Zero Tax: need more explanation
Posted by Belzaem@reddit | Firearms | View on Reddit | 14 comments
Could someone please explain it to me like I’m five?
If that bill does pass House and get signed into law, what does zero tax on NFA does really mean?
Does that mean we still have to do paperwork and engraving for silencers and short barreled shotguns and rifles? I’m under the impression is that the NFA itself is not repealed but we no longer have to pay for the tax.
Am I correct in assuming that?
SeveralLeg7772@reddit
Don't worry about it. Nothing ever happens, and if it does, only then do you have reason to be excited. But for now let the thought fade away in as much bliss as its equivalent ambiguity upon arrival in your mind.
KnuckleDragger2025@reddit
Nfa has been upheld as a tax. If it is no longer taxed then it should be thrown out as nothing more than a registration.
Just my understanding of nfa history.
kelldor69@reddit
Also wondering does this include form 1 suppressors/sbrs?
Strudledoom@reddit
My biggest question as well, if it’s just for transfer and not manufacturing not as big of a win in an already shit bill
Dracco5569@reddit
Keep in mind that when talking form 1, we are MAKERS, not manufacturers.
TheGreatTesticle@reddit
It means you still get fingerprinted and added to their not-registry.
Michael1492@reddit
Yes.
ImportedBoot@reddit
It could. But the Supreme Court has stripped the power of a nation wide injunction from the lower courts. This means a case would have to make it's way all the way up to the Supreme Court to really damage the NFA in a meaningful way. This in turn is a problem because the Supreme Court has been unwilling to view a large portion of 2A cases that reach it.
Specific_Rich2758@reddit
There still is a cost: whatever it costs for you to provide fingerprints, in addition to the time. The NFA will focus as a de-facto registration at that point. With the current draft, the "zero" dollar tax will only apply to suppressors. You will still need to pay $200, to transfer "any other" firearm. Whatever that means. There is still a lot to do.
BeenisHat@reddit
Your assumption appears to be correct.
What we're not sure of is how to approach the NFA in the future. Legally, it could have faced challenges as a tax that is used to violate rights kind of like a poll tax. That's why the GOP could go after it in a reconciliation, because it's a tax. But now that the tax is $0, it has no impact and only exists as a law which has been upheld in the past.
So while the GOP might have given us a little gift in the form of making suppressors cheaper, they may have inadvertently screwed us in trying to fight the NFA and forcing us to get congress to change the law.
MadMints@reddit
Registration, paperwork, fingerprints, engravings, letters of approval to cross state lines, inability to loan the registered item to friends/family, the whole 9 yards, everything else about the NFA process stays in place. The only thing that changes is that you dont have to pay the $200 tip to the Feds for the privilege of having your name put into an unconstitutional registry
Belzaem@reddit (OP)
But if we are still required to do the paperwork, wouldn’t it still be part of unconstitutional registry?
firearmresearch00@reddit
Yes. We'll see how it pans out
MadMints@reddit
Forgive my wording, yes you still get put in the registry, they just do it for free now