The meth cook's wife | TheaterFire

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Penorl0rd4@reddit

Skyler is a nag but let’s be real, whose mom isn’t. She’s understandably very upset with Walt about him being elusive and emotionally unavailable after his cancer diagnosis. Her only major fuck up is getting involved with fraud for Ted and even then she tries to cover her tracks but Ted’s dumb ass fucks it up. Skyler couldn’t have known they needed the money because Walt never told her. She constantly tells him to get out of his work if their family is in danger and Walt consistently puts them in danger. Yeah, her cheating on Walter with Ted was kinda a bad thing to do but I think it pales in comparison to the crimes Walter committed.

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anal_opera@reddit

Yeah but Skylar has a professional makeup artist and is still a Wisconsin 6, and Walt is the dad from Malcolm in the middle so Skylar should shuddup.

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the_marxman@reddit

Wisconsin 6 is too low. Skylar is like the actress they would get to play Hillary Clinton in the Hollywood biopic. Hillary is a Wisconsin 6 so by the nature of Hollywood casting Skylar is at least a Wisconsin 7, 7.5 with good hair and lighting.

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PurpleWoodpecker2830@reddit

Young Hilary tho

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igerardcom@reddit

WOULD

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EatPrayFugg@reddit

Pity she grew up to sacrifice children

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21Black_Mamba21@reddit

God forbid women have hobbies 😒

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Halcyon_156@reddit

When you go to pick up a couple pizzas for your family and wake up in an alley with no adrenaline glands.

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BanzaiKen@reddit

I banged a chick that looked like her and those DSLs will live the rest in your head rent free for the rest of your life. I fully understand Bill's commitment to chasing that dragon.

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Reading_username@reddit

a Wisconsin 6

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CompactAvocado@reddit

am not from wisconsin. are the women there less appealing or more? do the cheese hats increase attractiveness. please educate.

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eat_my_bowls92@reddit

Depends on the area. Up north? Usually hardened women who work in the yard/don’t care to put any work into their appearance (which is fine). Big cities like Madison, Milwaukee, or its surrounding communities? Very good looking people everywhere, but they’re also public transport cities, big on healthy lifestyles so people there skew more attractive.

This is all my opinion as someone who has lived in Wisconsin for almost a decade.

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WeathermanDan@reddit

up north is literally tall blonde scandinavians everywhere you go. as others said they tend to dress in a more plain or even tomboy manner, but there’s no denying they’re good looking

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Dont_Touch_My_Nachos@reddit

White Tomboy utopia? Have I found my dream place?

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Letters_to_Dionysus@reddit

I think they're just meaning 'Midwest 6' but being more specific for humor. the idea is that people who are super attractive move to the coasts

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Low-Entrepreneur5785@reddit

As a regular visitor of the cheeseland I can say that it is a land of extremes, some woman are just gorgeous (but don't know how to dress) and others are ogres. There's no middleground nor just average girl who dresses well and, hence, it's more beautiful.

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F-Lambda@reddit

so a 6 is a rarity?

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AHighAchievingAutist@reddit

Everyone also conveniently forgets the trauma Skylar went thru the tauma of the death of her son after he was run over and mangled by a fucking horse in Deadwood in 1876 too, it's absolutely disgusting 😡

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RarityNouveau@reddit

I’m sure the actress is a nice lady but GODDAMN does she look like Woody Harrelson in a fucking wig…

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Deruji@reddit

Cats should eat her face

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CT0292@reddit

Dewey knows more about it than I do.

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Ekillaa22@reddit

Also EVERYONE skips over the whole sexual assault thing he did to Skylar ….. cheating kinda justified to me

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PossiblyAWorm@reddit

Dude I can’t believe I had to scroll this far for this to be brought up. I fr was gonna comment this if you didn’t.

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Phenns@reddit

The issue is that she is annoying, which is a worse crime for a fictional character than any actual crime. A character can commit genocide and be the fan favorite if they're interesting. A character can cure cancer and be universally hated if they have a nasally voice.

Skyler nags the protagonist of the show, and is generally frustrating in every scene she's in. That's what makes her so hated.

Walter is objectively, morally, a worse person. That isn't what matters.

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James_099@reddit

If she didn’t give such a limp wristed handy, this whole thing would’ve been avoided.

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Weaponomics@reddit

She also smoked while pregnant

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Mrpettit@reddit

Skyler couldn’t have known they needed the money because Walt never told her.

Walter has terminal cancer, and Skyler couldn't have known they needed money?

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wattsup1123@reddit

The mental gymnastics, even still you would talk to your partner about a decision like that right? Especially when you weren’t the one that obtained the money or knew where it came from?

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wattsup1123@reddit

How long has this show been out now it’s the same bs all the time…she cheated on my guy and gave the money that he wanted to leave for them when he’s dead and gone to the guy she cheated with, and it’s not like the guy was a saint either he was committing tax fraud or tax evasion or something like that. Granted he’s not making drugs but he’s not innocent either so it’s hypocritical that she would support the person that she having an affair with instead of her own husband when they are both criminals and he was doing it out of love for his family….at least initially, I bet after that it got changed to do it for the kids..and if you say that she did it because they were going to get caught she should’ve talked it over with Walt first if anything since it is his money but she didn’t, she knew she was in the wrong and still went forward anyways and that just makes it all the more worse imo

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wattsup1123@reddit

How long has this show been out now it’s the same bs all the time…she cheated on my guy and gave the money that he wanted to leave for them when he’s dead and gone to the guy she cheated with, and it’s not like the guy was a saint either he was committing tax fraud or tax evasion or something like that. Granted he’s not making drugs but he’s not innocent either so it’s hypocritical that she would support the person that she having an affair with instead of her own husband when they are both criminals and he was doing it out of love for his family….at least initially, I bet after that it got changed to do it for the kids..

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BanEvador137@reddit

I'd even argue she didn't cheat on him. She tried to break up with him. She filed for divorce. She kicked him out. Walt refused to sign. He broke in and refused to leave the house. She had no options.

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Chicken-Rude@reddit

"till death do us part" etc etc

always puzzled me how this and other "vows" have been somehow made to mean "while i feel like it" rather than an actual vow... for life. lol

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cocofan4life@reddit

' till death do us part' is romantic as long as your partner isnt an asshole.

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BanEvador137@reddit

I feel like starting a meth empire kinda nullifies any vows

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Chicken-Rude@reddit

thats the thing about vows, they cannot be nullified.

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StillABuster@reddit

You’re gonna be real surprised when you learn about divorce

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OCT0PUSCRIME@reddit

I could be wrong but that might be the very thing he is complaining about

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BanEvador137@reddit

They absolutely can be nullified. Most vows are conditional. I bet you at some part of Walt's vow said something about how hed love and protect Skylar. Dealing meth is the opposite of protecting her.

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xpacean@reddit

I mean if you want to be anti-divorce in general that’s your right, but if divorce is ever justified then it certainly would be here.

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Uncle480@reddit

I think it's lumped in with a lot of other outdated sayings that people just "go along with" even though, in reality, they don't take literally.

"Till death do us part" is kind of a morbidly binding sentence when you don't consider how drastically your partner can change over time. Suddenly they may cheat, or become abusive, or develop a crippling addiction, and now they're a life-threatening burden to you and your children. Are you really willing to stay with them because of a single sentence you said on one day of your life?

On the other hand, it can be an endearing vow that people take to heart. Suddenly your partner gets sick, or loses the ability to work and your income takes a hit, or you find out that they are infertile. Sometimes that vow means more to people than any of those hindrances, and it makes the relationship stronger. I can see the pros and cons to it.

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Heresy_is_fun@reddit

Because people are stupid and make bad choices. If they actually meant "till death do us part," they'd be more careful with partner selection.

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Ekillaa22@reddit

Technically he didn’t break in if he owns the house

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HyperlexicEpiphany@reddit

I appreciate that you use the correct “whose” and split up “dumb ass.” good spelling is refreshing to see these days

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GroomaGooma@reddit

Cuck, 2. She aint a mom

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Penorl0rd4@reddit

Right, Walter Jr. and Holly were born through asexual meiosis

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SBDRFAITH@reddit

I think Skylars biggest fuck up was not taking her divorce lawyers advice and tirning Walt in.

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CidAndroid@reddit

It's always the terminally online fake experts who think they know what there is to know about pop culture.

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Penorl0rd4@reddit

So instead of offering a counter option you loft deft insults, classic Reddit

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Scarab_Kisser@reddit

You're devil's advocate

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SilliusS0ddus@reddit

We pay him good money down here

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homingmissile@reddit

I don't remember a single episode when breakfast kid was in any danger. Walt did a great job keeping the family away from the dangerous side of his work.

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BanEvador137@reddit

Two cartel hit men broke into his house are were minutes from hacking him to pieces.

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homingmissile@reddit

They knew the rest of the family wasn't home. If they just wanted to slaughter everyone they wouldn't have sat on the bed and waited.

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Uncle480@reddit

"If you try to interfere, this becomes a much simpler matter. I will kill your wife, I will kill your son, I will kill your infant daughter." -Gustavo Fring, telling Walt to stay out of his way while we plans on killing Hank

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qywuwuquq@reddit

Everyone can throw threats around while not everyone has the power to do them including Gus.

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BanEvador137@reddit

Have you seen the show before?

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Uncle480@reddit

while not everyone has the power to do them

Gus killed off an entire cartel ring in northern Mexico and took over the Meth business on the US side of the border while working right under the noses of the DEA. He even personally killed Lalo Salamanca in a shootout.

I'm not saying Walt didn't "save his family" in the end. But thanks to Walt's actions, his family was in danger at all times.

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Reading_username@reddit

Maybe just one of the last ones when he rugby tackles his dad

bro is crutchin' it up the whole series then breaks one off like Hunter Paisama out of nowhere

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_sophia_petrillo_@reddit

Also remember how even in the beginning he disappeared for days on end to cook meth and she doesn’t say shit?? Like she’s just supportive of him and knows he’s going through it so just doesn’t mention it for like a year? Until she finally puts the pieces together and calls his mom and everything adds up to being super suspicious. She was a SAINT for just believing him in the beginning.

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darvinvolt@reddit

I think people who don't touch grass enough think that in marriage your partner must be on board 100% with ANYTHING that you do

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Penorl0rd4@reddit

There’s a difference between buying a boat you don’t need and becoming a drug kingpin you media illiterate tool

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darvinvolt@reddit

The hell? I was agreeing with you, or maybe I misunderstood, tell me what's the problem with my assessment?

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Penorl0rd4@reddit

I’m sorry I misread

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Ironborn137@reddit

no those are just republicans.

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lipehd1@reddit

She didn't cheat on Walter with Ted tho, that's something a lot of people don't remember. She quite literally wanted to get away from Walter, she wanted a divorce, but Walt refused to sign the papers, he was basically holding her hostage. She was not in a relationship with him anymore, he was forcing her to be with him. She slept with Ted to try to force Walter to let her go.

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Butter_bean123@reddit

I think Skyler honestly is at her most unlikeable in Season 1. Her telling Elliot about Walt's cancer and then getting mad that Walt's mad about it, and the whole family intermission that was designed to guilt Walt into going to treatment stand out to me as exceptionally inconsiderate and cruel, even if you could excuse some of it as Her still trying to process the fact her husband is going to die soon. All things considered she still has the moral high ground since Walter has cooked meth and killed people at this time, but her behaviour in season 1 really sells why Walt feels he's never had a say in his own life

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Sinfere@reddit

Tbf Walt would have a say if he just talked to his fucking wife lol.

Walt refuses to let Skyler in on anything, and so she takes what she sees as desperate actions to stop her husband from fucking dieing, and he has the audacity to get pissy with her for it!

All Walt had to do was simply NOT be a drug dealer and accept the charity of his old friends, but he's too prideful. Skyler repeatedly tries to understand him in s1 and he constantly shuts her out. Walt drives Skyler to all her actions in s1 because he decides he'd rather become a drug dealer than have an honest conversation with his wife and admit he has a problem.

I'm not saying Skyler is an angel - nobody in the show is, everyone is flawed - but the idea that Walt feeling trapped in his own life is somehow Skyler's fault is just some bullshit Walter cooked up to justify his shitty treatment of her.

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chinoswirls@reddit

walt was very dishonest and lied by omission. he was a complicated character, who was facing death and making decisions thinking he would die from cancer soon.

he rationalized it by feeling the need to provide for his family his own way. he could have accepted the job and health insurance, but was dishonest about how it made him feel.

it feels like it is just a series of choosing the bad options and rationalizing it.

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Familiar-Preference7@reddit

Agreed. Season 1 Skyler, especially before finding out about Walt’s cancer, just comes off as an extremely high strung and unpleasant person. You get the idea that their household dynamic is very tense largely because she’s someone you need to walk on eggshells for. She becomes a lot more likable in the later seasons because she has a reason to act the way she does and most of her choices make sense given the circumstances.

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AaronYogur_t@reddit

Her aiding Walt with his crimes later on ie buying the car wash for him also could have ended very badly for her. She's incredibly lucky that the police bought what Walt was saying in that phone call and she avoided getting punished

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smokeymcdugen@reddit

She's incredibly lucky that the police bought what Walt was saying in that phone call and she avoided getting punished

No, that isn't luck. The police probably knew but didn't want to go into it since she's the sister of Hank, as it stains the department. Her career is being a bookkeeper, something that would be extremely helpful in laundering money.

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AaronYogur_t@reddit

The department is already stained though since Walt was Hank's brother in law. Would it really make a huge difference if both of his siblings in law were criminals instead of one? The phone call was to make the police believe that Skylar was helping Walt under duress instead of by her own choice

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Ironborn137@reddit

The other fuck up was the horrible birthday handjob.

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Silver-Performer818@reddit

TL,DR : she didn't get to smoke meth so she kept twerking

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hundenkattenglassen@reddit

I never disliked Skyler. Sure the cheating arc didn’t made her my favourite…but on the other the husband was actively cooking meth and killing guys (turned criminal) so myeah.

Her sister though, Mary or what her name was…god damn she gives Livia Soprano a fair competition in insufferable characters and that is damn impressive.

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unkrawinkelcanny@reddit

I never understood why she was vilified compared to all the other irredeemable characters

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WannabePokerPlayer@reddit

She’s the only character written to not be liked. You root for basically everyone except her at some point

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LukeJaywalker0@reddit

One of the great questions for the true media literacy geniuses. It's not that complicated. She's annoying. Everyone understands that killing people and running a drug empire is worse than cheating and smoking a cigarette. But Walter is entertaining when he's on screen and Skylar is obnoxious.

It's like some of these people genuinely would get confused if someone says they like Darth Vader but not Jar Jar Binks.

"DUDE he blew up a PLANET! How could you root for a genocidal warlord?!?!?!? He's the bad guy! You have no media literacy!!!!!"

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Equivalent_Ebb_9580@reddit

Not really, because Skylar hate is usually accompanied by the Walter White was right sentiment, at least in my personal experience. They hate her not only as a character but for everything she represents including the very realistic effects of Walter's power fantasy and the justified reactions to that. It would be more accurate of the analogy was everyone believing Jar Jar deserves the worst hell possible and sending death threats to the voice actor's house while commenting Darth Vader for being this misunderstood but cool anti hero

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LukeJaywalker0@reddit

In my experience, that's not common. I think some people see the tiny group that genuinely, in real life, hates the actress, and think that everyone who found her character annoying on an entertainment level is part of that group. I'll see people talk about Walter being justified or at least understandable more as a thought exercise than actually thinking all his actions were purely morally sound.

People will discuss how Anakin had his reasons too, but finally they all know he is the villain in the end.

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MrX-MMAs@reddit

DV and Jar Jar analogy explains it perfectly, “muh media literacy” folk are the most sad people out there fr fr

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IvanTheRysavy@reddit

She interrupts my crime drama with family drama thats why i dont like her

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Panzerkatzen@reddit

Because the show isn't just a crime drama, it's about Walter's ego causing him to ruin his life and the lives of everyone around him.

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DangerKid1347@reddit

You're getting down voted by people but I agree with you 👍🏻

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IvanTheRysavy@reddit

Idc i watched it for the meth bits

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KrishRB@reddit

Based

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dirschau@reddit

This puts all my feelings about both Skyler and Marie perfectly. And Walt Jr.

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Human-Boob@reddit

she interrupts me ogling Bryan Cranston’s juicy cranium when she’s on screen

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DarkToxins@reddit

Misogyny takes another one 😮‍💨

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

I mean the writers and the actress were incredible at creating this specific effect

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jonatna@reddit

Yeah, the show places Walt at the center and you want to see him succeed in the beginning. She is "getting in the way of that" for understandable reasons but it pits her as an antagonist. And more than being completely selfish and self destructive or even straight up evil, the audience cannot stand a woman being kind of annoying.

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Ralfarius@reddit

the audience cannot stand a woman being kind of annoying

This is the true secret. Doing a rewatch and actually all her responses are totally rational and even pretty reasonable given how consistently Walt lies to her about everything, layering lie upon lie and trying to keep her in the dark while he gets involved in major criminal enterprise.

Which he didn't have to do. He could have taken money from his old friends/ex business partners. But he didnt, purely to assuage his wounded ego. Then he even lied about changing his mind.

Skylar gave him so many chances to make things right. People just hate a woman who asserts herself in media.

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Sburban_Player@reddit

Yeah she’s an antagonist, the show makes her stand against the protagonist. You’re not intended to like her, I’ve never understood the “why does no one like her?” Argument.

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

Because you can be an antagonist and also be likeable. Skyler is just deeply irrational and unpleasant on a personal level imo, irrespective of the plot. Most of her behavior patters are completely unjustified or poorly explained.

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Trigger_Fox@reddit

I totally understand and somewhat agree on disliking her because shes annoying. Her role in the story is keeping our protagonist down, and we never see things from her perspective so it makes sense. But if you think for a second she isn't actually morally right you're insane

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

Morally right on what exactly? Refusing to even sit down and have a conversation when she finds out about the drug deals? Smoking while pregnant? Cheating on her husband as some kind of power move? Getting involved in the drug game anyway?

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Trigger_Fox@reddit

Yeah i really cant see how being forced to live in the same house as a murdering meth chemist would be traumatizing or lead to bad decisions in anyway.

Media literacy is fucking dead.

Skylar wasn't "married" with walter anymore. She was legally, but thats because she had to keep up appearances so people wouldn't want to dig in on their personal lives because, i remind you, if walter goes to jail, theres a spectacular chance skylar goes too. Walter didn't respect any of her wishes, constantly lied to her, and put her family in danger multiple times.

She wanted a divorce, he blackmailed her into not having one, she wanted him out of the house, he fucking broke back in. So yeah, she fucked ted. Its not even cheating because that wasnt a relationship anymore, that was a hostage situation.

The thing that baffles me the most about skylar haters is that they normally think walt was in the right. If killing kids and making meth wasn't enough to convince you hes not a moral person, him literally admitting in the end that he did all of it because he enjoyed it should. He was shown to always have been an egomaniac, but was to wimpy to actually do anything bad.

There are legit no good people in breaking bad, but skylar is one of the people that comes the closest to being that

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

You can't be forced out of a house that has your name on it lol. If she wanted out, it was her responsibility to leave, and no amount of crying will change that. The audacity to defend pregnant smoking as a valid stress response and then turn around and cry media literacy

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Weewoes@reddit

She wanted the divorce but was also the main care giver to the kids, she gets the house until it can be sold and both move to separate ones, he is the one to leave because its cheaper and easier for him to do so.

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

If Walt doesn't want to leave she has no legal basis to make him leave. Changing the locks was unlawfully preventing a man from accessing his own house. Of course she didn't care, because she's stupid and just expects things to go her way.

If she really needed distance from Walt that badly, then her only correct option was to leave herself. She did not do this, because she is stupid.

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Weewoes@reddit

You're defending the dangerous drug dealer not leaving the house so her and the kids could be safe.. okay then.

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

And you're making an entirely emotional argument that has no basis in reality. If Walt doesn't want to leave, and isn't legally forced to, you expect him to just... give up his house? That's the sequence of events you expect to occur?

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Weewoes@reddit

So hes in the right and you agree him risking his kids is okay? Weird..

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

No one is saying that it's morally right for him to risk his kids. You are strawmanning. What I am saying is that Skylar had no legal right to kick him out, and Walt had no logical reason to accept being kicked out. So in what world did you expect anything else to happen, besides what did? What would you have done if you were Walt, deeds and ego and all? Being a scared woman does not suddenly entitle you to kick a man out of his own house, that he paid for, that is in his name. If she was (correctly) concerned for the kids safety, she should have left with them and reported Walt to the police. But of course, irrational fencesitter that she is, she just expected that passive aggressively locking an egomaniac out of his own legal property would go well.

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Weewoes@reddit

I think legally the law is on her side when hes doing what hes doing and putting them in danger.

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

Not if she doesn't report him, it's not. As far as the law is concerned, at this point in the story Walter White is an upstanding citizen. And that means he can't just be locked out of his house for no reason. Skylar needed to pick a lane, either pack up the kids and report Walt (which would have given her the house) or talk to Walt directly and work with him on a resolution. I ask you again, what did you expect to happen? What did she expect to happen?

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wikiwik2011@reddit

If he truly wanted to keep his family safe, he would do that.

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lipehd1@reddit

You're either 15 or genuinely stupid

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Will512@reddit

This is the key to understanding all the Skyler discourse imo. She is an antagonist, but the protagonist is an evil megalomaniac

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ChadWestPaints@reddit

I think the other key thing to understand is that while there are lots of antagonists, someone like Skyler is the only one that most audiences members will have had direct personal experience with. 99.99% of us haven't had to deal with psychotic drug dealers or nazi gangsters or DEA agents or mute twin assassins or cartel bosses trying to kill/oppose us at every turn, and that distance allows for less real world emotion to cloud our judgement. We can (helped by the fact these sorts of antagonists are often charming, charismatic, badass, etc. despite being bad people) romanticize and even like these people.

Someone like Skyler, meanwhile...? Someone controlling and naggy and judgy and hypocritical and annoying etc? We've all had a parent, sibling, relative, boss, coworker, teacher, partner, administrator, etc. just like that at least once. So skyler hits us on an emotional level because weve personally had to struggle to deal with someone like her before. Its why she prompts so much frustration and hate. And its compounded by the fact that she wasnt really written with charisma or charm or badassery or any of the "cool" things that make other antagonists (all of whom except maybe hank are worse people than her) potentially likable.

Its similar to the reason readers hated Umbridge in Harry Potter so much while objectively worse characters like voldemort get a pass.

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LegendaryReloaded@reddit

"Skyler is Irrational"?

"Most of her behavior patterns are completely unjustified or poorly explained"????????

You said this dumb shit just to get someone like me to respond to it didnt u

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Glitzarka@reddit

if I was her i would love the whole crystal meth thing

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SINBRO@reddit

If I don't understand it, it's irrational and unjustified

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_cdk@reddit

Skyler is just deeply irrational and unpleasant on a personal level imo, irrespective of the plot

that's... the plot

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Mrpettit@reddit

You like Gus and Lalo because they seem "normal" until you see them do horrible thing so you stop liking them.

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Legs_With_Snake@reddit

No, I didn't stop liking them. I liked them as well written antagonists, whose actions, while disgusting, are understandable based on their perspective and situation. Skyler is just a shrieking banshee.

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Glitzarka@reddit

that's not an argument that's a question

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MyrmidonExecSolace@reddit

I liked her. She was a good person

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idkanyusernameshelp@reddit

Because the “not liking her” was pure hatred to the point that the actress herself was getting death threats every day

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qywuwuquq@reddit

Yup. This is Walter's journey and she makes it harder for him. If I cared for her I would watch "Frauding Bad".

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LesserValkyrie@reddit

That makes sense!

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295DVRKSS@reddit

That moment when she meets Saul for the first time was chefs kiss

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Sugar-North@reddit

Everyone in Walt's life in season one treated him like a sick plaything, they ignored his thoughts/feelings and tried to specifically tell him what he needed to be doing. They are right, and Walt is wrong.

Skylar talks over him and for him in many cases, Hank talks over him and tries to play house by being another father figure to Walt Jr which causes so many uncomfortable situations where Walt then abuses Walt Jr. to make a point to Hank later in the series.

Hank is a major hypocrite, but it's OK to bend the rules a little bit as long as it's him doing it and not someone else (Cuban Cigars smuggled in). Marie is a serial shoplifter, married to a man who is very smug/pious.

I feel for Skylar/Hank & Marie but they all suck so badly, the only one of the bunch that's innocent in all of this was Walt Jr, who just wanted a dad that was proud of him.

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JonR20@reddit

I hate her because Bryan Cranston will never be in the wrong. He is perfect in my eyes.

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Chi_Cazzo_Sei@reddit

Breaking Bad is a shit TV show and i will die on this hill.

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ranker2241@reddit

Cmon, she was set-up to be the most Hateable character of the show. I still have nightmares about that birthday hj

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NorthKoreanKnuckles@reddit

Women don't like when men got a hobby.

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WiseMango13452@reddit

No no you dont get it. Producing and seeling meth is based. Stopping ppl from doing that isnt based. Simple as

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Geo-Man42069@reddit

The thing is Walt turns into a villain, but since he’s going toe to toe with worse villains we’re still rooting for him.

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PsychoNicho@reddit

The absolute death grip that that character has on the minds of 4chan users is incredible

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wattsup1123@reddit

How long has this show been out now it’s the same bs all the time…she cheated on my guy and gave the money that he wanted to leave for them when he’s dead and gone to the guy she cheated with, and it’s not like the guy was a saint either he was committing tax fraud or tax evasion or something like that. Granted he’s not making drugs but he’s not innocent either so it’s hypocritical that she would support the person that she having an affair with instead of her own husband when they are both criminals and he was doing it out of love for his family….at least initially, I bet after that it got changed to do it for the kids..

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fibericon@reddit

Skyler was not fun to watch. End of story. Literally nothing else about her character matters, because I watch TV to be entertained.

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CRz_gangster@reddit

tbf let’s be real, we’d all be the same. YES he wants to leave his family money, but it’s blood money, made off cooking METH and he’s murdered people, people who wanted to murder his family BECAUSE he cooked meth and pissed them off. if our dads did that we’d be the same as Skylar, tho I can’t speak from experience not having a drug cooking father, or a father at all.

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CLOCK_TOWER_DM@reddit

Skyler was simply a terrible wife. Right from the pilot to the very end.

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unspecified_genre@reddit

People who've watched the show once hate Skyler, more than once and you realize she wasn't so bad.

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The_Local_Rapier@reddit

She was fine with the money until it started causing problems then she retook the moral high ground. That’s why everyone hates her

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AntiSaintJimmy@reddit

I hate her because she’s annoying and cramps my man Walt’s style, not because she’s morally bankrupt. This is entertainment, nothing bad actually happens to anyone so yeah I wanna see more boom stab explosion crackhead hour and less wah wah they kidnapped our baby or whatever

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_vedansh26@reddit

I remember people used to have this opinion but I'm currently rewatching the show and even near the end of season 2, Skyler hasn't done anything bitchy yet

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iswins@reddit

I find that schuyler is the most reasonable character in the show up until she starts to give Ted money, then she starts to get very controlling and irrational. This is the reason I don't like her. There was a time where I was hoping she would be the voice of reason to Walt, but only ends up shoving sticks up her ass.

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Ubera90@reddit

Maturing is understanding Skyler's point of view, and seeing how much of a megalomaniac Walt actually is.

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MrCattsDad@reddit

Because you're meant to dislike her, literally everything about the way she's written in the first few seasons is to make the audience dislike her as much as possible. If you like her before she comes around to the drug empire business you don't like her for real reasons, you like her because you're a contrarian.

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Laxhoop2525@reddit

I’ve found that people either love or hate Skylar, and they both have valid reasons, but also think the other side has none.

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bayygel@reddit

I just hate that she was smoking during her pregnancy. Otherwise, she was almost always in the right.

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VortexFalcon50@reddit

I dont like her because i find her demeanor and personality to be grating. Shes so unbearably waspy it irks the hell out of me

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Cdog536@reddit

She's just fucking annoying.

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benbwe@reddit

She cheated on him and then gave all his money to the guy she did it with?

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sanchower@reddit

He killed a guy who was going to kill all of you? Fascinating! Say… who was this guy? How did Walt meet him, and why did he want to kill you?

Someone he knew from his job teaching chemistry class, orrrrr…???

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Zermist@reddit

You have to give credit to the actress. She did an amazing job selling the role of “completely obnoxious pest”

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Chaosmango@reddit

The reason so many Breaking Bad viewers hated Skyler, isn't because she was wrong or unreasonable. It's because she opposed Walt and we were conditioned to root for him.

Skyler looked bad in certain scenes. One example would be the stupid choice involving Ted. Another would be that pivotal scene with her lawyer. But even in those, if you change your perspective, she doesn't act like a stupid or greedy person. More like someone who is trapped, trying to survive and protect her kids.

Her resistance made us uncomfortable, not because it was wrong, but because it interrupted Walt's rise to power. Which was the whole point of the show.

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lipehd1@reddit

I'll be honest with you, idk how you guys rooted for Walt. My sympathy for him ended somewhere around s3. He was a maniac on a sociopathic run. He was a greedy manipulative fuck, had no problem with killing children (gotta remind you guys that even before the desert scene, he poisoned the kid Jesse cared for, to make Jesse think Gus did it), and was holding his own family hostage.

I was literally rooting for Gus to kill him (knowing full well that was very unlikely) and my anger toward Walt just increased as the seasons went on.

Walt literally tried to kill Jesse, just because Jesse wanted to dip, how do you guys think that's cool?

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Harepo@reddit

I think up until the end of season 4, the show tried to maintain the idea that Walt had good intentions, but had ended up totally out-of-his-depth, and needed to do anything to survive. All the antagonists had done worse things than Walt until that point, and Tuco especially set the tone for a brutality that even Walt never trully reached. I'd say only in season 5 is the viewer meant to truly root against him.

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czarczm@reddit

They definitely show you early on that it's not just for his family, but they also always give Walt a reason for why it has to be keep going and that gives the audience leeway to excuse much of what he does. At first it's to leave money for his family, then it's to make for the expensive experimental treatment his family makes him take, then it's to pay for Hank's PT, then he's forced to by the threat of death. It's not until the last season that there are no more excuses, and he actually becomes a kingpin. Interesting thing that happened in the last season that I never really see get talked about, Walt actually gives it at all at that point. The only reason he gets back into the game is cause Hank's finds out he was Heisenberg.

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Chaosmango@reddit

It’s not really about thinking "Walt is cool" or that he's a good guy. Most people - who enjoyed Breaking Bad - didn't admire Walt as a person. It was about witnessing the transformation. About how an "ordinary" man gradually becomes monstrous and watching each step, each justification, each point of no return.

The appeal isn’t in agreeing with Walt, it's in following his descent and asking ourselves "Where would I have stopped? Would I have done differently?". That kind of storytelling hits hard, because it doesn't just show good vs evil. It shows how blurred that line can get, especially when ego, fear, power and money are involved. You are supposed to stop rooting for him, the question is just when do you stop. When do you start hating him.

If we could only enjoy stories, where we approve of the main character, we'd lose a lot of the best ones. Breaking Bad is gripping, not because Walt is right, but because we know he’s wrong, and we can’t look away. We want to know how far he can get.

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lipehd1@reddit

I would agree with you if there wasn't so many people out there who genuinely didn't saw Walter as a bad and selfish person until the very last episode. Honestly, i think they added that specifically because of how so many people to that point still hadn't realized that Walter stopped caring for his family very long ago; during the second season, he already had more money than his family would ever need, but it was clear that he was not doing that for his family anymore, but rather, to get the money he deserved, but was denied by his ex colleagues when he decided to sell his shares.

You can see in this very on post how a lot of people unironically excuse a lot of Walt decisions, despite them being straight up psychopathic

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SecretStuffTR@reddit

i wasnt rooting for him yet i never liked skylar at any point in the show

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

She was also written as a relatively cold and stern person. Her entire purpose is to offset Walt's craziness and bring things back down to earth. Walt does some crazy shit for like three or four episodes, she's there to put things back into perspective halfway through the season, then it ramps back up again and we're left with a cliffhanger. Rinse and repeat.

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elliotcook10@reddit

I would bet the same people who hate Skyler’s character also idolize Patrick Bateman and don’t see the underlying message.

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thebestintheworld316@reddit

The only momento i was pissed at her was when hank find out about walter and she refusses to help, and im like why? is so dumb, but all of the other actions i don´t care about them people just like to hate a character

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HelpMePlxoxo@reddit

I watched Breaking Bad for the very first time without hearing any spoilers only a couple years ago. I expected to hate Skyler.

I only came to find that she was one of the most level-headed and normal people in the entire show. I honestly think the absurd hate for her is because she's a woman. She's only "annoying" or "obnoxious" if you're actually stupid enough to think Walter is in the right in any of his decision-making.

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Pr1zzm@reddit

It's a classic "glorified bad guy" show. Skylar's character catching strays was just collateral damage.

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allgreek2me2004@reddit

She was straight up insufferable. And she went out of her way to fuck her boss then flaunt it in the face of her terminally ill husband.

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DerpyLemonReddit@reddit

Show shows the dangers of toxic masculinity Toxically masculine people watch it anyway You just can't fucking win

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romulusnr@reddit

Husband goes from derpy nerd weakling to super badass empire owner

wife is mad at that

She probably didn't like not being able to control him anymore.

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Spicy_tacos671@reddit

Cheating bitch deserves nothing but pain

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zombieruler7700@reddit

This is such an annoying point, people didn’t dislike her because they thought she was in the wrong, they disliked her cuz she prevented Walt from doing meth related hyjinks, and they liked it when Walt did that

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KennKennyKenKen@reddit

This new generation of breaking bad viewers love to gloat about how Skylar is akchually da victim.

Yeah we fucking know. Doesn't mean the creators and writers of the show didn't do everything in their power to make us empathise with Walt, while making her super fucking annoying.

Cheats. Smokes while pregnant. Hysterically screams constantly.

Thank fuck for this comment section.

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AwkwardZac@reddit

Yeah but did you know she tucked Ted, and that makes her the villain?

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bell37@reddit

The only unforgivable thing she did was singing at a company event

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HamBlamBlam@reddit

Tucked him in good and tight?

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AwkwardZac@reddit

Yeah, gave him the good old tug and tuck.

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

Tucked him in real good, for about 10 minutes.

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baudmiksen@reddit

He was all tuckered out

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JucaLebre@reddit

Who likes Skyler? Wtf

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mrpeshoga@reddit

Yeah Walter was supposed to just stay a teacher and die like a good drone, how dare he ensure the future of his family trough a field where he has expertise! Also how dare he not pay attention to her after he is confronted with the grim reality of impending death and life on a timer, that's the perfect time to be a good husband by paying attention to HER needs.

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VicisSubsisto@reddit

Gee, if only he had a fully legal job opportunity which also utilized his expertise and came with top-tier health insurance. Too bad he didn't know any tech billionaires who are eager to hire him back into a high-paying position. He had no choice but to sell drugs.

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mrpeshoga@reddit

Nah walt totally shouldn't have protected the future of his family after he worsened and should've struggled against the inevitable. He should've stayed at his teacher job and let his family rot in poverty after he died, because his son is totally not disabled, he doesn't have a baby who's expected to be cared for many years to come. Not to mention his wife surely has a high paying job that would sustain the family without his help.

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VicisSubsisto@reddit

Yeah, that's totally what I said. A+ reading comprehension. With a big brain like that I'm sure Gray Matter Technologies will hire you.

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MrX-MMAs@reddit

Sky let literally proposes to kill Jesse at the end

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Klordz@reddit

The worst possible crime in fiction is to be fucking annoying. Kill people or commit heinous crimes? That’s awesome, makes for great television. Being really insufferable? Hate every time they appear on screen and the schizos starts harassing the actor.

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TJ_McWeaksauce@reddit

There are only two scenes that made me dislike Skyler:

1) When she smoked in her car while pregnant.

2) When she hired a lawyer and just ignored all of her advice. The lawyer told her everything she needed to do in order to protect her children and also protect herself from becoming an accessory to Walt's crimes, but Skyler wanted to spare her childrens' feelings instead. Ultimately, the lawyer's warnings came to pass, Skyler's life was ruined, and Walt Jr. still found out his father was a murderous, drug-dealing piece of shit.

Skyler had a way out but walked past it.

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Notbbupdate@reddit

Breaking Bad is at its most interesting when its a crime drama about a guy who's hilariously out of his depth in the criminal world using the skills he does have to make it big

Breaking Bad is not at its most interesting when it's a drama about shitty wife dealing with her even shittier husband

If they got a divorce over the span of half an episode and then Skylar became a rival druglord, she's probably be more popular with audiences

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Gamepass90@reddit

I dont think she really is a great actor, her story and dialogue is absolutely believable and plausible.

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Chico__Lopes@reddit

"Oh btw, your stash of money that was meant for the family? I gave it to Ted. Who's Ted? My boss that I dick ride every day like there is no tomorrow"

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beansahol@reddit

She just has an annoying voice. That's 99% of the problem.

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lavalantern@reddit

Let’s not forget he raped her

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Hiro_the_Bladeknight@reddit

Never really got the hate that she received online. I know Walt is the protagonist, but he’s always been the bad guy. You just don’t realise because very quickly he’s surrounded by worse guys, but Walt is no way a ‘hero’ in his own story.

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Jakefiz@reddit

Carmella Soprano clears and its not particularly close

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

Carmella is actually likeable, though.

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Jakefiz@reddit

Exactly, she clears Skyler

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HiveMindKing@reddit

You can’t ever convince me not to hate her, I hated her before I hated women in general.

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Rex__Lapis@reddit

Fuck skyler

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darksidathemoon@reddit

Nobody is going to like the anti-cooking meth wife in the cooking meth show

We're here to see Walter cook meth, anyone in the way is going to be disliked

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Enioff@reddit

"Waaaahh the cartel went into our house to execute us and ordered a hit on our brother-in-law that crippled him for life"

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Ozymandias_1303@reddit

They did a good job of making her seem less likable than Walt while simultaneously making it obvious (if you're not a mental defective) that Walt was a much worse person.

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qywuwuquq@reddit

People always act superior just for liking Skyler. For many people a character being boring is a greater sin than them being evil.

But she even becomes more insufferable when she doesn't even abide by her morals, sure it may be realistic but it is also realistic when people like me hate moral cops that makes exceptions for themselves.

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AsexualPlantMain@reddit

People don't like Skylar in the same way they don't like Chi-Chi from Dragon Ball. A character who is upset with the protagonist for doing the thing that makes the show interesting is usually going to be unpopular with the audience, regardless of who's in the right.

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BGMDF8248@reddit

I do find the way she eventually embraces being married to a drug kingpin, becomes essentially his Consigliere, runs the money laundering, makes her own decisions... helps him against Hank...

But in the end Skylar is still "this is all your fault", it shows a lack of accountability from her.

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Antarctic1540@reddit

I fucked Ted

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MeBustYourKneecaps@reddit

Honestly, all this hatred toward Skyler is just a masterclass in this show's writing.

This show managed to make a fanbase hate, not the child murdering, life ruining, narcissistic drug dealer. But the slightly nagging wife and the officer of the law

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Antarctic1540@reddit

Ted

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ShortBrownAndUgly@reddit

Yeah it’s funny but during my first watch i saw her as a nag whose purpose was to piss on the parade of our (anti)hero.

On second watch, her reactions and behaviors are totally understandable- she feels trapped with a fucking meth chef tangles with psychos and killers

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izza123@reddit

Her greatest crime was being boring

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MrPopanz@reddit

"Der Ton macht die Musik": she was written in a manner that was inherently unlikable, even though her motivation is understandable and relatable.

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eroctheviking@reddit

She pisses me off because she could have turned him in, or did something reasonable, but instead she decided to cuck her husband with her douchebag boss. Fuck her.

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stillmahboi@reddit

I have never watched breaking bad except for an incredibly cringe clip of waltuh love tapping a huge high schooler as he simply collapses to the floor with based tik tok music playing over it, and it made me conclude everyone is wrong and the show is actually bad.

Proceed to downvote.

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Meme_Pope@reddit

Breaking Bad If Skyler Didn’t Exist