What is Watermark's The Porch like?

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Captain_-H@reddit

With a pretty good dose of homophobia mixed in

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YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit

I’m not religious but I have half a mind to start a church that takes the greatest hits of all the Christian flavors

Big active fun community like the nondenom evangelical mega churches
Catholic and Eastern Orthodox rituals and iconography and aesthetics and architecture in general
Black church music
Episcopalian beliefs regarding female clergy, gay people, etc
I get the concept behind sola fide but I really do think it’s good to urge people to do more than just have faith and to actually go do good works too

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You just (mostly) described the United Methodist church! Not to be confused with the Global Methodist church, which recently broke off because of the UMC's full acceptance of gay clergy. My UMC is catholicism light in a building that, while non-traditional, is thoughtfully designed and has won AIA awards, run by a proud and open gay gentleman who once to described to me that his favorite way to relax is to hit the Oak Lawn streets with the boys.

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YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit

Yeah, the Methodists and Episcopalians seem pretty kind in my experience

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Wonderful-Bite7007@reddit

Just watch out in Dallas. The only 3 Episcopal churches that support same sex marriage in Dallas are Ascension, Transfiguration, and I believe St. Thomas is the 3rd. Dallas is the most conservative diocese in the Episcopal Church. Outside of Dallas most Episcopal churches are more progressive, at least on sexuality.

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YaGetSkeeted0n@reddit

huh, that's surprising. i remember the ones in Fort Worth, or at least everything near downtown, all seemed pretty progressive on that.

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hisdeathmygain@reddit

I go to a UMC church for that reason. I was raised Baptist and non-denom. We left Baptist to escape hate. I found some ok non-denoms, but since 2016, even those formerly safe feeling places started feeling hateful. I love my church, but I am still struggling with the methodology of Methodism. I am still not a fan of responsive reading and speaking things by rote together. Feels cult-like.

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JulsTiger10@reddit

It’s late (early?) I read “non-demon.” Twice. Wondering what Baptists were pro-demon, before I read it again.

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couchjellyfish@reddit

Also it sounds like ELCA Lutherans. ELCA Lutherans are very warm and non-judgmental. (Note Missouri Synod Lutherans are different and very conservative.) It breaks my heart when people assume all Christians are patriarchal and homophobic. Please look wider than the mega churches for a Christian community.

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JoyfulCor313@reddit

I’ll take sola fide over sola scriptura any day.

Whatever. The “motto” of my high school marching band was fide et opera: faith and works. If a marching band can do it surely a faith community can figure out how to pull it off! :-)

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Lanky-Highlight9508@reddit

Sign me up.

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Wonberger@reddit

Throw in some potlucks and I’m down

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TexasBaconMan@reddit

Methodist casserole

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bebopgamer@reddit

Come for the prayers, stay for the culture war

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

While supporting a rapist

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elonzucks@reddit

100% of megachurches are bullshit

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Moist_Syllabus6969@reddit

How many times have you been? Any specific examples?

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trailofglitter_@reddit

you’re going to notice a lot more BS if you go. my brother and i went for a few weeks, preached tithing a lot. no one would talk to us (we were one of the only black people here), even though we’re both friendly and eager to make more friends. so many cult vibes

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Mr-Top-Demand@reddit

I guarantee you were not the only black people there out of 3.000 people

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trailofglitter_@reddit

that’s why i stated “ONE of”. and we were. there were hardly any other minorities.

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Mr-Top-Demand@reddit

Blatant lie. Watermark is very diverse

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trailofglitter_@reddit

really? have you been there recently? because we were ☺️

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Ill_Storm168@reddit

The Table at Concord Church may be a better fit for you.

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Lanky-Highlight9508@reddit

It's a money making venture - have you seen these church leaders' homes?

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Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit

Go to Shoreline Church at Walnut Hill and 635. It's an actual diverse congregation of all ages.

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trailofglitter_@reddit

my family and i went to shoreline for about a year. i appreciate the diversity but unfortunately, if you don’t fit the instagram aesthetic, it’s very hard to make friends.

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_______woohoo@reddit (OP)

yikes

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TTRedRaider27@reddit

Religion and cult vibes?!?! I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

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ratfink_111@reddit

Went there years ago. Until they tod us how to freaking vote. Now I’m agnostic. Thank you Watermark!

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Electrical-Peak5685@reddit

Do you remember roughly what month? I’d love to try and find the sermon.

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ratfink_111@reddit

It was during the 2016 election season

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Did they tell you to vote for the rapist?

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ratfink_111@reddit

Stood up and walked out immediately. His was in 2015 btw.

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ratfink_111@reddit

Stood up and walked out immediately. This was in 2015 btw.

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imamakeyoucry@reddit

I would avoid. I am a former Watermarker. They are going to try and get you to become a member and join a community group and that is a very weird experience.

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_______woohoo@reddit (OP)

sounds very familiar in my experience

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imamakeyoucry@reddit

They take religion very seriously. In the male community group lots and lots of discussion of porn and masturbation. I have heard through the grapevine people have been kicked out of Community Groups for having sex.

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Mr-Top-Demand@reddit

That’s not true in the slightest

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imamakeyoucry@reddit

Which part? I know the first part is true. I lived it.

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Slalom8@reddit

First hand experience is helpful but “heard through the grapevine” is rarely a reliable source

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Wonberger@reddit

Nothing says straight quite like sitting around with the boys and talking about jerking it

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imamakeyoucry@reddit

You and your buddies don’t do that?

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bobo-brockins@reddit

Asking on Reddit is going to get you answers that all lean pretty far one way tbh

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bebopgamer@reddit

I mean, if your perspective is different, please share it. Otherwise seems like a fairly pointless comment.

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No-Presentation4225@reddit

Your response seems pretty pointless as well

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d3dmnky@reddit

My responses are reliably pointless. I’ll leave one here.

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No-Presentation4225@reddit

This was pretty pointless

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d3dmnky@reddit

By achieving the goal of being pointless, it’s technically no longer pointless. Oh well. I tried.

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No-Presentation4225@reddit

Oh trust me. It’s still pointless

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d3dmnky@reddit

Thank you!

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RelationOk3636@reddit

I’m a devout Christian and I agree with the comments. Watermark is weird and cult-y and should be avoided.

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SadatayAllDamnDay@reddit

Yeah...I'm adjacent to the evangelical community in that area (lots of family and friends) and Watermark is sorta notorious for isolating members from their previous familial and social circles.

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d3dmnky@reddit

I went there once around Easter with friends. It felt a bit like church rush week.

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Did they have something like the little sisters we had in college? You know girls from an affiliated church giving out sexual favors?

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Complex_Win_5408@reddit

A response that doesn't actually respond to the question. Thanks for your opinion.

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milobaskin@reddit

It’s a great opportunity to meet young singles, I’ll admit that - they’ve created a fun atmosphere; everyone is good looking and seems to have themselves relatively together. That said, I stopped going to watermark overall for a few reasons. First, they require you to do things around the church to be a member like commit to volunteering as a greeter or parking lot attendee for at least one Sunday a month. Secondly, they’ve kicked people out of the church for being gay. That just didn’t sit right with me, why not kick out all the sinners lol? The cheaters, the gluttons, the greedy, etc. So, my advice would be to go and check it out, maybe make some friends or meet people but it’s probably not the most genuine longterm church situation.

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Glass-Bobcat4357@reddit

I have attended Watermark on and off, including going to the Porch on Tuesdays. I am religious and grew up going to a megachurch as well. Here is my opinion and some responses -

The Porch has a very see and be seen attitude for people that go. The same group of people you see clubbing at 2am is the same people who will go. Nothing wrong with that, but for them it's checking a box.
Watermark itself has become a great service I listen to on Sunday's. The main pastor, TA, has been there a couple of years and is fantastic. I would go for him alone.
There was a "changing of the guard" years ago where a lot of the former leadership are no longer there. A lot, but not all, of the preconceived notions about Watermark are from that prior leadership.
I have attended in person on and off for 10 years and have never been pressured to join as a member and commit to a small group.
I have a family member who is a member. I asked them about some of the rumors about giving your tax return and financial information to the church - and he said that he never did any of that. The one requirement was to join a small group.
No passing around of offering plates to pressure you to tithe.
The first Sunday in June, TA addressed it being pride month. He said the Church will never condone what they believe is a sin, but will welcome anyone who wants to hear the word of god into their church.
The latest drama is having a registered sex offender since 1996 on staff as a volunteer. He serves on a ministry that focuses on recovery and prison ministry and is not allowed or part of any childrens ministry. Easy google search will give you more.

No harm in checking it out. Fully understand it has pros/cons for anyone attending. TA is the reason Im still attending.

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Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit

the rumors about giving your tax return and financial information to the church - and he said that he never did any of that.

Odd... We know multiple families that were at Watermark and involved in Small Groups over the past 10 years that were asked for very intimate financial information, and not just in passing to help someone calculate a 10% tithe.

The story we always heard was "Oh that was a small group leader who was just doing what they thought was right. It's not the official position of the church to ask for that." Which seems like total cop out.

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playballer@reddit

I’ve heard a lot of this too. Even encounters of discussing marital sex logs in small groups for newly married couples. The gist was sex makes for a happy marriage so they wanted to make sure people were having enough. Just bizarre for church

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Veronica612@reddit

I went to a service tgere with a friend several years ago. The entire focus of the sermon was on the importance of small groups and that financial information must be shared in the group so you can encourage each other to give. (The word tithe was not used.) I was horrified. My friend has been involved with Watermark off and on for about 15 years and said that being in a small group is pretty much required which she doesn’t like. Also the church members and leaders say a lot of anti-Catholic stuff.

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Keep_Plano_Corporate@reddit

I hate to say it, but in Watermark's defense, tithing is a thing and if going to church and hearing about it and seeing a collection plate each week causes you great discomfort, you should probably adjust your expectations. I'm not sure why so many people get on Reddit and act horrified a church is passing a weekly collection plate and asking their partitioners for a tithe.

That being said the degree to which some churches beat you over the head with giving in Small Groups does seem inappropriate. Matthew 6:2-4 is commonly accepted as the verse that talked about Giving Secretly. So based on that, I would have left any church or small group asking for the exact dollars and cents of what I've given to any religious body.

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Veronica612@reddit

The collection plate doesn’t bother me at all.

I have attended many churches in my life (I’m 55) and have never felt pressure to tithe the way I did at Watermark. And I think they want more than just 10%.

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cramothmasterson@reddit

This is accurate. Small groups are supposed to get deep into each others finances, discuss budgets together, etc. So while you may not have to disclose your tax forms, you are supposed to share details about your financial life with your small group. I no longer attend watermark but did for many years.

Oh. And the Porch is like a Christian(ish) dating meat market. Good luck!

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zeno2502@reddit

…if you’re gay, we consider you a sinner, but we are so full of Jesus that we will welcome you…and tell you that we never condone who you are….

…and all the members congratulate each other for being so open…

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terivia@reddit

Also they have a registered sex offender in leadership for 20+ years. But the gays are a problem.

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raccooninthegarage22@reddit

Is TA not Todd? The founder?

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ArtegallTheLame@reddit

Todd Wagner stepped away.

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durtyprofessor@reddit

GOOD.gif

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raccooninthegarage22@reddit

Good riddance

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Glass-Bobcat4357@reddit

No it’s Timothy Ateek. He’s been on staff for a few years but became Lead Pastor at the beginning of 2024.

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raccooninthegarage22@reddit

Ah. Is the red headed guy still the leader of the porch? Took over after JP, talked about A&M all the time

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e-milk-y@reddit

No David Marvin is at what used to be Watermark Plano

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raccooninthegarage22@reddit

What’s it called now?

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e-milk-y@reddit

Citybridge

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CellistNo6103@reddit

Thank you for taking the time to post this. I've been a member for about three years and it's evident that many comments here are not familiar with Watermark.

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scarset@reddit

As a Christian, The Porch was a great way to grow my faith and learn real world applications / teachings to topics we face today. I recommend checking it out--The Porch especially is pretty low stakes, you can slip in and out if you don't like it. I usually sit on the second floor balcony area which is a bit less daunting or overwhelming. If anything, give the sermons a listen via streaming and see if you like it. Great worship too

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herdthink@reddit

there was a girl that used to come into the coffee shop i worked at nearby. she’d be very flirty with the male baristas, and invite them to the porch with the implication of hanging out as set up as a date. more than one went thinking she was into them, only to get ghosted the entire time. that was enough for me to never be interested, let alone the gross ass megachurch shit.

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MrsMontgomery@reddit

Ah, the ol' honeypot trap. Sounds like a great way to bring people to the lord! We'll give them hope for a date and then Jesus will pop out and go 'surprise motherfucka!', now drink my blood.

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rebelwyn@reddit

I have countless stories about people’s experiences and my own experiences with watermark. I grew up in a single parent household and my Christian classmates at the school I went to all judged me and my mom because she was divorced (like I could control that). I remember them saying my parents would go to hell because they were divorced. I have had multiple friends who either had lake houses or ranches that had been in their family for generations and 3 different families told me that watermark tried to pressure them into selling the property and giving more money to the church because it was “taking them away from being at church on sundays”. Someone in my family attends watermark and they had to do ivf to have kids, and they had to meet in front of the elders at watermark to get permission to freeze a certain amount of eggs. Watermark granted them permission to freeze 3, then none of the eggs took. You do have to share your finances and they encourage you tell your small group everything to “hold you accountable” but really they just brainwash you so that they can use the “sins” you share with them against you later. I also had a family friend who invited me to a sermon one Sunday. She said it was very important that I go to this particular sermon which I thought was really odd. Turns out she had emailed their pastor and asked him to give a sermon on how wrong it is to wear bikinis. This was because I went to swim at their house and their daughter wasn’t allowed to wear bikinis and she asked her mom if she could start wearing them after seeing me in one. The entire sermon I felt like I was being shamed at 14 years old for wearing a bikini. It was insane. They are all about controlling their members. I also know multiple couples who have tried their pre-marriage class and they were shamed for living together before marriage. They felt so uncomfortable and called out in front of the entire group that none of these couples went back to the class again. They also don’t have a cross on the outside of their church… which I find to be strange. I could write a dissertation on all of the unbiblical things, brainwashing and hypocrisy of watermark and its members but that would take a few days lol

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MathematicianKey721@reddit

A positive environment. Which is why the people against it are so negative.

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_______woohoo@reddit (OP)

Just because they have a negative opinion about the church doesn't mean they are negative people. They have a reason they feel that way just like you do.

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currycourtesan@reddit

They're getting brainwashed and scammed

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JustAnotherVSCOGirl@reddit

Had a friend go here and join a community group. Her group “leader” advised her to quit seeking therapy while actively suicidal bc all she needed was their guidance and support. Also got her in touch with a real great conversion program. Saying I hate Watermark would be a gross understatement.

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_______woohoo@reddit (OP)

holy shit

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JustAnotherVSCOGirl@reddit

IRL dating app for white rich homophobic evangelicals. 🙄

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_______woohoo@reddit (OP)

nightmare fuel!

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Prestigious_Pie_966@reddit

If y’all are looking for a church’s that is truly following the Bible to the letter, visit Storehouse!

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Electrical-Peak5685@reddit

I don’t attend Watermark and there’s a lot of trash people can talk about Watermark. Once you start participating at WM, you’ll find issues. You’ll find that at every church or really anything you attend frequently.

With that said, I still think it’s an absolute miracle that 3,000 young people will go to church on a Tuesday.

I’ve attended a lot of smaller churches in much smaller towns most my life. Young adults are absent from church on Sundays let alone doing something on a weekday.

I’d ask your friends if you could attend with them. I’m sure they’ll be excited to show you around.

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gonghis_khan@reddit

Never done The Porch, but I do attend Watermark on Sundays. Their service is great. Music is brilliantly sung, produced, and played.

TA the Head Pastor is such a great orator

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Brightnightblade@reddit

Never been to a sermon or anything else there, but I use their coffee area as a place to work lol. It’s open during the day and no one bothers you!

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TigOhBiddies@reddit

When I first started going to Watermark, I had said goodbye to church for over five years, and I was convinced that my mind couldn't be changed despite giving it one more try. Besides, I thought, I don't do megachurches anyways.

That was over a decade ago, and I continue to go to this day--thanks to the kindness of the Lord in humbling my heart. I've discovered some of the most Biblically-minded teachings and authentic individuals that I've ever encountered throughout my three-decades of faith.

I am a bit too old for The Porch, but I've listened to their sermons, especially on dating when I was single and found that ministry to be extremely encouraging during that season of my life.

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BlackStarCorona@reddit

If Baby Billy Freeman isn’t making an appearance I don’t wanna go.

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littlebev@reddit

I require Teenjus screenings!

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TheDakestTimeline@reddit

Lord, we pray, that if the worst should happen, anything they promised in life should still be fulfilled.

I'm talkin' 'bout Bonkers!

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masonjar014@reddit

Unfortunately, my impression of Watermark is that of most mega churches. Watermark kicked out my friend for being gay, parishioners tried luring me into the church that was self-serving and not out of my own interests or wants, and the church displays a modern twist that still reflects classic dogma. I wouldn’t recommend. While I’m not religious, I have been part of the Methodist church for over a decade. I’ve found local churches often accomplish the community so many people look for. Plus hymns are more interesting to me than contemporary praise songs.

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first_follower@reddit

If you’re nonreligious I highly recommend checking out a local UU church. There are a few in the area. We love ours.

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cowboysmavs@reddit

It’s great and I met some cool people. Everyone on here is far left and atheist so will hate any church no matter what. So take their comments with a grain of salt.

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filmdeostar@reddit

What's it like being the only non-atheist on reddit?

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cowboysmavs@reddit

It’s hot down here in hell with y’all. Jk

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whittyhuton214@reddit

Nah, there's at least 2 of us on Reddit

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Bbkingml13@reddit

The people I know/knew from there weren’t really religious growing up either. Then they started going to the porch, and stopped talking to non watermark people. One of my best guy friends even went on some podcast about religious couples and it honestly grossed me out. Like he texted his small men’s group to get approval to go on a date with this girl because she declined to start talking with him the year prior because she was starting up a relationship with another guy. When that didn’t work, she reached out to him. And the consensus was that god would allow him to get to know the girl better even though she previously declined.

It was so fucking weird.

Then they got married and had a really big wedding. I don’t think I knew a single person there, or who was even invited, other than his family. Like literally all new people from the porch.

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ionlymemewell@reddit

Run. Run fast and run far.

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Joesuds@reddit

Watermark is a cult.

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e-milk-y@reddit

As someone who spent years at WM, I would not recommend it.

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johnnyclash42@reddit

Visited once to stop a friend from hounding me incessantly (this is common for the watermark folks- they will really try to get you “plugged in”). The preacher was wearing all sorts of designer clothes and accessories and was giving a sermon on why it’s bad to be materialistic. That was good enough for me to chuckle and avoid.

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skyeth-of-vyse@reddit

When I first moved to Dallas in 2015, I was trying to find a soccer group to play with at Inwood Soccer Center since I lived near the area.

A friend told me that Watermark had a soccer ministry with several teams. Most of the players met at Watermark and go to The Porch.

Since I grew up religious, I didn't mind joining a church-affiliated soccer team to meet people and to play.

Watermark had three teams across different divisions. And the team captains were also church small group leaders.

One of the main captains hosted a come and go party at his house so that all the players could socialize. At the party, one of the other captains has a circle of players around him. Curious I went to see what they were talking about.

The captain shared his personal testimony in a room full of newcomers that he "struggled with the sin of homosexual attraction in his adolescence" because he was in locker rooms and was sexually aroused by his teammates naked bodies. He felt that God was telling him to give up something he loved (soccer) to stay pure and not fall into sin.

Now that he's in his 30s, he has a handle on the sin of homosexual attraction, and can go back to playing soccer (the Watermark teams are all co-ed) and he is grateful he found this soccer ministry.

I could hear the self-loathing in his voice and the guilt/shame he lived with in order to be "free from sin." As a professional mental health counselor, I just can't believe someone had to reject who they are to fit a narrow religious perspective.

I quit the team after that season and thankfully found other teams to play on, but that memory of this man confessing in front a room full of strangers sticks with me.

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whinybear22@reddit

Bad.

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OpportunityGlum5662@reddit

They want to front like they are modern church and modern views but then will play a gay conversion video with someone’s testimony about how they used to be gay but have turned away from their fleshly sin and are not gay anymore. Total bullshit if you ask me.

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zeno2502@reddit

…if you’re gay, we consider you a sinner, but we are so full of Jesus that we will welcome you…and tell you that we never condone who you are….

…and all the members congratulate each other for being so open…

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TopNeighborhood2694@reddit

“God has spoken to me, and He commands you right now to send your offering—only then will His blessings be unleashed upon your life. Don’t delay His will!”

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hananobira@reddit

I have other critiques of Watermark’s philosophy, but they definitely aren’t pushy about donating and they aren’t prosperity gospel.

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Chreiol@reddit

Maybe that’s changed, but I went once 10 years ago and the whole gist of the “sermon” or whatever they call it was stories of how people donating to the church was what really changed their life for the better.

I did not return.

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Veronica612@reddit

Same experience around 2019.

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DTGC1@reddit

Why don’t you go see for yourself? Seems like better way to answer the question than get everyone else’s take. It’s a church. I’m sure you’ll make it out ok.

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raccooninthegarage22@reddit

I went to WM for a year and a half, was a regular attendee of the porch. The porch is a great way to make friends quickly, but they only stick around if you buy into the cult. I got connected to..I’d say a group of 20 people and got invited to all kids of events. When it came time to be a member, I got taken through the classes and was on board enough with all of it, but then they asked me to sign their “membership covenant” (it’s a contract) and I said that seems very legalistic to me and seems unbiblical. I got asked one more time, and then my community group told me I couldn’t come back to the group unless I repented and went to their other program called “re-gen, which I had just completed. It’s very much a cult, the head preacher makes a fuck ton of money on book deals, and the former guy who led the porch names JP had major creeper vibes. He’s now the head pastor at a mega church in Waco surprise surprise.

Stay clear of the porch, try a smaller and more personable church if you’re looking for that kind of community.

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gothsappho@reddit

i'm jewish but my only experience with watermark is being told aggressively and repeatedly when i was around 8 by another child my age that i was going to hell. he proudly went to watermark

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soggyballsack@reddit

It's a mega church, people don't go for religious purposes, they go to look like they're doing something religious to counteract all the hate they spread.

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NekkedMoleRat@reddit

Watermark Jesus drives a Lexus, prays in script,
Cleanses brown skin with a leadership trip.
Grace comes dressed in business attire—
Woke gets ghosted, and poor gets “on fire.”
It’s God’s country club with a cross on the gate—
Just smile, tithe, and assimilate.

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troutforbrains@reddit

All of their women's groups are during the middle of the workday. It is not an accident or oversight and is reflective of their core beliefs around women in society. No thanks!

They will kick you out if they even think you are a member of the LGBTQ community. No thanks!

They spend 6 figure appearance fees on celebrity guest appearances to bolster their own community, money that could feed a shit load of people. I understand that community-building is part of any faith expression, but this seems disgusting and antithetical to the message of the gospel. No thanks! Interestingly enough, I never see billboards asking for volunteers to come help run a citywide food drive.

In a similar vein, they own many millions of dollars worth of extremely lucrative property that they pay no taxes to Dallas on. They spend millions of dollars to maintain that property solely so that they can maintain their enormous size which then facilitates the 6 figure appearance fees of celebrities. No thanks!

The existence of the Watermark compound directly hurts the rest of the city both in the lost revenue for the city that could be used to improve things for everyone and for the propagation of their hateful doctrine.

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Is that the place where the lead pastor was (or was in the begining phases of) cheating on his wife with a member of his congregation but severely downplayed it by just saying he was over sharing via txt messages and not that he was a sexual predator preying on someone who literally believed he spoke with the authority of Scripture?

Or am I thinking of another place?

Either way, it is better than the church that knew it was led by a confessed pedophile.

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AppealConsistent6749@reddit

Aren’t they all ‘that place’? Nevermind, they are all ‘that place’. Plague on society

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dddonnanoble@reddit

You’re thinking of the village, another local megachurch.

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NecessaryViolenz@reddit

No shit? Matt Chandler was cheating on his wife?

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dddonnanoble@reddit

He was DMing another woman on instagram, who was a member of the congregation. A friend of that woman saw the dms, felt they were inappropriate, and confronted Chandler about them. Chandler went on leave for a bit but was reinstated. We don’t know what the content of the messages was.

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Like I said downplayed it.

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mxbrpe@reddit

No

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Oh you're right. Is this is the one that just hires pedophiles but isn't lead by a confessed pedophile

https://premierchristian.news/us/news/article/church-responds-convicted-sex-offender-serving-leadership

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dddonnanoble@reddit

Yep that’s the one!!!!

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Wonberger@reddit

Isn’t this the church that requires tithing and preaches women are basically men’s property? Pass.

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tequilamigo@reddit

Haha no

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dragonfly931@reddit

You go there if you're single. They loooove to play matchmaker

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FluidFisherman6843@reddit

Is this the place that claims to be a Bible believing church but then ignores most of Titus and places those that are clearly prohibited from serving in leadership to positions of leadership?

https://premierchristian.news/us/news/article/church-responds-convicted-sex-offender-serving-leadership

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Pangolinger@reddit

Wow! I should be surprised.

For anyone who doesn’t want to click on the link, Watermark defended having a convicted child rapist be in a leadership role in their ministry.

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Wonderful-Ant-9448@reddit

Why are you hater of watermark? I don’t go to church, just curious