine of the 21st century which was preaching the racist myth and selfadmission of burned babies at the time? At the worst case scenario its just a misunderstanding of what circumstantial evidence is (ie not considering dna and forensic evidence as circumstantial). On the other hand ethan called his wife a terrorist and immediatly caved to any arguments actually about the I/P conflict bc ethan is obviously a mentally ill crackhead with no actual political arguments, as was the whole "act" of their podcast together. The debate lords at least have opinions, despite again, often being wrong. The likes of xqc, ethan, asmon, adin ross etc do not they are genuinely uneducated and uninformed drama tubers
thesniper_hun@reddit
no, the burnt babies thing came from a mistranslated french report which was said only one time by an Israeli official literally the day following the massacre when nobody really knew what happened. great misdirection though.
it's not a gotcha, it just proves that Hasan is still the same misogynistic frat bro as he used to be
Dogulol@reddit
thats just untrue. The burning babies thing was literally a common idf claim, endorsed by both bide and netenyahu, and multiple idf spokepeople. How it originated is unclear but whats a fact is that all these people repeated these claims and amplified them MONTHS after oct7 despite KNOWING for a fact it wasnt true.
How does not immediatly believing israeli narratives "mysoginy" let alone indicative of him still being a "frat bro"? Do also keep in mind that his argument was never that sexual assault in oct7 didnt happen, just that its really dpesnt matter and its scale is meerely exagrated for propaganda purposes to draw attention from the actual attrocities.
Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit
oh so it wasn't so bad then lmao
therealLavadragon2@reddit
That's the same as hasan. Both these creatures are mid-wids operating on emotion, whims, fancies and their below room-temperature IQ.
fckwb@reddit
so basically just hassan? for hassan who has asmon living on his hend rent free, i need serious answer here how do you even defend his habit of making shit up whenever he defames asmon or tectone?
Dogulol@reddit
what shit up? What lie has he said about either lmao? that tectone and his father are rapists? thats not a lie. That asmon lives like a roach and this habbit of his likely contributed to his mothers death? If you want to see someone making it up as they go just watch asmons reaction to hasan protesting ICE
EditorYouDidNotWant@reddit
Idk the dead rat alarm clock might transcend ad hominem
Sexuallemon@reddit
Ad Insanum
Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit
what ideas?
OldManChino@reddit
It's not an ad hominem you fucking midwit, as there are no points or arguments to ignore in favour of it... it's simply stating facts about two people
hansuluthegrey@reddit
That's fine. His ideas an opinions are just as wretched as him
Grenyn@reddit
If he ever had original ideas and opinions, that time is long gone. He only adopts whatever fresh opinion he finds, and then as soon as it's not one his fans want to hear, he pivots to the opposite opinion.
Too often for it to be changes of mind of heart.
BlurredSight@reddit
His ideas are just as stupid, all of his points revolve around fearmongering them against us to try and appeal to some idea. Or they come out uninformed as all hell, he still doesn't know what a sanctuary city actually is and what it entails
RarityNouveau@reddit
Only one of these supports terrorist movements.
Only one of these justifies genocide.
I’m no Asmongold glazer but at least the dude doesn’t openly advocate atrocities on streams
icabax@reddit
Didn't Asmon get banned for justifying a genocide?
NobleTheDoggo@reddit
No? He got banned for saying that palestine and much of the middle east is an inferior culture compared to the west primarily because of shiria law
RarityNouveau@reddit
I don’t know I don’t watch him or Hasan. If he did then he can go to hell too. I just don’t like people who advocate for genocide.
Delicious_Diarrhea@reddit
Na he said he didn't give a shit what happens in Gaza due to their attitude towards Jews. That's enough to get him banned. Shit like that is an average day on Hassan's stream.
Darkmayday@reddit
u/raritynouveau readiness to every comment but this one lol
Darkmayday@reddit
U/raritynouveau replies to every comment but this one lol
The_Gunboat_Diplomat@reddit
Asmongold literally got banned for defending genocide
Good. You literally just have to stop bombing them and the terrorists will go away. Psychopathic to have any other position.
Sleepparalysisdemon5@reddit
Yeah because Twitch is known for their totally justified and rational bans lmao. I swear only exposure people have of Asmon is through rage bait out of context clips or the latest r/LivestreamFail post. Hell, i don't even like the guy that much but this is bullshit.
No they won't, Hamas won't stop until Isreal is eradicated. That's kind of their whole thing. Though not bombing children could certainly help make them lose power among the general population. ALSO, don't support terrorists.
The_Gunboat_Diplomat@reddit
The American police are unreliable, therefore when they arrest a guy for something he did on live TV he probably didn't actually do it
Ok who gaf, Hamas emerged due to Israel.
I prioritize not supporting genocide over falling for the same shit the United States of Israel has been making up about anyone they want to bomb for decades
Sleepparalysisdemon5@reddit
Yeah that's the nice thing with the police and twitch shenanigans, you always have a footage of what's happening. If you watched it you would know he didn't support a damn genocide. He is mostly apathetic.
Like i said, don't support terrorists. You can criticise both, i know you can do it my friend.
The_Gunboat_Diplomat@reddit
What do you call support for a government's violent international actions while being apathetic to the consequences, because that sure as shit ain't neutrality
And nothing stopping you from criticizing both sides while recognizing that the ideal outcome for humanity is Israel and its sponsors losing
Sleepparalysisdemon5@reddit
Yeah ok buddy, footage is there for all to see. Think whatever you want.
Sure, why not. You can think it that way. I don't like Isreal either, they are a colonialist state created from the expulsion of the native population based on some fairytales 2000 years ago. Though i'm not sure i would call Isreal losing the ideal outcome, depends on your definiton of losing. Let's make one thing absolutely certain, these groups will not stop until Isreal is destroyed. They want revenge, they want "justice", they want their forefathers lands back. And Isreal being destroyed means hundreds and thousand of jewish residents will be killed, if not most of them, and more will be expelled. If you want Isreal just stopping its campaign and give complete autonomy to Palestine, sure. They would live happily ever after.
The_Gunboat_Diplomat@reddit
Sure is way fucking closer to "justifies genocide" than anything Hasan's ever said lmfao
Am I supposed to think of this as bad
Gilgamesh107@reddit
Touché
RarityNouveau@reddit
Also I know I’m being snarky but legit I don’t care about either guy. I just hate the dude who keeps saying he’s left and communist while also being one of the richest streamers (who also advocates for genocide and supports authoritarian theocracies) more than the guy who’s cringe and needs to bathe more cuz he’s a slob.
BlurredSight@reddit
He openly calls for the government to tax him along with the other 1% and still ends up donating to causes that he has been supporting for over a decade now.
It had to be leaked that he donates to the Amazon Labor Union and is one of their largest individual donors
Going on a tangent about how communist (he's proclaimed socialist) means you can't be rich just exposes more about your own lack of knowledge
eberlix@reddit
What you describe is socialism though, that isn't exactly communism. Though I suppose this gets confused regularly in the USA?
moo_innator@reddit
I mean you're whole comment just shows that you don't even understand what you're criticizing. We live in a capitalist society, how is he supposed to be socialist ? Houses, utilities, food etc all still cost money so he needs to have money and spend it. You can't just "do" a socialism when you wake up. Socialism is about systems not individuals, so when someone says they are socialist and your response is "bUt YOu hAve MoNEy" you make yourself look so uneducated.
airwatersky@reddit
While he is "rich", he is not the same rich that he criticizes, who are the billionaires or the top 1%. Yes he lives better than me or you will ever in our lives but his money cannot really leverage much other than for personal/familial security or low scale charities. I really hate that as a jab on him (despite not being a Hassan fan) because its utterly pointless to mention.
RarityNouveau@reddit
He has literal generational wealth and hates capitalism but benefits from it and also steals people’s content for a living. He’s a capitalist’s wet dream. Making money by doing nothing and starting off wealthy by being born wealthy.
ccountup@reddit
Terrorist movements and genocide? So the IDF?
BreakinMyBallz@reddit
The IDF commits war crimes, but at least they're usually targetting military hideouts. Hamas will just target 1200 civilians at a music festival.
eberlix@reddit
Well, at best Israel attacked public spaces and gave the Palestinians a heads-up about it. IDK too much about the Geneva Convention / Suggestion, but I doubt this would justify civilian casualties.
OldManChino@reddit
Are you brain damaged?
Sensanaty@reddit
Literally everyone in that entire geographic region is a terrorist my dude
RarityNouveau@reddit
The IDF isn’t the only group of terrorists in the Middle East, bro.
Swagcopter0126@reddit
No actually Hasan doesn’t support the terrorist actions of the IDF and America
BreakinMyBallz@reddit
whataboutism.
Are they both bad or just IDF/America?
RarityNouveau@reddit
My bad I forgot the Houthis attacking neutral vessels and kidnapping their crews and never releasing them was a good thing. I also forgot that the internet thinks that China systematically getting rid of the Uyghurs is a good thing for some reason.
Swagcopter0126@reddit
Going 0-2 in one comment is crazy
Clintyn@reddit
What fun is that, from those answers, I could say the same about you! (Well except the streaming part.)
SalvationSycamore@reddit
I think Hasan has even streamed from his bathtub. If Assmon did that I genuinely think the crust holding him together would dissolve and he would just disintegrate.
NobleTheDoggo@reddit
Asmon streamed himself talking a shower.
AzorJonhai@reddit
Context for the first one?
Novareason@reddit
He had a dead rat in his room. When the sun hit it, it'd smell bad and wake him up. Asmonghoul's rat alarm clock.
AzorJonhai@reddit
astagfirullah
PlantRoomForHire@reddit
I'd hardly call asmon right wing
Pompmaister@reddit
Hasan is someone who calls anyone who doesn't agree with his political opinion a far-right Nazi. Even if that person is a centrist or even a leftist.
How do these people not see the irony in that?
OCE_Mythical@reddit
Ain't even a question, Hasan is insufferable. I lean left wing but he's like so far left that he'd say I'm right.
Pompmaister@reddit
Essentially, anyone who doesn't agree with this man gets called a Nazi, pedo, rapist, etc. Yes, very progressive Hasan.
BroboCopY@reddit
Left wingers went so far left that even centrist are now right wingers for them sadly.
Sec_Chief_Blanchard@reddit
Who the fuck is hasan
WebSufficient8660@reddit
Champagne socialist who funnels money from his working class viewers and uses it to fund his extravagant lifestyle
Pompmaister@reddit
And support the terrorists organizations he so openly loves.
schmitzel88@reddit
Man idk who the fuck either of these people are. These zoomer internet celebrities get mentioned all the time on reddit and I've never heard of a single one of them
RecordEnvironmental4@reddit
Yes, however only one is a terrorist sympathizer
yoavtrachtman@reddit
Both
Ok-Print-@reddit
Never watched any of their content , I just know the names from memes , I only first heard of Asmon less than 6 months ago
yoavtrachtman@reddit
One is a filthy person who doesn’t care for the well being of minorities around the world, and is constantly being referred to as a cockroach.
The other is Asmongold.
Schuttelbier@reddit
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therealLavadragon2@reddit
Slaneshi daemon vs Nurgle daemon
robotbadguy@reddit
Surprising amount of Hasan dickriders in a 4chan reddit. Did he send his army here or something.
levijames14@reddit
Fine, I’m biased, but if you watch either of these people and think that Hasan is just pandering compared to asmongold. It’s literally night and day. If you don’t see that then you’re blinded by not liking the person rather than recognizing reality.
justarandomreader1@reddit
Yeah, you're biased.
You think hasan is not pandering because he's agreeing to your extreme views about things
I'd say you'd think h3h3 is in the wrong on the recent controversies lmao
Asmongold is a centrist. So you'd think he's pandering to people
But the fact is, he's just reasonable. No need for extreme right or extreme left bullshit
You can agree and disagree on some things
There's no black and white on politics and the fact is, most hasan supporters see the world as black and white
Israel bad, palestinian good, idf bad, hamas good
I'd say that's a naive way to view the world
fizzle_noodle@reddit
Only right-wingers are going around claiming Asmongold is "centrist" with the only justification of "just trust me bro". Is it also hilarious that just recently Asmongold supported Trump's goal of ending Birthright citizenship- literally the law since 1868- but of course that is your "centrist" take. Is this really your pathetic attempt at gaslighting?
justarandomreader1@reddit
It's a well known fact that birthright citizenship has been abused for decades
There's a line where the whole country just goes "enough" and this is it. It's a centrist view
The far-right view would be declining naturalization and legal immigrants
The way you and the dems are saying that centrist views are far right radicalize more people than trump himself
It's a centrist view to follow the law and not abuse the system. Most of "legal" immigrants agree to this. That's why they're in the US in the first place
I would say that you should do some more research on what this means
It doesn't mean that every US children is not american anymore
It just meant that illegal immigrants that have babies on the US would not be a US citizen.
It also meant that those children are never gonna be separated from their parents (because either they naturalize themself to become US citizens or be deported together as a family)
"Ohh what about those illegal immigrants that have an US wife/husband?"
Well.. they should follow the procedures like other immigrants
If they didn't commit a crime, they wouldn't be deported in the first place
fizzle_noodle@reddit
No, it isn't. This is "centrist" view only has become serious in the public discourse before Trump's 2nd term.
"Support for birthright citizenship policy is highest among voters under 30, at 83%, and lowers steadily as voters' age increases, to 55% of voters over 70," Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling, said.
(https://www.newsweek.com/birthright-citizenship-polls-american-views-2091884)
It's hilarious that MAGA cult members think most of America is like them in their extremist view, especially when ALL you needed to do for "research" was literally a quick google search. It's obvious you are a right-winger who thinks your stance is a centrist viewpoint, which is why you can unironically call Asmongold a "centrist".
justarandomreader1@reddit
It's really laughable the fact that you think a college poll of 1000 people represents america as a whole 🤣
If 68% of america rejects the idea as a whole there would be mass riot greater than the floyd riot
The fact that there isn't one just proves the point.
Either people that oppose it don't actually care about the problem or that they're secretly agreeing with it but afraid of the social reprecussion from agreeing with it. Choose one, both can't be true at the same time
1.2 million children born in 2022 to undocumented parents. We could stop this exploitation of childten if they ended birthright citizenship
Stopping exploitation is a centrist view.
fizzle_noodle@reddit
Are you really this much of moron? No seriously, did you actually try thinking you were making fun of me by calling Emerson College Polls, used by both right-wing and left-wing news organizations and think-tanks, as a small "college" poll. Actually, do you even know what a poll is, or even know what data science and statistics are? It's even funnier since I listed Reuters/Ipsos, ANOTHER major polling organization. But like all right-wing MAGA cult members, everything other than what your dear leader says is correct and normal.
To be honest, I actually started laughing at you after reading your last post. You just proved how absolutely ignorant you are, and like all MAGA "thinkers", you are actually too "low IQ" to even understand that basic fact. You are the walking definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. 🤣🤣🤣
Neo_FOVoid@reddit
They are both terrible to spend real life minutes to watch.
Hasan has nearly zero accountability and has is insanely privileged on twitch, people who do the same as him or even have the same political views sometimes get banned and he gets nearly nothing.
Asmongold’s lifestyle doesn’t match how he talks, and he has very little if any discipline. He tends to talk like a frustrated teenager about topics and say outlandish things. Though while writing this I realize a lot of things apply to both.
Having watched both in the past for a period of time I can say that not watching either is the best decision any one can possibly make. “Political streamer” has got to be the worst type of entertainment to consume in the current day.
PassiveThoughts@reddit
These random Anons need to stop asking to be spoon-fed what to believe.
FesteringAnalFissure@reddit
Hasan is a triple distilled, hyper refined grifter who takes money from the poor (who give it willingly) and gives it to the rich (himself), which is based.
Asmongold is Nurgle's favorite and needs to be pressure washed, which is neither cringe nor based; it's just disgusting.
Nineflames12@reddit
🤝 the only correct take in these festering comments
grinwild@reddit
I miss mount offs and transmog comps 😞
BoxofJoes@reddit
Yeah that’s the case with a lot of streamers and content creators, when they stay in their lane they’re cool and fine, when they break into shit they clearly know nothing about what the fuck are they even doing. Asmon should have stuck with MMOs and actually playing games, Mutahar should have stuck with tech and cybersecurity, and while I would have said Pirate Software should stick to game dev and cybersecurity stuff like a week ago recent events are revealing he’s just an overall moron.
Mindrotter@reddit
Back when his content was actually enjoyable
sanesociopath@reddit
I love how these guys are treated as 2 sides of the same coin.
It's hilarious because like him or hate him at least Hasan has some actual effort in his videos
dazli69@reddit
ChadWestPaints@reddit
/s?
Seems 90% of his content is just watching other people's content with barely any reaction or commentary. Hes not even in his chair like a third of the time.
throwtheclownaway20@reddit
Why does Asmongold like Mamdani? He knows Mamdani's not a cock-sucking conservative, right?
justarandomreader1@reddit
The roach king is a centrist. People can agree on things while disagreeing on others
Crazy how that's a flaw in your mind
I'd bet you watch hasanabi archives lmaoo
Hasan editors are lazy af
Everytime asmongold refutes something, the editors have the receipt on the clip
"What are the disagreements? What are the well thought arguments?"
Well, if hasan watches the entire thing he'd know
But he only watches a carefully selected clips soo
Just my opinion but hasan is the grifter here
Bright_Beat_5981@reddit
Everyone is a grifter. You, me. Grifters.
According to Reddit.
vapordaveremix@reddit
The rule of thumb is if someone on the internet is trying to get your attention for ad revenue then they're probably a grifter.
BlurredSight@reddit
Hasan stopped running ads a while ago
justarandomreader1@reddit
And that makes him less a grifter than he already is?
Bro is a socialist while getting every advantage a capitalist have
KamiCrab@reddit
Asmongold like many others are only right wingers because they believe that a conservative world might just possibly get them some pussy for once
Lilshadow48@reddit
you can give Hasan shit for a lot of things, but he definitely believes what he says.
keeleon@reddit
Which is why he lives in a million dollar house and watches cat videos while children are dying in gaza.
Lilshadow48@reddit
lmao
V-Lenin@reddit
Asmongold has openly said he doesn‘t believe the shit he‘s saying
Winter_Low4661@reddit
Yes, Hasan is a grifter. Asmingold however is simply the Roach King living his best roach life.
Ploomage@reddit
Both “tell them what they want to hear” slop posters. One has a better appearance of legitimacy than the other.
Both, however, are out of touch and unemployable.
Laxhoop2525@reddit
One is probably a sex pest, and the other couldn’t possibly be a sex pest because his odor would drive any woman far away from him.
Marydakitten@reddit
They are managed by the same company
cavendishandharvey@reddit
I dislike champagne socialists more than I dislike garbage trolls
Isneezepepsi@reddit
anyone who like either of these guys is too far gone
lvl_60@reddit
Same coin
TouchGrassRedditor@reddit
One actively dissuades their supporters from voting for the candidate that best aligns with them while denying that they do so
The other actively encourages people to vote for Trump despite claiming to be centrist and denying that he does so
Like mirrors of each other
_Tal@reddit
True af, no idea why you got downvoted
TouchGrassRedditor@reddit
The algorithm shows Hasan stans every post that mentions him and they brigade the thread. Every time
Pr1zzm@reddit
I'm just waiting for one of then to accuse everyone else here of being Destiny watchers. That guy lives rent free in all of their little minds.
Kaleb8804@reddit
Saying “don’t vote like I do” and following it up with “America deserved 9/11” doesn’t really sound like he’s being genuine lmao
iiOhama@reddit
Don't forget the
If there's 1 thing I hate more than myself, it's streamer culture and the dumbasses enabling it.
GulagGoomba@reddit
I think your conclusions are incredibly simple minded and the only people who are benefitting are the two streamers themselves.
TouchGrassRedditor@reddit
Idk if you've seen the numbers that these streamers are putting up but its not insignificant and it's not going down.
The majority of people get their news from social media now
Isneezepepsi@reddit
anyone who defends one and hates the other is wrong.
anyone who hates both is correct.
final verdict
Zelgon@reddit
One of these guys supports terrorists, the other doesn't. It's pretty black and white
ThatFabio@reddit
I miss Asmon's wow rage streams. I don't care why he goes where the money is when his total daily expenses are a 12 pack of Dr Pepper and a $2 steak
hansuluthegrey@reddit
One actually has beliefs and goes to protest and does charities and tries to do good(he does usually still suck tho and does frat rich boy shit)
The other is nasty gremlin man thats just shitty and stupid.
So if you pay attention and dont just do the "my le epic opinion is that politics where people are happy is bad because Im smart" its obvious which is good
-Shy-Guy-@reddit
They both are slack jawed Neanderthals
dukeofsponge@reddit
Anon is a grifter.
TheFalconKid@reddit
Yeah the guy who doesn't put IP on any of his work is definitely a grifter.
Wantitneeditgetit@reddit
Anon, the answer is that grifting is openly their job.
VagHunter69@reddit
Whether you like Hasan's opinions or not, the dude has had a political platform since day one. Comparing him to Asmongold is dishonest. Asmongold at some point realised he gets more viewers by being a grifter and kept on going.
mottokung@reddit
Cockroach man is more entertaining
Wonderful_Silver@reddit
Hasan and Asmon are actually lovers
hucklebae@reddit
Asmon is also like....clearly degenerate. I don't like Hasan, but clearly asmon is worse by basically any metric.
disappointingdoritos@reddit
Anyone who watches either shouldn't be allowed to reproduce
AbIaZoLUTEMadMaN28@reddit
Imagine watching reaction videos. Is there anything more pathetic?
KwintenDops@reddit
belacscole@reddit
There both probably in bed together doing this because it makes both of them absurd amounts of money.
Smith685@reddit
One is a flithy otaku and the other actively supports terrorism, guess which is which
Visible-Original4561@reddit
Their’s no such thing as pandering if you think about actual deeper left wing and not just surface neoliberalism like right wingers think leftism is. Left Wingers fight on so many topics and issues.
OMGRedditBadThink@reddit
People who watch streamers are wii todds
cae37@reddit
This is literally how most, if not all, media outlets operate. “I am right, they are wrong. Listen to me, not them.”
fatsexyitalian@reddit
They’re both just…terrible
ETL6000yotru@reddit
man imagine how annoying the people who genuinely believes what they spout
izza123@reddit
isthisyourdeleted@reddit
Yes